# Tennessee Went Wild: Screams in the Dark, Trees Exploding & a Creature That Vanished on Thermal

An episode of [Bigfoot Society](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1453429066), 21 May 2026, 55 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pdrl.fm/3e8f48/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71715697/bfs_1115_michael_cryptid_campout_final.mp3

Multiple witnesses gathered in the Tennessee woods at the Tennessee Cryptid Campout, put on by Randy Hutchings and the Fortean TN group, for one unforgettable week—and what happened next still has everyone talking. In this intense episode, hear firsthand reports of moving knocks, terrifying screams in the darkness, a massive tree crash that shook the forest, strange odors, voices in the night, and a mysterious figure that appeared on thermal and vanished moments later. If you’ve ever wondered what happens when experienced investigators enter an active area together, this is the episode you need to hear. Resources: More info about the Tennessee Cryptid Campout here: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573643865014 Hell Bent Holler: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXmKRY26NchurqMtWF4pXkA Sasquatch Theory: https://www.youtube.com/@SASQUATCHTHEORY Half Inch Wrench Crew coverage of Campout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxBAm0ZBBVc&t=2426s Fortean TN channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ForteanTN

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
[0:03] Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
[0:05] Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
[0:08] Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
[0:12] Speaker 1: quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
[0:16] Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
[0:20] Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
[0:24] Speaker 1: So settle in because today you'll hear another account that
[0:27] Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
[0:30] Speaker 1: So stay with us. Hey, before we get going, there's
[0:35] Speaker 1: going to be a lot of cool video in the
[0:39] Speaker 1: YouTube version of this episode, So if you're not falling
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[0:48] Speaker 1: you definitely want to make sure you are, because you're
[0:51] Speaker 1: not going to want to miss the videos and photos
[0:56] Speaker 1: that have to go along with this episode, and maybe
[1:01] Speaker 1: even some blooper videos or extra clips at the end.
[1:06] Speaker 1: All right, Big for Society, Welcome back to another episode
[1:10] Speaker 1: of the show. I've got the privilege of talking to
[1:12] Speaker 1: Michael today. A little background about Michael. We were both
[1:18] Speaker 1: attendees at Randy's Cryptid camp out in Tennessee. That just was.
[1:25] Speaker 1: Let's see, so we are recording this the twenty seventh
[1:28] Speaker 1: of April. That camp out was the thirteenth through the
[1:31] Speaker 1: seventeenth of April, so still still pretty recent in my mind.
[1:37] Speaker 1: There was a lot of really interesting things that happened.
[1:42] Speaker 1: But I had reached out to the group to see
[1:43] Speaker 1: if anyone would be willing to come on the show
[1:46] Speaker 1: to share what their experiences were, because man, there were
[1:49] Speaker 1: a lot of experiences that happened in this area in Tennessee,
[1:54] Speaker 1: and so thankfully Michael reached out and is willing to
[1:59] Speaker 1: talk about some experiences that we're had. So welcome to
[2:03] Speaker 1: the show, Michael. How are you doing.
[2:05] Speaker 2: Thank you, Jim. I'm doing great, beautiful day here in
[2:08] Speaker 2: East Tennessee.
[2:09] Speaker 1: Absolutely, we man, we had plans that we were we
[2:15] Speaker 1: were going to do an interview on site, and it
[2:17] Speaker 1: got it was so hot. I remember both of us
[2:20] Speaker 1: came to the realization that it is it's hot. It's
[2:24] Speaker 1: I would say, almost a hunt. I mean it was
[2:27] Speaker 1: really really hot. And I was at the point, you
[2:31] Speaker 1: know in Iowa where I came from. I mean, it
[2:34] Speaker 1: was down the forties and I just was. It was
[2:37] Speaker 1: a great time, but I was not prepared to deal
[2:40] Speaker 1: with that weather. So we both were like, hey, let's
[2:42] Speaker 1: set up a phone call and thankfully here we are
[2:45] Speaker 1: right now. But you know, Michael, what were your thoughts
[2:49] Speaker 1: about about this this adventure that was called Randy's Cryptic
[2:55] Speaker 1: camp Out that was put on by fourteen Tennessee.
[3:00] Speaker 2: Well, I say, we live here probably a few hours
[3:05] Speaker 2: east of where Randy is in the Cumberlands, and we
[3:10] Speaker 2: have a lot of activity around the house, which is
[3:12] Speaker 2: a story for another day. But we found out everybody
[3:16] Speaker 2: that was going to tend you are going to be
[3:18] Speaker 2: there half inch wrench crew. So it's like when we
[3:20] Speaker 2: saw there were openings later on, we had to come up.
[3:24] Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And I mean, this is the first time
[3:26] Speaker 1: I've publicly talked about it, so I'll probably be doing
[3:29] Speaker 1: commentary along with you. I mean, it was the coolest
[3:32] Speaker 1: experience because, as you said, half inch wrench crew sasquatch theory.
[3:39] Speaker 1: I guess myself was there, and then Jesse and Joe
[3:41] Speaker 1: from Helbent Holler. There are a lot a lot of
[3:45] Speaker 1: really cool people. So I was when Randy invited me
[3:50] Speaker 1: to be a guest, who I was like Oh yeah, absolutely.
[3:54] Speaker 1: I've always wanted to meet these guys and hang out
[3:57] Speaker 1: with them for an extended period of time. So it
[4:00] Speaker 1: was a very cool experience, kind of in like an
[4:02] Speaker 1: old summer camp type setting. So that was fun and
[4:06] Speaker 1: nostalgic as well. I guess you could say.
[4:09] Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and we watched we watch a whole bunch
[4:11] Speaker 2: of you all the whole time. We watch you every
[4:13] Speaker 2: every episode comes out, and it was like, this is
[4:15] Speaker 2: going to be our one chance to get everybody together.
[4:19] Speaker 1: Maybe exactly, I I don't think, I mean, unless Randy
[4:24] Speaker 1: does it again. It was a it was a it
[4:28] Speaker 1: was pretty much a once in a lifetime type deal
[4:31] Speaker 1: to be able to spend that much time in the
[4:35] Speaker 1: field with and not just content creators but like really
[4:38] Speaker 1: good research researchers and enthusiasts and even skeptics from across
[4:43] Speaker 1: the nation. But they all got together and no one
[4:46] Speaker 1: was no one was going after each other, and we're
[4:48] Speaker 1: all working together, and it was it was a very
[4:51] Speaker 1: unique experience.
[4:52] Speaker 2: I think, yes, we learned a lot.
[4:55] Speaker 1: Absolutely so, So Michael, what were some things that you
[4:58] Speaker 1: guys experienced in this? Uh, in this it was kind
[5:03] Speaker 1: of a research experiment, really.
[5:06] Speaker 2: Okay, The first night was just kind of a shakedown.
[5:11] Speaker 2: I ended up joining the short height group. It was
[5:13] Speaker 2: a small group. We just walked out I believe it's
[5:19] Speaker 2: the amphitheater area, had a bunch of seats around the campfire.
[5:24] Speaker 2: We walked a little waste past that didn't hear much.
[5:28] Speaker 2: But one member of our group decided to stay back
[5:31] Speaker 2: with a staff member and we were just gonna sit
[5:35] Speaker 2: or lay down on the benches and listen. We heard
[5:39] Speaker 2: five moving knocks. Now now I didn't consider them full
[5:44] Speaker 2: tree knocks because they didn't have the pop, but as
[5:48] Speaker 2: everybody else was walking back to camp, we heard them,
[5:50] Speaker 2: heard them moving one, two, and they were separate. So
[5:54] Speaker 2: the staff member called it in. It sounded like it
[5:57] Speaker 2: could have been somebody maybe just hitting a tree with
[5:59] Speaker 2: a piece of woo, you know, walking staff But Randy said,
[6:03] Speaker 2: we called in Randy and he came in with Manny
[6:06] Speaker 2: and he said if their group ever did that, they
[6:10] Speaker 2: would ever knock in groups. He said they would do
[6:13] Speaker 2: two or three knocks at a time, and we never
[6:17] Speaker 2: did find anybody who said they had knocked that night
[6:22] Speaker 2: walking back to camp.
[6:24] Speaker 1: Okay, that's really interesting. I remember people talking about how
[6:28] Speaker 1: there's a lot of interesting things that happened over there.
[6:32] Speaker 1: I went over there beginning of the week and just
[6:37] Speaker 1: kind of hung out on the benches and I was
[6:39] Speaker 1: hearing some weird stuff out in the woods. I was
[6:41] Speaker 1: hearing something that sounded like it was kicking stuff around,
[6:46] Speaker 1: maybe knocking on trees. I'm not sure it was enough
[6:50] Speaker 1: that I was hanging out there for a few minutes.
[6:53] Speaker 1: It's just a beautiful area too.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Out there in the woods. Yes. And the most interesting
[6:57] Speaker 2: thing is later in the week, many had mentioned that
[7:00] Speaker 2: a lot of times they'll notice the knocks are the
[7:03] Speaker 2: number of people in the group, and it had many
[7:07] Speaker 2: and Randy hadn't come out till they were called. But
[7:11] Speaker 2: there were five knocks, and if you add up the
[7:14] Speaker 2: three staff in two campers, that's five. For what that's
[7:20] Speaker 2: worthing that.
[7:21] Speaker 1: Is fascinating, Michael, I've never heard that before. That's really cool.
[7:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was confirmed days later, so I you know,
[7:29] Speaker 2: I hadn't even put it together to yeah, I counted
[7:31] Speaker 2: five knocks, five.
[7:33] Speaker 1: People, Okay, I think it might be. I'm gonna give
[7:38] Speaker 1: a little background real quick, just so people realize that
[7:41] Speaker 1: if you remember my interview with Randy a while back.
[7:46] Speaker 1: This is the same area where they've pretty much, you know,
[7:50] Speaker 1: they've had multiple sightings out in the woods. There's an
[7:54] Speaker 1: individual that had a very intense spider crawling incident sighting
[8:01] Speaker 1: out there. Hopefully I might be able to get him
[8:03] Speaker 1: on the show, but he's got all the time he needs.
[8:08] Speaker 1: So it's not just that people are experiencing weird things
[8:12] Speaker 1: in this area, but they're seeing visuals out in the woods.
[8:16] Speaker 1: The cabin I was staying in is one on the
[8:20] Speaker 1: edge of the campground. People have gotten run out of
[8:23] Speaker 1: that cabin. There's been multiple rocks thrown at the cabin.
[8:27] Speaker 1: There's been huge wood knocks at the tree line right
[8:30] Speaker 1: next to the cabin. I might talk about my time
[8:35] Speaker 1: in the cabin in a later on, but so that
[8:40] Speaker 1: that was the first That was your first day, Michael,
[8:42] Speaker 1: that you had that happen.
[8:44] Speaker 2: Yes, that was the first night, and then the second
[8:49] Speaker 2: night we went out as a group. Joe and Jesse
[8:55] Speaker 2: from Helbert Holler put us out at intervals along the
[8:58] Speaker 2: main trail. We were the second group in the first
[9:03] Speaker 2: group was about a quarter mile in. We were maybe
[9:06] Speaker 2: three eighth of a mile beyond that. We basically got
[9:11] Speaker 2: out about ten thirty. It was pretty quiet until they
[9:17] Speaker 2: called in the last group, and at eleven thirty three
[9:23] Speaker 2: pm a lot of people noted this. There was I
[9:28] Speaker 2: thought I heard a rifle shot towards camp. There was
[9:32] Speaker 2: enough time for me to look and think, who's shooting
[9:36] Speaker 2: a rifle? And then we heard this huge tree crash
[9:39] Speaker 2: down within a few hundred yards of the first position.
[9:45] Speaker 2: The last group, mile and a half up the trail
[9:52] Speaker 2: heard it.
[9:52] Speaker 1: As well, and I want to jump in real quick, Michael.
[9:55] Speaker 1: I was in that last group, and that is no
[9:59] Speaker 1: exaggeration because what it sounded like to us out there
[10:02] Speaker 1: is that it was so loud that it sounded like
[10:05] Speaker 1: it was close to us, and it was, as you said,
[10:09] Speaker 1: more than a mile away. It was very intense.
[10:15] Speaker 2: Yes, and I've had tree pushes. I was out hiking
[10:19] Speaker 2: the trail once again. It's another story, but I heard
[10:23] Speaker 2: the crack and tree fall, and it was in no
[10:26] Speaker 2: comparison to how loud this one was. Even if you
[10:30] Speaker 2: believe that trees, you know, fall in the calm, this
[10:34] Speaker 2: was loud.
[10:36] Speaker 1: It's important to know there was no wind that night either.
[10:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was very calm, no rain, And I
[10:47] Speaker 2: also had a hiking friend who After I described it,
[10:52] Speaker 2: they told me their tree fall stories, and his story
[10:55] Speaker 2: was it was out camping near a shelter and he hurd.
[11:00] Speaker 3: And well it was very clearly a tree falling slowly,
[11:07] Speaker 3: which I can understand would be a natural tree fall,
[11:10] Speaker 3: but not one that falls with the rifle shot.
[11:14] Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, that night was very interesting because I want
[11:19] Speaker 1: to say there were other things that groups experienced as
[11:24] Speaker 1: well besides that.
[11:27] Speaker 2: Yes, our position was quiet. After that. We looked up
[11:30] Speaker 2: and down the trail and I can't say anything else
[11:32] Speaker 2: that stood out after that other than the thermal that
[11:37] Speaker 2: was caught.
[11:38] Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, So I was in the group where the
[11:41] Speaker 1: thermal was caught, and I'll talk about that for a
[11:44] Speaker 1: few minutes. The two gentlemen that and they requested not
[11:49] Speaker 1: to have their names mentioned, but very interesting situation. One
[11:55] Speaker 1: middle aged gentleman, one a little bit younger gentleman, and
[12:00] Speaker 1: so they were in. The individual that actually hit the
[12:04] Speaker 1: record button on this was actually I would say, I
[12:08] Speaker 1: think he considered himself to be a skeptic as well.
[12:13] Speaker 1: They so they want their names not to be mentioned
[12:17] Speaker 1: with this, but they do want it to be called
[12:20] Speaker 1: the cross footage. And so they were able to provide.
[12:24] Speaker 1: They provided me with some pictures and they're like, you
[12:28] Speaker 1: can use this for whatever you want. So what happened
[12:30] Speaker 1: was I was standing next to these two individuals and
[12:33] Speaker 1: they were probably ten feet away from me. We're way
[12:35] Speaker 1: way out there in this area that's called the cot
[12:37] Speaker 1: zone where a lot of crazy stuff happens. And so
[12:43] Speaker 1: the one individual has their thermal device on something in
[12:47] Speaker 1: the woods, and the other individual has their iPhone or
[12:52] Speaker 1: their phone hooked up to this thermal device so that
[12:54] Speaker 1: they can just look at their screen and if they
[12:56] Speaker 1: see something weird, they can record it. And thankfully they
[12:59] Speaker 1: had the clarity of mind to record audio or to
[13:04] Speaker 1: record a photos and video of this. And I'm not
[13:08] Speaker 1: really sure what to think about it. It's right under
[13:13] Speaker 1: an arch tree, and it looks like it doesn't look
[13:17] Speaker 1: like a normal bigfoot, but I mean it looks like
[13:20] Speaker 1: something where it's almost this big mass with dark features
[13:25] Speaker 1: around where it could be a face. I don't know.
[13:27] Speaker 1: I'll put it on the YouTube version. And then the
[13:32] Speaker 1: weird thing is that they panned away and then panned
[13:35] Speaker 1: back over and it was completely gone. Yeah, that's probably
[13:42] Speaker 1: one of the weirdest. There are a lot of weird
[13:44] Speaker 1: things that were experienced that week. That was one of
[13:47] Speaker 1: the weirdest things I've experienced. I'm not sure what that was.
[13:50] Speaker 1: I think some people were theorizing maybe it was a
[13:53] Speaker 1: dog man instead of a bigfoot. I feel like that's
[13:56] Speaker 1: even worse news, But I don't know what we What
[14:00] Speaker 1: were your thoughts on you were able to see that
[14:02] Speaker 1: that thermal capture, right?
[14:05] Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, my wife thought it looked a lot with
[14:10] Speaker 2: the almost main looking that it would look like a
[14:14] Speaker 2: potential dogman that she saw right off our porch. Boy,
[14:17] Speaker 2: I thought it looked like a large chow dog. I
[14:23] Speaker 2: saw a sharp snow and the eyes. So I have
[14:26] Speaker 2: no idea what that could have been.
[14:28] Speaker 1: But that's really interesting. That's an interesting theory because I
[14:33] Speaker 1: remember the first time I looked at it, I was like,
[14:35] Speaker 1: this looks like a little lion. I don't know it.
[14:39] Speaker 1: The weird thing is is the next day we went
[14:43] Speaker 1: out and the group of us went out and we
[14:46] Speaker 1: were trying to find something that would make sense, you know,
[14:50] Speaker 1: that would explain it away. We couldn't find anything. We
[14:53] Speaker 1: did find a place where something had like obviously was
[14:58] Speaker 1: sitting there. The leaves were all smushed down, but no,
[15:05] Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think there were any tracks
[15:07] Speaker 1: that were found. Were you in that group, Michael that
[15:10] Speaker 1: went out for.
[15:11] Speaker 2: That, Yes, Jesse thought she found a potential track, okay,
[15:16] Speaker 2: right by a little streamlet she was she was measuring it,
[15:20] Speaker 2: But I don't know if they didn't, you know, it
[15:22] Speaker 2: was really hard to tell. I got some pictures from
[15:28] Speaker 2: her putting her hands there, but it's I don't think
[15:31] Speaker 2: they could ever determine whether it was a track.
[15:33] Speaker 1: Okay, interesting and and this is it's such it's such
[15:38] Speaker 1: a wild experiment when you have multiple people experiencing multiple
[15:43] Speaker 1: things in the same week, and you have multiple viewpoints.
[15:47] Speaker 1: And then I think there's even video, like short video
[15:53] Speaker 1: YouTube docs coming out already. I think Halfrench just Adam
[15:57] Speaker 1: just brought his out. So there's there's so much that
[16:01] Speaker 1: can be brought away from this week. What do you
[16:07] Speaker 1: remember about that that day after?
[16:13] Speaker 2: The last thing I remember about that night was when
[16:16] Speaker 2: we gathered to look at the tree fall site is
[16:19] Speaker 2: and the first group noticed the right away was a
[16:21] Speaker 2: heavy ammonia urine smell. And we get that. We get
[16:27] Speaker 2: that around the house. Sometimes we think it's skunks, but
[16:29] Speaker 2: my wife calls it cat pe and that was a
[16:33] Speaker 2: very distinct smell even the next day.
[16:36] Speaker 1: Okay, that's a great, great thing for you to bring out, Michael,
[16:40] Speaker 1: because were you around when we linked back up with
[16:46] Speaker 1: Miguel from Sasquatch Theory and his guys and they were
[16:50] Speaker 1: saying they were smelling the same thing in another part
[16:52] Speaker 1: of camp that night.
[16:53] Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Okay, And then this might be something you don't know.
[16:59] Speaker 1: But my self and Manning had gone out on the
[17:03] Speaker 1: trail the next day to check some stuff and we
[17:07] Speaker 1: actually had two hikers come by us, and so we
[17:12] Speaker 1: talked to them for a while, really nice people, and
[17:15] Speaker 1: we were like, hey have but they were at this
[17:18] Speaker 1: campsite way out they had been staying, and we were like, hey,
[17:22] Speaker 1: have anything weird out there? And the guy was like,
[17:26] Speaker 1: you know what really really weird smell out here? Like,
[17:31] Speaker 1: and the way he explained it described it was very
[17:34] Speaker 1: similar to how the other how the people in our
[17:37] Speaker 1: group were actually describing as well. So I thought that
[17:40] Speaker 1: was great info. He was not linked up to our
[17:44] Speaker 1: expedition group, but he experienced the same thing as well.
[17:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, so independent corroboration exactly exactly.
[17:57] Speaker 1: I think that night where the different groups experienced stuff
[18:03] Speaker 1: that we'd been talking about. It feels like there was
[18:06] Speaker 1: a shift that started to happen, and after that, some
[18:10] Speaker 1: really interesting things started to happen. Michael, what were some
[18:13] Speaker 1: other things that you remember from your time there?
[18:16] Speaker 2: Okay, the very next night we went out the same thing,
[18:21] Speaker 2: but we went out in a triangle. The first group
[18:26] Speaker 2: was at the it was a trail junction about halfway up.
[18:31] Speaker 2: There was a group down that trail, and then there
[18:33] Speaker 2: was a group that continued to the main the end
[18:36] Speaker 2: of the first night's investigation, so we were basically in
[18:38] Speaker 2: a triangle. At some point, I think it was actually
[18:45] Speaker 2: quiet up till then Jesse came by and was looking
[18:48] Speaker 2: for a volunteer to go a little further down the
[18:50] Speaker 2: trail and occupy the middle of the triangle. So we
[18:52] Speaker 2: were we would have been right in the center of
[18:55] Speaker 2: the action, and we were nobody volunteered, so I was like, okay,
[19:00] Speaker 2: I'll go. We almost immediately started hearing a lot of snaps,
[19:09] Speaker 2: just a lot of noise around us. We clearly had
[19:15] Speaker 2: it from two locations. It was the kind of thing
[19:18] Speaker 2: where you'd hear it from one side and then right
[19:22] Speaker 2: directly across you'd hear it on the other side. So
[19:25] Speaker 2: there was they're either really fast or we had at
[19:27] Speaker 2: least two whatever in the woods.
[19:30] Speaker 1: Okay, so this is that this is the trail that's
[19:35] Speaker 1: not on that main trail that we hiked tons and
[19:37] Speaker 1: tons of times. This is like the offshoot trail.
[19:40] Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the offshoot trail in the MIDDLEK.
[19:42] Speaker 1: I got it. I So I had something very strange
[19:47] Speaker 1: happened that night because I ended up actually being out
[19:51] Speaker 1: on the offshoot trail near the end of the night,
[19:55] Speaker 1: and I was I was out there by my self,
[20:01] Speaker 1: no thermal and there's a part, there's a part where
[20:04] Speaker 1: it feels like it kind of starts to uh, to
[20:08] Speaker 1: curve around a little bit. So I'm like almost on
[20:11] Speaker 1: that curve. So I'm out there no one else. It
[20:17] Speaker 1: sounded like there was a voice in my ear. That
[20:22] Speaker 1: was it. It was like it was like come here.
[20:25] Speaker 1: And at that point I was like, oh man, I'm
[20:27] Speaker 1: I'm out of here. If I'm starting to hear a
[20:30] Speaker 1: voice in the woods, like I am getting back with
[20:33] Speaker 1: the rest of the group, like this is this is intense.
[20:35] Speaker 1: Like it literally sounded like someone was in the woods
[20:38] Speaker 1: behind me. And so that that was the first really
[20:43] Speaker 1: weird thing that I experienced during that week, not the last,
[20:47] Speaker 1: but I would say the first.
[20:50] Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, we didn't we didn't hear
[20:53] Speaker 2: any of that. But then they then they played the
[20:56] Speaker 2: recording from camp of the Shafar, the rams horn, the
[21:03] Speaker 2: battle battle sounding, and we heard we heard the vocalizations.
[21:08] Speaker 2: We heard almost like an abbreviated wolf howl, but more
[21:16] Speaker 2: more of a vocal. Then it was odd. There was
[21:19] Speaker 2: I heard, this is this is what I heard. I
[21:23] Speaker 2: heard a k like a coyote, one single coyote call
[21:28] Speaker 2: a yip and a howl, and then there was grunts
[21:31] Speaker 2: like and it was all together. And that was from
[21:38] Speaker 2: the upper upper end of the trail. So I don't
[21:40] Speaker 2: know what anybody else experienced or that middle, that middle
[21:44] Speaker 2: section maybe with the woods where nobody was.
[21:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's extremely interesting, Okay, I think that would be.
[21:56] Speaker 1: Do you remember if were there any other things that
[21:58] Speaker 1: happened that night. I think those are the main things
[22:00] Speaker 1: that happened that night.
[22:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. Then they played the Shaffar again, the recording and
[22:05] Speaker 2: we heard the two screams two two very ulilated script
[22:11] Speaker 2: loud screams, not like a fox or a bobcat. I've
[22:16] Speaker 2: heard heard all those.
[22:18] Speaker 1: Okay, I think the show show far stuff was before
[22:22] Speaker 1: I heard that voice in the woods as well.
[22:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was pretty early.
[22:27] Speaker 1: Yep, which makes it kind of weird.
[22:30] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then we had at one time we
[22:34] Speaker 2: had Joe going through that section between where we heard
[22:38] Speaker 2: the calls because they were hearing a lot of action there. Uh.
[22:43] Speaker 2: And then Joe and then Joe brought everybody back from
[22:47] Speaker 2: the far section because they weren't having much activity at
[22:49] Speaker 2: that end other than the vocalizations, so they went further
[22:54] Speaker 2: down the side trail.
[22:56] Speaker 1: And that's what that's when I yep, exactly, that's when
[23:00] Speaker 1: I had my my deal happened perfect, Yeah, okay.
[23:05] Speaker 2: And then then I had a fun one. I swear
[23:08] Speaker 2: I had it upright thermal. This was this was the
[23:13] Speaker 2: funny part. I'm still laughing about this. I saw someone
[23:17] Speaker 2: standing by a tree trunk and I got a good,
[23:19] Speaker 2: good thermal on it down the trail and we hadn't
[23:22] Speaker 2: heard anybody. I didn't see any clothing because they were
[23:26] Speaker 2: blended into the tree trunk, and I had I had
[23:29] Speaker 2: my partner look and we're checking it out, and I
[23:32] Speaker 2: announced it said, I see the head and all I
[23:34] Speaker 2: saw was the head move, you know how you know
[23:36] Speaker 2: sometimes on on thermals you'll see just a head mob
[23:39] Speaker 2: forward a little bit and looked around the tree. Well,
[23:41] Speaker 2: I swear I saw that, called it out. Jesse came
[23:45] Speaker 2: running up, put her thermo and goes, uh, I think
[23:47] Speaker 2: we have people, oh, Kiley, Apparently we had two stealthy
[23:54] Speaker 2: members that were either there the whole time that we
[23:56] Speaker 2: hadn't seen them, or they had come toward us on
[23:58] Speaker 2: the trail and we had not heard of work. We're
[24:00] Speaker 2: probably looking the other way.
[24:02] Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, Okay, yeah, and that stuff happens, you know.
[24:06] Speaker 2: Yeah. So but it was a good it was a
[24:08] Speaker 2: good learning.
[24:08] Speaker 1: Moment, absolutely. And I think that's actually a really good point, Michael,
[24:14] Speaker 1: because I would say, man, the learning. First off, Jesse
[24:18] Speaker 1: and Joe are really good at what they do. And
[24:21] Speaker 1: I want to say that I have never been in
[24:23] Speaker 1: a situation where I've learned so much from people like
[24:29] Speaker 1: themselves about how to take things seriously when you're out
[24:34] Speaker 1: in the woods, how to act a certain ways so
[24:37] Speaker 1: you make sure that you capture the evidence with the
[24:40] Speaker 1: devices you're using to capture the evidence. Like is very
[24:44] Speaker 1: very cool to see them in the field and not
[24:48] Speaker 1: just you know, watch them on YouTube, and what you
[24:50] Speaker 1: see on YouTube is what they are in real life.
[24:52] Speaker 1: It's very cool. They are one hundred percent legitimate.
[24:57] Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, especially about the evidence collection. I've learned. Yeah,
[25:00] Speaker 2: I get I can get a little excited, which I
[25:04] Speaker 2: didn't think I would.
[25:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, same here, so.
[25:08] Speaker 2: Yes, I definitely learned just keep it, keep it cool.
[25:12] Speaker 2: You can get excited later.
[25:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly during during the debrief session. So that puts
[25:18] Speaker 1: us Let's see, so that was Monday, Tuesday, WEDNESDA. Now
[25:22] Speaker 1: we're on the next day, would be Wednesday, right.
[25:24] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I still have a couple of things. Uh,
[25:29] Speaker 2: we really thermal heart. I've been going over my thermals.
[25:32] Speaker 2: I haven't found anything. But just as as we were
[25:36] Speaker 2: wrapping up, as Jesse and Joe came through, Uh, we
[25:40] Speaker 2: were talking about wrapping up. I don't remember what it
[25:45] Speaker 2: was before Jesse smelled copper heads or I think it
[25:49] Speaker 2: was after because I think she should wrap up. We
[25:52] Speaker 2: heard a double cluck. He was like and and just
[26:00] Speaker 2: a short distance way from that, there was an answering,
[26:05] Speaker 2: almost inaudible, but it was clearly there. It was. It
[26:09] Speaker 2: was like a signal, Okay, they're going home. We can
[26:13] Speaker 2: we can leave. It was definitely the second one was
[26:18] Speaker 2: definitely a reply. Okay, I think other than the tree,
[26:23] Speaker 2: that was the most most interesting thing I heard.
[26:29] Speaker 1: So I was also there, and man, that was the
[26:33] Speaker 1: first time I've ever experienced that that type of vocalization,
[26:36] Speaker 1: and it was loud, and it was much louder than
[26:40] Speaker 1: I would have expected it to be. Do you know
[26:42] Speaker 1: if anyone got that recorded, Michael.
[26:46] Speaker 2: I doubted. We were packing up at the.
[26:48] Speaker 1: Time, which makes sense that it would happen during that time.
[26:52] Speaker 1: As you said, hey, they're on their way. So that's
[26:56] Speaker 1: the other weird thing, Michael about this area. So I
[26:59] Speaker 1: was in, this happens and there were days when myself
[27:04] Speaker 1: or Miguel or any of those guys, when we would
[27:07] Speaker 1: walk from the main part of the camp into that
[27:10] Speaker 1: cabin section area, you would always hear one single knock
[27:16] Speaker 1: in the woods over to the side. It was. It
[27:18] Speaker 1: would happen time after time after time, almost like it
[27:21] Speaker 1: was kind of notification thing. It's very very weird.
[27:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, actually, and the fact that the two clocks
[27:28] Speaker 2: were separate and and it was just like we weren't
[27:31] Speaker 2: meant to hear it. So yeah, nobody had it recorded,
[27:34] Speaker 2: but it was just so strange. Oh and the strangest
[27:37] Speaker 2: thing happened when I got back to camp.
[27:41] Speaker 1: Oh man, what happened?
[27:42] Speaker 2: Oh? Okay. We had our two little dogs in the
[27:45] Speaker 2: cabin and we found that sometimes if we didn't shut
[27:52] Speaker 2: the latch lift it up, it didn't lock. So as
[27:56] Speaker 2: a second method, we had a short rubber strap with
[28:02] Speaker 2: s hoox on the end, not as stretched as the
[28:04] Speaker 2: budget cord. It was really hard to stretch. That we
[28:06] Speaker 2: put on the door handle and we hooked it to
[28:09] Speaker 2: the the cabin number sign. There was two nails on
[28:15] Speaker 2: the sign, but it was really hard to stretch it
[28:18] Speaker 2: to the nail. That's the setup. I got back after
[28:25] Speaker 2: the investigation and we went to the tavern and had
[28:28] Speaker 2: the debrief and my wife asked me. She says, did
[28:33] Speaker 2: you lock the door? And I was like no, I
[28:39] Speaker 2: was literally outside of camp. I called her to come
[28:43] Speaker 2: down and join Adam because she was going she has
[28:46] Speaker 2: trouble walking with her knee in your knee, so she
[28:49] Speaker 2: stayed in camp with Adam, and I said, well, Adam
[28:51] Speaker 2: is ready for you to come walk down and join them.
[28:54] Speaker 2: So I was out of camp by the time I called,
[28:56] Speaker 2: so I'm like, no, I did not lock the door,
[29:00] Speaker 2: and she said, I got back to the cabin and
[29:04] Speaker 2: it was stretched to the nail that she could barely do.
[29:11] Speaker 2: We did not hook it like that, and she does
[29:13] Speaker 2: definitely not remember. She could barely get it unhooked and
[29:18] Speaker 2: it would have taken all her strength and effort to
[29:21] Speaker 2: reach that nail, and she does not remember doing that.
[29:26] Speaker 2: And oh the other thing is while we were out,
[29:31] Speaker 2: the dogs were raising a ruckus. And when our mail
[29:35] Speaker 2: dog is annoyed, here we think from whatever is watching him.
[29:41] Speaker 2: He has a distinct wine. He kind of barks but
[29:45] Speaker 2: trying not to be loud. He did that at the
[29:47] Speaker 2: very end. And then she came back and found the
[29:50] Speaker 2: cabin bolted, and we were right in the middle. So
[29:55] Speaker 2: we're like, did someone come look at the dogs? And
[29:59] Speaker 2: you know, just speculating, but you know what could have
[30:03] Speaker 2: just what could have been watching us to know that
[30:06] Speaker 2: we're hooking the cabin up like that, and said, oh,
[30:09] Speaker 2: these dogs are annoying, I'm going to make sure they
[30:11] Speaker 2: don't get out.
[30:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's really concerning. And I will say, you know,
[30:18] Speaker 1: I walked so I would walk past where you guys
[30:22] Speaker 1: were to get to the bathhouse most days, and you
[30:26] Speaker 1: would hear you would hear the dog, one of the
[30:29] Speaker 1: dogs very faintly bark when you would, but it wasn't
[30:32] Speaker 1: like they would freak out. So that tells me in
[30:36] Speaker 1: order for them to be freaking out, this was like
[30:38] Speaker 1: something big was potentially happening, not not just a normal
[30:42] Speaker 1: person walking by, I don't know.
[30:46] Speaker 2: Right right, and and the bulk of everybody was out
[30:49] Speaker 2: investigating and go, yeah, you know, uh, I think there
[30:53] Speaker 2: was a coup. People might have been around the tavern
[30:55] Speaker 2: and maybe at the fire pit, but not definitely not
[30:58] Speaker 2: walking by. And like say, most of the time, they
[31:02] Speaker 2: were pretty quiet. When someone walked by, it.
[31:06] Speaker 1: Was very very It's a weird area. It's a beautiful area,
[31:12] Speaker 1: but man, it's weird. There's one thing I want to
[31:17] Speaker 1: before we go any further. I want I want to
[31:20] Speaker 1: I want to tell the whole story. But there there
[31:23] Speaker 1: was a individual in his son that they were going
[31:27] Speaker 1: towards that trail on the first day down by the
[31:31] Speaker 1: water and there was like an old abandoned building down there,
[31:35] Speaker 1: and they actually they said they saw something that looked
[31:38] Speaker 1: like it was tall, white haired walking around that area.
[31:44] Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think there there absolutely could
[31:47] Speaker 1: have been a sighting there right off the bat. That
[31:50] Speaker 1: would have been day one. So there's there's that that
[31:53] Speaker 1: happened in the same week as well. But so that
[31:58] Speaker 1: was that was uh, oh, Tuesday night, Michael, where your
[32:01] Speaker 1: dogs had that issue.
[32:03] Speaker 2: Yes, that was that was Tuesday night. That was second
[32:05] Speaker 2: night and the other. Oh, one other thing I do
[32:08] Speaker 2: remember is as we were walking out, the whipperwills started, yeah,
[32:15] Speaker 2: in a in a in a chorus everywhere, And as
[32:20] Speaker 2: we're walking I hear a single cricket on the side
[32:23] Speaker 2: of the trail, and I remember thinking, I know we
[32:28] Speaker 2: were busy listening and watching, but I don't remember the
[32:30] Speaker 2: Whipperwills nor any crickets. I swear the woods were silent
[32:35] Speaker 2: as we were investigating.
[32:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's.
[32:39] Speaker 2: And the Whipperwills only started up after we heard those clucks.
[32:42] Speaker 2: And then I go, oh, there's the whipperwills. I need
[32:46] Speaker 2: to I need to go back over my thermals and
[32:49] Speaker 2: see if I can hear the whip whipperwills earlier, because
[32:53] Speaker 2: I had audio on it as well.
[32:54] Speaker 1: Oh, that would be really cool to get that that
[32:57] Speaker 1: piece of info for sure. So then let's see I'm
[33:02] Speaker 1: trying to think of Wednesday. So Wednesdays is the last
[33:07] Speaker 1: full day before No, no, sorry, Thursday night would have
[33:14] Speaker 1: been Thursday. So we're on Thursday now, correct, perfect, So
[33:19] Speaker 1: Thursday is the last main day before Friday. People were
[33:23] Speaker 1: heading out in the early mornings. So yes, there are
[33:26] Speaker 1: a lot of really interesting things that happen on Thursday,
[33:29] Speaker 1: but I want to make sure we address them in order.
[33:34] Speaker 1: Was there anything out of the ordinary that happened Thursday
[33:36] Speaker 1: morning for you?
[33:42] Speaker 2: No, not that I can remember.
[33:44] Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, now there is something I want to share
[33:47] Speaker 1: about Thursday afternoon for myself. So and so background for
[33:55] Speaker 1: me again, as I said, really not used to the heat.
[33:59] Speaker 1: The heat is getting to me. I'm drinking probably I
[34:03] Speaker 1: mean a ton of water. I'm drinking a ton of water.
[34:07] Speaker 1: I would say at least ninety six ounces, maybe even
[34:10] Speaker 1: more than that. And I was having to take naps
[34:13] Speaker 1: because not only were we hiking eight to ten miles
[34:17] Speaker 1: a day ish, we were also up some nights until
[34:21] Speaker 1: one point thirty two am, which was really not used to.
[34:25] Speaker 1: So I was taking a nap. It was around two
[34:27] Speaker 1: pm in my cabin, which nothing had really happened weird
[34:31] Speaker 1: in the cabin yet. But I'm on my bunk trying
[34:35] Speaker 1: to get some rest, and in that weird sleep zone
[34:41] Speaker 1: where you're almost asleep and you're just drifting off a
[34:43] Speaker 1: little bit and you're almost there, right, I heard something
[34:48] Speaker 1: in my left ear say gotcha, and I was like, nope,
[34:53] Speaker 1: we're out of here. We are out of here. So
[34:55] Speaker 1: I immediately got up and I was like, I don't
[34:57] Speaker 1: know what happened, but I'm not sticking around. And then
[34:59] Speaker 1: I went up to see what the rest of the
[35:02] Speaker 1: group was doing, so that I did have something weird
[35:05] Speaker 1: happen in that cabin. They said, you're going to have
[35:08] Speaker 1: something weird happen in this cabin, and that's the weird
[35:10] Speaker 1: event for me.
[35:13] Speaker 2: Yes, we were the same way. By that last day
[35:16] Speaker 2: we were I was so tired and worn out that
[35:19] Speaker 2: we didn't do much but hang out in the cabin. Uh.
[35:23] Speaker 2: My wife did have an odd thing. She went into
[35:27] Speaker 2: one the corner between our bunks. It was it was Thursday,
[35:36] Speaker 2: and she felt almost almost zapped. She felt very very
[35:42] Speaker 2: dizzy and out of sorts, walked away from it was clear,
[35:47] Speaker 2: walked back into it and right between right in that
[35:50] Speaker 2: one corner, felt like she was going to almost pass out.
[35:54] Speaker 2: And that was yeah. And that was Thursday morning, three times.
[35:59] Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, oh so I'm glad. I'm glad, glad she
[36:06] Speaker 1: was okay that that could have I mean, because there
[36:09] Speaker 1: was no hospital or anything like that close by. That's
[36:13] Speaker 1: another important detail, right, Thankfully she was good. Yes, I'll
[36:19] Speaker 1: say Thursday was kind of it was leading up to Hey,
[36:23] Speaker 1: this is going to be the last night for us
[36:26] Speaker 1: to do investigation. We're going to pull out all the stops.
[36:30] Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. So people were trying
[36:34] Speaker 1: some weird things.
[36:37] Speaker 2: Yes, and that and that night, I I just stayed
[36:40] Speaker 2: with Adam. Uh, like I say, I was. I really
[36:42] Speaker 2: didn't even feel like glowing out. I said, I had
[36:45] Speaker 2: two good nights. So so we just set up our
[36:50] Speaker 2: chairs by Adam's cabin there. Okay, yeah, we we we
[36:55] Speaker 2: We definitely had had some noises us out in the
[37:01] Speaker 2: usual spots outside of camp.
[37:03] Speaker 1: Oh so when you were with Adam you actually heard
[37:06] Speaker 1: some stuff, you're saying, yeah, yes, oh really.
[37:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard. Uh there was a trail heading out
[37:12] Speaker 2: of camp. I'm not sure where I went. There was
[37:14] Speaker 2: a little bench and I heard her noises there. I
[37:17] Speaker 2: put my THRMB on and I checked thoroughly around our cabin.
[37:20] Speaker 2: I was I was hoping for a repeat of the Dogs.
[37:24] Speaker 1: Gotcha, but no such luck. I was in the group
[37:29] Speaker 1: that actually went out, and we only went I would
[37:33] Speaker 1: say about a mile out instead a mile and a half.
[37:36] Speaker 1: And people are trying things like of course there was
[37:39] Speaker 1: a show far again.
[37:41] Speaker 2: There.
[37:42] Speaker 1: I did a call. I do a call where it's it.
[37:45] Speaker 1: I kind of rip off Bobo with his long call.
[37:48] Speaker 1: And I didn't hear anything when I did it, but
[37:51] Speaker 1: I did have someone in camp I believe tell me
[37:55] Speaker 1: that he had heard a response to that when I
[37:59] Speaker 1: did that. That was kind of cool. I think there
[38:01] Speaker 1: might be some audio floating around to that somewhere. Maybe
[38:04] Speaker 1: we'll get that someday. But then some really interesting things
[38:12] Speaker 1: happened later on in that night, and Michael, it might
[38:16] Speaker 1: be interesting to hear what happened with that situation, with
[38:22] Speaker 1: that weather situation leading up to I will say when
[38:26] Speaker 1: we started coming back to camp, so you can tell
[38:29] Speaker 1: your side of that, and then I will tell my
[38:31] Speaker 1: side of it. Actually being out in the woods.
[38:33] Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yes, my wife was actually ready to she
[38:38] Speaker 2: was getting chilly outside, so I was returning her chair
[38:42] Speaker 2: to the cabinet, getting her back and ready to settle down,
[38:45] Speaker 2: and we were actually inside when we heard the wind
[38:48] Speaker 2: first hit was it was unbelievable. So I went back,
[38:56] Speaker 2: went back out, and by then the wind was blowing
[38:59] Speaker 2: pretty good good, and I wasn't too concerned til Adam
[39:06] Speaker 2: started talking about coagulance and first aid supplies. He asked
[39:12] Speaker 2: me if my first aid training EMT training. I said, well,
[39:16] Speaker 2: since boy scouts, but I know a little bit. So
[39:21] Speaker 2: I went back and put my chair up and got
[39:23] Speaker 2: geared up in case we did have to go out.
[39:26] Speaker 2: It was. It was very intense, even at camp.
[39:31] Speaker 1: That's incredible. I did not know that detailed. That is
[39:33] Speaker 1: absolutely wild. I will say that some listeners will think
[39:38] Speaker 1: that Michael's being dramatic, and I will say he's not.
[39:42] Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna say what happened from my viewpoint.
[39:46] Speaker 1: So I had seen the weather earlier that day, and
[39:51] Speaker 1: it had first said rains coming down, a thunderstorm, and
[39:55] Speaker 1: so we are out about a mile and then so
[40:01] Speaker 1: I'm keeping an eye on it. I did have cellular
[40:04] Speaker 1: service out there, which is crazy. Some people in the
[40:09] Speaker 1: group had thought, well, maybe it's going to maybe it's
[40:12] Speaker 1: not an issue. Anymore. But I remember looking at the
[40:15] Speaker 1: radar and seeing this red line fully across Tennessee north
[40:21] Speaker 1: to south. And so the thing most listeners will know,
[40:25] Speaker 1: I'm from Iowa, and we take weather very seriously out here.
[40:28] Speaker 1: So when I started to hear the sound of a
[40:32] Speaker 1: train coming at us in the woods, I started to
[40:37] Speaker 1: freak out, and a lot I would say most of
[40:42] Speaker 1: probably all the people that were in the woods with
[40:44] Speaker 1: me a mile out from camp had no idea it was,
[40:48] Speaker 1: you know, they were just kind of frozen a little bit.
[40:50] Speaker 1: And I remember I started yelling. I was yelling. I
[40:53] Speaker 1: was like, we need to get out of here now,
[40:54] Speaker 1: we need to go. We need to go, we need
[40:56] Speaker 1: to go. And I remember yelling at not just yelling me.
[41:00] Speaker 1: My voice be heard, not yelling at people, but I
[41:02] Speaker 1: remember being Jesse, it's time to go. We have to go.
[41:06] Speaker 1: And because I mean, when you hear that train, that's
[41:09] Speaker 1: like that can be a matter of life and death,
[41:10] Speaker 1: because it's like tornado. So pretty much what happens, I
[41:13] Speaker 1: believe that there were sixty to seventy miles per winds
[41:16] Speaker 1: coming towards us. Jesse springs into action. She's like, it's
[41:19] Speaker 1: time to go. It's time to go over the walkie.
[41:22] Speaker 1: Everyone starts running back on this trail back to camp. Now,
[41:27] Speaker 1: this area that we're running through has all these massive
[41:30] Speaker 1: oaks that are leaning on their side because of previous weather.
[41:34] Speaker 1: And these are like, I would say, a thousand pound trees.
[41:37] Speaker 1: So what happened As we're starting to run back to camp,
[41:40] Speaker 1: all these massive trees start coming down in the woods
[41:42] Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my goodness, We're like we're going
[41:44] Speaker 1: to die out here, Like this is crazy. And so
[41:47] Speaker 1: there was even one individual where he told me he
[41:51] Speaker 1: was like it was so bad that I remember running
[41:54] Speaker 1: past a huge tree that came down and I literally
[41:57] Speaker 1: had to dodge the tree as I'm running pass it. So,
[42:01] Speaker 1: I mean, I think if we hadn't of left when
[42:04] Speaker 1: we did. And you know, thankfully everyone got back to
[42:08] Speaker 1: the main lodge, and it was it was probably one
[42:12] Speaker 1: of the most traumatic experiences I've ever been in. It
[42:16] Speaker 1: was amazing no one got hurt, but great to know
[42:19] Speaker 1: that you guys were prepared to help people in the
[42:23] Speaker 1: way that you were.
[42:25] Speaker 2: Thank you, yes, thank god, because yeah, when I when
[42:28] Speaker 2: I picked up my chair and went back check on
[42:29] Speaker 2: my wife, and Adam said, I'll see you back in there.
[42:32] Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm gearing up. If we got to go,
[42:35] Speaker 2: we'll go absolutely, And thank god we didn't have to,
[42:38] Speaker 2: because yeah, it was by the time I got back,
[42:41] Speaker 2: everybody was pretty much back.
[42:42] Speaker 1: In scary stuff. So we had one crazy last debrief.
[42:47] Speaker 1: It was. It was quite the finale. Now. There was
[42:50] Speaker 1: a group that were like, all right, we're going back
[42:53] Speaker 1: out after the storm, and I was like, I'm not
[42:56] Speaker 1: going back out because there's not only that, in my opinion,
[43:00] Speaker 1: not only the trees that came down, but there's also
[43:02] Speaker 1: more trees that are ready to come down. So then
[43:06] Speaker 1: that's fine, there's no wrong answers there. So a group
[43:09] Speaker 1: went back out. I believe they had some weird stuff
[43:13] Speaker 1: happen out there. I think they they saw kind of
[43:16] Speaker 1: orbs that were coming towards them in the woods, right.
[43:19] Speaker 2: Yes, And on the other side from y'all back towards
[43:24] Speaker 2: the U in the a group Catman had heard something
[43:28] Speaker 2: in the woods. We and and I had him put
[43:32] Speaker 2: the drone up. We heard the drone fly over twice
[43:34] Speaker 2: and I was almost tempted to get up, but we
[43:36] Speaker 2: were we were. I was wiped out by.
[43:38] Speaker 1: That point, so I Michael, I can give you the
[43:41] Speaker 1: rest of the story for that, because I actually ended
[43:45] Speaker 1: up being in that group over there because I was like, man,
[43:47] Speaker 1: what's going on over at a section Randy and I
[43:51] Speaker 1: checked it out. Catman whose individual that helps out with
[43:56] Speaker 1: fourteen Tennessee. Cool guy. He had heard something from his
[44:00] Speaker 1: bunk in the woods. So I go over. When I
[44:04] Speaker 1: get over there, Adam has his drone up and it's
[44:08] Speaker 1: really tense. Everyone's looking into the woods trying to see stuff.
[44:12] Speaker 1: Adam has his thermal drown up and he's like, there's
[44:17] Speaker 1: something out there.
[44:18] Speaker 2: No.
[44:18] Speaker 1: What he asked is he like, is there are there
[44:21] Speaker 1: any people in the woods right now? And I was like,
[44:23] Speaker 1: oh my goodness, it's happening right now. And so he's like,
[44:26] Speaker 1: I have view on something in the woods that looks
[44:29] Speaker 1: like it's on two legs something like that. And I
[44:31] Speaker 1: was like, no way. But thankfully Adam took the time
[44:35] Speaker 1: to look at it in multiple angles and it ended
[44:40] Speaker 1: up actually being a deer in the woods. But we
[44:43] Speaker 1: were so close to like, Okay, there's something in the woods.
[44:47] Speaker 1: Now you guys go after it. And I was like,
[44:49] Speaker 1: oh my goodness, what are we gonna do. It's either
[44:51] Speaker 1: a bigfoot or there's someone crazy out there. Right, That's
[44:55] Speaker 1: what happened there. But were there any other interesting things
[44:59] Speaker 1: that you guys remember experiencing down during the Randy's Critic
[45:03] Speaker 1: camp out.
[45:08] Speaker 2: Uh, that that was about the bulk of it. On
[45:11] Speaker 2: our day hike, there was a couple of possible structures
[45:15] Speaker 2: I saw. I saw an arch heading towards the trail
[45:17] Speaker 2: that was looked like it was pinned down, but it's
[45:22] Speaker 2: hard to.
[45:22] Speaker 1: Say it was. It was in my opinion, it was
[45:27] Speaker 1: a really well done event. You know, the people that
[45:31] Speaker 1: were there had been I think researching that area for
[45:35] Speaker 1: what twenty years, right.
[45:37] Speaker 2: Something like that.
[45:38] Speaker 1: It's a long time seen years, yes, And then you
[45:42] Speaker 1: know they had a yeah, breakfasts and lunch and dinner
[45:48] Speaker 1: and all that good stuff, And it was just there
[45:51] Speaker 1: were times when you know, Jesse and Joe taught people
[45:55] Speaker 1: about infrasound that was really cool. So they were they
[45:58] Speaker 1: were learning times too, and there's time to hang out
[46:02] Speaker 1: and relax and go on walks with people you would
[46:06] Speaker 1: normally not be able to spend an extended period of time.
[46:10] Speaker 1: And like I got a really good time actually out
[46:13] Speaker 1: in the woods with with Miguel from the sasquatch theory.
[46:18] Speaker 1: And then another gentleman from Oklahoma. I'm pretty sure he
[46:24] Speaker 1: doesn't want his name thrown out there, so I'm not
[46:26] Speaker 1: going to. But that was really cool. We were out
[46:29] Speaker 1: on that side trail and this is one afternoon and
[46:32] Speaker 1: they actually heard some strange WU noises out there, which
[46:37] Speaker 1: I talked to Randy and his crew about that, and
[46:39] Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, that area we're out there, we always
[46:42] Speaker 1: hear WO noises as well. But yeah, it was just
[46:45] Speaker 1: it was a really cool time to hang out, learn
[46:50] Speaker 1: more about researching, and meet some really cool people.
[46:54] Speaker 2: Yes, and considering that all the guest speakers had to cancel,
[46:59] Speaker 2: Joe and Jesse and Randy really stepped up, and.
[47:03] Speaker 1: That's a great point.
[47:05] Speaker 2: Actually made it about pure investigating, which was probably even better.
[47:10] Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, as you said, you know, and
[47:14] Speaker 1: that's how life is. There's sometimes family stuff that comes up,
[47:18] Speaker 1: or like car issues, and I would say, you know,
[47:21] Speaker 1: if there was a medal of honor like Jesse and Joe,
[47:27] Speaker 1: those guys they went above and beyond having to at
[47:31] Speaker 1: the last minute, Okay, now we're in charge of all this.
[47:34] Speaker 1: Now we're in charge of this. And Randy, you know,
[47:37] Speaker 1: stepped it up as he's such a good event planner
[47:40] Speaker 1: and his team, and yeah, it ended up becoming an
[47:43] Speaker 1: even more amazing week. It could have gone downhill, but
[47:48] Speaker 1: it really didn't. I think it just went higher.
[47:53] Speaker 2: Yes, because in the original description it just said night
[47:56] Speaker 2: hike with Joe and Jesse. It didn't even use the
[47:58] Speaker 2: word investigation. They they thought they were going to have to,
[48:02] Speaker 2: you know, show everybody how to use and they were like,
[48:04] Speaker 2: they were really complimentary too, And I thought so too.
[48:08] Speaker 2: I thought that we were, like, you say, a good,
[48:10] Speaker 2: well knit, put together group.
[48:13] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, is this a thing? I hope
[48:18] Speaker 1: Randy does this again. I think it went really well.
[48:21] Speaker 1: I think there would definitely be people that would want
[48:23] Speaker 1: to do it again. Do you think this might be
[48:27] Speaker 1: a one time event for you or is this something
[48:30] Speaker 1: you would consider looking into again in the future.
[48:35] Speaker 2: Oh, we're ready, You're We're ready to go.
[48:40] Speaker 1: I would say there's some really cool relationships and connections
[48:44] Speaker 1: that started because of this. There were people that were
[48:47] Speaker 1: talking at the end that were like, hey, we we
[48:49] Speaker 1: got to get a group of people together and hit
[48:52] Speaker 1: this certain area hard. And because it's hard to get
[48:56] Speaker 1: a group of people researchers together that are willing to
[49:00] Speaker 1: work together and not have it be all about egos.
[49:04] Speaker 1: And Randy did a really good job of allowing the
[49:07] Speaker 1: right people to come and vetting the people that were
[49:10] Speaker 1: allowed to come, and so we had no concerns about
[49:15] Speaker 1: people going crazy and making it all about them. It
[49:18] Speaker 1: was awesome, yes.
[49:20] Speaker 2: But we would we would definitely do East Tennessee or
[49:23] Speaker 2: Central Tennessee again as well. And yes, we would definitely.
[49:27] Speaker 1: Do this again absolutely. I would say it was it
[49:31] Speaker 1: was fun for me as well. I would I would
[49:33] Speaker 1: definitely consider it as as well. It was a fantastic time, Michael,
[49:38] Speaker 1: what a what a great conversation talking about just the
[49:43] Speaker 1: events of the week. Thank you for for reaching out
[49:46] Speaker 1: and for setting something up so that we could we
[49:49] Speaker 1: could get on here and just kind of talk about
[49:52] Speaker 1: how how the week went.
[49:55] Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, it's been my pleasure. It was very nice
[49:58] Speaker 2: meeting you as well. And the it was like, say,
[50:02] Speaker 2: we will have to do it.
[50:03] Speaker 1: Again, absolutely and maybe, you know, maybe someday in the future,
[50:07] Speaker 1: if you guys ever want to come back on, I'd
[50:09] Speaker 1: love to have you. I know you've got stuff going
[50:11] Speaker 1: on down down there in East Tennessee and maybe we
[50:16] Speaker 1: could have a conversation about that someday.
[50:18] Speaker 2: Sounds good.
[50:18] Speaker 1: Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity
[50:22] Speaker 1: around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I
[50:25] Speaker 1: would love to get out in those woods and experience
[50:28] Speaker 1: it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can.
[50:33] Speaker 1: If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's
[50:36] Speaker 1: pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth
[50:41] Speaker 1: through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even
[50:45] Speaker 1: better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be
[50:49] Speaker 1: one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably
[50:53] Speaker 1: I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard
[50:57] Speaker 1: anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you
[51:03] Speaker 1: just got to be there. We'll leave at that. More
[51:06] Speaker 1: about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check
[51:08] Speaker 1: this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary
[51:14] Speaker 1: series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not
[51:18] Speaker 1: only go to the festival, but you can also sign
[51:23] Speaker 1: up for a track deep in the wild forest outside
[51:29] Speaker 1: of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the bigfoot spots to
[51:34] Speaker 1: look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up
[51:38] Speaker 1: for this and yes, this will also be filmed for
[51:42] Speaker 1: the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching
[51:45] Speaker 1: for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.
[51:48] Speaker 1: It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.
[51:53] Speaker 1: To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest
[51:56] Speaker 1: dot com and listeners can use the code be esp
[52:02] Speaker 1: like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two
[52:06] Speaker 1: day pass for the price of a one day pass.
[52:09] Speaker 1: So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so
[52:14] Speaker 1: that you guys can can get a little help with
[52:20] Speaker 1: the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see
[52:23] Speaker 1: you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can
[52:28] Speaker 1: talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so
[52:30] Speaker 1: many people last year and the year before. It is
[52:34] Speaker 1: an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,
[52:37] Speaker 1: and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,
[52:41] Speaker 1: I want to say something directly to a very specific
[52:44] Speaker 1: group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch
[52:48] Speaker 1: or forces, and if you've seen something that no one
[52:51] Speaker 1: can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or
[52:54] Speaker 1: forestreet worker who's been told to stay quiet. If you're
[52:58] Speaker 1: a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,
[53:01] Speaker 1: or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or
[53:04] Speaker 1: working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed
[53:08] Speaker 1: to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or
[53:11] Speaker 1: search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks
[53:15] Speaker 1: that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry
[53:18] Speaker 1: on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government
[53:21] Speaker 1: contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told
[53:25] Speaker 1: a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,
[53:29] Speaker 1: or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence
[53:32] Speaker 1: you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,
[53:36] Speaker 1: or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something
[53:39] Speaker 1: that shook your faith, or if you work in the
[53:42] Speaker 1: shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen
[53:47] Speaker 1: what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,
[53:51] Speaker 1: even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot
[53:56] Speaker 1: Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear
[54:00] Speaker 1: what you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.
[54:04] Speaker 1: You've got the story, We've got the mic see you
[54:10] Speaker 1: in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode
[54:12] Speaker 1: of the Bigfoot Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds
[54:15] Speaker 1: us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,
[54:19] Speaker 1: and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the
[54:21] Speaker 1: tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure
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[54:45] Speaker 1: has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear
[54:48] Speaker 1: from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail
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[55:01] Speaker 1: you can hear tomorrow's episode today early in ad free
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[55:09] Speaker 1: to connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot
[55:12] Speaker 1: subject as much as you are thanks again for following
[55:14] Speaker 1: along with the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep your
[55:17] Speaker 1: eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what
[55:20] Speaker 1: else might be out there, And see you in the woods.

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