# Witness Confronts Massive Bigfoot in East Tennessee and Faces Pure Terror!

An episode of [Bigfoot Society](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1453429066), 17 Dec 2025, 1 h 14 min.

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In this gripping episode, East Tennessee witness Robbie Ferrell shares a lifetime of terrifying Bigfoot encounters stretching from the Smoky Mountain region to the secluded ridges, lake coves, and dense valleys surrounding his home. What begins as a normal day in the woods turns into a life-altering moment when Robbie hears impossible bipedal footsteps and a chilling mind-speak command telling him to leave. Over the years, Robbie experiences multiple close visual sightings, massive footprints near his bedroom window, mysterious gifting behavior, and even a night when a towering figure stands just feet from his workshop. His most shocking encounter occurs while exploring a remote Tennessee valley with researcher Harley Owens, where the two men are surrounded, growled at, and charged by multiple forest beings in an aggressive display that changed Robbie’s view of the world forever. If you’re fascinated by Sasquatch sightings, mind-speak experiences, Appalachian cryptids, Smoky Mountain mysteries, or real eyewitness accounts, this episode delivers one of the most compelling and emotionally raw Bigfoot testimonies recorded. Robbie opens up about fear, trauma, spiritual questions, and the deep desire for answers that keeps him searching despite the danger. Keywords: Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Forest People, East Tennessee Bigfoot, Smoky Mountains Bigfoot, Tennessee sightings, mind-speak, cryptid encounters, Appalachian mysteries, eyewitness Bigfoot story, Harley Owens, Bigfoot chase, Bigfoot aggression, Tennessee ridge sightings. Resources: Contact Robbie: https://www.facebook.com/robbie.ferrell.1 Contact Harley: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61580318825726 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect • Instagram: @bigfootsociety • Twitter: @bigfoot_society • TikTok: @bigfoot.society 🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: • Beam (Better Sleep): Try Beam • Wildgrain (Better Bread): Join Here • Seed (Probiotics): Get Seed • Medi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More • LMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT • Organic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS 🎙️ Podcasting Tools: • Repurpose.io: Try It • Descript: Sign Up • Streamyard: Start Recording • Riverside.fm: Try Riverside 🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
[0:03] Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
[0:05] Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
[0:08] Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
[0:12] Speaker 1: quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
[0:16] Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
[0:20] Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
[0:24] Speaker 1: So settle in because today you'll hear another account that
[0:27] Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
[0:30] Speaker 1: So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society, Welcome back
[0:33] Speaker 1: to another show. We've got witness Robbie Ferrell with us today.
[0:37] Speaker 1: And Robbie and I know each other because we were
[0:40] Speaker 1: both introduced by a mutual friend, Mister Harley Owens from
[0:45] Speaker 1: down there in the Smoky Mountain area of Tennessee. And Robbie,
[0:50] Speaker 1: you're from the same area round about, is that right?
[0:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about thirty minutes from where Harley lives.
[0:56] Speaker 1: Fantastic. You've had a lot of really interesting experiences over
[1:00] Speaker 1: the years, and most recently you had something pretty intense
[1:05] Speaker 1: happened when you were out in the field with Harley.
[1:07] Speaker 1: We'll get to that probably later on in the show.
[1:10] Speaker 1: Feel free to take us back to when this first
[1:13] Speaker 1: started happening for you, Robbie, and we'll be right there
[1:16] Speaker 1: with you.
[1:17] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:20] Speaker 2: I'm an East Tennessee guy. I've always lived in East Tennessee.
[1:25] Speaker 2: I'm in my fifties now. I started hunting when I
[1:28] Speaker 2: was a thirteen year old. I'd go out with a
[1:31] Speaker 2: recurb bow, little pocket knife. Self taught hunter, not very good,
[1:37] Speaker 2: but you know, I did enjoy being out in the
[1:39] Speaker 2: woods all the time. That's kind of always been my
[1:41] Speaker 2: peaceful place, and I never had anything weird happen for
[1:47] Speaker 2: a long time. Spent thirty something years out there, and
[1:51] Speaker 2: as long as I had a bow or a gun
[1:53] Speaker 2: with me, I kind of felt like I was a
[1:56] Speaker 2: king out there. You know, I'm the meanest thing in
[1:58] Speaker 2: these woods. And then I found out I wasn't. In
[2:03] Speaker 2: twenty and seventeen, I was just going out squirrel hunting
[2:07] Speaker 2: in an area of the woods that I've hunted my
[2:10] Speaker 2: whole wife. I wasn't that far off the road, and
[2:14] Speaker 2: I was probably one hundred feet I could still see
[2:17] Speaker 2: my truck. This is a little back road. It has
[2:20] Speaker 2: some traffic on it, but it's you know, it's a
[2:23] Speaker 2: little ways off.
[2:23] Speaker 3: The main road.
[2:26] Speaker 2: I had been there maybe three four minutes tops. Like
[2:29] Speaker 2: I said, I hadn't walked that far. And I thought
[2:31] Speaker 2: I saw a squirrel. And I had a little twenty
[2:33] Speaker 2: two semi automatic ten shot a little small scope on it,
[2:38] Speaker 2: and I stopped because I thought I saw a squirrel.
[2:41] Speaker 2: And I propped up against a tree and it's a
[2:45] Speaker 2: pretty good sized tree, and I'm scoping and I'm thinking, now,
[2:49] Speaker 2: you know, if this is a squirrel, this is too
[2:52] Speaker 2: far a shot. But I'm still scoping it out, just
[2:55] Speaker 2: to you know, see what I can do.
[2:57] Speaker 3: And from behind me, I.
[3:00] Speaker 2: Hear the loudest footsteps I have ever heard my life.
[3:04] Speaker 2: I mean, I've been around bulls and cattle and things
[3:07] Speaker 2: of that nature, and I've heard, you know, a fifteen
[3:09] Speaker 2: sixteen hundred pound animal run. That's what it sounded a
[3:13] Speaker 2: lot coming from behind me, but it it was bipedal.
[3:19] Speaker 2: I spun around. You know, it's a twenty two, but
[3:23] Speaker 2: it's what you have. And I'm prepared to try to
[3:27] Speaker 2: defend myself in my mind knowing that this isn't enough.
[3:32] Speaker 2: You know, you just know it's not enough. And then
[3:35] Speaker 2: I spent around. There's nothing there, and my mind just
[3:42] Speaker 2: is just spinning, like I'm freaking out, Like how did
[3:47] Speaker 2: I just hear the loudest footsteps I've ever heard of
[3:49] Speaker 2: my life running at me. But there's nothing there. So
[3:54] Speaker 2: I'm standing there for a good five minutes and I'm
[3:58] Speaker 2: just looking all around on I'm absorbing everything around me.
[4:02] Speaker 2: At the moment, I'm really just trying to figure out
[4:04] Speaker 2: what's going on. My heart's pumping like crazy.
[4:08] Speaker 3: Uh.
[4:08] Speaker 2: Someone once said it's like your heart's pumping peanut butter. Yeah,
[4:11] Speaker 2: that was that was the feeling I had. And I'm
[4:15] Speaker 2: just really trying to find anything to make sense at
[4:18] Speaker 2: this point, and nothing's making sense.
[4:21] Speaker 3: And then in the back.
[4:22] Speaker 2: Of my head I hear a clear, deep voice, this
[4:27] Speaker 2: is you need to leave. And now I'm really freaking out.
[4:33] Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, I get I get shaky just
[4:36] Speaker 2: thinking about it. I don't know if you can see
[4:39] Speaker 2: I got, Coach. It's hard for me to tell this story,
[4:42] Speaker 2: it really is. I don't want anybody to think I'm crazy,
[4:47] Speaker 2: but facts are facts.
[4:49] Speaker 3: This is what happened.
[4:51] Speaker 2: And I'm looking around and I'm just really trying to
[4:56] Speaker 2: put all this together, and it's just not making any sense.
[4:59] Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, am I losing my mind?
[5:01] Speaker 2: Because this just doesn't make sense? And so I said
[5:07] Speaker 2: something had to have rolled down this hill, maybe a
[5:11] Speaker 2: big rock, a tree limb. Maybe I'm just putting this
[5:14] Speaker 2: in my own mind. You know, I got to I
[5:16] Speaker 2: got to figure this out. So I make a semi
[5:20] Speaker 2: circle out about seventy five eighty feet.
[5:22] Speaker 3: And I'm looking.
[5:23] Speaker 2: I'm searching for anything that's disturbed. Something's got to make
[5:27] Speaker 2: sense here. And as I'm looking around, in the back
[5:31] Speaker 2: of my head, I hear this clear voice again, leave now.
[5:37] Speaker 2: And I'm talking, every hair on my body is just wire.
[5:41] Speaker 2: I clearly heard this. This This wasn't in my imagination.
[5:46] Speaker 2: And I said, I've got to get out of here,
[5:49] Speaker 2: and I went straight to the truck and I left.
[5:52] Speaker 2: And I carried this around with me for a long
[5:56] Speaker 2: time before I told anybody. Everybody was always like, oh,
[6:01] Speaker 2: you don't go hunting as much as you used to.
[6:04] Speaker 2: I made excuses. It's hard to admit when you're you know,
[6:12] Speaker 2: I'm a self professed redneck. I have no problem saying
[6:14] Speaker 2: that when you're supposedly an able bodied, healthy, redneck male
[6:22] Speaker 2: who's hunted his whole life, and all of a sudden,
[6:24] Speaker 2: you stopped showing interest in it.
[6:27] Speaker 3: There's a reason.
[6:29] Speaker 2: And I still went hunting a few more times after that,
[6:33] Speaker 2: but not much. And I was always a deer hunter,
[6:37] Speaker 2: and I didn't go very often after that. But the
[6:42] Speaker 2: very next time I did go, I went to a
[6:45] Speaker 2: different area, not too far away, and I get in
[6:49] Speaker 2: there early in the morning. It's starting to miss the rain.
[6:53] Speaker 2: I put rain jacket on and I just kind of
[6:56] Speaker 2: I'm sitting against this huge tree, just kind of taking
[6:59] Speaker 2: it all in, being quiet, trying to listen, and I
[7:02] Speaker 2: rested my head against the back of my gun barrel
[7:04] Speaker 2: thirty thirty.
[7:06] Speaker 3: And then.
[7:08] Speaker 2: Everything just goes completely quiet. I hear nothing, not one sound,
[7:15] Speaker 2: and it was like a slap it. It was so
[7:20] Speaker 2: shocking to go from crickets and leaves rustling and just
[7:24] Speaker 2: Dad zone.
[7:25] Speaker 3: Complete Dad zone.
[7:26] Speaker 2: And it caught my attention immediately, and I looked around,
[7:30] Speaker 2: and the longer I sat there, I was like, I
[7:33] Speaker 2: don't need to be here.
[7:34] Speaker 3: I don't need to be here right now.
[7:35] Speaker 2: I got to go and I gathered my stuff and
[7:39] Speaker 2: I got out of there, and I tried to stay
[7:41] Speaker 2: as straight to the path as I came in, right
[7:44] Speaker 2: back out. So you know, after that, I started talking
[7:52] Speaker 2: to a few people about it, not much. I found
[7:57] Speaker 2: an online community, and my online line community became my lifeline.
[8:03] Speaker 2: That's where I ended up meeting Harley Owens. And I've
[8:08] Speaker 2: met so many good people online. They've they've really been
[8:12] Speaker 2: a great help to me. But my first visual sighting
[8:18] Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty one the same road that I
[8:23] Speaker 2: had my mind speak experience. That road goes to my
[8:26] Speaker 2: parents' house. So I traveled this road a lot. I've
[8:32] Speaker 2: traveled my whole lot. I get up, It's Christmas morning,
[8:37] Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and I'm going to go visit my parents,
[8:41] Speaker 2: and my wife goes, oh, down there in the ridge,
[8:45] Speaker 2: I saw one of the biggest bucks I've ever seen
[8:47] Speaker 2: my life, probably the biggest. But I'm like, wow, really,
[8:51] Speaker 2: how big are we talking? And she said it was
[8:53] Speaker 2: at least a twelve maybe even a fourteen point. She said,
[8:57] Speaker 2: I'm talking like a massive rack on this deer.
[9:00] Speaker 3: Wow.
[9:01] Speaker 2: Like, you know, I'm not really hunting much anymore, but
[9:05] Speaker 2: if I could possibly, you know, get an easy sighting
[9:09] Speaker 2: of this deer, I might would consider going back. So
[9:12] Speaker 2: as I get to the ridge, this is the exact
[9:15] Speaker 2: same spot where I had the mind speak. I'm looking,
[9:18] Speaker 2: I slow down. I'm just doing like twenty mile an hour.
[9:22] Speaker 2: I look to my left and there is a big boot.
[9:29] Speaker 2: I call them force people these days because I don't
[9:32] Speaker 2: feel like they are an ape. Everybody has their own opinions.
[9:37] Speaker 2: But after hearing the stories and some Native Americans, and
[9:43] Speaker 2: I'm beginning to feel more like there are people. But
[9:46] Speaker 2: I see a force person. Huge but not like some
[9:51] Speaker 2: of the biggest ones that I've heard people talk about.
[9:54] Speaker 2: I always said it was built like Shaquille O'Neill, but
[9:58] Speaker 2: with reddish brown hair, about that long, maybe three to
[10:02] Speaker 2: four inches, and it's walking parallel to me. It's going
[10:08] Speaker 2: the same direction I'm going and travel, but it's sixty
[10:12] Speaker 2: to seventy feet off the road. Had it not moved,
[10:17] Speaker 2: there's a good chance I would have never saw it,
[10:19] Speaker 2: because there were some pretty good sized trees in that area,
[10:21] Speaker 2: and if it had just stayed behind one of those trees,
[10:24] Speaker 2: I would have never saw it. For there's a good
[10:27] Speaker 2: chance I wouldn't have. But this thing's walking. It's taken
[10:32] Speaker 2: five to six foot steps. With every step it's not running,
[10:36] Speaker 2: it's not evading. It's just like I wasn't there. It
[10:42] Speaker 2: completely ignored me, which is so counterintuitive to what we
[10:47] Speaker 2: know about it. But it was clearly walking. As it
[10:53] Speaker 2: would step, as it would take a backwards, the leg
[10:57] Speaker 2: would come up. I could see the hair lifting up
[11:00] Speaker 2: off the leg and sway. So you know, I've heard
[11:05] Speaker 2: people try to tell them it was a gilly suit.
[11:08] Speaker 2: There's no eight foot guys walking around in a gilly
[11:11] Speaker 2: suit right in this part of the country in gun season.
[11:17] Speaker 2: You know, it's getting towards the end of gun season.
[11:19] Speaker 2: If you hadn't got a buck by now, people get
[11:21] Speaker 2: that itchy finger. So for someone to try to hoax
[11:26] Speaker 2: in this area, that would first of all, they got
[11:29] Speaker 2: to be eight feet. And I'm telling you these people
[11:32] Speaker 2: around here, nobody's got a Hollywood quality bigfoot cost it.
[11:38] Speaker 2: Okay that that theory doesn't make sense either, but it
[11:43] Speaker 2: just it's walking. I see it for about five seconds,
[11:47] Speaker 2: and I have to watch the road too. I look
[11:50] Speaker 2: back at the road because there's a little hump in
[11:52] Speaker 2: the road and people tend to come across that hump
[11:54] Speaker 2: in the middle.
[11:54] Speaker 3: Of the road.
[11:55] Speaker 2: So I look back. It's still there, and then it
[12:00] Speaker 2: goes into a dip and there's a whole bunch of
[12:03] Speaker 2: laurels and bramble there, and that's when I lost sight
[12:06] Speaker 2: it dropped into that area.
[12:10] Speaker 3: I'm I'm freaking out.
[12:12] Speaker 2: I'm literally just like you know, back when I heard
[12:15] Speaker 2: the mind speak, I'm shaking. I'm like, I knew they
[12:19] Speaker 2: were real. I've always felt.
[12:21] Speaker 3: Like they were real.
[12:23] Speaker 2: The Patty film seemed real to me. But I always
[12:27] Speaker 2: thought that was a you know, that's a up Northwest
[12:30] Speaker 2: Coast thing. They I didn't know they were here. People
[12:36] Speaker 2: around here don't talk about it much. They're talking about
[12:39] Speaker 2: it more now than ever. You know, I see big
[12:43] Speaker 2: put stickers on the back of people's windows, you know,
[12:47] Speaker 2: and it makes me smile every time now because I'm like, hey,
[12:49] Speaker 2: that's that's a believer, you know. But I get to
[12:55] Speaker 2: the end of the road down there, and I stop,
[12:58] Speaker 2: and I'm like, maybe I should I should go back,
[13:00] Speaker 2: you know, maybe it massold go back to try to
[13:02] Speaker 2: see some more. But I'd always told myself if I
[13:06] Speaker 2: ever actually laid eyes on one, that was exactly how
[13:09] Speaker 2: I wanted it to happen. I was in my truck,
[13:12] Speaker 2: I felt safe, there was no aggression.
[13:16] Speaker 3: I got a good look at it.
[13:18] Speaker 2: I only saw it from the backside. I never saw
[13:21] Speaker 2: a face that might be for the best, I don't know,
[13:25] Speaker 2: because I've heard so many people say that, you know,
[13:30] Speaker 2: once they got an aggressive, mean face, they're traumatized by it, right,
[13:38] Speaker 2: So I kind of felt like I got what I'd
[13:41] Speaker 2: always wanted. My phone was laying there at the time.
[13:46] Speaker 2: I had one in a double fold case. Even if
[13:50] Speaker 2: I wanted to try to get picture, I would have
[13:51] Speaker 2: had to flip it open, turned it on, clipped it
[13:54] Speaker 2: onto camera, try to turn it up, try to focus,
[13:57] Speaker 2: try to drive it at the same time. It wouldn't happen.
[14:02] Speaker 2: It was over in five seconds. Anyways, by the time
[14:04] Speaker 2: i'd have picked my phone up and tried it, there
[14:07] Speaker 2: was no getting pictures evidence. But that never came to
[14:11] Speaker 2: my mind until it was basically over. So you know,
[14:15] Speaker 2: I've had a few people say, well, you saw one,
[14:17] Speaker 2: but you didn't get a picture.
[14:20] Speaker 3: No, No, I absolutely didn't.
[14:22] Speaker 2: And I understand why most people don't, and I understand
[14:26] Speaker 2: why most videos if they do get one, it's shaky
[14:29] Speaker 2: because we're not professional photographers and we're not professional videographers.
[14:35] Speaker 2: And when you see something like this. It's shocking, you know,
[14:39] Speaker 2: it's scary, it's shocking. It's these things are huge. You know,
[14:47] Speaker 2: people think that they've seen big things. But I've been
[14:53] Speaker 2: around a lot of wrestlers, so I go to wrestling.
[14:56] Speaker 2: I've met some pretty big guys. You know, he's now
[15:01] Speaker 2: the county mayor of Knoxville. You know I've been around
[15:06] Speaker 2: can really Yeah, yeah, he's he's now the of Knox County, Tennessee.
[15:14] Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, and that, you know, that's this whole thing.
[15:18] Speaker 2: You know, people some people love it, some people hate it,
[15:21] Speaker 2: you know, but you know, we won't get into political stuff.
[15:25] Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I've met him. He's six eight.
[15:30] Speaker 2: I've met Derek Mears, he's sixteen. I've been around some
[15:36] Speaker 2: big guys. Nothing they look like I would look next
[15:42] Speaker 2: to these guys compared to it. I mean, you know,
[15:48] Speaker 2: you got that upscale. It'd be like putting Kat Williams
[15:51] Speaker 2: next to Skill on him.
[15:53] Speaker 3: Right, you know.
[15:56] Speaker 2: But that that one really changed my life, Like the
[16:02] Speaker 2: mind speak made me question things, the visual confirm things
[16:08] Speaker 2: for me. At that point, I knew big Port was
[16:13] Speaker 2: one hundred percent real or the forest people. But now
[16:20] Speaker 2: I can't drive past any woods that I don't look
[16:24] Speaker 2: at those woods hard. You know, I'm rule, but I'm
[16:29] Speaker 2: not in the middle of nowhere. I have neighbors, so
[16:35] Speaker 2: that's what makes the foot impressions that I've been finding
[16:39] Speaker 2: near my home even more odd. Around twenty twenty two,
[16:44] Speaker 2: I believe twenty early twenty two, late twenty two, it
[16:48] Speaker 2: was after my siding, and I found five to six
[16:53] Speaker 2: footprints that come right around the end of my home
[16:58] Speaker 2: and stop three people from my bed and window. I
[17:02] Speaker 2: measured that track. It was seventeen inches long and six
[17:07] Speaker 2: to seven inches at the hill that I'd always had
[17:13] Speaker 2: motion lights up. But after that, that's when I decided
[17:16] Speaker 2: I got to have cameras. I got to know what's
[17:19] Speaker 2: going on around my house, because I'd already found a
[17:22] Speaker 2: couple of questionable footprints, but this this track way, I'm
[17:29] Speaker 2: pretty much the only person goes around there. I've got
[17:31] Speaker 2: a little building around there. I work out of it.
[17:34] Speaker 2: I make knives and things like that, and pretty much
[17:38] Speaker 2: I'm the only one who goes around this corner. So
[17:40] Speaker 2: there's all I had to put prints. I noticed them immediately,
[17:44] Speaker 2: and when I came around that corner that morning, the
[17:47] Speaker 2: leaves were disturbed. It was obvious foot prints. And when
[17:51] Speaker 2: I came around the corner and I see that last print,
[17:54] Speaker 2: and it is so obvious, and I look at my
[17:57] Speaker 2: bedroom window and I'm like, that's scared you a why
[18:03] Speaker 2: was it standing near my bedroom window? And and it
[18:08] Speaker 2: shook me, It really shook me. And then too, this
[18:14] Speaker 2: is so weird that I've heard some people say that
[18:18] Speaker 2: once you've encountered one, you can get tagged or something
[18:22] Speaker 2: along that line.
[18:26] Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not I'm not here.
[18:28] Speaker 2: To force that idea on anybody. I'm not here to
[18:31] Speaker 2: debate that idea with anybody.
[18:33] Speaker 3: It's just a theory.
[18:35] Speaker 2: But after my siding, I start finding footprints here. I
[18:42] Speaker 2: didn't find those before the siding. Now, the area of
[18:46] Speaker 2: the siding is only a mile from my house, but
[18:50] Speaker 2: before the siding, they weren't coming here. So take that,
[18:57] Speaker 2: you know, for what it is. But you know, I've
[19:02] Speaker 2: kind of after that. I can't say I didn't try
[19:06] Speaker 2: to encourage some interaction because I started kind of looking
[19:13] Speaker 2: for them. And then there's another area about a mile
[19:18] Speaker 2: from here. All this is around a lake. There's coves
[19:23] Speaker 2: and ridges and there's a lake, and there's different coves
[19:27] Speaker 2: that you can go into. And this whole area is
[19:30] Speaker 2: basically for three or four mile areas, kind of like
[19:32] Speaker 2: a bowl with different inlets. And I'm pretty sure they're
[19:37] Speaker 2: coming from the lake off in one of the back areas.
[19:42] Speaker 2: And I go to another area about a mile from here,
[19:47] Speaker 2: in a different direction, and I used to mow a
[19:50] Speaker 2: cemetery there. It's an older cemetery and it's at the
[19:55] Speaker 2: edge of a subdivision.
[19:57] Speaker 3: I keep getting a.
[19:58] Speaker 2: Feeling that I'm being walked watched while I'm at this cemetery.
[20:02] Speaker 2: Now I've knowed cemetery is my whole life. I'm not
[20:06] Speaker 2: afraid of cemeteries, but I just kept getting this speeling.
[20:12] Speaker 2: And so someone had suggested, said, we'll walk out to
[20:16] Speaker 2: the edge of the woods and just address them, just
[20:20] Speaker 2: talk to them.
[20:23] Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
[20:24] Speaker 2: I felt a little silly doing it, but I said, Okay,
[20:27] Speaker 2: if something's watching me, I'm I'm just gonna go address it.
[20:31] Speaker 2: And I walked away from the cemetery and I walked
[20:34] Speaker 2: into the older part of the cemetery that was near
[20:36] Speaker 2: the woods, and I was like, hey, you know, if
[20:40] Speaker 2: you're here, I'm not here to harm you. Now, I
[20:44] Speaker 2: do wear a protection on my side. But this is
[20:47] Speaker 2: not for you. This is for bad people, because there
[20:53] Speaker 2: are you know, not, there's insane people out there. And
[20:59] Speaker 2: I said, so, if you're worried about this, don't be
[21:02] Speaker 2: because this didn't per you. But I don't want to
[21:06] Speaker 2: have any bad feelings with any of you. So I'm
[21:11] Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking, like you know, this is a
[21:13] Speaker 2: waste of my time. I walked back, and thirty seconds later,
[21:17] Speaker 2: there's a definite limb snap, and like it snapped so
[21:22] Speaker 2: loud that I jumped.
[21:23] Speaker 3: I literally jumped.
[21:25] Speaker 2: It caught me so off gark because I'm not expecting anything,
[21:29] Speaker 2: you know, and I kind of felt like that was
[21:32] Speaker 2: them acknowledging my statement. Now call a coincidence whatever, it's
[21:40] Speaker 2: a pretty close coincidence that it happened thirty seconds after
[21:43] Speaker 2: I say this, you know, absolutely.
[21:46] Speaker 3: And I'm already.
[21:46] Speaker 2: Leaving apples, donuts things like that. When I would go
[21:51] Speaker 2: to mow, I would leave things in the woods, and
[21:55] Speaker 2: I tried to leave them up high and like I
[21:58] Speaker 2: would tie the apples up and balls of yarn and
[22:02] Speaker 2: dangle them from trees as high as I could reach
[22:04] Speaker 2: to try to keep any small critters from getting to them,
[22:07] Speaker 2: and the apples would be gone. Wow, the doughnuts would
[22:11] Speaker 2: be gone. But I tried a few other things, like
[22:15] Speaker 2: peanut butter sandwich that was never touched. I left one
[22:19] Speaker 2: in a bag, never touched, a couple of different things,
[22:23] Speaker 2: and then I had left some shiny rocks, a crystal.
[22:29] Speaker 2: I tried different things. A couple of things got gone,
[22:33] Speaker 2: some things got knocked off, and then somebody said leave tobacco.
[22:37] Speaker 3: And I had a peach cigar.
[22:40] Speaker 2: So I left this peach cigar and I always left
[22:43] Speaker 2: it in the crest of one tree, always the same spot.
[22:46] Speaker 2: I come back the next week, the cigar is crumpled,
[22:51] Speaker 2: and there's a set of tracks in the grass leading
[22:53] Speaker 2: from the tree line directly to the tree and directly away,
[22:57] Speaker 2: and the grass is mashed down that far. Could that
[23:01] Speaker 2: still have been a person? Sure? I'm not going to
[23:04] Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I can't sit there and say absolutely,
[23:07] Speaker 2: that's what happened. It's just when you have circumstance after
[23:11] Speaker 2: circumstance after circumstance, you kind of have to start feeling.
[23:15] Speaker 2: It's a certain way. I've heard screams. I've heard though,
[23:21] Speaker 2: how how when you add this and you add that
[23:25] Speaker 2: and you add this, and you add that, then it
[23:28] Speaker 2: you have to at some point start to go. This
[23:30] Speaker 2: is starting to pit together like a pop. I don't
[23:34] Speaker 2: think everything is a forest person. I don't think every
[23:37] Speaker 2: sounds a forest person. I try to be logical. There's
[23:41] Speaker 2: other animals out there, But I've never heard a coyote
[23:46] Speaker 2: make a two tone, twenty second long sound like what
[23:51] Speaker 2: I heard. And I heard it four times that morning.
[23:55] Speaker 2: I'm getting ready get in the truck to go to work.
[23:56] Speaker 2: I leave her out early in the morning to go
[23:58] Speaker 2: to work. I'm the only one out there in the dark,
[24:01] Speaker 2: and I hear ooh, and it's coming from the same
[24:07] Speaker 2: direction as my interactions have came from. So yeah, I
[24:13] Speaker 2: feel like that was, you know, definitely them. I don't
[24:19] Speaker 2: know what that means. You know, I'm not going to
[24:21] Speaker 2: call back to them. I'm not gonna. I don't I
[24:25] Speaker 2: don't whoop, I don't.
[24:27] Speaker 3: Beat on trees.
[24:30] Speaker 2: If that's their communication and you don't understand what you're saying,
[24:35] Speaker 2: then why I You know, I don't want to tell
[24:37] Speaker 2: anybody how.
[24:38] Speaker 3: To do what they do. You know what I mean?
[24:40] Speaker 2: That's you do your thing the way you feel you
[24:43] Speaker 2: need to do it. But That would be like me
[24:46] Speaker 2: trying to speak Spanish to someone and I don't know
[24:49] Speaker 2: how to speak Spanish, so if I made a sound
[24:53] Speaker 2: that sounded like sometimes, I wouldn't even know what it meant.
[24:55] Speaker 2: So that's that's my opinion. That's my view. And like
[25:00] Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to offend anybody for what
[25:03] Speaker 2: they do. Everybody do your thing. But that started over
[25:11] Speaker 2: a year period, I started getting turkey feathers left in
[25:18] Speaker 2: place of the gifts I was leaping. So that led
[25:24] Speaker 2: me to definitely feel like that was them. Because when
[25:27] Speaker 2: I would go out on my walks on the lake,
[25:30] Speaker 2: I would scavenge things to make decorative items out of.
[25:34] Speaker 2: And this feathers right here are some of the feathers
[25:38] Speaker 2: that I collected. This is one of the feathers turkey
[25:42] Speaker 2: feather was left for me got the cemetery, and I
[25:46] Speaker 2: keep it with me. I made it a part of
[25:48] Speaker 2: my hat. I wear that hat on special occasions and
[25:52] Speaker 2: at conventions and shows and things of that nature. So
[25:59] Speaker 2: I had the the whole gifting thing going on for
[26:01] Speaker 2: a little bit and then a couple of people had
[26:04] Speaker 2: told me, said you probably shouldn't gift, and I was
[26:08] Speaker 2: like why they was like, well, let's say something happens
[26:11] Speaker 2: and you stop gifting. They may not understand why you
[26:16] Speaker 2: stop gifting, and it may be upsetting to them, or
[26:20] Speaker 2: it could be insulting to them, or like definitely food,
[26:25] Speaker 2: It was like, if you're leaving food and they get
[26:28] Speaker 2: used to the food being there and then for some
[26:30] Speaker 2: reason you can't, Well, the next person just happens to
[26:34] Speaker 2: come by that cemetery to visit a grave could get
[26:37] Speaker 2: a bad interaction because they may associate people with food
[26:42] Speaker 2: at that point, and you could be setting someone else
[26:45] Speaker 2: up for a bad day, right, I don't know, you know,
[26:50] Speaker 2: this is all it's a guessing game, and we try
[26:54] Speaker 2: things and we try to we're trying to communicate, and
[27:00] Speaker 2: we don't always know if the way we see it
[27:04] Speaker 2: is the way they see it. So I try to
[27:08] Speaker 2: I try to keep all this in mind, you know.
[27:12] Speaker 3: But I've.
[27:16] Speaker 2: I've changed my position on this many times because I
[27:21] Speaker 2: first started out, well, you know, this is a West
[27:23] Speaker 2: Coast thing, Well, this is a relic home in it
[27:27] Speaker 2: or a an undiscovered Grade eight, And then after I've
[27:34] Speaker 2: watched probably five thousand hours or better of podcasts and
[27:40] Speaker 2: documentaries and people's opinions and some things just don't make sense.
[27:45] Speaker 2: I mean, there's intelligent interaction going on, and some things
[27:52] Speaker 2: just seem too too intelligent to me to be an
[27:57] Speaker 2: ape or an ape behaveavior. There's you know, I want
[28:10] Speaker 2: to think that I'm an intelligent person, and I feel
[28:14] Speaker 2: like I would be remiss if I didn't listen to
[28:18] Speaker 2: everyone's experiences and try to gather, you know, a full,
[28:26] Speaker 2: a full understanding of what's going on.
[28:29] Speaker 3: You know.
[28:30] Speaker 2: I know you did a couple episodes with Carrie from
[28:33] Speaker 2: over in near Harley, Yeah, and she had a walk
[28:37] Speaker 2: going on there, and and so some of this behavior
[28:43] Speaker 2: just doesn't seem natural or in the way that we
[28:48] Speaker 2: think natural is. So I'm trying to I guess I'm
[28:54] Speaker 2: trying to burn the candle at both ends here. I'm
[28:56] Speaker 2: trying to trying to take in everyone's experiences and everyone's thoughts,
[29:00] Speaker 2: and and you know, not everybody has good experiences.
[29:05] Speaker 3: You know.
[29:06] Speaker 2: I was talking to Greg House from Woodwalkers, and you know,
[29:10] Speaker 2: and he got chased out of the woods and he
[29:13] Speaker 2: felt like if he didn't have that rifle with him
[29:16] Speaker 2: that day, he wouldn't have went home, you know. So yeah, Lord,
[29:25] Speaker 2: I just there's so much there's so much and I
[29:30] Speaker 2: try to I try to be fair with everyone and
[29:33] Speaker 2: listen to their experiences. And I know some people are
[29:36] Speaker 2: going to hear what I've said today and think this
[29:38] Speaker 2: guy's crazy. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
[29:42] Speaker 2: You know, he's hearing voices in his head. He's crazy.
[29:47] Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you other than the
[29:49] Speaker 2: fact that I'll put my hand on a Bible, I'll
[29:53] Speaker 2: take a lot of detector test, you know what I mean.
[29:57] Speaker 3: I've heard what I heard.
[30:00] Speaker 2: And absolutely I've seen what I've seen, you know, and
[30:05] Speaker 2: then you know, all this is kind of led up to.
[30:10] Speaker 3: Here.
[30:10] Speaker 2: Recently, in the last two months, I've had three visuals.
[30:17] Speaker 3: Wow, some people see one one their entire life.
[30:22] Speaker 2: And if I only saw that one, I'd have been
[30:24] Speaker 2: trust me, I'd have been satisfied with that. Coming back
[30:30] Speaker 2: through the Area Woods, I was coming back from my
[30:32] Speaker 2: parents' house again. This was two months ago. The way
[30:39] Speaker 2: this road is, it's kind of like a little roller coasters.
[30:41] Speaker 2: It's kind of like humps in it, and you have
[30:43] Speaker 2: to be paying attention to the road. And typically I'll
[30:46] Speaker 2: meet two or three vehicles coming through there, so I
[30:49] Speaker 2: don't get to look off the road very much. I always,
[30:51] Speaker 2: you know, try to be a good driver. This night,
[30:54] Speaker 2: I met no one, so I'm able to kind of
[30:57] Speaker 2: scan the side of the road a little bit better.
[31:00] Speaker 2: And as I come through a dip, I look over
[31:03] Speaker 2: and there's got to be at least ten foot bigfoot
[31:07] Speaker 2: forest person. He's reaching from tree to tree and he
[31:11] Speaker 2: stretched out. His whole body is stretched out. I see
[31:15] Speaker 2: the entire form. I see the left leg, the left arm,
[31:19] Speaker 2: the neck. I could see hair under the armpit as
[31:24] Speaker 2: it's reaching for that next tree. And once again, this
[31:29] Speaker 2: behavior makes no sense because they see me coming. I
[31:32] Speaker 2: got lights on, I got a I'm in a truck.
[31:34] Speaker 2: It's not quiet. Why not just stand still?
[31:40] Speaker 3: You know? Why move? It doesn't make sense.
[31:45] Speaker 2: So, you know, I see this and I'm like, holy crap,
[31:49] Speaker 2: that one's got to be two foot bigger than the
[31:51] Speaker 2: first one I saw. And the first one I saw
[31:55] Speaker 2: was brown. Of course, this is you know, dust. It
[31:57] Speaker 2: looked this one looked black. It did not look like
[31:59] Speaker 2: the same one, and I don't believe it was the
[32:02] Speaker 2: same one. This one was way wider, it was at
[32:09] Speaker 2: least two foot taller, and it just looked huge like
[32:13] Speaker 2: the first one. Looked a little more I don't want
[32:16] Speaker 2: to say athletic, but it definitely was not massive, So
[32:19] Speaker 2: it possibly could have been a juvenile or a female.
[32:23] Speaker 2: This one looked like a big male. He looked huge.
[32:28] Speaker 2: So again, you know, I'm like, holy crap. And as
[32:31] Speaker 2: sin as I get home, I message hardly and I'm like,
[32:33] Speaker 2: you're not going to believe this.
[32:36] Speaker 3: Just saw one, you know.
[32:38] Speaker 2: He's like where and I'm like, almost like within five
[32:41] Speaker 2: hundred yards before I saw the first one, And he's like,
[32:44] Speaker 2: holy crap, We're gonna have to get out there and
[32:46] Speaker 2: take some measurements, you know. And I'm like, I don't
[32:49] Speaker 2: know if I'm cool with that. You know, for somebody
[32:53] Speaker 2: that wants to see him, I don't want to see him.
[32:55] Speaker 2: For somebody that wants to have a little bit of
[32:58] Speaker 2: an interaction, I'm also scared. I I don't know. It's
[33:05] Speaker 2: it's you know, I was talking to early about this yesterday.
[33:08] Speaker 3: It's just like I don't always know.
[33:13] Speaker 2: How I feel because at times I'm like I need
[33:17] Speaker 2: to keep my butt home. I need to I need
[33:20] Speaker 2: to play this safe. I don't need to I don't
[33:22] Speaker 2: need to try to encourage anything to happen, and then
[33:27] Speaker 2: at other times, I'm like, how are we gonna how
[33:30] Speaker 2: are we going to ever further this if we don't
[33:33] Speaker 2: get some answers. You know, how are we ever going
[33:36] Speaker 2: to convince people that they're real if we don't get
[33:40] Speaker 2: the good evidence. And for my own sake, I just
[33:45] Speaker 2: want to know. I want I want answers. If I
[33:50] Speaker 2: leave this world without them, okay, cool, I'm I'm going
[33:53] Speaker 2: to a better place anyways, I still want to know.
[33:57] Speaker 2: You know, there's there's there's a peace in me that's
[33:59] Speaker 2: just got to know. And so I was like, okay,
[34:05] Speaker 2: you know, I told Hardly, we'll go back out come.
[34:07] Speaker 2: You know, we've got a trip planned out to his
[34:10] Speaker 2: research area coming in December.
[34:12] Speaker 3: But so.
[34:16] Speaker 2: That happened, and then Labor Day weekend, I'm outside. I've
[34:23] Speaker 2: been working in my building. I don't like to be
[34:25] Speaker 2: out there after dark anymore. That's that's a part of
[34:29] Speaker 2: my whole scared thing. With the motion lights, with the cameras,
[34:33] Speaker 2: I still sometimes get a bad building when I'm out
[34:36] Speaker 2: there in the building. I just get a bad building,
[34:38] Speaker 2: like you don't need to be out here right now,
[34:40] Speaker 2: you need to go in. And I'm out there in
[34:43] Speaker 2: the building work and I'm trying to I'm trying to
[34:46] Speaker 2: top myself up. I'm like, you know, you've got to
[34:48] Speaker 2: get over this. You need to you need to get
[34:51] Speaker 2: past this. So I pushed past what I normally do.
[34:55] Speaker 2: I stayed out there well past dark. I'm working on
[34:58] Speaker 2: a knife. I walk up, I walk around the corner
[35:03] Speaker 2: and I've got a little little fire pit there. I
[35:06] Speaker 2: take my wood scraps and I burn them in the
[35:08] Speaker 2: fire pit. I start busting up some of the little
[35:12] Speaker 2: wood pieces, even smaller for kindling. And I see the
[35:16] Speaker 2: motion lot in the backyard come on. So I'm just
[35:20] Speaker 2: you know, sometimes raccoons and stuff come through. It's not
[35:23] Speaker 2: that big a deal to see the motion loight come on.
[35:26] Speaker 2: So I just kind of look over. But as I
[35:30] Speaker 2: look behind my building, which is the only blind spot
[35:34] Speaker 2: in my entire yard, I see a figure right against
[35:40] Speaker 2: the building, and I thought, well, you need to find
[35:45] Speaker 2: out what this is. So I walk over and I
[35:48] Speaker 2: sent you a picture of my little building there, and
[35:53] Speaker 2: I've got a little bench in front of it, and
[35:57] Speaker 2: the backside of that building is where it was. Yeah,
[36:02] Speaker 2: right there, right behind that ladder, that's where it was at.
[36:07] Speaker 2: And like I said, the cameras can't see back there.
[36:09] Speaker 2: There's a camera on that corner facing the house, and
[36:13] Speaker 2: then there's a camera on the back of the house
[36:16] Speaker 2: facing toward the building. But in that little area right
[36:19] Speaker 2: there behind that ladder is the only dark spot where
[36:23] Speaker 2: I don't have coverage. That thing was standing right up
[36:27] Speaker 2: against the building in that little area right there, and
[36:30] Speaker 2: its head was almost up to under that edge, and
[36:37] Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's like seven feet and I was like,
[36:41] Speaker 2: holy crap. You know, at this point, I'm thirty feet
[36:44] Speaker 2: away and the only thing between me and it's that
[36:47] Speaker 2: little old table sitting there, and I had the machete
[36:53] Speaker 2: still in my hand from where I was busting up
[36:55] Speaker 2: that wood. And I look and at this point, you know,
[36:59] Speaker 2: I and I can't see its space, but I can
[37:01] Speaker 2: see its entire form, and it's black, it's big, and
[37:06] Speaker 2: I just look at it and I go, hey, I
[37:08] Speaker 2: see you over there. I'm going to go back over
[37:12] Speaker 2: here to my fire pit. And I just turned around
[37:17] Speaker 2: and backed away, and I went back to my fire pit,
[37:21] Speaker 2: and I stood there and I watched in that direction,
[37:23] Speaker 2: and it just drifted over into those trees and drifted
[37:28] Speaker 2: back into the tree line and disappeared. So that's my
[37:34] Speaker 2: closest encounter. And even though it was the closest, is
[37:40] Speaker 2: still in the dark, and I didn't get like the
[37:42] Speaker 2: best look at it. I still didn't get like a
[37:45] Speaker 2: facial feature. But I didn't have a bad feeling. Like
[37:52] Speaker 2: in the past, anytime I'd had any kind of anything,
[37:56] Speaker 2: I always felt a little negative about it, like it
[38:01] Speaker 2: just gave me a bad rub. This one, like it
[38:07] Speaker 2: didn't terrify me. It didn't scare me. And I don't
[38:11] Speaker 2: know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
[38:12] Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm getting used to it or
[38:14] Speaker 2: like there's a vibe there that I felt like it
[38:19] Speaker 2: wasn't going to hurt me. But if it was standing
[38:22] Speaker 2: there when I was still inside my building, literally I
[38:26] Speaker 2: was feet from it with just that little wall between us, and.
[38:31] Speaker 3: I had no bad building.
[38:34] Speaker 2: So that was that was And I openerformed me because
[38:42] Speaker 2: I hadn't been finding any tracks since I put the
[38:44] Speaker 2: cameras up, and I didn't feel like they were possibly
[38:47] Speaker 2: coming around.
[38:49] Speaker 3: But now I know they still come around.
[38:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just getting smart enough to not be around
[38:55] Speaker 1: the cameras, which, yeah, that's really interesting.
[39:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, I've got I've got motion lights.
[39:03] Speaker 2: Right on the on the inside of this bench here,
[39:06] Speaker 2: there's a motion light. And then up on the corner
[39:09] Speaker 2: of that building there above those metal signs, there's a
[39:12] Speaker 2: camera facing toward the house that way. So that's the
[39:16] Speaker 2: that's the only dead zone out there is right behind
[39:18] Speaker 2: that building. And you can follow that tree line from
[39:23] Speaker 2: property to property all the way back to the lake.
[39:29] Speaker 2: So that's that's like, I know, some animals are good
[39:33] Speaker 2: at hiding. I'm not doubting that, but that shows real
[39:38] Speaker 2: intelligence right there, that it found the only blind spot
[39:43] Speaker 2: in my security network and it drifted into it quietly
[39:47] Speaker 2: and was just watching.
[39:50] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And that was you said two months ago.
[39:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was It was on a Friday night.
[39:56] Speaker 2: I was home alone, and I've just been out there
[39:59] Speaker 2: working and like I said, trying to be a brave
[40:03] Speaker 2: little soldier and get my nerve up because, like I said,
[40:06] Speaker 2: my wife makes fun of me saying I'm afraid of
[40:08] Speaker 2: the dark, and I'm like, no, I'm not afraid of
[40:10] Speaker 2: the dark. I'm afraid of what's in the dark because
[40:14] Speaker 2: I know they're out there. That's you know, once you
[40:18] Speaker 2: know they're there, you just can't look at things the
[40:20] Speaker 2: same anymore. And there's plenty of people out there way
[40:26] Speaker 2: braver and I am. I mean, yeah, do do I
[40:30] Speaker 2: sometimes go out looking and looking for evidence?
[40:32] Speaker 3: I do.
[40:34] Speaker 2: I don't do night investigations. I don't try to put
[40:38] Speaker 2: myself out there and really really far away from my.
[40:41] Speaker 3: Vehicle or far away from the road.
[40:45] Speaker 2: I'm not an armchair but I'm definitely not a full
[40:49] Speaker 2: pleasure researcher. I'm a witness. I'm a believer. I'm a knower.
[40:56] Speaker 2: And like I went out with Harley and I'm going
[40:58] Speaker 2: to go out with Harley again, and I'm trying to
[41:01] Speaker 2: trying to put myself out there a little bit. And yeah,
[41:06] Speaker 2: I mean I'll be a little braver when I got
[41:08] Speaker 2: somebody with me.
[41:09] Speaker 3: I definitely do.
[41:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Robbie. But a lot of it is, I mean,
[41:15] Speaker 1: you don't really have to go out. It's like to
[41:17] Speaker 1: come at least once they've come to your place, you know.
[41:23] Speaker 2: Well, you know with that trackway, that's more than once.
[41:26] Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[41:29] Speaker 2: But I've kind of noticed that it almost seems like
[41:31] Speaker 2: a pattern, like it's been four to five years, Like
[41:36] Speaker 2: twenty seventeen was when I had to mind speak twenty
[41:39] Speaker 2: twenty one is when I had deciding, and now it's
[41:42] Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and it's back. It's almost I'm beginning
[41:47] Speaker 2: to think there's a pattern of about four years, four
[41:50] Speaker 2: to five years that they're coming around, so that might
[41:55] Speaker 2: be a coincidence. But I just got to think my
[41:58] Speaker 2: initial mind speaker and then around September of twenty.
[42:02] Speaker 1: Seventeen, okay, and then that's interesting.
[42:06] Speaker 2: My first sighting was December of twenty twenty one, and
[42:11] Speaker 2: then my two sidings recently were around October September, so
[42:22] Speaker 2: which led up to this last sighting. And this is
[42:28] Speaker 2: the one that really really shook me.
[42:31] Speaker 1: This is the one where I'm pretty sure, just to
[42:34] Speaker 1: jump in for say, I think this is the one
[42:37] Speaker 1: where Harley called me up afterwards, like either that night
[42:42] Speaker 1: or the next day, and he shook up. I'm pretty
[42:45] Speaker 1: sure this is the same one.
[42:46] Speaker 2: But continue, Yeah, yeah, this is definitely the Harley Owens experience.
[42:53] Speaker 2: I kind of feel like me and him both for
[42:55] Speaker 2: some reason. We have a lot of activity, we have
[42:58] Speaker 2: a lot of evidence, more so than some people that
[43:02] Speaker 2: have been looking for twenty years. And I don't know
[43:05] Speaker 2: if it's meant to be or.
[43:10] Speaker 3: Like I've heard say.
[43:13] Speaker 2: Some people say, like, you're high vibration person, like they
[43:16] Speaker 2: can maybe they pick up on you, they pick up
[43:18] Speaker 2: on your vibe, they pick up on your intention. I'm
[43:23] Speaker 2: not saying that's true. I'm saying that's things I've heard.
[43:27] Speaker 2: So Hardly wanted me to go with him out to
[43:29] Speaker 2: his research area, and I was like, sure, I've been
[43:32] Speaker 2: wanting to go out with you. You know, I want
[43:35] Speaker 2: to support you. I want to go out and get
[43:40] Speaker 2: out in a different area. I've never been in that area.
[43:44] Speaker 2: I like, I said, I lived thirty minutes from there,
[43:46] Speaker 2: about forty minutes from the actual research area, but I've
[43:49] Speaker 2: never been off the main road over there. So we'll
[43:54] Speaker 2: get in there. That area is so much different than
[43:59] Speaker 2: here because it's near the National Park.
[44:03] Speaker 3: It's the laurels are so thick.
[44:08] Speaker 2: Once we got down in that valley, you couldn't see
[44:12] Speaker 2: fifteen feet on either side of you. And we start
[44:16] Speaker 2: finding tracks. We found fourteen inch tracks, we found seventeen
[44:21] Speaker 2: inch tracks, we found nineteen inch tracks, and we found
[44:24] Speaker 2: twenty two inch tracks. So we know there's four different
[44:28] Speaker 2: individuals in here because there's four different sized tracks. So
[44:33] Speaker 2: we're going through this valley and Harley's been in here
[44:36] Speaker 2: more multiple times, so he knows that we start getting
[44:40] Speaker 2: things tossed at us. Okay, this is new for me.
[44:46] Speaker 2: Like I've seen them, I've heard them, I've never had
[44:51] Speaker 2: them interact with me. So Harley's like, hey, Robbie's a friend, now,
[44:57] Speaker 2: don't act like that, you know, just making conversation with them.
[45:00] Speaker 2: And I'm like, is there really a good idea to
[45:03] Speaker 2: say that to him?
[45:03] Speaker 3: Hartley?
[45:04] Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't think we should tell
[45:07] Speaker 2: them how to, you know, how to act with me.
[45:09] Speaker 2: And He's like, come on there, they they've never they've never,
[45:13] Speaker 2: you know, got rude with me or anything. I'm like, okay.
[45:17] Speaker 2: So we went our way down. Then we find there's
[45:20] Speaker 2: a little spring in there, and all of a sudden,
[45:23] Speaker 2: the grounds just all tore up and and we're inspecting
[45:27] Speaker 2: it and it looks like possibly something got took down
[45:32] Speaker 2: in this area. There's a big smudge, and Harley walks
[45:36] Speaker 2: around the other side of it and there there's clearly
[45:38] Speaker 2: a handprint in the mud. Goodness, and we got pictures
[45:44] Speaker 2: and videos of it, and Harley's posted the pictures. Well,
[45:47] Speaker 2: we got to looking leading up to that side, the
[45:50] Speaker 2: grounds all tore up, and we're trying to figure out
[45:52] Speaker 2: if it was a boar, a bear, a deer, what
[45:56] Speaker 2: what got took out at this point, and we couldn't
[46:01] Speaker 2: really make out any distinguishable tracks, but there was clearly
[46:04] Speaker 2: a torn up area. And I recorded all this with
[46:08] Speaker 2: my phone, but the phone won't let me send them
[46:12] Speaker 2: because I recorded for eight to fifteen minutes at a time,
[46:14] Speaker 2: and I'm having trouble sending them. But I don't know
[46:18] Speaker 2: if I'm gonna have to download them onto a file
[46:20] Speaker 2: and then send the file or how I'm going to
[46:23] Speaker 2: have to do that.
[46:23] Speaker 1: Probably yes, yeah, I'm.
[46:26] Speaker 2: Not a tech person at all. But so we go
[46:30] Speaker 2: on down. There's some other things Hardly wanted to show me.
[46:35] Speaker 2: So this whole time, I've had this little inkling in
[46:40] Speaker 2: my head like we need to leave, Like I kind
[46:43] Speaker 2: of felt like we'd stayed or welcome, you know, we
[46:45] Speaker 2: need to get out. But you know, Harley's trying to
[46:48] Speaker 2: show me everything, and I'm like, you know, okay, yeah,
[46:51] Speaker 2: we start back up through, we follow our same tracks.
[46:54] Speaker 2: We get back up just past the takedown side, and
[46:57] Speaker 2: Harley's you know, making a few whoops and you know,
[47:02] Speaker 2: he clapped a few times and some more things started
[47:06] Speaker 2: getting tossed, and we can hear them on both sides
[47:11] Speaker 2: of the laurel. We know they're there. There's no if
[47:16] Speaker 2: ans or butts. We're being walked out, and we had
[47:21] Speaker 2: heard something on the way in, so we kind of
[47:24] Speaker 2: felt like they were there then, but like on the
[47:26] Speaker 2: way out, we definitely know they're there. And like I said,
[47:28] Speaker 2: they're just fifteen feet on each side of us. So
[47:34] Speaker 2: at this point I'm a little nervous. So we get
[47:39] Speaker 2: closer to being out, and then all of a sudden,
[47:44] Speaker 2: we hear tree knocks, and then I'm like, man, this
[47:49] Speaker 2: we're getting the whole gambit here. You know, I heard
[47:52] Speaker 2: one tree knock in my life, and it was on
[47:54] Speaker 2: the other side of the lake. I was fishing and
[47:57] Speaker 2: I heard one tree knock. This is three wraps in
[48:01] Speaker 2: a row back and then we hear again back back
[48:06] Speaker 2: back in a different area, and then it sounds like
[48:10] Speaker 2: rock clacks, and I'm like, man, this is wild. Like
[48:15] Speaker 2: I've got tracks, I've got clearly being walked out, I've
[48:21] Speaker 2: got rock throws, like this is just the whole thing
[48:24] Speaker 2: of what people get. And then it got aggressive. Then
[48:31] Speaker 2: there were three growls and at this point, I'm I'm
[48:37] Speaker 2: losing my skin, you know, Like I thought i'd been
[48:40] Speaker 2: scared in the past. Now I'm scared because I know
[48:43] Speaker 2: we're surrounded and it's starting to get tense. So at
[48:48] Speaker 2: this point I had actually moved ahead of Harley, and
[48:53] Speaker 2: I have my phone on video.
[48:54] Speaker 3: I'm videoing behind us.
[48:58] Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you hear the little go and
[49:01] Speaker 2: start snapping, and Harley's like go and and I take
[49:06] Speaker 2: two or three steps and I look over my shoulder
[49:08] Speaker 2: and he's like go, it's right behind me, and he's
[49:13] Speaker 2: pretty much gave me a little push in the back,
[49:15] Speaker 2: and I'm you know, I'm not in the best shape guys.
[49:18] Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying my best to get up this
[49:20] Speaker 2: wet valley. And then I look over my shoulder and
[49:26] Speaker 2: I see it behind Harvey.
[49:28] Speaker 3: No way, I had a just very good visual.
[49:33] Speaker 2: I could see the neck and the head.
[49:35] Speaker 3: You know.
[49:36] Speaker 2: I'm five seven, Harley six six, and we're on a bank.
[49:43] Speaker 2: I look over Harley's shoulder and it's coming and it's
[49:48] Speaker 2: more of an eight face, the grillish looking epe face.
[49:55] Speaker 2: It's got around it head. There's not like the big
[49:57] Speaker 2: cradulalle best crest it's it's more rounded. Eyes were real
[50:02] Speaker 2: far apart black eyes, and it looks angry, and I'm thinking,
[50:08] Speaker 2: holy crap, I'm going to die here, so go go.
[50:16] Speaker 2: So we get up the bank and it pops out
[50:18] Speaker 2: into an opening. And at this point I remember I'm armed,
[50:24] Speaker 2: because I don't go anywhere unarmed, and I put my
[50:28] Speaker 2: hand on it. I don't draw it. I put my
[50:30] Speaker 2: hand on it. And then we stop and we look
[50:34] Speaker 2: back and I see a dark figure about eighty yards away,
[50:39] Speaker 2: and I apologize. I was like, I'm sorry, we got
[50:44] Speaker 2: the message, we're leave it. And I don't know if
[50:49] Speaker 2: that's the one that was behind us and it averted
[50:52] Speaker 2: up the bank, or if that was one of the
[50:53] Speaker 2: other ones. But there was definitely a dark figure up
[50:56] Speaker 2: that bank. So we started out and I asked Arlie.
[51:03] Speaker 2: I said, are you armed? He goes no. I said,
[51:07] Speaker 2: you're not armed.
[51:08] Speaker 3: He goes.
[51:08] Speaker 2: I got my axe in ma machete, so I had two.
[51:12] Speaker 2: I hand him one, and we still have to walk
[51:16] Speaker 2: a mile.
[51:17] Speaker 3: Out of here.
[51:18] Speaker 1: Oh man.
[51:19] Speaker 2: After this interaction, oh I forgot. And we also got
[51:24] Speaker 2: the smell. I've never had the smell before, but right
[51:28] Speaker 2: before the grouse started, I got the then she's like
[51:32] Speaker 2: almost an acidic smell. So, like I said, I got
[51:36] Speaker 2: the whole gambit on this. I got throws, I got growls,
[51:39] Speaker 2: I got stalked, I got smell, and then chased. And
[51:46] Speaker 2: it was terra paining. I mean, it's absolutely terri paying.
[51:51] Speaker 2: I haven't covered a mile aground that fast since high
[51:55] Speaker 2: school and that was one hundred pounds of lader right,
[52:00] Speaker 2: And honestly, by the time we got out of there,
[52:04] Speaker 2: my hand was cramped. I had my hand on that
[52:07] Speaker 2: pistol so tight that my hand hurt me the rest
[52:11] Speaker 2: of the night. I literally had a depth grip on
[52:14] Speaker 2: this thing, and it was a block twenty ten millimeter
[52:21] Speaker 2: with bare rounds. I don't know if that would stop one.
[52:25] Speaker 2: I don't want to find out. I feel a little
[52:28] Speaker 2: better having it, but I don't ever want to try
[52:32] Speaker 2: to find out. I don't want to have bad interactions.
[52:36] Speaker 2: I don't want to drag one in. I don't want
[52:38] Speaker 2: to kill one. I don't know that if you did,
[52:44] Speaker 2: you'd ever actually get it to the public. Yeah, exactly,
[52:48] Speaker 2: because I've heard many people say that if you try that,
[52:51] Speaker 2: you'll probably get stopped before you ever get it to
[52:53] Speaker 2: that point, and you'll be labeled as a poacher or
[53:00] Speaker 2: something along that line.
[53:01] Speaker 3: You know.
[53:02] Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into all that. That's neither
[53:04] Speaker 2: here nor there, right, But I honestly, even with that.
[53:13] Speaker 3: I was petrified. I was petrified.
[53:15] Speaker 2: I had sixteen rounds of two hundred and thirty green
[53:19] Speaker 2: hard cast back rounds, and I still felt like it
[53:23] Speaker 2: wouldn't enough, and especially knowing that there was probably four
[53:27] Speaker 2: of them and there's two of us, so we're out numbered.
[53:34] Speaker 2: We're in the middle of nowhere, and they got rude
[53:39] Speaker 2: with us, you know. So yeah, that walk out of
[53:42] Speaker 2: there was intense. It was really intense, and I didn't
[53:49] Speaker 2: have nightmares about it, but I think about it a lot.
[53:53] Speaker 1: I don't blame you. I would be thinking about that constantly,
[53:57] Speaker 1: and that would affect everything from there on out.
[54:00] Speaker 2: There's there's I can see how people don't believe because
[54:04] Speaker 2: they've never had these interactions like we have. But like
[54:10] Speaker 2: I said, I'll put my hand on stack of Bibles
[54:12] Speaker 2: and take a light detect your test. I am the truth.
[54:16] Speaker 2: And if you don't believe me, I'm sorry.
[54:18] Speaker 3: You know I can't.
[54:20] Speaker 2: I can't do anything else to prove it to you,
[54:22] Speaker 2: except but get out there and go look for yourself.
[54:25] Speaker 3: You know.
[54:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody that looks has interactions.
[54:32] Speaker 1: Absolutely not one hundred percent. No, I agree with you on.
[54:36] Speaker 2: That location timing. If they didn't want us to know
[54:44] Speaker 2: they were there that day, they would have just been quiet.
[54:47] Speaker 2: They would just let us walk in, walked out, and
[54:51] Speaker 2: you know, I would have been like, yeah, we found tracks.
[54:53] Speaker 2: I know they're here, but that's all I would have
[54:56] Speaker 2: had was tracks. But they put that little, that little
[55:03] Speaker 2: sting on the end of it. There's like get out,
[55:07] Speaker 2: and I don't you know, I'd, like I said, if
[55:10] Speaker 2: they wanted us that day, it wouldn't have been a
[55:14] Speaker 2: question because they already had us surrounded. They could have
[55:19] Speaker 2: overpowered us in seconds. They just wanted us out.
[55:26] Speaker 1: So I have a few questions about that, and some
[55:29] Speaker 1: of these I might have to ask Harley afterwards. So
[55:35] Speaker 1: do you think there's video of that interaction where something
[55:40] Speaker 1: rushes at you guys, at least the audio of it
[55:44] Speaker 1: on the video.
[55:45] Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that always happens, and it seems
[55:48] Speaker 2: that people say it and say it and say it.
[55:51] Speaker 2: I get in the truck. Harley's like, you got that right,
[55:53] Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, I got that. I click on
[55:56] Speaker 2: my phone. I look, there's a video up to the
[55:58] Speaker 2: point that we start hearing the tree knocks in the growl,
[56:03] Speaker 2: and then my phone shut off.
[56:04] Speaker 1: No way, Oh well, yeah, of course it would. I mean, yeah,
[56:08] Speaker 1: that that perfectly lines up with the whole Yeah, everything electronic.
[56:13] Speaker 2: Just you know, and I know critics are going to
[56:17] Speaker 2: be like, oh, of course, yeah, of course you didn't
[56:20] Speaker 2: get it. Trust me. When I got in that truck
[56:23] Speaker 2: and I looked and I didn't have that, I became nauseous.
[56:26] Speaker 2: I physically became nauseous because I'm like, how did I
[56:32] Speaker 2: not get that?
[56:34] Speaker 3: How did Now?
[56:36] Speaker 2: I can't swear to you that while I wasn't running
[56:39] Speaker 2: for my life, I didn't accidentally hit the button, because
[56:42] Speaker 2: trust me, at that point I stopped trying to get
[56:45] Speaker 2: video and was trying to get out. Could I have
[56:48] Speaker 2: accidentally hit the button, Sure, but the timing just is
[56:54] Speaker 2: so I had forty something minutes of us in there,
[56:58] Speaker 2: and then when the magic happens, I don't get it.
[57:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it. Photography.
[57:04] Speaker 2: I've took racetrack photography, and that's like the most pivotal
[57:11] Speaker 2: thing they ever needed to catch in my life.
[57:15] Speaker 3: I missed it.
[57:18] Speaker 2: You know, the phone in my hand had been videoing minutes,
[57:23] Speaker 2: you know, seconds before, and then I don't have it.
[57:28] Speaker 3: It was upsetting.
[57:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be extremely frustrated. I am going to
[57:33] Speaker 1: ask Harley. I wonder if he was wearing his setup
[57:37] Speaker 1: where he's taking the video on facing the back, you
[57:42] Speaker 1: know what I mean, he was the whole setup. He
[57:44] Speaker 1: wasn't oh man, oh man, he.
[57:47] Speaker 3: Didn't have his back set up on. Uh.
[57:51] Speaker 2: I mean it was the biggest interaction of either one
[57:53] Speaker 2: of US's life.
[57:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, I missed it. We just missed it. And it's heartbreaking.
[57:59] Speaker 3: It really is.
[58:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
[58:01] Speaker 2: I mean I was nauseous for an hour after that
[58:04] Speaker 2: because I was so disappointed in myself. Yeah, but I
[58:07] Speaker 2: know it's happened to multiple people, so I mean, I'm
[58:10] Speaker 2: not the first one that dropped the ball. But like
[58:14] Speaker 2: I said, I did they do it?
[58:16] Speaker 3: Did I do it?
[58:18] Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't. I'm not going to sit
[58:20] Speaker 2: here and say they turned my phone off.
[58:22] Speaker 3: I don't.
[58:23] Speaker 2: But you know, it's like my wife went out one
[58:27] Speaker 2: night to release a raccoon in the same area where
[58:30] Speaker 2: I've had my experiences.
[58:32] Speaker 3: Her and her sister.
[58:33] Speaker 2: She told her sister because there's really not a lot
[58:35] Speaker 2: of places to get off the side of the road.
[58:37] Speaker 2: She said, you just dropped me off. Go down the
[58:39] Speaker 2: road and turn around and I'll release the raccoon and
[58:43] Speaker 2: you come back and get me. As soon as my
[58:46] Speaker 2: sister in law got out of sight, the flashlight went dead.
[58:51] Speaker 2: That flashlight has worked a thousand times. And she's in
[58:56] Speaker 2: the area where I had my experience by herself standing
[58:59] Speaker 2: there and just turn that raccoon in the flashlight. Dogs.
[59:03] Speaker 2: But she's a skeptic, so she said, oh, the battery
[59:06] Speaker 2: just died on it, right, Did it work when you
[59:09] Speaker 2: got home? You turned it on? She said, well, yeah,
[59:11] Speaker 2: it turned back on. I'm like, come on, yeah, I
[59:17] Speaker 2: totally get it.
[59:17] Speaker 1: Wow. So after that, would you so that situation you
[59:26] Speaker 1: were in with Harley, how has that affected you? Will
[59:29] Speaker 1: you go out after that? Or are you way more
[59:33] Speaker 1: cautious after experiencing that.
[59:36] Speaker 3: I have agreed to go back with him.
[59:39] Speaker 1: Well sure, yeah. In December he had said.
[59:41] Speaker 2: That I total him. I want at least one or
[59:43] Speaker 2: two more people to go with this. I don't want
[59:45] Speaker 2: to just be me and him. I don't feel like
[59:48] Speaker 2: most people feel like they have less aggressive interactions when
[59:52] Speaker 2: there's a group versus one or two people, right, So
[59:56] Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'll go back and trust me,
[59:58] Speaker 2: that's not an easy to say for me. I had
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: a long talk with my daughter recently and she's like,
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: why why do you feel the need to go out there?
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: You know the real You've had experiences. Why put yourself
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: in that situation? And I'm like, I don't know. There's
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: just things I can't describe how I feel inside knowing
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: I know the real. I know the real, that's not
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: even a question. But a piece of me wants that interaction.
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: A piece of me wants to have an interaction with them,
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: and another piece of means like, you're a freaking idiot.
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: Keep your butt at the house. So I don't know.
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: I mean, I've had some pretty weird experiences, you know.
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: I had another experience not too far from the house.
[1:00:56] Speaker 2: There's a spot that I go fish at across the
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: highway and I pull in and there's one car in
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: the parking lot. Didn't see anybody in the car.
[1:01:09] Speaker 3: I get out.
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: I have my nine millimeter with me. I put my
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: nine millimeter on my side. Like I said, I go armed.
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: As I shut the truck door, I hear that voice
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: in my head go if he gets out of that car,
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: you need to leave, you know. I look around, I'm like,
[1:01:28] Speaker 2: what guy, And I look back at that car. I
[1:01:31] Speaker 2: don't see anybody, and I'm like, man, that is so weird.
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: But when you go down this bank, it kind of
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: curves and then opens up at the lake, and if
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: you go out about seventy five yards, there's a little
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: goat path that just goes straight up. And people hardly
[1:01:48] Speaker 2: ever use that one because it's just straight up. So
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: i get to the bottom of the hill and I'm okay,
[1:01:54] Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to figure out what's going on here.
[1:01:57] Speaker 2: I hear a car door shut, and I'm a holy crap,
[1:02:01] Speaker 2: there was somebody in that car. And then I see
[1:02:04] Speaker 2: him coming. There's some big boulders there. They're gapped about
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: three feet apart to keep people from getting down in there.
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: I see this guy going between boulders and boulder headed
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: toward the walking path. So I'm like, okay, So I
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: go out the bottom, I hit the goat path as
[1:02:22] Speaker 2: he goes down the trail over here. I go up
[1:02:25] Speaker 2: the trail over here. I get to my truck and
[1:02:29] Speaker 2: I got a lock unlocked button. Right, I do the
[1:02:32] Speaker 2: typical white girl and the horror movie thing. I'm looking
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: that way. I hit the lock button, which makes the
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: horn blow.
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: Holy crap. But this whole I've got.
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: A gun, this whole Tom, I don't know why I'm
[1:02:48] Speaker 2: so afraid. And I get in the truck. I crank
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: the truck. As I'm pulling out to leave, he's standing
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: between the rocks where my truck was, and he's staring
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: at me.
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: Oh boy.
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: And I can't say that there was something wrong with
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: this guy. But he did not look natural. And was
[1:03:09] Speaker 2: I warned that this guy was a serial killer or
[1:03:12] Speaker 2: a demon or possessed or you know, a weirdo. I
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: don't know, but you know, like I said, I I
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: can't explain it. I'm not going to sit here and
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: say it was a divine intervention, you know, or what.
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: But I've only had that happen twice in my life
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: now that I've heard this voice tell me something. In
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: both times, I needed to leave. So and I've had
[1:03:43] Speaker 2: people say, well, do you feel like it was God
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: talking to you? It doesn't feel like God. You know,
[1:03:50] Speaker 2: I'm a Christian. I've been say, you know, God spoke
[1:03:54] Speaker 2: to me before I've heard God speak to me this.
[1:03:56] Speaker 3: This did not feel divine.
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: It was not the Holy Spirit. No, right, just you
[1:04:02] Speaker 1: know what that is? Yeah?
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I you know, I don't know, but you know,
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: it's it's been a wild It's really been a wild ride.
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: I went to the Tennessee wild Man Convention this year.
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: I meet so many good people, you know, and they
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: just they took me in.
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: Uh, I say when I'm I'm walking around my cowboy
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: hat and my patch best on. Some people think I'm
[1:04:28] Speaker 2: a biker or something. All my patches are like movies
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I'm you know, I'm not a
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: I'm not a biker person. But everybody just like, well,
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: who are you? I said, Oh, I'm hardly spreading. I'm nobody.
[1:04:42] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: They're like, no, you're somebody, come here, who are you?
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: That's awesome every day everybody.
[1:04:47] Speaker 2: Darryl Dentton, you know, I'm friends with Darryl nowkay. You know,
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: like I met M. K. Davis, Dude, I made a list.
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: I literally made a list here. I met so many
[1:05:00] Speaker 2: good people.
[1:05:01] Speaker 3: But flat Rock.
[1:05:02] Speaker 2: Flat Rock talked to me for a long time and
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: him compare photos and uh, I've in the past. I've
[1:05:09] Speaker 2: met Cliff Brackman, I've met Dave Polid's, I've met Bob
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: Gamblin hell Bent Holler, I've met Joe and Jesse and Lord,
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: you know all half the people from Woodwalkers and uh Lord,
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: I don't know Seth Breedlove from Small Town Monsters and
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: that through Eli Watson, I mete Eli and n and uh.
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: I just.
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: For as much as this this whole subject freaks me out,
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: I've also got a whole second I don't want to
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: say life, but the whole second set of of of
[1:05:51] Speaker 2: friends and discussions and some people that are way smarter
[1:05:56] Speaker 2: than me. You know, Coombo Kumbo's. I've watched his stuff online.
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: And I got to meet Koombo at the convention and
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: just such nice people, you know, They're so nice and
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: and and they just accepted me and like, no, come on,
[1:06:14] Speaker 2: you're you're hanging out with us today, you know. And
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: and they didn't know me from melbody and I'm that
[1:06:19] Speaker 2: weird tattoo guy with the patch best on, and they
[1:06:22] Speaker 2: just accepted me and brought me into their group. And
[1:06:26] Speaker 2: I branded a bunch of them on Facebook, and you know,
[1:06:32] Speaker 2: I just I just feel differently about that whole aspect
[1:06:35] Speaker 2: of it.
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, you're definitely you're in the right group
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: of people with this. Uh, there is definitely. Yeah, you're
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: you're in the right group. I'll say that much. But Robbie,
[1:06:50] Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on, for sharing what
[1:06:53] Speaker 1: you've experienced. I know that your your story is definitely
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: not done. I mean there's there's going to be other
[1:07:00] Speaker 1: stuff that you guys experience. I can guarantee that. But
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: you had when you signed up for this, you said
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: you are open. If people want to reach out to you,
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: they can find you on Facebook, is that right?
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: Facebook? They can message me on Messenger. You know, I've
[1:07:17] Speaker 2: set it on Harley's page. Not everybody has somebody to
[1:07:21] Speaker 2: talk to, you know, and not everybody's comfortable with with
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: a public forum. And I'm fine with that if I
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: can help one person. That's one of the reasons I
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: you know, Harley's like, just tell the truth, Robbie. You
[1:07:36] Speaker 2: know your it's your truth, and maybe somebody else out
[1:07:41] Speaker 2: there needs to hear your truth because they've had an
[1:07:44] Speaker 2: experience and then they don't know what to do with it.
[1:07:48] Speaker 2: I had a lady from California message me and she
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: had had a mind speak experience.
[1:07:54] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: So this I know, I chatty and I'm a talkative person,
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: but speaking about the mind speak thing is very difficult
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: for me because I know I'm going to be judged
[1:08:10] Speaker 2: for it.
[1:08:12] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: I have told some people in the past, and before
[1:08:15] Speaker 2: I was even out of earshot, I heard them start.
[1:08:17] Speaker 3: Laughing at me.
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: Oh, I say, yeah.
[1:08:23] Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I got to skin.
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: I'm still a human. It's still hurt a little bit,
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: you know. But since I came out with my stories,
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: and since i've I've been sharing my experiences, I've had
[1:08:35] Speaker 2: so many people come up to me that would have
[1:08:37] Speaker 2: never told anybody. I've had several preachers come up to
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: me and tell me about stuff that's happened to them,
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: and they don't feel comfortable with telling anybody else because
[1:08:49] Speaker 2: they don't want people thinking poorly or weird of them.
[1:08:52] Speaker 1: Wow.
[1:08:53] Speaker 3: I had a guy resent.
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: He watched a bigfoot hurdle a five foot fence from
[1:09:00] Speaker 2: his front porch. He said, I strung that fence that
[1:09:04] Speaker 2: was a five strand bob Ware fence, and he said
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: it went over it like it was nothing. He was
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: fishing out a pond, and one came out of the
[1:09:12] Speaker 2: woods and was pushing small trees over and making a
[1:09:16] Speaker 2: racket and scared the living life out of them. They
[1:09:19] Speaker 2: dropped their fishing gear and ran for their lives. Their's
[1:09:23] Speaker 2: story after story. I could stand here for another hour
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: just telling you stories that people have told me, or
[1:09:30] Speaker 2: stories that you know people have have shared on other
[1:09:34] Speaker 2: podcasts from this area. You know, multiple stories within a
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: five mile area of my house.
[1:09:42] Speaker 1: I would recommend to start writing all that down, the
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: stuff that is being told to you specifically, because that's
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: going to become very important in the future. And it's yeah,
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: that's that's awesome that you're becoming one of the guys
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: that people are talking to. But definitely make sure it's
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: documented outside of of just up in your head. Yeah,
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: Robbie has been. It has been awesome to talk to you.
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: I feel like we could probably have another great conversation
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: one day, and I hope we do. Hopefully our our
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: past cross somehow. But thank you so much for coming on,
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: for chatting about what you've experienced and uh, your experience
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: out there with Harley wild Stuff. But uh, but man, y'all,
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: we're going to keep in touch and I appreciate you
[1:10:33] Speaker 1: hanging out today, Robbie, Oh.
[1:10:35] Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
[1:10:36] Speaker 2: You know, we we need more people like you in
[1:10:38] Speaker 2: the community that you can feel safe talking to. You know,
[1:10:44] Speaker 2: no ridicule, no downplaying what's happened to people. You know,
[1:10:49] Speaker 2: it's it's important to have people like you in our community.
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: And I thank you for your for your platform.
[1:10:56] Speaker 1: Thank you. I do appreciate it. We'll keep in touch man,
[1:11:00] Speaker 1: all right, Before we wrap this episode, I want to
[1:11:05] Speaker 1: say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.
[1:11:08] Speaker 1: If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: if you've seen something that no one can explain, or
[1:11:15] Speaker 1: if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot
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[1:12:12] Speaker 1: then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
[1:12:21] Speaker 1: The world needs to hear what you've been forced to
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