# GRAVEYARD BIGFOOT TERRORIZES RESEARCHER IN DANIEL BOONE NATIONAL FOREST | ARCHIVES

An episode of [Bigfoot Society](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1453429066), 1 Jul 2026, 1 h 17 min.

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Originally released as Episode 532 of Bigfoot Society on 9/19/24. Spencer Jamison of Woodwalkerz joins Bigfoot Society to share the experiences that pulled him deep into some of the most active Bigfoot locations in America. What started as a simple curiosity led Spencer into the forests of Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, Virginia, and Alabama, where he encountered vocal responses, objects thrown from the darkness, massive trees pushed over, strange structures placed in remote camps, mysterious huffing sounds, and an encounter that left him sitting awake inside a tarp shelter for the rest of the night. Spencer details his first unforgettable expedition into Daniel Boone National Forest, activity around an isolated graveyard, unexplained events at remote campsites, investigations at Alabama's infamous Creepy Mountain, and eerie experiences at Hollins Hunting Camp. He also shares stories of recorded vocalizations, track discoveries, unusual lights, towering figures moving between trees, and why he believes the Appalachian Mountains remain one of the most active Bigfoot regions in North America. If you've ever wondered what keeps experienced outdoorsmen returning to the woods year after year in search of answers, this conversation delivers firsthand accounts from someone who has spent years chasing the mystery. Resources: Woodwalkerz Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@woodwalkerz Woodwalkerz Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/528388929479115 To hear the Bigfoot Outlaws podcast become a supporting member of the Bigfoot Crossroads podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootCrossroads Audacity free sound software: https://www.audacityteam.org Southern Bigfoot Files by Tal Branco - https://amzn.to/3XnDELs(Amazon Affiliate link) 📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect • Instagram: @bigfootsociety • Twitter: @bigfoot_society • TikTok: @bigfoot.society 🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: • Beam (Better Sleep): Try Beam • Wildgrain (Better Bread): Join Here • Seed (Probiotics): Get Seed • Medi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More • LMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT • Organic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS 🎙️ Podcasting Tools: • Repurpose.io: Try It • Descript: Sign Up • Streamyard: Start Recording • Riverside.fm: Try Riverside 🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You're listening to BIGFA Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
[0:03] Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
[0:05] Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
[0:08] Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
[0:12] Speaker 1: quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
[0:16] Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
[0:20] Speaker 2: These are the.
[0:21] Speaker 1: Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,
[0:24] Speaker 1: because today you'll hear another account that just might change
[0:28] Speaker 1: the way you see the woods forever.
[0:30] Speaker 2: So stay with us.
[0:31] Speaker 1: Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his
[0:34] Speaker 1: fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,
[0:38] Speaker 1: please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.
[0:42] Speaker 1: Thank you all right, BIGFT Society, You've got the privilege
[0:45] Speaker 1: of talking to Spencer Jamison today. He is an individual
[0:49] Speaker 1: from the Woodwalkers YouTube channel that's Woodwalkers with a Z.
[0:54] Speaker 1: At the end, I'll have the link in the show notes.
[0:57] Speaker 1: But it's one of the shows I like to listen
[0:59] Speaker 1: to most Sunday afternoons. Is when they are on and
[1:04] Speaker 1: they have some great conversations. I really enjoy but Spencer,
[1:07] Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the show today.
[1:11] Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for having me on, Jeremiah.
[1:13] Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, I would love to start. You know
[1:17] Speaker 1: where a lot of these interviews will start, is, Spencer,
[1:21] Speaker 1: what got you into the whole wild bigfoot game to
[1:25] Speaker 1: begin with?
[1:27] Speaker 3: Actually, it's kind of It's not like other people. Other people,
[1:31] Speaker 3: you know, they they had an encounter, they had some
[1:35] Speaker 3: kind of experience that was bigfoot related and it made
[1:38] Speaker 3: them start looking into it. And mine was nothing like that.
[1:45] Speaker 3: I I took and helped talk well a lot of things,
[1:52] Speaker 3: but the big thing was a wilderness survival. So so
[1:56] Speaker 3: I was often out in the woods with groups of
[1:58] Speaker 3: people doing wilderness survival. And that was years and years
[2:05] Speaker 3: and years of my life, along with you know the
[2:08] Speaker 3: average stuff, hunting, fishing, camping, everything. Well, let me see,
[2:12] Speaker 3: my oldest day is eleven now, and we homeschooled our kids,
[2:16] Speaker 3: so I guess it was ten years ago something like that.
[2:21] Speaker 3: Whenever they were just teeny tiny, they had YouTube on
[2:25] Speaker 3: and we paused YouTube or YouTube was still playing in
[2:29] Speaker 3: the background, and I was trying to start like a
[2:33] Speaker 3: preschool thing for the girls, and whenever they got done.
[2:41] Speaker 3: I actually can't remember exactly how it happened, if it
[2:44] Speaker 3: was right as we were starting or whenever they were
[2:45] Speaker 3: done with the little preschool lesson thing. I looked up
[2:49] Speaker 3: and there just happened to be a NK. Davis video playing,
[2:54] Speaker 3: and it was doing the breakdown of like the Patterson
[2:57] Speaker 3: Gimlin film, and it was showing some of the stuff.
[3:00] Speaker 3: It's like the humaitoba in the leg and like the
[3:03] Speaker 3: scapula movement and everything, and I just remember looking at it, like,
[3:08] Speaker 3: you know that that looks real to me. And I'd
[3:12] Speaker 3: never been closed minded the Bigfoot, but I had never
[3:15] Speaker 3: been I don't know, I just didn't really consider Bigfoot,
[3:21] Speaker 3: and I mean I was in the woods all the time,
[3:23] Speaker 3: and like you hear a lot of people say, and
[3:26] Speaker 3: I just I don't know. It kind of surprised me
[3:29] Speaker 3: whenever I was really and I had seen that video
[3:31] Speaker 3: when I was a little kid, but not like the
[3:33] Speaker 3: in depth analysis of it that mister Davis was on.
[3:39] Speaker 3: And then a couple of days go by and another
[3:44] Speaker 3: video comes on and it was a big Foot Outlaws video,
[3:48] Speaker 3: and I guess it was just that thing where YouTube
[3:51] Speaker 3: plays videos that are similar to other stuff that you
[3:55] Speaker 3: watched before and I saw a few minutes of that,
[3:58] Speaker 3: and then later you know, was more suggested on there
[4:01] Speaker 3: and I started watching them and then kind it kind
[4:05] Speaker 3: of just got in my head that man, if these
[4:07] Speaker 3: things real, there should be something out there that I
[4:10] Speaker 3: should be able to find. I mean, I've you know,
[4:12] Speaker 3: I'm not a good tracker, but I've got you know,
[4:15] Speaker 3: tracker training and all kinds of stuff like that. And
[4:19] Speaker 3: he went out in the woods and next thing I know,
[4:22] Speaker 3: I'm finding possible uh stick manipulation and structures and stuff
[4:27] Speaker 3: like that. And a little while later found what I
[4:33] Speaker 3: thought was my first track, And you know, then I'm
[4:36] Speaker 3: really like, I just don't know what is going on.
[4:39] Speaker 3: So I started reaching out to people on YouTube and
[4:41] Speaker 3: every Facebook and everything off of YouTube shows that I
[4:46] Speaker 3: was watching, and eventually I got in contact with a
[4:49] Speaker 3: couple of people and I got invited to an outing
[4:53] Speaker 3: and it was a really private thing. It was a
[4:55] Speaker 3: Bigfoot outlaws outing and I guess I was only outside
[5:01] Speaker 3: person there and they did calls, I heard replies, trees
[5:08] Speaker 3: got pushed over all kinds of crazy stuff, and uh,
[5:12] Speaker 3: I mean that was my first time actually really experiencing
[5:18] Speaker 3: the stuff firsthand. And I just whenever I left from
[5:23] Speaker 3: that alley, I knew. I mean I didn't see one,
[5:27] Speaker 3: but we had a lot of stuff happened, especially at
[5:29] Speaker 3: that graveyard. Stuff got thrown at us branches, broke growls
[5:35] Speaker 3: or distant distant screams and everything. And I left that
[5:40] Speaker 3: and I just I knew. I was convinced that they
[5:44] Speaker 3: existed and been doing it ever since.
[5:47] Speaker 1: Wow, that that is incredible. So you it sounds like
[5:50] Speaker 1: you were big footing in a graveyard somewhere.
[5:54] Speaker 3: Well, we were in Daniel Boone Nashville forest and I
[6:00] Speaker 3: got you know, whenever I got invited to this thing,
[6:05] Speaker 3: I was super excited because the big Foot Outlaws is
[6:08] Speaker 3: kind of like I guess everybody has to kind of
[6:11] Speaker 3: pick their their tour guide whenever you get into this stuff.
[6:16] Speaker 3: And at that point, that was like the show that
[6:21] Speaker 3: I watched quite heavily. Uh, and I'd seen every single
[6:26] Speaker 3: one of the episodes that were available on YouTube, and uh,
[6:30] Speaker 3: I was reaching out to members of that of of
[6:33] Speaker 3: the big Foot Outlaws, and uh, when I got invited,
[6:37] Speaker 3: you know, it's about a it's about a six hour
[6:39] Speaker 3: ride from my place to where the meeting was, and
[6:45] Speaker 3: I was so gung ho to go. And then as
[6:47] Speaker 3: I'm getting closer and closer, especially within an hour or so,
[6:50] Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, in my head, I'm like, are
[6:53] Speaker 3: you insane? Because I had never met I never met
[6:56] Speaker 3: anybody in the bigfoot world. I don't I don't come
[6:59] Speaker 3: from the big foot world. I come from a very regular,
[7:02] Speaker 3: just hunting, fishing, camping kind of world. And as I'm
[7:07] Speaker 3: getting closer and closer, I'm like, here, I am going
[7:10] Speaker 3: to you know, Kentucky to go look for Bigfoot with
[7:15] Speaker 3: a bunch of people that I just met online and
[7:17] Speaker 3: I've never met him in person. I don't know anything
[7:19] Speaker 3: about him. And I tell you what though, that that
[7:25] Speaker 3: right there was such a lucky chance of fate for me.
[7:30] Speaker 3: I met some of the greatest people in the world
[7:32] Speaker 3: that I'm still friends with, and in the bigfoot world
[7:36] Speaker 3: in general, I've met people in the past whatever it's
[7:40] Speaker 3: been seven eight years that I just consider family at
[7:45] Speaker 3: this point. And I mean, so much stuff happened at
[7:50] Speaker 3: that one particular, my very first unitual experience with all
[7:56] Speaker 3: this stuff. So much stuff happened, and it was it
[8:00] Speaker 3: was no doubt in my mind conclusive what it was
[8:04] Speaker 3: and what was doing it. But yeah, that's how it
[8:08] Speaker 3: kicked off in them right there at the end. There
[8:12] Speaker 3: are a lot of graveyards, old old graveyards that are
[8:17] Speaker 3: they're not really well manicured or taken care of, but
[8:20] Speaker 3: that they have signs. And I'm sure for a lot
[8:22] Speaker 3: of people that have been to daniel Bon, especially the
[8:27] Speaker 3: lower end of daniel Bon in the southern point of it,
[8:31] Speaker 3: they know exactly what I'm talking about. But there are
[8:33] Speaker 3: many graveyards up there. And to be honest, when they
[8:38] Speaker 3: took me up in that graveyard, the way that it
[8:41] Speaker 3: actually went was that night. That was the second night
[8:45] Speaker 3: that I was there. I was with most of the
[8:50] Speaker 3: people that were camping there, but not all of them
[8:53] Speaker 3: as far as the meet and Greek kind of thing went.
[8:57] Speaker 3: And they went out and did calls. That was my
[9:02] Speaker 3: first time experiencing that. I didn't know anything about the
[9:05] Speaker 3: calls or how they did them or how it would work.
[9:08] Speaker 3: They went out and did some calls and they ended
[9:11] Speaker 3: up getting a replied vocal on the second call I
[9:14] Speaker 3: think it was, and it was it was pretty far off.
[9:18] Speaker 3: And I'm not I'm not an expert on all types
[9:24] Speaker 3: of wildlife, but you know, I'm a I'm from North
[9:28] Speaker 3: Carolina and lived in Virginia for a long time now.
[9:32] Speaker 3: But I mean I'm fairly familiar with animal sounds, and
[9:36] Speaker 3: whenever I heard it, it was pretty plain to me
[9:39] Speaker 3: that you know, that was a booker. I mean, it wasn't.
[9:43] Speaker 3: It wasn't a coyo that I will say. And we
[9:47] Speaker 3: can talk about this later, but there is no doubt
[9:52] Speaker 3: whenever you hear it in person, and audio doesn't do
[9:56] Speaker 3: it justice. Audio doesn't capture it, it doesn't train slate
[10:00] Speaker 3: it the right way. You can look at it on
[10:02] Speaker 3: a spectrograph and you can kind of get a feel
[10:04] Speaker 3: for it. But when you hear vocalizations in person, they're impressive.
[10:10] Speaker 3: And I mean, if you've got any woodsiness to you
[10:14] Speaker 3: add on your huge to animals, you can very easily
[10:19] Speaker 3: make a kind of a quick decision stay. I I
[10:23] Speaker 3: don't think that was you know, a regular animal known
[10:28] Speaker 3: you know species right in that area, an indigenous species.
[10:31] Speaker 3: But they went out and they did calls. We got
[10:35] Speaker 3: a reply. It was far away. It was impressive to
[10:39] Speaker 3: me because I never heard it before. I think we
[10:43] Speaker 3: stopped at one more spot after that they did calls.
[10:46] Speaker 3: I don't remember getting a reply there, and then they said,
[10:52] Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna stop at this one graveyard. And
[10:56] Speaker 3: I'm riding in the car with like four of them,
[10:58] Speaker 3: and we've got several vehicles. There's you know, handful of
[11:02] Speaker 3: a scoring and uh, as soon as they said that,
[11:05] Speaker 3: I just in my head, I was like, man, they
[11:07] Speaker 3: are trying to haze me or initiate me, or they
[11:11] Speaker 3: think I'm gonna be creeped out because We're going to
[11:14] Speaker 3: a cemetery. And I'd heard other people say on some
[11:18] Speaker 3: of these YouTube shows about like boogers. I refer to
[11:21] Speaker 3: Bigfoot as boogers, y'all, just so everybody knows. But uh,
[11:26] Speaker 3: I've heard other people say bookers like cemeteries everything. But
[11:30] Speaker 3: in my head, I was like that, you know, there's
[11:32] Speaker 3: no way anything's going to happen just because it's cemetery.
[11:35] Speaker 3: And uh, we parked at the bottom of the hill.
[11:38] Speaker 3: We walk up this road to the cemetery and not long,
[11:42] Speaker 3: maybe a couple hundred yards, and we get up there
[11:46] Speaker 3: and everybody gets quiet, and they've got cameras going and
[11:51] Speaker 3: recorders going, night vision thermals, all that kind of stuff,
[11:56] Speaker 3: and uh, one of the one of the guys there
[12:00] Speaker 3: who I'm friends with, now I didn't know him then,
[12:04] Speaker 3: but he did a call and a couple minutes later,
[12:10] Speaker 3: I think it started with a distant yell, but I
[12:16] Speaker 3: can't swear to that. I'd have to go back and
[12:18] Speaker 3: listen to the audio to remember exact detail. But he
[12:22] Speaker 3: did a call, and then I think there was a distant,
[12:27] Speaker 3: possible vocal. And then this is the freaking part. This
[12:34] Speaker 3: is the part here that I knew something was going on,
[12:39] Speaker 3: and I knew it wasn't them. It was almost like
[12:45] Speaker 3: a switch got hit and it's like you could feel
[12:51] Speaker 3: static electricity in there. You could feel a presence. Things
[12:57] Speaker 3: got quiet, like even the bugs they didn't they didn't
[13:01] Speaker 3: go dead, completely quiet, but everything it was like a
[13:05] Speaker 3: cloud came over that whole spot. I mean you could
[13:09] Speaker 3: tangibly feel it. It was weird. Something that thrown. It
[13:15] Speaker 3: hit the ground. I think it was probably a branch,
[13:19] Speaker 3: but we were standing there in darkness. I don't think
[13:21] Speaker 3: anybody really saw it. But it hit the gravel, the
[13:24] Speaker 3: gravel road that we had walked up, and we all
[13:29] Speaker 3: kind of, you know, it turned and looked. I jumped
[13:32] Speaker 3: at that because just the feeling and everything so much
[13:35] Speaker 3: was going on, you know, it made me jump, and
[13:41] Speaker 3: then something got thrown from the other side, and I've
[13:44] Speaker 3: got people like Debbie James going, did you hear that?
[13:47] Speaker 3: Did you see it? Did you see where it landed?
[13:49] Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I don't know what's going on
[13:51] Speaker 3: because I expected this whole thing to be a joke
[13:54] Speaker 3: and it kind of caught me off guarde and then
[13:58] Speaker 3: a rather large branch gat broke or a small tree
[14:03] Speaker 3: GAT push down, and then there was another growl or
[14:09] Speaker 3: scream that was get team closer. It's possible that the
[14:17] Speaker 3: third thing got thrown. I cannot quite remember, but after
[14:26] Speaker 3: about five minutes that you know, maybe maybe this whole
[14:31] Speaker 3: thing took five minutes to happen. I'm standing there just
[14:35] Speaker 3: like just like, I don't know. I wasn't freaking out,
[14:39] Speaker 3: but I was just kind of in awe and waiting
[14:44] Speaker 3: to see if anything else was going to happen. And
[14:49] Speaker 3: when it ended, whatever was there, that presence, that stag electricity,
[14:57] Speaker 3: that that cloud, that feeling. It's it's very hard to describe,
[15:02] Speaker 3: but it's a very certain thing. You can one thousand
[15:05] Speaker 3: percent tell something is happening. When it left, it's like
[15:12] Speaker 3: it hit a switch and everything went back to normal.
[15:16] Speaker 3: You could feel it leave. And that was the second night.
[15:22] Speaker 3: And then and then we did have some stuff happened
[15:24] Speaker 3: on the third day and the third ninth, but that
[15:26] Speaker 3: was the second night, and after that I was I
[15:30] Speaker 3: was one on it because whatever I had just felt,
[15:35] Speaker 3: I'd never experienced that before, and I mean, I knew
[15:38] Speaker 3: there was something to.
[15:39] Speaker 1: It, So that was it sounds like that was the experience.
[15:46] Speaker 1: Then that pretty much pushed you. There is no coming
[15:51] Speaker 1: back to how Spencer was before that. I mean, yeah,
[15:54] Speaker 1: that's that's the turning point. And I totally get that
[15:59] Speaker 1: because that was that was Oregon in this summer.
[16:02] Speaker 3: For me, it.
[16:04] Speaker 1: After coming back from that, I was not the same person.
[16:06] Speaker 1: It's very hard to explain, but you you get changed somehow,
[16:12] Speaker 1: and uh, just it's all different. Just the way that
[16:15] Speaker 1: you look at everything regarding this subject is totally different.
[16:20] Speaker 2: Hmm. It's weird. It's weird.
[16:24] Speaker 1: Spencer, I'm still working through it.
[16:27] Speaker 2: After that.
[16:28] Speaker 1: Did you did you regularly go out and start researching
[16:31] Speaker 1: for Bigfoot after that experience.
[16:33] Speaker 3: Or yes, I had been before. Now the way that
[16:39] Speaker 3: the way that I do it, in the way that
[16:41] Speaker 3: a lot of my friends and I do it, is
[16:44] Speaker 3: we we have areas where we're at. I'm in southwestern Virginia.
[16:49] Speaker 3: I have managed to find a handful of spots around me,
[16:53] Speaker 3: uh that have activity, but it's it's it's not active
[17:00] Speaker 3: like what I find in LBL Laying Between Lakes, or
[17:05] Speaker 3: North Georgia or Alabama. I've been concentrating a lot on
[17:08] Speaker 3: Alabama for the past couple of years. But we all
[17:11] Speaker 3: have areas around us that we go out and that
[17:14] Speaker 3: we actively monitor. You know, a lot of us we'll
[17:23] Speaker 3: go privately camping every couple of months, you know, and
[17:26] Speaker 3: look for sign everything like that. I've got spots that
[17:30] Speaker 3: I go to and I'm a big person that always
[17:33] Speaker 3: checks for like tracks and possible stick structure and manipulation,
[17:39] Speaker 3: and sometimes I'll do gifting and go check and see
[17:42] Speaker 3: if anything is changed with that. I'm also in those
[17:46] Speaker 3: areas because I'm dropping off and picking up recorders fairly often.
[17:52] Speaker 3: But a lot of us do stuff like that. But
[17:54] Speaker 3: then we also get together several times a year to
[17:58] Speaker 3: go to certain places. And I'm not talking about the
[18:00] Speaker 3: meeting groups that we do. I'm talking about getting together
[18:04] Speaker 3: privately as just a handful of us and actually going
[18:07] Speaker 3: there and camping and going further in the woods and
[18:10] Speaker 3: looking for stuff like that, you know. But yeah, after
[18:15] Speaker 3: that happened, I was hooked and started going out with
[18:20] Speaker 3: some of the friends I had made quite regularly after that.
[18:23] Speaker 1: So you, I mean Southwest Virginia over to Alabama. That's
[18:27] Speaker 1: quite a trip. That's got to be more than a
[18:29] Speaker 1: few hours.
[18:31] Speaker 3: It's about it's about eight and a half for where
[18:33] Speaker 3: I normally go, but LBL is almost ten for me,
[18:37] Speaker 3: and I go to LBL pretty much once a year.
[18:40] Speaker 3: I've been there more than once a year, but almost
[18:43] Speaker 3: once a year I go to LBL and make a
[18:45] Speaker 3: pilgrimage there. There's a lot of driving.
[18:47] Speaker 1: Involved, absolutely, and that's just one way. I mean, that's
[18:52] Speaker 1: pretty wild. So you are going to some pretty intense places.
[18:56] Speaker 1: Are there any things that come to mind that you
[18:58] Speaker 1: could share about, Like you're in this one place and
[19:00] Speaker 1: just it got pretty pretty intense when you're out there.
[19:06] Speaker 3: Well, let me go back and touch on what happened
[19:08] Speaker 3: at the end of Daniel Big the first time I
[19:10] Speaker 3: met everybody on Night three. On Night three, at this point, uh,
[19:18] Speaker 3: you could do you could do a three or four
[19:20] Speaker 3: hour show and you could have multiple people on here
[19:23] Speaker 3: talking about their experiences that were that were there at
[19:28] Speaker 3: the same time that I was there. Uh. But but
[19:31] Speaker 3: during that trip down there, on night one, uh, there
[19:37] Speaker 3: were at least one or two fairly large trees pushed
[19:42] Speaker 3: over right outside the campground that we were staying at.
[19:46] Speaker 3: We were just primitive camping, but uh, smallow campground and
[19:50] Speaker 3: creek running through it, and there were there were trees
[19:52] Speaker 3: pushing now and uh, day two, the night of the
[19:57] Speaker 3: campground or of the graveyard thing. But day two, we
[20:01] Speaker 3: had found a rock in the middle of the pathway
[20:07] Speaker 3: that we had walked down that I don't think it
[20:10] Speaker 3: was there before and possibly got a rock thrown at us.
[20:14] Speaker 3: And the other group that we were out there hiking
[20:16] Speaker 3: with they had a giant clod of mud come flying
[20:20] Speaker 3: through the air and it hit a tree right above
[20:22] Speaker 3: them and busted up, and they thought it was us
[20:26] Speaker 3: messing with them, and we thought the rock that was
[20:28] Speaker 3: thrown at us could have possibly been them. So I mean,
[20:32] Speaker 3: I mean there was stuff going on. There were several
[20:35] Speaker 3: several trees broken, there were vocalizations heard, all that kind
[20:40] Speaker 3: of stuff. I don't remember anybody finding tracks. I think
[20:45] Speaker 3: it's possible that one or two people caught glimpses of
[20:48] Speaker 3: eye shine, or maybe even saw one in a ditch
[20:51] Speaker 3: off the side of the road, like as we were
[20:53] Speaker 3: driving by. But on nine three, I had leave the
[20:58] Speaker 3: next morning, and I got to tell you so much.
[21:01] Speaker 3: It happened in such a small timeframe. Uh, I was wired.
[21:09] Speaker 3: I was I was nervous. I knew it was real,
[21:12] Speaker 3: and I, you know, I had just experienced the graveyard thing.
[21:16] Speaker 3: I knew it was real, and I knew there was
[21:18] Speaker 3: something out there. And Larry Porch is a good friend
[21:21] Speaker 3: of mine. He and Debbie Jones. They wanted to take
[21:24] Speaker 3: me up on a ridge away from camp and let's
[21:28] Speaker 3: just him at camp or just you know, spend the
[21:30] Speaker 3: night on the ground on this ridge on the hillside
[21:34] Speaker 3: in the woods. And uh, there's some there are some
[21:37] Speaker 3: funny recordings of this. We did a pretty good job
[21:41] Speaker 3: documenting all this. We had a lot of audio from it.
[21:43] Speaker 3: But there's a recording of this. Whenever we get up there,
[21:48] Speaker 3: I don't know, it's probably midnight, one in the morning,
[21:51] Speaker 3: something like that, probably closer to midnight. And a tree
[21:55] Speaker 3: gets pushed over again and Larry starts laughing, and I'm like,
[22:02] Speaker 3: you're insane, and he's like yeah, ain't it great? And
[22:05] Speaker 3: Debbie Port she doesn't care. She's fearless, Sisters of the Moon.
[22:09] Speaker 3: Debbie Port's Sisters of the Moon. But she goes to sleep,
[22:14] Speaker 3: and Larry and I are sitting up talking, and I
[22:17] Speaker 3: gotta be honest with you. I didn't want to go
[22:18] Speaker 3: to sleep. I was a little concerned. I was a
[22:21] Speaker 3: little concerned, a little nervous. I'm new to it, and
[22:24] Speaker 3: I'm definitely not going to sleep if I think there's
[22:27] Speaker 3: a monster right outside, you know. And we're just sitting
[22:30] Speaker 3: there around the fire, and several times weird stuff that
[22:36] Speaker 3: could have been, like rocks being proven. But at the
[22:38] Speaker 3: same time, I'm going, couldn't that be just like white
[22:42] Speaker 3: walnuts or something. Larry's you know, he's he's talking to me,
[22:46] Speaker 3: and he's going, yeah, I couldn't be. And like I said,
[22:51] Speaker 3: the tree get I pushed out. And then right before
[22:54] Speaker 3: I don't know if it was right before sunrise, but
[22:57] Speaker 3: about five in the morning, a cargoes by on the
[23:01] Speaker 3: road and we can see its headlights because we're at
[23:03] Speaker 3: an elevated position, we can see it. And it goes
[23:06] Speaker 3: by about three hundred guards. Wait maybe, and right as
[23:11] Speaker 3: it's going by, the curve right by us. As it
[23:14] Speaker 3: gets close to us, a knock goes off from right
[23:20] Speaker 3: behind us, I mean probably forty fifty yards a win
[23:22] Speaker 3: and it's loud. I jumped. It did scare me and
[23:28] Speaker 3: I said a few choice words and I told that
[23:31] Speaker 3: was not and he's like yeah. I was like, they
[23:34] Speaker 3: are here and he's like yeah, they've probably been here
[23:37] Speaker 3: all night, just sitting here with us, watching us, and
[23:40] Speaker 3: it just it left a distinct impression on it. So
[23:45] Speaker 3: in the years to come. In the next few years
[23:49] Speaker 3: following that, for other people that I met there, I
[23:55] Speaker 3: stayed in close contact with. We went to LBO a lot,
[23:58] Speaker 3: but we also continued to go back to Danielbeem. But
[24:02] Speaker 3: when we went back, we would go further in the
[24:05] Speaker 3: woods and not to a campground just in the middle
[24:08] Speaker 3: of the woods. And they had a spot that they
[24:11] Speaker 3: had found back there and I was lucky enough to
[24:14] Speaker 3: get invited to that. And you asked about some of
[24:18] Speaker 3: the stuff that was scary, Well, in Daniel Bloom, this
[24:23] Speaker 3: was one of the scarier things that happened to me.
[24:27] Speaker 3: And it's probably not going to sound that thrilling to
[24:29] Speaker 3: everybody else. I mean, I wish I could tell everybody
[24:33] Speaker 3: a great, great class a encounter, but that's not what
[24:37] Speaker 3: it is. We're back there and I'm with very real
[24:42] Speaker 3: people in the big Foot world that know their stuff.
[24:46] Speaker 3: They've been doing this a long time. They've got a
[24:48] Speaker 3: lot of experience. I don't want to do a whole
[24:50] Speaker 3: lot of name dropping, but they're very recognizable, known people
[24:54] Speaker 3: in the big Foot world. And the very first, now
[25:01] Speaker 3: I take it back, it was the second time we
[25:03] Speaker 3: were out there at this place. When we got there,
[25:08] Speaker 3: there was a tree. And when I say a tree,
[25:11] Speaker 3: I mean it was about six inch diameter, probably something
[25:15] Speaker 3: like a poplar, but most of the auxiliary branches had
[25:20] Speaker 3: been ripped off of it. It was about thirty foot long,
[25:23] Speaker 3: maybe thirty five foot long, and it was placed horizontally
[25:31] Speaker 3: above the little stone fire pit area that we had established,
[25:37] Speaker 3: that they had established and then I'd been there before,
[25:40] Speaker 3: but the fire pit, the firing stems, there was a
[25:45] Speaker 3: tree placed horizontally in two other trees, and it was
[25:48] Speaker 3: above this firing And whenever we got in there, you
[25:52] Speaker 3: know where we parked that went in there and we
[25:54] Speaker 3: saw this thing. We're all looking at it like, yeah,
[25:57] Speaker 3: that's you know, I don't know anybody that would just
[26:02] Speaker 3: go out in the middle of the woods and strip
[26:06] Speaker 3: a tree down and place it, you know, suspended in
[26:10] Speaker 3: two other trees. There. Somebody's fir ring just in the
[26:14] Speaker 3: middle of the woods. So that was the first thing
[26:17] Speaker 3: that we saw when we got into camps that time,
[26:19] Speaker 3: and I'm looking at it. I'm like, wow, you know,
[26:22] Speaker 3: that's definitely something. I mean, they probably know we're here. Well,
[26:29] Speaker 3: the last night that we were there on that trip,
[26:33] Speaker 3: we had done a couple of calls and I don't
[26:37] Speaker 3: think we got any huge responses. One of my friends
[26:42] Speaker 3: had told me about using an EMP or a RF
[26:47] Speaker 3: meter rather RF meter. Chris ryan Hart told me about it,
[26:51] Speaker 3: and so I had an RF meter. It was my
[26:53] Speaker 3: first time using it, and whenever we did a we
[26:58] Speaker 3: did a callse Just one minute later, the RF meter
[27:01] Speaker 3: spiked and I mean alarm went off because the the
[27:10] Speaker 3: I think it was set on radio waves is what
[27:12] Speaker 3: went off. But it went off to such a high
[27:15] Speaker 3: degree it spiked and I'm sitting there holding it, I'm
[27:19] Speaker 3: looking at it. I'm like, I don't know, maybe you know,
[27:21] Speaker 3: maybe something's right here near us. It wasn't very much
[27:25] Speaker 3: later we went to bed and I had fashioned a
[27:30] Speaker 3: part tent tent made out of the park and I'm
[27:35] Speaker 3: inside that tarp and I got the recorder sitting right
[27:40] Speaker 3: at the fold where the door is. The audio recorder
[27:43] Speaker 3: is right there, about one foot away from my head.
[27:46] Speaker 3: Because it started raining a little bit and I wanted
[27:49] Speaker 3: to get super soaked. But something woke me up at
[27:56] Speaker 3: about two thirty three AM. Something woke me up. I
[28:00] Speaker 3: wasn't sure what it was. And as I'm laying there
[28:03] Speaker 3: trying to go back to sleep, I hear something hit
[28:08] Speaker 3: the tarp's it's like a pebble, like a rock. And
[28:15] Speaker 3: I'm laying there and I'm listening. I don't hear anything
[28:18] Speaker 3: that I hear crunch, crunch, like something took a step.
[28:26] Speaker 3: Now I'm awake and I'm paying attention. And another couple
[28:29] Speaker 3: of minutes go by and something else hits the tark
[28:34] Speaker 3: kind of like a little pebble. And then a couple
[28:36] Speaker 3: months later, cruch crunch. Now I've got five or six
[28:42] Speaker 3: people that are sleeping and they're not very far away
[28:46] Speaker 3: from me, but the but they're out there and I'm
[28:49] Speaker 3: in this tarp and I'm on the edge, you know,
[28:51] Speaker 3: right up against the woods, and in my mind. I'm listening. Now,
[28:57] Speaker 3: I'm like, this thing is, i mean close, something's out there,
[29:02] Speaker 3: and I'm trying to be logical. I'm like, it's that somebody.
[29:05] Speaker 3: You know, somebody woke up and they're out there and
[29:07] Speaker 3: they're using the bathroom or you know, shifting around, walking
[29:12] Speaker 3: through camp or whatever. But it's the same routine. It
[29:15] Speaker 3: keeps happening. It's it's a pebble hits my tart and
[29:19] Speaker 3: then a couple of steps and eventually this thing is
[29:25] Speaker 3: getting close. I'm wide awake and I'm I'm getting nervous.
[29:31] Speaker 3: I'm getting scared because in my head, I'm like, that's
[29:35] Speaker 3: a booger and it's right here on me, and I'm
[29:40] Speaker 3: just expecting something to reach under the dart and grab
[29:45] Speaker 3: me and snatch me and pulled me out of there. Now,
[29:47] Speaker 3: that didn't happen. But on what did happen was it
[29:50] Speaker 3: got close. There was several minutes where I didn't hear
[29:56] Speaker 3: any noise, and I'm waiting for it to get closer again,
[29:59] Speaker 3: and then something it either either a branch hit my
[30:05] Speaker 3: tarp or another rock or it slapped the side of
[30:09] Speaker 3: my tarp right by my feet. And man, let me
[30:13] Speaker 3: tell you, I couldn't think whether or not I should
[30:20] Speaker 3: just like flee. I didn't think at all, but I
[30:23] Speaker 3: kind of yelled and sat up and almost busted out
[30:26] Speaker 3: of the tarp. But I didn't because I didn't want
[30:28] Speaker 3: to go outside, because I thought there was something outside.
[30:31] Speaker 3: I never heard anything leave. Of course, I made a
[30:35] Speaker 3: lot of ruckus and a lot of noise whenever I
[30:37] Speaker 3: did that. I never heard anything leave or runaway. But
[30:41] Speaker 3: after ten fifteen minutes later, you know, I'm still sitting
[30:46] Speaker 3: there and I'm scared now. And there was you know,
[30:50] Speaker 3: there was nothing there. Nothing happened. It's like these things
[30:55] Speaker 3: really really know how to mess with you and intimidate you.
[31:00] Speaker 3: And who's I mean. I never got to look at it,
[31:02] Speaker 3: so I can't even one say that that was a booger.
[31:07] Speaker 3: I got the audio from it. In the audio, you
[31:09] Speaker 3: can hear the pebbles hit in the head. You can
[31:12] Speaker 3: you can hear the steps if you really enhance the volume. Uh.
[31:17] Speaker 3: But it shook me up, you know, because I know
[31:20] Speaker 3: what happened, and what happened was something that was coming
[31:22] Speaker 3: closer and then it smacked the part, and it bothered
[31:26] Speaker 3: me and scared me.
[31:29] Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have slept the rest
[31:31] Speaker 1: of that night. That's that's pretty intense.
[31:33] Speaker 3: Spent the rest of the nudge. Yeah, I didn't sleep
[31:39] Speaker 3: the rest.
[31:39] Speaker 1: Of the nun But I think what is even more
[31:43] Speaker 1: crazy is the RF meter being affected. So can you
[31:49] Speaker 1: explain it maybe a little bit of what's the thinking
[31:54] Speaker 1: of the the connection between r F meter and what
[31:58] Speaker 1: is maybe happening in the background, and why would so
[32:01] Speaker 1: why would you even have one to begin with?
[32:03] Speaker 3: There? It's this gets into areas and this is a
[32:10] Speaker 3: lot of stuff that we that we uh we talk
[32:13] Speaker 3: about on my show and a lot of the people
[32:15] Speaker 3: that I'm friends with that have shows and everything, we
[32:18] Speaker 3: kind of do deep guys going. I don't want to
[32:22] Speaker 3: say wo and negative wind. I don't want to find
[32:24] Speaker 3: anybody by the WOO thing. And I also don't want
[32:27] Speaker 3: people to think that we are strictly flesh and blood.
[32:32] Speaker 3: I think I would phrase it more long lines of uh,
[32:36] Speaker 3: we're open to anything. We're big proponents of there are
[32:41] Speaker 3: no experts in this field, and you know everything. You
[32:46] Speaker 3: have to treat this subject open mindy. On the trip,
[32:49] Speaker 3: I was just talking about when the RF meter spiked
[32:53] Speaker 3: during the day we had gone out and gone for
[32:55] Speaker 3: a day hike, and just like always, everybody makes sure
[33:00] Speaker 3: you got you know, we're stopping and putting in fresh
[33:02] Speaker 3: batteries in the action cameras, in the recorders, in the
[33:08] Speaker 3: you know, video recorders, the thermals, all the stuff, right,
[33:12] Speaker 3: And that was my first time, that exact same event
[33:17] Speaker 3: right there. That was my first time having battery drainage.
[33:21] Speaker 3: And it wasn't just me, it was three or four
[33:24] Speaker 3: of us had battery draine and weird anomalies like that.
[33:30] Speaker 3: But you get to a point when you do at
[33:35] Speaker 3: least the areas that we've been going and the stuff
[33:38] Speaker 3: that we've experienced. I guess I won't speak for everybody else.
[33:41] Speaker 3: I'll just speak for myself, but it gets to a
[33:44] Speaker 3: point where you stop thinking that these things are behaving
[33:51] Speaker 3: like a typical, just regular biological, flesh and blood creature.
[33:57] Speaker 3: It's there's something else going on. So to your question
[34:02] Speaker 3: with the meter, Chris, Ryan hard and Bed told by
[34:09] Speaker 3: somebody else to look into the RF meter. At least
[34:12] Speaker 3: I think that's how it goes. If not, Chris, don't
[34:14] Speaker 3: kill me, but he suggested that I try. Now, bear
[34:20] Speaker 3: in mind, the piece of equipment was new to me.
[34:22] Speaker 3: I had only gotten it a couple of weeks before
[34:24] Speaker 3: went on this trip. Didn't have much time to really
[34:27] Speaker 3: play with it and everything. But we'round in the middle
[34:29] Speaker 3: of the woods. I mean, I know the basics of
[34:31] Speaker 3: the thing, and I guess the line of thought on
[34:35] Speaker 3: it is much like infrasound. Is it possible that these
[34:39] Speaker 3: things are creating either electromagnetic fields, Are they giving off microwaves?
[34:50] Speaker 3: Are they messing with r F fields? We're not sure,
[34:56] Speaker 3: but several people have claimed to have had some impressive
[35:02] Speaker 3: results with the RF meter, So we had it out there.
[35:05] Speaker 3: Now it just so happened that it went off that
[35:07] Speaker 3: it spiked that night. A lot of people talk about, hey,
[35:11] Speaker 3: it'll spike whenever they get really close to you and
[35:13] Speaker 3: they're throwing rocks at you and growl, and then it'll
[35:15] Speaker 3: go off. We didn't have an in that. It just
[35:18] Speaker 3: went off on our alarm, and then later on that
[35:21] Speaker 3: night something approached my part. Now, I mean, having said
[35:25] Speaker 3: that I've had the RF meter for years, I use
[35:28] Speaker 3: it on occasion. I've not had a whole whole lot
[35:34] Speaker 3: of luck with it. But you know, maybe the times
[35:37] Speaker 3: that I did use it, they just they weren't there
[35:40] Speaker 3: or maybe they're not emitting or giving off whatever is
[35:47] Speaker 3: required to set the RF meter off. I don't really
[35:51] Speaker 3: know that we like trying different things. There's some stuff
[35:55] Speaker 3: that I can't really talk about like that that a
[35:59] Speaker 3: that a handful of a US do because we're still
[36:01] Speaker 3: trying it to kind of weigh and measure and it's
[36:05] Speaker 3: not it's not mine to share with everybody. But some
[36:10] Speaker 3: of the people that I hang out with are doing
[36:12] Speaker 3: really really impressive and unique experiments with different things that
[36:18] Speaker 3: you wouldn't typically think of, and they're going out and
[36:22] Speaker 3: employing it and seeing what results they I mean, some
[36:25] Speaker 3: of the stuff, as you know, from what I've been told,
[36:29] Speaker 3: sounds pretty interesting, but I'm more of a meat and
[36:33] Speaker 3: potatoes kind of researcher. I like the modern technology aspect
[36:39] Speaker 3: of it, but I don't geek out on all the
[36:43] Speaker 3: technological stuff. I do think that they're doing something I
[36:48] Speaker 3: think me personally, I think that they're flesh and blood.
[36:51] Speaker 3: I just think that they have a skill set and
[36:54] Speaker 3: they're able to manipulate energy in a way that we
[36:57] Speaker 3: don't understand.
[36:59] Speaker 2: And I think right there with you, man, I think.
[37:01] Speaker 3: They's directly into why you have a really hard time
[37:05] Speaker 3: capturing them on game cameras. Uh. Some people be able
[37:09] Speaker 3: or some people claim to be able to you know,
[37:15] Speaker 3: see them with their naked eye, but can't capture them
[37:18] Speaker 3: with a camera. Some people see them with a camera
[37:22] Speaker 3: on their phone, but they didn't see them while they
[37:25] Speaker 3: were there looking at them in person. You know, they
[37:29] Speaker 3: didn't see them with their naked eye, but they managed
[37:32] Speaker 3: to capture a video of it. And I'm not saying
[37:35] Speaker 3: that all of that stuff out there that's put out there,
[37:38] Speaker 3: especially on Facebook and YouTube, I'm not saying that all
[37:41] Speaker 3: of that stuff is legitimate, but safe say that probably
[37:46] Speaker 3: some of it is. And I just don't think these
[37:49] Speaker 3: things operate. I know they don't operate in a normal
[37:54] Speaker 3: physical way like like I expect them to. Uh, they
[37:59] Speaker 3: got weird stuff to them. They can do weird stuff.
[38:01] Speaker 3: And I mean some of the stuff I've seen, especially
[38:04] Speaker 3: in Alabama on Creepy Mountain, some of the stuff I've
[38:08] Speaker 3: seen down there that'll make you change your line of
[38:10] Speaker 3: though on some of this stuff.
[38:13] Speaker 1: Oh, I agree, I'm starting to learn there's stuff it
[38:18] Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. But I want to call out something
[38:19] Speaker 1: real quick, just so about five minutes ago. Well, first
[38:25] Speaker 1: I want to ask you don't have any type of
[38:27] Speaker 1: voice modulator on your phone, right, nothing weird like that.
[38:30] Speaker 2: Okay, so it was really weird.
[38:33] Speaker 1: You probably didn't hear it, but about five minutes ago
[38:35] Speaker 1: when you were talking about weird stuff happening with tech, Yep,
[38:41] Speaker 1: your voice did something weird I've never heard on the
[38:44] Speaker 1: phone before where it's like kind of like robot voice.
[38:50] Speaker 1: It is just it got really weird. So, I mean,
[38:52] Speaker 1: stuff like that kind of happens. But yeah, you know
[38:54] Speaker 1: tech gets weird. The RF meter thing. I might actually
[39:00] Speaker 1: try that myself. It's an interesting line of thought, and
[39:04] Speaker 1: who knows what they might have associated with him, And
[39:08] Speaker 1: I don't know if that would even you know, there's
[39:10] Speaker 1: been bigfooters that have had weird health things happen, and
[39:14] Speaker 1: maybe that's because of exposure, you know, And yes, it
[39:18] Speaker 1: really makes you think, right, I don't.
[39:21] Speaker 3: Know that that is one hundred percent something that we
[39:25] Speaker 3: have talked about and that we pay attention to. Uh,
[39:31] Speaker 3: there's only one time that I can think of where
[39:34] Speaker 3: I ever might have been zapped within for Sam. But
[39:39] Speaker 3: it's there is no doubt with the people that I
[39:43] Speaker 3: hang out with on a regular basis, and I mean
[39:45] Speaker 3: I trust them implicitly. These are these are good people,
[39:49] Speaker 3: and they're experienced people and there they're big name people
[39:53] Speaker 3: and some of the stuff that they've told me is
[39:56] Speaker 3: you know completely, it's just it's really impressive and and
[40:00] Speaker 3: I believe them, and I think that along with that, infrasound,
[40:06] Speaker 3: I mean, you have to consider that if they are
[40:09] Speaker 3: using infrasound. Infrasound is measurable. It just takes quite sophisticated
[40:15] Speaker 3: equipment to measure it. And you know, it's not like
[40:19] Speaker 3: we're running around the woods with million dollar government text
[40:22] Speaker 3: stuff to be able to measure this kind of thing.
[40:25] Speaker 3: So the whole infrasound thing, you know, we charted up
[40:28] Speaker 3: as a possibility, but it's a high probability that they
[40:33] Speaker 3: are using something like infrasound and infrasound itself. If you
[40:38] Speaker 3: look at the physical disruptions of what infrasound does, I mean,
[40:43] Speaker 3: it'll you know, it'll joggle your organs and your brain
[40:47] Speaker 3: and everything. It's easy to assume that it could cause
[40:53] Speaker 3: health issues if you get zapped enough times. If they're
[40:56] Speaker 3: doing infrasound, and I think the RF meter plays into
[41:00] Speaker 3: that because we're not quite sure how to you know,
[41:04] Speaker 3: we're looking for some piece of technology that will give
[41:08] Speaker 3: us an edge to knowing that they're there. And uh,
[41:12] Speaker 3: it's hard because these things are really good at getting
[41:15] Speaker 3: close to you without you knowing that they're there.
[41:17] Speaker 1: Spencer, that's so smart. I've never thought of that, And
[41:20] Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. What we need is we need the
[41:23] Speaker 1: one device, the silver bullet, that tells us one hundred percent,
[41:29] Speaker 1: no doubt that yes, they are in that area. That's
[41:33] Speaker 1: that's what you need, right.
[41:38] Speaker 3: You know, Jeremiah, two years ago, three years ago, I
[41:41] Speaker 3: would have been like yes, and that was the time
[41:43] Speaker 3: whenever all this stuff was happening with my with my
[41:47] Speaker 3: stuff in the big foot world. But I got to admit, man,
[41:51] Speaker 3: it's just listening to so many people, especially people that
[41:57] Speaker 3: I that I really do trust and belief, listening to
[42:01] Speaker 3: so many of them nowadays make connections with stuff like
[42:07] Speaker 3: Nefhlahim or Nephlaham however you want to say it, but
[42:13] Speaker 3: stuff like that, it's just I've gotten to a point
[42:15] Speaker 3: where I'm honestly thinking like, I don't know. I mean,
[42:20] Speaker 3: maybe there is no maybe we don't have any leg
[42:24] Speaker 3: up and there's no way that we would ever know
[42:27] Speaker 3: anything unless they want us to know it. I don't know.
[42:30] Speaker 3: I mean, I know that gets out there into the
[42:34] Speaker 3: kind of hooky range where you're it sounds like you're
[42:39] Speaker 3: trying to come up with excuses to to rationalize why
[42:43] Speaker 3: you're not getting the hardcore evidence. But I mean we've
[42:48] Speaker 3: collected hardcore evidence. I mean, we've collected whole track with
[42:51] Speaker 3: Whenever I say we, I guess I wasn't there on
[42:54] Speaker 3: the I was not there on the big outing where
[42:57] Speaker 3: they collected the major track way at LBL. But I
[43:00] Speaker 3: found track ways at LBL, And we've found stuff in Georgia.
[43:04] Speaker 3: We found stuff all over the place. We just don't
[43:06] Speaker 3: typically publish everything that we find. Just like I do
[43:10] Speaker 3: all kinds of little experiments in my area, and I
[43:13] Speaker 3: end up talking to a lot of people that give
[43:15] Speaker 3: me ideas. It's not like I'm super smart and coming
[43:19] Speaker 3: up with the stuff on myself. A lot of times
[43:21] Speaker 3: I got help from everybody else, and I'm trying to
[43:24] Speaker 3: different things out on my own, and I find really
[43:26] Speaker 3: impressive evidence, but you know, that's physical evidence. And you
[43:32] Speaker 3: can only find a track so many times and still
[43:34] Speaker 3: be impressed with it, or you can only find stick
[43:36] Speaker 3: structure so many times. Before you want to see something else.
[43:40] Speaker 3: And this goes into my major major argument in the
[43:46] Speaker 3: bigfoot world. On my show, and with a lot of
[43:50] Speaker 3: the people that I know, we're all kind of the same.
[43:53] Speaker 3: I don't really care about the shows where it's a
[43:58] Speaker 3: great physical description of bigfoot. One of my friends told
[44:05] Speaker 3: me one time, he's like one could be hit by
[44:07] Speaker 3: a semi and be laying in the middle of the
[44:09] Speaker 3: road and one hundred people stop, and you're looking at it,
[44:12] Speaker 3: you're poking it with stick, you're taking pictures of it.
[44:15] Speaker 3: You can see its hair, you can see exactly what
[44:18] Speaker 3: it looks like. You know it's it's it's eight foot
[44:20] Speaker 3: four inches long, and it's four and a half hot
[44:22] Speaker 3: vide and it's two foot thick, and it's got longer
[44:26] Speaker 3: hair on its lower arms and on the on the
[44:30] Speaker 3: on its head, and it's sparse on its chest. You
[44:33] Speaker 3: still would not know what they are exactly, how they operate. Uh,
[44:41] Speaker 3: do they speak a language? What are they saying? You know?
[44:45] Speaker 3: Are they alien? Are they Nefhlehem? You wouldn't know how
[44:48] Speaker 3: they hunt. You wouldn't know how they do the things
[44:50] Speaker 3: that they do. You wouldn't know how they travel or
[44:53] Speaker 3: how they pick the locations for where they're going to
[44:58] Speaker 3: make this if they do make new or what the
[45:01] Speaker 3: stick structure means. So the average shows out there are
[45:07] Speaker 3: really into giving people entertainment and there's nothing wrong with
[45:11] Speaker 3: that and describing exactly what these things look like. It's
[45:14] Speaker 3: a curiosity thing. Everybody wants to hear the really detailed accounts.
[45:18] Speaker 3: Whenever somebody has a class AI witness account, everybody wants
[45:22] Speaker 3: to hear that. I'm not faulting that, but I'm saying
[45:26] Speaker 3: that a lot of us are concentrating more on how
[45:31] Speaker 3: are they doing what they're doing and what are they
[45:35] Speaker 3: how do they do what they do? And I'm not
[45:38] Speaker 3: suggesting that we have any super duper answers that other
[45:42] Speaker 3: people don't. We have some stuff and some of the stuff,
[45:46] Speaker 3: you know, we kind of keep it off the radar
[45:49] Speaker 3: while we test it and check it and see what
[45:51] Speaker 3: results we get. But we treat the subject very seriously,
[45:56] Speaker 3: but we don't take ourselves very seriously. If that means
[45:59] Speaker 3: it absolutely.
[46:01] Speaker 2: I love that that is. It's a very cool combination.
[46:04] Speaker 1: It's not one you find a lot, but I think
[46:07] Speaker 1: it's it's important. One of the main reasons Spencer that
[46:10] Speaker 1: I had you on the show tonight is I had
[46:15] Speaker 1: heard about a place called Creepy Mountain down in Alabama,
[46:19] Speaker 1: and I reached out to I want it might have
[46:21] Speaker 1: been Roger from Squatch and Holler, and if it's not,
[46:24] Speaker 1: apologies Roger, but I think I reached out to him.
[46:27] Speaker 1: I was like, who do who should I talk to
[46:29] Speaker 1: about Creepy Mountain? I think you mentioned your name, So
[46:34] Speaker 1: this place sounds wild and it sounds like you know
[46:38] Speaker 1: some some interesting things about it. Anything you can share
[46:42] Speaker 1: about it would be really cool.
[46:44] Speaker 3: I think I will say that mister Mark Green, who
[46:50] Speaker 3: the great friend of mine, is Creepy Mountain. So mister
[46:58] Speaker 3: Mark Green, who is a good friend of mine, he
[47:01] Speaker 3: is the guy. What happened was Mark had a personal
[47:07] Speaker 3: class day bigfoot sighting in Alabama. While he was hunting.
[47:14] Speaker 3: He had a friend that he hunted with a lot.
[47:19] Speaker 3: They somehow got in contact with a really famous he's
[47:25] Speaker 3: past now but Bill White tal Branco, and they started
[47:32] Speaker 3: talking to mister White, and mister White came there and
[47:38] Speaker 3: did a couple of things and said, yeah, you know,
[47:41] Speaker 3: you guys got boogers here, which they had already They
[47:45] Speaker 3: had already kind of figured that out because after Mark
[47:47] Speaker 3: had his sighting, they started paying attention. Mark was big
[47:51] Speaker 3: into coop hunting and running deer dogs and they would
[47:56] Speaker 3: go up on Creepy Mountain to hunt. So anyway, they
[48:00] Speaker 3: figured out that there were boogers there. They for years
[48:05] Speaker 3: years hardcore research. Creepy Mountain and other areas around Creepy
[48:12] Speaker 3: Mountain became a place that was known to have big
[48:15] Speaker 3: for the activity in there. Whenever I reached out to
[48:22] Speaker 3: Mark Uh, I just wanted to pick his brain and
[48:27] Speaker 3: compare notes because here I had been going to North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky,
[48:34] Speaker 3: and North Georgia, and I knew that Alabama was supposedly
[48:39] Speaker 3: a hot zone. A lot of people think that, you know,
[48:42] Speaker 3: the really hot zones are like Florida and Oregon and
[48:46] Speaker 3: Washington State. I promise you Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama
[48:54] Speaker 3: is absolutely loaded with bookers and not just boogers, but
[48:59] Speaker 3: I believe with other strange, possibly supernatural things. But it's
[49:07] Speaker 3: Alabama is by far the bootiest state, if that's even work,
[49:13] Speaker 3: that I've ever been to. So we had the chance
[49:17] Speaker 3: to go to Creepy Mountain for the very first time.
[49:22] Speaker 3: It was supposed to be just a handful of us.
[49:25] Speaker 3: Was supposed to be about four or five of us
[49:27] Speaker 3: ended up being twelve or thirteen because the word got
[49:32] Speaker 3: around and we ended up having like a little wilding there.
[49:36] Speaker 3: And the very first time I was there a creepy mountain,
[49:43] Speaker 3: we saw white lights kind of like somebody click in
[49:47] Speaker 3: a very bright flashlight off and on. But there were
[49:52] Speaker 3: I don't know ten twelve of them across this lake
[49:57] Speaker 3: from us, and the lake was not very white. We
[50:00] Speaker 3: were camping on We were cooking out and camping right
[50:02] Speaker 3: there on the edge of the lake, and there was
[50:04] Speaker 3: a hillside on the other of the lake away from us,
[50:09] Speaker 3: and it was probably I don't know, two hundred yards
[50:13] Speaker 3: something like that, but we could see these white lights
[50:17] Speaker 3: randomly flashing, I mean just for a millisecond, and they
[50:22] Speaker 3: would move one will be down here regards toly to
[50:27] Speaker 3: the right or whatever. We saw that we saw shadow
[50:36] Speaker 3: I don't want to say shadow figures. It could have
[50:39] Speaker 3: very well been boogers, it probably was, but it was
[50:45] Speaker 3: shadows of something that were about eight foot tall, and
[50:51] Speaker 3: they moved in between two trees that were about ten
[50:54] Speaker 3: foot twelve foot apart, and they moved quick as a blink.
[50:59] Speaker 3: I mean just slowly, just from one tree to the next.
[51:02] Speaker 3: And they went back and forth a couple of times.
[51:06] Speaker 3: We heard the typical owls that sound like they weigh
[51:09] Speaker 3: about five hundred pounds. Uh, you know, we just had
[51:15] Speaker 3: We went out and did balls. Later, we got a
[51:17] Speaker 3: we captured a couple on recording, a couple of decent
[51:23] Speaker 3: apply vocals. They were a good distance away from us
[51:26] Speaker 3: when they replied their faint, but they're there. You can
[51:28] Speaker 3: clearly see them on the spectrograph. But Creepy Mountain is
[51:32] Speaker 3: up to his name. It's creepy. I've been there a
[51:35] Speaker 3: few times now.
[51:37] Speaker 1: And I'm guessing if like someone tries to search Creepy
[51:41] Speaker 1: Mountain on Google Maps, you're not going to find it.
[51:46] Speaker 3: That is it's that's not the name of it. It
[51:50] Speaker 3: is private property. It's gated and you have to have
[51:53] Speaker 3: access to go up in there. Wow. But luckily we're
[51:58] Speaker 3: having a we're having a meet and Greek here in
[52:00] Speaker 3: October that is not too far away from there. In
[52:04] Speaker 3: the place that we're having the meet and greet at
[52:06] Speaker 3: also has a sordid history of bigfoot activity. And you
[52:12] Speaker 3: know it's it's it's not that one specific place though,
[52:17] Speaker 3: it's all of Alabama. I'm telling you, mister Cumbo Baker,
[52:22] Speaker 3: who I've been to his property and we had activity there.
[52:26] Speaker 3: That's in the northern part of Alabama. My good buddy
[52:30] Speaker 3: Greg House that's on the show with me all the time.
[52:33] Speaker 3: He's a little bit further south than Cumbo. Then you
[52:36] Speaker 3: hit Mark Green's kind of out in the middle of
[52:38] Speaker 3: the state. And then mister flat Rock flat Rock Wood Booger,
[52:45] Speaker 3: he's a little bit further south than Mark Green. The
[52:49] Speaker 3: whole state. I just had a guy on the show
[52:52] Speaker 3: not that long ago, Jac Bryant, heck of a good show, really,
[52:56] Speaker 3: and he's in Alabama. There's a bunch of people in
[53:00] Speaker 3: Alabama that will attest to the amount of activity that
[53:03] Speaker 3: they have down there. And it's just that state for
[53:07] Speaker 3: whatever reason. Uh just I've they're everywhere they seem to be.
[53:13] Speaker 3: They seem to be everywhere in that state.
[53:15] Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. I mean I've got some really wild reports.
[53:20] Speaker 1: I mean from places you know as well Bankhead and
[53:24] Speaker 1: Talladay Game. Have you ever been down to Holland's hunting camp? Yes, okay,
[53:34] Speaker 1: is that a thing you can talk about?
[53:38] Speaker 3: Well, well, you put me on the spot here Jerema.
[53:41] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you don't, if you can't, don't
[53:44] Speaker 1: worry about it.
[53:44] Speaker 2: We can move on.
[53:45] Speaker 3: But yes, yes, I've been there once. Uh, And I
[53:50] Speaker 3: wanted to see it specifically for certain reasons that a
[53:57] Speaker 3: lot of my friends have told me about. And I
[53:59] Speaker 3: never seen it. And the last time I was at
[54:02] Speaker 3: Creepy Mountain, Mark was Mark Green was kind enough to
[54:06] Speaker 3: take me over there, and there's a road that runs
[54:10] Speaker 3: through the hunting camp. And I said, I'm gonna walk
[54:16] Speaker 3: down this road real quick. And there was four of
[54:19] Speaker 3: us there, four of us standing there at the trucks
[54:23] Speaker 3: talking at the Hollands hunter camp. And I said, I'm
[54:27] Speaker 3: gonna walk down this road and they said okay. And
[54:30] Speaker 3: I go about one hundred yards. There's a little hill
[54:32] Speaker 3: you go up and then you go on the other
[54:34] Speaker 3: side of the hill, and whenever you do you drop
[54:36] Speaker 3: down here, you're out of line of sight from anybody
[54:39] Speaker 3: that could see you if they were looking down the road.
[54:41] Speaker 3: And I go down there, and I probably went not
[54:45] Speaker 3: very far, three hundred yards or so, maybe a little
[54:48] Speaker 3: bit further, and I distinctly got the feeling that you
[54:52] Speaker 3: hear everybody talk about that you feel like you're being watched,
[54:56] Speaker 3: or that there's something there. And I did a very
[55:02] Speaker 3: low whoop whoop, and nothing happened. I stood there for
[55:10] Speaker 3: a minute. I turned around started walking back. I had
[55:12] Speaker 3: my phone on. I recorded with my video with my phone,
[55:17] Speaker 3: and as I'm walking back, I heard huh off to
[55:24] Speaker 3: the side of me, probably I don't know, a good
[55:27] Speaker 3: far enough into the woods where I couldn't see it.
[55:30] Speaker 3: And it was just a light kind of grunt hoof,
[55:34] Speaker 3: whoof like that. And I paused, and on the video,
[55:39] Speaker 3: I say, did you hear that? I'm who I was
[55:42] Speaker 3: talking to. I was talking to myself or if anybody
[55:44] Speaker 3: saw the video ever again and I walked another fifteen
[55:49] Speaker 3: twenty feet and got it again and I said, there
[55:54] Speaker 3: it is again in the video. And then I could
[55:57] Speaker 3: you know I come back. I come back to the truck,
[55:59] Speaker 3: said did it? Three times? I come back to the trucks.
[56:01] Speaker 3: I'm like, guys, you are not gonna believe this. All
[56:04] Speaker 3: I did was walk down this road. I mean this
[56:07] Speaker 3: broad daylight in the middle of the day. But I
[56:10] Speaker 3: was back far enough where no one could see. And yeah,
[56:16] Speaker 3: and I told them about it. Whenever I got home,
[56:18] Speaker 3: I pulled the video up, which my computer does not
[56:22] Speaker 3: like to talk to my iPhone, But eventually I got
[56:26] Speaker 3: it pulled up and I edited the video and was
[56:30] Speaker 3: really trying to hone in on the audio part of it,
[56:33] Speaker 3: and I stripped the audio and looked that on the
[56:35] Speaker 3: spectrograph and you can see it, but I have to
[56:39] Speaker 3: enhance the audio so much. It's kind of distorted. It's
[56:45] Speaker 3: not really worth showing. And even in person, it was
[56:50] Speaker 3: not very loud, but it was distinct, and it was distinguishable,
[56:56] Speaker 3: and it's there. It's just you really have to stream
[57:00] Speaker 3: to hear it. So for that reason, I didn't, you know,
[57:03] Speaker 3: show it on my show or show it to anybody
[57:06] Speaker 3: other than a couple of friends. But yeah, whenever we
[57:10] Speaker 3: left there, I was like, Okay, this this place is hot.
[57:13] Speaker 3: They're here. And then of course I know the other
[57:15] Speaker 3: stories about that place, the story about the campers or
[57:19] Speaker 3: the hunter supposedly being found, you know, dead at the
[57:25] Speaker 3: bottom of his hunting stamp. And there's been camp sites
[57:29] Speaker 3: a band in there, but that's common, that's common for Alabama.
[57:34] Speaker 3: At Greg House's location, they found a band in camp sites.
[57:42] Speaker 3: I mean, it's that's a common thing in Alabama. Alabama
[57:45] Speaker 3: has loved.
[57:46] Speaker 2: It that area as well.
[57:47] Speaker 1: I know Roger had a really interesting thing happened there
[57:50] Speaker 1: where he had he captured some audio. And then a
[57:54] Speaker 1: gentleman I had on the show a few years ago
[57:57] Speaker 1: he was referring to the same story you were referring to.
[57:59] Speaker 1: But I guess the hunter was found and he was
[58:04] Speaker 1: I mean, he was kind of pulled apart a bit,
[58:07] Speaker 1: I mean, not like totally like, yeah, it was pretty uh,
[58:13] Speaker 1: pretty interesting, I believe.
[58:17] Speaker 3: If I'm not getting the details wrong in that story. Now,
[58:20] Speaker 3: I don't know one thousand percent if that is completely accurate,
[58:26] Speaker 3: but I know that there were I know that there
[58:28] Speaker 3: were people that plane to have seen someone produce the
[58:33] Speaker 3: police file for that, and I believe, I believe that
[58:37] Speaker 3: the guy had his neck broken to the point where
[58:42] Speaker 3: his head was twisted backwards and at least one of
[58:45] Speaker 3: his arms was tore off. I believe that's the that's
[58:50] Speaker 3: the account of that. I can't swear to the validity
[58:53] Speaker 3: of it, but I'm pretty sure that's the story about it.
[58:58] Speaker 1: Have you run into I mean, I know you've been
[59:02] Speaker 1: in all these different states and done a ton of
[59:06] Speaker 1: research over the years. A weird thing that I find
[59:10] Speaker 1: is that there's these reports of different animals with like
[59:16] Speaker 1: their necks broken that are sometimes do you get that too?
[59:21] Speaker 3: Not nearly, not nearly as much, at least not reports
[59:25] Speaker 3: in my area now. I do hear through the rumor
[59:30] Speaker 3: mill and through people that don't want to come out
[59:34] Speaker 3: and talk publicly about it. I do hear a lot
[59:37] Speaker 3: of reports of animals with leggs being snapped and broken cleanly,
[59:45] Speaker 3: especially deering coyote rear legs being broken or torn off.
[59:50] Speaker 3: That's a fairly common thing. As a young couple that
[59:53] Speaker 3: I spoke to on the phone that's not very far
[59:56] Speaker 3: from me, and they had both a many donkey and
[1:00:03] Speaker 3: a pony uh go missing, And I want to say,
[1:00:09] Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna get this backwards, but I want to
[1:00:11] Speaker 3: say that it was the pony that uh the guts
[1:00:16] Speaker 3: were missing from. Its neck was broken where it was
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: turned backwards, and I want to say, like maybe its
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: back was broken or its rear legs were torn off.
[1:00:27] Speaker 3: But the donkey, the donkey had a hole the size
[1:00:35] Speaker 3: of a cannonball punched through its chest and through its
[1:00:43] Speaker 3: you know, uh tail hole underneath the tail, almost like
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: something stuck an arm all the way through the mini
[1:00:52] Speaker 3: donkey and I got the Oh, I got the pictures
[1:00:56] Speaker 3: of it, and it's yeah, it's her lend us And
[1:01:01] Speaker 3: I mean if if they're faking that, there's some really
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: sick people. But uh, I mean the pictures are real.
[1:01:08] Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of that. That's not
[1:01:10] Speaker 3: commonplace in like my day to day experiences in the
[1:01:15] Speaker 3: bigfoot world, but I do think it does happen. Hmmm.
[1:01:21] Speaker 1: That uh yeah, that's that's a lot to take in
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: right there. That's that's probably one of the worst worst
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: things I've heard. Yeah, it's you know, it'll be interesting.
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: I hope we get to the point, hopefully within the
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: next thirty years, where we get some really solid answers.
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: It's something that explains like what these things are, why
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: they do the things that they do. And it sounds
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: like that's really what your group is trying to focus on,
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: which is is very cool.
[1:01:57] Speaker 3: Well, thank you. Uh yeah, we're trying to focus more
[1:02:01] Speaker 3: on the on the answer thing. I mean, we try
[1:02:05] Speaker 3: to go out there and just experience it, but we're
[1:02:07] Speaker 3: also trying to take everybody along for the ride. So
[1:02:10] Speaker 3: we are trying to document, you know, as much as
[1:02:13] Speaker 3: we can. We are not you know, we're just a
[1:02:17] Speaker 3: bunch of Southerners. We're not doing super high tech, scientific
[1:02:22] Speaker 3: y data research and collecting everything with tweezers and nitrate
[1:02:28] Speaker 3: gloves and all that kind of stuff. But we're very
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: open about we do a We do a lot. Everybody
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: that I'm associated with does a lot of live video.
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: We do a lot of meat and greets and try
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: to take people to these places so that they can
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: experience it. And we've we've had a pretty lucky record
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: so far. Our meet and greet at LBL, there was
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: quite a few people that had stuff happen. They either
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: heard vocals or had glimpses of stuff like ash one
[1:03:01] Speaker 3: person I'm not going to say who. He can talk
[1:03:03] Speaker 3: about it if he wants to, but I mean, i
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: think he had a full on class A and I'm
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: not sure if it was a dog man or if
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: it was a booker. But you know, we've had a
[1:03:18] Speaker 3: good track record so far with that. We just try
[1:03:21] Speaker 3: to be open and honest about what we're seeing. And
[1:03:24] Speaker 3: I promise you this. I mean, I'm as shocked as
[1:03:26] Speaker 3: anybody whenever stuff does happen and goes off. But then again,
[1:03:30] Speaker 3: we've got the benefit of we're talking to people that
[1:03:35] Speaker 3: we're lucky, we're fortunate that they're willing to share with us,
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, if you go to this area,
[1:03:41] Speaker 3: and then we kind of weigh and measure what they
[1:03:43] Speaker 3: say and you know, kind of vett it and then
[1:03:47] Speaker 3: you know, if we go to the area, a lot
[1:03:49] Speaker 3: of times there's more than just one or two of
[1:03:51] Speaker 3: us that are there to witness or experience whatever, and
[1:03:55] Speaker 3: we just shared. We share the information. We have people
[1:03:58] Speaker 3: on our show and I think are credible and the
[1:04:02] Speaker 3: real deal and everything. And I mean, so far, our
[1:04:05] Speaker 3: show's doing pretty good. I don't know how you get
[1:04:07] Speaker 3: all the guests that you do, Jeremiah, but yeah, we've
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: we've hit a lucky streak with just having experiences and
[1:04:16] Speaker 3: sharing all the stuff with everybody, and we're just trying
[1:04:20] Speaker 3: to be real about the subject.
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:04:24] Speaker 1: I mean, so I just so I don't get a
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: ton of email us about this. Can you explain how people,
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: if they want to be involved with the meet and greets,
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: how they get the info about that, how they get
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: hooked up with being able to go and different things
[1:04:40] Speaker 1: like that.
[1:04:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the way it started, I'll be brief. The
[1:04:47] Speaker 3: way it started is you know, there are all these
[1:04:49] Speaker 3: people going to conventions, Bigfoot, Bigfoot conventions, seminars. I got
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: nothing against anybody going out there doing their thing and
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: having speak and uh, you know, charging emission or anything
[1:05:03] Speaker 3: like that. But we're sitting here on a gold mine
[1:05:06] Speaker 3: of areas to go to that that have real potential
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: for people to have experiences. And some of them are public,
[1:05:16] Speaker 3: so it's not like it's not like super secret private things.
[1:05:21] Speaker 3: And I'm like, we should, uh, you know, we should
[1:05:25] Speaker 3: do stuff where we're inviting more people because everybody are
[1:05:29] Speaker 3: going to these everybody is going to these seminars. You know,
[1:05:33] Speaker 3: let's just have a free meet and greet in an
[1:05:36] Speaker 3: area we happen to know a lot of people that
[1:05:40] Speaker 3: are well known in the big foot world. I was like, they,
[1:05:42] Speaker 3: you know, will invite them, they can come, they can
[1:05:45] Speaker 3: talk kind of like one of the conventions or seminars,
[1:05:49] Speaker 3: and we do raffles and stuff, you know, and give
[1:05:52] Speaker 3: away things and we cook and have a good time,
[1:05:55] Speaker 3: and we're in areas that have a lot of activity.
[1:06:00] Speaker 3: So you know, we've had we've had successful with that.
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: But the way that they find out about it is
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: number one, first and foremost you would have to watch
[1:06:10] Speaker 3: our show Woodwalkers on YouTube on Sundays. You would have
[1:06:15] Speaker 3: to watch that to keep up with all the changing details.
[1:06:19] Speaker 3: But if you want to jump on the Facebook page,
[1:06:22] Speaker 3: or if you want to email us and the email
[1:06:25] Speaker 3: is just wood Walkers with a Z on the end
[1:06:28] Speaker 3: at five or five one one at gmail dot com,
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: you can email us, or you can jump on the
[1:06:36] Speaker 3: Facebook page and we have a link on the Facebook
[1:06:38] Speaker 3: page to the upcoming meet and greet which is the
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: first weekend in October fourth, fifth, and sixth, and it
[1:06:46] Speaker 3: will be in Alabama in the Talladega National Forest.
[1:06:53] Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome. The LBL one.
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: I believe that that was you guys, the LBL one, Right, Yeah,
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: that one sounded like it was a really cool time
[1:07:03] Speaker 1: and you had some people there that. I mean, you
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been able to meet those people anywhere else.
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: And I know there's at least one guy. I think
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: David came all the way out from Oregon for that.
[1:07:16] Speaker 2: I want to say. So there's people coming from all
[1:07:19] Speaker 2: over and flowing.
[1:07:21] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we have people from California and Texas. We
[1:07:24] Speaker 3: had about we had about one hundred and twenty five
[1:07:26] Speaker 3: people there. We had again I don't want to name drop,
[1:07:30] Speaker 3: but we had quite a few well known people and
[1:07:35] Speaker 3: they took turns speaking. And then of course we all
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: camped and hung out and ate. And it wasn't really
[1:07:44] Speaker 3: so much about the Bigfoot thing as it was literally
[1:07:47] Speaker 3: everybody just meeting each other and getting to know everyone
[1:07:52] Speaker 3: on a personal basis. And also I should stress it
[1:07:56] Speaker 3: wasn't about people meeting us. It was about us getting
[1:07:59] Speaker 3: to meet everybody that we see in the chats and
[1:08:03] Speaker 3: everybody that we've been talking to on Facebook. And because
[1:08:07] Speaker 3: the Bigfoot community, I mean, you can love it or
[1:08:11] Speaker 3: hate it. Sometimes it is a double edged sword. But
[1:08:15] Speaker 3: if you're lucky enough like I am, I'm telling you
[1:08:17] Speaker 3: it's one of the best things I've done is become
[1:08:21] Speaker 3: a part of the Bigfoot community, because I've met some
[1:08:25] Speaker 3: of absolutely the best people that would just you know,
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: take the shirt off their back to help me and
[1:08:34] Speaker 3: would do it for anybody. I mean, just great, great people,
[1:08:38] Speaker 3: and I'm telling you they're good folks. We have a
[1:08:41] Speaker 3: good time. It's a really friendly, easy going kind of atmosphere,
[1:08:46] Speaker 3: and we're in an area where you know the chances
[1:08:49] Speaker 3: of something happening, you know, nobody can guarantee that something's
[1:08:53] Speaker 3: going to happen. But we're We're not going at a
[1:08:56] Speaker 3: conference in a hotel room, you know, So to me,
[1:09:02] Speaker 3: it's a better plan. And we like going that. We
[1:09:05] Speaker 3: like going out and camping and looking for boogers anyway,
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: so this is already what we do. We just make
[1:09:11] Speaker 3: it so that other people can come.
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: I love it. It's so cool.
[1:09:15] Speaker 1: It's such a cool idea, and it's it's way different
[1:09:17] Speaker 1: when you're able to just hang out in real life
[1:09:21] Speaker 1: with people that you know, you talk to online, but
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: you actually get to meet them. It's super cool and
[1:09:26] Speaker 1: it sounds like you know, it's it's a group of
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: people that are good people. Yeah, I mean I've heard
[1:09:33] Speaker 1: I've heard great things about it. So hopefully maybe one
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: day I'll be able to make it down to one
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: of them.
[1:09:38] Speaker 2: That would be cool. We'll see, But.
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Spencer, it has been such a pleasure chatting
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: with you, and definitely, you know, people need to make
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: sure that they go over to the Woodwalker's channel and
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: those guys are so much fun to watch on Sunday.
[1:09:56] Speaker 2: I love it.
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: But did you have any other clothes? Using thoughts before
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: we head out of the show Spencer.
[1:10:07] Speaker 3: The only other thing I would say is I do
[1:10:10] Speaker 3: a lot of documenting experiences and sightings that people have,
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: and I don't just pull stuff off of like other
[1:10:23] Speaker 3: websites that that that had it broken down into state
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: by state and all that kind of stuff. And these
[1:10:29] Speaker 3: are encounters that I personally believe are real and in
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: my experience for this part of the country, for anybody
[1:10:38] Speaker 3: that's that's listening and you're trying to get a feel
[1:10:41] Speaker 3: of why I'm talking about Daniel Boone in Alabama and
[1:10:45] Speaker 3: North Georgia and LBL and everything. LBL doesn't really fit
[1:10:49] Speaker 3: into the profile. It's got its own separate thing that
[1:10:53] Speaker 3: I could talk about later. But the Appalachian Mountain Train
[1:10:58] Speaker 3: coming down I live myself. I'm about three miles away
[1:11:03] Speaker 3: from the Blue Ridge Mountains. They run through here my house.
[1:11:07] Speaker 3: The pictures on my profile page are the Blue Ridge Mountains,
[1:11:12] Speaker 3: but the Appalachian Mountain Train, they're bugger's on it. And
[1:11:16] Speaker 3: I do I would stress to everybody as much as
[1:11:19] Speaker 3: we kind of keep the subject like hearted, do you
[1:11:25] Speaker 3: understand these things are out there, they are real, they
[1:11:29] Speaker 3: do exist, and they're moving up and down that mountain
[1:11:32] Speaker 3: train and if you're in Alabama, if you're in North Georgia,
[1:11:39] Speaker 3: you're in a good area. If you're in parts of
[1:11:41] Speaker 3: western North Carolina eastern Tennessee, you're in a really good area.
[1:11:46] Speaker 3: Southwestern Virginia, they're here, not as prominent as in other places,
[1:11:51] Speaker 3: but they're out there, and I do think people need
[1:11:55] Speaker 3: to be aware that they're real, that they're moving up
[1:12:01] Speaker 3: and down that mountain train and if you go out there,
[1:12:03] Speaker 3: there's a chance you could have an encounter and just
[1:12:05] Speaker 3: be prepared for it.
[1:12:08] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:12:09] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, great, great thoughts.
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: Spencer.
[1:12:11] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show again,
[1:12:14] Speaker 1: and we'll definitely be in touch and have to get
[1:12:18] Speaker 1: an update from you in the future.
[1:12:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, Brot, I appreciate having me. Jeremiah, thank you very much.
[1:12:25] Speaker 1: Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity
[1:12:28] Speaker 1: around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I
[1:12:32] Speaker 1: would love to get out in those woods and experience
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[1:14:04] Speaker 1: help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. Before we
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to
[1:14:11] Speaker 1: a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,
[1:14:15] Speaker 1: any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: no one can explain. Or if you're a National park
[1:14:21] Speaker 1: ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on
[1:14:29] Speaker 1: the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency,
[1:14:32] Speaker 1: or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not
[1:14:36] Speaker 1: allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found
[1:14:42] Speaker 1: tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging
[1:14:45] Speaker 1: industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never
[1:14:53] Speaker 1: told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,
[1:14:57] Speaker 1: or a field researcher under contract has found evidence you're
[1:15:01] Speaker 1: not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the
[1:15:15] Speaker 1: public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even
[1:15:20] Speaker 1: if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.
[1:15:33] Speaker 1: You've got the story, We've got the mic.
[1:15:37] Speaker 2: See you in the woods.
[1:15:39] Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the
[1:15:44] Speaker 1: world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that
[1:15:47] Speaker 1: the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line.
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