# Bigfoot Family Chooses Off-Grid Couple in Davie County, North Carolina

An episode of [Bigfoot Society](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1453429066), 5 Aug 2026, 1 h 37 min.

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Sandi Russo joins Bigfoot Society to share the beginning of one of the most extraordinary long-term encounter accounts ever featured on the show. After moving off-grid in Davie County, North Carolina, strange events quickly became part of everyday life—powerful huff vocalizations, mysterious structures, disappearing tools, heavy footsteps around camp, towering figures hidden among the trees, and repeated close encounters with what she believes is an entire Bigfoot family. Resources: Sandi’s books: https://a.co/d/07FJ7gN7 https://a.co/d/0384092i Sandi’s website: https://sandirusso.com Sandi’s Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@goingoffgridwithsandiandsteve 📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect • Instagram: @bigfootsociety • Twitter: @bigfoot_society • TikTok: @bigfoot.society 🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: • Beam (Better Sleep): Try Beam • Wildgrain (Better Bread): Join Here • Seed (Probiotics): Get Seed • Medi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More • LMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT • Organic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS 🎙️ Podcasting Tools: • Repurpose.io: Try It • Descript: Sign Up • Streamyard: Start Recording • Riverside.fm: Try Riverside 🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
[0:03] Speaker 1: In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
[0:05] Speaker 1: bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
[0:08] Speaker 1: seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
[0:12] Speaker 1: to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
[0:16] Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
[0:20] Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
[0:24] Speaker 1: To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
[0:27] Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
[0:30] Speaker 1: So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers
[0:33] Speaker 1: as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates
[0:37] Speaker 1: about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge
[0:40] Speaker 1: link in the show notes. Thank you, I pick for Society.
[0:44] Speaker 1: You get the privilege of talking to Sandy today. How
[0:48] Speaker 1: are you doing today, Sandy?
[0:49] Speaker 2: I'm great, nervous but great.
[0:52] Speaker 1: That's awesome. I'm so glad that we're able to set
[0:55] Speaker 1: this up. A few things about Sandy is she lives
[1:04] Speaker 1: off grid. We'll be talking about that later. Sandy Russo,
[1:09] Speaker 1: author of the book My Journey with a Bigfoot named
[1:12] Speaker 1: Kai and am I pronouncing that word correctly, Sandy. Yeah, perfect, perfect.
[1:18] Speaker 1: So today this is Sandy's first time being interviewed in
[1:23] Speaker 1: a podcast, so I'm very thankful for that. That's a
[1:26] Speaker 1: big steps. As we were talking before, you know, it's
[1:30] Speaker 1: just a big step is just getting the story out
[1:33] Speaker 1: there in an audio format, in a video format, and
[1:37] Speaker 1: I was like, man, this is going to help a
[1:38] Speaker 1: ton of people, Sandy, and I think it really will.
[1:42] Speaker 1: But you know, we were talking before that we actually
[1:45] Speaker 1: have kind of a cool collection prior to where your
[1:49] Speaker 1: bigfoot stuff starts because we're both from Massachusetts, so that's
[1:53] Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome. I'm from, of course Franklin County, the
[1:56] Speaker 1: Northfield area. Because Sandy was you were asking me before
[2:00] Speaker 1: we recorded about a certain area and you were like,
[2:04] Speaker 1: have you ever gotten hiking in the quab And so
[2:06] Speaker 1: I would love to hear about your adventures. Is maybe
[2:09] Speaker 1: in the quab in for a few minutes, because that
[2:11] Speaker 1: is a beautiful natural area in Massachusetts. People should check
[2:15] Speaker 1: out if they haven't. But yeah, I'd love to hear
[2:18] Speaker 1: about that.
[2:19] Speaker 2: Absolutely gorgeous there. Me and Steve loved hiking there and
[2:24] Speaker 2: we did it daily and we always went together. But
[2:29] Speaker 2: this one particular time, I had a girl day and
[2:33] Speaker 2: Steve decided to go hiking into a swampy area off
[2:39] Speaker 2: of Route nine. So it has a bunch of reads
[2:42] Speaker 2: in it, the moose hanging out there, and so he
[2:46] Speaker 2: was trying to catch a moose because we have not
[2:48] Speaker 2: caught in a moose by this point, and we wanted
[2:50] Speaker 2: to see one. So he went in there by himself,
[2:53] Speaker 2: and he's sitting there and he starts hearing grunting and
[3:01] Speaker 2: some loud noises. And I just happened to call him
[3:05] Speaker 2: at that point to tell him I was done doing
[3:07] Speaker 2: what I was doing and where was he? And he's like,
[3:10] Speaker 2: you scared the crap out of me. And I said why.
[3:13] Speaker 2: He's like, something is making a lot of noise in
[3:16] Speaker 2: front of me, and it's like stomping. So I said, well,
[3:22] Speaker 2: it's probably a bull moose. I said, you finally get
[3:25] Speaker 2: to see one. He goes, I don't think I want
[3:27] Speaker 2: to see this. He said, it's making some god awful noises.
[3:33] Speaker 2: And I said, all right, stay on the boat with
[3:34] Speaker 2: me and back out, just back out. So he starts
[3:40] Speaker 2: backing out and he said, all right, I think a
[3:43] Speaker 2: bar enough. So he said, I'm going to run the
[3:47] Speaker 2: rest of the way, so I hung up.
[3:49] Speaker 3: He ran.
[3:51] Speaker 2: He calls me back when he gets to the truck
[3:54] Speaker 2: and he says, whatever this was was crashing behind me
[4:00] Speaker 2: and chasing me out of the woods, and his heart
[4:05] Speaker 2: was going and he was so scared. He goes, I
[4:11] Speaker 2: don't think that was a moose, but at the time
[4:14] Speaker 2: we didn't think bigfoot. And so then another time we
[4:20] Speaker 2: were hiking in the same area, the boll of Us together.
[4:24] Speaker 2: We decided to go to Nico's Pizza and get a grinder,
[4:27] Speaker 2: and we went out there and we found a dome
[4:30] Speaker 2: like structure in behind the swamp and it was like
[4:35] Speaker 2: a child's apparatus the way it was made, and it
[4:39] Speaker 2: was like this, and it had crisscross things inside it.
[4:44] Speaker 2: We climb in it and I was like, this is
[4:47] Speaker 2: so cute. Not thinking anything, I go in it and
[4:52] Speaker 2: I sit down on a blanket and I'm looking in
[4:56] Speaker 2: the corner and I'm like, what is that? And Steve's
[5:00] Speaker 2: looking and he says, that's a big pilot and there
[5:04] Speaker 2: was a big plot in there. And I said, hopeing moliot,
[5:09] Speaker 2: that's going to be a pair. So I'm like, we
[5:11] Speaker 2: need to get out of here. So we climb out,
[5:16] Speaker 2: and you know, it's funny. We never wondered how that
[5:19] Speaker 2: got there, just never wondered. But we have also gone
[5:25] Speaker 2: through the quabin where the dyke is and we've smelt
[5:30] Speaker 2: some stenches that smelt of rotting dead. It was insane.
[5:39] Speaker 2: And there was one other thing in there. Oh there
[5:43] Speaker 2: was another person from where that saw a white bigfoot
[5:48] Speaker 2: in there.
[5:49] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I've talked to some of them.
[5:52] Speaker 2: Mhm. So I was like, there's definitely a big foot
[5:56] Speaker 2: in there, at least one, if not more.
[5:59] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, just in case listeners haven't heard
[6:05] Speaker 1: them yet. I mean, so if you go into YouTube,
[6:07] Speaker 1: I have playlists for every state in the US, and
[6:10] Speaker 1: there's a Massachusetts playlist, or you can go to the
[6:13] Speaker 1: map on big for Society podcast dot com and you
[6:16] Speaker 1: can find the Kabbin. I've got reports, not all of
[6:19] Speaker 1: them are on the map because some of them are
[6:20] Speaker 1: not public, but I've had people tell me about encounters
[6:24] Speaker 1: from most sides of the Kabbin, but I can definitely
[6:27] Speaker 1: say south of the Kabbin there is a gentleman who
[6:29] Speaker 1: saw one cross the road that looked like in Orangutan.
[6:31] Speaker 1: And then on the west side of the Kabbin. You
[6:33] Speaker 1: have those sightings where it's the White Bigfoot, and there's
[6:36] Speaker 1: multiple ones of those. So yeah, what you're saying lines up.
[6:41] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, over the years too, some whiles after my
[6:44] Speaker 1: going to Sandy. So you had some weird stuff in Massachusetts,
[6:47] Speaker 1: but the really weird stuff, it sounds like, didn't happen
[6:51] Speaker 1: until you got out of state.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Yes, well, we moved three and a half years ago
[6:57] Speaker 2: to North Carolina, out County. We started having weird things.
[7:04] Speaker 2: We moved off grid in February intent so it was
[7:09] Speaker 2: very cold and we just had some really weird things happened.
[7:15] Speaker 2: It was just continual, continual weird things, and we just said,
[7:21] Speaker 2: you know, we're in North Carolina, maybe this kind of
[7:23] Speaker 2: stuff happened. Having our tools disappear and they would reappear
[7:26] Speaker 2: in a whole different area. We'd have things go missing
[7:30] Speaker 2: totally never come back, and that we would have food
[7:34] Speaker 2: go and we just thought it was little animals or something,
[7:38] Speaker 2: you know, we didn't know what was going on. One day,
[7:42] Speaker 2: when we started making buildings, we had the first thing
[7:45] Speaker 2: we were going to make this a pantry. So when
[7:47] Speaker 2: we started making this building for our food, Steve Steve
[7:53] Speaker 2: I just happened to break my leg. So Steve was
[7:58] Speaker 2: doing a lot of this himself and he needed to
[8:01] Speaker 2: find some more screws. So he went down to this
[8:05] Speaker 2: big tent that we had for our stuff and he's
[8:08] Speaker 2: looking for screws. And before he went down there, he
[8:12] Speaker 2: heard a huff. It was just a big huh, and
[8:19] Speaker 2: he's like, what is that? And he thought of it
[8:23] Speaker 2: like coming from the sky or something. And he's looking
[8:25] Speaker 2: around and he's like, I don't know, I don't know
[8:29] Speaker 2: what that is. And so he says, like, wait a minute,
[8:31] Speaker 2: just go on, I need screws. So he goes down
[8:34] Speaker 2: to the area where the screws are and he's looking
[8:38] Speaker 2: for the screws. As soon as he gets in this
[8:40] Speaker 2: little building, he hears a huff from his right and
[8:45] Speaker 2: he's like, what is that? And then it was on
[8:49] Speaker 2: the other side of the building and he said, Then
[8:54] Speaker 2: a third one came and he's like freaking out and
[9:00] Speaker 2: he says, I am not afraid for you of you
[9:04] Speaker 2: stop And then he just stood there and it stopped.
[9:07] Speaker 2: But then he was afraid to go out, but he's
[9:11] Speaker 2: more brave than I am. So eventually he comes out
[9:17] Speaker 2: and it stopped. There was no more of that. But
[9:20] Speaker 2: it was just a random thing that happened, and I
[9:23] Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what that was. And then
[9:29] Speaker 2: the big thing that started that happened one night is
[9:35] Speaker 2: we had moved. We had raccoons getting into our tent
[9:39] Speaker 2: and the dogs had broke the zipper and so they
[9:42] Speaker 2: could get in. And so we went moved into this
[9:50] Speaker 2: little tent and we put our queen size bed in there.
[9:53] Speaker 2: Now it took up the whole thing. It was barely
[9:55] Speaker 2: room to walk. We had to crawl onto the bed
[9:57] Speaker 2: to get in there. But we resipped so I felt
[10:00] Speaker 2: safer in there. So one night we went in and
[10:05] Speaker 2: we're laying there and we hear oooh and on the
[10:09] Speaker 2: top of the tent goes down and we hear a
[10:15] Speaker 2: big bang, and I was like, what is that? And
[10:18] Speaker 2: Steve's like, it's the gosh darn cat. And I was
[10:23] Speaker 2: like sorry. So I crawled down to the bottom of
[10:29] Speaker 2: the bed and unzip it to call my cat in.
[10:31] Speaker 2: And I don't have to call him in because he's
[10:33] Speaker 2: pounding in fair lasses and I'm like, what is the rush?
[10:37] Speaker 2: What's going on? I'm peeking out. I don't see anything.
[10:41] Speaker 2: So we get back in bed, I get under the covers.
[10:44] Speaker 2: Just as I'm under there, whack right on top of
[10:48] Speaker 2: the tent again, and I was like, what is going on?
[10:52] Speaker 2: And then we hear owls. They were it was a
[10:55] Speaker 2: weirdest sounding owl I've ever heard, loud and barely. And
[10:59] Speaker 2: I was like, first there's one over here, then there's
[11:02] Speaker 2: one behind us, and then there's one further that way.
[11:07] Speaker 2: And I was like, Steve, what is that. He's like,
[11:10] Speaker 2: they're owls. I'm like that that isn't that doesn't sound
[11:14] Speaker 2: like an owl. And then the next thing we know,
[11:18] Speaker 2: our bed is flying across the tent. Something shoved it
[11:24] Speaker 2: with us on it and moved it and nothing was
[11:26] Speaker 2: heavy and we we So I don't know what that was.
[11:33] Speaker 2: But when that happened, I started thinking something is going
[11:40] Speaker 2: on here, and I started keeping a journal, and then
[11:44] Speaker 2: I started researching and listening to your channel in Nancy's
[11:50] Speaker 2: channel and crypt of Canada and Dixie Cryptied and all
[11:53] Speaker 2: those channels, trying to find an answer to what was
[11:58] Speaker 2: going on around my property. And I heard similar things.
[12:06] Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, maybe maybe it's a bigfoot. Maybe.
[12:10] Speaker 2: And it took me a while and a lot of
[12:12] Speaker 2: research and even because my story is the biggest woo
[12:21] Speaker 2: anybody's hard it. We have had so many things happen,
[12:27] Speaker 2: but that's how it started, was with the tent, and
[12:30] Speaker 2: then it progressed. So we started having other weird things happened.
[12:38] Speaker 2: We had trees getting pushed down in our yard. There
[12:42] Speaker 2: would be a there was one night there was three
[12:46] Speaker 2: trees that came down and when we went to look,
[12:51] Speaker 2: there was no cause. It was just pushed over and
[12:59] Speaker 2: I'm like, what could do that? It looks like a
[13:04] Speaker 2: big machine went back there and pushed it over. But
[13:06] Speaker 2: there was no tracks and it was there was no storms.
[13:10] Speaker 2: It was just odd. But that was another sign. Then
[13:14] Speaker 2: we started finding structures and bent arches you call them arches. No,
[13:23] Speaker 2: we didn't realize that was a big foot thing for
[13:26] Speaker 2: a long time, but the structures, we thought the trees
[13:31] Speaker 2: were falling like that somehow. I mean there was teepee formations,
[13:35] Speaker 2: there was crisscrossed and underneath. It was odd. But one
[13:41] Speaker 2: of the oddest woy things that we saw that then
[13:48] Speaker 2: was the fog. One night we went out. We always
[13:53] Speaker 2: go out on around sunset to watch the sun come down.
[13:56] Speaker 2: And we're sitting out, you know, the farmer's field a
[13:58] Speaker 2: couple of acres from our our tents at the time,
[14:03] Speaker 2: and there was a fog. Oh no, first, there was
[14:09] Speaker 2: a sound in the woods. It sounded like a dog
[14:15] Speaker 2: that was extremely hurt. And but he was out in
[14:20] Speaker 2: the middle of the woods and we had had dogs
[14:24] Speaker 2: get loose, so not ours, but the neighbors, and we
[14:29] Speaker 2: stop earlier. So he says, well, maybe that's one of
[14:32] Speaker 2: the dogs. I should go check and make sure they're okay.
[14:36] Speaker 2: So I didn't feel good, but he went. I sat
[14:38] Speaker 2: in the truck and he went about fifty yards away
[14:41] Speaker 2: and calling a dog, and all sounds stopped. No sound.
[14:49] Speaker 2: So then he goes, well, I can't find it, and
[14:52] Speaker 2: it's not making any noise anymore. So he comes back
[14:56] Speaker 2: to the truck and gets in it. As soon as
[14:58] Speaker 2: this butt hits the seat, the noise begins again, and
[15:06] Speaker 2: he's like, oh, he said, there they are. He said,
[15:08] Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, and I'm like, no, no, something's going on.
[15:15] Speaker 2: And then I turn around and look over my shoulder
[15:18] Speaker 2: and there is a fog rolling in. It's not in
[15:22] Speaker 2: the farmer's field. It's coming from behind us and on
[15:27] Speaker 2: the side of us, and it's rolling I've never seen
[15:32] Speaker 2: a fog roll, but this thing well was rolling at
[15:38] Speaker 2: us from two sides, and I Steve, Steve, we need
[15:41] Speaker 2: to get out of here. This isn't right. We need
[15:45] Speaker 2: to leave. So we high tailed it out of there.
[15:49] Speaker 2: Never saw the fog thing again, but it scared the
[15:52] Speaker 2: crap out of us because it was just too whoa.
[15:58] Speaker 2: So that was those were the first things that we
[16:04] Speaker 2: came across.
[16:07] Speaker 1: I was curious, what is the time span that everything
[16:12] Speaker 1: you've told me so far has happened in?
[16:19] Speaker 2: That was about maybe a three month period when it
[16:26] Speaker 2: starts the tent. Things started, it started escalating, and things
[16:32] Speaker 2: started happening. So after that we go to we build
[16:37] Speaker 2: a cabin and this has got to be October, and
[16:41] Speaker 2: we're in the cabin and Steve's sleeping and I'm sitting
[16:47] Speaker 2: on the couch and I hear boom boom, and the
[16:56] Speaker 2: cabin's shaking. It was kind of like there's a dinosaur outside.
[17:01] Speaker 2: That's kind of what it sounded like Jurassic Park. And
[17:07] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I started giggling because I'm thinking,
[17:11] Speaker 2: is this a freaking bigfoot? I'm like, what is going
[17:16] Speaker 2: on here? And I didn't wake Steve. Up. Didn't even
[17:23] Speaker 2: think about it because I was such in the moment
[17:27] Speaker 2: and the only thing that I did do was jump
[17:30] Speaker 2: up and lock the door, not that that would help
[17:32] Speaker 2: if you really wanted to get in. But then after
[17:38] Speaker 2: that night, it was a few nights later that we
[17:41] Speaker 2: have a chain hoist on the tree and something was
[17:45] Speaker 2: pulling it and it's going and I was like, Steve
[17:55] Speaker 2: again sleeping. A lot of this happened when Steve is sleeping.
[17:58] Speaker 2: This is this is like a total me stories. That
[18:00] Speaker 2: is why I thought I was going insane. And I'm
[18:03] Speaker 2: trying to peek out of the window to see if
[18:05] Speaker 2: I can see anything. I can't see anything. Again, I
[18:07] Speaker 2: get off, make sure the doors locked. But then it stopped.
[18:12] Speaker 2: So I said to Steve, I said, we need to
[18:14] Speaker 2: go outside and check the ground because something was out
[18:18] Speaker 2: there last night. So we're looking around and I find
[18:23] Speaker 2: toe prins deep toeprins and there. So I said to Steve,
[18:29] Speaker 2: I said, come here, look, one side in the mud
[18:31] Speaker 2: had five, and then partial in the grass and and
[18:34] Speaker 2: the mud had three. And I'm like, something was here
[18:38] Speaker 2: and he comes over and steps on it. So there's
[18:41] Speaker 2: no pictures. I never got any proof ever. I tried
[18:50] Speaker 2: to take pictures, and later on I asked them if
[18:55] Speaker 2: I could and because I wanted to get a picture
[18:57] Speaker 2: of the eye shine. Nope, nope, they just don't jibe
[19:05] Speaker 2: on that. When I was positive, yeah, it was a
[19:08] Speaker 2: big big foot. Was when I was in bed, just
[19:13] Speaker 2: laying there. All of a sudden, the boys come, oh.
[19:21] Speaker 1: Man, hold on, Sandy, this is this is super important,
[19:24] Speaker 1: and we need to let the internet catch up a
[19:26] Speaker 1: little bit because this is super important and it's it's
[19:29] Speaker 1: going in and out. Let's make sure the internet catches
[19:33] Speaker 1: up for a second. Okay, perfect, this is yeah, this
[19:38] Speaker 1: is really important. Do you mind starting over at the
[19:41] Speaker 1: point where you're, like I was laying down and then.
[19:44] Speaker 2: Something to your pros.
[19:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we will wait for a minute. Check check check.
[20:01] Speaker 2: What part are we starting over.
[20:03] Speaker 1: Let's let's start at the point where you are laying
[20:06] Speaker 1: down and then you it sounded like you were about
[20:09] Speaker 1: to share that you heard something or something else.
[20:14] Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with the internet, it says,
[20:16] Speaker 2: I have internet.
[20:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are good now. So the part
[20:23] Speaker 1: where you were laying down in the I believe in
[20:27] Speaker 1: the cabin and you start to hear some things.
[20:32] Speaker 2: Okay, thank you the boys.
[20:36] Speaker 1: Yes.
[20:38] Speaker 2: So it's laying down in the cabin ready to go
[20:40] Speaker 2: to bed.
[20:42] Speaker 4: When I'm thinking about things, and I hear other voice,
[20:52] Speaker 4: clear as about in my mind and it's did you
[20:57] Speaker 4: get that?
[20:57] Speaker 2: Because I buzzed out.
[20:59] Speaker 3: Uh no, I think.
[21:02] Speaker 1: It's usually when you launch into stuff like this on
[21:05] Speaker 1: on these shows, that's when stuff gets wild. Let's try
[21:09] Speaker 1: one more time.
[21:10] Speaker 2: Okay, they might be screwing with me. Sometimes they do that.
[21:13] Speaker 1: Yep.
[21:15] Speaker 2: So I was laying in bed thinking about things, and
[21:19] Speaker 2: all of a sudden I heard another voice in my
[21:22] Speaker 2: mind and in a deep rally voice, it said hello.
[21:32] Speaker 2: And then I was like, did I just hear that?
[21:38] Speaker 2: And then I thought about it and I was like, hello,
[21:42] Speaker 2: where are you? Of course you get nothing, nothing. I've
[21:47] Speaker 2: got one reply from these guys.
[21:49] Speaker 3: Nothing.
[21:52] Speaker 2: And but after that happened, I was insane with here voices. Really,
[22:02] Speaker 2: I had thoughts put in my mind and I just
[22:07] Speaker 2: thought I was going insane. Ah, I don't know what's
[22:15] Speaker 2: going on with the internet. Now I lost my track. Oh, okay,
[22:21] Speaker 2: start again. So after that, I got a dream, and
[22:31] Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever been in a dream
[22:33] Speaker 2: where you're looking at your dream from the outside. I've
[22:40] Speaker 2: never had a dream like that. This was so off
[22:43] Speaker 2: for me. And I'm watching and when I'm watching it,
[22:48] Speaker 2: I see a big clearing with a lot a big foot.
[23:03] Speaker 3: In there.
[23:06] Speaker 2: And there was a big log that had different kinds
[23:12] Speaker 2: of fruit, fruits and vegetables on it. I don't know
[23:18] Speaker 2: what they were.
[23:21] Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
[23:22] Speaker 2: But there was a big thing that I'm not seen
[23:28] Speaker 2: because I am on the outside. And then behind me,
[23:34] Speaker 2: a hand is put on my shoulder and I felt
[23:39] Speaker 2: the biggest prickle in my back and I was like
[23:44] Speaker 2: And then I woke up and I was like, what
[23:50] Speaker 2: was that? I have never ever had a dream like that.
[23:56] Speaker 2: And I talked to a couple of people and they
[23:58] Speaker 2: said it's called green travel, where they take you to
[24:04] Speaker 2: show you something. So I don't know if they were
[24:08] Speaker 2: introducing their family. I don't know exactly what it was,
[24:12] Speaker 2: but I was freaked out. It was a male that
[24:21] Speaker 2: was with me. I am sender. Okay, so if it
[24:31] Speaker 2: blanks out, if I pause and don't talk, will that
[24:35] Speaker 2: be okay?
[24:37] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[24:38] Speaker 2: Yep, Now I lost you your friend? Okay, okay? Where
[24:46] Speaker 2: am I? Oh?
[24:50] Speaker 3: God, help me?
[24:57] Speaker 1: Unlos you're doing? I can ask some questions for a bit.
[25:00] Speaker 1: It might be a good question break and then that'll
[25:03] Speaker 1: probably job. It's kind of going in and out. Yeah, yep,
[25:14] Speaker 1: if you want, we can always we can try going
[25:19] Speaker 1: over to a phone interview. If you have better phone
[25:23] Speaker 1: coverage then Wi Fi coverage.
[25:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, I might. You want to try it, Yeah.
[25:31] Speaker 1: Let's try it. Okay, So we're gonna this will be
[25:34] Speaker 1: like I'm going to go ahead and end this recording,
[25:38] Speaker 1: and then we need to make sure that everything is cool.
[25:43] Speaker 1: Uh So, Sandy, that's that's incredible. I have not heard
[25:49] Speaker 1: many people that have experienced the the dreams like you
[25:55] Speaker 1: have just shared. And it is one thing I want
[26:02] Speaker 1: to say real quick because I know going into this,
[26:05] Speaker 1: you're like, this is this is super wo this is
[26:09] Speaker 1: super crazy. But the thing is is that more people
[26:12] Speaker 1: are experiencing this than you probably realize. Where there's you know,
[26:17] Speaker 1: voices being heard, strange dreams, this thing. I mean, I've
[26:22] Speaker 1: experienced stuff like this myself from when I first went
[26:25] Speaker 1: into Oregon. When I came back, I have really intense
[26:28] Speaker 1: dreams about Bigfoot. When I went to Tennessee a few
[26:33] Speaker 1: months ago, I heard voices multiple times in the area
[26:36] Speaker 1: we were at. I was oh, yeah, there was a
[26:42] Speaker 1: there's a cabin where I was in. I was trying
[26:45] Speaker 1: to take a nap and I was almost falling asleep,
[26:47] Speaker 1: and then a voice said, gotcha on my left side,
[26:50] Speaker 1: or what I assumed to be my left side, and
[26:54] Speaker 1: it was very strange. It made me get out of
[26:56] Speaker 1: the cabin pretty quick. I was like, WHOA, that's weird.
[26:59] Speaker 1: SOE like that happens. I mean, if you're in the
[27:02] Speaker 1: right areas, I think you're going to have those interactions.
[27:05] Speaker 1: But was your was he also experiencing these same things
[27:11] Speaker 1: as well, not like me, okay, gotcha.
[27:16] Speaker 3: It wasn't until later.
[27:18] Speaker 2: Oh, I think I was having introductions as why I
[27:22] Speaker 2: was what was happening. Because the next thing that happened
[27:27] Speaker 2: to me, we were driving on a rainy day in
[27:33] Speaker 2: the woods and we were coming out near the farmer's
[27:36] Speaker 2: field and I just happened to look in the farmer's
[27:38] Speaker 2: field and in the cross between the fields there's trees
[27:44] Speaker 2: and bushes and there was two shins, hairy shins, sticking
[27:49] Speaker 2: out of the brush. And I said, oh, Steve, stop
[27:55] Speaker 2: and I'm like, back up, back up. I saw something.
[27:59] Speaker 2: And then when we went it was gone. And you say,
[28:03] Speaker 2: to yourself. Did I just freaking see that? And these
[28:08] Speaker 2: shins were it was like grayish, but it was wet,
[28:14] Speaker 2: so it was a little blackish too, but the skin
[28:17] Speaker 2: looked pinkish, and I was like what, And these thoughts
[28:21] Speaker 2: in my head are. I was like, all right, if
[28:25] Speaker 2: that was you, what does the rest of you look like?
[28:27] Speaker 2: And I think these things and they show me things.
[28:31] Speaker 2: So the next thing I know, I'm sitting in the
[28:33] Speaker 2: cabin and I was just sitting there thinking. In my mind,
[28:39] Speaker 2: my eyes were closed, and then in my mind I
[28:42] Speaker 2: get a video which was remote viewing, and I'm seeing
[28:48] Speaker 2: a gray saucequatch standing on rock and I'm looking.
[28:55] Speaker 3: And I'm like, how can I see this? And I
[29:01] Speaker 3: saw his face.
[29:05] Speaker 2: And he had like a little bump on his head
[29:09] Speaker 2: and he had pinkish skin, and I was like, I
[29:12] Speaker 2: never heard of a big foot that had pinkish skin,
[29:15] Speaker 2: but he did.
[29:16] Speaker 3: It was like tannish pinkish.
[29:19] Speaker 2: And what distracted me was I was seeing this in
[29:25] Speaker 2: real time because his fur was dancing in the wind
[29:31] Speaker 2: and I could see it, and I was like, whoa,
[29:36] Speaker 2: And I said out loud, I said, you're a handsome guy.
[29:39] Speaker 3: And he was a nice looking sasquatch for a sasquatch.
[29:44] Speaker 2: And when I said that, I opened my eyes and
[29:48] Speaker 2: the remote viewing was broken and I no longer could see.
[29:53] Speaker 3: But I was like, did I just see that? I'm like,
[29:59] Speaker 3: what is going on here? But I did.
[30:04] Speaker 2: I'm running tell him Steve, and Steve's like what, And
[30:08] Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know how, but I saw him,
[30:13] Speaker 2: and and I knew that he was not showing me himself.
[30:19] Speaker 2: It was another one that was showing me. It was
[30:21] Speaker 2: a female presence. And the reason I know these kind
[30:25] Speaker 2: of things is I'm a sensitive and I can see
[30:29] Speaker 2: here in field ghosts, so I am an impath.
[30:34] Speaker 3: So I can feel emotions.
[30:37] Speaker 2: So I had a good hook up with him, and
[30:42] Speaker 2: that kind of sense, I like knew everything.
[30:46] Speaker 1: Sorry, real quick, can you can you clarify what you
[30:50] Speaker 1: mean by that?
[30:53] Speaker 3: Bye?
[30:53] Speaker 1: Bye? You had a good hookup with him.
[30:58] Speaker 2: I I could read him. I could read his thoughts,
[31:02] Speaker 2: he could read mine, and it just so happens his
[31:07] Speaker 2: whole family could.
[31:08] Speaker 3: But I know there was more than one at the time, and.
[31:14] Speaker 2: I could feel when he was happy. I never ever
[31:20] Speaker 2: felt him raged at all. I felt unperturbed, but not raged.
[31:29] Speaker 2: After I saw that I started. We were having fires,
[31:37] Speaker 2: and we started noticing that there's knocking.
[31:42] Speaker 3: And there was brush moving.
[31:48] Speaker 2: And I said to Steve, I said, I always feel
[31:53] Speaker 2: like I'm being watched. He goes, I feel that too,
[31:58] Speaker 2: and I said, well, well something's with us. I feel it,
[32:03] Speaker 2: and so he grabbed the flashlighte and he go looking.
[32:06] Speaker 2: He never found anything, never found anything. But I started
[32:15] Speaker 2: asking out loud because I would feel him and I
[32:18] Speaker 2: would like, are you there?
[32:20] Speaker 3: Oh?
[32:21] Speaker 2: You know what? First I asked him what his name was? Okay,
[32:26] Speaker 2: and he when I was sleeping and these words, these
[32:32] Speaker 2: letters were floating at me. K A I k A,
[32:38] Speaker 2: I just floating And then it woke me up and I.
[32:42] Speaker 3: Was like, your name is Kai. I think your name's Kai.
[32:47] Speaker 3: That's what I think.
[32:48] Speaker 1: Wait, can I ask you a question about that real quick?
[32:50] Speaker 1: So it's just really important. So when you say they
[32:53] Speaker 1: were floating at you, were you almost like you're in
[32:57] Speaker 1: that dream state where you're waking up and it's just
[32:59] Speaker 1: all almost like these huge block letters are coming at
[33:03] Speaker 1: you and you're like, wow, what is that? Like that?
[33:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of how it was.
[33:08] Speaker 1: I know what that is, yep, okay.
[33:12] Speaker 2: So then I knew what to call him, and I
[33:15] Speaker 2: knew for sure it was a he, you know, because
[33:18] Speaker 2: you have your doubts. And so then when we were
[33:22] Speaker 2: sitting at fires, we feel him and I would say this,
[33:28] Speaker 2: you know, see do you feel what if you feel it?
[33:31] Speaker 2: And sometimes you wouldn't. Sometimes you wouldn't, but we would
[33:35] Speaker 2: hear pops like with your mouth, like big lad pops
[33:41] Speaker 2: and like with making that.
[33:43] Speaker 3: He's like, do you hear it?
[33:45] Speaker 2: And I said no, not really, but we turn everything
[33:52] Speaker 2: down then we'd hear it.
[33:54] Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, that's weird. What is that?
[33:58] Speaker 2: You know, in the back of my mind, I know,
[34:01] Speaker 2: but your logical mind is telling you what is going on.
[34:07] Speaker 2: So we put we put our a little podcast back on.
[34:10] Speaker 2: We are listening to and we here crashing in the
[34:16] Speaker 2: woods right next to us. I mean, like a bull
[34:20] Speaker 2: with rinders is crashing, and it goes from one side
[34:25] Speaker 2: of us around because there's like a little loop that
[34:28] Speaker 2: we sit in, and he goes to the other side
[34:30] Speaker 2: behind my pantry. And it was very scary, and I'm like,
[34:36] Speaker 2: copy is that you? And I was a little shaky,
[34:41] Speaker 2: you know, and I said, Steve, meane we should go in.
[34:45] Speaker 2: So we ended up picking up and going in. And
[34:50] Speaker 2: when I'm in there and Steve falls asleep and I'm
[34:53] Speaker 2: laying there and I finally fill asleep too.
[34:56] Speaker 3: Then I get up to go to the bathroom.
[35:00] Speaker 2: And I get a vision again, but it was kind
[35:05] Speaker 2: of like a memory. And I see the back of
[35:11] Speaker 2: my pantry. I see the fire going. I can't see
[35:16] Speaker 2: me because I'm in front of the pantry, but I
[35:19] Speaker 2: see the fire and I see the glow, and I'm
[35:24] Speaker 2: seeing the woods and I can turn my head.
[35:28] Speaker 3: And see everything. It was just odd.
[35:33] Speaker 2: But when this shut off of my brain, I knew
[35:41] Speaker 2: where he was and I knew it was him because
[35:45] Speaker 2: it was like he was sending me, yes, it was me.
[35:50] Speaker 2: And he did that often, but usually my eyes were
[35:55] Speaker 2: close when I got it, when I got those visions,
[36:00] Speaker 2: but not always. Sometimes I would be sitting there and
[36:04] Speaker 2: things would just go black, and then I would I
[36:08] Speaker 2: would see whatever he wanted me to see, and I
[36:13] Speaker 2: could turn my head. I could see everything that he saw.
[36:17] Speaker 2: It was I thought I was the lupiest girl ever.
[36:22] Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on. Well, I didn't
[36:25] Speaker 2: know what was going on, and I was searching for
[36:27] Speaker 2: answers like you wouldn't believe, And I didn't want to
[36:29] Speaker 2: tell anybody because I was just like, people are.
[36:31] Speaker 3: Going to think I'm sane, what is going on?
[36:39] Speaker 2: But one day me and Steve were picking up leaves
[36:45] Speaker 2: and we had set all our tools on the shed,
[36:49] Speaker 2: all in the rough, and.
[36:51] Speaker 3: We go and we go to bed, and we come
[36:53] Speaker 3: back out in the morning.
[36:53] Speaker 2: We go to pick up and the shovel's gone, and
[37:01] Speaker 2: I'm like, do you have the shovel.
[37:03] Speaker 3: He's like, no, it's on the shed. I'm like, it's
[37:06] Speaker 3: not on the shed.
[37:08] Speaker 2: He's like, all right, let's go take a ride, because
[37:10] Speaker 2: oddly we'd find things all over the d.
[37:14] Speaker 3: So we took a ride and we're looking around high
[37:17] Speaker 3: and low, and we come upon.
[37:20] Speaker 2: The place where we are going to be working next
[37:24] Speaker 2: and the shovel is behind a tree right where we're
[37:27] Speaker 2: going to work. And I'm like, get out of here.
[37:33] Speaker 2: And you have to start having some a sense of
[37:37] Speaker 2: humor with this.
[37:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, because the.
[37:40] Speaker 2: Joking that happened here is insane. There was one day
[37:48] Speaker 2: that it was so hot out here and we had
[37:50] Speaker 2: bought these little tiny fans, these ubs stands, and Steve
[37:55] Speaker 2: gets this bright idea that it's going to cool off
[37:58] Speaker 2: the house if he turns it opposite, puts it in
[38:00] Speaker 2: front of a little window. So he goes in the
[38:03] Speaker 2: house to set this up, thinking it's going to be
[38:06] Speaker 2: cooler in the house after because the cool air is.
[38:08] Speaker 3: Going to commit. And he goes in there.
[38:13] Speaker 2: And I hear him start to come out, and then
[38:16] Speaker 2: I hear him swearing, and I was like, but I'm
[38:22] Speaker 2: also feeling a little happiness going on, And I was like,
[38:25] Speaker 2: what is going on? So I listen again and I
[38:29] Speaker 2: hear him get it on again, and he starts to
[38:32] Speaker 2: walk out the door again and he shuts off again.
[38:37] Speaker 3: He's like, what the heck.
[38:40] Speaker 2: And he's walking back and he gets it. He's like,
[38:44] Speaker 2: all right, you had your fine.
[38:46] Speaker 3: Stop it.
[38:48] Speaker 2: Freaking fan comes on and doesn't go off again. And
[38:52] Speaker 2: this kind of stuff happened to us all the time.
[38:55] Speaker 2: They would just shut things off, and I don't know
[38:58] Speaker 2: how they do it. There's some kind of energy, but
[39:04] Speaker 2: it happens.
[39:07] Speaker 3: There was another day that I.
[39:11] Speaker 2: Was listening to a radio that was solar and the
[39:15] Speaker 2: solar ran out, so I just left it in the shade.
[39:22] Speaker 3: Day I just left it outside. I forgot about it.
[39:26] Speaker 3: We're going in and usually when we go in, we say,
[39:30] Speaker 3: can I ki, and then we go in.
[39:34] Speaker 2: And so we're discussing how obnoxious the bugs are tonight,
[39:40] Speaker 2: meaning they're.
[39:41] Speaker 3: Loud, they're super loud, and.
[39:43] Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm guessing Kai's not around tonight, but I mean,
[39:48] Speaker 2: we don't know, because we try to figure it out,
[39:51] Speaker 2: and then they.
[39:54] Speaker 3: Show us that we're wrong. But we go in.
[40:00] Speaker 2: And then the music starts screaming in our yard up loud.
[40:06] Speaker 2: My heart was racing because I know that radio is dead,
[40:14] Speaker 2: but it's playing outside and now I gotta go out
[40:19] Speaker 2: and shut it off. And so I go out there
[40:24] Speaker 2: and I grabbed the radio.
[40:26] Speaker 3: And it's off. I'm like, what the hen? I said, Okay,
[40:30] Speaker 3: you're funny stopping and I go back in and I.
[40:34] Speaker 2: Said, you're scared to me. He almost gave me a
[40:36] Speaker 2: heart attack, and I could feel him laughing. He asks
[40:40] Speaker 2: this joy about him that you could swear he's rolling
[40:45] Speaker 2: on the ground laughing, and I feel it. And he
[40:50] Speaker 2: he does that to our phones too. There was there
[40:55] Speaker 2: was a day.
[40:58] Speaker 3: There's like a half.
[40:59] Speaker 2: Hour of trying to get the phone to work with
[41:01] Speaker 2: the phone company, and finally they tell me.
[41:04] Speaker 3: To shut it off. It'll work in fifteen minutes. Let
[41:07] Speaker 3: it do its thing. Fifteen minutes later, I turned back up.
[41:12] Speaker 3: It's not on.
[41:14] Speaker 2: Next my niece says her phone's not working either, no text,
[41:19] Speaker 2: no internet.
[41:20] Speaker 3: And then Steve gets the same thing.
[41:23] Speaker 2: And we didn't have any internet up here at the time,
[41:28] Speaker 2: so we just have the phone data. But I mean,
[41:31] Speaker 2: that never goes out, and they're all useless. All the
[41:35] Speaker 2: phones are useless. And then it.
[41:39] Speaker 3: Dawns on us what's going on.
[41:41] Speaker 2: All three of us are start laughing because we know
[41:44] Speaker 2: they're doing it, and we're like, you need to stop it.
[41:49] Speaker 2: And he says to me, in my mind, I don't
[41:53] Speaker 2: know what your obsession is with these devices. He said
[41:58] Speaker 2: they're bad, and I said they might be bad. I said,
[42:03] Speaker 2: but we don't have anything to do in the pitch
[42:06] Speaker 2: Stark but play on our games and talk, so you
[42:12] Speaker 2: need to stop. And then they don't go back on again.
[42:19] Speaker 2: So but there's a lot of that that still happens today.
[42:23] Speaker 1: That is incredible. Sandy, my goodness, let me throw a
[42:30] Speaker 1: question here. Talk to me. Well, okay, so sometimes I
[42:36] Speaker 1: ask some questions just to clarify something. And I do
[42:39] Speaker 1: not mean anything bad by these questions. Okay, it's just
[42:43] Speaker 1: me getting more information. So when you are having these experiences,
[42:52] Speaker 1: would you consider yourself sober or are there other Are
[42:57] Speaker 1: there are times when there are things being used and
[43:00] Speaker 1: then these things occur.
[43:03] Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm not a big drinker.
[43:05] Speaker 2: Okay, i'd smoke pot. I don't do any of that. Okay,
[43:10] Speaker 2: so we'll have a drink, but.
[43:14] Speaker 1: Not like not, You're not getting drunk or anything.
[43:16] Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, No, I don't drink to get drunk.
[43:18] Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, do you have I'm really curious because I've
[43:28] Speaker 1: kind of picked up on something, But are you an
[43:31] Speaker 1: individual that is utilizing meditation and things like that?
[43:38] Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm afraid of it.
[43:40] Speaker 1: Really, So this all this is happening without that.
[43:43] Speaker 2: Oh my, I have abilities that I have not uncapped
[43:48] Speaker 2: and I'm afraid of it.
[43:50] Speaker 3: Wow, I am so afraid of it.
[43:52] Speaker 2: And I'm I'm afraid of the Bigfoot big time.
[43:58] Speaker 1: Why are you afraid?
[43:59] Speaker 3: And they know this because they're huge. I've seen them.
[44:04] Speaker 2: When we started seeing them, they were in the dark
[44:08] Speaker 2: and they were shadows and they were Kai has got
[44:11] Speaker 2: to be about ten feet.
[44:12] Speaker 3: He's huge.
[44:14] Speaker 2: And we measured a tree that he was near and
[44:18] Speaker 2: about where we saw because what happens at night is
[44:22] Speaker 2: when they're standing around, they just blend into.
[44:25] Speaker 3: The tree like you'll see a little.
[44:27] Speaker 2: Sapling and I mean not a sapling, but maybe six
[44:31] Speaker 2: six inches around maybe, and that little tree will turn
[44:35] Speaker 2: into a big tree and they put their they stand
[44:39] Speaker 2: behind it, they put their two hands on the tree,
[44:44] Speaker 2: and then they turn into the tree. If that makes
[44:46] Speaker 2: any sense, it does, it does. Yeah, they are just
[44:52] Speaker 2: a tree. And I have They make me doubt myself.
[44:57] Speaker 2: They make us both doubt ourselves. Is there a big
[45:00] Speaker 2: treeo there? I don't remember a big tree being there,
[45:02] Speaker 2: but there'll be a big tree there.
[45:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[45:04] Speaker 3: And it's so strange. But I saw them, but I
[45:11] Speaker 3: noticed that I was afraid to even go outside by myself.
[45:15] Speaker 3: It's not that.
[45:16] Speaker 2: I'm afraid of Kai and his family, because I'm not.
[45:19] Speaker 2: It's the size. It's the size of these things. They're huge.
[45:26] Speaker 2: They are so big, and I am petrified. And I
[45:33] Speaker 2: always say to them, if you're going to show yourself
[45:36] Speaker 2: to me, please do it in the field during the day,
[45:41] Speaker 2: a bit away from me so I can absorb it
[45:45] Speaker 2: and hopefully send me call me and energy user something
[45:49] Speaker 2: because I don't look like I don't know and I
[45:52] Speaker 2: want so bad to meet them and shake their hand,
[45:56] Speaker 2: but I'm that afraid. I am that I've always been
[45:59] Speaker 2: afraid of my gift. I've always been afraid of you know,
[46:03] Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. And it's it's not I mean,
[46:09] Speaker 2: I've got brave like you wouldn't believe on certain things,
[46:13] Speaker 2: but when it comes to physically meeting them, I've been
[46:17] Speaker 2: afraid and I have sitting well, we haven't gotten through
[46:23] Speaker 2: the whole story, but Kai has come up maybe five
[46:28] Speaker 2: to ten feet from me when I was sitting on
[46:31] Speaker 2: the ground, and they can feel your energy because my
[46:38] Speaker 2: heart was racing so much. He backed away and he
[46:44] Speaker 2: didn't just back away, he floated away.
[46:48] Speaker 3: So much. Woo.
[46:50] Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's not really, Sandy. It's man, if
[46:55] Speaker 1: I have anything to do with this community over the
[46:58] Speaker 1: next years, I have to do this. It's that just
[47:02] Speaker 1: WU is out of the picture and that it's not
[47:05] Speaker 1: referred to that and it's like, I think this is
[47:07] Speaker 1: the real side of things to be, to be honest, Andy,
[47:10] Speaker 1: and it's we're just not accepting it. You know, it's happening. Yeah,
[47:14] Speaker 1: it's absolutely happening out there. So a question about when
[47:19] Speaker 1: he was that close where he was he behind you
[47:21] Speaker 1: or was he in front of you and you could see.
[47:23] Speaker 2: Him the time I was sitting on the ground.
[47:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I saw the eye shine. But okay,
[47:33] Speaker 3: he walked up to me.
[47:35] Speaker 2: I was sitting facing him, and he got taller and
[47:39] Speaker 2: taller and.
[47:40] Speaker 3: Taller, and I panicked.
[47:45] Speaker 2: I didn't run, but he he had to have felt
[47:50] Speaker 2: my racing heart because he stopped.
[47:54] Speaker 3: But I wanted to see his baby so bad, so bad,
[47:58] Speaker 3: he's so little, but I couldn't. I was afraid.
[48:06] Speaker 2: That is that is the big problem, is that I
[48:10] Speaker 2: am very afraid.
[48:12] Speaker 1: What do you think it would take for you to
[48:14] Speaker 1: get past that fear.
[48:19] Speaker 2: I was hoping is that they would send me caming energies,
[48:24] Speaker 2: which I know they can, and I would be able
[48:28] Speaker 2: to substain sustain.
[48:31] Speaker 3: It or be able to sustain it.
[48:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, encounter it without freaking out. I have a
[48:39] Speaker 2: heart condition, and.
[48:40] Speaker 3: That's the problem. Okay, that is the problem. So but.
[48:47] Speaker 2: On when I finally realized that he was not alone,
[48:56] Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why I thought he was alone.
[48:58] Speaker 2: I mean I heard three I will you know right
[49:01] Speaker 2: from the beginning, obviously he had friends.
[49:04] Speaker 3: Back I just because he told me who he was.
[49:08] Speaker 2: I just you know, he was the only one I
[49:11] Speaker 2: saw in my mind. Not yet did I see him.
[49:16] Speaker 2: And actually I have not never met Kai, but I
[49:22] Speaker 2: have met his mate, which we'll get into later. I
[49:26] Speaker 2: realized there was more is that I had already heard
[49:33] Speaker 2: Kay's voice, so I knew what he sounded like.
[49:37] Speaker 3: And one day I was canning.
[49:41] Speaker 2: And I was cutting a bunch of onions up I
[49:43] Speaker 2: was doing potatoes and the neighbor who's about five hundred
[49:47] Speaker 2: feet away from me up on a hill, comes down
[49:50] Speaker 2: a hill and she brings me a plate of food
[49:53] Speaker 2: and she's introducing herself kind of.
[49:55] Speaker 3: It was like.
[49:57] Speaker 2: It was sweet. So but she brought her little grandkids
[50:02] Speaker 2: and she speaks Spanish, very hard to understand her, but
[50:06] Speaker 2: her granddaughter speaks good English, so she was interpreting for us.
[50:10] Speaker 3: And the little boy.
[50:13] Speaker 2: Was pointing to the woods and he starts yelling monster,
[50:19] Speaker 2: and she's just smiling, and I'm looking because I know
[50:24] Speaker 2: what he's seen, and he's like smacking his grandmother.
[50:28] Speaker 3: He's like monster, and.
[50:32] Speaker 2: He gives it like a half wave. I don't know
[50:34] Speaker 2: if it waved to him and gave it a half wave.
[50:37] Speaker 2: And I'm looking over there and I said, Ki, please
[50:41] Speaker 2: don't scare my neighbors. And the grandmother looks at him
[50:46] Speaker 2: finally and she goes, do you see your crocodile? And
[50:50] Speaker 2: he's looking at her like that doesn't look like no crocodile.
[50:53] Speaker 2: And he's looking and I see where he's looking, but
[50:57] Speaker 2: I don't see anything, and he says, uh, yeah, crocodile.
[51:05] Speaker 3: And I was like, what is that?
[51:08] Speaker 2: And I was like, that is the weirdest thing because
[51:11] Speaker 2: he saw it the little boy saide.
[51:15] Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, that's weird.
[51:18] Speaker 2: So but a little while later, I'm canning by myself
[51:23] Speaker 2: and I hear because I'm thinking to myself, it's too
[51:29] Speaker 2: bad I don't have a big area to cook because
[51:32] Speaker 2: I could make a soup starter with all these extra
[51:35] Speaker 2: vegetable things and the onions would be really yummy. And
[51:42] Speaker 2: in my mind, I hear, can I have it? And
[51:49] Speaker 2: by this point I'm a little used to what's going on,
[51:52] Speaker 2: and I say, sure, where would you like me to
[51:55] Speaker 2: leave it?
[51:57] Speaker 3: And he answers me.
[51:59] Speaker 2: He says the stroke sure because they have a structure
[52:02] Speaker 2: that I leave food on for once in a while, okay,
[52:07] Speaker 2: And I'm laughing because I'm thinking he can't possibly think
[52:11] Speaker 2: he's gonna like this. I mean, soup is a different
[52:14] Speaker 2: thing than onions, you know, pieces, And I'm like, he
[52:18] Speaker 2: can't possibly know what this is. But he heard me
[52:22] Speaker 2: say yummy and this would be good, and he heard
[52:26] Speaker 2: this stuff in my mind. He's mind dropping that he's dropping.
[52:33] Speaker 2: And so I wrapped the onions up, and I decide
[52:39] Speaker 2: to go get some pork rints because I know they
[52:41] Speaker 2: like them. So there was a quarterback left, so I
[52:44] Speaker 2: wrapped it up and put it on the crisscross on
[52:49] Speaker 2: the structure, put it under there, and I hung the
[52:51] Speaker 2: onions there and I went back laughing because I'm thinking,
[52:54] Speaker 2: he's not kind of like this, but they'll get a
[52:57] Speaker 2: good surprise too. So I go there because I forgot
[53:01] Speaker 2: about it, but just before I went to that, I said,
[53:03] Speaker 2: oh yeah. So I go over there, and of course
[53:07] Speaker 2: the onions are still there, but the pork rains are gone,
[53:13] Speaker 2: and in its place was a neatly folded bag back
[53:19] Speaker 2: exactly where I left it. And I just immediately felt
[53:23] Speaker 2: the gratitude that I left in the pork because they
[53:28] Speaker 2: seem to really like pork rains. I don't know why,
[53:31] Speaker 2: but they do. So that was the gift. That was
[53:35] Speaker 2: the second time, and I got a reply from the
[53:38] Speaker 2: mind speak. But there are times when I hear in
[53:46] Speaker 2: my own voice. One day, I was playing Candy Crush
[53:53] Speaker 2: and I hear from behind me, what that And I'm like,
[54:02] Speaker 2: it's a game, something to pass your time. And I
[54:07] Speaker 2: hold the tablet up to the socke of me because
[54:10] Speaker 2: it feels like he's right there, and I'm explaining it
[54:13] Speaker 2: to him. I'm like, this is what I do when
[54:18] Speaker 2: I'm waiting for bood to cook.
[54:20] Speaker 3: I passed the time, and so when I'm done, I
[54:26] Speaker 3: turned and there's no one there.
[54:28] Speaker 2: But I was compelled to explain it to him.
[54:32] Speaker 3: And I don't know why, but.
[54:36] Speaker 2: There are there are questions that come in my mind
[54:38] Speaker 2: that I know I didn't ask, so I'll just say
[54:43] Speaker 2: it out loud. I'll just tell him.
[54:49] Speaker 3: But there have been.
[54:54] Speaker 2: When we are sitting out with the campfires, Steve had
[54:58] Speaker 2: always jump up and go look for him. And one
[55:01] Speaker 2: day I just happened to be watching and I'm seeing
[55:07] Speaker 2: Steve down the end, but I'm seeing a clear figure
[55:13] Speaker 2: move away and it would stop behind a tree and
[55:19] Speaker 2: it would pause for a minute.
[55:20] Speaker 3: And then it would move away again.
[55:22] Speaker 2: Steve got closer, and then I realized they're cloaking. It's
[55:29] Speaker 2: like the predator. It's exactly like the predator. That is
[55:34] Speaker 2: not the only way they cloak, but I've seen that
[55:38] Speaker 2: they clear. And then one day I'm filtering water and
[55:46] Speaker 2: I hear knocking.
[55:47] Speaker 3: And this is during the day. I hear a big.
[55:50] Speaker 2: Old knock and I'm like, or a crack. I don't
[55:55] Speaker 2: even know what it was, but it was a big
[55:57] Speaker 2: cracking noise. And then I see not even I just
[56:03] Speaker 2: happen to be looking at this side. I see a
[56:05] Speaker 2: big tree get pushed and it comes down towards me,
[56:11] Speaker 2: and then it stops on another tree, and all of
[56:14] Speaker 2: these leaves are falling all over the place like it's snowing.
[56:17] Speaker 2: And I'm looking down there and I'm looking at the tree,
[56:20] Speaker 2: and I'm like, are.
[56:22] Speaker 3: You down there?
[56:25] Speaker 2: So I go down there and I'm looking because I'm
[56:28] Speaker 2: not afraid during the day, so I'm looking around.
[56:32] Speaker 3: I don't see anything, and I'm like, ki, are you here?
[56:36] Speaker 3: And I hear running away, like not.
[56:40] Speaker 2: Really running, walking walking away, like going around the circle,
[56:45] Speaker 2: and he's stop somewhere on the other side, and I
[56:49] Speaker 2: don't see him. I don't know what happened to him.
[56:51] Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, and I go back to filtering. I
[56:54] Speaker 2: get a sense that somebody's watching me and I look
[56:59] Speaker 2: to my and I see a tree that looks like
[57:04] Speaker 2: it has shoulders, and I'm like, I shoulders. I'm like,
[57:10] Speaker 2: that looks like shoulders. So I moved myself forward a
[57:15] Speaker 2: little bit, and I swear to you, Jeremiah, I saw
[57:19] Speaker 2: a head and eyes missus during the day, and this figure.
[57:28] Speaker 3: Look like Bark. There is his fur.
[57:34] Speaker 2: I mean I could tell it was fur, but it
[57:37] Speaker 2: was it looked like bark. And then I see yellow
[57:42] Speaker 2: eyes blinking at me and watching me, and I'm like,
[57:48] Speaker 2: I see you, and he's just looking at me. And
[57:52] Speaker 2: if you've ever saw Stott todd Standings first documentary, the
[57:57] Speaker 2: one he calls Jane, yep. But the fluffy that was that,
[58:03] Speaker 2: That's what I saw. And I something told me to
[58:09] Speaker 2: walk away, and I don't know why. I mean I
[58:14] Speaker 2: walked towards it, but I didn't. I just turned around
[58:21] Speaker 2: and it was gone, but definitely a very odd I
[58:30] Speaker 2: can still see it in my mind, clear as a bell.
[58:34] Speaker 2: He was just observing me, just watching me, and I
[58:41] Speaker 2: thought it when I first.
[58:42] Speaker 3: Saw it was kai. I thought that's what it was.
[58:45] Speaker 2: Then I realized that the one had the one that
[58:49] Speaker 2: I had talked to earlier. His voice sounded like Scooby
[58:54] Speaker 2: Doo and I just started thinking of as Scooby Doo
[59:00] Speaker 2: and is I heard his voice because that's who he
[59:04] Speaker 2: sounded like in.
[59:05] Speaker 1: The way that he was talking, like the way he
[59:09] Speaker 1: was putting words together, or can you go a little
[59:11] Speaker 1: bit more into that.
[59:13] Speaker 2: No, it sounded like the cartoon was talking. It sounded
[59:18] Speaker 2: exactly like him, the way that he you know, kind
[59:23] Speaker 2: of that's what he sounded like. Wow, And it was
[59:28] Speaker 2: I knew when he was younger. I just knew it.
[59:32] Speaker 2: And that's who I think was looking at me during
[59:35] Speaker 2: the day. I mean I had And that was the
[59:39] Speaker 2: point where I realized it was more. And it wasn't
[59:43] Speaker 2: until I saw the eyeshine that I realized how big
[59:46] Speaker 2: his family is, because one day he brought them all
[59:49] Speaker 2: and there was about seven up them.
[59:52] Speaker 3: Down in my gully.
[59:54] Speaker 2: And they just when we're outside listening to podcasts, they
[59:58] Speaker 2: come and listen. They will I can. One day I
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: played because Crypt's candidate has read part of my book
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: on her show, I played that part for him. And
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: he thought it was the most funniest thing. I could
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: feel his laughter. Every time he did something that freaked
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: us out or did something to us, he threw us funny.
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: He likes to get a rise.
[1:00:25] Speaker 3: Out of us.
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: That's wild. Oh my goodness.
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: So just real quick, this is stupid. This is a
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: weird question. So are you listening to this show out there?
[1:00:38] Speaker 3: Yes?
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: So how do how does that go?
[1:00:44] Speaker 3: Well? The stuff that he thinks is funny is about him.
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha.
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: So I'll be curious to see when I play this
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: outside if they react.
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let me know if there's any action that
[1:01:00] Speaker 1: would be really interesting.
[1:01:02] Speaker 3: Wow, okay, they do.
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: They listened to podcasts with us, so I know that
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: they listen, and it's very interesting.
[1:01:11] Speaker 3: It wasn't until.
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: I I have heard of eye shine, but I never
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: knew exactly what it was, and you know, trying to
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: find pictures online wasn't very clear. And so most of
[1:01:28] Speaker 2: what I've heard is red, like there's red eyeshine and
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: it's like reflective somehow. And I'm curious to what you think.
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: What is your theory on the eye shine?
[1:01:45] Speaker 1: So I think it's legit. I mean, there are people
[1:01:50] Speaker 1: I've talked to that. I mean, there's something going on
[1:01:55] Speaker 1: out there. Have I ever? I base a lot off
[1:01:59] Speaker 1: of what I've experienced myself. I have not experienced eye
[1:02:05] Speaker 1: shine yet. But I'm not also a person who is
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: like out there all the time, like you guys are
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: out there, like you live in this right, I get
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: out maybe a few, excuse me, a few weekends a year,
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: you know, But I think there's something to it, definitely,
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: especially when people are like, you know, you've eye shine
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: where it was huge and the different colored eyes were
[1:02:33] Speaker 1: very far away from each other, or they are very
[1:02:35] Speaker 1: high up. I mean, that's stuff that really makes you wonder.
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: So yeah, we I was like, I had asked him
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: if I could.
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: See eye shine because I'd never seen it, and so.
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: I started looking for and I was looking for red
[1:02:56] Speaker 2: because that's what everybody said. And then one day I
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: felt I was being watched. And then they got a
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: tug to turn around, and when I did, I saw
[1:03:09] Speaker 2: blue eyeshine. This was like a baby blue. It was beautiful,
[1:03:14] Speaker 2: and there was a big being, a medium being, and
[1:03:19] Speaker 2: there were some little beans and but his this is Kai.
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: His eyes were like two flashlights shining towards me. I
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: mean they weren't shining like flashlights, but they were that
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: big and they were kind of set apart.
[1:03:37] Speaker 3: And he had the biggest eyes. And it was.
[1:03:46] Speaker 2: The weirdest thing because I'm like this, I show me
[1:03:49] Speaker 2: and see I'm like, see, do you see that?
[1:03:50] Speaker 3: And he's like looking and when he looks, just you
[1:03:53] Speaker 3: don't see anything. And I'm like, you don't see that.
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: And so the first time that we see so I
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: saw it, Steve didn't see it. And then the next night,
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: oh no, is that night we went to go to
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: bed and see the cats wanting to convince. So Steve
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: goes to look the candidate and he hears a pig
[1:04:17] Speaker 2: outside our house. We don't have pigs around here. So
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: Steve grabs his gun and he goes down towards this
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: bridge that we made and he's like, who's out there?
[1:04:33] Speaker 2: And he's looking and he's hearing the pig noise and
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: he's hearing munching like something's eating.
[1:04:39] Speaker 3: He's like, what is that. He's like, who's there?
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: And he's peering out there, and then he hears a
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: child cry.
[1:04:51] Speaker 3: And he said it was the most terrifying noises her
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: a long time. And he ran he said that ain't
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: a kid. What is that?
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: And he ran in the house and he's like locking
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: the door. It's like something's out there, and I said,
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: he said, I thought it was a pig. He said,
[1:05:15] Speaker 2: sound like a pig. He said that I heard a
[1:05:18] Speaker 2: child crying, and I was like, oh jeez, I said,
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: I hope it wasn't the big Foot. And so the
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: next night we went outside and again I get it.
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: The turn to look around and there's eyeshine, but it's
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: not blue anymore, it's amber. And then there is one
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: one little one with red eyes, and I'm like, okay.
[1:05:51] Speaker 3: I instantly.
[1:05:55] Speaker 2: I knew they were perturbed, and I knew that wone
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: with red eyes was mad.
[1:06:03] Speaker 3: And I'm like, see.
[1:06:05] Speaker 2: Commune, I said, scoot down, I said, do you see
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: the eye shine? He's like yeah. I said, now you
[1:06:14] Speaker 2: need to explain your actions from last night, because they're returned.
[1:06:19] Speaker 2: So he told them that if they made that noise,
[1:06:23] Speaker 2: it was very good, but humans pigs are very dangerous
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: to humans, and he wouldn't have hurt them, but it
[1:06:32] Speaker 2: was dangerous and that's.
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: Why he had a gun. Oh okay.
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: So so Steve is actually at this point starting to
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: also talk directly to them.
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yeah, by this, I mean he's always talked
[1:06:47] Speaker 2: to them.
[1:06:47] Speaker 3: He knows, he believes me. Sure, he knows.
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: So he's always said things to them, whether he gets
[1:06:54] Speaker 2: an answer or not. But after that, the next night
[1:06:58] Speaker 2: we saw them, because there was a month period where
[1:07:01] Speaker 2: they came every night and.
[1:07:03] Speaker 3: They sat with us.
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: And there was one particular night it was my birthday,
[1:07:12] Speaker 2: and I said to you know God then before I.
[1:07:15] Speaker 3: Said, it's gonna be my birthday tomorrow, you better come.
[1:07:19] Speaker 2: So I in the middle of the later in the night,
[1:07:23] Speaker 2: they come, and I hear, I don't hear.
[1:07:27] Speaker 3: I feel they're there, and I turn around.
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: There they are.
[1:07:31] Speaker 3: I get up, I go.
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: Sit on the edge of the gully and I'm just
[1:07:36] Speaker 2: watching them. I'm asking questions. They're answering some in gestures.
[1:07:45] Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is I said, where
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: is your mate? And he moved to the left of him,
[1:07:55] Speaker 2: right next to another set of eyes, and she was
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: beside him. And then I had said to him, where
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: is your baby? Because I knew the hand of baby.
[1:08:06] Speaker 2: I seen it climbing up and down the tree, and
[1:08:09] Speaker 2: not his eyes, not his body. I mean, I couldn't
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: see in the dark, but I could see the eyes
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: moving up and down the tree, not far up, just
[1:08:20] Speaker 2: a little bit, and then he'd come back down and
[1:08:23] Speaker 2: I he scooped down and picked up the baby, and
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, you could see two big
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: eyes with and he must have been holding it up
[1:08:36] Speaker 2: near his head because you could see these two little,
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: teeny tiny eyes on the side of them, right up
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: like almost to his shoulders, almost, and I could see
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: the baby grabbing his face because one of his eyes
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: would disappear and then it would become And I said, okay,
[1:08:57] Speaker 2: I would love to see that baby. And as soon
[1:09:00] Speaker 2: as I said that, he started walking towards me, and
[1:09:04] Speaker 2: he came up the gully and he got bigger and
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: bigger and bigger.
[1:09:11] Speaker 3: And my pulse.
[1:09:14] Speaker 2: Was just through the roof, and he all of a
[1:09:19] Speaker 2: sudden stopped, and I knew that he knew that I
[1:09:23] Speaker 2: was having a problem here, and I just said to him,
[1:09:26] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I do really want to see the baby,
[1:09:30] Speaker 2: I said, but I can't.
[1:09:33] Speaker 3: I can't, You're too big.
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: And he backed up and floated away. And that was
[1:09:44] Speaker 2: that night. When I went to bed, they shared his
[1:09:50] Speaker 2: mate's name, were attempted to and It was the same
[1:09:55] Speaker 2: way that I got guy's name. And her name is
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: oda Alie. You can't make this up. I've never heard
[1:10:06] Speaker 2: that name before in my life, but that's what they
[1:10:08] Speaker 2: showed me, the same way that the letters floating. And
[1:10:13] Speaker 2: then I knew her name, and soon I would learn
[1:10:18] Speaker 2: that she wears the pants in the house.
[1:10:22] Speaker 3: But it took me a while to.
[1:10:25] Speaker 2: Acknowledge, you know, because it was always good night Kai,
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: good night Kai.
[1:10:29] Speaker 3: Now it was like gad night Kai.
[1:10:31] Speaker 2: And I go to all agenite babies and we wouldn't
[1:10:36] Speaker 2: always remember to say good night to her, and I
[1:10:42] Speaker 2: think it kind of ticked her off because I would
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: leave under structure. I would leave them little gifts once
[1:10:50] Speaker 2: in a while, like Park rinds or Circus peanuts or
[1:10:57] Speaker 2: just little things that I stick on the nubby branches,
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: just sort of like going to Costcos and getting a sample,
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: not anything big.
[1:11:05] Speaker 3: Never a full meal, just a snack.
[1:11:09] Speaker 2: And she refused, I can until I talked to her,
[1:11:16] Speaker 2: because I'd always say, hey, Kai, I.
[1:11:18] Speaker 3: Left stuff for your kids.
[1:11:20] Speaker 2: It's on that the structure and it wouldn't be touched,
[1:11:23] Speaker 2: and it wouldn't be touched and wouldn't be touched one day,
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: I said, now, little Allie, if you don't mind, I've
[1:11:31] Speaker 2: left things for your kids on the structure, and I'm
[1:11:38] Speaker 2: hoping that they enjoy it. The next thing I know,
[1:11:40] Speaker 2: they it's gone. They's good, But they apparently I need
[1:11:47] Speaker 2: to tell her. I don't know, but I've left them
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: certain things. They've left me a couple of things. And
[1:11:58] Speaker 2: they've stacked rocks around my yard too. And it's just
[1:12:04] Speaker 2: like I have some gardens with rocks and around them
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: in and they stack them.
[1:12:11] Speaker 3: I don't know why.
[1:12:13] Speaker 1: How how high are the rock stacks.
[1:12:18] Speaker 2: Like three or four high? Not big, They're just uh,
[1:12:23] Speaker 2: they just like to put them in a stack. And
[1:12:28] Speaker 2: it's not all the time. Sometimes I'll get the little
[1:12:33] Speaker 2: piles of rocks in front of my pantry.
[1:12:40] Speaker 3: Who would put that there? It just appears there.
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes there are things that just don't make any sense.
[1:12:48] Speaker 3: How did that get there? Why is that like that?
[1:12:51] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:12:53] Speaker 2: I don't know why they do the things they do.
[1:12:56] Speaker 2: There is no idea. I did have a I did have.
[1:13:00] Speaker 3: Company here one time, and.
[1:13:03] Speaker 2: I told her about the big Foot, and this is
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: when they were really active, and I said to her,
[1:13:10] Speaker 2: they come sometimes when we have fires, and she's like, yeah, okay.
[1:13:15] Speaker 3: So she says, well, let's have a fire and see
[1:13:16] Speaker 3: if they'll come.
[1:13:18] Speaker 2: All right, So we're she's sitting closest to the pantry,
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: I'm in the middle, and then Steep on the other side,
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: and we're just sitting in front of the fire. Kai
[1:13:29] Speaker 2: comes up behind the pantry snacks it.
[1:13:31] Speaker 3: So hard that it vibrates to us and Jordan run
[1:13:37] Speaker 3: jumps up. She's like, what was that.
[1:13:40] Speaker 2: I said, that's Kai giving you a big welcome to
[1:13:43] Speaker 2: the neighborhood. And then she says, we're still sitting out there,
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: and she says in her mind to Kai something and
[1:13:54] Speaker 2: she jumps up and screams again, and I said what
[1:13:59] Speaker 2: she goes. I just asked him if, if that was him,
[1:14:02] Speaker 2: if he could give me another sign? And the porcelac
[1:14:04] Speaker 2: comes on and I said, wow, how many more signs
[1:14:08] Speaker 2: do you need? Right?
[1:14:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when it comes to, how many more signs
[1:14:13] Speaker 1: do you need? That? That is it? And so this
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: friend of yours was initiating mind speak at the area
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: and got an immediate response that's wild. Yeah, oh my goodness.
[1:14:25] Speaker 1: That Actually that answered one of the questions I was
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: going to ask eventually, is if there are other people
[1:14:31] Speaker 1: that have experienced things on this property between besides you
[1:14:35] Speaker 1: and Steve. And it sounds like there's at least one
[1:14:37] Speaker 1: other person that has experienced stuff.
[1:14:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one other.
[1:14:42] Speaker 1: Wow.
[1:14:43] Speaker 2: I mean Steve gets more stuff now, Steve, Oh my goodness.
[1:14:49] Speaker 3: Steve was sitting outside.
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: This is only a few months ago, and he was
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: just sitting there by himself.
[1:14:56] Speaker 3: Outside in the dark. Papa and I a cigar, and
[1:15:02] Speaker 3: he heard gibbery jabbery.
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: Talk and somebody walking behind him and he he's like,
[1:15:13] Speaker 2: I can't even explain what I heard. And I played
[1:15:15] Speaker 2: him the Sierra sounds and he's hair stied up on
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: his arms. He's like, that's exactly what I heard. So
[1:15:21] Speaker 2: they do they do talk like that.
[1:15:25] Speaker 3: I mean, that is he heard it. I didn't hear that.
[1:15:28] Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't They they don't always make noise
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: when they walk.
[1:15:33] Speaker 3: I don't know how they.
[1:15:34] Speaker 2: Do it, but there's there's times that they don't care,
[1:15:40] Speaker 2: and that was one of the times. So they're just
[1:15:42] Speaker 2: strolling through the neighborhood over here, and uh. And they
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: have a lot I have a lot of activity in
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: my little gully and it's not vague, but they'd like to.
[1:15:51] Speaker 3: Hang out down there, and he.
[1:15:55] Speaker 2: Heard that and he said after they passed, he came
[1:15:57] Speaker 2: in the house. He says, they were just here.
[1:16:01] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this. By
[1:16:03] Speaker 1: the way you guys are handling this, But have you
[1:16:05] Speaker 1: ever had any researchers come out and try to see
[1:16:09] Speaker 1: what's going on?
[1:16:12] Speaker 3: No?
[1:16:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they recommend you.
[1:16:17] Speaker 3: No, I don't.
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: I don't.
[1:16:19] Speaker 3: I mean, it's their life. I don't want to invade.
[1:16:23] Speaker 2: And they're willing to share certain things with me and
[1:16:26] Speaker 2: interact with me, that's cool, but I don't want to
[1:16:30] Speaker 2: publicize them. I wrote the story because they were okay
[1:16:35] Speaker 2: with it.
[1:16:37] Speaker 3: You know, I've read them.
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: I had.
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: I started writing my journal entries and then I started
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: giving them to Leslie to read on Crypto Canada and
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: they were okay with listening to them on there. So
[1:16:52] Speaker 2: I knew that they were fine with me telling the story.
[1:16:56] Speaker 1: Okay, okay, gotcha. So there was That's that. How you
[1:17:00] Speaker 1: knew is when you would then play those episodes on
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: YouTube and then they would react and you're like, okay,
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: this is okay for it to be out there.
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: Then yeah, no, they they to me feel okay with it.
[1:17:16] Speaker 2: They're not okay with me taking their picture. I have
[1:17:19] Speaker 2: tried to get footage of them in the gully and
[1:17:25] Speaker 2: you could see them plane as day and why wouldn't
[1:17:27] Speaker 2: the video camera pick it up? But they have control
[1:17:31] Speaker 2: over those eyes.
[1:17:32] Speaker 3: I don't know what they do.
[1:17:33] Speaker 2: But when I put that video camera down there, I
[1:17:36] Speaker 2: can't see it through.
[1:17:37] Speaker 3: The video.
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: When so I would assume there have been times when
[1:17:43] Speaker 1: you've tried to get footage and then it just doesn't work.
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: But is there something else that appears? Is it like
[1:17:50] Speaker 1: is there like is blurry or or anything like that?
[1:17:54] Speaker 3: Sometimes?
[1:17:55] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had a Well yeah, we haven't got
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: it there yet, so I'm not going to go there.
[1:18:10] Speaker 3: But I have.
[1:18:10] Speaker 2: I have been very honest with what I'm doing because
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: I'm not trying to exploit them.
[1:18:17] Speaker 3: Do you want want me to can? I? Can? I
[1:18:20] Speaker 3: do it?
[1:18:21] Speaker 2: Because my family thinks I'm insane and they just can't
[1:18:26] Speaker 2: wrap their head around it.
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:18:28] Speaker 2: And it's a lot to wrap your head around it,
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: I mean, especially me coming out with these stories and
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, okay, okay, Sis.
[1:18:40] Speaker 1: Have they been out there though yet? Though?
[1:18:43] Speaker 3: No?
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, well there you go.
[1:18:45] Speaker 2: Right, No, they were in Massachusetts, so right, Yeah, they're
[1:18:51] Speaker 2: not coming out here, so I go home once in
[1:18:56] Speaker 2: a while. But yeah, they make theyke copy noises. They
[1:19:04] Speaker 2: make noises like like you heard the pig, they make
[1:19:08] Speaker 2: the owl, they make cows, and honest to god, they
[1:19:17] Speaker 2: make baby elephants.
[1:19:20] Speaker 1: I've heard that before. I've heard people describe that it's
[1:19:23] Speaker 1: like half elephant, half like lion tiger roar.
[1:19:30] Speaker 3: Yeah. No, this was definitely a little trumpet noise. And
[1:19:33] Speaker 3: I was sleeping.
[1:19:34] Speaker 2: They woke me up doing this and I I said,
[1:19:39] Speaker 2: what is that? So of course that instantly wakes you up.
[1:19:43] Speaker 2: And I'm listening and I hear it again and I'm like,
[1:19:46] Speaker 2: that sounds like a baby out sad. And then it
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: occurs to me that it's them, and I said, if
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: that's you, can you do it again? Here it comes again,
[1:19:59] Speaker 2: and I was like, that's pretty cool.
[1:20:01] Speaker 3: Good job.
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: But we have heard some very scary screams over here.
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: There is When we first got here, we didn't we
[1:20:13] Speaker 2: thought the cows were sick or something. They would be
[1:20:16] Speaker 2: a long, moaning cow noise with a scream at the
[1:20:22] Speaker 2: end of it, and it was like, Steve, maybe we
[1:20:25] Speaker 2: should go look something's wrong with the cow.
[1:20:30] Speaker 3: And one night we were coming in and we heard this.
[1:20:39] Speaker 3: I'll tell you those noises were hard to describe.
[1:20:42] Speaker 2: It was a loud, low moan.
[1:20:49] Speaker 3: Yell, very strange. Steve says to me he probably about
[1:20:55] Speaker 3: a mile away and was super loud. And I see.
[1:20:58] Speaker 2: He says, you think that's high, and I said, I
[1:21:01] Speaker 2: don't know. I said, I can try to ask him.
[1:21:04] Speaker 2: So I'm like, hi, is that you? And I get
[1:21:09] Speaker 2: in bed. I'm laying there and my vision buzzes away
[1:21:14] Speaker 2: and I am in the woods.
[1:21:17] Speaker 3: I'm on a cliff.
[1:21:19] Speaker 2: And I'm looking down into a valley kind of thing,
[1:21:24] Speaker 2: and there's a turkey stumbling around in the night and
[1:21:30] Speaker 2: I'm looking at it and I'm like, I'm in it again.
[1:21:35] Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I got to stay longer this time.
[1:21:41] Speaker 2: And I'm it was just he's hunting. He's hunting, and
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my goodness. And he jumps off of
[1:21:51] Speaker 2: this cliff to go down to the bottom, and I
[1:21:57] Speaker 2: put a leg up to go with him because I'm like,
[1:22:00] Speaker 2: I'm staying. As soon as I did, I woke, the
[1:22:04] Speaker 2: vision was gone, but it was the coolest thing, and
[1:22:11] Speaker 2: I was I was like, Steve, that was him. You're
[1:22:13] Speaker 2: not going to believe this, and then I told him, wow, but.
[1:22:19] Speaker 3: I was like it was I was so in it.
[1:22:23] Speaker 3: I was right there with him, and I'm like, that's this.
[1:22:28] Speaker 3: I don't know how to stay longer, to absorb to.
[1:22:34] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:22:37] Speaker 2: It's some of the things they show me are super cool.
[1:22:41] Speaker 2: The night of my birthday, I was walking back to
[1:22:47] Speaker 2: the bed and my vision clouded there while I'm walking
[1:22:52] Speaker 2: and it's dark and I'm seeing in night vision and
[1:22:55] Speaker 2: I'm seeing the gully and I can see everywhere again,
[1:23:00] Speaker 2: and he says to me, if you want to meet me,
[1:23:04] Speaker 2: come down here, and Jeremiah, the fear came back. I
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: wanted to meet him so bad. I was so afraid.
[1:23:17] Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I want to meet you, big guy,
[1:23:19] Speaker 2: but I'm still afraid. I said, I am going to
[1:23:22] Speaker 2: need a lot of camming entergies if I'm going to
[1:23:24] Speaker 2: see you.
[1:23:25] Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. I can't. I can't do it.
[1:23:31] Speaker 2: So I did not go down there because in my
[1:23:33] Speaker 2: mind I've always envisioned Steve being with me when I
[1:23:36] Speaker 2: saw them, and they didn't want it that way.
[1:23:41] Speaker 3: That's not the way it happened.
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: Why do you think they wanted you without Steve I
[1:23:48] Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, that's I.
[1:23:51] Speaker 2: Don't I don't know if it's because I have, you know,
[1:23:54] Speaker 2: the sensitivity, don't. I don't know if that's it, or
[1:23:59] Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder this myself. I mean, I've
[1:24:04] Speaker 2: got theories, but I don't know.
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like they're trying to separate you guys.
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: Sometimes I talk to people and it is blatantly obvious
[1:24:14] Speaker 1: that they're trying to separate people on the property and
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: get people alone. But this doesn't sound really negative.
[1:24:24] Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you know.
[1:24:26] Speaker 2: I mean we've had our own, you know, as of now,
[1:24:29] Speaker 2: we've had our own experiences. And just recently, Steve came in.
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: I went out to go give the dogs some water,
[1:24:38] Speaker 2: and when he came, he came running back in and
[1:24:44] Speaker 2: his face is white, and I said, what's wrong.
[1:24:47] Speaker 3: He goes, I heard a pop and they started laughing.
[1:24:50] Speaker 3: I said, you heard a pop? He goes, Now, he said,
[1:24:54] Speaker 3: this was echoy pop, like right next to me. He said,
[1:25:02] Speaker 3: I felt like there was something on top of any
[1:25:04] Speaker 3: kind of thing. It was.
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: It was right there, like it was in my ear.
[1:25:10] Speaker 2: And he can't lying in And I don't know if
[1:25:13] Speaker 2: they do that just to screw with them. They're always
[1:25:18] Speaker 2: I think, trying to mess with Steve because they think
[1:25:20] Speaker 2: it's funny, and I can I can feel when they
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: think it's funny. But I'm trying to think if there's
[1:25:32] Speaker 2: anything else WU are weird that in a second that
[1:25:39] Speaker 2: we uh have not talked about yet. I mean, I
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: have so many more stories, but I'm.
[1:25:48] Speaker 1: Trying to get it sounds like it happens all the time,
[1:25:51] Speaker 1: and so you're saying like this stuff is happening up
[1:25:53] Speaker 1: to current day.
[1:25:54] Speaker 3: It sounds like, yeah, stuff still happens.
[1:25:58] Speaker 2: It's not like it was because since then we have
[1:26:02] Speaker 2: We were in a tent and then we moved into
[1:26:07] Speaker 2: the cabin and now we have a tiny house which
[1:26:12] Speaker 2: you know has a is a house now, so we're
[1:26:15] Speaker 2: in in somewhere, so it's not.
[1:26:22] Speaker 3: The whole situation is different. We don't go sit outside.
[1:26:25] Speaker 3: We sit on the porch, you know, so there's not
[1:26:29] Speaker 3: the same opportunities. I mean, they can still spy on
[1:26:32] Speaker 3: us that they want to. There's plenty of the woods round.
[1:26:35] Speaker 2: But you know, I really thought when I moved into
[1:26:37] Speaker 2: the big house because we don't curtains, that they were
[1:26:40] Speaker 2: going to be peaking. But I have not seen them
[1:26:45] Speaker 2: peak and if they do, we're sleeping. I have not
[1:26:48] Speaker 2: seen signs of them anywhere in that sense. Now, I
[1:26:55] Speaker 2: did have just recently, we had a pile of bricks
[1:27:01] Speaker 2: that were stabbed in a certain area and they were
[1:27:04] Speaker 2: dragged into the middle of the cart road, like probably
[1:27:09] Speaker 2: one hundred pounds of breaks.
[1:27:10] Speaker 1: Wow.
[1:27:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why. You know, sometimes I just
[1:27:17] Speaker 3: go why why did you do that?
[1:27:20] Speaker 2: And we did see some some footage prints there nothing
[1:27:26] Speaker 2: too right home to mom about, but and I have
[1:27:30] Speaker 2: I have some some weird pictures, but to me it
[1:27:36] Speaker 2: doesn't look like the ones that are going around the internet,
[1:27:40] Speaker 2: so I never show them to anybody and just document.
[1:27:43] Speaker 1: Kind of Sandy, I think you're doing one of the
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: most important things that people can do in this situation,
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: which is that you're keeping a journal. And that is
[1:27:54] Speaker 1: one of the most important things that a person can
[1:27:56] Speaker 1: do because you're able to look back on that journal,
[1:28:00] Speaker 1: were able to make connections that you probably would have
[1:28:02] Speaker 1: forgotten about most people would have forgotten about, And that
[1:28:05] Speaker 1: is just such the important thing to do. And I'm
[1:28:09] Speaker 1: glad that you're doing. And I led to your book,
[1:28:12] Speaker 1: you know, My Journey with a big Foot named Kai,
[1:28:14] Speaker 1: which is incredible.
[1:28:15] Speaker 2: You know, most of that is in chronological order of
[1:28:21] Speaker 2: how it all happened.
[1:28:22] Speaker 3: And of course, you know, it's a book, so there's
[1:28:25] Speaker 3: some stories in there about our living off grade stuff.
[1:28:28] Speaker 3: Oh sure, but there's also lots of.
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: You know, thought in there because it's it's like I
[1:28:37] Speaker 2: did think I was going insane, and I thought I
[1:28:39] Speaker 2: was going crazy, and it was definitely things happening that
[1:28:44] Speaker 2: I just didn't understand.
[1:28:47] Speaker 3: I had a few dreams from them. I had one.
[1:28:55] Speaker 2: That I saw in my dream the chicken coop and
[1:29:01] Speaker 2: a raccoon that was being drop kicked away from it.
[1:29:07] Speaker 1: Drop kicked.
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Yeah, raccoon was being drop kicked by them.
[1:29:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were keeping them away from the chickens.
[1:29:16] Speaker 2: And I didn't realize that it was a warning they
[1:29:24] Speaker 2: were warning me. It wasn't but a few days later
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: that the raccoon got in the chicken coop and killed
[1:29:30] Speaker 2: my favorite chicken.
[1:29:31] Speaker 1: Oh my m sorry sorry, yeah.
[1:29:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very sad. But they do, I see,
[1:29:42] Speaker 2: but I don't know what they're telling me. Sometimes they
[1:29:45] Speaker 2: sent me a vision. One time I had no clue
[1:29:49] Speaker 2: what it meant. They sent me a clue of my dumpster.
[1:29:53] Speaker 2: We had this Lincoln log dumpster that we made, and
[1:29:58] Speaker 2: from the Lincoln log dumpster coming three eggs at me, floating, floating,
[1:30:05] Speaker 2: three eggs at me.
[1:30:07] Speaker 3: And of course I wake.
[1:30:08] Speaker 2: Up in the middle of these floating eggs, and I'm like,
[1:30:11] Speaker 2: what does that mean? Do you want three eggs? I
[1:30:14] Speaker 2: didn't get it, and I mean, I put three eggs
[1:30:17] Speaker 2: on the dumpster. I thought, maybe, yes, what they want.
[1:30:21] Speaker 2: I put the eggs out there, and they didn't touch them.
[1:30:24] Speaker 2: And I have a lady that has interactions with Bigfoot,
[1:30:28] Speaker 2: and she told me that what I think is happening
[1:30:34] Speaker 2: over there.
[1:30:35] Speaker 3: She says, what I think is what they're trying to
[1:30:38] Speaker 3: tell you is.
[1:30:39] Speaker 2: That when you made your dumpster, you know, I would
[1:30:45] Speaker 2: that there must have been a nest that perished in
[1:30:51] Speaker 2: the tree, you know, like you cut it down, the
[1:30:53] Speaker 2: eggs died, little birds whatever. And I said, I said,
[1:30:58] Speaker 2: you know, it's really funny. I said, we did find
[1:31:00] Speaker 2: one nest. I said, but we didn't see anything in it.
[1:31:04] Speaker 2: And so I said, the eggs went flying, we killed,
[1:31:07] Speaker 2: the eggs were murders. And she said, oh no, She said,
[1:31:13] Speaker 2: take a pinch of to not go and go out
[1:31:17] Speaker 2: there and sprinkle it on the dumpster, she said, and
[1:31:24] Speaker 2: ask for your forgiveness. Just said that you're sorry and.
[1:31:28] Speaker 3: That you you you didn't mean to do this, and
[1:31:31] Speaker 3: that we're setting you free kind of thing.
[1:31:34] Speaker 2: I guess, well, I said that, Oh okay, so I
[1:31:39] Speaker 2: did that, and I never got a vision like that again.
[1:31:43] Speaker 2: So I think whatever I did appease them. And but
[1:31:48] Speaker 2: it makes me wonder different things.
[1:31:50] Speaker 3: You know, It's like, okay, but you guys eat eggs.
[1:31:55] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:31:58] Speaker 2: But there's a lot a lot of more questions sometimes
[1:32:01] Speaker 2: than there is an answer.
[1:32:02] Speaker 1: Oh, that's really what it comes down to. But it
[1:32:05] Speaker 1: feels like you guys have the right mindset, the right intentions,
[1:32:08] Speaker 1: and you're going about living on a property with a
[1:32:14] Speaker 1: family like this the right way and you're trying to
[1:32:16] Speaker 1: learn through it and communication and it's just it's a
[1:32:20] Speaker 1: really really amazing account. And Sandy, I know there's there's
[1:32:25] Speaker 1: going to be other things that happen, and you know,
[1:32:28] Speaker 1: I would love to keep up to date with you.
[1:32:32] Speaker 1: There is a thing though, as you know, I'm going
[1:32:37] Speaker 1: through the cancer thing, and I do have an appointment
[1:32:40] Speaker 1: coming up today. So it is at the point where
[1:32:44] Speaker 1: you know, maybe we'll we'll do do a pause for
[1:32:48] Speaker 1: now and perhaps check in later in the future if
[1:32:52] Speaker 1: you would be up for it, because this is a
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: this is one of the most fascinating accounts I've I've heard,
[1:32:58] Speaker 1: and you know, I'll have the link to your book
[1:33:00] Speaker 1: in the description so people can can read it.
[1:33:07] Speaker 3: Encounter Jeremiah, Oh my.
[1:33:08] Speaker 1: Gosh, are you kidding me?
[1:33:10] Speaker 2: Oh?
[1:33:13] Speaker 3: You can pause it.
[1:33:16] Speaker 2: Again later.
[1:33:17] Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, do you mind if we I didn't even
[1:33:20] Speaker 1: realize none of that is what you encounter considered the encounter.
[1:33:25] Speaker 3: I actually saw them.
[1:33:27] Speaker 1: Goodness, Okay, we totally got Can we set up a
[1:33:31] Speaker 1: part two for this? I apologize. I just it's a
[1:33:36] Speaker 1: really important appointment and you know what it is, all
[1:33:39] Speaker 1: that stuff. Okay, so this is this is the craziest
[1:33:44] Speaker 1: cliffhangarut that I've ever had to do. So we will
[1:33:47] Speaker 1: set up a part two and then get you back
[1:33:50] Speaker 1: on as soon as we can and that works with
[1:33:53] Speaker 1: your schedule and go.
[1:33:56] Speaker 3: Okay, Sandy, yeah, when you feel better, Jeremiah.
[1:33:59] Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely, thank you so much.
[1:34:02] Speaker 3: You're welcome. See ya.
[1:34:06] Speaker 1: Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
[1:34:09] Speaker 1: directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're
[1:34:12] Speaker 1: in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've
[1:34:16] Speaker 1: seen something that no one can explain, or if you're
[1:34:19] Speaker 1: a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told
[1:34:22] Speaker 1: to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something
[1:34:25] Speaker 1: strange down on the ground, or if you're with the
[1:34:29] Speaker 1: FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled
[1:34:32] Speaker 1: upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if
[1:34:35] Speaker 1: you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's
[1:34:39] Speaker 1: heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If
[1:34:43] Speaker 1: you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,
[1:34:46] Speaker 1: or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something
[1:34:50] Speaker 1: happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're
[1:34:53] Speaker 1: a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to to report.
[1:35:01] Speaker 1: If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a
[1:35:03] Speaker 1: spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,
[1:35:07] Speaker 1: or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or
[1:35:11] Speaker 1: anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,
[1:35:15] Speaker 1: then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous,
[1:35:21] Speaker 1: you can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
[1:35:24] Speaker 1: The world needs to hear what you've been forced to
[1:35:27] Speaker 1: carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,
[1:35:33] Speaker 1: We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank
[1:35:37] Speaker 1: you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.
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