# We Were Attacked on the Lake: A Daylight Bigfoot Encounter in Michigan

An episode of [Bigfoot Society](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1453429066), 17 Feb 2026, 1 h 08 min.

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In this episode, we explore the extraordinary experiences of Rob from Michigan, known to many as Bigfoot Michigan Rob. Rob shares a detailed firsthand account of a daylight encounter that took place on the waters near Cadillac, Michigan, deep within the Manistee National Forest. What began as a quiet outing quickly unfolded into a series of unsettling events involving unexplained activity from the shoreline and a powerful presence emerging from the forest itself. As Rob recounts the encounter, he reflects on the physical sensations, emotional weight, and lasting impact it had on his life. The conversation expands beyond a single event, touching on the broader pattern of sightings, sounds, and reports connected to the region, including stories shared with him by other witnesses across Michigan. Rob also discusses how this experience reshaped his path and led him to create a platform for others who have lived through similar moments. Join us as we navigate Rob’s compelling account, the mysterious history of Michigan’s forests, and the profound effects these encounters leave behind for those who experience them. Resources: https://www.youtube.com/c/BigfootMichiganRob BMR's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Rob-Karnafel/author/B0CFBCSR48 Contact Rob here: beyondbmr@gmail.com 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect • Instagram: @bigfootsociety • Twitter: @bigfoot_society • TikTok: @bigfoot.society 🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: • Beam (Better Sleep): Try Beam • Wildgrain (Better Bread): Join Here • Seed (Probiotics): Get Seed • Medi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More • LMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT • Organic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS 🎙️ Podcasting Tools: • Repurpose.io: Try It • Descript: Sign Up • Streamyard: Start Recording • Riverside.fm: Try Riverside 🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
[0:03] Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
[0:05] Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
[0:08] Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
[0:12] Speaker 1: quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
[0:16] Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
[0:20] Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
[0:24] Speaker 1: To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
[0:27] Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
[0:30] Speaker 1: So stay with us, all I Bigfa Society. You've got
[0:32] Speaker 1: the privilege of talking to Bigfoot Michigan Rob today as
[0:35] Speaker 1: we were just talking off air. It's an interview that
[0:39] Speaker 1: probably should have happened a few years ago. Both of
[0:41] Speaker 1: us are so busy and we had just crazy stuff
[0:45] Speaker 1: going on. But I'm glad to have you on the
[0:46] Speaker 1: show right now.
[0:48] Speaker 2: Rob.
[0:48] Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir?
[0:50] Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I'm trying to stay warm, you know.
[0:53] Speaker 2: As we said backstage, plumbing boom went out unexpected Bill,
[1:01] Speaker 2: and I must tell you I sold my snowblower five
[1:04] Speaker 2: years ago because believe it or not where I live
[1:06] Speaker 2: in Michigan. I'm in the southeastern part of Michigan. In
[1:10] Speaker 2: the last five years here am I we haven't even
[1:12] Speaker 2: had white Christmases. It snows maybe five inches in the
[1:15] Speaker 2: last five years. And so I said, you know, I'm
[1:18] Speaker 2: gonna sell sell my snowblower. This year is the year
[1:24] Speaker 2: where I regredit it, because now I'm breaking my back
[1:28] Speaker 2: every third day, it seems, because we got snow all
[1:32] Speaker 2: over the place.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yeah, Iowa was very fortunate. We were
[1:38] Speaker 1: just like right above that line kind of and the
[1:42] Speaker 1: rest of the US just got demolished. But yeah, yeah,
[1:46] Speaker 1: this year, Iowa kind of squeaked by. But listeners, you
[1:49] Speaker 1: might also know Rob from his YouTube channel if you
[1:52] Speaker 1: just search for Bigfoot Michigan Rob. He's got all sorts
[1:54] Speaker 1: of great, great shows out there. And then of course
[1:57] Speaker 1: he's got a great book series, which is Bigfoot Michigan.
[2:01] Speaker 1: Rob presents True Cryptids, True Cryptis Encounters Book one and two,
[2:06] Speaker 1: and I've been I'm reading through the first one right now.
[2:09] Speaker 1: It's a great read. There's a great collection of not
[2:13] Speaker 1: just Bigfoot stuff, but I mean, you got dog man stuff,
[2:16] Speaker 1: you got stuff from Michigan. You got stuff from Oregon.
[2:18] Speaker 1: It's from all over the place. It's a great reason.
[2:20] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. Yeah, it took a
[2:22] Speaker 1: while to compulate. It was I started my channel and yeah, it's.
[2:28] Speaker 2: Yeah. I started getting these emails and I started calling
[2:31] Speaker 2: these people and interviewing them. Some have been on my show,
[2:34] Speaker 2: but most had not. So I said, you know, what
[2:37] Speaker 2: am I to do with all these stories? Sure, I
[2:39] Speaker 2: put a lot of them on YouTube, and I'm like,
[2:41] Speaker 2: I think I'm going to put it into a book,
[2:44] Speaker 2: you know. So I contacted the folks to make sure
[2:46] Speaker 2: it was cool, this, that and the other, and yeah,
[2:50] Speaker 2: and it's kind of I'm pretty happy with it because
[2:55] Speaker 2: you know, I know we're going to get into it
[2:56] Speaker 2: a little bit later. And the only reason I did
[2:58] Speaker 2: that is because people that have these experiences, no matter what,
[3:04] Speaker 2: you know, they don't want to come forward and like me,
[3:07] Speaker 2: which you'll find out a little bit later, I was
[3:09] Speaker 2: lost and alone, ridicule judge and I'm like, I felt, yeah,
[3:16] Speaker 2: you know, I didn't like that feeling. And a lot
[3:19] Speaker 2: of people want things to share in anonymity, right, but
[3:23] Speaker 2: they it's like therapy. It was for me when I
[3:27] Speaker 2: first came forward and said, this is what happened to me,
[3:31] Speaker 2: and I said, you know, I don't want other people
[3:33] Speaker 2: to feel that way. So I have a safe place
[3:35] Speaker 2: to come to, whether it's on the channel or in
[3:37] Speaker 2: the book or whatever. So that's kind of my way
[3:41] Speaker 2: of giving back to I never had the opportunity because
[3:46] Speaker 2: something was taken from me. Is you'll find out throughout
[3:49] Speaker 2: today's show. The only reason I started doing my channel
[3:53] Speaker 2: was because you give an opportunity for individuals to get
[3:59] Speaker 2: it off their chess, to feel that they weren't alone.
[4:01] Speaker 2: In fact, on the back of the back cover of
[4:04] Speaker 2: my books and an introduction, there's a snippet in there
[4:09] Speaker 2: that says, this is for those that no longer have
[4:11] Speaker 2: to walk alone, and you don't have to feel judge
[4:15] Speaker 2: because so many people out there, no matter how the
[4:20] Speaker 2: encounter plays out, whether it's believable not believable, it's something
[4:25] Speaker 2: that happened to them, and we did not walk in
[4:28] Speaker 2: their shoes. So that was my giving back to what
[4:32] Speaker 2: I never had, So that always stuck with me. My
[4:37] Speaker 2: channel is more about helping. Sure, it's entertaining and I
[4:39] Speaker 2: love doing it, but there's a purpose, in a mission
[4:43] Speaker 2: behind it, and that's to let people know that you're
[4:46] Speaker 2: not alone.
[4:47] Speaker 1: I love that that is is very very cool, and
[4:50] Speaker 1: it's it's very close to what I've laid out for
[4:58] Speaker 1: my channel. The difference, I believe is you're not So
[5:05] Speaker 1: would you say I'm curious about this because I'm more
[5:11] Speaker 1: one hundred percent focused on bigfoot and I get like
[5:14] Speaker 1: just bigfoot stuff. But you're getting more than just bigfoot
[5:18] Speaker 1: stuff in your emails.
[5:20] Speaker 2: I will tell you this. I am. And here's the
[5:22] Speaker 2: thing about this, and even guests on the shows. It's
[5:25] Speaker 2: like when I first started. Okay, it's Bigfoot Mission. Rob
[5:28] Speaker 2: is the name of the channel because when I first
[5:33] Speaker 2: decided to make a YouTube, not even a channel. I
[5:37] Speaker 2: told my story many years ago in twenty eighteen on YouTube.
[5:41] Speaker 2: It was suggested to me there's good therapy. So Rob,
[5:45] Speaker 2: you don't have a channel, but he set up a
[5:46] Speaker 2: YouTube and has put it out there, and so I
[5:50] Speaker 2: had no idea what I was doing. I did not
[5:53] Speaker 2: even know, Jeremiah that YouTube had shows, chat rooms. I
[5:58] Speaker 2: used YouTube man to watch music, That's all I did.
[6:02] Speaker 2: I didn't go on YouTube how to bake a cake,
[6:04] Speaker 2: how to fix a flat. I had no idea that
[6:06] Speaker 2: there was shows and in these downloads and documentations, right,
[6:12] Speaker 2: and so okay, my very first video I did, I
[6:16] Speaker 2: had no clue what I was doing. I mean it
[6:18] Speaker 2: was very grainy and very uh. I did that and
[6:23] Speaker 2: in three days, man, I had thirty five hundred views
[6:29] Speaker 2: and I got a lot of positive feedback, and I said, Wow,
[6:34] Speaker 2: this is something else. So I said, maybe I can
[6:38] Speaker 2: turn this into something right, because people just reached out,
[6:42] Speaker 2: and a lot of people that lived in Cadillac, Michigan,
[6:46] Speaker 2: which is where my encounter took place at. Rob, Yes,
[6:50] Speaker 2: I believe you because we've heard similar things. So go
[6:55] Speaker 2: back to your original question, Bigfoot Michigan. Rob evolved because well,
[6:59] Speaker 2: I'm my name is Rob. I live in Michigan. I
[7:03] Speaker 2: saw Bigfoot, Bigfoot mission of Rob evolved, but unknowingly to me,
[7:12] Speaker 2: it went down a whole different rabbit hole. The dog man,
[7:17] Speaker 2: the paranormal, the alien, the UFO, and I started getting
[7:22] Speaker 2: flooded with all sorts of phenomenon which blew my mind.
[7:27] Speaker 2: I'm like, I know nothing about uithology, you know, I
[7:30] Speaker 2: know nothing about this, that and the other, the paranormal,
[7:34] Speaker 2: and so it kind of evolved and then I said, man,
[7:37] Speaker 2: I got to change my channel name because now I
[7:39] Speaker 2: just don't do bigfoot anymore. I do everything and then
[7:42] Speaker 2: all my audience. So I put out a poll, should
[7:44] Speaker 2: I change my channel name? No, Rob, keep it at that.
[7:47] Speaker 2: And then after a while it was like, I'm not
[7:49] Speaker 2: going to bother is. Most people know now that it's
[7:52] Speaker 2: just not bigfoot and eccentric because to me, I don't
[7:57] Speaker 2: know what your thought is all this phenomenon, all of
[8:00] Speaker 2: it cryptis and otherwise to me it's related. There's a
[8:05] Speaker 2: commonality between all of this stuff.
[8:09] Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I agree with you one hundred percent.
[8:12] Speaker 1: And once you get opened up, So most witnesses I
[8:17] Speaker 1: talked to, I would say more than one hundred percent.
[8:19] Speaker 1: Probably once they are they have this interaction with a bigfoot,
[8:25] Speaker 1: then you can almost bet on it they're going to
[8:28] Speaker 1: have other stuff happen. It's like every time you can
[8:32] Speaker 1: almost like put a have a bingo chart in front
[8:35] Speaker 1: of you and be like, oh, yep, there's now the
[8:37] Speaker 1: weird stuff that starts happening at home, or it's just
[8:40] Speaker 1: it's very weird how it all relates together. And but
[8:45] Speaker 1: but Rob, you know, I think, do you mind sharing
[8:50] Speaker 1: what you experienced that that bigfoot encounter, that kind of
[8:54] Speaker 1: you know, made all this occur for you and what
[8:59] Speaker 1: happened to you back.
[8:59] Speaker 2: In the day. No, I'd love to, and I'll preface
[9:03] Speaker 2: everything by saying for your audience, when I was growing up,
[9:09] Speaker 2: my dad brought me and my brother up on two
[9:11] Speaker 2: things that he had was passionate about. One was sports
[9:15] Speaker 2: and the other was monster movies. So at a very
[9:18] Speaker 2: young age, I was introduced to the Black and White
[9:20] Speaker 2: Bella Lagosi, Dracula, Lawn Cheney, The Wolfman, Boris, Karla Frankenstein,
[9:29] Speaker 2: and then of course the sports world. And so I
[9:32] Speaker 2: fell in love with monsters. And then later on in life,
[9:36] Speaker 2: I saw the Patterson Gimmlin film and then I saw
[9:39] Speaker 2: Leonard Nimoy in search of about Bigfoot. I'm like, wow,
[9:44] Speaker 2: I think this yeah, and I'm open minded. I'm like, yeah,
[9:48] Speaker 2: it's a possibility. I'm a I think maybe this exists.
[9:54] Speaker 2: But prior to my Bigfoot experience, I kind of I
[9:58] Speaker 2: realized this today and I did not read realize this
[10:01] Speaker 2: when I was a young man, young little boy, young man.
[10:05] Speaker 2: I had seen ghosts in my lifetime growing up, and
[10:08] Speaker 2: now I know her for a fact, we're ghosts that
[10:10] Speaker 2: I can say that I seen a ufo. My mom
[10:14] Speaker 2: pointed out, I saw a UFO with my mother when
[10:19] Speaker 2: I was married. You know, I saw shadow people with
[10:22] Speaker 2: my wife, very freaking and strange things. But what pulled
[10:26] Speaker 2: it all together and made me realize that, yes, there's
[10:31] Speaker 2: something to all of this is when I did have
[10:34] Speaker 2: my bigfoot encounter. And of course I had this after
[10:38] Speaker 2: I was married. I got married in my early twenties,
[10:41] Speaker 2: end up getting divorced, and so I had this girlfriend
[10:44] Speaker 2: of mine who name was Cindy, and I wanted to
[10:47] Speaker 2: surprise her and take her to a Cadillac Michigan. Now
[10:52] Speaker 2: Cadillac Michigan sits in the Manistee National Forest. It's in
[10:56] Speaker 2: Wexford County and as I found out later on after
[11:00] Speaker 2: investigating all this after this experience, Wexford County is number one,
[11:05] Speaker 2: the alleged capital of dog Man, and there's been numerous
[11:10] Speaker 2: Bigfoot encounters in Wexford, particularly the Mannistone National Forest, which
[11:16] Speaker 2: is I've really dived into this forest, I found out
[11:21] Speaker 2: later on. There's a lot of sections of the forest
[11:25] Speaker 2: and the forest is huge. It encompasses Lake Michigan to
[11:30] Speaker 2: Lake here On, about three hours north of me, and
[11:33] Speaker 2: it's just a vast forest. There's suggested curses put on
[11:40] Speaker 2: the land by First Nations when the Europeans the white
[11:43] Speaker 2: Man took over the land and pillaged the Indian folks.
[11:47] Speaker 2: It was just all these things, right, and all this
[11:50] Speaker 2: weird phenomena which I found out later. So anyway, going
[11:54] Speaker 2: back to the story my encounter, this is where it
[11:57] Speaker 2: takes place. Vntacy National Forest, Wexford, Michigan, Cadillac. So I
[12:01] Speaker 2: call it. My girlfriend Cindy did not live with me
[12:04] Speaker 2: at the time. You know, we were you know, boyfriend girlfriend.
[12:06] Speaker 2: I said, look, I want to take you to Cadillac, Michigan.
[12:09] Speaker 2: Here's what we're going to do. Yes, I want to
[12:12] Speaker 2: do some fishing because I want to introduce you to
[12:15] Speaker 2: the outdoors because I am an outdoorsman. I used to
[12:17] Speaker 2: hike a lot and just enjoy mother nature. She's like,
[12:21] Speaker 2: really fishing, I said, yes, But Cadillac is very quaint.
[12:25] Speaker 2: There's a lot of little small it's a smaller town
[12:28] Speaker 2: things for us both to do, antique shops. Yes, you'll
[12:32] Speaker 2: have fun, but you know, let's do something. So as
[12:36] Speaker 2: it turned out, I had a friend that was involved
[12:38] Speaker 2: in real estate and he had this house you had
[12:41] Speaker 2: up for sale, and he said, and I was talking.
[12:43] Speaker 2: He says, hey, man, I'll let you. I'll let you
[12:46] Speaker 2: use the house for the weekend. I'm like, oh cool.
[12:49] Speaker 2: And then he said, I know a place where you
[12:50] Speaker 2: can rent a small little skiff type boat and go
[12:53] Speaker 2: out fishing and explore the lake. I'm like cool. So
[12:57] Speaker 2: I get there and I remember these days, dikly. This
[13:01] Speaker 2: was June fifteenth of twenty eighteen, not on the weekend.
[13:05] Speaker 2: So when I get there, it's kind of everyone's at work, this,
[13:08] Speaker 2: that and the other. And I always like to paint
[13:11] Speaker 2: the picture of this story. So Cindy and I get there,
[13:14] Speaker 2: we get the little skiff, we got the nice little cabin.
[13:18] Speaker 2: We had a nice place to stay. And this day
[13:22] Speaker 2: was it was a beautiful day. It was blue skies,
[13:28] Speaker 2: sun was out in the forest, emerald green. It was
[13:31] Speaker 2: a beautiful day. And it's always important that I tell
[13:34] Speaker 2: people the description of how vibrant the day was. Cindy
[13:42] Speaker 2: and I we get out about ten o'clock in the morning,
[13:45] Speaker 2: and we're on Lake Cadillac. Now Lake Cadillac is pretty
[13:50] Speaker 2: nicely built up. Back during this time, there's a variety
[13:53] Speaker 2: of homes, million dollar homes. Two hundred thousand dollars homes,
[13:58] Speaker 2: very diverse, small mama pop businesses and small industries along
[14:04] Speaker 2: the lake. So you can see this. And so we're
[14:07] Speaker 2: out fishing. After about an hour, Cindy is getting bored.
[14:12] Speaker 2: I'm frankly, we're not catching anything. So I said, well,
[14:16] Speaker 2: let's do some exploring. Let's you know, let's real the
[14:19] Speaker 2: lines and let's just you know, take this little skiff
[14:21] Speaker 2: and drive around the wake. We're checking out the scenery.
[14:25] Speaker 2: Then I come across this canal or a channel, which
[14:31] Speaker 2: led to an adjacent lake called Lake Mitchell. Now Lake
[14:35] Speaker 2: Mitchell not as built up around the shore line as
[14:39] Speaker 2: much as Lake Cadillac, but there were homes there, yes,
[14:43] Speaker 2: but it backed up. The backdrop was the Manistee National Force.
[14:47] Speaker 2: It's there and the forest drops right into the shoreline
[14:53] Speaker 2: and Cindy I noticed it might be a little bit
[14:55] Speaker 2: bigger than Lake Cadillac, to be honest with you. And
[14:59] Speaker 2: so we're like, wow, this is beautiful. So we're taking
[15:01] Speaker 2: in the scenery and then I found a spot in
[15:04] Speaker 2: a cove which is called Mitchell Cove, and I said,
[15:09] Speaker 2: this is the spot we're going to catch some fish.
[15:11] Speaker 2: So I slowed down the trolling motor very slowly. I'm
[15:15] Speaker 2: drifting ninety feet from shore. Per Apps and I get
[15:20] Speaker 2: to change debait on their fishing rod and reels. So
[15:26] Speaker 2: Cindy's kind of gazing out into the scenery and I'm
[15:28] Speaker 2: down there, not paying any attention. And she says, hey, Rob,
[15:33] Speaker 2: I think somebody's throwing rocks at the boat. I'm like, what, really,
[15:36] Speaker 2: I don't hear anything. And I looked at the shore line.
[15:39] Speaker 2: There's nothing. I said, it's probably just some fish jumping around.
[15:43] Speaker 2: We got a great area. She goes, yeah, maybe, okay.
[15:48] Speaker 2: Sixty seconds later, Rob, someone's throwing rocks at the boat.
[15:51] Speaker 2: I just seen a rock fly from the tree line.
[15:55] Speaker 2: I'm like, Cindy, okay. I looked at the shoreline and
[15:58] Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, there's no wing. I said, honey,
[16:01] Speaker 2: there's nobody there. So she's getting a little perturbed. I said, look, honey,
[16:06] Speaker 2: I'm not saying no one is. But let me finish
[16:08] Speaker 2: what I'm doing. Get the bait and tackle together, and
[16:11] Speaker 2: you and I can both together observe fine, fine rock.
[16:17] Speaker 2: So I'm doing. I'm looking down into the boat, and
[16:21] Speaker 2: then for whatever the reason, I stop and I look
[16:24] Speaker 2: up and I see something coming out the beautiful blue
[16:27] Speaker 2: sky and it's like a rock about the size of
[16:30] Speaker 2: a baseball. And sure enough, Jeremiah las maybe four feet
[16:34] Speaker 2: in front of our boat, and I go look to
[16:36] Speaker 2: Cindy to kind of apologize, because yes, this was launched
[16:40] Speaker 2: from the tree line. I turned to look at Cindy.
[16:43] Speaker 2: Cindy is standing up at this point on the boat.
[16:46] Speaker 2: And at this time I must mention Cindy was a
[16:50] Speaker 2: sun worshiper, a goddess. She already on June fifteenth, had
[16:54] Speaker 2: a ripping tan head to toe. I'm looking at her.
[16:58] Speaker 2: She's asphyxiated a shoreline. I must tell you that all
[17:02] Speaker 2: the color in her skin was drained. That tan was dull.
[17:09] Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, what was she looking at? And I
[17:12] Speaker 2: looked to the shoreline, and a little clearing there is this,
[17:18] Speaker 2: I always say, nine foot figure standing upright, arms on
[17:23] Speaker 2: the side, covered in beautiful reddish brown hair from head
[17:29] Speaker 2: to toe with the exception of the face. And I
[17:34] Speaker 2: also have to include that this body was robust. It
[17:37] Speaker 2: had it been four feet white. This was the biggest thing,
[17:41] Speaker 2: and yes, thing I'd ever seen in my life. And
[17:47] Speaker 2: people ask, how did you see the face so well?
[17:50] Speaker 2: I said it was humongous. It was easy to see
[17:52] Speaker 2: the head was humongous because I noticed the face. It's gray.
[17:58] Speaker 2: It kind of looked wrinkled, and I know, I said,
[18:00] Speaker 2: it looked like an odd human being. It had like
[18:03] Speaker 2: an offset. The eyes were offset, big bulbous eyes, opaque,
[18:10] Speaker 2: and a gray skin and a great chest. And again
[18:13] Speaker 2: its arms are on the side, and I'm like, holy goo,
[18:18] Speaker 2: I'm trying to process this. I didn't have enough time
[18:21] Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, the arms that were on
[18:24] Speaker 2: its side, it kind of raises like like an airplane
[18:27] Speaker 2: like wings, and all this hair is draping down. But
[18:31] Speaker 2: then it rolls back its head and that gray, grizzly
[18:37] Speaker 2: human looking face got very taut, very tight, almost turned
[18:41] Speaker 2: like a purple color. The eyes roll back black, and
[18:45] Speaker 2: the jaw just stands literally almost like pac Man, right,
[18:49] Speaker 2: remember back in the day. Down a little bit. This
[18:53] Speaker 2: mouth is open. I see two teeth up top and
[18:56] Speaker 2: two on the bottom, and darkness inside the mouth huge.
[18:59] Speaker 2: You could fit a softball in there. And as it
[19:02] Speaker 2: leans back, it left south as a god awful roar,
[19:08] Speaker 2: scream and yell all in unison without moving the lips.
[19:12] Speaker 2: And it was reminded me at this time of a demon.
[19:16] Speaker 2: It looked like something out of a Marvel comic book.
[19:20] Speaker 2: It was scary. When it let out that roar across
[19:28] Speaker 2: the water from the shoreline, I felt the reverberation hit me.
[19:33] Speaker 2: I felt it hit me, shockwave, whatever, and I kind
[19:38] Speaker 2: of take a stumble back. Cidy, all five foot one
[19:43] Speaker 2: and ten pounds, is standing up and she gets flipped
[19:46] Speaker 2: into the water off of the boat. Now, mind you, everybody,
[19:50] Speaker 2: the boat's a skiff. It's maybe six and a half
[19:53] Speaker 2: eight inches out of the water, no more than eight
[19:56] Speaker 2: foot long. It's two people person vessel. She falls into
[20:04] Speaker 2: the water. Yes, she can swim, but of course I
[20:06] Speaker 2: go to help her. Now at this instance, all of
[20:12] Speaker 2: a sudden, That's why I like to say earlier in
[20:15] Speaker 2: this show, in this podcast, I'd like to describe the day,
[20:19] Speaker 2: because here's what happens. All of a sudden, the beautiful
[20:23] Speaker 2: blue sky, the emerald green forest, this reddish prown creature, everything,
[20:30] Speaker 2: And I'm looking through a filter, a grainy filter. The
[20:33] Speaker 2: colors dissipated into like a black and white grain granular film.
[20:42] Speaker 2: Now I try to move to my right to get
[20:45] Speaker 2: Cindy into the boat, I'm paralyzed. I cannot move, I
[20:51] Speaker 2: cannot see correctly, cognizance gone, and I'm just in my head,
[20:58] Speaker 2: shaking in my head, trying to shake. And I had
[21:00] Speaker 2: Rob Rob snap out of this. I have no idea
[21:03] Speaker 2: what's happening to me. All of a sudden, I snap
[21:06] Speaker 2: out of it. The color comes back, and I gained
[21:11] Speaker 2: my cognizance back. Cindy's ready, almost halfway back into the skiff.
[21:17] Speaker 2: I get her in. Then I'm I tell you what
[21:21] Speaker 2: might have been even more terrifying is this. I look
[21:23] Speaker 2: to the shoreline. This creature's gone. I don't know where
[21:27] Speaker 2: it is. Does this swim Is it coming after us?
[21:30] Speaker 2: I don't know who. So I turn that skiff round
[21:36] Speaker 2: and I be lined across Lake Bitchell. I hit that canal,
[21:40] Speaker 2: I hit Lake Cadillac, and I be lined all the
[21:43] Speaker 2: way to shore. Get out, doctor skiff somewhere. Grab Cindy.
[21:49] Speaker 2: At this point, it's maybe twelve twenty in the afternoon.
[21:52] Speaker 2: Cindy's freezing. I try to warm her up. Go up
[21:55] Speaker 2: this little hill in about half block up we see
[21:58] Speaker 2: this bar rest. We walk excuse me, we walk into
[22:07] Speaker 2: it again. It's like the middle of the week not
[22:10] Speaker 2: very crowded. I remember distinctly looking to the right, there's
[22:15] Speaker 2: a couple at the end of the bar sitting there.
[22:17] Speaker 2: I looked to the left, nobody on the left, and
[22:20] Speaker 2: there's boots on the back wall, and I be lying
[22:23] Speaker 2: to the very back far corner with Cindy. We both
[22:28] Speaker 2: sit down across from each other. Cindy's not a drinker.
[22:36] Speaker 2: I owned a bar. Cindy came and visit me all
[22:39] Speaker 2: the time, never seen a drink anything in her life.
[22:42] Speaker 2: The waitress comes up, goes to Cindy, Hi, what you haveing.
[22:46] Speaker 2: Cindy says, I want to bottle a bug light and
[22:49] Speaker 2: shot at Shack Daniels. I'm like, wow, okay. Waitress looks
[22:56] Speaker 2: to me what you have and I said, you know what,
[22:58] Speaker 2: I'll have to say, make mine a double. She leaves.
[23:03] Speaker 2: Sidney are looking at each other. We are not communicating.
[23:07] Speaker 2: We're not even talking, shock processing, whatever's going on. At
[23:14] Speaker 2: this point. Barmaide comes back, puts a bottle but light
[23:18] Speaker 2: in front of Cindy. Shot of Jack. I get two bottles,
[23:21] Speaker 2: a butt light and two shots of Jack. Cindy takes
[23:24] Speaker 2: a shot of Jack and she puts it back like
[23:28] Speaker 2: she's been drinking for fifty years bottle, but leg guzzle's
[23:33] Speaker 2: half the bottle. I do the same. Cindy says to me, Robbie,
[23:40] Speaker 2: what do you think that was? I said, Honey, I
[23:45] Speaker 2: throw the question back at her. I kind of kind
[23:47] Speaker 2: of an idea from my earlier childhood. What do you
[23:53] Speaker 2: think that was? And she says, I think it was
[23:56] Speaker 2: that bigfoot creature minds you. Indian and I during our
[24:01] Speaker 2: relationship never spoke about bigfoot, cryptids, the paranormal nothing. I'm like,
[24:07] Speaker 2: you know what, I think maybe it was. She says
[24:11] Speaker 2: to me, should we call the sheriff the DNN report?
[24:13] Speaker 2: Will we saw? And I says to her, and tell
[24:18] Speaker 2: her exactly what not? Tell her, tell them exactly what
[24:25] Speaker 2: I don't think. So I'm already thinking, yeah, I ain't
[24:29] Speaker 2: gonna believe this right. So she goes, yeah, you're probably right.
[24:34] Speaker 2: So we could not concentrate, and unfortunately the trip was wrecked.
[24:40] Speaker 2: We tried to go into town, but this experience we
[24:45] Speaker 2: had was just weighing on us. Unfortunately, we leave a
[24:50] Speaker 2: couple of days early. Man, I think the next morning
[24:52] Speaker 2: we just went home. As soon as we get home,
[24:57] Speaker 2: we immerse ourselves on the internet type it in Bigfoot,
[25:03] Speaker 2: type it in demons. Then I go on YouTube and
[25:07] Speaker 2: never really use it. And I started typing Bigfoot and
[25:11] Speaker 2: watching videos that were pulling up. And we did this
[25:15] Speaker 2: for a long time, and you know, nothing really satisfied
[25:20] Speaker 2: what I was looking for. The creature I saw kind
[25:22] Speaker 2: of didn't look like what I was seeing in images.
[25:26] Speaker 2: And I discovered some YouTube shows, podcasts, but nothing. It
[25:31] Speaker 2: doesn't seem right. So I'm trying to reach out to people,
[25:35] Speaker 2: and I'm a novice. I don't know any connections in
[25:38] Speaker 2: this field. So again, Cindy didn't live with me. She
[25:45] Speaker 2: lived with her mother. Now. Her mother, I have to
[25:48] Speaker 2: tell you, did not like me, did not like me
[25:51] Speaker 2: at all. The mother thought I was a demon. She
[25:55] Speaker 2: was very religious Italian background, owned a bar. Therefore I
[26:01] Speaker 2: was a demon. Yeah, it was bad. She despised me.
[26:05] Speaker 2: She did so. As I mentioned earlier, June fifteenth of
[26:11] Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, we had this encounter together. I get a
[26:16] Speaker 2: call the morning of August fifteenth, twenty eighteenth, from her
[26:23] Speaker 2: mom and I'm like her mouse calling me, this is weird. Hello, Oh,
[26:31] Speaker 2: this is Cindy's mom. I'm like, yeah, I just want
[26:37] Speaker 2: to let you know Cindy died of a heart attack
[26:39] Speaker 2: this morning, and she goes and I blame you. She
[26:43] Speaker 2: wasn't quite right when she came back from that little trip.
[26:47] Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you talking about? Sydney was a
[26:51] Speaker 2: heart attack? I don't believe that. Is this a silly prank. No,
[26:57] Speaker 2: you're not invited to the funeral. If you show up,
[26:59] Speaker 2: I'm going to have you thrown out. Sure enough, she
[27:05] Speaker 2: passed away. Jeremiah, I go, I find out where the
[27:09] Speaker 2: funeral is. I go there and yeah, I was escorted
[27:13] Speaker 2: out of there. Never had the closure, never said goodbye, dude.
[27:23] Speaker 2: Oh man, I gotta tell you. So. I went a deep,
[27:29] Speaker 2: dark place. Man, I had no closure with my girlfriend.
[27:32] Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. Anyway. I immersed myself deeper
[27:49] Speaker 2: to subject right, but I'm not getting answers right. And
[27:54] Speaker 2: I went in a dark place. People didn't believe me.
[27:58] Speaker 2: They were calling me making things up. It was terrible.
[28:02] Speaker 2: It got so bad that I went to my bar
[28:06] Speaker 2: and I told my manager I have to take a
[28:10] Speaker 2: leave of absence because I don't know going on, Boss,
[28:15] Speaker 2: what's up? What's up? I can't explain it to you, man,
[28:20] Speaker 2: Just hear the keys put the money in the bank.
[28:23] Speaker 2: I trust you, I'll be back when I get back.
[28:25] Speaker 2: I left work, man. I didn't go back to work
[28:27] Speaker 2: for six months because I locked myself in my house
[28:32] Speaker 2: investigating and trying to find people. Didn't find anybody that
[28:37] Speaker 2: would help me. Anybody, man. I was lost. I was alone.
[28:43] Speaker 2: So I'm watching a YouTube video and this guy, Carrie
[28:46] Speaker 2: Arnold big Foot Otyssey, puts his phone on me and
[28:51] Speaker 2: he told his encounter story, which was terrifying. It kind
[28:55] Speaker 2: of reminded me of mine. Like I said, he leaves
[28:58] Speaker 2: his number, call him best phone call I made my life.
[29:04] Speaker 2: He's such a great man and he's passing on now.
[29:07] Speaker 2: As you might know, Rob, you're not going crazy. And
[29:12] Speaker 2: we spoke as total stranger. I happened to catch his
[29:15] Speaker 2: very first video about his encounter. We talked, my friend.
[29:19] Speaker 2: We talked to a stranger man. I remember I called
[29:24] Speaker 2: him about eight o'clock at night. We got off the
[29:27] Speaker 2: phone at midnight, and then later on it suggested you
[29:34] Speaker 2: got to get this out. Then I did that dumb video,
[29:37] Speaker 2: and then you know, then I said, you know what,
[29:40] Speaker 2: I'm starting a channel because I want to help people,
[29:43] Speaker 2: Because I says, you know, I can't help Cindy any longer,
[29:46] Speaker 2: and that's the mystery in itself. So I started doing
[29:48] Speaker 2: this simply to share other people's experiences because I walked
[29:53] Speaker 2: forever alone man in darkness. I got my bar together,
[29:58] Speaker 2: got my senses together, continued out with the bar business.
[30:02] Speaker 2: I got somewhat back to normal. I ended up selling
[30:05] Speaker 2: the bar in twenty twenty, ironically on Thanksgiving when we
[30:09] Speaker 2: had the big you know, pandemic hit, which was fortunate.
[30:14] Speaker 2: And so I've kind of this is what I've been doing,
[30:17] Speaker 2: sharing people's stories, telling mine, having guests on, researchers, witnesses,
[30:23] Speaker 2: because I, for me, I'm giving back to the people.
[30:26] Speaker 2: I'm not doing the fame of fortune. Man. I am
[30:29] Speaker 2: in the spot today where I just want to help
[30:32] Speaker 2: others go through what I went through. And that's what
[30:35] Speaker 2: happened to me.
[30:36] Speaker 1: Bro Rob, I've actually never heard your story before, and
[30:42] Speaker 1: I am just is just heartbreaking to hear. I'm so
[30:48] Speaker 1: sorry that you lost Cindy and that you weren't able
[30:50] Speaker 1: to have that closure. I had no idea. I had
[30:56] Speaker 1: absolutely no idea. My goodness, it's so good to see
[31:00] Speaker 1: you in a good place now though, in helping people.
[31:06] Speaker 2: You know, because I tell you, there's a point, my
[31:08] Speaker 2: point in my life. I didn't I didn't care about
[31:11] Speaker 2: the business. I didn't care about me. I just want
[31:13] Speaker 2: to I just want to figure out what to happen.
[31:17] Speaker 2: And I tell you what, this would have been a
[31:19] Speaker 2: very cool encounter. Frankly because if Cindy didn't pass away,
[31:25] Speaker 2: because when this happened, certainly I was furious with her mom,
[31:31] Speaker 2: but I was furious with myself. I wanted to go back.
[31:34] Speaker 2: I almost called a bunch of my hunting buddies, and
[31:37] Speaker 2: I wanted to go back and hunt this thing and
[31:38] Speaker 2: kill it, see you know, and I that's what I
[31:43] Speaker 2: wanted to do. My first encounter with Bigfoot was crazy.
[31:49] Speaker 2: And even to this day when you have all these
[31:52] Speaker 2: people out there and people get mad at me, but
[31:54] Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me because a lot of people, Jeremiah,
[31:58] Speaker 2: you know this bigfoots to friendly forest, giant, this, that
[32:03] Speaker 2: and the other. And I will tell you this, I
[32:06] Speaker 2: thought the Bigfoot because of the what happened with that,
[32:11] Speaker 2: people say inf sound it was bigger than that. I
[32:14] Speaker 2: don't know. I still don't know what that was. I
[32:17] Speaker 2: thought he killed her. I thought he messed up her body.
[32:19] Speaker 2: I did today. I don't really believe that way, per se.
[32:23] Speaker 2: I don't believe it was a demon either. After I've
[32:26] Speaker 2: been doing this stuff for since twenty eighteen. Really, I've
[32:29] Speaker 2: talked to hundreds and hundreds of people as you have,
[32:32] Speaker 2: so I have a better understanding. But I just I
[32:39] Speaker 2: just thought it was nasty creature. Today, I don't really
[32:42] Speaker 2: think so. I get it, but I'm not going to
[32:48] Speaker 2: let my kids play alone in the forest if there's
[32:50] Speaker 2: a family of bigfoot at my tree line. I'm not.
[32:53] Speaker 2: Some people do I don't. I wouldn't.
[32:57] Speaker 1: Like goodness, yeah, I not do that either. Maybe a
[33:02] Speaker 1: few questions about your actual encounter. How long do you
[33:07] Speaker 1: think that from when you first had the first part
[33:12] Speaker 1: of the sighting to then you're okay, let's get out
[33:16] Speaker 1: of here. Let's we're gonna take the boat out of here.
[33:19] Speaker 1: How long was that?
[33:21] Speaker 2: The funny thing about that, and I forgot to mention this.
[33:24] Speaker 2: I don't know why I slipped my mind when this
[33:26] Speaker 2: all happened, when that roar and that transformation and then
[33:30] Speaker 2: everything's graining, I can't move. It seemed like it'll lasted
[33:34] Speaker 2: an eternity. But I will tell you this, it was
[33:36] Speaker 2: probably no longer than twenty seconds, if I'm just lasting.
[33:41] Speaker 2: But as soon as I look to that short what
[33:43] Speaker 2: I got my cognizance back and Cindy was secured what
[33:48] Speaker 2: I've seen, there was nothing there. It freaked me out,
[33:51] Speaker 2: and so I whipped it around. The question that's odd
[33:56] Speaker 2: is that I can't give you a time frame how
[33:58] Speaker 2: long this all took. Sure, my counter was I think
[34:01] Speaker 2: it was twenty minutes worth of stuff, But the actual
[34:04] Speaker 2: physical seeing it and everything that happened thirty seconds or less.
[34:09] Speaker 2: I'm guessing to this day it's almost like memory. It's
[34:12] Speaker 2: almost like time loss, and it's not you know, yeah, absolutely.
[34:18] Speaker 1: Did you notice if oh, before I asked that, how
[34:22] Speaker 1: far away from it were you guys in the boat.
[34:26] Speaker 2: I always say, I guess tomate ninety feet because I
[34:29] Speaker 2: remember it was kind of like because I had ten
[34:31] Speaker 2: a lot of baseball games, it was kind of like
[34:34] Speaker 2: from first to second base, and people say, man, that
[34:37] Speaker 2: was kind of a distance, but not really. That's why
[34:40] Speaker 2: I always have to tell people something nine foot tall
[34:43] Speaker 2: approximately four wide, that's humongous, and that head was humongous.
[34:47] Speaker 2: I could see it very distinctly. I have a pretty
[34:51] Speaker 2: good vision, and it was yeah, I catched. I caught
[34:55] Speaker 2: every detail.
[34:57] Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean being that close to you definitely would.
[35:01] Speaker 1: Did you notice if its eyes were just all one
[35:04] Speaker 1: color or did they seem to have whites on the
[35:07] Speaker 1: sides of them or.
[35:09] Speaker 2: In the very beginning, as I probably described earlier, that
[35:11] Speaker 2: I seem opaque, you know, of off colored. But then
[35:16] Speaker 2: when it kind of did that when amorphous, I guess
[35:19] Speaker 2: you could call it the eyes roll back dark black. Okay, yeah,
[35:24] Speaker 2: you know. And then and that face turned from that
[35:27] Speaker 2: grungy looking human because it looked very human, but just
[35:31] Speaker 2: a person, not like Neanderthal looking, right, But then it
[35:35] Speaker 2: looked it looked it looked like something totally different, right,
[35:39] Speaker 2: It turned purple. It just looked horribly terrifying.
[35:43] Speaker 1: That's actually something I wanted to to ask you about.
[35:46] Speaker 1: So that's really interesting. So did when you say it
[35:49] Speaker 1: looked purple like the skin turned a shade of purple
[35:54] Speaker 1: or or what do you mean exactly about that?
[35:56] Speaker 2: Well, what happened the grayish in the beginning is I
[35:58] Speaker 2: said it was the grayest, Trusty, it seemed like it
[36:01] Speaker 2: was this old, older person just again, but when he
[36:05] Speaker 2: did that move whatever it did, that skin got very taut.
[36:10] Speaker 2: It was almost reminded me like blood was just rushing
[36:15] Speaker 2: to its head. Okay, yeah, you know it was ready
[36:18] Speaker 2: to explode. And with the yell and the stream, it
[36:23] Speaker 2: was considerably loud. And in fact, here's an interesting thing.
[36:28] Speaker 2: When I first put that out and when I started
[36:31] Speaker 2: years later, well later on telling the story, I've gotten
[36:36] Speaker 2: so many emails about people hearing that roar out in
[36:39] Speaker 2: that area, not seeing what they believe. Something's out there.
[36:45] Speaker 1: No doubt about it. I ask about the purple thing
[36:47] Speaker 1: because I have heard another individual, Actually this is a
[36:55] Speaker 1: Sasquatch summer fest and Oakridge last year, a mother shared
[37:01] Speaker 1: with me about how one of her sons they had
[37:04] Speaker 1: a RV type setup out in the woods and he's like,
[37:09] Speaker 1: I just saw a purple a bigfoot that looked purple.
[37:12] Speaker 1: And at the time, I was like, that's really weird
[37:14] Speaker 1: because I've never heard that. I've talked to hundreds of
[37:16] Speaker 1: people and I've heard someone else say it. I need
[37:19] Speaker 1: to look that up to get the details on that again.
[37:22] Speaker 1: And now you kind of have this detail. It's very
[37:25] Speaker 1: very interesting. Now you kind of alluded to it already,
[37:30] Speaker 1: but you know, I've talked to a few individuals about
[37:35] Speaker 1: this area in Michigan, and there's so much interesting bigfoot
[37:42] Speaker 1: things going on. I mean just in Mesik, Michigan, which
[37:47] Speaker 1: is a little bit northwest.
[37:48] Speaker 2: I talked to.
[37:49] Speaker 1: These guys and they actually call bigfoot in that area
[37:53] Speaker 1: the Marilla Gorilla, which is really interesting. I mean, there's
[37:57] Speaker 1: so much, so many things. And then the dog man
[38:01] Speaker 1: encounter on Tony Merkle's show, yea, you know, the one
[38:05] Speaker 1: I'm talking about that happened in the same forest.
[38:07] Speaker 2: I think.
[38:07] Speaker 1: But you know, after you know, let's say maybe a
[38:11] Speaker 1: few years after this, it sounds like you're starting to
[38:13] Speaker 1: get emails from people that are experiencing the same sounds.
[38:17] Speaker 1: But did you also do a deep dive into Okay,
[38:21] Speaker 1: you know what else is going on? How how much?
[38:24] Speaker 1: How many other bigfoot reports have been seen in this
[38:27] Speaker 1: forest around the area that I had this encounter.
[38:32] Speaker 2: Oh, there's reported I've seen probably like last time I checked,
[38:39] Speaker 2: it's been a while ago. I think in the in
[38:42] Speaker 2: the in the Wexford Mid County which is part of
[38:45] Speaker 2: the county and which is in the Nasty National Forest,
[38:49] Speaker 2: there is like one hundred and nine bigfoot encounters allegedly reported,
[38:56] Speaker 2: and that's an email, they're not all reported. And then
[39:00] Speaker 2: it's funny or interesting that when I, as I mentioned backstage,
[39:06] Speaker 2: it opened up this can of worms or this rabbit
[39:09] Speaker 2: hole from folks that would say about dog Man, about
[39:14] Speaker 2: the enchanted forest, the cursed land, because in nineteen eighty
[39:19] Speaker 2: seven there was a you know, a lot of steam
[39:24] Speaker 2: was brought upon, you know, Linda Goffrey came out of
[39:27] Speaker 2: the Beast of Prey Road, as we all know, got
[39:28] Speaker 2: rest of soul, right. So I started looking into that.
[39:32] Speaker 2: But then it was told to me by several people
[39:34] Speaker 2: that are in the dog man field. I guess you
[39:37] Speaker 2: could call it that wester County is quote unquote the
[39:41] Speaker 2: capital of dog man sightings and also a lot of
[39:45] Speaker 2: bigfoot chunters. There's also a lot of paranormal experiences outside
[39:50] Speaker 2: of these things. And I just happened to think that
[39:54] Speaker 2: this is somewhat related because I know and I study
[39:57] Speaker 2: the Manistee National Forest, let me tell you, and the
[40:00] Speaker 2: first dog man account and a lot of this goes
[40:03] Speaker 2: back to Dogman Paris, Michigan nineteen thirty seven was the
[40:08] Speaker 2: first actual creature that they coined a dog man. Before
[40:12] Speaker 2: eighty seven, when it's all kind of in Michigan. It
[40:15] Speaker 2: broke loose. In eighty seven, there was a radio guy
[40:19] Speaker 2: that made a jingle about the dog man. You know,
[40:22] Speaker 2: I think we've all heard that story before, which was
[40:25] Speaker 2: started out as a joke. But when people heard that,
[40:29] Speaker 2: they said, no, no, no, no, that is no Joe. There
[40:32] Speaker 2: are things out there. I guy on my show, Jody Cook,
[40:38] Speaker 2: he's a dog man guy. But he found came across
[40:42] Speaker 2: and seen a bigfoot in Wexford County. He had seen
[40:46] Speaker 2: the dog man in Wexford County. And I will tell
[40:49] Speaker 2: you the state of Michigan. You know, we always hear
[40:52] Speaker 2: about the Pacific Northwest, which is you know, we always
[40:55] Speaker 2: hear those stories. But where I live, about three hundred
[41:00] Speaker 2: miles north of me two hundred, that's a prime area
[41:05] Speaker 2: if you're a researcher. I don't call myself a researcher.
[41:08] Speaker 2: I do out in the woods and investigate things by
[41:11] Speaker 2: more of this. I'm more about the guy that tells
[41:13] Speaker 2: everyone else's story. You know, That's what I do. But
[41:19] Speaker 2: in my state of Michigan, and I'm not even including
[41:22] Speaker 2: me a peninsula, there's a lot of cryptid activity. I
[41:27] Speaker 2: like to say cryptid because there's both you know what
[41:30] Speaker 2: I'm saying, and it's very fascinating. And then of course
[41:35] Speaker 2: we're surrounded by these haunted lighthouses and all these other
[41:41] Speaker 2: mysteries of the woods that to me, it all kind
[41:45] Speaker 2: of blends together. I'm learning this the more I do this.
[41:52] Speaker 2: But yes, back to your original question, Yeah, there's a hundred.
[41:57] Speaker 2: You know, I think there is probably in my state alone,
[42:00] Speaker 2: maybe three or four hundred of them throughout the years.
[42:02] Speaker 2: From and again reports you can't rely on the reports
[42:05] Speaker 2: as much, but from people that have told me. I've
[42:08] Speaker 2: had probably fifty people in the last four years. Yes,
[42:12] Speaker 2: they've seen Bigfoot in these areas. They've seen dog Man
[42:15] Speaker 2: in these areas. Rob, you are not crazy, you you
[42:19] Speaker 2: you're onto it. There is something out there and and
[42:25] Speaker 2: so yes, so it's opened up that rabbit hole, that
[42:28] Speaker 2: proverbial rabbit hole, which is why I love doing what
[42:32] Speaker 2: I do today, because it's such a mystery that I
[42:36] Speaker 2: just find it fascinating. And in retrospect, I never thought
[42:44] Speaker 2: i'd be a back of a mic man. You know.
[42:47] Speaker 2: It's just weird how your path and life changes. Because
[42:50] Speaker 2: the path in my life has changed because of this.
[42:55] Speaker 1: Oh same one hundred. It's crazy you to think about. Yeah,
[43:03] Speaker 1: it really is. Yeah, that just that took that took
[43:11] Speaker 1: me back for a bit to think about it. Really
[43:14] Speaker 1: it changed, It changed so much, entire family tree from
[43:18] Speaker 1: here on out. Yeah, Rob, You've talked to so many
[43:25] Speaker 1: people over the years, and you know on your show
[43:27] Speaker 1: and through email, and is there maybe one or two
[43:34] Speaker 1: accounts that people have told you that uh, were shared
[43:39] Speaker 1: with you, that that really stick out, that were You're like, Wow,
[43:44] Speaker 1: I feel really privileged to be a part of this
[43:47] Speaker 1: person's story by them telling me.
[43:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's several. Two always set me right off
[43:54] Speaker 2: the bat and again and one is in Michigan and
[43:59] Speaker 2: I on this story, I was talking to this man.
[44:01] Speaker 2: I interviewed him like on the stream Yard thing, and
[44:05] Speaker 2: he sent an email and said, I got to call
[44:07] Speaker 2: this guy. I got a hold of this guy. And
[44:11] Speaker 2: so he lives in the upper Peninsula of Michigan, keeping
[44:14] Speaker 2: it in Michigan and the Porcumine, the Porcupine Mountains, and
[44:22] Speaker 2: it is such a fascinating and this guy is there.
[44:25] Speaker 2: He told me, Rob, I'm a bigfoot research You're reaching
[44:28] Speaker 2: out to you this, that and the other and very
[44:33] Speaker 2: very invested into the research. But never came across anything.
[44:37] Speaker 2: He found some prints, the typical the print the X
[44:41] Speaker 2: you know, the X structures. We all hear about this,
[44:45] Speaker 2: that and the other. And one day he was driving
[44:47] Speaker 2: me down the freeway or the inter or the interstate
[44:50] Speaker 2: up north, and he thought, wow, this looks it looks
[44:53] Speaker 2: like a great idea, a great spot to go investigate.
[44:57] Speaker 2: So he pulls his jeep or truck off on the
[44:59] Speaker 2: side of the He's walking down the tree line and
[45:03] Speaker 2: it was very dense and he can't get in, but
[45:05] Speaker 2: he sees this small opening and he goes inside this.
[45:09] Speaker 2: He says, Rob's mill of day. I go inside and
[45:13] Speaker 2: it was almost like an above ground tunnel. The way
[45:15] Speaker 2: the trees were formed, it was like an arch. And
[45:20] Speaker 2: as he's proceeding in this above ground alleged tunnel of trees,
[45:28] Speaker 2: he pulls out his machete. He can start getting dance
[45:30] Speaker 2: and he's cutting away, cutting away and opening up this pathway.
[45:34] Speaker 2: And then he said to me, he says, Rob, I
[45:38] Speaker 2: got this feeling that I should turn around. He got
[45:43] Speaker 2: that instinct, Rob, you know what I did. I turned
[45:46] Speaker 2: around and I left. And he goes, that's unlike me.
[45:51] Speaker 2: So he says, I pondered this for several days, a
[45:54] Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Why did I What made me turn around?
[45:57] Speaker 2: This is what I do. He goes back, finds the spot.
[46:02] Speaker 2: Took him a minute to find the location because very
[46:05] Speaker 2: the average guy can't. You can't pick it out. I mean,
[46:08] Speaker 2: it's just just a tree line. Right, finds his area,
[46:12] Speaker 2: and he proceeds further in this path and he's going forward.
[46:16] Speaker 2: Guy's machete, he's hacking away. Bennett opens up and he says,
[46:21] Speaker 2: the trees kind of hovered low. Maybe he had to
[46:24] Speaker 2: start ducking down. It was like five foot So he's
[46:26] Speaker 2: ducking down. Then as he's walking, he notices he's getting
[46:31] Speaker 2: closer and closer than All of a sudden, he smells
[46:37] Speaker 2: something rotting. And again, even though it's a bright sunny day,
[46:42] Speaker 2: it's very dark in there. In fact, he said he
[46:45] Speaker 2: forgot his flashlight. He didn't think he need one. Then
[46:49] Speaker 2: he trips over something. He falls to the ground and
[46:53] Speaker 2: he's covered in blood. Then he realizes he tripped over
[46:58] Speaker 2: dead a freshly dead car of a deer. Okay, so
[47:04] Speaker 2: he doesn't he doesn't want, he says, Rob, I did
[47:07] Speaker 2: not want to turn around, so I just proceeded further
[47:11] Speaker 2: past this deer. Then ahead he sees that opening a
[47:16] Speaker 2: light ahead where the tunnel of the trees, the tunnel
[47:19] Speaker 2: of trees was ending. Then all of a sudden, in
[47:23] Speaker 2: the back of him, he hears something walking, but not
[47:28] Speaker 2: walking by petally, because again this is only like maybe
[47:31] Speaker 2: five foot in depth. And he says, I'm a five
[47:34] Speaker 2: foot eight guy, so I was crouched down. But he
[47:37] Speaker 2: hears something in the back of him, and he's like,
[47:41] Speaker 2: oh no, and he thinks that maybe he stumbled into
[47:44] Speaker 2: a bear down and that was the bear's kill. Continues on.
[47:51] Speaker 2: Now he sees his tunnel the light and he says, yeah,
[47:53] Speaker 2: I gotta continue on toward the light. But then he says,
[47:56] Speaker 2: rob for whatever reason, I've got to look over my shoulder. Now,
[48:00] Speaker 2: he says what he looks over is and he sees
[48:02] Speaker 2: this in his shadows. He doesn't see a creature standing up,
[48:07] Speaker 2: but he sees something that was walking like a big spider.
[48:10] Speaker 2: He thinks, what isn't the Porcupine mountains and he thinks
[48:15] Speaker 2: what he's looking at is a humongous spider. He says
[48:19] Speaker 2: that the tunnel of trees, the width of it was
[48:23] Speaker 2: maybe six feet five and a half six feet, but
[48:25] Speaker 2: he can see like arms extended out crawling and they
[48:30] Speaker 2: pretty much was the width of this tunnel of trees.
[48:33] Speaker 2: He's like, what is this a spider? He's thinking, what
[48:37] Speaker 2: it ain't no bear. So this guy and I was terrified,
[48:42] Speaker 2: and he's he's not running because he knows about the
[48:45] Speaker 2: predatorial instinct. You're run, you're done. And he continues forward,
[48:50] Speaker 2: getting closer to the light. Then he finally breaks out
[48:54] Speaker 2: into this meadow, this pasture. It's maybe one hundred yards
[48:59] Speaker 2: in depth, and at the other end of the pastures
[49:01] Speaker 2: another a tree line, another set of woods. So he
[49:06] Speaker 2: kind of picks up his step a little bit, but
[49:10] Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he says, role I have to stop.
[49:12] Speaker 2: I have to look over my shoulder. He goes, what
[49:17] Speaker 2: I saw when I looked over my shoulder was not
[49:19] Speaker 2: a gigantic spider, which is what he was envisioning. He says,
[49:24] Speaker 2: it was a tall and he says he thinks it
[49:26] Speaker 2: was a bigfoot. It was tall and standing there looking
[49:32] Speaker 2: at him, and he turns his head around and he
[49:36] Speaker 2: continues to walk. He's not chased. It doesn't pursue him,
[49:41] Speaker 2: does not look back over his shoulder. He's still terrified.
[49:47] Speaker 2: He gets to the tree line. Now he says, man,
[49:49] Speaker 2: where am I? I'm lost? I don't know how to
[49:51] Speaker 2: get back. I'm not going back that way because his
[49:54] Speaker 2: entire navigation system in his mind is blown. Don't know
[49:59] Speaker 2: if he had or anything like that. So he gets
[50:04] Speaker 2: into the woodline, he finds this natural trail, follows the
[50:08] Speaker 2: trail to the freeway. He's like, man, oh, where's my vehicle.
[50:13] Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm at. So a semi truck,
[50:17] Speaker 2: a big a semi got a semi driver, and this
[50:19] Speaker 2: was a logging country. It was a logging vehicle, right,
[50:24] Speaker 2: And the guy you know pulls the thumb hey tries
[50:27] Speaker 2: to flag him out. So the man in the vehicle
[50:28] Speaker 2: stops and he looks at this guy, and this guy
[50:32] Speaker 2: forgets he fell into He fell into the dead carcass
[50:36] Speaker 2: of the deer. And this guy doesn't even realize it,
[50:39] Speaker 2: but his clothes are covered in blood. And this guy
[50:44] Speaker 2: kind of looks at him. You in trouble year? Should
[50:49] Speaker 2: I trust you? What's going? He goes, No, I was
[50:53] Speaker 2: back in the woods. I fell into a dead deer carcass.
[50:56] Speaker 2: This is a deer bud. I don't know where I'm at.
[50:59] Speaker 2: I'm lost, I got I got scared. He doesn't really
[51:02] Speaker 2: mention the other thing that what had led to his
[51:06] Speaker 2: terrify being terrified. He goes, Okay, get out here, and
[51:09] Speaker 2: where's your vehicle? He goes, I think he told him
[51:12] Speaker 2: the highway road that he remembered. He goes, Oh, I
[51:14] Speaker 2: know where that is. It's about check this out. He goes,
[51:17] Speaker 2: it's about a twenty five minute ride. And this guy's like, really,
[51:23] Speaker 2: that's how far off of course I am, which I
[51:26] Speaker 2: found that to be bizarre. So these guys are chit chatty,
[51:31] Speaker 2: and this truck driver's senses that this guy this more
[51:34] Speaker 2: to this guy's story other than the deer. He goes, look, pale,
[51:38] Speaker 2: you tell me I've been I lived in the Porcupine Mountains.
[51:41] Speaker 2: I've seen it all. Tell me this something happened. Tell
[51:45] Speaker 2: me you're with a friend. I'm not. I trust you. Guys, well,
[51:49] Speaker 2: you're not going to believe this. I told the story.
[51:52] Speaker 2: And this guy looks at him and he says, oh,
[51:56] Speaker 2: I believe you. He goes, what do you mean that
[51:59] Speaker 2: was sasquatch? You saw sasquatch. They're all over here, that's
[52:04] Speaker 2: what you saw the guy kind of thought that he
[52:08] Speaker 2: did after a while, because you know, we've all heard
[52:10] Speaker 2: about the sasquatch too, the spider crawl. You ever get
[52:12] Speaker 2: stories or forts? Yeah, oh yeah. So so the man
[52:18] Speaker 2: they finally find his vehicle, thanks him. He goes, hey,
[52:23] Speaker 2: good luck they're there. They're a sasquatch, just that, and
[52:25] Speaker 2: the other he goes, good luck to you in your future.
[52:28] Speaker 2: And they parted ways and he says, Rob, that was
[52:31] Speaker 2: my experience. And I drove home, and he goes he
[52:35] Speaker 2: hasn't gone back yet because he just was frazzled, you know,
[52:43] Speaker 2: because people don't understand when you see something. Okay, you're
[52:46] Speaker 2: a bigfoot researcher and you believe in bigfoot, but it
[52:50] Speaker 2: doesn't matter until you physically see something like this. You
[52:56] Speaker 2: cannot process this stuff. I could process mice experience, so
[53:01] Speaker 2: I can see where you might have a change of
[53:03] Speaker 2: tune in attitude.
[53:05] Speaker 1: Right, Oh my goodness. That is that is an intense story.
[53:09] Speaker 1: And that's uh. Is that one that you can listen
[53:12] Speaker 1: to on on your channel as well.
[53:14] Speaker 2: That's in the book. That's in books. I don't know
[53:16] Speaker 2: if you got through the book yet. That's in the
[53:17] Speaker 2: one one or book one or two. It's in there,
[53:20] Speaker 2: Porcupine Mountain, Bigfoot or something.
[53:22] Speaker 1: Okay.
[53:24] Speaker 2: I went to Missouri in September. My group did the
[53:29] Speaker 2: Crossing and Revels conference. Yeah, some incredible stories from people.
[53:33] Speaker 2: It's so funny, you know, it's cool. I mean, it's
[53:37] Speaker 2: so surreal because I set up camp, I brought my books,
[53:40] Speaker 2: and I gotta tell you, you don't think that people
[53:44] Speaker 2: follow you. It's just so amazing to meet people. I've
[53:48] Speaker 2: been following your show forever. You're awesome. I got your books.
[53:51] Speaker 2: People brought their book to the conference for me to sign,
[53:56] Speaker 2: and I got two pretty incredible stories, you know, from people.
[54:00] Speaker 2: Well here, I gotta tell you the story. An amazing event.
[54:03] Speaker 2: And the people in this environment, they're so nice, A
[54:12] Speaker 2: lot of them are. You know. We always hear about
[54:13] Speaker 2: the deck Stad and all the bs that I don't
[54:16] Speaker 2: want to talk about, but there are so many genuine
[54:18] Speaker 2: people that they're just bulging to tell you their story,
[54:22] Speaker 2: you know. And yeah, and I picked up some stories
[54:25] Speaker 2: which I haven't shared yet, but amazing things. I got
[54:29] Speaker 2: a story from a guy to saw a werewolf, as
[54:31] Speaker 2: he said, but he says, well, I probably was a
[54:33] Speaker 2: dog man picking apples off of this family's orchard tree
[54:37] Speaker 2: and eating them and staring at the guy. Wow, you know,
[54:42] Speaker 2: I mean, just some amazing things. Amazing. I'm a believer,
[54:47] Speaker 2: first of all, I'm a no or not a believer.
[54:49] Speaker 2: I've seen what I've seen. But it's just so funny
[54:53] Speaker 2: that people just don't believe in this stuff. And I
[54:55] Speaker 2: guess I get it, but man, it goes on every
[54:58] Speaker 2: day in our backyards.
[55:01] Speaker 1: Literally literally depending where you're at. And I know, like,
[55:06] Speaker 1: so when you say you're southeast Michigan, is that that
[55:11] Speaker 1: is that over north of Detroit or south of like
[55:15] Speaker 1: the area.
[55:16] Speaker 2: I am south of Detroit. I'm close to the Detroit River,
[55:20] Speaker 2: which doesn't run too far from here. So when I
[55:22] Speaker 2: say southeast, it's like Bluefield Hills wind out in the downriver. Yeah,
[55:29] Speaker 2: we're just I'm just I'm twenty minutes from downtown Detroit
[55:32] Speaker 2: on the freeway.
[55:33] Speaker 1: Oh wow. In that area was extremely I mean it
[55:36] Speaker 1: had that big thing that was in Monroe. I think
[55:38] Speaker 1: that happened the last year, right, there.
[55:41] Speaker 2: Was a bigfoot counter in Monroe. Well, a husband, a
[55:44] Speaker 2: man and a sun seeing this bigfoot crawl out of
[55:50] Speaker 2: a creek covered in mud and run up a hill. Yeah,
[55:55] Speaker 2: that was a Monroe, Michigan. In fact, Monroe, Michigan, there's
[55:58] Speaker 2: bout four or five there. There's another one in Mirue,
[56:03] Speaker 2: Michigan called the River Raisin, which actually runs to a
[56:08] Speaker 2: huge golf course, and there's been alleged bigfoot reports there
[56:13] Speaker 2: as well. And believe it or not, allegedly there was
[56:19] Speaker 2: a bigfoot spotted in downtown Detroit in a McDonald's going
[56:24] Speaker 2: through the dumpster. I believe it, you know, I mean crazy.
[56:29] Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why, because I've also talked to
[56:33] Speaker 1: a gentleman about a bigfoot encounter he had in Detroit,
[56:39] Speaker 1: and that gentleman was violent j from ICP. I was
[56:43] Speaker 1: able to interview him a few years ago, and he
[56:47] Speaker 1: has a wild bigfoot encounter in the middle of Detroit.
[56:50] Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think it's out of the question
[56:53] Speaker 1: that stuff is even happening in that city.
[56:55] Speaker 2: It is, And I will tell you this and the
[56:57] Speaker 2: things about Detroit I've heard. Okay, here's the thing. Detroit
[57:00] Speaker 2: is humongously big at the inner city and a lot
[57:04] Speaker 2: of it runs along the Detroit River, and there's a
[57:07] Speaker 2: wildlife and there's there's forests. I mean when I say forests,
[57:11] Speaker 2: not like you're thinking, is there's that's woods, right, they're
[57:14] Speaker 2: not even named a national park or state park, but
[57:17] Speaker 2: it's woods. And as the more, when I started really
[57:21] Speaker 2: diving into researching this stuff, Bigfoot is travels among the waterways,
[57:28] Speaker 2: you know, the interstate, the what you call the power
[57:33] Speaker 2: lines in the woods, right, I mean railroad tracks that
[57:38] Speaker 2: go on and on and on, and parts of Detroit,
[57:42] Speaker 2: you know, it's lined by the Detroit River, and there's
[57:45] Speaker 2: so many abandoned buildings that people, the police don't even
[57:51] Speaker 2: go into. You don't even know what's back there because
[57:54] Speaker 2: I can very easily see them coming out from the
[57:57] Speaker 2: waterway of the river, the surrounding woodlines, right. And maybe
[58:02] Speaker 2: they're they're by mistake, maybe they're not. You know, so
[58:06] Speaker 2: I don't rule out these creatures bigfoot, whatever you call them.
[58:10] Speaker 2: I still don't even have an exact word to what
[58:12] Speaker 2: they call them. Right, They're all over man, and I
[58:16] Speaker 2: think there's more out there than people think. I agree,
[58:21] Speaker 2: And I had reports about dog men on uh and
[58:27] Speaker 2: grow Zeal Michigan and all the surrounding islands that there's
[58:30] Speaker 2: things out there, my goodness. I mean, it's yeah, it's
[58:38] Speaker 2: it's just fascinating, you know. And but yes, I thought
[58:42] Speaker 2: that was such a story though. Okay, Adam McDonald's dumpster eating,
[58:46] Speaker 2: you know, a big mac. I mean, I'm just I
[58:47] Speaker 2: made that up. But you know what I'm saying, it's
[58:49] Speaker 2: just funny.
[58:50] Speaker 1: I mean, it is, it's funny, but it's also like
[58:54] Speaker 1: it fits the pattern where they're going to take the
[58:59] Speaker 1: easy if they find a place with a lot of
[59:01] Speaker 1: food like that, or maybe if someone in Oklahoma is
[59:08] Speaker 1: holding on to deer that that are on freezers on
[59:12] Speaker 1: their front porch, they're going to take that easy route.
[59:14] Speaker 1: Or they go the casinos with the geese, the casinos
[59:18] Speaker 1: with the grease trap dumpsters in the back, and that's
[59:21] Speaker 1: happened too, So I mean, yeah, there's all sorts of weird, weird,
[59:25] Speaker 1: funny stories, but I think there's definitely some truth to
[59:28] Speaker 1: them too. But you know, Rob, it has been such
[59:32] Speaker 1: a such a privilege to be able to have a
[59:34] Speaker 1: conversation with you finally, but I want to make sure
[59:36] Speaker 1: that you're able to take a few minutes to share
[59:40] Speaker 1: you know, how people can make sure they keep up
[59:43] Speaker 1: to date with what you're doing. Watch your shows and
[59:47] Speaker 1: you know, pick up a copy of your books as well.
[59:50] Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, simply YouTube. I'm on YouTube,
[59:54] Speaker 2: but it's very easy. It's a Bigfoot in Michigan Rob
[59:57] Speaker 2: on YouTube. This is my fourth year doing it, and
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: the show I have three shows. Tuesday night is the
[1:00:04] Speaker 2: live interview show where I have guests that either experiencers
[1:00:08] Speaker 2: or researchers and we talk about all the cryptids and
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: the paranormal. I mean we've kind of I've kind of
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: made it a goal to be more diverse, so you'll
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: get the cryptids, you'll get some UFO stuff. So that's
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: Tuesday at nine, and I'm also on Thursday afternoon at
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: one and Saturday night at eleven, so I'm on three
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: live shows a week. I'm also got the two books
[1:00:32] Speaker 2: called Bigfoot Mission Represents True crypt and Encounters Book one
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: and two. All you need to do there is type
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: Bigfoot Mission Rob in your Amazon browser. And I got
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: links and stuff on my profile page of my YouTube channel,
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: and I'm on Twitter, ex Instagram. You know, you can
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: look me up. It's very easy to find. All you
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: do is type Bigfoot Mission Rob. All my stuff pulls up.
[1:00:56] Speaker 2: I kind of set it up that way, and I'm
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: looking to do a website, and I'm a mutual friend
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: of ours Bigfoot Fidez, I like to give for a shout.
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: Ou atually helps me out a lot of stuff. And
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: We're going to be putting together a website where I
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: can put all my stuff because I'm also going to
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: be selling my year. People want. I usually wear Bigfoot
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: Miss rob bandanas, so I'm finally going taking those and
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: I'll be doing that all the knickknacks, you know, stuff
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: like that. But my biggest thing is my YouTube channel.
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: It's my baby. It's why I started. If I'd never
[1:01:32] Speaker 2: had this encounter BM I would not exist. He would
[1:01:35] Speaker 2: just be some dude. But I had a life changing
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: experience and I'll have to share this phenomenon with everybody
[1:01:42] Speaker 2: because everybody should be at least aware, and it's a
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: safe place to come. You won't be judged, you won't
[1:01:48] Speaker 2: be ridiculed like I was. That's why I really do it,
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: to be honest, one.
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: Hundred percent shout out to Bigfoot Fades.
[1:01:57] Speaker 2: I call it purpose. I know. Yeah.
[1:02:02] Speaker 1: Also one last saying, how can if people want to
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: reach out to you specifically maybe about an encounter or
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: just ask you a question. Is there a way they
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: can contact you directly.
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, my email is beyond bmr at gmail dot com.
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: So b E y O N D blah blah blah,
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: Bigfoot Beyond bmr at gmail dot com.
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: Perfect. That's awesome. Just just in case, I want to
[1:02:30] Speaker 1: make sure you're yeah no, not Michigan stuff.
[1:02:33] Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I tell you, I do get a
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: lot of Michigan Andrews. I get a lot of stuff
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: from Michigan, and you know, another states have been picking
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: up over the last couple of years, so I just can't.
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: I'm very happy and proud of what I've been doing.
[1:02:47] Speaker 2: And uh and yeh. And I love the audience and
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: the people that join your show like you're your awesome show.
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: I love Bigfoot Society. I listen to it when I can,
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: thank you, and when I don't want to watch your
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: live Show's right, Yoda lists do a nice podcast. Is
[1:03:05] Speaker 2: you do. Do a great job, great stories, great guests,
[1:03:08] Speaker 2: and you do a great job. So hats off to
[1:03:09] Speaker 2: you as well.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: Thank you well Bigfoot Michigan Rob, thank you so much
[1:03:14] Speaker 1: for coming on the show. We'll be watching to see
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: what you come out with next. But thank you so.
[1:03:19] Speaker 2: Much for coming on. Hey, thank you so much.
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: would love to get out in those woods and experience
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can.
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild.
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,
[1:04:08] Speaker 1: you just got to be there. We'll leave it that
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can
[1:04:23] Speaker 1: not only go to the festival, but you can also
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: sign up for a track deep in the wild forest
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed
[1:04:47] Speaker 1: for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.
[1:04:57] Speaker 1: To get a ticket, head on a or just Sasquatch
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code BSP
[1:05:07] Speaker 1: like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two
[1:05:10] Speaker 1: day pass for the price of a one day pass.
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so
[1:05:18] Speaker 1: that you guys can can get a little help with
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: many people last year and the year before. It is
[1:05:38] Speaker 1: an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,
[1:05:42] Speaker 1: and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: I want to say something directly to a very specific
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch
[1:05:53] Speaker 1: or forces, and if you've seen something that no one
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: forestreet worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: on a remote oil field or a trucker with government
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,
[1:06:48] Speaker 1: NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you
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[1:07:20] Speaker 1: us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,
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