# Leo González Lived in a Haunted Townhouse

An episode of [Ghosted! by Roz Hernandez](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1450864418), 15 Dec 2025, 54 min.

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Roz gasps with glee as she welcomes the comedy sensation, Leo González! Mischief is afoot as the two discuss Fresno nightcrawlers, Leo’s townhouse ghost era, and Tyler Henry’s food court order back when the Leo worked at a mall near their shared hometown. Want to share YOUR paranormal experience on the podcast? Email your *short* stories to GhostedByRoz@gmail.com and maybe Roz will read it out loud on the show... or even call you! Be sure to follow the show @GhostedByRoz on Instagram. Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3WwYCsr See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:07] Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky. Hey Joky, I'm
[0:12] Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
[0:16] Speaker 1: I'm ghosted Imma nandaz p Hey boo, it's me Roz
[0:29] Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Raz Hernandez, the podcast where
[0:35] Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the para normal.
[0:39] Speaker 1: This week, I am joined by someone who I have
[0:43] Speaker 1: admired on TikTok for the past few years, Leo Gonzalez.
[0:49] Speaker 1: He is so funny and he's always churning out the
[0:53] Speaker 1: content and it's always hilarious. So check out Leo on
[0:57] Speaker 1: all platforms. Just so funny, so funny. In this episode today,
[1:02] Speaker 1: I actually had never met him. I was just a fan,
[1:04] Speaker 1: so we reached out and had him come on. So
[1:08] Speaker 1: you'll hear us getting to know each other. We're both
[1:10] Speaker 1: a little sassy to each other. I'm not gonna lie,
[1:13] Speaker 1: but I think I made a new friend and we
[1:17] Speaker 1: had a good time. But before that, let's hear a
[1:20] Speaker 1: ghost story from Liz Liz Rights. Just about a year ago,
[1:26] Speaker 1: I had an experience that I really can't explain. I
[1:30] Speaker 1: was in my bedroom and had just put hair dye
[1:33] Speaker 1: in my hair and was waiting to wash it out.
[1:36] Speaker 1: I was sitting in the open space on the floor
[1:39] Speaker 1: while listening to an audio book and filing my nails
[1:43] Speaker 1: in my underwear in sports bra when all of a sudden,
[1:47] Speaker 1: I felt a cold finger poke me in my upper back.
[1:51] Speaker 1: If there was hair dye dripping, I would have seen
[1:53] Speaker 1: it on my back, and there was nothing around me
[1:56] Speaker 1: that I could have leaned on or bumped. It honestly
[2:00] Speaker 1: had some force and felt exactly like a cold, firm
[2:04] Speaker 1: finger pressing into my back to get my attention. It
[2:09] Speaker 1: definitely unnerved me in the moment, but I didn't necessarily
[2:13] Speaker 1: feel afraid or negative, more just confused. I got my husband,
[2:19] Speaker 1: who was downstairs. I explained it all to him and
[2:22] Speaker 1: made him wait upstairs while I showered, just in gaze.
[2:26] Speaker 1: In hindsight, a week or two after that experience, my
[2:30] Speaker 1: husband's gambling addiction came to light. I had a tendency
[2:35] Speaker 1: to sweep things under the rug, and I think the universe,
[2:39] Speaker 1: or a loved one, or a ghost, whatever it was
[2:42] Speaker 1: poked me, sending a firm but loving message to wake
[2:47] Speaker 1: up or pay attention. I don't know what it was.
[2:51] Speaker 1: I've never experienced anything like that before. Or since, but
[2:54] Speaker 1: I'm choosing to believe something in the universe was looking
[2:57] Speaker 1: out for me. Wait, this is crazy. It's kind of
[3:00] Speaker 1: like just last week we had a story from a
[3:03] Speaker 1: listener about finding out that his partner was cheating on him,
[3:09] Speaker 1: and he believes a ghost sent the message or made
[3:12] Speaker 1: it so that he saw the messages on his partner's quote.
[3:15] Speaker 1: This is crazy. These ghosts are really out here. Maybe
[3:18] Speaker 1: it's Guardian Angel, you know, I don't know, or maybe
[3:21] Speaker 1: you know. If these ghosts really can see everything, that's
[3:25] Speaker 1: kind of interesting. You never really think about that, Like
[3:28] Speaker 1: the ghost can see it all, so they could be Like, girl,
[3:32] Speaker 1: you need to look into that husband over there. He's
[3:34] Speaker 1: played a little too much online poker. That's fascinating. Thank
[3:39] Speaker 1: you so much for sharing that. Har Are you watching
[3:42] Speaker 1: the Haunted Doll on my YouTube series? It's so fun.
[3:45] Speaker 1: Actually a few people that have guested on this podcast
[3:50] Speaker 1: have joined me in videos. I have one that recently
[3:55] Speaker 1: came out. I have an upcoming one with another person
[3:58] Speaker 1: that has been on the show. So it's all kind
[4:00] Speaker 1: of tying in and it's it's fun, you know, because
[4:03] Speaker 1: I'm I spend so much time on this podcast learning
[4:06] Speaker 1: about ghosts and when I go out into the world
[4:11] Speaker 1: looking for them, it's a whole other experience. So you
[4:14] Speaker 1: can find that on my YouTube Rosernandez the Haunted Doll.
[4:18] Speaker 1: You can see me staying in haunted hotel rooms and
[4:21] Speaker 1: finding guys on Grinder to join me. Okay, let's get
[4:26] Speaker 1: into this conversation with Leo Gonzalez add with the show.
[4:36] Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't believe it. It's as if
[4:41] Speaker 1: I've spent hours on my phone staring at your face
[4:46] Speaker 1: and then always in I conjured you and you're here
[4:49] Speaker 1: in front of me.
[4:50] Speaker 2: That's what I felt like coming in right now. Yeah, Hi, yeah, ah,
[4:54] Speaker 2: nice to see you finally.
[4:56] Speaker 1: Oh my god, thanks so much for doing this. I'm
[4:58] Speaker 1: obsessed with your gone.
[5:00] Speaker 2: No, yes I am.
[5:03] Speaker 1: I know really, and you know, I was like, you know,
[5:08] Speaker 1: I'm like Mexican and I feel like I feel like
[5:13] Speaker 1: Mexican people. We definitely have like a relationship with the paranormal. Yeah,
[5:19] Speaker 1: I'm curious what yours is.
[5:22] Speaker 2: I know, I don't know if I I mean for me,
[5:24] Speaker 2: I don't know if I do, you don't, I think,
[5:26] Speaker 2: I don't think I did. I think as when I
[5:28] Speaker 2: moved to La maybe that's when I was like, oh
[5:31] Speaker 2: more leg into.
[5:32] Speaker 1: Where'd you come from?
[5:33] Speaker 2: I came from Fresno area. Have you been there?
[5:35] Speaker 1: Fresno nightcrawlers?
[5:37] Speaker 2: Where is that? Is that a thing?
[5:38] Speaker 1: Freds No night area?
[5:41] Speaker 2: I'm from Hanford near Fresnoe. What is night crawlers?
[5:44] Speaker 1: Fresno nightcrawlers? Is this phenomenal in Fresno? Since I've never
[5:49] Speaker 1: been to Fresnow In my mind, everyone talks about it,
[5:51] Speaker 1: but apparently no, I just never never been clip that
[5:56] Speaker 1: I've never been to Fresnoy because night crawlers? What is
[6:01] Speaker 1: Fresno nightcrawlers?
[6:03] Speaker 2: Is that like a club crawling type of thing.
[6:05] Speaker 1: It's like, ah, like Bigfoot or whatever, like a cryptid,
[6:11] Speaker 1: one of these creatures that people see. But it looks
[6:14] Speaker 1: like two. It looks like pairs of pants just walking. Geeah,
[6:19] Speaker 1: can you put up some Fresno nightcrawlers? Sorry I didn't
[6:22] Speaker 1: plan this out. I'll wait, I'll look it up. Fresno
[6:25] Speaker 1: Nightcrawlers is like this thing that a lot of people
[6:29] Speaker 1: will tell you is not real, but it's like an
[6:32] Speaker 1: internet thing. I swear I'm making this up. It is
[6:36] Speaker 1: fresnough right, yeah, it is, it is. It is Fresno.
[6:39] Speaker 1: The Fresno nightcrawlers look at it?
[6:41] Speaker 2: Oh, oh, those are things.
[6:44] Speaker 1: They look like big pairs of pants, like big balloon
[6:50] Speaker 1: pants that just walk around and people see these in Fresno.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Like still, yes, how have I never heard? That's crazy?
[7:00] Speaker 1: So are you really from Fresno? Why I brought you here?
[7:04] Speaker 1: Because I know you like the story that you're from Fresno.
[7:06] Speaker 1: If you've never heard at the present night crawler.
[7:09] Speaker 2: I only only for what it benefits me.
[7:11] Speaker 1: Huh, you're not from this part of town where they
[7:15] Speaker 1: see these walking way.
[7:16] Speaker 2: For like rich people area.
[7:19] Speaker 1: It could be. I'm not sure. They do look like
[7:21] Speaker 1: they do look fancy. They're definitely like I.
[7:26] Speaker 2: See at least three bitches like that in who a week.
[7:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely we have night crawlers, but those are different. Okay, So,
[7:36] Speaker 1: so you're from Fresno. You don't have a relationship with
[7:40] Speaker 1: the paranormal.
[7:41] Speaker 2: No, I shouldn't.
[7:43] Speaker 1: Have never asked you on those psychologies.
[7:45] Speaker 2: But I wanted to meet you that bad. I was like,
[7:47] Speaker 2: I'll go because I want to. I want to learn
[7:50] Speaker 2: from you about it.
[7:51] Speaker 1: I can't teach you anything, no, you know, can.
[7:53] Speaker 2: I say this? I will say that I used to.
[7:56] Speaker 2: Where do you live? Like your address?
[7:58] Speaker 1: My exact address?
[8:00] Speaker 2: No have you? Have you lived in Burbank before?
[8:03] Speaker 1: Why would you guess not?
[8:04] Speaker 2: No, because I lived in Burbank before.
[8:06] Speaker 1: You saw me.
[8:08] Speaker 2: No, well you don't go out and you I've never
[8:11] Speaker 2: seen in this area. You give me Beverly Hills vibes.
[8:15] Speaker 2: Stop right, I mean, where do you shop?
[8:19] Speaker 1: I'm very fancy I shop in Burbank.
[8:22] Speaker 2: No you don't.
[8:23] Speaker 1: Magnolia Boulevard. Ah, that's that is my favorite part of
[8:29] Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Magnolia from Hollywood Way to like Buena Vista.
[8:36] Speaker 2: Okay, Portals and Taco Bell.
[8:39] Speaker 1: From Portals to talk about my two personalities. Yeah, no, no, no,
[8:43] Speaker 1: for sure, that's I love that that area because there's
[8:46] Speaker 1: a lot of like spooky stores.
[8:47] Speaker 2: And like, yeah, yeah I went to I went to
[8:50] Speaker 2: the Halloween store, the one that.
[8:51] Speaker 1: Sells Halloween town.
[8:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I went there recently. I was
[8:55] Speaker 2: gonna say, I used to live in I used to
[8:57] Speaker 2: live in Burbank. I don't anymore. But wait, did you
[9:01] Speaker 2: grow up here? No? Where are you from?
[9:03] Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? I have Mexican but a group
[9:05] Speaker 1: in Michigan. Oh we're different. We're a whole different.
[9:09] Speaker 2: Is different and your Michigan. Yeah, we're different.
[9:13] Speaker 1: You know. I have told people before, like they're like,
[9:15] Speaker 1: where are you from, Like Michigan. They're like meetchokhan, I'm
[9:17] Speaker 1: like Michigan.
[9:20] Speaker 2: Where's your family from Chihuahua? Huh? Both from Chiaha.
[9:25] Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. My family moved to America in
[9:30] Speaker 1: the fifties workers and okay.
[9:35] Speaker 2: My dad was in the nineties. I'm sorry, we're in
[9:37] Speaker 2: your land. I get it.
[9:41] Speaker 1: They were out there picking fruits and vegetables in the Midwest.
[9:45] Speaker 1: There's actually a lot of Mexican people in the Midwest.
[9:48] Speaker 2: I've met one.
[9:49] Speaker 1: Just now, Why are you wondering about where I live?
[9:52] Speaker 2: And oh, I was because I wanted to know you
[9:55] Speaker 2: down Sam.
[9:57] Speaker 1: This is combative. I'm sorry.
[10:00] Speaker 2: No, I was wondering, No because I I, uh, because
[10:02] Speaker 2: I lived in Burbank before, and I moved into a
[10:04] Speaker 2: house an apartment because I'm not at your level. But
[10:06] Speaker 2: I moved to apartment where there was a ghost.
[10:13] Speaker 1: So what do you mean you don't have a relationship
[10:15] Speaker 1: with ghosts?
[10:15] Speaker 2: No, Well, I was saying, that's when when when I
[10:17] Speaker 2: got to La over there, I didn't. But it's because
[10:21] Speaker 2: I don't because I get scared.
[10:23] Speaker 1: Well, yeah, see that's the thing. Now, here's the thing
[10:25] Speaker 1: about me Mexican and white, are you a yes?
[10:29] Speaker 2: Oh?
[10:30] Speaker 1: But that's this is where the two come into play
[10:34] Speaker 1: with me in this this line of work, because the
[10:37] Speaker 1: white part of me is like spooky, let's go get speaky. Yeah,
[10:42] Speaker 1: and then the Mexican part of me is like, you
[10:45] Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. Yeah, that's fucked up, stay out of that.
[10:49] Speaker 2: Yeah. Way.
[10:50] Speaker 1: So and you Catholic? No, okay?
[10:54] Speaker 2: Kind of Christian?
[10:55] Speaker 1: Is Christian?
[10:56] Speaker 2: Is? Yeah? Like I grew up going to camps. Did
[10:59] Speaker 2: you ever go to camp? Oh?
[11:01] Speaker 1: You missed, and we didn't really do camp where I
[11:03] Speaker 1: came from.
[11:04] Speaker 2: You didn't do to Michigan. No, I had a lot
[11:07] Speaker 2: of snow.
[11:08] Speaker 1: But camp is like spooky to me. Really, it was
[11:12] Speaker 1: spooky to be away from my family. What am I scared?
[11:16] Speaker 2: Really? Oh? You had a good upbringing.
[11:24] Speaker 1: Wait, so you you move to Burbank, California?
[11:28] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[11:29] Speaker 1: Where exactly?
[11:30] Speaker 2: I moved right there by by Disney, by the animation area,
[11:34] Speaker 2: right there by Providence, Okay, And there was a ghost
[11:37] Speaker 2: like those things like moving around.
[11:38] Speaker 1: What do you mean did you believe in ghosts at all.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Before this.
[11:43] Speaker 2: My thing is I don't believe in things. It's not
[11:47] Speaker 2: even that I don't believe in things. I'm just like
[11:48] Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about it, you know, That's
[11:51] Speaker 2: how I am. I'm like, if I don't talk about it,
[11:54] Speaker 2: then it's like I don't want to draw attention to it.
[11:56] Speaker 2: But I went to this place and I loved it.
[11:59] Speaker 2: It was like it my face even like now I
[12:01] Speaker 2: live in like a different place and I had a doctor,
[12:03] Speaker 2: so I had to move. But but the place that
[12:07] Speaker 2: I was at was amazing. But I kept like hearing
[12:10] Speaker 2: things and like things would like relocate and live by myself.
[12:14] Speaker 1: What would relocate like.
[12:16] Speaker 2: Random chargers, random things like dead ass, dead ass?
[12:22] Speaker 1: It was a dad person, yeahs dad ass.
[12:27] Speaker 2: At some point I like said out loud, I was,
[12:30] Speaker 2: I said, like listen, like this is your home. I
[12:34] Speaker 2: get it.
[12:35] Speaker 1: Was this ghost paying for it?
[12:37] Speaker 2: Well, they clearly loved it. No, because I'm very respectful.
[12:40] Speaker 1: To be respectful, I don't believe in that.
[12:42] Speaker 2: You don't want to be respectful to ghosts. No, that's
[12:45] Speaker 2: a hot take.
[12:45] Speaker 1: I don't want to be respectful right there, living or dad.
[12:49] Speaker 1: If I'm paying, it's mine really, but it wasn't if
[12:53] Speaker 1: I'm paying for rent. Yeah, I don't care who you are.
[12:57] Speaker 1: It's not your home.
[12:59] Speaker 2: Oh that's that miss No, yeah.
[13:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this is my home.
[13:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
[13:07] Speaker 1: I'm not having somebody just squatting in there.
[13:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it likes to a piece, like we
[13:13] Speaker 2: want to be like, you know what, let's share it
[13:16] Speaker 2: because I can't see them.
[13:18] Speaker 1: But if they're moving my stuff and it's scaring.
[13:20] Speaker 2: Me and I need to walk, look at me.
[13:23] Speaker 1: Okay, you liked it.
[13:25] Speaker 2: Then I didn't like it, but I was like, I
[13:27] Speaker 2: need to respect you, like clearly you're here and I
[13:30] Speaker 2: don't want to fight you. I can't take you.
[13:32] Speaker 1: Good for you, you know, I see. I believe that
[13:35] Speaker 1: I can take ghosts. I like to let these ghosts know.
[13:40] Speaker 1: You don't have a body. I have this body.
[13:43] Speaker 2: Oh you're trying to fight.
[13:45] Speaker 1: Well, I want them to know that's good. Actually, I
[13:48] Speaker 1: just want them to know what know the score? Yeah,
[13:51] Speaker 1: because I also like to let ghosts know. I could
[13:54] Speaker 1: call some people that know what they're talking about and
[13:57] Speaker 1: they could get you out of here. Have you done No,
[14:01] Speaker 1: I have let them know. I've gone to haunted places
[14:03] Speaker 1: and been like just so you know you better act
[14:06] Speaker 1: correct because I could find a priest. Yeah, I know
[14:11] Speaker 1: some ladies with bangs that can light some shit and
[14:14] Speaker 1: make you disappear. It's not gonna be me because I
[14:16] Speaker 1: don't know how to do any of this.
[14:17] Speaker 2: Well, you don't know how to so you don't know
[14:18] Speaker 2: how to talk to like you know, you're not like
[14:20] Speaker 2: a medium or anything. No, for I that I was
[14:22] Speaker 2: gonna talk to. I thought I was gonna talk to someone.
[14:26] Speaker 2: Do you know a medium?
[14:27] Speaker 1: Now I'm a little bit, are you, yes, I'm picking
[14:30] Speaker 1: up some things. So do you you have siblings?
[14:36] Speaker 2: Are you asking me?
[14:37] Speaker 1: Yes, I'm picking up things from the other side. You
[14:41] Speaker 1: have a brother? Am I right?
[14:43] Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. I don't know
[14:44] Speaker 2: if I should answer you right now.
[14:46] Speaker 1: I'm actually than going Okay, So you have a brother,
[14:50] Speaker 1: and you have a sister named Cecilia, and your brother's
[14:58] Speaker 1: name is Celia. Oh my god, you cried?
[15:02] Speaker 2: Wait? How wait? Wait? Wait? Are you being for real? Yes, bitch,
[15:05] Speaker 2: I'm an only child? The fuck? No?
[15:08] Speaker 1: No, no, you just don't know. No parents have two
[15:11] Speaker 1: other kids.
[15:12] Speaker 2: Oh, here we go, and there name Celia and Celia?
[15:16] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, for real? We then why would I say
[15:19] Speaker 1: that if it wasn't true. You why would I say
[15:22] Speaker 1: that if it wasn't true.
[15:24] Speaker 2: I'm gonna call my I'm call my dad.
[15:26] Speaker 1: Oh your dad?
[15:26] Speaker 2: And wait I do have a Oh wait, I do
[15:29] Speaker 2: actually have two siblings.
[15:30] Speaker 1: You just remember that you have siblings.
[15:32] Speaker 2: Oh I do. They're in Mexico. I just realized I
[15:34] Speaker 2: do technically.
[15:35] Speaker 1: Oh shit, what if your siblings are the prison of
[15:40] Speaker 1: night Crawlers?
[15:41] Speaker 2: Okay, that would.
[15:43] Speaker 1: Be crazy because then you're not the most famous person
[15:46] Speaker 1: in your family.
[15:48] Speaker 2: Yes, I am. No, are the night Crawlers dead or are
[15:55] Speaker 2: the actual people?
[15:56] Speaker 1: There are two giant pairs of white pants that walk,
[16:00] Speaker 1: That's all I know.
[16:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they my my dad's kids that
[16:05] Speaker 2: are in Mexico. They're like seventeen and like thirteen. And
[16:07] Speaker 2: that little boy does not walk. That motherfucker is bigger
[16:10] Speaker 2: than me.
[16:10] Speaker 1: Cecilio.
[16:13] Speaker 2: We call him sec sec.
[16:16] Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, no, I'm not a psych. I'm sorry.
[16:19] Speaker 1: I've lied on my resume many times. Yeah, just say
[16:23] Speaker 1: you're psycho.
[16:23] Speaker 2: Why did you work before this?
[16:25] Speaker 1: Before? So my final job I ever had. I had
[16:29] Speaker 1: two final jobs. During the daytime. I was a tour
[16:31] Speaker 1: guid at Universal studios and at nighttime, I was a
[16:35] Speaker 1: door person at the Hollywood Improv Comedy Club.
[16:39] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Oh you're in the business. Yep, babe,
[16:43] Speaker 2: you're like you're like one of those celebrities that tell
[16:46] Speaker 2: that type of thing on like a talk show, late
[16:48] Speaker 2: night talk show.
[16:49] Speaker 1: That's what this is. Yeah, but they don't buy me
[16:53] Speaker 1: a talk show, so I do it myself. Okay, Wait,
[16:57] Speaker 1: so you have this ghost in your home? How long?
[17:02] Speaker 2: I think I think she was there the whole time?
[17:04] Speaker 2: She Yeah, I think it was a she.
[17:06] Speaker 1: Why is that?
[17:07] Speaker 2: I also love it to stick around? I'm just kidding.
[17:09] Speaker 1: She was moving stuff around. No, no, because I think
[17:12] Speaker 1: girls like stuff.
[17:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that she. I think that she. And
[17:17] Speaker 2: I can't remember now, but I feel like someone had
[17:20] Speaker 2: told me that that, like an older woman had lived
[17:23] Speaker 2: there and died there. Oh okay, I think I was like, oh,
[17:26] Speaker 2: it must be her because this place is nice. Well
[17:29] Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm like I never had a place
[17:31] Speaker 2: like this, Like for me, it was really nice. It
[17:33] Speaker 2: was like this like what is.
[17:34] Speaker 1: That called like a what is that called an apartment?
[17:38] Speaker 2: Right? Like but it's like the what is it like
[17:41] Speaker 2: like a what do they call them? A couch, you know,
[17:45] Speaker 2: the type of apartment like a condo.
[17:47] Speaker 1: What's a bungalow to a townhouse?
[17:51] Speaker 2: You said a couch.
[17:53] Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. I don't know where you're going. Okay,
[17:57] Speaker 1: so townhouse. You lived in a townhouse. I've never lived
[18:01] Speaker 1: in a town house.
[18:02] Speaker 2: What do you have now?
[18:03] Speaker 1: An apartment? I rent it?
[18:05] Speaker 2: You do not rent? Yes? I do? I say a
[18:08] Speaker 2: car outside?
[18:09] Speaker 1: No you didn't.
[18:10] Speaker 2: She's like, no, you didn't, you did not No, But
[18:15] Speaker 2: I think I think what I what I thought when
[18:17] Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, you must love it
[18:19] Speaker 2: because it's beautiful. I really loved it.
[18:21] Speaker 1: And yeah, because it comes with an invisible old dead
[18:26] Speaker 1: lady that will touch all your stuff. She probably put
[18:28] Speaker 1: her fingers in your mouth when you were sleeping. But
[18:31] Speaker 1: you know what, the Brice can't beat it.
[18:32] Speaker 2: You know. Do you do you think that ghost watches?
[18:39] Speaker 1: Yes?
[18:40] Speaker 2: Do they?
[18:41] Speaker 1: What do you mean?
[18:42] Speaker 2: No? I don't know.
[18:43] Speaker 1: People talk all the time about like, oh, our ancestors
[18:46] Speaker 1: are always watching.
[18:47] Speaker 2: Really I would because I feel like I had seen
[18:50] Speaker 2: you know, Tyler Henry, is that yes? You know?
[18:53] Speaker 1: Like personally, uh not from lack of trying. We've certainly
[18:59] Speaker 1: my my people have reached out many times. He has
[19:04] Speaker 1: never sat in that chair.
[19:05] Speaker 2: He will now after this.
[19:08] Speaker 1: Give him you shout it out.
[19:10] Speaker 2: Tyler Henry, come on this show ghosted by Rosernandez. Come
[19:15] Speaker 2: to this show please. He's from Hanford, He's from where
[19:18] Speaker 2: I'm from. Oh wow, he he. I don't think he
[19:25] Speaker 2: remembers this, but him and I worked at the mall
[19:28] Speaker 2: at the same time. No way, for real, I was
[19:32] Speaker 2: working at Do you like Charlie's Philly Cheese Steaks? Gotcha
[19:37] Speaker 2: different tanks?
[19:39] Speaker 1: I don't eat beef or cheese.
[19:43] Speaker 2: Do you eat chicken? Are you vegetarian? Did you think
[19:48] Speaker 2: about it?
[19:49] Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm like a vegetarian, but I don't eat
[19:51] Speaker 1: cheese either, So I'm like kind of vegan. But I
[19:55] Speaker 1: eat gummy bears which are ground up. H I don't know,
[20:01] Speaker 1: pig bones or something like that. You really thought you
[20:05] Speaker 1: were gonna You came in here thinking that you were
[20:07] Speaker 1: talking to some smart like paranormal scholar.
[20:13] Speaker 2: I thought, I don't know. I came I don't even know.
[20:16] Speaker 2: How is this for you to learn?
[20:18] Speaker 1: Yes, I came here hoping that you had.
[20:21] Speaker 2: Some stuff I don't. We'll talk right now.
[20:24] Speaker 1: Okay, So wait, you live? You worked used to work
[20:26] Speaker 1: with Tyler.
[20:27] Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, I don't start that, no, no no.
[20:30] Speaker 1: And Tyler Henry used to eat Philly Cheese seas together
[20:34] Speaker 1: every day.
[20:35] Speaker 2: We had a startup company.
[20:36] Speaker 1: And he said, wait a second, I think I'm yeah yea.
[20:40] Speaker 2: No, he worked at Sears while I worked at Charlie's.
[20:45] Speaker 1: And so you wait, Sears, like sometimes people call psychics
[20:50] Speaker 1: a seer. Oh, that's why he worked there because he
[20:53] Speaker 1: thought this was a place where you're supposed to be
[20:55] Speaker 1: a psychic.
[20:56] Speaker 2: Right. He was sitting with someone he was like, bitch,
[20:59] Speaker 2: you see her?
[21:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, seer. Okay, So he's working at Sears and you're
[21:04] Speaker 1: working at the Philly cheesecake place.
[21:06] Speaker 2: Well, hold on, well let's put some respect on Charlie's.
[21:10] Speaker 1: Charlie's.
[21:11] Speaker 2: No, it's nice, and I make a good ass sandwich.
[21:14] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hell yeah, please talk about Tyler.
[21:17] Speaker 2: He okay. So we worked at them all at the same time.
[21:24] Speaker 2: So he used to come to Charlie's.
[21:26] Speaker 1: So you used to see him so on his lunch break, Yeah,
[21:29] Speaker 1: he would be like, I'd be can I have a
[21:32] Speaker 1: number two with extra cheese?
[21:35] Speaker 2: Working for soda?
[21:36] Speaker 1: He only wanted soda. Yeah, So he would go can
[21:39] Speaker 1: I have some soda? And then you'd be like you'd
[21:42] Speaker 1: be like, okay, we didn't know two dollars, and he's like,
[21:44] Speaker 1: I already knew that, right right right.
[21:46] Speaker 2: He's like, you found out. I was like I knew
[21:48] Speaker 2: how much it was.
[21:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like I saw this.
[21:51] Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then he got super famous.
[21:56] Speaker 1: No way.
[21:57] Speaker 2: They started filming Hollywood Medium shortly after, and he left.
[22:02] Speaker 2: I want him to read me like, I want him
[22:04] Speaker 2: to see who was with me?
[22:05] Speaker 1: Yeah? Me too, I know, I want I want that.
[22:09] Speaker 1: I love him. I think he's great.
[22:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully I'll come on the show. Have you seen
[22:13] Speaker 2: him live? No? Oh, you don't want it that bad.
[22:18] Speaker 2: I've gone to see him live and he hasn't.
[22:20] Speaker 1: You bought tickets to see each other? And so he
[22:22] Speaker 1: comes out and he starts telling.
[22:23] Speaker 2: People, have you gone to any of those shows to who?
[22:27] Speaker 2: What do you mean any like mediums?
[22:29] Speaker 1: Any mediums?
[22:31] Speaker 2: Well?
[22:31] Speaker 1: I have I have supported the medium arts for a
[22:36] Speaker 1: long time.
[22:37] Speaker 2: What does that mean?
[22:38] Speaker 1: I have been to so many mediums? I always say
[22:41] Speaker 1: over one hundred, over one hundred.
[22:43] Speaker 2: I've been to I don't know where? What do you
[22:45] Speaker 2: see them at? Where?
[22:46] Speaker 1: All over the place? Really? I mean I've had like
[22:49] Speaker 1: pretty big time psychics that I've had talked to me,
[22:54] Speaker 1: and I've had like you know, ones are like five bucks?
[22:57] Speaker 2: How is that good?
[23:00] Speaker 1: No, I don't know that I ever really had a
[23:03] Speaker 1: psychic thought like told me, what's what?
[23:06] Speaker 2: I went to a side. Oh you know what? I
[23:08] Speaker 2: did a you do stand up?
[23:09] Speaker 1: Huh?
[23:11] Speaker 2: I did? I did stand up in New Mexico a
[23:13] Speaker 2: few months ago in Albuquerque area. It was it was
[23:17] Speaker 2: a casino called Gisada's Comedy Club. I forgot what town
[23:21] Speaker 2: that is. It's a casino I did. I did my
[23:23] Speaker 2: hour and then when the show finished, I went to
[23:26] Speaker 2: the green room and my friend comes in. He's like, hey, Leo,
[23:30] Speaker 2: like there's a medium outside who was in the audience,
[23:34] Speaker 2: and she wants she wants to see you, like she
[23:36] Speaker 2: needs to talk to you. And I was I got wet,
[23:40] Speaker 2: Like I was like, bro, I've been wanting to see
[23:42] Speaker 2: a medium forever, so like what is she gonna tell me?
[23:45] Speaker 2: So I walk out there and she's like, yeah, you
[23:48] Speaker 2: just you seem like you like like I'm sensing like
[23:53] Speaker 2: like like it was like an off night and I'm like, bitch,
[23:57] Speaker 2: wait to tell me. I bombed? Like what do you
[23:59] Speaker 2: talking about what? She was like, yeah, it just feels
[24:02] Speaker 2: like like the jokes weren't really like and I was like,
[24:06] Speaker 2: what the fun? And then you know what she told me.
[24:08] Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, like it seems like you're like struggling
[24:10] Speaker 2: with your weight. I was like, oh, you have eyes, bitch. Yeah, media,
[24:15] Speaker 2: I don't think you're I think you just picked up
[24:18] Speaker 2: on context clues bitch.
[24:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's just somebody that just she wanted to
[24:22] Speaker 1: read you.
[24:23] Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, if you wanted to do a meet
[24:25] Speaker 2: and greet, you just had to wait a little bit.
[24:27] Speaker 1: Wow. So she just said I'm a medium, just to
[24:30] Speaker 1: get back there so she could tell you.
[24:32] Speaker 2: She told me I was fat. She was like, oh,
[24:33] Speaker 2: something about like you have anxiety. I'm like, girl, three
[24:36] Speaker 2: of the jokes were about that, you know what I mean.
[24:41] Speaker 1: She's like, I'm picking up the years stand up comedian.
[24:44] Speaker 2: Right, She's like, are you sorry? Are you doing Phoenix next?
[24:47] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh.
[24:52] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:53] Speaker 2: A lot of them will do let me.
[24:55] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:56] Speaker 2: I saw one in Malibu one time, another medium, psychic.
[25:00] Speaker 2: They can do both, some of them.
[25:02] Speaker 1: I mean yeah, right, some have some have just some
[25:06] Speaker 1: specific skills. But I think a lot of them do
[25:08] Speaker 1: it all the second to tell you the future the no.
[25:12] Speaker 2: I went over there, you know what. I wanted to
[25:14] Speaker 2: get the cards Carol, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted
[25:19] Speaker 2: to get that done, just to see what's up. And
[25:23] Speaker 2: she said I forgot what she said to me, something
[25:26] Speaker 2: about like not being able to be happy. I was like, gotcha,
[25:30] Speaker 2: and then nobody she did my friend right after me,
[25:33] Speaker 2: and she told my friends. She's like, which one of
[25:37] Speaker 2: your parents has been like cheating on the other, on
[25:40] Speaker 2: your other parent? He's like, oh, no, no, no, not me.
[25:44] Speaker 2: Two weeks later, No, the dad had been cheating.
[25:48] Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't it be crazy if it was the
[25:50] Speaker 1: psychic that was cheating with the dad. She's like, I
[25:53] Speaker 1: have a feeling. Yeah, very soon you're gonna find out
[25:57] Speaker 1: that your dad's been sleeping with some lady that reads
[26:00] Speaker 1: tarot cars.
[26:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like. And she's like, and she's id bitch too.
[26:04] Speaker 1: She's great. Don't be met at her. Just don't be
[26:06] Speaker 1: met at her.
[26:07] Speaker 2: She didn't know.
[26:09] Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorppy. You brought up the mall because yes, absolutely,
[26:17] Speaker 1: but also I was like looking up haunted stores, like
[26:23] Speaker 1: stores that people say are haunted and now I wanted
[26:27] Speaker 1: to tell you about some that I found. Okay, Well,
[26:32] Speaker 1: there's a mall in Rockford, Illinois called the Cherry Vale
[26:36] Speaker 1: Mall and according to this list list versus dot com,
[26:42] Speaker 1: the ten most haunted malls in the world. It's very
[26:45] Speaker 1: like BuzzFeed, like yeah, number ten, and then it has
[26:55] Speaker 1: to be like at the end, like take a test
[26:57] Speaker 1: to find out which haunted mall you are. It says
[27:02] Speaker 1: at this place, the ghosts are quite naughty. Employees often
[27:07] Speaker 1: a plain of feeling like they're being watched at night
[27:10] Speaker 1: while they close their doors. People say, never go into
[27:13] Speaker 1: the bathroom by yourself. It has been reported that the
[27:17] Speaker 1: bathroom has an unknown force that will hold the bathroom
[27:21] Speaker 1: door shut.
[27:23] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[27:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would like to hear JK. Rowling complain
[27:29] Speaker 1: about that. There's also the Market Basket grocery store, which
[27:36] Speaker 1: is in Wilmington, Massachusetts. There's a grocery store there. They
[27:42] Speaker 1: had an employee named Christina Bush. She's twenty five years
[27:45] Speaker 1: old and she's worked there since she was fourteen, and
[27:51] Speaker 1: she was one day standing at the bakery counter ringing
[27:53] Speaker 1: up a customer, and she reportedly look up and she
[27:57] Speaker 1: saw an elderly woman in a white night gown and
[28:00] Speaker 1: a hair cap. Standing there barefoot a few feet away
[28:04] Speaker 1: from her, she looked out at the counter, and then
[28:06] Speaker 1: luckily she looked back up and the woman was gone.
[28:09] Speaker 2: Oh no, I can't do that. Have you seen that?
[28:14] Speaker 2: Have you had that happen?
[28:15] Speaker 1: No?
[28:16] Speaker 2: What got you so into this?
[28:20] Speaker 1: I needed something to talk about. Like Originally, I think
[28:24] Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to just like talk
[28:26] Speaker 1: about comedy or something. I want to talk about something.
[28:29] Speaker 2: And then I was like, so it's not even a passion.
[28:31] Speaker 1: No, it is okay, because I always liked talking about it. Okay,
[28:35] Speaker 1: So I started a podcast where I talked about ghosts,
[28:37] Speaker 1: and then from that I'm like, oh, wait, I really
[28:39] Speaker 1: like this.
[28:41] Speaker 2: Halfway through it, You're like, I kind of.
[28:43] Speaker 1: Wait, this is like really fun. Yeah, because I started
[28:45] Speaker 1: meeting all kinds of people from all over the world,
[28:48] Speaker 1: and they all have different beliefs, and like it's just
[28:51] Speaker 1: really fun to hear about all or all the different
[28:54] Speaker 1: things that could be haunted or reported. Like, for example,
[28:58] Speaker 1: there is at that's haunted in Texas, and I have
[29:04] Speaker 1: heard about this one. It's in Galveston. It's actually really sad.
[29:07] Speaker 1: It was built on the former site of Saint Mary's
[29:11] Speaker 1: Orphan Asylum. And this place is haunted buy a bunch
[29:16] Speaker 1: of children because it was destroyed in the hurricane of
[29:19] Speaker 1: nineteen hundred and there were ninety children in ten ten nuns,
[29:24] Speaker 1: so that's one hundred people. They all died instantly, and
[29:27] Speaker 1: then they built a wal mart over it. So now
[29:30] Speaker 1: people are constantly hearing children cry and giggle, and there's nuns,
[29:35] Speaker 1: and there's there's stealing toys in the toy section.
[29:39] Speaker 2: That's crazy.
[29:40] Speaker 1: That's something closer to fred. Wait, where's Fresno.
[29:44] Speaker 2: It's like three hours north of here, but I'm from Hanford.
[29:47] Speaker 2: That's only two and a half hours from here. Is
[29:50] Speaker 2: just a bigger city.
[29:51] Speaker 1: Okay, we have talked about this one that I'm obsessed with.
[29:54] Speaker 1: It's up north. It is a Toys Arrest that's haunted.
[29:58] Speaker 1: But now Toys Arrests are out of business. I heard
[30:00] Speaker 1: they're coming back.
[30:01] Speaker 2: I don't know some of them, right, Yeah.
[30:04] Speaker 1: But this one is now a gee? How what is
[30:06] Speaker 1: the haunted Toys ar Us? Now, what's that store called.
[30:10] Speaker 1: It's like where people go to buy camping stuff. Ari
[30:14] Speaker 1: I it's a ari, I know, but it's haunted by
[30:18] Speaker 1: a ghost named Crazy Johnny.
[30:20] Speaker 2: I didn't know his name.
[30:22] Speaker 1: You know Sylvia Brown. Sylvia Brown is the psychic that's
[30:26] Speaker 1: She's got a really big on TikTok clips of her
[30:28] Speaker 1: from like the nineties and two thousands, And she was
[30:31] Speaker 1: a psychic that would always be on TV and she
[30:33] Speaker 1: would like make predictions about things. Have you ever heard
[30:37] Speaker 1: of Honey the Land? She's a famous psychic and she
[30:42] Speaker 1: went to this Haunted Toys.
[30:44] Speaker 2: Oh she's not.
[30:46] Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it. I was not involved.
[30:51] Speaker 1: Wait a second, can I show you what haunted doll?
[30:54] Speaker 2: Yes? Do you have haunted all at home? No?
[30:58] Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not into it like that, but I do
[31:04] Speaker 1: have an obsession, which is going to eBay dot com.
[31:07] Speaker 2: You go there, just got to keep a serve, the
[31:09] Speaker 2: servers going high.
[31:10] Speaker 1: You've got to keep the service going. But listen, it's
[31:12] Speaker 1: a very big thing on eBay dot com, the haunted
[31:15] Speaker 1: doll community. Really, people are selling thousands of haunted dolls
[31:20] Speaker 1: at all times, any type you want. You can find
[31:23] Speaker 1: one that'll get freaky deeky with you. You can find
[31:26] Speaker 1: one that has a demon inside.
[31:29] Speaker 2: You can you can find all people looking for those people.
[31:31] Speaker 1: I am just I can talk about it. I don't
[31:34] Speaker 1: want to buy it.
[31:35] Speaker 2: But buy it. Be about it.
[31:37] Speaker 1: The people apparently do, and I give these small businesses
[31:41] Speaker 1: a platform. I advertise their products for free on here. Okay,
[31:47] Speaker 1: it's time for the dolls are living. Okay, this right
[31:54] Speaker 1: here is a doll that is currently going for fifty
[31:58] Speaker 1: four dollars and ninety nine cents. It doesn't have a name.
[32:04] Speaker 1: But take a look and tell me what you think.
[32:06] Speaker 1: Is that for you?
[32:08] Speaker 2: And you know what, it's not from me? No, no,
[32:12] Speaker 2: how can we? And so, how does someone purchasing this
[32:16] Speaker 2: doll verify that it's actually haunted?
[32:20] Speaker 1: Well, I could buy it for you and you could
[32:22] Speaker 1: let me know.
[32:23] Speaker 2: No, No, I'm talking about for someone who's interested. I
[32:28] Speaker 2: would think that, like someone like me could just buy
[32:31] Speaker 2: a doll and say it's haunted. No, why would you
[32:35] Speaker 2: do and get a profit.
[32:36] Speaker 1: Well, they come with biographies, writes them. The person that's
[32:41] Speaker 1: selling it. Usually it's based on either their experience living
[32:44] Speaker 1: with this haunted doll or what the haunted doll has
[32:46] Speaker 1: told them. And by the way, if you're just listening,
[32:49] Speaker 1: this doll, it's sort of like a little baby. It's
[32:52] Speaker 1: so cute, it's oh, it's durable, it's like a little
[32:58] Speaker 1: white baby with a bonnet, and the tongue is kind
[33:04] Speaker 1: of sticking out a little bit. Why is it gen z?
[33:08] Speaker 1: What makes it? Is the tongue very gen z? Are
[33:12] Speaker 1: you gen z?
[33:13] Speaker 2: No?
[33:14] Speaker 1: Okay?
[33:14] Speaker 2: Are you a millennial too?
[33:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't ask me that.
[33:19] Speaker 2: Why Why three? You're thirty three?
[33:25] Speaker 1: How old are you?
[33:26] Speaker 2: Thirty one?
[33:27] Speaker 1: Okay? So here's what it says. It says this is
[33:30] Speaker 1: a very aggressive and angry spirit. He just swears and cusses,
[33:36] Speaker 1: and he gives ridiculous answers. He claims to be a
[33:41] Speaker 1: prince trapped in this doll. He says that he's a fairy.
[33:46] Speaker 1: He will grant a wish to anyone who will release him,
[33:49] Speaker 1: and whoever doesn't will be cursed. He says he is
[33:54] Speaker 1: hundreds of years old. He can be very vulgar and lude.
[33:58] Speaker 1: He locks doors, leaves faucets running. He pushes cups out
[34:03] Speaker 1: of my cabinets and breaks them. I've had objects thrown
[34:06] Speaker 1: at me or pushed off a shelf onto my head.
[34:10] Speaker 1: He knocked down my shower curtain on my head. He
[34:13] Speaker 1: has scratched and bitten me. I've woken up with bite
[34:16] Speaker 1: marks on my arm. He has a very deep voice. Okay,
[34:20] Speaker 1: so he's going for fifty four to ninety nine?
[34:23] Speaker 2: What?
[34:24] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[34:25] Speaker 2: Wait? So how does how does the doll? Like, does
[34:27] Speaker 2: the doll bite you?
[34:29] Speaker 1: Or I think it's the angry spirit that's in there,
[34:32] Speaker 1: Like I think you'll just have a bite up here
[34:34] Speaker 1: because you're because you have it in your home.
[34:36] Speaker 2: So the voice is coming from like within the doll. Yeah,
[34:40] Speaker 2: that's crazy.
[34:41] Speaker 1: And he's like very vulgar. So he's just like a
[34:44] Speaker 1: fucking bitch.
[34:46] Speaker 2: How how would you get rid of that? Like, how
[34:49] Speaker 2: would you if you got if you involuntarily had a
[34:51] Speaker 2: doll like that? How would you get rid of it?
[34:54] Speaker 2: Out of the spirit? I guess because you can't throw
[34:56] Speaker 2: the dollway.
[34:57] Speaker 1: Oh you sell it, you by and then it's the
[34:59] Speaker 1: next person problem.
[35:01] Speaker 2: So that's what they're doing. That's they're just like I'm
[35:03] Speaker 2: tired of this fifty bucks.
[35:05] Speaker 1: Oh boh huh not even they're just like fifty oh.
[35:09] Speaker 1: I know they did say our best offers that's on here.
[35:12] Speaker 2: So wouldn't the best offer be like, I'll take it
[35:14] Speaker 2: off your hands for free. I wouldn't you stop hurting you?
[35:17] Speaker 2: I know?
[35:17] Speaker 1: But no, they definitely don't like I'm gonna at least
[35:20] Speaker 1: get fifty dollars out of those. My gosh, yeah it's vulgar,
[35:23] Speaker 1: which I kind of love, but I like vulgar.
[35:28] Speaker 2: You want then buy it's my card? Buy it.
[35:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, let me boil because I'll get it.
[35:36] Speaker 2: Because something that's crazy. Yeah, So would you get a
[35:40] Speaker 2: priest for it? Like, would you want a priest? Like
[35:43] Speaker 2: if it got too much? What would you get for it?
[35:46] Speaker 1: If it got to be too much, I would sell it,
[35:50] Speaker 1: but I would mark it up. I would, I would really.
[35:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to make something.
[35:54] Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, anyway, can I play you some haunted ghost voices?
[35:58] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, please, it's time for EVP.
[36:04] Speaker 1: Or ev please. Have you ever heard the term EVP?
[36:10] Speaker 1: It stands for Electronic voice phenomenal. So it's like when
[36:15] Speaker 1: on ghost hunting shows people are like, it just said something,
[36:19] Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, it's like it just said it's
[36:23] Speaker 1: gonna kill me. That just said it was the fuck me. Yeah,
[36:29] Speaker 1: So that is pretty much what an EVP is. And
[36:33] Speaker 1: I go to YouTube and I find two EVPs that
[36:37] Speaker 1: I'm gonna play for you, Okay, so just listen on
[36:41] Speaker 1: This one comes from someone on YouTube named Curse Them Okay,
[36:48] Speaker 1: what is it saying? Okay, that's terrifying. What is that
[36:58] Speaker 1: ghost saying? I'm sorry, we really just went into hearing
[37:02] Speaker 1: a demon from.
[37:03] Speaker 2: Hell and you know what it's saying already.
[37:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to give you an abc D option,
[37:10] Speaker 1: but I'm curious. Do you have any guesses?
[37:14] Speaker 2: Well, at first I thought I said early morning. Yeah,
[37:20] Speaker 2: I've had an early Yeah, bitches before coffee?
[37:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe for my espresso.
[37:28] Speaker 2: Okay, options, Okay, that's not what cursed them thought.
[37:33] Speaker 1: Do they think it was a I'm a bad boy?
[37:37] Speaker 1: B let them play? Like, let them play?
[37:43] Speaker 2: Do they think it was C and a boy?
[37:47] Speaker 1: Or D I'm unemployed?
[37:53] Speaker 2: Those are the options.
[37:54] Speaker 1: Those are the options. It's one of those, I'm a
[37:58] Speaker 1: bad boy, let them play a boy, or I'm unemployed.
[38:05] Speaker 2: I'm between B and D. I'm gonna go with B.
[38:12] Speaker 1: It was between B and D because it's c at
[38:15] Speaker 1: a at a boy. Really, that's what they heard. One
[38:23] Speaker 1: more time, let me give you another one. This one
[38:30] Speaker 1: was supposed by someone named Blurt, and it's in their
[38:34] Speaker 1: apartment while they were recording some singing stuff and then
[38:40] Speaker 1: all of a sudden they heard this on the recording.
[38:46] Speaker 2: The words.
[38:51] Speaker 1: Confidential. That's not what they thought. Did they think it
[38:57] Speaker 1: was a grouse feet?
[38:59] Speaker 2: I would cry.
[39:00] Speaker 1: I would cry if they said that be go to sleep,
[39:05] Speaker 1: see girl please? Or d ground beef. Maybe it was
[39:13] Speaker 1: a ghost of Charlie's.
[39:21] Speaker 2: Go to sleep, because.
[39:23] Speaker 1: That's correct, that's what they thought it was. I hear
[39:26] Speaker 1: roast beef.
[39:27] Speaker 2: Wait a second, if I hear all of them once,
[39:32] Speaker 2: you say it, I know, right, Let me wait late,
[39:34] Speaker 2: let me see again. I heard call your eggs, call
[39:40] Speaker 2: your eggs. We do right now.
[39:43] Speaker 1: Let's call your eggs. So fun, Let's call your eggs
[39:46] Speaker 1: and play these.
[39:47] Speaker 2: Gross face imagine.
[39:50] Speaker 1: Okay, let me just do one last thing with you.
[39:53] Speaker 1: It's so interesting to hear about how your mind works.
[39:56] Speaker 1: Tell me about your thoughts on you.
[40:01] Speaker 2: Oh, I I wasn't ask you to the same thing
[40:07] Speaker 2: before I came. Yeah, because when I wasn't ask you
[40:10] Speaker 2: about like Vegas, about not Vegas, but Nevada in that area. Yeah,
[40:15] Speaker 2: fifty win is what it is.
[40:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, they love it over there.
[40:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I believe in them. I feel like
[40:21] Speaker 2: they're like there's sometimes did you see that video from
[40:25] Speaker 2: I think it was Florida? Do you know what I'm
[40:27] Speaker 2: talking about?
[40:28] Speaker 1: The video, it was like I've seen some videos from Florida.
[40:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like damn, I can't even remember, but
[40:36] Speaker 2: it was like I felt like it was like a UFO,
[40:37] Speaker 2: like there was like hell aliens and shit.
[40:41] Speaker 1: And you believe it.
[40:42] Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think.
[40:43] Speaker 1: It's so hard because everything is a I know, like
[40:47] Speaker 1: I think all the time, if I captured a ghost
[40:50] Speaker 1: or an alien, everyone be like, that's just a I
[40:53] Speaker 1: that's fair.
[40:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's hard to say.
[40:56] Speaker 2: So if any of my pictures get leaked, it was AI,
[41:00] Speaker 2: it's AI.
[41:01] Speaker 1: Absolutely. I guess that is the one plus side because
[41:05] Speaker 1: there could be a video of you're doing some crazy
[41:07] Speaker 1: shit that.
[41:08] Speaker 2: I would never do.
[41:10] Speaker 1: Never. But do you believe that there are aliens like
[41:14] Speaker 1: from another planet?
[41:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, there have to be, and they.
[41:18] Speaker 1: Come down here.
[41:19] Speaker 2: They go to Nevada, right, Nevada of all places, the
[41:23] Speaker 2: Silver State.
[41:25] Speaker 1: I love it.
[41:26] Speaker 2: I feel like there is because like, bro, do you
[41:29] Speaker 2: ever think about like do you fly a lot? You
[41:32] Speaker 2: do hung your PJA, Like whenever I fly commercial, I
[41:36] Speaker 2: think about like fuck, like we're so far from like
[41:39] Speaker 2: imagine how much I don't know you think about like
[41:41] Speaker 2: the galaxy and stuff like we should have been getting
[41:43] Speaker 2: high right now, there's for sure, there's for sure. Would
[41:50] Speaker 2: you go like if like if aliens came to abduct you,
[41:53] Speaker 2: would you go with them?
[41:54] Speaker 1: Yeah? Get me out of here for real. My thoughts
[41:58] Speaker 1: on that is already know what's going on here? Yeah,
[42:02] Speaker 1: I don't know what's over there, but I'm.
[42:04] Speaker 2: You're willing to risk it.
[42:05] Speaker 1: I'm willing to stay there. Yeah.
[42:07] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, imagine.
[42:09] Speaker 1: I just feel like I would be really especially if
[42:13] Speaker 1: I'm the only earthling.
[42:15] Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.
[42:17] Speaker 1: I would be like such a big deal.
[42:19] Speaker 2: Right right, right right, yeah, I know.
[42:23] Speaker 1: So yeah, even if there were just like five of
[42:27] Speaker 1: us up there or something like, you'd be elite, we'd
[42:29] Speaker 1: be so special.
[42:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[42:32] Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm way down. I don't know if I
[42:34] Speaker 1: be tell me about this. What do you think about horoscopes?
[42:37] Speaker 1: Are you into that?
[42:39] Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. I am. I was talking to
[42:41] Speaker 2: my friend yesterday and my friend Chris, him and I
[42:44] Speaker 2: were born like minutes apart, right, we had like the
[42:48] Speaker 2: same day obviously, October thirteenth.
[42:52] Speaker 1: Libra.
[42:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a Libra.
[42:54] Speaker 1: Tell ye, I'm seven days after you, seven days.
[43:00] Speaker 2: You're the twentieth. Oh sure you gave me like yeah,
[43:04] Speaker 2: and you're not gonna believe you.
[43:05] Speaker 1: Got me all wrong. You think I'm Beverly Hill.
[43:07] Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I was gonna say you're like
[43:09] Speaker 2: after the twentieth I could tell, but you're not gonna
[43:12] Speaker 2: believe me because you said.
[43:13] Speaker 1: On the twentieth. But you know, so you believe in
[43:18] Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
[43:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense.
[43:20] Speaker 1: What about like coincidences? Are you somebody that you you
[43:25] Speaker 1: read into it or you go like, oh, that has
[43:28] Speaker 1: to mean something.
[43:28] Speaker 2: I think it means something, really, I do. I think
[43:31] Speaker 2: it means something. I think when whenever I feel like
[43:34] Speaker 2: there's like you know, I love those videos. It's like
[43:37] Speaker 2: you know those videos that say like and we still met.
[43:40] Speaker 2: Have you seen those anybody? I'm not on my phone
[43:42] Speaker 2: like that all of a sudden, No, and we still
[43:45] Speaker 2: met And it has like like hella trains passing by
[43:49] Speaker 2: and like hell a people and like area and it's
[43:51] Speaker 2: like and we still met.
[43:52] Speaker 1: Easy that It's cute, Okay, Yeah, No, I do think
[43:56] Speaker 1: about stuff like that where you're like, true, how were
[43:59] Speaker 1: we in the same place at the.
[44:01] Speaker 2: Same and like decisions that we made were like if
[44:04] Speaker 2: we wouldn't have And I think about that all the
[44:05] Speaker 2: time since ever since I started doing like content because
[44:08] Speaker 2: before this, my last job was at a news station
[44:13] Speaker 2: in Nevada, in Reno, and I think about, like, fuck,
[44:17] Speaker 2: I imagine if I would have never made that one video,
[44:20] Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here un ghosted.
[44:22] Speaker 1: Was there a reason that you made that video when
[44:24] Speaker 1: you made it?
[44:25] Speaker 2: Or like the only reason I made it was because
[44:28] Speaker 2: I had only made a TikTok account. You know had
[44:32] Speaker 2: him Ray Okay, yeah, he he started putting those skits
[44:36] Speaker 2: and I was like, I saw them on Twitter, and
[44:39] Speaker 2: I was like, I have to download TikTok now because
[44:40] Speaker 2: I hate downloading apps because I have no room. And
[44:43] Speaker 2: I was like, I have to download it now because
[44:44] Speaker 2: I need to see more of the skits, the Rosa videos.
[44:47] Speaker 2: That's the only reason. And so I only made one
[44:50] Speaker 2: video because because I never done any sort of skits,
[44:53] Speaker 2: no comedy. I was like, I studied journalism.
[44:55] Speaker 1: And so you didn't even do comedy at all.
[44:57] Speaker 2: No comedy. No, I've never done you know, prodigy. So
[45:02] Speaker 2: I was like, I want to learn how to do
[45:03] Speaker 2: I just want to see if like the green screen
[45:05] Speaker 2: thing will work on iMovie. And I made a random
[45:08] Speaker 2: video on the green screen. I worked the weather wall
[45:10] Speaker 2: and that video like got traction, and so I was like.
[45:13] Speaker 1: And then you could quit.
[45:15] Speaker 2: No, I still worked there for like the whole year,
[45:17] Speaker 2: all of twenty twenty. Ye had twenty twenty Wow, and
[45:21] Speaker 2: I didn't. I was like, I didn't know what I
[45:23] Speaker 2: that I wanted to do this. I didn't think I
[45:24] Speaker 2: would be in la ever because I was like, I
[45:26] Speaker 2: was content. I was perfectly content.
[45:28] Speaker 1: What were you doing at the news station?
[45:30] Speaker 2: I was a pa.
[45:31] Speaker 1: Did they ever do stories about aliens? No? The aliens
[45:35] Speaker 1: don't go to Reno's.
[45:37] Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess it's just not top of mind in news. Yeah,
[45:42] Speaker 2: but yeah, so I think about that, Like you like
[45:44] Speaker 2: the numbers stuff.
[45:46] Speaker 1: Like looking into numbers, I keep seeing the same numbers.
[45:51] Speaker 2: I'm seeing them right now. What twos and threes?
[45:54] Speaker 1: Because you're looking at a ten.
[45:57] Speaker 2: We'll right back.
[45:58] Speaker 1: No, for twos and threes? Where are you saying? Why
[46:01] Speaker 1: are you saying?
[46:02] Speaker 2: Like in life not here? Like oh like the last
[46:05] Speaker 2: few days and one one one one. You don't like that,
[46:09] Speaker 2: you don't see that?
[46:09] Speaker 1: No, Sometimes I do wonder what it means, but I
[46:13] Speaker 1: don't really. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure in my lifetime
[46:15] Speaker 1: I've had moments where I'm like yeah, no, I'm with you. No,
[46:22] Speaker 1: I love I love all that kind of stuff. I love.
[46:26] Speaker 1: I keep hearing this. I was just thinking about this
[46:29] Speaker 1: person and then all of a sudden, I saw that.
[46:31] Speaker 2: For real, I do like but for I mean because
[46:34] Speaker 2: for me, I think I am like have like intuition.
[46:37] Speaker 2: You don't like that.
[46:38] Speaker 1: I have major intuition, Yes.
[46:42] Speaker 2: I I I think we have different ones. I think
[46:46] Speaker 2: it's because we're libras. We probably don't have the same ones.
[46:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because we're competitive, lokey okay.
[46:53] Speaker 2: You see, you don't even know that you're learning this.
[46:55] Speaker 1: I don't know, but my intuition is telling me I'm winning.
[47:00] Speaker 2: That's that libro part I. I uh know. I I
[47:04] Speaker 2: see a lot of like a lot of like, uh,
[47:08] Speaker 2: I don't know, there's a lot of things that like
[47:09] Speaker 2: naturally just like I'm like, like the end of the day,
[47:12] Speaker 2: I thought about my homie and he texted me, Yeah,
[47:15] Speaker 2: I like, but it's like that constantly.
[47:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, constantly. That's because you're you're in I think when
[47:21] Speaker 1: you're in touch with it, you get more of it.
[47:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[47:25] Speaker 1: I think there's like people, even even if it's just
[47:29] Speaker 1: a phase you're going through where you're like you don't have.
[47:32] Speaker 1: You don't have I hate the word faith, but it's
[47:34] Speaker 1: like you don't have like faith and the universe and
[47:38] Speaker 1: all the things that it has for you. And but
[47:41] Speaker 1: when you are tapped into it, I think you start
[47:43] Speaker 1: realizing how much of it is happening.
[47:45] Speaker 2: Yeah. I even when I had started uh doing the content,
[47:50] Speaker 2: I was super scared because I was like, I don't
[47:51] Speaker 2: know what I want to I don't know what I'm doing.
[47:53] Speaker 2: And then I started saying like, it's certain numbers. Well
[47:56] Speaker 2: you know what. I actually started seeing numbers before I
[47:58] Speaker 2: moved to Nevada. When still living in California, my therapist
[48:02] Speaker 2: had told me about the numbers. Do you therapy?
[48:04] Speaker 1: Mm hm betterhelp dot com slash ghosted yeh.
[48:09] Speaker 2: I haven't found a therapist since I got to LA.
[48:12] Speaker 2: There's not in my network.
[48:13] Speaker 1: Do better help because you can find one anywhere.
[48:16] Speaker 2: But I need to see someone in person. I love
[48:18] Speaker 2: the concept of better help, that's great, but for my needs,
[48:24] Speaker 2: I need to sit with someone. But anyways, Yeah, I
[48:27] Speaker 2: saw a lot of numbers and I still do. I
[48:29] Speaker 2: still I started seeing them again and then I start
[48:32] Speaker 2: to wonder, like, oh, okay, I think I need to work
[48:33] Speaker 2: on this thing. I need to I think I need
[48:36] Speaker 2: to pull back on this or press into that.
[48:38] Speaker 1: You know, what do you think about Bigfoot?
[48:42] Speaker 2: I haven't put much thought into it.
[48:44] Speaker 1: Or the Night Crawlers.
[48:46] Speaker 2: The Night Crawlers I could have gone without learning about.
[48:50] Speaker 1: That, really, because this is a big thing I did
[48:54] Speaker 1: not know.
[48:55] Speaker 2: I thought.
[48:55] Speaker 1: You mean, like, check somebody right now from Fresno and
[48:58] Speaker 1: ask them if they've ever heard of the Frozen Night
[49:00] Speaker 1: Crawlers and say, is it weird that I've never heard
[49:04] Speaker 1: of this? Okay, that's crazy that Fresno has.
[49:07] Speaker 2: Okay, my friends had never heard of them.
[49:09] Speaker 1: That's not right away.
[49:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see because my friend is in the
[49:14] Speaker 2: other room and put never heard of them, and he
[49:17] Speaker 2: lives in Fresno.
[49:18] Speaker 1: Actively you think that I just made this all up?
[49:21] Speaker 1: Or what?
[49:22] Speaker 2: No, I see it? I see. I can call the
[49:25] Speaker 2: Fresne mayor maybe you.
[49:26] Speaker 1: Know the Fresne mayor.
[49:27] Speaker 2: No.
[49:29] Speaker 1: I love that Fresno has you the Night Crawlers and
[49:32] Speaker 1: Tyler Henry. That's crazy Hanford Hanford. Yeah, but they're not
[49:37] Speaker 1: the Hanford Night.
[49:38] Speaker 2: Crawlerssn has Andre McDonald Oh no way, yeah, okay.
[49:44] Speaker 1: When you just google it says the Fresno Nightcrawlers are
[49:48] Speaker 1: a modern cryptid from Fresnoe, California, first appearing in two
[49:53] Speaker 1: thousand and seven in a grainy video that went viral.
[49:57] Speaker 1: They were described as pale to legged creatures that resemble
[50:01] Speaker 1: walking pants with long legs and no visible upper body.
[50:07] Speaker 1: While their existence is unverified, they have sparked wide ranging
[50:13] Speaker 1: public fascination, with various shows, videos, and merchandise dedicated to
[50:19] Speaker 1: the mysterious figures. This is just like the AI Google answer.
[50:25] Speaker 2: That's crazy, yeah, but two thousand and seven, like that's
[50:29] Speaker 2: not even og no.
[50:30] Speaker 1: But they're back, like people are always post about it.
[50:33] Speaker 2: Really, I have never and I hope that doesn't come
[50:35] Speaker 2: up one night because I live alone.
[50:37] Speaker 1: Well now it's good fris No night Crawlers. You're gonna
[50:41] Speaker 1: get a bunch of that tonight.
[50:43] Speaker 2: Oh no, good thing. I don't be on my phone
[50:45] Speaker 2: like that.
[50:45] Speaker 1: I think we're done. Thank you so much, thanks for coming.
[50:50] Speaker 1: I hope this didn't let you down. That I didn't
[50:52] Speaker 1: really not really psychic.
[50:54] Speaker 2: And no, you know what, but.
[50:56] Speaker 1: I did teach you about something I told you about
[50:57] Speaker 1: the Presdent Nightcrawlers.
[50:59] Speaker 2: You did teach me about that, and and I and
[51:01] Speaker 2: I and we had a good conversation about stuff that
[51:04] Speaker 2: I don't talk to people on the daily about.
[51:06] Speaker 1: It's not fun. I think it's good. I think it's
[51:08] Speaker 1: good to talk about it.
[51:09] Speaker 2: Yeah you stretched them muscle.
[51:12] Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well that's it. Thank you, Thank you
[51:20] Speaker 1: so much to Leo. He is a funny one. And
[51:25] Speaker 1: the Fresno Nightcrawlers, this is a real thing. I feel
[51:31] Speaker 1: gas lit. I feel like all these people from Fresno
[51:34] Speaker 1: have never heard of the Fresno Nightcrawlers. I don't know
[51:36] Speaker 1: what to believe anymore. Are they not even real? Google
[51:41] Speaker 1: them so you know what I'm talking about, and you
[51:43] Speaker 1: can see they just look like two big white pairs
[51:46] Speaker 1: of fancy pants walking by themselves. Anyway, I love you,
[51:51] Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you
[51:54] Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came back. This has
[52:05] Speaker 1: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal
[52:09] Speaker 1: experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and
[52:13] Speaker 1: sometimes I'll even call you. So email me at ghosted
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