# The Long Middle: Marisa Renee Lee on Grief, Uncertainty, and Hope

An episode of [The Motherly Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1449924733), 7 May 2026, 43 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6493182e810398001135b8c5/e/69fc93eb2b71c054a3490714/media.mp3

In this episode, Liz speaks with bestselling author and grief advocate Marisa Renee Lee about her new book, Waiting for Dawn: Living with Uncertainty — a deeply personal exploration of what comes after loss. Marisa opens up about navigating adoption while living with long COVID, and how hope, love, and humility can carry us through even the darkest seasons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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