# Forrest Galante On NELK Boys Backlash, Hooking Up On Naked & Afraid, $3B Secret Animal Sanctuary

An episode of [Impaulsive with Logan Paul](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1442164847), 29 Jul 2025, 1 h 13 min.

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Survival expert & wildlife biologist Forrest Galante joins the boys to discuss Nelk Boys backlash, the Ambani family's INSANE animal sanctuary, 100 Humans vs 1 Gorilla, bringing back the Woolley Mammoth & Dodo Bird from extinction, near-death experiences from animals, competing on ‘Naked & Afraid’, the 2 most dangerous animals ON EARTH, visiting the infamous North Sentinel Island, p*rn ruining indigenous tribes & more.. SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ► https://www.youtube.com/impaulsive Watch Previous (Drew McIntyre On Tag-Team w/ Logan Paul, Hate For Roman Reigns & CM Punk, Vince McMahon VS Triple H) ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFl3_5J72Qg ADD US ON: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/impaulsiveshow/ Timestamps: 0:00 Welcome Forrest Galante! 💥 1:45 Bringing Mammoths, Wolves & Dodo Birds Back From EXTINCTION! 🦤 3:22 The Truth About Naked & Afraid..🍆 8:38 Forrest Slept with a Giraffe..🦒 10:01 Private Tour of Indian Billionaire’s Secret Animal Sanctuary! 🐅 14:12 Why You SHOULDN’T Visit The North Sentinel Island..🏝️ 17:18 NELK Boys Backlash..💨 19:16 P*rn Ruining Modern-Day Tribes 🍑 26:02 Forrest’s Sad Story About Getting Removed From Zimbabwe..😢 32:09 The 2 MOST DANGEROUS ANIMALS in the World! 🦟 32:30 “Pablo Escobar Brought 4 Hippos to Columbia..”🦛 37:24 100 Humans VS 1 Gorilla? 🦍 38:30 100 Humans VS 1 Polar Bear? 🐻❄️ 40:13 What’s Earth’s Apex Predator? 🐘 42:35 Forrest’s Near-Death Experience with a SNAKE! 🐍 49:49 Finding The RAREST CREATURE on EARTH! 🧬 52:17 Why The Galápagos Island Is So Special..👀 53:24 Is Logan Paul BANNED from the Pyramids of Egypt? 𓀀 1:00:06 What ‘Extinct’ Animals Might Still Be Out There?? 🔍 1:02:29 iShowSpeed x Forrest Collab?? 🤣 1:06:18 How to Recover From Travel Burnout ✈️ 1:07:35 Forrest Gives Mike Advice on Starting a Family 🍼 1:09:54 Forrest’s Advice to You! 💙 PLEASE NOTE Impaulsive is a significant break from the typical content viewers have come to expect from the vlog channel & we could not be more proud and excited to watch this unfold and grow. Please be advised that we will be exploring a wide variety of topics (some adult-themed) and our younger viewers (and their parents) should be advised that some topics will be for mature audiences only. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, it's Forrest Galante.
[0:02] Speaker 2: The first TV thing I ever did, this silly survival
[0:05] Speaker 2: show where you run around naked and see if you
[0:07] Speaker 2: can survive in the jungle.
[0:08] Speaker 3: I just did that in Ibiza for the past two weeks.
[0:11] Speaker 2: Literally 24 hours ago, I was sleeping, this is going
[0:14] Speaker 2: to come out wrong, with a giraffe.
[0:16] Speaker 4: She was nice though.
[0:18] Speaker 2: Those little pygmy hippos, when they grow up, they're probably
[0:20] Speaker 2: the meanest animal on planet Earth. Every time I'm around
[0:23] Speaker 2: these things, they try to kill me.
[0:26] Speaker 1: You went with the Nelk Boys to an uncontacted tribe.
[0:28] Speaker 1: They gave them a vape.
[0:29] Speaker 4: Oh, they loved it.
[0:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[0:31] Speaker 2: The Ambani family contacted me and said, we'd like to
[0:33] Speaker 2: invite you to this incredible facility in India.
[0:35] Speaker 4: The animals are eating better than I am.
[0:37] Speaker 1: That's insane. 100 humans versus one gorilla. Who's winning?
[0:40] Speaker 2: A gorilla will smash. It'll destroy everything in this room,
[0:42] Speaker 2: but then it's going to gas out.
[0:43] Speaker 1: What if the gorilla trained cardio?
[0:45] Speaker 2: Long story made short, I do this whole song and
[0:47] Speaker 2: dance trying to catch the snake and I'm just about
[0:49] Speaker 2: to turn and look this way and I just feel
[0:51] Speaker 2: the thing starts crawling up my neck and that venom,
[0:54] Speaker 2: I think it said like one drop has the potency
[0:56] Speaker 2: to kill a thousand people.
[1:06] Speaker 5: Jorge's like, dude, we got a hard out at 350,
[1:08] Speaker 5: which is in 41 minutes, which is not enough amount
[1:11] Speaker 5: of time to fully dissect this podcast with this guy
[1:14] Speaker 5: right here.
[1:15] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, it's Forrest Galante.
[1:16] Speaker 2: Wow.
[1:17] Speaker 3: Woo.
[1:19] Speaker 4: That's some hype right there.
[1:20] Speaker 3: I like it.
[1:20] Speaker 4: Right into the fire, buddy.
[1:21] Speaker 1: Welcome.
[1:22] Speaker 4: Sorry.
[1:23] Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, bro, come on, we
[1:24] Speaker 1: can show up to Kimbo a little late. And he
[1:26] Speaker 1: gave me a look. And now he's telling me the
[1:28] Speaker 1: talent arrives when the talent arrives.
[1:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's what you want. That's what you want.
[1:32] Speaker 3: 100%.
[1:32] Speaker 1: He's like a heel.
[1:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:34] Speaker 4: He's like a heel, bro.
[1:36] Speaker 3: Dude, how are you?
[1:37] Speaker 4: I'm really good, guys. Thanks for having me. This is fun.
[1:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, man. Yeah. Dude, you're active.
[1:42] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[1:42] Speaker 4: We move around a lot. I just flew in from
[1:44] Speaker 4: Texas right now for this.
[1:45] Speaker 1: I feel like Texas is probably the most tame place
[1:47] Speaker 1: that you've.
[1:48] Speaker 2: Well, I was at Colossal, which I heard from Ben
[1:51] Speaker 2: you've been to, and yeah, I didn't know there was
[1:53] Speaker 2: that connection.
[1:53] Speaker 1: I mean, the connection is just that I've been there.
[1:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something.
[1:57] Speaker 1: But I will say, huge fan of what they're doing.
[1:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool.
[2:00] Speaker 1: Super intrigued.
[2:01] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:01] Speaker 1: Is it really a dire wolf?
[2:03] Speaker 2: I mean, yes, according to the genetics, right? So I mean,
[2:06] Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of controversy. I'm not a geneticist,
[2:09] Speaker 2: but it sure looks cool.
[2:10] Speaker 3: Totally. What the hell are you guys talking about?
[2:12] Speaker 4: That's sick, man. Sick job, guys.
[2:17] Speaker 2: Just leaving you out right out of the gate, Mike.
[2:20] Speaker 1: It's the de-extinction company.
[2:22] Speaker 5: The one that got super famous for basically genetically engineering
[2:27] Speaker 5: this dire wolf.
[2:28] Speaker 3: Exactly.
[2:29] Speaker 1: A species that has been extinct for 10,000 years.
[2:30] Speaker 3: Can they bring back the dodo bird?
[2:32] Speaker 4: They are.
[2:33] Speaker 3: Yes, they are. Now, if I can get involved with
[2:35] Speaker 3: that project, I would love it. I don't care about
[2:37] Speaker 3: a dead wolf, whatever it is, but a dodo bird,
[2:40] Speaker 3: I would like to be.
[2:41] Speaker 1: On that project.
[2:42] Speaker 4: It's in the pipeline.
[2:43] Speaker 1: Allegedly a woolly mammoth, Mikey?
[2:45] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:45] Speaker 3: That's cool, too.
[2:46] Speaker 4: 2028 now, they're saying.
[2:47] Speaker 1: What's the big bird? The moa.
[2:49] Speaker 4: The giant ground bird from New Zealand, like 11 feet tall.
[2:52] Speaker 3: Does that have a bigger wingspan than the albatross? No wings.
[2:56] Speaker 4: No wings?
[2:57] Speaker 2: The only giant bird, because even ostriches have weird little wings.
[3:01] Speaker 4: This thing has no wings.
[3:02] Speaker 3: What does it have?
[3:03] Speaker 1: Nothing.
[3:03] Speaker 3: It's just.
[3:05] Speaker 4: out with big bird from sesame street.
[3:07] Speaker 2: No i hope so they should make it really cool
[3:12] Speaker 2: no arms no arms nothing here like just a body
[3:16] Speaker 2: with legs yep.
[3:17] Speaker 4: And a head and a neck and a head.
[3:18] Speaker 3: Like crazy hamburglar almost wait can i ask you a
[3:21] Speaker 3: question so you have a you have a 8.8 uh
[3:24] Speaker 3: primitive survival rating.
[3:27] Speaker 4: Oh, there you go. Yeah, I suppose so.
[3:29] Speaker 3: No, it's crazy because, like, we have people on all
[3:31] Speaker 3: the time, and they always have, like, different, like, metrics
[3:33] Speaker 3: for success.
[3:34] Speaker 4: They're in, like, the sixes.
[3:35] Speaker 3: X amount of followers or, like, oh, they scored this
[3:38] Speaker 3: many touchdowns in the Super Bowl. You just come on
[3:40] Speaker 3: with that 8.8. That's, like, a big swinging dick around
[3:44] Speaker 3: these parts, bro.
[3:45] Speaker 4: You know, that's what I say.
[3:47] Speaker 3: Because, dude, like, for example, bro, he's got a dad
[3:50] Speaker 3: like many of us do, and his dad, his name's
[3:54] Speaker 3: Greg Paul. And he would consider himself to be somewhat
[3:57] Speaker 3: of a survivalist, right?
[3:59] Speaker 4: Okay, I like that.
[4:00] Speaker 3: But, I mean, dude, if you put him in a
[4:02] Speaker 3: room with you, dude, or not a room, maybe a
[4:05] Speaker 3: forest or like a swamplands or something like that, I
[4:08] Speaker 3: can't imagine he'd be more than a– what do you
[4:11] Speaker 3: think Greg would get on a– how do you get
[4:14] Speaker 3: that rating?
[4:15] Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I think we got to
[4:16] Speaker 2: just throw Greg out there and see what happens. But yeah,
[4:19] Speaker 2: I mean, the first TV thing I ever did, this
[4:22] Speaker 2: is going back nearly 10 years ago now, was Naked
[4:24] Speaker 2: and Afraid, which is where I got that score, which
[4:27] Speaker 2: is this silly survival show. where you run around naked
[4:30] Speaker 2: and see if you can survive in the jungle for
[4:32] Speaker 2: 21 days.
[4:32] Speaker 3: I just did that in Ibiza for the past two weeks.
[4:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, but we came back with different diseases.
[4:37] Speaker 5: And everyone was afraid of him.
[4:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they were surviving you.
[4:42] Speaker 3: You guys got me feeling ostracized again. Okay, so yeah,
[4:47] Speaker 3: go ahead. Sorry, my bad. No, you're good.
[4:49] Speaker 2: So yeah, so I just, I went down to Panama
[4:52] Speaker 2: and I treated it like a vacation. And I don't
[4:54] Speaker 2: mean to sound arrogant, but It wasn't that difficult. I
[4:57] Speaker 2: knew the landscape.
[4:58] Speaker 4: I had fun.
[4:59] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[4:59] Speaker 4: And that's why I got that super high score.
[5:01] Speaker 5: Brother, that's insane. Because let me tell you something. Survival
[5:04] Speaker 5: show fanatic.
[5:05] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah?
[5:05] Speaker 1: Survival show fanatic.
[5:07] Speaker 4: No way.
[5:07] Speaker 1: Oh, and I know how hard it is for most people.
[5:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[5:09] Speaker 1: You're saying it wasn't that hard.
[5:11] Speaker 4: I literally treated it like a vacation.
[5:13] Speaker 3: Did you?
[5:13] Speaker 4: It was easier than work. That's insane.
[5:16] Speaker 2: What?
[5:16] Speaker 3: Did you get lucky, though? Like, let me ask you
[5:18] Speaker 3: that question again. like you say you knew the landscape.
[5:22] Speaker 3: So like you obviously have some understanding of Panama, how
[5:25] Speaker 3: it works. Like if they had put you into like Siberia,
[5:28] Speaker 3: would you have scored as high?
[5:29] Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I did get lucky. I mean, I've
[5:32] Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in the tropics. I found
[5:34] Speaker 2: old journals from when they were building the Panama Canal
[5:37] Speaker 2: and the military put out survival guides for the people
[5:39] Speaker 2: building the Panama Canal and read those old journals. It's
[5:42] Speaker 2: interesting because I'm a biologist, right? So that's what I
[5:45] Speaker 2: do is I study wildlife biology. And I picked up
[5:47] Speaker 2: these journals and I just studied What are the common fruits, vegetables, animals,
[5:53] Speaker 2: things like that. And I'd been to Panama before and
[5:55] Speaker 2: I knew the jungle a little bit. And then in
[5:57] Speaker 2: addition to that, I got put on the coast and
[5:58] Speaker 2: I'm pretty good in the water. I do a lot
[6:00] Speaker 2: of diving and spearfishing and stuff. So those two things
[6:03] Speaker 2: just made it. like a kind of a tropical vacation.
[6:05] Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm not saying it wasn't hard. It
[6:07] Speaker 2: was still hard, but it wasn't, you know, the breakdown crying.
[6:11] Speaker 4: I'm miserable. I want to go home. I had none
[6:13] Speaker 4: of that.
[6:13] Speaker 1: Like everyone else.
[6:14] Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
[6:15] Speaker 1: And every other survival show.
[6:16] Speaker 4: And what every producer there told me to do. They're like,
[6:18] Speaker 4: you got to cry. You got to be upset. You
[6:20] Speaker 4: got to fight for your life. I'm like, why?
[6:21] Speaker 1: I'm chilling.
[6:22] Speaker 2: I was like, I got 30 pounds of potatoes back
[6:24] Speaker 2: at the hut.
[6:25] Speaker 4: I'm chilling. I'm good.
[6:27] Speaker 3: Okay.
[6:27] Speaker 1: But what about, I have to ask the being naked parts.
[6:29] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[6:30] Speaker 1: Pretty out there. No, I mean, especially with the wiener.
[6:33] Speaker 4: I mean, not when it's not very big like mine.
[6:35] Speaker 3: But.
[6:37] Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's.
[6:41] Speaker 2: Just, you know, you're over it in 10 minutes. It's like, yeah,
[6:44] Speaker 2: you're naked. You see this girl, she's naked. And then
[6:46] Speaker 2: you're like, right, we got, we got shit to do.
[6:48] Speaker 2: You know, we got a shelter to build food to
[6:49] Speaker 2: find that kind of thing.
[6:50] Speaker 1: Totally inappropriate question. I'm prefacing with.
[6:53] Speaker 3: No, it's good.
[6:54] Speaker 1: Was there any sexual tension? I have to ask, because
[6:57] Speaker 1: sometimes people, we watch these shows.
[6:58] Speaker 4: It's a good question. It's a good question.
[7:00] Speaker 1: Is there any, if there's chemistry, like how does that work?
[7:02] Speaker 4: For her, definitely not. Really? Yeah.
[7:06] Speaker 2: So we can leave it at that. But no, I mean, look,
[7:08] Speaker 2: she was a pretty girl. She just didn't have the
[7:11] Speaker 2: nicest personality. We weren't very compatible. So that nipped it
[7:15] Speaker 2: in the bud pretty quick.
[7:15] Speaker 3: Okay. Well, I could overlook that easy, dude.
[7:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, for one night. For one night, for sure.
[7:20] Speaker 2: But when you're stuck with them with nobody else to
[7:22] Speaker 2: talk to for 21 days.
[7:24] Speaker 4: It gets pretty old.
[7:25] Speaker 3: Why have they, and maybe they have, forgive me, producers,
[7:29] Speaker 3: if you have done this, but why haven't they done
[7:31] Speaker 3: like an all-stars one where they bring back like the
[7:35] Speaker 3: highest scoring?
[7:35] Speaker 4: They have. They have.
[7:36] Speaker 2: They've asked me a bazillion times. No, I'm just, sorry,
[7:40] Speaker 2: I didn't mean it like that. But they've asked me
[7:42] Speaker 2: a lot of times to do it. But I, you know,
[7:44] Speaker 2: I went from that. I never really wanted to do survival.
[7:46] Speaker 2: It's not my thing. I'm good at it.
[7:47] Speaker 4: I practice it.
[7:48] Speaker 2: But I like the wildlife stuff and the animal communication stuff.
[7:52] Speaker 2: So I started my own production company off of that.
[7:55] Speaker 2: and then rolled it into the Shark Weeks and the
[7:57] Speaker 2: Extinct or Alive and all the TV shows and social
[7:59] Speaker 2: media and stuff that I do now.
[8:01] Speaker 3: So you've kind of grown out of it a little bit.
[8:03] Speaker 4: Definitely, yeah.
[8:04] Speaker 1: You wouldn't do it alone?
[8:06] Speaker 4: No, I don't really see any purpose to.
[8:08] Speaker 1: The money? It's like half a million.
[8:10] Speaker 2: If you win, I like what I'm doing. I'd rather,
[8:12] Speaker 2: you know, to me, the money's not the most important thing.
[8:14] Speaker 2: I'd rather do what I'm doing, which is communicate like
[8:16] Speaker 2: this passion for wildlife and animals more than just spend
[8:19] Speaker 2: time surviving and being miserable.
[8:20] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:21] Speaker 1: Well, that's, that's a whole thing.
[8:22] Speaker 5: I mean, I mean like truly when I, when I
[8:24] Speaker 5: sat down, I said like to, to, to pretend we're
[8:26] Speaker 5: going to do this all in 40 minutes is, is,
[8:28] Speaker 5: is actually shameful. I like what you do is so rich.
[8:32] Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.
[8:33] Speaker 5: You have such a, such an insane career. And I,
[8:35] Speaker 5: now I hate this question when people ask it to me,
[8:36] Speaker 5: but I'm going to ask it to you.
[8:37] Speaker 3: Okay.
[8:38] Speaker 1: How would you even describe yourself?
[8:40] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:40] Speaker 4: I struggle with that too.
[8:41] Speaker 2: I mean, I, I like to humbly just say I'm
[8:44] Speaker 2: a wildlife biologist, but I think really on a bigger scale,
[8:48] Speaker 2: what I am is like a wildlife communicator.
[8:50] Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
[8:50] Speaker 2: Like I've color lions and move elephants and find extinct
[8:54] Speaker 2: species and work on ecosystem restoration and, uh, consult for
[8:59] Speaker 2: colossal biosciences.
[9:00] Speaker 5: Yep.
[9:01] Speaker 2: Work with this incredible facility in India that our friends,
[9:03] Speaker 2: the Nelk Boys came to. And I, you know, I
[9:06] Speaker 2: do all these various things and put it all together
[9:08] Speaker 2: somehow to make a living. But at the core of
[9:10] Speaker 2: everything I do is just trying to teach people about
[9:13] Speaker 2: wildlife and the outdoors.
[9:15] Speaker 4: That connects people to it.
[9:16] Speaker 1: For sure. Incredibly noble pursuit. I feel like not a
[9:19] Speaker 1: lot of people are.
[9:20] Speaker 2: And it's fun as shit. That's the thing too. Like
[9:22] Speaker 2: I live my dream every day. I'm very, very fortunate
[9:25] Speaker 2: in that regard. I get to travel around the world,
[9:27] Speaker 2: work with the most incredible speed. Literally 24 hours ago,
[9:30] Speaker 2: I was sleeping. This is going to come out wrong
[9:32] Speaker 2: with a giraffe.
[9:33] Speaker 3: Yeah oh brother can't say 2025 man yeah.
[9:37] Speaker 4: Yeah she was nice though um no i'm just kidding.
[9:40] Speaker 5: Where the hell is this the naked and afraid lady
[9:43] Speaker 5: it sounds like much um no i was at a
[9:46] Speaker 5: place in texas called oak meadow ranch that's like this
[9:49] Speaker 5: like you like hang out it's like an airbnb with
[9:51] Speaker 5: animals everywhere but it's really cool really noble cause and
[9:54] Speaker 5: stuff and i was there looking at their cheetah habitat
[9:56] Speaker 5: that they're building and stuff like that so it's like,
[9:58] Speaker 5: I get to do really, really cool and fun stuff.
[10:00] Speaker 4: So I'm very lucky.
[10:01] Speaker 1: We were at Ventara.
[10:03] Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.
[10:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[10:04] Speaker 1: A month before you guys.
[10:05] Speaker 4: That's right. I forgot about that.
[10:07] Speaker 1: Insane facility, the Ambani family in India.
[10:10] Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you like it?
[10:12] Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.
[10:13] Speaker 4: Mind blowing.
[10:14] Speaker 1: No, it's unbelievable. It made me realize like, There's levels
[10:18] Speaker 1: to this shit. Yeah.
[10:19] Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I try and describe it to
[10:21] Speaker 2: people and I'm definitely gonna get in trouble here, but it,
[10:24] Speaker 2: it like, just cause of the size and the scope
[10:26] Speaker 2: and the scale of it, it makes like the San
[10:28] Speaker 2: Diego zoo, the Singapore zoo, these incredible prestigious zoos look
[10:31] Speaker 2: like a roadside attraction.
[10:33] Speaker 1: It's insane.
[10:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[10:34] Speaker 4: The size and scale.
[10:35] Speaker 5: I mean, and, and it's built with so much taste, right?
[10:38] Speaker 5: It has, it has so much like, like elegance to
[10:40] Speaker 5: it as you're walking around.
[10:42] Speaker 1: It's, it's insane. How did you get them to allow
[10:45] Speaker 1: you to film and then post a video?
[10:48] Speaker 3: Yes.
[10:48] Speaker 2: So as you know, they're very like strict and secretive
[10:51] Speaker 2: about it all. So I actually I didn't even know
[10:54] Speaker 2: anything about it other than whisperings from various zoo people
[10:57] Speaker 2: and things like that. And then the Imbani family contacted
[11:00] Speaker 2: me and said, we'd like to invite you. And I
[11:02] Speaker 2: went I probably similar to what happened to you, I imagine.
[11:05] Speaker 2: And I just went and walked around it. And then
[11:08] Speaker 2: I had a meeting with Anat and he said, you know,
[11:10] Speaker 2: what do you think? And I don't know if you
[11:12] Speaker 2: met with him, but.
[11:13] Speaker 1: He wasn't there when.
[11:14] Speaker 4: Unfortunate.
[11:15] Speaker 5: I got to speak with him on the phone and.
[11:17] Speaker 4: Super cool guy.
[11:18] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[11:18] Speaker 2: But he just said to me, like, he's like, you know,
[11:20] Speaker 2: you work in conservation and animals. What do you think?
[11:23] Speaker 2: And I was very blunt. I was like, here are
[11:24] Speaker 2: the things that are wonderful. Here are the things that
[11:26] Speaker 2: could use improvement, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, okay.
[11:30] Speaker 2: What else do you think? And I was like, well,
[11:31] Speaker 2: if you want me to be honest, I know you've
[11:32] Speaker 2: never allowed cameras in here, but I think the world
[11:34] Speaker 2: should see this. It's such an incredible place. It's so noble.
[11:37] Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. You're doing such an amazing thing for
[11:41] Speaker 2: wildlife and for conservation. You're literally writing the playbook on
[11:44] Speaker 2: how to manage animals in captivity moving forward into the future.
[11:47] Speaker 4: And he's like, okay, do it. And I was like, wait, what?
[11:50] Speaker 2: He's like, if you want to bring your team and
[11:51] Speaker 2: film and put it out there, run it by my team.
[11:54] Speaker 2: But if you want to do it, do it. He's like,
[11:56] Speaker 2: I know who you are. I know the kind of
[11:57] Speaker 2: stories you tell. He's like, if you want to do it,
[11:59] Speaker 2: do it. No holds barred. Tell any story you want.
[12:01] Speaker 4: Go for it. And we did. And it was awesome.
[12:04] Speaker 5: The level of care they take of their animals is
[12:08] Speaker 5: nicer than I feel like some humans live.
[12:09] Speaker 1: And I mean that.
[12:10] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. It's unparalleled.
[12:12] Speaker 3: Unparalleled.
[12:13] Speaker 4: They eat better.
[12:13] Speaker 2: I mean, when I'm there, and this is not a
[12:16] Speaker 2: diss on them, but the animals are eating better than
[12:17] Speaker 2: I am.
[12:18] Speaker 3: No, seriously.
[12:18] Speaker 4: It's incredible.
[12:19] Speaker 3: All organic.
[12:19] Speaker 5: I see this elephant getting washed by four people at
[12:22] Speaker 5: one time.
[12:23] Speaker 1: Elephant just on his side.
[12:24] Speaker 4: The massage.
[12:25] Speaker 1: Elephants that have joint-ish elbows.
[12:31] Speaker 5: Elephants have like joint issues and like are basically withering away.
[12:34] Speaker 5: They let them float around in the pool so they
[12:36] Speaker 5: can like– Hydrotherapy pool.
[12:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[12:38] Speaker 1: It takes the weight off their joints.
[12:39] Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
[12:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane.
[12:40] Speaker 4: Mike, did you go on that?
[12:41] Speaker 3: No, I wasn't on that one unfortunately because it looked
[12:44] Speaker 3: like an incredible trip. I didn't go. Sorry, Logan. I
[12:46] Speaker 3: didn't mean to interrupt.
[12:47] Speaker 1: No, just a little context for the audience.
[12:49] Speaker 5: The Imbani family, the first time I had heard about
[12:51] Speaker 5: them was the wedding that they had.
[12:54] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[12:54] Speaker 1: One of the most expensive weddings in history.
[12:56] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[12:56] Speaker 5: Like– $ 250 million, $ 250 million, $ 250 million.
[13:01] Speaker 3: He's about to beat that, by the way.
[13:02] Speaker 4: Oh, there you go. Yeah, good luck. You got Bieber playing, too.
[13:07] Speaker 3: It's pretty close, bro, at this point.
[13:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[13:09] Speaker 1: I'm getting married next month.
[13:10] Speaker 4: Congratulations. That's awesome. In Puerto Rico?
[13:13] Speaker 1: In Lake Como. Oh, in Italy.
[13:15] Speaker 4: That's awesome.
[13:15] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:16] Speaker 4: Congrats, man.
[13:17] Speaker 1: Thanks, man.
[13:18] Speaker 3: He's never going to get this sentence out. Keep cutting
[13:20] Speaker 3: him off.
[13:21] Speaker 4: What, me?
[13:21] Speaker 1: No, that was it. That was it.
[13:23] Speaker 2: I don't know too much about the wedding, but all
[13:26] Speaker 2: I know is what I saw on the tabloids, and
[13:27] Speaker 2: it was this big show, and I think there was
[13:30] Speaker 2: a cruise or something.
[13:31] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[13:32] Speaker 4: I know Justin Bieber played it. I know that.
[13:34] Speaker 3: Was it Beyonce, too? Me?
[13:37] Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't there.
[13:39] Speaker 3: No, I know.
[13:40] Speaker 1: But he did say he would have invited me if
[13:41] Speaker 1: he had known me at the time. Next one. Catch
[13:45] Speaker 1: the next one. We tried to get a performer at
[13:48] Speaker 1: our wedding. Akon.
[13:49] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah?
[13:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, but then he asked for half a million dollars.
[13:51] Speaker 4: That'll nip that in the bud.
[13:52] Speaker 3: Well, he needs it to pay for that bankrupt city.
[13:57] Speaker 3: I mean, it did.
[13:58] Speaker 1: What happened to that damn crypto village? I know exactly
[14:02] Speaker 1: what happened.
[14:03] Speaker 4: Well, go ahead.
[14:04] Speaker 1: It just didn't work.
[14:05] Speaker 3: Oh, well, fair enough. No, I was crazy. Shout out Akon.
[14:08] Speaker 3: He was very kind.
[14:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's awesome.
[14:10] Speaker 3: Hey, if you keep getting access like this, dude, something
[14:12] Speaker 3: tells me more and more people are going to start saying,
[14:15] Speaker 3: we got to give access to that guy because he
[14:17] Speaker 3: did such a great job. And it leads me to
[14:19] Speaker 3: the question that's on the tip of every viewer's tongue,
[14:22] Speaker 3: all of the co-hosts, everyone in this room right now.
[14:25] Speaker 3: If you got access to go, oh my God, I
[14:27] Speaker 3: just got goosebumps, to North Sentinel Island, okay, which is,
[14:33] Speaker 3: Oh man. To me, like that's like the Mecca of
[14:36] Speaker 3: remote places. Okay. And they said, dude, we're going to
[14:38] Speaker 3: give you, I don't know how they're talking to you
[14:40] Speaker 3: by the way, but we're going to, bro, we're going
[14:42] Speaker 3: to give you access to come check out our digs.
[14:44] Speaker 3: Like if they hit you up somehow, would you do it?
[14:47] Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
[14:48] Speaker 2: I know.
[14:48] Speaker 3: I know. I know.
[14:49] Speaker 4: I know.
[14:50] Speaker 2: But can I explain myself? I wouldn't because that is
[14:53] Speaker 2: a culture. Do you know the origin of origin of
[14:56] Speaker 2: why they don't want anybody to come there?
[14:58] Speaker 3: Is it because of the lack of immunities to, to
[15:02] Speaker 3: everyday civilized illness?
[15:03] Speaker 2: So this is like, from my understanding and I might
[15:06] Speaker 2: get crucified here, but it's been very greenwashed as to
[15:08] Speaker 2: what actually happened. So what I've heard is that they
[15:13] Speaker 2: actually did invite missionaries in a very long time ago.
[15:16] Speaker 2: Like we're talking about like 80, a hundred plus years ago.
[15:18] Speaker 1: Okay.
[15:19] Speaker 2: And one of the very first groups of Westerners that
[15:22] Speaker 2: went there, I don't know if it was the missionary
[15:24] Speaker 2: or the priest or just an onlooker or whatever. ended
[15:28] Speaker 2: up being like a child.
[15:30] Speaker 3: You got to be. They brought Epstein to the island.
[15:34] Speaker 4: So they brought Epstein to the island. No laughing matter.
[15:40] Speaker 4: But no, so what happened was. They ruined it for everybody.
[15:43] Speaker 2: So what happened was the Sentinelese got really upset because
[15:46] Speaker 2: in came this Western devil and started fiddling with the kids.
[15:50] Speaker 2: And they killed that person and everybody else and said,
[15:52] Speaker 2: never again.
[15:53] Speaker 4: We're not letting that happen.
[15:54] Speaker 3: And that's like the representation of the civilization.
[15:57] Speaker 4: And that's been passed down generationally, and they don't want
[15:59] Speaker 4: anybody in. And would you, Matt?
[16:02] Speaker 3: No.
[16:02] Speaker 2: So my point, so back to would I go, I
[16:05] Speaker 2: wouldn't want to mess with that, not for my own
[16:06] Speaker 2: safety or anything. They're a culture that has decided to
[16:09] Speaker 2: stay isolated. I don't want to go force myself on that.
[16:12] Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? I think that would
[16:14] Speaker 4: be disrespectful.
[16:15] Speaker 3: How long do you think that could last? You think
[16:16] Speaker 3: it'll just continue on? I mean, look, they're protected in
[16:20] Speaker 3: multiple ways. before you get to the shore that the
[16:23] Speaker 3: Indian Navy is going to get you, like they're going
[16:25] Speaker 3: to come, they're going to arrest you. You're not going
[16:27] Speaker 3: to get close enough to that. But some people have
[16:29] Speaker 3: gotten close enough and dude, how crazy is it that the, the,
[16:33] Speaker 3: the last guy that went, or at least documented case.
[16:36] Speaker 3: thought that bringing Christianity was going to be the answer. Right.
[16:39] Speaker 3: And really, he was just being a replica of what
[16:42] Speaker 3: happened the last time. That's my understanding. So he came
[16:44] Speaker 3: and he's like, I come in peace, you know, with
[16:46] Speaker 3: the cross and the Bible and everything. And they just
[16:48] Speaker 3: hit him.
[16:48] Speaker 4: They're like, we know what you guys do.
[16:49] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[16:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
[16:51] Speaker 3: And they hit him with the spears, the blunt objects. Dude, those,
[16:53] Speaker 3: they have never, they don't know anything. They don't even
[16:56] Speaker 3: know that Logan's even going to be in SummerSlam.
[16:59] Speaker 4: In Jersey. Yeah.
[17:01] Speaker 3: Fighting Jelly Roll. Imagine trying to explain Jelly Roll to
[17:04] Speaker 3: the North Sentinel East. You couldn't.
[17:05] Speaker 4: You could not.
[17:06] Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about that as well.
[17:07] Speaker 3: I mean, okay.
[17:08] Speaker 4: Actually, sorry.
[17:09] Speaker 3: I have to throw up really quick.
[17:11] Speaker 1: This could be a two hour episode.
[17:12] Speaker 3: No, it is by the way. Cancel the Kimmel shit.
[17:14] Speaker 1: Cancel the Kimmel shit. I'm not going.
[17:16] Speaker 3: It's not happening.
[17:17] Speaker 1: Uh, you went with the milk boys.
[17:20] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[17:20] Speaker 1: To an uncontacted tribe.
[17:22] Speaker 4: Pretty much.
[17:22] Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh huh.
[17:23] Speaker 1: They gave him a vape.
[17:25] Speaker 4: They sure did. Salim did.
[17:26] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[17:29] Speaker 4: That was, that was, uh, so let me set, let
[17:31] Speaker 4: me explain that a little bit.
[17:32] Speaker 3: Okay.
[17:32] Speaker 2: So Kyle contacted me and was like, yo, uh, Would
[17:36] Speaker 2: you take us to meet this tribe? And I was
[17:38] Speaker 2: already going to Vanuatu to a very nearby island at
[17:41] Speaker 2: that time of year. And I was like, look, if
[17:42] Speaker 2: you want to jump on, we can go over to
[17:44] Speaker 2: Mota Island, which is the island that has this very,
[17:47] Speaker 2: very remote, very traditional tribe.
[17:49] Speaker 4: It's not truly uncontacted.
[17:50] Speaker 2: You know, there's literally one Western guy named Brett who
[17:53] Speaker 2: goes there and is part of the tribe and stuff.
[17:55] Speaker 1: I see.
[17:55] Speaker 4: And he speaks through him, through another translator. They speak.
[17:58] Speaker 4: It's a whole thing.
[17:59] Speaker 2: But I said to Kyle, I was like, look, we
[18:02] Speaker 2: can go to Mota. Like they live a very traditional way, blah, blah, blah.
[18:06] Speaker 2: But this is how the vape thing came up. But
[18:08] Speaker 2: they really appreciate they're not like the North Central East.
[18:11] Speaker 2: They have exchange and stuff and they really appreciate Siggy's like,
[18:14] Speaker 2: you know, bring some heaters and they'll love you for it.
[18:17] Speaker 2: You know, so Kyle being Kyle, he landed at the
[18:21] Speaker 2: airport in Vanuatu and bought like five grand worth of.
[18:25] Speaker 4: Duty-free cigarettes.
[18:26] Speaker 2: And so we got there and part of it was
[18:28] Speaker 2: giving out the cigarettes and they were stoked. I don't
[18:30] Speaker 2: remember if that went on camera or not, but the
[18:33] Speaker 2: tribesmen were super happy to have, because they just use
[18:36] Speaker 2: like hand-rolled like dirt cigarettes and they had like, you know,
[18:38] Speaker 2: Marlboro Reds or something.
[18:40] Speaker 4: So they were stoked. But by the second day, they
[18:42] Speaker 4: had smoked through a thousand plus cigarettes and Salim's standing
[18:45] Speaker 4: there with his vape and he's like, here, you want this?
[18:47] Speaker 4: You want this? And so they took it.
[18:49] Speaker 1: That's so funny. It seemed like they enjoyed it.
[18:51] Speaker 4: Oh, they loved it. they loved it it seems i.
[18:55] Speaker 5: I could see how a viewer without that context thinks
[18:57] Speaker 5: it's fucked up yeah it was a bit of backlash.
[18:59] Speaker 2: Oh totally and i mean i that's not my department
[19:02] Speaker 2: you know i stay out of that kind of thing
[19:04] Speaker 2: were you able to stay out of that i mean
[19:06] Speaker 2: i was there i was on the island but i
[19:07] Speaker 2: can't control i mean you know what kyle and the
[19:09] Speaker 2: boys are like you can't control those guys and not
[19:11] Speaker 2: in a bad way they're a ton of fun but
[19:13] Speaker 2: you know i i have no control over that.
[19:15] Speaker 1: Is it true i heard i heard uh.
[19:18] Speaker 5: Maybe it was a different uncontacted tribe, which by the way,
[19:21] Speaker 5: maybe they're uncontacted or not.
[19:22] Speaker 1: I heard one of them was introduced to porn.
[19:26] Speaker 5: And then they got like severely addicted.
[19:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[19:29] Speaker 4: That was Stiney. Um, no, I'm just kidding. No, no,
[19:36] Speaker 4: that's a different thing.
[19:36] Speaker 2: So my understanding of that is in the Amazon, somebody
[19:40] Speaker 2: came in with like Starlink or one of these internet things.
[19:42] Speaker 2: It was like, we're going to help you. And this
[19:44] Speaker 2: happens almost every time people interfere with other cultures. They're like,
[19:47] Speaker 2: we're going to help you. Here's some Starlink internet. and
[19:50] Speaker 2: some phones. Straight up, they're like, wow, shaved boxes. Never
[19:54] Speaker 2: seen that before. So it ruined the whole culture.
[19:58] Speaker 4: Oh, man.
[19:59] Speaker 1: Oh, that's the collapse of society is because Alana Rose
[20:02] Speaker 1: is ex.
[20:02] Speaker 3: Yep. So you got to be careful with that shit, man. Yeah.
[20:06] Speaker 3: That's crazy, dude. What do you think is the most
[20:09] Speaker 3: dangerous thing that they could do like right off the
[20:11] Speaker 3: rip do with a phone? It's I can't be.
[20:13] Speaker 5: Oh, it's definitely it's it's it's got to be, dude.
[20:15] Speaker 2: Like like well, porn, it's free. It's easily accessible. You know,
[20:18] Speaker 2: they don't have money. They can't buy stuff. But you
[20:21] Speaker 2: think about it like all of us sitting here, we
[20:24] Speaker 2: you know, you probably remember when smartphones came out, got
[20:26] Speaker 2: your first smartphone, started using it, whatever video games. We've
[20:29] Speaker 2: had sort of a little bit of a rollout of
[20:32] Speaker 2: this stuff. So you can get a little desensitized to it.
[20:35] Speaker 2: And we're still all addicted to our phones. I'm on
[20:37] Speaker 2: my phone all day. I'm sure you guys are too.
[20:38] Speaker 3: All day.
[20:39] Speaker 2: But imagine coming in cold to someone who's never even
[20:42] Speaker 2: seen a cell phone, probably never seen a screen before.
[20:45] Speaker 2: And then handing it to them and be like, here's
[20:47] Speaker 2: everything in the world to access.
[20:49] Speaker 4: You know, it's just like.
[20:50] Speaker 3: And if you have any questions, here's chat GPT.
[20:52] Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
[20:52] Speaker 3: I'll just ask you anything.
[20:54] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[20:54] Speaker 3: Imagine being the first like villager to get clout. Yeah.
[20:59] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[21:00] Speaker 4: Got like 12 Instagram followers.
[21:01] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. How many followers? You got 12 and they're
[21:04] Speaker 3: just like start acting different.
[21:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[21:05] Speaker 3: Switch. They switch up on their village.
[21:09] Speaker 2: He lives at the top of the hill. He's got
[21:10] Speaker 2: like coconut sunglasses on.
[21:13] Speaker 5: So something really interesting that I, that I, I I'll
[21:16] Speaker 5: see these videos and then I like to think about, um,
[21:18] Speaker 5: I saw this one video of someone showing one of
[21:21] Speaker 5: these like uncontacted tribes, a mirror, right? And for the
[21:24] Speaker 5: first time in their lives, these people are seeing themselves, uh,
[21:28] Speaker 5: these indigenous people are seeing what they look like. And, and,
[21:31] Speaker 5: and this guy's holding up this thing that kind of
[21:32] Speaker 5: looks like a portal, but it's reflecting your reality back
[21:35] Speaker 5: to you.
[21:36] Speaker 3: Right.
[21:36] Speaker 5: And they were looking at this guy, like he's like
[21:40] Speaker 5: a witch or they're like confused about the, like the
[21:42] Speaker 5: nature of their existence.
[21:43] Speaker 1: It was insane. And, um, I believe this is even
[21:46] Speaker 1: where the term cargo call came from.
[21:49] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[21:49] Speaker 1: I think, I think I got this from.
[21:51] Speaker 5: Jesse Michaels, but basically they, uh, uh, would drop off, uh,
[21:57] Speaker 5: a cargo truck or wagon full of goods to these
[22:01] Speaker 5: indigenous tribes.
[22:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:02] Speaker 5: And they'd refill it every now and then. And so
[22:04] Speaker 5: they would start worshipping this cargo wagon.
[22:07] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:08] Speaker 1: And it became this cult-like thing where they're now worshipping this.
[22:10] Speaker 5: It's humans bringing.
[22:13] Speaker 1: It's an entity.
[22:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:14] Speaker 1: It's a real thing that they thought was like God
[22:16] Speaker 1: because it provides life.
[22:17] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:17] Speaker 1: And I think that's where the origin of cargo cult
[22:19] Speaker 1: came from. Oh, interesting.
[22:20] Speaker 5: But I often wonder, because I'm super into the alien
[22:23] Speaker 5: and UFO conversation as well.
[22:26] Speaker 1: It's like.
[22:28] Speaker 5: Is there a, in your opinion, hyper-advanced version of humans
[22:33] Speaker 5: that exist or another inhabitant of this planet that would
[22:38] Speaker 5: have technology that would perplex even us, civilized people?
[22:43] Speaker 1: And also, is that in your wheelhouse at all?
[22:45] Speaker 2: It's not, but I'm happy to have opinions on it.
[22:48] Speaker 2: I study life. That's what I do as a biologist, right?
[22:51] Speaker 2: I study animal life. In all my travels and things,
[22:54] Speaker 2: There are weird anomalies that you cannot explain. You know,
[22:58] Speaker 2: I just saw a thing and this has nothing to
[23:00] Speaker 2: do with my travels, but have you ever seen the
[23:01] Speaker 2: cell phone in the Mike Tyson photo?
[23:03] Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about? In 95, you know
[23:07] Speaker 4: what I'm talking about, Mike?
[23:08] Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember.
[23:09] Speaker 2: I just saw this recently. In 95, Tyson had a fight.
[23:12] Speaker 2: In the back left, bottom left corner of it, there's
[23:14] Speaker 2: a guy taking a photo on a white iPhone or
[23:16] Speaker 2: a Samsung or something.
[23:17] Speaker 4: I have seen this.
[23:19] Speaker 2: Which is, you know, 25 years before that phone came out.
[23:21] Speaker 2: So there are weird little anomalies like that that I
[23:23] Speaker 2: think are, and that's just a weird, broad pop culture example,
[23:26] Speaker 2: but there are weird anomalies like that that I just
[23:28] Speaker 2: think cannot be explained. And I don't know if that's
[23:32] Speaker 2: an act of God, an act of aliens, an act
[23:34] Speaker 2: of ancient civilizations. More and more information comes out about
[23:39] Speaker 2: lost civilizations in the Amazon and old cultures that were
[23:42] Speaker 2: much more advanced than we think. So whether or not
[23:45] Speaker 2: there's still a few sort of controlling beings running around,
[23:48] Speaker 2: it seems unlikely to me, but I personally wholeheartedly believe
[23:52] Speaker 2: in the whole universe there are more advanced beings than us.
[23:56] Speaker 2: Whether they're on Earth or not, who knows? But I mean, infinite, replicable...
[24:01] Speaker 2: planets and solar systems and stars, there's got to be
[24:03] Speaker 2: other planets with more advanced beings than us.
[24:05] Speaker 5: I guess that's the crux of my question and why
[24:07] Speaker 5: I'm asking you this is because you've seen so much
[24:10] Speaker 5: of the earth. And even like, I imagine ancient civilization,
[24:14] Speaker 5: you just mentioned lost civilizations. And I wonder if it
[24:18] Speaker 5: all ties into the same conversation or they're different conversations
[24:21] Speaker 5: with hyper advanced intelligence and, and a potential lost civilization.
[24:26] Speaker 5: Even like the conversation with those structures, those cylindrical structures
[24:31] Speaker 5: that were found beneath the pyramids.
[24:33] Speaker 1: Do you have an opinion on that?
[24:35] Speaker 2: I think that there's going to be more and more
[24:36] Speaker 2: information that comes out. I think we as human beings
[24:39] Speaker 2: are very arrogant in thinking we know so much about everything.
[24:42] Speaker 2: And as time goes on, as long as we don't
[24:44] Speaker 2: kill ourselves or blow ourselves up, I think we'll learn
[24:46] Speaker 2: that there. there's more connectedness to everything than we think.
[24:50] Speaker 2: It's just like the food web or the food chain,
[24:51] Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. We never used to
[24:53] Speaker 2: think that if you killed all the sharks, everything underneath
[24:56] Speaker 2: it would collapse. Now, as time's gone on, it's like, well,
[24:59] Speaker 2: if you take away the keystone species or the apex predator,
[25:02] Speaker 2: the whole system collapses. And I think the universe is
[25:05] Speaker 2: probably just a big system and it's all connected.
[25:08] Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
[25:09] Speaker 1: I 100% know.
[25:10] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[25:10] Speaker 2: So what do I think about the weird LIDAR structures
[25:13] Speaker 2: underneath the pyramids?
[25:14] Speaker 4: No idea.
[25:15] Speaker 2: Not an archaeologist, not a geologist. Don't know anything about aliens.
[25:18] Speaker 2: I think it's connected on the big picture to stuff
[25:21] Speaker 2: we don't understand.
[25:23] Speaker 3: Let's talk about some stuff that you have some knowledge about.
[25:26] Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, dude.
[25:27] Speaker 6: No, you're good. I just feel like you've seen a lot.
[25:30] Speaker 6: I feel like you've seen a lot. You want to
[25:31] Speaker 6: know what he's seen? He had to run for his
[25:34] Speaker 6: life from a hippo when it charged its canoe in Africa.
[25:37] Speaker 4: I just did that again like three weeks ago.
[25:39] Speaker 1: Damn.
[25:39] Speaker 4: I was catching hippos in Colombia.
[25:41] Speaker 3: The free dive face-to-face with a saltwater crocodile got bitten
[25:44] Speaker 3: by multiple sharks, bitten by a venomous snake. You're a psychopath.
[25:49] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[25:50] Speaker 3: Which one of these things was maybe the scariest moment
[25:53] Speaker 3: for you?
[25:53] Speaker 4: I like ChatGPT's outline of me there.
[25:55] Speaker 1: No, it's actually Pat's.
[25:56] Speaker 3: Oh, nice.
[25:56] Speaker 4: Where's Pat?
[25:58] Speaker 1: He's not here today.
[26:00] Speaker 2: The most scary of all that. The scariest stuff for
[26:03] Speaker 2: me is always human element. Because like, if I make
[26:06] Speaker 2: a mistake, if I make, you know, look, I get
[26:08] Speaker 2: a bite from a shark or something. If I make
[26:10] Speaker 2: a mistake, that's on me. Like, I've done something stupid.
[26:13] Speaker 2: I've pushed the animal too far. I've crossed the line
[26:15] Speaker 2: in the sand. What I can't control is when rebels
[26:18] Speaker 2: in Mozambique decide that we're doing something that we're not
[26:22] Speaker 2: and they want to kill us or when people in
[26:24] Speaker 2: myanmar decide they're going to throw us in prison for
[26:26] Speaker 2: life because we brought a drone in unknowingly and all
[26:29] Speaker 2: these other various like stupid things that we've ended up
[26:32] Speaker 2: doing but it's always the human element that's way more
[26:34] Speaker 2: scary and way more dangerous because it sounds ridiculous but
[26:37] Speaker 2: you can you can ration with an animal like if
[26:40] Speaker 2: i have a close call it's like okay don't get
[26:42] Speaker 2: that close that elephant i made a mistake everybody stay
[26:44] Speaker 2: back like nothing bad happened You can't do that with
[26:47] Speaker 2: a guy with an AK-47 in your face. By the
[26:49] Speaker 2: time the AK-47 is in your face, you've already crossed
[26:51] Speaker 2: the line.
[26:52] Speaker 3: Do you think that some of that comes from a
[26:56] Speaker 3: place of PTSD from what happened in your childhood with
[26:59] Speaker 3: your home in Zimbabwe?
[27:01] Speaker 4: It's a good question.
[27:01] Speaker 3: I think that.
[27:03] Speaker 2: So for context, for anybody listening, I grew up in Zimbabwe.
[27:06] Speaker 2: My family got kicked out of there in 2001 during
[27:08] Speaker 2: all of the land reform because there's a lot.
[27:10] Speaker 4: Of political turmoil.
[27:10] Speaker 3: Which is still going on today, right?
[27:12] Speaker 2: It's much more mellow than it was. There's much less
[27:15] Speaker 2: murders and things like that. But the country's economically collapsed.
[27:18] Speaker 2: So a lot of people got left, like my family.
[27:21] Speaker 3: And.
[27:22] Speaker 2: I don't know if I have PTSD or not, but
[27:24] Speaker 2: I think it's shaped who I am as a person.
[27:27] Speaker 2: It's made me very resilient. It's made me work really hard,
[27:29] Speaker 2: which I love doing all those things. And I think
[27:32] Speaker 2: that it's also on the positive side, it allows me
[27:35] Speaker 2: to go into these super remote places all around the
[27:38] Speaker 2: planet with different cultures and be able to communicate with
[27:41] Speaker 2: them because I did grow up in Zimbabwe. I do
[27:43] Speaker 2: know how to talk to tribal people. I know how
[27:45] Speaker 2: to barter for things. I know how to hide when
[27:47] Speaker 2: I need to hide or run when I need to run.
[27:49] Speaker 2: And I think it's really helped me in my life.
[27:52] Speaker 3: What was that moment like when you were forced out
[27:54] Speaker 3: of your home? Is that the fast track land reform?
[27:59] Speaker 3: Is that what it's called?
[28:00] Speaker 4: It was the Robert Mugabe regime land reform.
[28:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that like?
[28:05] Speaker 4: The most distinct memory of... Look, it was bad.
[28:08] Speaker 2: The thing is, we were going through it the same
[28:10] Speaker 2: time as every other Zimbabwean farmer was going through it.
[28:13] Speaker 4: You know, so... There were shootouts all the time. We
[28:15] Speaker 4: got chased. There was gunfights.
[28:17] Speaker 2: There was all this stuff going on, people getting killed
[28:20] Speaker 2: that we knew and loved. And it was sort of
[28:22] Speaker 2: this regression, but Zimbabweans by nature, they dig their heels in,
[28:26] Speaker 2: they fight back, they stand up for what they believe in.
[28:28] Speaker 2: So it always kind of felt like this is never
[28:30] Speaker 2: going to happen to me, even though things were like
[28:32] Speaker 2: literally closing in on us. And I have this distinct
[28:35] Speaker 2: memory as a kid of like the war veterans had
[28:38] Speaker 2: surrounded our property and They weren't real war veterans. They
[28:41] Speaker 2: were kids with guns. But they'd surrounded our property. They'd
[28:43] Speaker 2: taken all the neighboring farms already. We were the last
[28:45] Speaker 2: ones standing because we were the smallest farm. So they
[28:47] Speaker 2: came for us last because we weren't that financially important.
[28:50] Speaker 2: And my mom was a single mom. My dad was
[28:52] Speaker 2: out of the picture. And she was running this farm
[28:54] Speaker 2: with two kids. And my mom goes, go upstairs, lock
[28:58] Speaker 2: yourself in your room, grab the gun. So I ran upstairs,
[29:00] Speaker 2: locked myself in my room, grabbed the gun. But being
[29:02] Speaker 2: a 14-year-old boy, I looked over, looked out the window
[29:05] Speaker 2: to see what was going. And she was surrounded by
[29:07] Speaker 2: all these guys with guns. And she started crying. She
[29:10] Speaker 2: walked back in the house. She'd get your suitcase. We
[29:12] Speaker 2: already had suitcases packed. She'd get your suitcase. We have
[29:15] Speaker 2: to go right now. So they gave her a chance
[29:16] Speaker 2: because she was a single woman and everything else. They
[29:18] Speaker 2: didn't just kill her or anything. They gave my mom
[29:20] Speaker 2: a chance to leave. Grabbed the suitcases. I fought it.
[29:23] Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'll fight this, blah, blah, blah.
[29:24] Speaker 2: And she's like, get in the car. So I got
[29:27] Speaker 2: in the car and I remember the sad, and I
[29:28] Speaker 2: don't want to make this a sob story, but I
[29:30] Speaker 2: was driving down my driveway leaving. And my little dog
[29:34] Speaker 2: that I'd had since I was nine years old was
[29:35] Speaker 2: running behind the car. And I remember looking at my
[29:38] Speaker 2: dog and I get a little choked up because I'm
[29:39] Speaker 2: more of an animal person than a human person. And
[29:42] Speaker 2: my dog was trying to catch me and I never
[29:45] Speaker 2: saw that dog again. And that was like a really
[29:47] Speaker 2: hard moment of like, that's my whole life got left
[29:50] Speaker 2: behind like that.
[29:53] Speaker 3: Crazy.
[29:53] Speaker 2: It was, it was nuts. Um, but like I said,
[29:56] Speaker 2: I think it's shaped me to who I am today.
[29:58] Speaker 2: And I don't want to be a sub story guy.
[29:59] Speaker 4: Like I mean, dude, it's.
[30:00] Speaker 3: Hard to not to not, I mean, you, you know,
[30:02] Speaker 3: you got forced from your home as a kid and it's,
[30:04] Speaker 3: and you know, as a, as a kid, your home
[30:06] Speaker 3: and your pet and you.
[30:07] Speaker 1: Know, is everything.
[30:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. It's all you know.
[30:10] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And then so then you come back to
[30:12] Speaker 3: the States. Yep. Yep. And you grew up in SoCal. Yeah.
[30:15] Speaker 4: Bounced around.
[30:16] Speaker 2: We were in government welfare housing in Oakland, which was
[30:19] Speaker 2: not nice back then. Wasn't all hipstery like it is today.
[30:22] Speaker 2: And bounced around, ended up in Cayucos, California, blah, blah, blah.
[30:25] Speaker 2: And then I went to UCSB. And I don't know
[30:28] Speaker 2: if you know UCSB, University of California, Santa Barbara. Great place.
[30:32] Speaker 2: Beautiful girls. I played rugby there. You know, it was
[30:35] Speaker 2: in the frat stuff. Like, had so much fun. Loved
[30:37] Speaker 2: being there. Cemented that relationship with biology because I always
[30:41] Speaker 2: thought I was going to grow up to be a
[30:42] Speaker 2: safari guide, which is what my family did. So when
[30:45] Speaker 2: you can't be a safari guide in California, I studied
[30:47] Speaker 2: it instead. Became a biologist. And then just rolled that
[30:51] Speaker 2: more and more into trying to share that passion for
[30:53] Speaker 2: animals and nature with the world.
[30:55] Speaker 3: Got it.
[30:56] Speaker 5: You don't seem like you do at all, but do
[30:58] Speaker 5: you have any trouble... interacting with or finding that burning
[31:04] Speaker 5: connection with humans as you do animals?
[31:07] Speaker 4: I don't think so. I'm not introverted.
[31:10] Speaker 3: I'm married.
[31:11] Speaker 4: I have two kids.
[31:11] Speaker 2: I love my wife. I love my kids. I have
[31:14] Speaker 2: very close friends. I don't think so, but I don't
[31:17] Speaker 2: go to therapy, so I don't know.
[31:19] Speaker 3: It sounds like you're doing pretty good.
[31:21] Speaker 5: You straddle the line and can hop back and forth
[31:24] Speaker 5: on both sides. I just know some people who are–
[31:28] Speaker 5: I find them a little more introverted, which is maybe
[31:30] Speaker 5: why animal conservation people sometimes tend to be a little
[31:35] Speaker 5: more introverted, which is maybe why they get along with
[31:38] Speaker 5: animals more than they get along with humans.
[31:40] Speaker 2: Look, if you can dedicate your life to studying any animal,
[31:43] Speaker 2: it's probably because you're not socially very acceptable.
[31:46] Speaker 3: I see.
[31:47] Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
[31:47] Speaker 4: And it's like, it's cart and horse, but I don't
[31:50] Speaker 4: have that problem, I guess.
[31:51] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[31:52] Speaker 4: But I just, I like people and I like animals more.
[31:55] Speaker 3: Can we, can we talk about some of this animal
[31:57] Speaker 3: stuff and do a little bit of superlative work here?
[32:00] Speaker 3: So I know you said you're most scared of, or,
[32:03] Speaker 3: or I guess you have the most fear of humans
[32:05] Speaker 3: because they're unpredictable nature.
[32:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[32:07] Speaker 3: Um, but going back to animals specifically, what is, what
[32:10] Speaker 3: is an animal that scares the shit out of you?
[32:13] Speaker 2: There's two, and the first one's a boring answer, but
[32:14] Speaker 2: I'll say it anyway. One's mosquitoes, because you can't control it, right?
[32:18] Speaker 2: You have no control whether you're going to get malaria
[32:20] Speaker 2: or dengue or any of these things when you're dealing
[32:23] Speaker 2: with mosquitoes, and they suck.
[32:25] Speaker 3: Fucking suck.
[32:25] Speaker 4: They suck so much. And the other is... hippos dude.
[32:30] Speaker 2: Every time i work with hippos they nearly kill me
[32:33] Speaker 2: i've been working with the colombian government because you know
[32:35] Speaker 2: about pablo escobar's cocaine hippos oh my god yeah i'm
[32:39] Speaker 2: the guy who's working on catching and cutting their nuts
[32:41] Speaker 2: no way yeah I have a whole show on Discovery
[32:44] Speaker 2: coming out about that in like two weeks.
[32:46] Speaker 1: No way.
[32:46] Speaker 3: Yeah. It's called Cocaine Hippos?
[32:48] Speaker 4: It's called Animals on Drugs. Wow.
[32:50] Speaker 1: That's amazing.
[32:51] Speaker 4: That's amazing.
[32:52] Speaker 1: Cocaine bear.
[32:53] Speaker 4: Yeah. Cocaine hippos.
[32:54] Speaker 3: Wow.
[32:55] Speaker 2: So I've been working with the Colombian government not to
[32:57] Speaker 2: catch them all and do that. It's impossible. It's a
[32:59] Speaker 2: huge task. But to help build the blueprint of how
[33:01] Speaker 2: to do it. So we've been building traps. We've been
[33:04] Speaker 2: chemically castrating. We've been sterilizing. We've been castrating physically, doing surgery.
[33:08] Speaker 3: Wait. Tell me why.
[33:09] Speaker 1: Too many hippos.
[33:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry.
[33:11] Speaker 2: So Pablo Escobar brought four hippos to Haciendanapolis, which is
[33:15] Speaker 2: this big, dope hideout in Colombia that was unbelievable. I've
[33:20] Speaker 2: now been there a few times. And when he got killed,
[33:24] Speaker 2: they're like, all right, we need to put the cheetahs
[33:25] Speaker 2: in the zoo.
[33:25] Speaker 4: We need to move this.
[33:26] Speaker 2: We need to move that. And then everybody was like, well,
[33:28] Speaker 2: we're not touching those fucking hippos. They're going to kill somebody.
[33:30] Speaker 2: So they just opened the gates and let them out.
[33:32] Speaker 2: So four hippos turned into what is reported to be
[33:35] Speaker 2: 120 now, but it's actually well over 200.
[33:37] Speaker 4: Oh, man.
[33:38] Speaker 2: But the problem is, These are hippos in South America
[33:41] Speaker 2: where they have no natural predators, unlimited food. They're a
[33:45] Speaker 2: very dangerous animal. And they're just they're just multiplying like
[33:48] Speaker 2: rapid fire. And they're hurting people. We've interviewed multiple people.
[33:52] Speaker 2: They've killed a couple people. They're destroying the environment. They're
[33:55] Speaker 2: killing nesting area for turtles. I mean, they're just they're
[33:57] Speaker 2: just they're not doing on a war path. They're on
[33:59] Speaker 2: a warpath.
[34:00] Speaker 1: It just sucks because Mudang, he was so cute. A
[34:04] Speaker 1: baby hippo? Oh, my God. They're adorable.
[34:06] Speaker 3: He would.
[34:07] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[34:07] Speaker 2: Don't be fooled. Those little pygmy hippos, that's a pygmy hippo.
[34:10] Speaker 2: That's a much smaller one.
[34:11] Speaker 4: When they grow up, they're probably the meanest animal on
[34:14] Speaker 4: planet Earth.
[34:14] Speaker 3: No way. Yeah, I was going to ask you that.
[34:16] Speaker 3: Aren't they, like, one of the most dangerous, like.
[34:18] Speaker 4: Bro, they're psychos. They have rage issues. Like, you can be...
[34:22] Speaker 4: I sound so stupid.
[34:23] Speaker 1: No, you're psychoanalyzing a hippo.
[34:24] Speaker 3: This is great.
[34:25] Speaker 2: If we were in this room, right... And there was
[34:28] Speaker 2: a pygmy hippo in that corner. If it was like people,
[34:31] Speaker 2: it would just go full send at you to try
[34:33] Speaker 2: and kill you.
[34:34] Speaker 3: For no reason. How fast can they move?
[34:37] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[34:37] Speaker 4: Pygmy hippos probably like 35, 40 miles an hour. Faster
[34:39] Speaker 4: than you.
[34:40] Speaker 1: How much do they weigh?
[34:40] Speaker 4: For me.
[34:42] Speaker 2: The pygmies are like 500, 600. No, like 400, 300,
[34:45] Speaker 2: 400 pounds.
[34:46] Speaker 1: And there's no way you'd win that fight?
[34:47] Speaker 3: No.
[34:48] Speaker 4: No way.
[34:48] Speaker 3: Why?
[34:48] Speaker 1: The bite force?
[34:51] Speaker 2: First of all, maybe if you had a sword or something.
[34:54] Speaker 2: But they're this much layer of fat. After an inch
[34:57] Speaker 2: of skin that's basically, you know, you can't punch through it.
[34:59] Speaker 2: You're not going to do any damage. Razor sharp teeth
[35:02] Speaker 2: and a fucked up attitude. Like they're just so shitty
[35:05] Speaker 2: to deal with.
[35:05] Speaker 3: And don't they kill, don't hippos kill like a lot
[35:07] Speaker 3: of people every year?
[35:08] Speaker 4: The big ones do.
[35:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:09] Speaker 2: The adult, like, so the, the large hippos, not the
[35:12] Speaker 2: pygmy hippos are the most dangerous animal in Africa.
[35:17] Speaker 3: Okay.
[35:17] Speaker 4: So I was just in Columbia. Do you mind if
[35:19] Speaker 4: I tell you guys a story?
[35:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, please.
[35:20] Speaker 2: So we're just in Columbia and there's this, there's this
[35:22] Speaker 2: Island in the middle of the river. Now there's like
[35:24] Speaker 2: one thing, Again, my family used to run safaris, right?
[35:26] Speaker 2: So there's like one rule in Africa, which is like
[35:28] Speaker 2: never walk near hippos in thick bush. Because if you
[35:31] Speaker 2: can't see them, they have bad eyesight and they're very flighty.
[35:34] Speaker 4: They'll just attack. It's like a known thing. Well, guess what?
[35:37] Speaker 2: In the jungles of South America, it's all dense. There's
[35:39] Speaker 2: no open savanna lands like there is in Africa. So
[35:42] Speaker 2: we were working with the Colombian government and they're like, okay,
[35:45] Speaker 2: in the middle of this Island, in the middle of
[35:47] Speaker 2: the river is where the hippos go during the day.
[35:49] Speaker 2: Cause there's like a little mud hole wallowing area, but
[35:52] Speaker 2: you're walking through Amazon type jungle to get there. And
[35:55] Speaker 2: we're cruising through and it's so thick. I mean, you
[35:57] Speaker 2: literally can't see me to the cameras, you know, cause
[35:59] Speaker 2: it's just walls of vegetation. And all of a sudden,
[36:03] Speaker 2: you get to the edge of the vegetation. And from
[36:06] Speaker 2: me to the camera is this hippo sitting in a
[36:09] Speaker 2: muddy pool that it can't submerge in. So it just panics,
[36:12] Speaker 2: comes running right out. Luckily, we all split in a
[36:15] Speaker 2: million different... It was me, my camera guys, the biologists, everything.
[36:17] Speaker 2: We all split in a million directions. And it came
[36:19] Speaker 2: towards me and my sound guy. And then we turned
[36:22] Speaker 2: left and it turned right.
[36:23] Speaker 4: But it's like... Every time I'm around these things, they
[36:25] Speaker 4: try to kill me.
[36:26] Speaker 1: You got to be careful, bro.
[36:28] Speaker 4: I know. It's stupid.
[36:29] Speaker 1: Do you have a plan?
[36:31] Speaker 4: Not really, no.
[36:32] Speaker 1: Bro, I would hate to hear some news about you
[36:35] Speaker 1: being mauled by an animal.
[36:36] Speaker 4: Nah, I'm good, man. I'm on top of it. I
[36:38] Speaker 4: take those risks myself.
[36:40] Speaker 3: Okay.
[36:40] Speaker 4: I'm doing that. If I get hurt, it's because I'm
[36:43] Speaker 4: doing it.
[36:43] Speaker 3: Okay.
[36:43] Speaker 2: And I love what I do. It was very exciting.
[36:45] Speaker 2: And we caught that hippo and cut his nuts off,
[36:47] Speaker 2: so he lost. Yeah.
[36:50] Speaker 1: He deserves it. Charge him, my boy.
[36:54] Speaker 3: He's more chill now?
[36:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
[36:57] Speaker 3: Now he's just sitting in that swamp just hanging?
[36:58] Speaker 4: Dude, you cut anything's nuts off and it becomes more chill. Yeah, yeah.
[37:02] Speaker 5: Not my XL bully. I feel like my XL bully is.
[37:06] Speaker 1: Still just a freak.
[37:07] Speaker 3: Well, how do you know what he would have been
[37:08] Speaker 3: like if he still had him? So true.
[37:10] Speaker 1: He could be freaking here right now.
[37:13] Speaker 5: Dude, this conversation makes me so happy, and I'm positive
[37:17] Speaker 5: you've already answered this because you're the guy to ask
[37:19] Speaker 5: the following question.
[37:22] Speaker 1: Was burning the internet.
[37:23] Speaker 5: 100 gorillas versus one human.
[37:26] Speaker 4: Love this question.
[37:27] Speaker 1: Who's winning?
[37:28] Speaker 4: Who do you think? You guys weigh in, and then
[37:30] Speaker 4: I'll give you my opinion.
[37:31] Speaker 1: Wait, sorry. Sorry. 100 humans versus one gorilla.
[37:34] Speaker 4: You did say 100 gorillas. That's crazy.
[37:37] Speaker 3: That's the best stuff. Yeah.
[37:40] Speaker 1: So, okay, okay. 100 humans versus one gorilla. Who's winning?
[37:46] Speaker 1: It has to be the humans.
[37:47] Speaker 3: I'm with the humans.
[37:48] Speaker 1: It has to be the humans.
[37:48] Speaker 4: You're both right. You're both right.
[37:50] Speaker 1: That's a lot.
[37:50] Speaker 2: Because, first of all, 100 people is a shit ton
[37:53] Speaker 2: of people. And a gorilla is not an endurance athlete.
[37:56] Speaker 2: So that's the thing.
[37:57] Speaker 1: I saw your answer on this, actually.
[37:58] Speaker 4: Okay, so you know. Yeah, so it went kind of
[38:01] Speaker 4: viral when I asked you.
[38:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[38:03] Speaker 2: But they're just not made for endurance. You know, a
[38:06] Speaker 2: gorilla will smash. It will destroy everything in this room,
[38:08] Speaker 2: but then it's going to gas out. If you have
[38:09] Speaker 2: 100 people, yes, 30, 40, 50 people might get killed
[38:13] Speaker 2: or destroyed. but then it's going to gas out completely,
[38:16] Speaker 2: and then you're just mobbing on top of it.
[38:18] Speaker 1: Got no gas tank.
[38:18] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[38:19] Speaker 1: Conor McGregor round two type shit.
[38:20] Speaker 4: That's right, yeah.
[38:21] Speaker 1: Okay, what if the gorilla trained cardio?
[38:23] Speaker 4: He'd have to do a lot of training.
[38:24] Speaker 1: Like one of those gorillas on VO3, one of those
[38:26] Speaker 1: VO3 gorillas.
[38:27] Speaker 4: I think you'd fuck him up.
[38:29] Speaker 3: Okay, what if people just had the animal wrong the
[38:33] Speaker 3: whole time? Because I do want to ask you this, too.
[38:36] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? What if it was a
[38:39] Speaker 3: fucking polar bear?
[38:41] Speaker 4: I would think the polar bear will do a lot
[38:43] Speaker 4: more damage than the gorilla.
[38:44] Speaker 3: So, wow.
[38:45] Speaker 4: Well, a polar bear is 1,400, 1,500 pounds.
[38:48] Speaker 3: Can we talk about this? Can we really talk about this?
[38:51] Speaker 3: I don't think people really understand that. What was that
[38:55] Speaker 3: height you used again? What's the average?
[38:58] Speaker 4: Fact check me on this, but they're like 1,400 pounds.
[39:00] Speaker 3: Okay.
[39:01] Speaker 4: A gorilla is 300 pounds for scale.
[39:04] Speaker 3: And not armed with Freddy Krueger's hands.
[39:07] Speaker 4: Correct. Exactly.
[39:10] Speaker 3: How does that animal even really exist? How is that
[39:13] Speaker 3: a real thing? It sounds like something out of a nightmare.
[39:15] Speaker 3: What do they say about the three color schemes? Brown
[39:19] Speaker 3: lay down.
[39:20] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[39:21] Speaker 3: Black fight back. Yep. White say goodnight.
[39:23] Speaker 4: That's it.
[39:24] Speaker 3: You got it. You just have no chance.
[39:25] Speaker 4: You have no chance.
[39:26] Speaker 2: None whatsoever. And they're one of only three animals, four
[39:29] Speaker 2: animals that choose... to actively hunt human beings.
[39:32] Speaker 3: What?
[39:34] Speaker 4: Yeah. No, but they're too big. They're too strong.
[39:38] Speaker 2: And the reason they've got so big and they are
[39:39] Speaker 2: so strong is they hunt whales and walruses and these
[39:43] Speaker 2: giant marine mammals.
[39:44] Speaker 5: I saw this one video of a polar bear on
[39:46] Speaker 5: the edge of its... Ice block, like swiping at the
[39:50] Speaker 5: orcas running. Or not the orcas, like these whales coming by.
[39:52] Speaker 5: I'm like, this guy's a fucking maniac.
[39:53] Speaker 3: It's crazy.
[39:54] Speaker 4: Belugas and narwhals.
[39:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[39:56] Speaker 2: And then you'll see, you know, when you look at
[39:58] Speaker 2: the scale, like when you're looking at the video, you're like, oh,
[40:00] Speaker 2: the polar bear's this big and then the whale's this big.
[40:02] Speaker 2: But keep in mind, that's still 12 feet long, that bear.
[40:05] Speaker 2: And then he jumps in the water and pulls it
[40:07] Speaker 2: out like a dog with a bone.
[40:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[40:08] Speaker 2: And he pulls out this whole whale. I mean, they're... So, yeah. So,
[40:11] Speaker 2: my answer is the polar bear.
[40:13] Speaker 3: Would suck you up. So, are they like... Are they
[40:15] Speaker 3: the apex?
[40:17] Speaker 4: Polar bears?
[40:17] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[40:18] Speaker 4: Of the planet?
[40:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I know it's weird and doesn't make sense,
[40:21] Speaker 3: but you put it in the room with the silverback,
[40:25] Speaker 3: a lion.
[40:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a good question.
[40:26] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
[40:27] Speaker 1: What is this planet's apex predator?
[40:29] Speaker 3: Truly.
[40:29] Speaker 4: I mean, humans are, right? We've colonized. Take us out. Okay, okay, sorry.
[40:35] Speaker 4: I mean, predator, polar bear. There's no predator in the
[40:39] Speaker 4: world that'll beat a polar bear. I believe that.
[40:41] Speaker 1: But an elephant could beat a polar bear?
[40:43] Speaker 3: Correct.
[40:43] Speaker 4: Correct.
[40:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, the large herbivores, like a huge elephant, a big
[40:47] Speaker 2: bull African elephant. Well, there's nothing that walks on land
[40:50] Speaker 2: that can defeat it.
[40:51] Speaker 3: What about a mouse?
[40:53] Speaker 4: What about a mouse? Pull up their skirt. I remember
[40:56] Speaker 4: those cartoons.
[40:57] Speaker 5: I went on a safari, which, by the way, if
[41:01] Speaker 5: you have the opportunity to go on a safari, one
[41:05] Speaker 5: of the coolest experiences ever.
[41:07] Speaker 1: Of my life.
[41:08] Speaker 2: Dude, I got to take you on a real safari.
[41:10] Speaker 5: I was going to ask to link after this because
[41:11] Speaker 5: I would, I want, dude, I'm an adventure guy. I want,
[41:14] Speaker 5: we got to go on some adventures.
[41:15] Speaker 4: Let's go. I'm not even joking. You can turn the
[41:16] Speaker 4: cameras off. Let's go tag. Let's go collar elephants, tag lions.
[41:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in.
[41:22] Speaker 4: Put collars on giraffes.
[41:23] Speaker 3: I'm in.
[41:23] Speaker 4: Things that conservation needs.
[41:24] Speaker 3: I'm in.
[41:25] Speaker 4: That's the cool stuff.
[41:26] Speaker 1: I love that.
[41:26] Speaker 2: Flying around in helicopters, darting elephants, putting collars on them,
[41:29] Speaker 2: moving them.
[41:31] Speaker 5: We got to do that with an elephant. I wasn't
[41:33] Speaker 5: in the chopper. I wasn't in the chopper. But I
[41:35] Speaker 5: got to be there when they.
[41:37] Speaker 1: What did they do?
[41:37] Speaker 5: They took like a blood sample or something. It was sick.
[41:42] Speaker 5: But man, you really don't understand how big an elephant is.
[41:45] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
[41:45] Speaker 1: Especially... When you see this thing, take down a tree.
[41:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[41:48] Speaker 1: Take down a tree.
[41:49] Speaker 4: Like it's nothing.
[41:50] Speaker 1: Like it's nothing.
[41:51] Speaker 4: Isn't it crazy?
[41:51] Speaker 1: And I went and pushed on some of these trees.
[41:53] Speaker 1: I'm like, they got to be like weak trees.
[41:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[41:55] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. They just ravage everything.
[41:59] Speaker 2: And you like put your hand on one's head. I've
[42:02] Speaker 2: darted and moved elephants and stuff a lot. And you
[42:04] Speaker 2: go to one that's sleeping. You put your hand on
[42:05] Speaker 2: its head and its eyeballs like this. And you're like,
[42:08] Speaker 2: that's its eyeball.
[42:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:10] Speaker 4: Let alone its feet or its ears. It's unbelievable. It's dick.
[42:13] Speaker 4: They've got... Massive. Yeah. Massive.
[42:16] Speaker 1: It's almost like a fifth leg.
[42:17] Speaker 2: It is.
[42:18] Speaker 4: It really is.
[42:19] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:19] Speaker 1: It's crazy your name is Forrest and you do what
[42:21] Speaker 1: you do.
[42:21] Speaker 3: I know.
[42:22] Speaker 4: Thank God my mom was a hippie. It really helped.
[42:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:25] Speaker 1: It's almost like... I feel like every guy I know
[42:27] Speaker 1: named Rich is insanely rich.
[42:29] Speaker 3: Is that true? Oh, yeah. Shout out, Rich.
[42:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out, Rich.
[42:31] Speaker 3: I'm watching this from Saint-Tropez.
[42:33] Speaker 4: Oh, there you go.
[42:33] Speaker 3: Hey, you know, speaking of deadly animals... What about snakes?
[42:40] Speaker 4: What about them?
[42:40] Speaker 3: Love them. Okay, okay, okay, okay. See, this is stuff
[42:42] Speaker 3: I get very curious because it's crazy. We talk about
[42:44] Speaker 3: all these large animals, but then in some weird world,
[42:47] Speaker 3: like you said, the actual scariest animal could be this
[42:50] Speaker 3: snake and could take down any of them, dude. Isn't
[42:52] Speaker 3: that crazy?
[42:53] Speaker 4: Kill rates for snakes way higher than any large animal.
[42:55] Speaker 3: Crazy.
[42:56] Speaker 1: Way higher.
[42:56] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[42:57] Speaker 3: Okay, so obviously, like, we've got rattlesnakes, we've got cobras,
[43:01] Speaker 3: we've got the black mamba. Mm-hmm. Is that the deadliest
[43:04] Speaker 3: snake on the planet? Yeah.
[43:06] Speaker 2: Uh, not by kill count, but it has one of
[43:08] Speaker 2: the strongest venoms. The strongest venom of any snake on
[43:11] Speaker 2: the planet is the inland Taipan. So in Australia, of course, dude,
[43:16] Speaker 2: I have a crazy story about a Taipan too, but
[43:19] Speaker 2: in Australia, um, they have a couple of types, but
[43:22] Speaker 2: basically an inland and a coastal Taipan, which is like
[43:25] Speaker 2: a Mamba. It's like their version of a Mamba. And
[43:28] Speaker 2: that venom, I think it said like one drop has
[43:30] Speaker 2: the potency to kill a thousand people.
[43:31] Speaker 1: Oh my God.
[43:32] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[43:32] Speaker 3: So if you get bait, you're cooked completely.
[43:34] Speaker 4: You're cooked.
[43:35] Speaker 3: Do they have an anti-venom?
[43:36] Speaker 2: I believe they do, but like all anti-venoms, it's not
[43:40] Speaker 2: shelf stable. You have to make it like every three days,
[43:42] Speaker 2: cost $ 100, 000 a vial.
[43:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[43:45] Speaker 2: So, you know, the likelihood of, In Australia, their medical
[43:48] Speaker 2: is really good, but the likelihood that you're getting to
[43:50] Speaker 2: a hospital in time, getting treated, getting enough vials, it's, like,
[43:53] Speaker 2: slim to none.
[43:54] Speaker 3: Dude, what's the deal with that continent, man? Like, and
[43:58] Speaker 3: just that whole Outback situation. It's so weird, bro.
[44:02] Speaker 4: Very weird.
[44:03] Speaker 3: How did they end up with, like, everyone is in this, like,
[44:05] Speaker 3: one little tiny area, and then the whole rest of
[44:08] Speaker 3: the country in the middle... of Perth and Sydney, that sandwich,
[44:12] Speaker 3: the whole rest of the country is just giant spiders
[44:15] Speaker 3: and kangaroos that box each other and like snakes that
[44:19] Speaker 3: will kill you with one bite.
[44:20] Speaker 4: It's nuts.
[44:21] Speaker 3: It's crazy. How did that happen?
[44:22] Speaker 2: Well, it's actually really interesting. Have you ever heard of
[44:24] Speaker 2: the Wallace line? So nobody understands what this is. So
[44:28] Speaker 2: If you think of a map of the world and
[44:30] Speaker 2: you go over from like Indonesia towards Australia, halfway through
[44:34] Speaker 2: that is this thing called the Wallace line. It's an
[44:36] Speaker 2: imaginary line and no mammals that we think of as
[44:39] Speaker 2: in tigers or monkeys or any of those things cross
[44:43] Speaker 2: that line. So for whatever weird reason that nobody, you
[44:46] Speaker 2: want to talk about aliens and shit, that nobody understands,
[44:49] Speaker 2: there's this imaginary line called the Wallace Line and everything
[44:51] Speaker 2: on the right-hand side of that, meaning like Papua New Guinea, Australia, blah, blah, blah,
[44:55] Speaker 2: has its own completely unique animals.
[44:58] Speaker 3: What the F, dude.
[44:59] Speaker 2: And that's where all these marsupials come from and kangaroos
[45:02] Speaker 2: and snakes that aren't related to any other snakes and
[45:04] Speaker 2: all this weird shit lives on the right-hand side of
[45:07] Speaker 2: the Wallace Line. And you can literally cross over the line.
[45:09] Speaker 2: I'm talking about like a hundred foot difference between And
[45:12] Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you have every other type
[45:14] Speaker 2: of animal on the planet. And this goes across dozens
[45:17] Speaker 2: of islands, like big land masses, everything.
[45:19] Speaker 4: It makes no sense.
[45:20] Speaker 1: That feels inexplicable.
[45:21] Speaker 3: It is. Do you think it has to do with,
[45:23] Speaker 3: do you think it has to do with, uh, potentially
[45:25] Speaker 3: like a mountain range that exists in the area that
[45:28] Speaker 3: like blocks a certain type of like dampness of air? Cause,
[45:31] Speaker 3: cause isn't the Austrian like for the outback itself, right?
[45:35] Speaker 3: Isn't there a mountain range on the East side of
[45:38] Speaker 3: Australia that, that creates a, an arid environment that.
[45:41] Speaker 4: Blocks, uh, Like a big rain shadow.
[45:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, like it protects Sydney, Brisbane, and all those places.
[45:46] Speaker 3: And then when you move to the left of it,
[45:48] Speaker 3: you get this arid desert.
[45:51] Speaker 4: Australia has every type of landscape.
[45:52] Speaker 3: It's such a weird place.
[45:53] Speaker 4: That's why I ask.
[45:54] Speaker 3: And the weirdest part, the weirdest wildlife there is the
[45:59] Speaker 3: women and the people. Yeah. Bro, they're sick. They're sick.
[46:02] Speaker 3: And I mean that in the most respectful way because
[46:04] Speaker 3: I love Australians.
[46:05] Speaker 4: Yeah, they're fun.
[46:05] Speaker 3: I love their people, bro.
[46:07] Speaker 4: But you get them out of Australia, they go nuts.
[46:09] Speaker 3: Bro, they're crazy.
[46:10] Speaker 4: They're crazy.
[46:11] Speaker 3: They're actually like built different. Yeah. You know, everybody looks
[46:14] Speaker 3: at America as like loud, boisterous, like the guys and
[46:17] Speaker 3: the girls are this and that. Bro, Australians have us
[46:20] Speaker 3: beat in every single category, dude.
[46:22] Speaker 4: I played rugby a lot. Like I love rugby.
[46:25] Speaker 2: And every time like we had Australian teammates or playing
[46:28] Speaker 2: against a team full of Australians, I was like, Well,
[46:30] Speaker 2: my liver's going to hurt.
[46:31] Speaker 4: Like, these guys are going to send it.
[46:32] Speaker 3: Out-drink, out-drug, out-fuck.
[46:33] Speaker 4: Everything.
[46:34] Speaker 3: Anything you do, Australians go harder than that.
[46:37] Speaker 4: Guaranteed.
[46:38] Speaker 3: 100%.
[46:38] Speaker 1: Some about that island.
[46:40] Speaker 3: It's a weird place, and I love it there.
[46:42] Speaker 1: Which side of the Wallace line.
[46:44] Speaker 3: Are they on?
[46:44] Speaker 4: They're the, I mean, I don't know, I guess the
[46:47] Speaker 4: right side.
[46:47] Speaker 1: Maybe the animals are just staying away from the Australians.
[46:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
[46:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good point.
[46:53] Speaker 1: Fucking psycho.
[46:54] Speaker 3: Lions are scared of them.
[46:55] Speaker 2: So when I was in Australia, this was like seven,
[46:57] Speaker 2: eight years ago now, I was filming a scene for
[47:00] Speaker 2: a show I had on Animal Planet called Extinct or Alive.
[47:02] Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, we're in this aboriginal community
[47:04] Speaker 2: and the aboriginal people start screaming, snake, snake, snake, snake.
[47:07] Speaker 2: And I look and this like probably eight foot Taipan
[47:09] Speaker 2: goes racing under this house that's like up on cinder blocks.
[47:12] Speaker 2: And this guy's like holding a cinder block like this.
[47:14] Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, wait, I'll catch it.
[47:15] Speaker 4: I'll move it for you. Don't kill it.
[47:16] Speaker 2: Because I don't, you know, I don't really like things
[47:17] Speaker 2: to die needlessly. And so long story made short, I
[47:22] Speaker 2: do this whole song and dance trying to catch the snake.
[47:24] Speaker 2: And he's curled up under this house that's up on
[47:26] Speaker 2: like three cinder blocks. I'm looking with my flashlight. I
[47:28] Speaker 2: got my snake hook. I lose sight of him under
[47:30] Speaker 2: the house. The house, because it's up on center blocks
[47:33] Speaker 2: has like three slotted stairs going up to it. I'm like,
[47:36] Speaker 2: where's that fucking snake gone? I can't find it. I
[47:38] Speaker 2: can't find it. So I decided to stick my head
[47:40] Speaker 2: through the slats of the stairs, right? To look for
[47:43] Speaker 2: it with my flashlight. So I stick my arm and
[47:44] Speaker 2: stick my flashlight. I look this way and I'm just
[47:47] Speaker 2: about to turn and look this way. And I just
[47:48] Speaker 2: feel the thing swear to God starts crawling up my
[47:51] Speaker 2: neck and I just freeze. I've just told you guys,
[47:53] Speaker 2: like literally one of the most venomous creatures on planet Earth.
[47:56] Speaker 2: One bite and I'm dead. And I'm like 12 hours
[47:58] Speaker 2: from anything. And this coastal taipan, not the inland, but
[48:02] Speaker 2: the coastal, crawls literally over my neck and over my
[48:06] Speaker 2: arm and down and coils up over there. And it
[48:08] Speaker 2: just goes to show you, they're not aggressive. You just
[48:11] Speaker 2: mess with them and they're going to get upset. And yeah,
[48:13] Speaker 2: thank God it didn't bite me, especially on the neck.
[48:16] Speaker 2: Ended up catching it and moving it after that. But
[48:17] Speaker 2: it was crazy.
[48:18] Speaker 1: Yo, that is.
[48:20] Speaker 4: insane i get goosebumps just thinking about that time.
[48:23] Speaker 5: I would definitely classify that as a near death experience
[48:27] Speaker 5: yeah how many of those have you had.
[48:29] Speaker 2: Uh a few now unfortunately yeah i mean a couple
[48:34] Speaker 2: plane crashes that one i thought i rubbed snake venom
[48:37] Speaker 2: in my eye one time i thought that was gonna
[48:39] Speaker 2: kill me uh yeah a couple couple bad things plane
[48:43] Speaker 2: crashes too yeah what Bro, come on.
[48:46] Speaker 5: How?
[48:47] Speaker 3: What?
[48:48] Speaker 2: One was in Zimbabwe where I grew up and a
[48:50] Speaker 2: plane got struck by lightning. So all the instruments went down.
[48:53] Speaker 2: Then when we came to land, because all the instruments
[48:56] Speaker 2: were down, we couldn't see what was going on.
[48:58] Speaker 4: Big storm.
[48:59] Speaker 2: And the wing hit the termite mound. You know, you
[49:01] Speaker 2: have those big termite mounds in Africa. So the plane just.
[49:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[49:05] Speaker 2: So plane was trash. We were okay. Broken ribs, stuff
[49:08] Speaker 2: like that, but otherwise good. And the other one was
[49:10] Speaker 2: actually in Panama. And that was less dramatic. The plane
[49:14] Speaker 2: just went off the end of the runway and into
[49:16] Speaker 2: the trees.
[49:18] Speaker 3: Just a little fender bender. Yeah, yeah.
[49:19] Speaker 2: I mean still a total plane but it was like
[49:21] Speaker 2: into the trees.
[49:23] Speaker 1: Oh you're you're a psycho i don't know but.
[49:27] Speaker 4: But a lot of this a lot it sounds safer
[49:29] Speaker 4: to me than wrestling people to be honest i.
[49:31] Speaker 5: Don't know i don't know because we're just risking like
[49:34] Speaker 5: paralysis from either the waist up or waist down not
[49:37] Speaker 5: our lives.
[49:39] Speaker 4: Still sounds scary.
[49:40] Speaker 1: Actually, that's not even true. I don't know. That's so funny.
[49:45] Speaker 3: I'm afraid of what you do.
[49:46] Speaker 4: That's all right. We can be afraid of each other.
[49:47] Speaker 4: That's crazy. What were you going to say, Mike?
[49:49] Speaker 3: I was just going to say a lot of the
[49:50] Speaker 3: stuff that you're doing has a potential to impact positively
[49:55] Speaker 3: the world, right? You found eight species of animals that
[49:59] Speaker 3: were thought to be extinct.
[50:01] Speaker 4: That's right.
[50:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[50:03] Speaker 3: What were those animals? Can you like rattle them off? Sure.
[50:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[50:06] Speaker 4: If you want.
[50:07] Speaker 1: I think it's awesome.
[50:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[50:09] Speaker 2: So it's the Fernandina tortoise, the Miller's grizzle langur, the
[50:12] Speaker 2: Rio apoporus caiman, the Zanzibar leopard, and then four different
[50:17] Speaker 2: species of shark.
[50:19] Speaker 1: How do you not notice where a turtle is? They
[50:21] Speaker 1: don't move very fast.
[50:22] Speaker 4: That's a good question.
[50:23] Speaker 2: So this was on a very remote island in the
[50:25] Speaker 2: Galapagos that gets no foot traffic.
[50:27] Speaker 4: It's closed to the public.
[50:28] Speaker 2: And only one specimen of that species had ever been
[50:31] Speaker 2: found 114 years prior. And to date, it's still the
[50:35] Speaker 2: only known individual. So one tortoise that's this big on
[50:40] Speaker 2: a big island.
[50:41] Speaker 4: And we tracked it down and found it.
[50:43] Speaker 1: So cool.
[50:44] Speaker 3: And what happens when that happens? What's the protocol? First
[50:46] Speaker 3: of all, do you go crazy?
[50:48] Speaker 2: Oh, I go ape shit. My wife will kill me
[50:51] Speaker 2: for saying it. It's the happiest moment of my life.
[50:53] Speaker 2: Way better than getting married or having kids.
[50:55] Speaker 3: That's great. Well, bro, think about what you're doing that's
[50:57] Speaker 3: so different than what everyone else is doing.
[51:00] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[51:02] Speaker 3: Having kids is beautiful and wife and all that stuff,
[51:04] Speaker 3: but you're bringing back a species.
[51:06] Speaker 4: It's no tortoise, Mike. It's no tortoise. No, I mean,
[51:11] Speaker 4: I lose it. Like, I get emotional. I go crazy.
[51:13] Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's why the shows are successful
[51:15] Speaker 2: because I'm so passionate about these things. But, you know,
[51:18] Speaker 2: like I dove in this bush like that thing was
[51:20] Speaker 2: a cheetah and it was a tortoise, wasn't going anywhere, scooped.
[51:23] Speaker 4: It up and held it up.
[51:24] Speaker 2: And it was it was literally the happiest moment of
[51:26] Speaker 2: my life. And I was holding to date the rarest
[51:29] Speaker 2: animal on planet, literally more rare than the direwolves they
[51:32] Speaker 2: brought back because there's three of them. This is the
[51:34] Speaker 2: only individual of the species known on planet Earth. So
[51:38] Speaker 2: it's the rarest creature on Earth. And it's just for me,
[51:41] Speaker 2: it's just like so exciting. So to answer your question,
[51:43] Speaker 2: I used to try and get involved in the ongoing
[51:45] Speaker 2: conservation and management of the species. But I'm just like
[51:49] Speaker 2: the hide and seek guy. I'm the mercenary. You know,
[51:52] Speaker 2: I hand it over wherever I can or I work
[51:53] Speaker 2: with governments and local organizations. And then they take on
[51:57] Speaker 2: the management or the conservation of that species. And I
[51:59] Speaker 2: go on to try and promote awareness and help and
[52:02] Speaker 2: find the next thing.
[52:02] Speaker 3: So what did they do when you found that? Like,
[52:05] Speaker 3: what was the next step?
[52:06] Speaker 2: So Fern, which is what we named her. got moved
[52:09] Speaker 2: to the Fausa Lorena breeding facility, which is where Lonesome George,
[52:12] Speaker 2: the other last ever big tortoise was, on Santa Cruz Island.
[52:16] Speaker 2: And then I had a bit of a falling out
[52:18] Speaker 2: with the Galapagos government, unfortunately.
[52:22] Speaker 4: Oh, man.
[52:22] Speaker 3: Sorry to hear it, man.
[52:23] Speaker 2: They weren't too happy that I found the only tortoise
[52:26] Speaker 2: that they hadn't been able to find in 114 years.
[52:27] Speaker 3: What?
[52:27] Speaker 4: What? No, because it was like an ego thing.
[52:30] Speaker 3: Yeah, but come on.
[52:32] Speaker 4: Anyway, I don't want to discourage them, but.
[52:34] Speaker 2: They never invited me back to go look for more,
[52:37] Speaker 2: and they've mounted three or four expeditions since to find
[52:39] Speaker 2: a mate for Fern, and they've not succeeded.
[52:41] Speaker 3: Oh, man.
[52:42] Speaker 1: You know what's so funny?
[52:43] Speaker 5: Ever since I first heard about Charles Darwin going to
[52:46] Speaker 5: the Galapagos Island, as like a child, I had always
[52:49] Speaker 5: wanted to go there.
[52:50] Speaker 1: It's on my bucket list.
[52:51] Speaker 4: Oh, you got to go.
[52:51] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[52:52] Speaker 4: Incredible.
[52:53] Speaker 2: The coolest thing about it, the animals are very unique, yes,
[52:56] Speaker 2: but what's even cooler than that is there's not a
[52:58] Speaker 2: single animal that's scared of you.
[53:00] Speaker 4: Because there's no big predators there.
[53:02] Speaker 2: So like you can walk up to a seal or
[53:04] Speaker 2: a sea lion and it'll like try and hug your feet.
[53:08] Speaker 2: Or you'll be walking where all these iguanas are and
[53:10] Speaker 2: they just look at you. Like nothing runs away because
[53:12] Speaker 2: the people came there so late in time and they've
[53:15] Speaker 2: never had any natural land predators.
[53:16] Speaker 4: So nothing's scared of you.
[53:18] Speaker 2: So it's like being in this like almost like Eden
[53:20] Speaker 2: where all the animals are like friend, friend it's unbelievable.
[53:23] Speaker 5: So cool but yeah i don't know if the government
[53:25] Speaker 5: would have me though like i like like egypt won't
[53:27] Speaker 5: wouldn't let me go with mr mr jimmy beast to
[53:31] Speaker 5: go live in the pyramids for days wait.
[53:33] Speaker 3: They specifically said no logan paul.
[53:35] Speaker 5: Yes that's exactly what they said jimmy you can come
[53:39] Speaker 5: stay in our pyramids all three of them unfettered access
[53:41] Speaker 5: for a week jimmy As long as you don't bring
[53:44] Speaker 5: Logan Paul.
[53:45] Speaker 4: No way they said that.
[53:46] Speaker 1: They said that.
[53:46] Speaker 3: Yo, imagine they really just don't like your WWE stuff.
[53:50] Speaker 1: It was a, yeah. Like, cause you're like, they, they're
[53:53] Speaker 1: a jelly roll fan.
[53:53] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[53:54] Speaker 5: No, he, uh, they also said Vitaly who had, who
[53:57] Speaker 5: had climbed one of the, those two people.
[53:59] Speaker 1: Yeah. Which in my head, I'm like, I've never been
[54:02] Speaker 1: to Egypt.
[54:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[54:03] Speaker 1: Never talked shit about Egypt. I love Egypt.
[54:05] Speaker 3: Yeah. What could it be?
[54:06] Speaker 1: And I think I found it. I found out what
[54:08] Speaker 1: it was.
[54:08] Speaker 4: What is it?
[54:11] Speaker 5: Do you remember the guy who went on Joe Rogan?
[54:15] Speaker 5: He's a super famous Egyptologist.
[54:18] Speaker 1: He's Egyptian. He's the guy who digs up the mummies.
[54:21] Speaker 4: The old guy?
[54:22] Speaker 1: Yes.
[54:22] Speaker 4: Smokes all his cigars?
[54:23] Speaker 3: Yes.
[54:23] Speaker 4: I do remember that. Oh, I don't know.
[54:25] Speaker 1: I don't know his name. He's a doctor.
[54:27] Speaker 3: I think.
[54:27] Speaker 2: I think Joe Rogan said, I think he might've said
[54:29] Speaker 2: this to me. He was the worst guest he ever
[54:31] Speaker 2: had on.
[54:32] Speaker 5: Well, because, well, because Rogan was like pressing him about like,
[54:35] Speaker 5: like what could be.
[54:38] Speaker 1: And he's like, no, like.
[54:39] Speaker 5: There's no, it's impossible that there's aliens out there.
[54:43] Speaker 4: And it's like, yo, like, is it impossible? And he's like,
[54:46] Speaker 4: engage with me in the conversation.
[54:48] Speaker 5: So I think this is just my gut, but I
[54:53] Speaker 5: think based on seeing that sentiment, I've been kind of
[54:56] Speaker 5: outspoken about who, who built the pyramids.
[54:59] Speaker 1: I've just been asking questions.
[55:00] Speaker 4: And they don't like that?
[55:01] Speaker 1: I don't think they like.
[55:05] Speaker 1: What else could I have done besides that one other thing?
[55:09] Speaker 4: Mike, why is your face turning red, bro? I don't think.
[55:12] Speaker 3: It had to do with aliens.
[55:13] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[55:14] Speaker 5: What if I did the Egyptian government? They blacklisted me,
[55:17] Speaker 5: but maybe the Galapagos.
[55:18] Speaker 4: The Galapagos will not have that issue, I don't think.
[55:21] Speaker 3: We could be out there hugging seals.
[55:23] Speaker 4: Dude, you can... I mean, not legally, but, you know. No, no, no.
[55:26] Speaker 1: The seals hug.
[55:27] Speaker 4: That's right. They can hug you. You can't hug them. Oh,
[55:30] Speaker 4: got it.
[55:32] Speaker 3: Do you have to walk far there?
[55:33] Speaker 4: No, not really.
[55:34] Speaker 3: I have no ankle on my right leg.
[55:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, no ankle.
[55:37] Speaker 3: Well, I still have it. It's just that it's not
[55:40] Speaker 3: working really well.
[55:40] Speaker 4: You don't have to do long walks or anything.
[55:42] Speaker 3: Really?
[55:42] Speaker 4: It's very catered to people visiting it.
[55:46] Speaker 1: I should go.
[55:47] Speaker 3: Why?
[55:47] Speaker 5: Because I was flown here to do a job for
[55:51] Speaker 5: the company that I work for.
[55:52] Speaker 3: Oh, that's a pretty good reason.
[55:53] Speaker 4: That's a good reason.
[55:54] Speaker 3: You answered it extremely well.
[55:55] Speaker 5: I think you two should continue.
[55:57] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[55:58] Speaker 3: I'm cool with that.
[55:58] Speaker 4: I'm super down.
[55:59] Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to have someone connect us afterwards.
[56:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[56:02] Speaker 4: Sounds good, man.
[56:02] Speaker 1: What do you want to do about the photograph?
[56:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[56:05] Speaker 1: Can we take a photograph?
[56:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
[56:07] Speaker 4: Just jump back in.
[56:07] Speaker 1: Just because, bro, I'm going to watch the rest of
[56:09] Speaker 1: this episode.
[56:10] Speaker 3: On this topic of extinct animals.
[56:12] Speaker 4: Now that that fire is finally gone.
[56:14] Speaker 3: Bro, what's the deal with that guy, dude?
[56:16] Speaker 4: You tell me. He's your buddy.
[56:18] Speaker 3: He's got so much shit going on, dude. I know.
[56:19] Speaker 4: I'm just teasing. No, that was cool.
[56:21] Speaker 3: That was awesome. This rarely happens, but he might be
[56:25] Speaker 3: one of the hardest working people on the internet.
[56:28] Speaker 2: I forget who told me that when we connected for
[56:30] Speaker 2: the pod, but they were just like, he never stops.
[56:34] Speaker 3: It's a different level. I don't think people truly understand.
[56:37] Speaker 3: It's just thing to thing to thing to thing. Yeah.
[56:40] Speaker 3: Like he wakes up and rolls out of bed, gets
[56:43] Speaker 3: on emails, gets on calls for prime, whatever, goes to
[56:45] Speaker 3: this thing, flies to this thing, goes to this thing.
[56:47] Speaker 3: It just never stops, dude.
[56:48] Speaker 4: I mean, look at what he's built though. So it's awesome.
[56:51] Speaker 3: An empire, but he's not allowed to go to Egypt.
[56:53] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
[56:54] Speaker 3: And it's not, and it's not because of aliens.
[56:56] Speaker 2: I'm going to make some calls on that. Cause I,
[56:58] Speaker 2: I've worked with them in a environmental capacity.
[57:01] Speaker 3: You know, another thing about them too, is it's like,
[57:03] Speaker 3: it's weird, but people, people kind of like set their
[57:06] Speaker 3: judgment on him and his brother, and they're really not
[57:09] Speaker 3: willing to talk about it. Really? Yeah.
[57:13] Speaker 2: I find that interesting because from a public perspective, I
[57:16] Speaker 2: always think of, and I don't want to be mean
[57:18] Speaker 2: about anything, but it seems like he's the good brother
[57:21] Speaker 2: and his brother's the bad brother.
[57:23] Speaker 4: That's what it seems.
[57:24] Speaker 3: They swap back and forth. It depends on what the
[57:26] Speaker 3: news cycle says. It depends on what the latest controversy is.
[57:30] Speaker 3: It really flip-flops back and forth. Jake, I think LP's
[57:35] Speaker 3: probably had a little bit more trouble recently than... than Jake.
[57:38] Speaker 3: Jake's been just so locked in on boxing. Do you
[57:41] Speaker 3: watch all the stuff? Oh, yeah.
[57:43] Speaker 2: I mean, not everything, but I've watched his fight career,
[57:46] Speaker 2: and I like sports, so I've just kept an eye
[57:49] Speaker 2: on that, and it's cool.
[57:51] Speaker 3: Do you think that... Do you subscribe to the absurdity
[57:56] Speaker 3: of all of it? Do you think that we're in
[57:59] Speaker 3: a place where things will start to pendulum back in
[58:03] Speaker 3: any direction? Or do you think that the absurdity of
[58:05] Speaker 3: all of this stuff is just getting started? And by
[58:06] Speaker 3: all of this stuff, I mean your kids will grow
[58:09] Speaker 3: up saying that the boxer that introduced them to the
[58:12] Speaker 3: sport was Jake Paul. The person that introduced them to
[58:16] Speaker 3: WWE will be Logan Paul, right?
[58:17] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[58:18] Speaker 3: Do you think that we're moving towards a place where
[58:21] Speaker 3: it's going to slow down or do you think we're
[58:23] Speaker 3: just getting started?
[58:24] Speaker 4: I think we're just getting started. And I think it's awesome.
[58:26] Speaker 2: It's the same reason that, you know, dude, when, when
[58:29] Speaker 2: LP says, let's go do animal stuff, I get so
[58:31] Speaker 2: excited because if I, if I imagine 10 years from now,
[58:34] Speaker 2: I'm walking down the street and some fan runs up
[58:36] Speaker 2: to me and goes, dude, because of when you and
[58:38] Speaker 2: Logan Paul went to the Galapagos, I now study iguanas.
[58:42] Speaker 2: I'm going to be like, fuck yeah, that is so
[58:44] Speaker 2: awesome that Logan and I went to the Galapagos and
[58:47] Speaker 2: you now love iguanas.
[58:48] Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I think that's so cool.
[58:51] Speaker 2: That sounds very arrogant the way I phrased it, but
[58:53] Speaker 2: I think it's so cool that people that just have
[58:56] Speaker 2: a passion, whatever that passion is, whether it's WWE or
[58:59] Speaker 2: boxing or animals or whatever it is, can bring it
[59:01] Speaker 2: to the masses. It never used to be like that.
[59:04] Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's a good point because there
[59:05] Speaker 3: used to be such a gatekeeping, and I think that's
[59:08] Speaker 3: like the weird part about all of it is like,
[59:10] Speaker 3: you know it's weird as you watch like musicians nowadays
[59:15] Speaker 3: can't play instruments a lot of rappers can't even rap
[59:19] Speaker 3: yeah you know what i'm saying but because of their
[59:21] Speaker 3: ability to to spread to the master you so you
[59:24] Speaker 3: have to ask yourself that question like is, is the,
[59:28] Speaker 3: is the gatekeeping worth it or is it, or is
[59:31] Speaker 3: it more worth it to be able to spread the, the,
[59:34] Speaker 3: the message widely? Right. And that's kind of like the,
[59:36] Speaker 3: that's kind of like the table stakes nowadays is like,
[59:38] Speaker 3: can you deliver a message broad?
[59:40] Speaker 2: How's your storytelling? Like what is your storytelling abilities? Um,
[59:44] Speaker 2: and I, I think it's great. And I think there'll
[59:46] Speaker 2: always be a healthy balance of both. You know, there'll
[59:48] Speaker 2: always be people who come up the traditional sense, whether
[59:51] Speaker 2: that's going to university, studying, becoming a seasoned biologist or
[59:54] Speaker 2: do it through media or, you know, starting boxing from
[59:57] Speaker 2: a kid. Cause you're a legacy or joining it after
[59:59] Speaker 2: being an influencer.
[1:00:00] Speaker 4: Like who cares? It's great. The more people that get
[1:00:03] Speaker 4: into these things, the better.
[1:00:04] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:00:05] Speaker 4: That's what I think.
[1:00:05] Speaker 3: Totally. So what animals do you think are out there that,
[1:00:09] Speaker 3: are currently listed as extinct, but might still be out there.
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: Dude, we have a list, my team and I, of
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: probably around 1200 species that we think have the potential
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: to still be out there that are declared extinct or missing.
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: And of those 1200, there's like eight of them that I'm,
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: I'd say I'm almost positive are still out there.
[1:00:27] Speaker 3: And what does that process look like as you try
[1:00:29] Speaker 3: to like actually go find one?
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: It's all dependent on the creature because that's the cool
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: thing about animals and conservation. There is no blanket approach.
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: You can look at certain variables like, is there sufficient habitat?
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: Is it protected? Is there prey species? When was the
[1:00:44] Speaker 2: last time it was seen? Who's reporting it? Who declared
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: it extinct? Why was it declared extinct? All these various factors.
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: And then you can start to sort of paint a
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: picture of, well, wait a minute. That was just some
[1:00:54] Speaker 2: British dude who went there 70 years ago who said
[1:00:57] Speaker 2: it was extinct because he didn't find it after smoking
[1:00:59] Speaker 2: cigars for 10 days in the jungle. You know, I'm exaggerating. But, like,
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: you can kind of, like, start to paint this picture
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: and just go, wait a minute. This is human arrogance
[1:01:06] Speaker 2: that is declared this way, and it might not be true.
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: So we go and launch these super cool expeditions. And
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: I'm leaving for the first one I've done in a
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: long time, extinct animal expedition in Borneo in November, which
[1:01:18] Speaker 2: I'm really excited about.
[1:01:19] Speaker 3: Who funds it?
[1:01:21] Speaker 2: So I started YouTube about two years ago. I also
[1:01:26] Speaker 2: have all these Discovery Channel shows and projects. So I'm
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: self-funding it now. It used to be funded by, we'd
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: get some grant money, but mostly through network funding. So
[1:01:36] Speaker 2: like Animal Planet would pay me to do a show.
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: I produced the show. So I'd then use a portion
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: of that money to go on the expedition and the adventure.
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: And that was the funding model.
[1:01:44] Speaker 3: So you're coming out of pocket personally to pay for
[1:01:47] Speaker 3: this stuff. Yep. And I guess why?
[1:01:50] Speaker 4: Well, now there's a return with YouTube.
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: Like, my YouTube's grown quite a lot. And I've only
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: been doing it a little while. But now, if I
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: put out a big video, that video makes a lot
[1:02:00] Speaker 2: of money. You know, between sponsors and ad dollars and
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: clicks and all this stuff, it adds up to... You know, look,
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: I've got to make maybe 10 videos for every one
[1:02:09] Speaker 2: that really... if I'm going to make 10 videos in
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: an office or a studio or a small adventure, and
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: then I can take that money and put that money
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: into one grand adventure that I know won't pencil out,
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: that's fine. Because I'm not, I was never in this
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: for the money. Like I've done well enough, but I'm
[1:02:26] Speaker 2: in this for the adventure and the conservation.
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: Would you ever bring a streamer to any of these places?
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: I can see a world where Speed or Kai or
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: one of these big guys would go out. I'll take anyone.
[1:02:40] Speaker 4: Bro, I'll take anyone. I don't care who you are.
[1:02:42] Speaker 2: I don't care what your religious views are, your political views,
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: your sexual views, social views.
[1:02:46] Speaker 4: I couldn't care any less what you stand for.
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: If you have a big audience or you have a
[1:02:52] Speaker 2: big message or you want to go experience something awesome
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: in the wild.
[1:02:55] Speaker 4: World, I'll take you.
[1:02:56] Speaker 3: I mean, you kicked it off with the Nail Boys.
[1:02:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: Bringing vapes.
[1:03:02] Speaker 4: Which I didn't even know what I was getting into
[1:03:03] Speaker 4: when I did. But yeah, it was awesome. And we're
[1:03:06] Speaker 4: really good friends now.
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: Were you worried at all about bringing them out there?
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: I was worried more from a like, how are these
[1:03:13] Speaker 2: guys going to manage standpoint? Because they're not used to
[1:03:17] Speaker 2: sleeping on huts and working with tribes and being covered
[1:03:20] Speaker 2: in mosquitoes and stuff like that, and they handle.
[1:03:21] Speaker 4: It like champs.
[1:03:22] Speaker 3: They didn't complain at all?
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: Oh, they complained bitterly every second of the day, but
[1:03:26] Speaker 2: they complained in a funny way that was, you know,
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: embracing the suck kind of thing, and it was awesome.
[1:03:32] Speaker 4: What's your dream, Mike? Where would you go? What's your
[1:03:34] Speaker 4: wildlife fantasy?
[1:03:35] Speaker 3: You know, honestly, dude, I'm scared of a lot of
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: those animals, dude. Yeah? I really am. They scare... Like, dude,
[1:03:42] Speaker 3: like spiders and shit scares the shit. Like.
[1:03:44] Speaker 4: I don't like spiders.
[1:03:45] Speaker 3: I hate spiders. I mean, I would say, like... I
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: think it would be cool to go to Antarctica. Have
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: you been there? Never.
[1:03:53] Speaker 4: It's the only continent I haven't stepped foot on.
[1:03:56] Speaker 3: Do you think there's any chance that... that's the end
[1:03:59] Speaker 3: of the earth and the earth is flat and it's
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: being protected by the government.
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't be honest. I'm not
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: a flat earther. I've also see all these things now.
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: Have you seen this of like, there's a secret society,
[1:04:10] Speaker 2: a civilization in Antarctica. Then that's why the military protects it.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: I've been seeing that floating around.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: Do you buy in any of that shit, bro?
[1:04:17] Speaker 4: If you have been to the Arctic, which I've been to.
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:04:20] Speaker 4: Nobody's surviving there.
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible that native people were able to
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: move through like the land bridge and into the Arctic
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: and stuff because, yeah, there are some weeks in the
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: summer where it's tolerable, but it is a fucking harsh environment.
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: Where did you go in the Arctic?
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: I've been a couple places through Scandinavia. I've been through
[1:04:39] Speaker 2: the Aleutian Islands in Alaska. I went in the Canadian Arctic.
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: I've been a few spots up there.
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: So I've been to, this probably almost doesn't even count,
[1:04:48] Speaker 3: but I've been to like Lapland in Finland.
[1:04:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.
[1:04:54] Speaker 3: I've, I've gotten to travel, not like you have, but
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: I've gone to a lot of places and I, I
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: really don't know that I've experienced a beauty like that,
[1:05:03] Speaker 3: that Northern realm of the, of the world. Like even,
[1:05:07] Speaker 3: even like it's, it's not in the circle, but like
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: even like Iceland. Yeah. you go there and it presents an,
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: it presents a whole new perspective on life and on,
[1:05:17] Speaker 3: on what the planet looks like in the black sand
[1:05:19] Speaker 3: and the, and you know, like, it's just, it's just insane.
[1:05:22] Speaker 3: And I got a really good glimpse of the Northern
[1:05:24] Speaker 3: lights in, uh, in, in Finland. And it was just incredible.
[1:05:28] Speaker 2: I mean, it, our planet is, I don't want to
[1:05:32] Speaker 2: sound preachy, but it's so diverse. I mean, you look
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: out where we are right now, and then you look
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: at Lapland, or you look at Death Valley, or it's
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: unbelievable how incredible this planet is and how many landscapes
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: and ecosystems and crazy animals, like crazy sharks and snakes
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: and bugs and mammals, venomous monkeys. I mean, crazy stuff
[1:05:52] Speaker 2: on this planet. It's so cool.
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: And just like the landscapes in general. I guess like
[1:05:57] Speaker 3: for me, it just– it always– like makes me super
[1:06:01] Speaker 3: grateful to have the ability to travel and to see
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: all these places. Yeah.
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: We're very, I mean, you're yourself, myself, anybody who gets
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: to experience stuff like this is unbelievably lucky.
[1:06:13] Speaker 4: You take it with you forever.
[1:06:14] Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
[1:06:15] Speaker 2: You pass it on to your kids, pass it on
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: to your friends, whatever it is, but it's, It's nothing
[1:06:19] Speaker 2: like experiencing travel.
[1:06:21] Speaker 4: It's the best.
[1:06:22] Speaker 3: How do you turn it off? Like, how do you,
[1:06:25] Speaker 3: for me, I don't know about you, but like when
[1:06:27] Speaker 3: I come back from a lot of these trips, like
[1:06:28] Speaker 3: I just went on this month long trip, I was
[1:06:30] Speaker 3: in Copenhagen, I was in Ibiza, some places I've already been,
[1:06:33] Speaker 3: some new places. And then sometimes I'll get back and
[1:06:36] Speaker 3: it's almost like this like super dopamine, like drop off.
[1:06:39] Speaker 4: I know the feeling.
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: So I usually, and tell me if you've experienced this,
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: but I usually get back and I'm like, oh, thank God.
[1:06:46] Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be home. I'm so exhausted. I've
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: sent it so hard. And then literally like three days later,
[1:06:52] Speaker 2: I'm like antsy. I'm like, I got to get out
[1:06:53] Speaker 2: of the house. Like I'm going crazy. I'm stir crazy.
[1:06:55] Speaker 2: And I always think when I'm traveling and sitting on
[1:06:58] Speaker 2: planes and shit, I'm like, I need like three weeks
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: at home. It's the only way I can rejuvenate or re-energize.
[1:07:03] Speaker 2: 48 hours go by and I'm like, right, I got
[1:07:05] Speaker 2: to get to the next thing. Like if I sit
[1:07:07] Speaker 2: for too long, I maybe I have ADD or something.
[1:07:09] Speaker 3: I'm exactly the same. And I, and I, and I
[1:07:12] Speaker 3: wonder about it sometimes if this like wanderlust is, uh,
[1:07:16] Speaker 3: kind of like a new addiction.
[1:07:18] Speaker 4: Oh, totally.
[1:07:20] Speaker 3: I've always been like such a, like so obsessed and,
[1:07:22] Speaker 3: and like enamored with Bourdain and like his desire to journey.
[1:07:25] Speaker 3: And for me, like your animal thing for me is food. Yeah.
[1:07:29] Speaker 3: I love that. I love food. I love eating, trying,
[1:07:31] Speaker 3: you know, different dishes in different countries and everything. Um,
[1:07:34] Speaker 3: And I just wonder how you balance it. And it
[1:07:38] Speaker 3: seems like you do a pretty good job of it.
[1:07:40] Speaker 3: You have a family. Did you always feel like that
[1:07:43] Speaker 3: was part of your journey?
[1:07:46] Speaker 4: Good question. I didn't think about it.
[1:07:49] Speaker 3: Like at all?
[1:07:50] Speaker 4: Not really.
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: But, you know, I've known my wife since we were
[1:07:53] Speaker 2: 17 years old. You know, we didn't get married at
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: 17 or anything like that. But I've known her a
[1:07:57] Speaker 2: very long time. And I just, like, I always wanted
[1:08:01] Speaker 2: a family. I always wanted someone to share this with.
[1:08:04] Speaker 2: And do you have kids?
[1:08:05] Speaker 3: No.
[1:08:06] Speaker 4: That's why I ask.
[1:08:07] Speaker 3: I ask curiously. It's kind of a funny, become kind
[1:08:12] Speaker 3: of a meme of me being this, like, unk, you know, girl.
[1:08:15] Speaker 3: You're an unk? I don't start a family, and I...
[1:08:17] Speaker 3: For various reasons, haven't done it. I've got some some
[1:08:20] Speaker 3: disconnects there in the relationship world and spent a lot
[1:08:24] Speaker 3: of my life not developing those those tactics. And that's
[1:08:27] Speaker 3: why I ask if it was something that was like
[1:08:29] Speaker 3: kind of always in your recipe.
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: It wasn't, but I always knew I wanted to have
[1:08:32] Speaker 2: a family. And whether you're the uncle or the dad
[1:08:34] Speaker 2: or whatever, now things that are mundane to me like.
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: catching another fish in Santa Barbara, where I live, catching
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: another white sea bass or a yellowtail, which I've done
[1:08:44] Speaker 2: a thousand times.
[1:08:45] Speaker 4: Could I go and do it?
[1:08:46] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:08:46] Speaker 4: I get this tiny little dopamine hit from it. Like
[1:08:49] Speaker 4: it's fun.
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, cool.
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: I caught a fish, whatever. I take my five-year-old. It's like,
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: I'm seeing it for the first time again. And that part,
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: and even when, even as an older cousin, not an uncle,
[1:08:59] Speaker 2: but I have that same feeling then too. And I
[1:09:01] Speaker 2: think it's the same feeling that I get when I'm
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: communicating conservation wildlife to like people on social media and stuff.
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: That's like, I could catch that fish a thousand times
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: if I see those smiles, if that makes sense.
[1:09:12] Speaker 3: A hundred percent. People have told me about that so much.
[1:09:15] Speaker 3: And I, I certainly like understand the sentiment of being
[1:09:17] Speaker 3: able to relive life again for the first time. And,
[1:09:21] Speaker 3: you know, like you, you, you see a kid, it's,
[1:09:23] Speaker 3: it's funny. Um, they liken, uh, watching someone on a
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: lot of psychoactives, like psilocybin and mushrooms and acid and
[1:09:32] Speaker 3: stuff like that. It's like watching a kid go through
[1:09:34] Speaker 3: the mall for the first time. And they, you know,
[1:09:36] Speaker 3: they're holding their parents hand and they're just looking around
[1:09:38] Speaker 3: with wide eyes and everything is just so incredible. And
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: the idea of being able to relive such mundane things
[1:09:43] Speaker 3: and find that joy in it again is definitely attractive
[1:09:46] Speaker 3: to me. I just like, for me, it's, I guess
[1:09:48] Speaker 3: I've just been kind of waiting for life to slow down.
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: And it hasn't.
[1:09:52] Speaker 4: And so what? Do you know what I mean?
[1:09:54] Speaker 2: Like life is for enjoying no matter what facet of
[1:09:57] Speaker 2: it you're in. And I've seen that whether it's in
[1:10:00] Speaker 2: that remote island of Vanuatu or in the poorest nations
[1:10:03] Speaker 2: in Africa or Asia or South America, whatever.
[1:10:06] Speaker 4: Just embrace life.
[1:10:07] Speaker 2: Don't be upset about stuff you don't have or places
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: you haven't been or things you haven't been.
[1:10:11] Speaker 4: If you can just have that sort.
[1:10:12] Speaker 2: Of childhood sense of wonder, and this is getting very
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: ethereal now, but it just makes everything better. Maybe I'm
[1:10:18] Speaker 2: like constantly drugged up and don't even realize it, but
[1:10:20] Speaker 2: like I get so excited just to do new things
[1:10:23] Speaker 2: and see new things and be with new people and
[1:10:24] Speaker 2: then get to share that with little ones or people
[1:10:27] Speaker 2: that love conservation.
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: It's just like, it's fun.
[1:10:29] Speaker 4: Just enjoy life. Who cares?
[1:10:31] Speaker 3: And you definitely like found your thing, right? And I
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: definitely like understand the opposing side or the people that
[1:10:39] Speaker 3: haven't found their thing and it's stressful and they want to.
[1:10:44] Speaker 3: What would you say like as like a piece of
[1:10:45] Speaker 3: advice to people watching this that like may be in
[1:10:48] Speaker 3: their 30s or 40s and may have lost some of
[1:10:51] Speaker 3: that curiosity or lust for life? Like how would you
[1:10:55] Speaker 3: push people to try to reinvigorate that?
[1:10:57] Speaker 4: I would say that you just have to try new things.
[1:10:59] Speaker 2: And for me, those new things always come in the
[1:11:01] Speaker 2: form of being outdoors, but maybe they're food, maybe they're travel,
[1:11:04] Speaker 2: maybe they're a video game.
[1:11:06] Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter.
[1:11:07] Speaker 2: But I think what happens is we get, as we
[1:11:10] Speaker 2: get older, we get scared to try new things because
[1:11:14] Speaker 2: it's different.
[1:11:14] Speaker 4: It's hard.
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: It's a lot of effort to go to a new place,
[1:11:17] Speaker 2: to try something different. I want to go to the
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: same restaurant. I want to do the same thing I
[1:11:20] Speaker 2: do every day. But then some of those new things
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: are not going to be for you and they might suck.
[1:11:26] Speaker 2: But every once in a while, fucking paddle ball comes out.
[1:11:28] Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
[1:11:30] Speaker 2: Everybody's into fucking paddle now. It's like, great, if that's
[1:11:32] Speaker 2: your thing, that's your thing. But you have to try
[1:11:34] Speaker 2: it to figure that out. And I think people get
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: scared to try new stuff.
[1:11:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly feel like that sometimes. I'm getting the
[1:11:40] Speaker 3: wrap-up from a producer, even though the co-owner of the
[1:11:44] Speaker 3: show had asked us to continue going. You got somewhere
[1:11:46] Speaker 3: to go? Do you have somewhere to go? I don't
[1:11:50] Speaker 3: see anyone from the venue here, Dylan. Maybe you have
[1:11:53] Speaker 3: some questions for.
[1:11:54] Speaker 4: Our delightful guest today. Am I boring you, Dylan? Is
[1:11:56] Speaker 4: that what's happening?
[1:11:56] Speaker 3: Why don't you take a fucking seat?
[1:11:58] Speaker 4: I'm so impressed with.
[1:12:01] Speaker 3: How close you are. Oh, yeah, you are incredible. And honestly,
[1:12:04] Speaker 3: we could have, could do, you know, hours with you.
[1:12:07] Speaker 3: And I know Logan's super into the animal stuff. But
[1:12:10] Speaker 3: we'll do it again, and I appreciate you coming through.
[1:12:12] Speaker 3: Do you have anything you want to shout out? Any–
[1:12:17] Speaker 3: conservation people, uh, what's your Instagram, all that stuff like that. Yeah.
[1:12:22] Speaker 4: I mean, not really. I have everything.
[1:12:24] Speaker 2: I have all the social media channels just started doing YouTube.
[1:12:27] Speaker 2: YouTube is starting to become a big enough thing for
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: me that I get to focus on it wholeheartedly. So
[1:12:33] Speaker 2: if people want to check that out and follow that,
[1:12:35] Speaker 2: that really helps me, but just fall in love with wildlife.
[1:12:38] Speaker 4: That's all I care about.
[1:12:39] Speaker 1: All right.
[1:12:41] Speaker 3: Since we're being forced to shut down, Forrest Galante, ladies
[1:12:44] Speaker 3: and gentlemen, go follow him. Go subscribe to his YouTube,
[1:12:46] Speaker 3: watch his videos, like him, drop comments in the comment section,
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: and go pet a dog, or if you're in a
[1:12:52] Speaker 3: certain place, a seal. And we'll see you on next
[1:12:55] Speaker 3: week's episode. Thanks so much for watching, listening, viewing, subscribing
[1:13:00] Speaker 3: to Impulsive. Shout out Fanatics WWE. We'll see you next week. Peace.

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