# Joe Weller On Getting SUPLEXED by Logan Paul, Losing to KSI & Jake Paul, Hooking Up w/ A LadyBoy

An episode of [Impaulsive with Logan Paul](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1442164847), 12 Mar 2025, 1 h 27 min.

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Use code LOGAN10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LOGAN10 *Up to $25 off YouTube pioneer Joe Weller joins the boys to discuss getting suplexed by Logan during the Sidemen Charity Match, hooking up with a ladyboy in the Philippines, KSI kicking his a** in 2018, John Cena turning heel, sparring Jake Paul, Triple H kicking him out of WWE, God changing his life, showing Logan his WWE highlight reel, iShowSpeed taking over the world & more… SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ► https://www.youtube.com/impaulsive Thank you Celebro Studios for hosting us! Watch Previous (How Jesse Itzler Survived Living w/ David Goggins & Pulled a Billionaire Wife By Eating Fruit) ► https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsVnVhoG8OA&list=PLxVI_4gawWf_n3DjriKRvWduJ8H_eOg5E ADD US ON: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/impaulsiveshow/ Timestamps: 0:00 Welcome Joe Weller! 💥 0:58 Logan Paul ROASTS Drew McIntyre! 😳 3:27 KSI Calling Out Joe Weller! 😡 6:17 Jake Paul Vs “Crackhead” KSI 🥊 9:55 When Joe Boxed Jake Paul..🤕 11:19 KSI Vs Joe Weller Fight (What Went WRONG) 👊 15:08 Logan Paul Vs KSI (& Starting PRIME) 💦 22:48 Hooking Up With A LADYBOY 🍆 30:57 Benefits of SOLO Traveling ✈️ 39:08 Logan’s Life Advice To Joe Weller 🤝🏼 44:02 Does Joe Weller Believe In God?! ✝️ 48:14 Why P*rn & Social Media Is BAD For You! 🍑 1:01:09 Triple H KICKED OUT Joe Weller From WWE! 😱 1:05:29 Logan Nearly K*lled Rey Mysterio..🤯 1:06:34 Logan Paul Exposes WWE Ring Secrets…🙊 1:12:03 Joe Shows Logan His WWE Moves! 😨 1:13:47 Logan “Bothered” By Being A Heel..😤 1:15:52 Logan Paul Calls John Cena A “SNAKE!” 🐍 1:19:32 iShowSpeed to WWE Full-Time?! 💨 1:23:39 Sidemen Charity Match *Celebration!* ⚽️ PLEASE NOTE Impaulsive is a significant break from the typical content viewers have come to expect from the vlog channel & we could not be more proud and excited to watch this unfold and grow. Please be advised that we will be exploring a wide variety of topics (some adult-themed) and our younger viewers (and their parents) should be advised that some topics will be for mature audiences only. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, it's Joe Weller. You created Influencer Boxing.
[0:04] Speaker 2: We started.
[0:05] Speaker 3: It was just in a gym.
[0:06] Speaker 2: We owe you a thank you.
[0:07] Speaker 4: How about a.
[0:08] Speaker 2: Couple million dollars?
[0:09] Speaker 3: How about that?
[0:10] Speaker 2: What happened when you fought KSI, bro?
[0:11] Speaker 3: What the f * * *? KSI doesn't fight like
[0:13] Speaker 3: a fighter. He's a f * * * ing crackhead.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Now you can ask me the same question. Yeah, bro.
[0:17] Speaker 3: So I went to a WrestleMania. F * * *
[0:18] Speaker 3: ing Triple H kicked me out.
[0:20] Speaker 4: What?
[0:20] Speaker 3: He was like, he's this f * * * ing YouTuber.
[0:22] Speaker 4: Oh.
[0:22] Speaker 2: Oh my god.
[0:23] Speaker 3: I'm playing at f * * * ing Wembley Stadium
[0:25] Speaker 3: on Saturday.
[0:25] Speaker 2: You're on my team.
[0:26] Speaker 3: We should do like a celebration. If we score, you
[0:29] Speaker 3: can f * * * ing suplex me onto the pitch.
[0:30] Speaker 2: That's such a good idea.
[0:32] Speaker 3: I was dead set against the idea of going to
[0:34] Speaker 3: like a dodgy massage parlour. Anyways, there I am in Phuket, Thailand.
[0:38] Speaker 3: I was convinced that this was a femur. I made
[0:40] Speaker 3: the ultimate error.
[0:51] Speaker 4: Konnichiwa.
[0:53] Speaker 3: You guys just getting today?
[0:54] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[0:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, today, bro. Pretty wild, huh?
[0:58] Speaker 3: And how many other pods have you done today?
[1:00] Speaker 4: Just one.
[1:00] Speaker 3: Just one.
[1:01] Speaker 2: Aspinall.
[1:02] Speaker 3: Thomas Aspinall. UFC fighter, right?
[1:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:05] Speaker 2: Sick.
[1:05] Speaker 3: Are you familiar? So he was meant to come on
[1:07] Speaker 3: my podcast, but didn't in the end.
[1:10] Speaker 2: I'm not sure why.
[1:11] Speaker 3: But we got Drew McIntyre on instead.
[1:13] Speaker 4: Oh, sick.
[1:13] Speaker 2: So that's coming up. Also a huge guy. It's not
[1:16] Speaker 2: out yet?
[1:16] Speaker 3: No, no, no. Not out yet.
[1:18] Speaker 2: How was he in person?
[1:19] Speaker 3: We haven't done it yet. When you guys come to
[1:23] Speaker 3: do Raw in London, that's when we're doing it.
[1:25] Speaker 2: No way. Interesting.
[1:29] Speaker 1: I never took him as anyone who actually could speak
[1:32] Speaker 1: sentences in full, complete length.
[1:34] Speaker 3: Really? Do you actually get familiar with all the guys
[1:36] Speaker 3: behind the scene? Do you actually get to know them?
[1:38] Speaker 4: No.
[1:40] Speaker 2: No. No.
[1:41] Speaker 3: Wait, what is it like you just get out there
[1:44] Speaker 3: and just do it and you actually don't actually know
[1:46] Speaker 3: if you can trust this person?
[1:49] Speaker 4: It's like some of them you become friends with.
[1:52] Speaker 1: Okay, so at the end of the day, you put
[1:55] Speaker 1: a bunch of like human, it's like school. It's basically
[1:58] Speaker 1: like school, right? And in school you have like your
[1:59] Speaker 1: cliques and some people you don't really get along with
[2:02] Speaker 1: and some people you really get along with. Like some
[2:04] Speaker 1: of the guys backstage like Stu, the cameraman, the CEO
[2:08] Speaker 1: of Camera 4, I think.
[2:09] Speaker 2: Six, camera six. Bro, like, me and this guy just butt.
[2:12] Speaker 4: Heads, bro.
[2:14] Speaker 3: Wait, is that not the one that John Cena really likes?
[2:15] Speaker 4: Yes, yes, him.
[2:17] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:17] Speaker 2: Yes, fucking Stu, bro. He assaulted me.
[2:21] Speaker 4: He hit me.
[2:21] Speaker 2: He hits me. Well, he hit me once, but I'm
[2:23] Speaker 2: sure he'll do it again. And I'm collecting evidence, bro.
[2:26] Speaker 1: But, dude, enough about my bullshit.
[2:29] Speaker 2: Well, it's not bullshit. WWE is the greatest job ever. Thanks.
[2:34] Speaker 2: Please don't fire me. Joe. Yes. Dude. I am so
[2:39] Speaker 2: happy you're here.
[2:40] Speaker 4: Me too, bro.
[2:41] Speaker 3: I listened to this show. I'm a fan. I've followed
[2:44] Speaker 3: your whole career.
[2:44] Speaker 2: Fucking live for this show. Live for this. I love it.
[2:48] Speaker 2: We are excited to have you.
[2:50] Speaker 4: And we're fans, too.
[2:51] Speaker 2: Huge fans, dude.
[2:52] Speaker 4: I mentioned to him a couple minutes ago, it's like, Bro,
[2:55] Speaker 4: you're the architect, all this shit.
[2:57] Speaker 5: Think about how many podcast hours, hours of viewing time
[3:02] Speaker 5: on Tyson versus Jake Paul, Logan pool, Jake pool, any
[3:05] Speaker 5: of the pools all the way back.
[3:07] Speaker 4: We're talking about fucking years. Could any of this evolution
[3:12] Speaker 4: of YouTube and creator, could any of it have happened
[3:15] Speaker 4: without Weller?
[3:16] Speaker 2: No, no, I don't think so. So I'm going to
[3:18] Speaker 2: do it. I need a proper little.
[3:19] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sorry.
[3:20] Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, it's Joe Weller. Let's go.
[3:25] Speaker 3: Let's go.
[3:27] Speaker 1: Some people are saying you're the founder of Influencer Boxing.
[3:29] Speaker 1: You created Influencer Boxing.
[3:32] Speaker 3: That is fucking mental, isn't it? Like, the fact that,
[3:36] Speaker 3: I mean, seeing where it is, bro, like... We started,
[3:39] Speaker 3: it was just in a gym, right? It was just
[3:41] Speaker 3: in a gym. Me and my friend, have you seen it? Malfoy?
[3:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Theo Baker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[3:46] Speaker 3: We called him Malfoy. It was meant to just be
[3:47] Speaker 3: like a one-off off the back of McGregor Mayweather, right?
[3:50] Speaker 3: We saw what they did and, you know, obviously it
[3:52] Speaker 3: was popping at the time. So we were like, yeah,
[3:54] Speaker 3: of course. Yeah, let's do a YouTube video. No one
[3:56] Speaker 3: else is doing that shit. Let's go. And then when
[3:58] Speaker 3: JJ commented, I was like, boom, this could be something
[4:01] Speaker 3: fucking massive. We're not going to do a video. Let's
[4:03] Speaker 3: do an arena. Let's do an arena. And he tried
[4:06] Speaker 3: to obviously like not, he wanted to like not do that.
[4:08] Speaker 3: He wanted to fight like road to shore, Harry from
[4:10] Speaker 3: the sidelines. And I just knuckled down and just like,
[4:14] Speaker 3: I did not let him get away with it. And yeah,
[4:16] Speaker 3: I just thought it could be something massive, but I
[4:18] Speaker 3: did not think it would go where it's gone for sure.
[4:20] Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it's gone ape shit, dude. Like we,
[4:22] Speaker 2: we owe, we owe you a thank you.
[4:24] Speaker 4: How about a couple of million dollars?
[4:26] Speaker 3: How about that?
[4:28] Speaker 2: Do you feel like you deserve a royalty check? Yes.
[4:30] Speaker 2: I mean, I wish I put, like, a little, like,
[4:32] Speaker 2: at least a little 2%.
[4:33] Speaker 3: Like, just anything that's off the back of this in
[4:36] Speaker 3: the YouTube world, imagine.
[4:38] Speaker 4: Man, 2% would be a lot. You would have a
[4:40] Speaker 4: lot of money. Bro, this is churned out. millions and
[4:44] Speaker 4: millions and millions of dollars in in pay-per-views and sponsorships
[4:49] Speaker 4: in career growth for individuals for logan for jake for
[4:53] Speaker 4: ksi for so many people and continues to even spin
[4:56] Speaker 4: off now i mean you see it moving into the
[4:57] Speaker 4: streaming world what aiden's doing with brand risk and all
[5:00] Speaker 4: of these different things it's absolutely insane to imagine that
[5:04] Speaker 4: five or six what probably six years ago maybe this
[5:07] Speaker 4: didn't exist.
[5:08] Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah it's wild and i can't like obviously
[5:11] Speaker 3: some people's Some people shit on it. Obviously, it's understandable. Obviously,
[5:16] Speaker 3: people that work so hard to be a boxer, and
[5:18] Speaker 3: then you've got YouTubers come along, and ultimately, it does
[5:21] Speaker 3: come about who can sell tickets and who can sell pay-per-views.
[5:24] Speaker 3: Many industries are like that, but I can see why
[5:28] Speaker 3: it would annoy the people that have dedicated their whole life.
[5:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. It's insulting.
[5:34] Speaker 1: We just come along, and some of us look like
[5:36] Speaker 1: idiots fighting out there, and yet we're getting more people
[5:40] Speaker 1: to tune in than people who have spent their whole
[5:42] Speaker 1: lives training.
[5:43] Speaker 2: For this thing.
[5:44] Speaker 1: Are you someone who follows the sport more for the
[5:46] Speaker 1: entertainment aspect of it, like a YouTuber brings? Or are
[5:49] Speaker 1: you watching for the pugilistic boxing technique?
[5:52] Speaker 3: Since doing my fight, and honestly not knowing how to box,
[5:57] Speaker 3: it made me get so into the actual sport to
[6:00] Speaker 3: want to actually see how these guys manage to do it.
[6:02] Speaker 3: When I got out there, brother, and I absolutely froze
[6:04] Speaker 3: and I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
[6:06] Speaker 3: I was like, how? I could not see how these
[6:09] Speaker 3: guys get out there and do what they do and
[6:10] Speaker 3: just stay so composed and deliver. So I just, I
[6:13] Speaker 3: fell in love with the sport after that. And just, yeah, man,
[6:15] Speaker 3: I've been a huge fan ever since, but I don't
[6:17] Speaker 3: really watch the influencer stuff, if I'm honest.
[6:21] Speaker 4: The big ones you watch.
[6:22] Speaker 3: Well, of course, if it's Jake. I don't watch too
[6:25] Speaker 3: much like Misfits.
[6:27] Speaker 4: Do you still, do you consider Jake Paul to be
[6:30] Speaker 4: an influencer boxer right now?
[6:34] Speaker 3: Kind of no. Kind of no, because he's not fighting influencers. Yeah,
[6:40] Speaker 3: he's not fighting, like, prime boxers, but he's not fighting influencers.
[6:43] Speaker 3: It's not just a circus, right? To an extent, the
[6:46] Speaker 3: Tyson thing maybe was, but, like, yeah, I wouldn't class
[6:50] Speaker 3: Jake Paul as just an influencer boxer, no.
[6:52] Speaker 4: Do you consider KSI to be an influencer boxer?
[6:55] Speaker 2: Yes.
[6:56] Speaker 4: Wow.
[6:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. And I think that is an issue
[7:00] Speaker 3: between that fight happening. Like, both guys, like, low-key... They'll
[7:05] Speaker 3: both have insecurities, I think, where they're not 100% sure.
[7:09] Speaker 3: Like Jake's going against boxers, like people that do fighting.
[7:12] Speaker 3: KSI doesn't fight like a fighter. He's a fucking crackhead.
[7:15] Speaker 4: Straight up, bruv.
[7:17] Speaker 3: That geezer gets in a ring and you're literally like,
[7:18] Speaker 3: I'm not standing across from a geezer, he's a monster.
[7:21] Speaker 3: And I think there's an element like, Jake's like, I
[7:23] Speaker 3: don't know what this guy's going to do to me.
[7:24] Speaker 3: And then JJ, I think, will be thinking like, well, shit,
[7:27] Speaker 3: Jake's going against, he is going against fighters. He has
[7:29] Speaker 3: been doing this like more seriously than me, you know?
[7:33] Speaker 3: maybe he is better. And I feel like both guys
[7:35] Speaker 3: don't want to give anything away because there is the unknown,
[7:38] Speaker 3: but fucking make it happen guys.
[7:40] Speaker 2: That's good. Come on.
[7:41] Speaker 4: Well, you saw, you saw what happened the first time
[7:44] Speaker 4: that those two styles clash, obviously in, you know, Logan
[7:48] Speaker 4: and JJ, right. And not, not to say that, you know,
[7:53] Speaker 4: Jake is clearly a better boxer than, Oh, shit. You
[7:58] Speaker 4: know what? Fuck that. Jake is clearly a better boxer
[8:01] Speaker 4: than Logan. He has devoted his life to it. Logan
[8:04] Speaker 4: would moonsault, frog splash, double backhand him off of a rope.
[8:08] Speaker 4: We get it. You guys both went in different directions.
[8:11] Speaker 4: Jake has devoted his life to boxing. Similarly to Logan, though,
[8:16] Speaker 4: his move is his power. His sheer power. And you
[8:22] Speaker 4: saw JJ being capable of beating down that power with
[8:27] Speaker 4: that strange crackhead brawling tactic. And so it is a
[8:30] Speaker 4: very interesting thing. Now, that said, Jake has fought UFC fighters.
[8:34] Speaker 4: He's fought people with unorthodox and unconventional fighting styles, and
[8:37] Speaker 4: he's won those fights.
[8:39] Speaker 2: Look, I'm working on it, Joe. I'm working on it.
[8:40] Speaker 1: I'm trying so hard. There's a weight problem at the moment.
[8:45] Speaker 4: Who's fat?
[8:46] Speaker 2: Jake's technically the fat guy.
[8:49] Speaker 3: JJ's put on so much weight, though.
[8:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, but he fights lighter than they're... Bro, it's a disaster.
[8:55] Speaker 3: Is Jake doing that intentionally? As his brother, do you
[8:57] Speaker 3: know if he's going, if I just go so heavy
[8:59] Speaker 3: that JJ... There's no way he's purposely staying fat.
[9:02] Speaker 1: No, he genuinely believes that he's kind of above the
[9:06] Speaker 1: influencer boxing, and he, like you, classifies KSI as still
[9:10] Speaker 1: an influencer boxer.
[9:11] Speaker 3: So he won't fight him for that reason, even though
[9:13] Speaker 3: that's the fight that everyone actually wants?
[9:16] Speaker 1: That is partially correct. He won't go down to a
[9:19] Speaker 1: weight where he's genuinely uncomfortable... just to satisfy like a
[9:23] Speaker 1: youtube audience because like dude like you know he just
[9:26] Speaker 1: had one of the biggest viewed sporting events in history
[9:29] Speaker 1: like his head is just elsewhere.
[9:31] Speaker 3: But do you not think like looking at him fighting
[9:33] Speaker 3: at that heavy weight like surely he's not that's not
[9:35] Speaker 3: his actual like ideal weight.
[9:37] Speaker 1: To fight at i told him i said i said
[9:39] Speaker 1: because he he won't go to 190 the weight was
[9:41] Speaker 1: i think 192 and a half that he was comfortable
[9:43] Speaker 1: with and i said i said bro That means you understand,
[9:48] Speaker 1: you can never fight at 190, no matter what, anyone, ever.
[9:51] Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, I'm never going that low again.
[9:54] Speaker 2: He's a he's big now He's bigger dude.
[9:57] Speaker 1: He's a thick fucking tattooed horizontally grows.
[10:00] Speaker 4: He grows like this.
[10:03] Speaker 3: When I spawned him obviously went to his house I
[10:04] Speaker 3: was surprised how dense he was like as in just
[10:11] Speaker 3: thick fucking light.
[10:12] Speaker 2: Yeah Really you were to hit him like last.
[10:14] Speaker 3: Year And he's not taking any like steroids, is he?
[10:20] Speaker 2: No, no, no. I mean, he gets tested and it's
[10:25] Speaker 2: always negative.
[10:25] Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like, you know, 10, 11
[10:28] Speaker 1: fights in, you'd probably get caught at this point.
[10:30] Speaker 3: I mean, I, the way boxes seem to always come out,
[10:32] Speaker 3: like someone else is always getting found out. I'm like,
[10:36] Speaker 3: is everyone just secretly on it? Like if you've got
[10:39] Speaker 3: fucking millions of dollars, surely you can invest that in
[10:41] Speaker 3: covering it up.
[10:43] Speaker 4: No, I don't.
[10:45] Speaker 1: I would lean on WADA and VADA to do their job.
[10:50] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[10:50] Speaker 2: What? Sounds. WADA and VADA?
[10:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, just ridiculous sounds.
[10:56] Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't know. What testing pool is
[11:03] Speaker 1: Conor in?
[11:04] Speaker 2: USADA?
[11:05] Speaker 3: Conor Benn or Conor McGregor? Conor McGregor.
[11:08] Speaker 4: I think it's USADA.
[11:08] Speaker 1: UFC left USADA recently.
[11:13] Speaker 2: Oh they did leave Zara so I yeah I don't
[11:15] Speaker 2: know but um.
[11:17] Speaker 1: Regardless yeah what happened when you fought KSI bro what
[11:21] Speaker 1: the fuck because dude like I'll be honest with you
[11:24] Speaker 1: I was certain you were gonna win like I very
[11:28] Speaker 1: naive of me to just like assume but you're like
[11:30] Speaker 1: you had like the muscles and stuff and at the
[11:32] Speaker 1: time he was like on the chubbier side still like
[11:34] Speaker 1: the FIFA gamer and then I think there was like
[11:37] Speaker 1: a shove there's a there's a shove at an event
[11:40] Speaker 1: and I was really into it and then show what happened.
[11:42] Speaker 3: Out there bro so like at that point of the
[11:45] Speaker 3: press conference when that shove was happening like i was
[11:48] Speaker 3: in my absolute prime like literally like i hadn't done
[11:52] Speaker 3: any boxing training and by prime i mean like mentally
[11:55] Speaker 3: i was just like i am fucking unstoppable like i
[11:58] Speaker 3: was standing in his crowd this was his show and
[12:00] Speaker 3: i was like i'm gonna fucking dominate you i don't
[12:01] Speaker 3: give a fuck and i was just on it and
[12:03] Speaker 3: it was like i did the boxing training with arguably
[12:07] Speaker 3: like one person was my mom's personal trainer and the
[12:10] Speaker 3: other was like someone that, you know, may or may
[12:13] Speaker 3: not have sold narcotics in the area. And, you know,
[12:17] Speaker 3: not necessarily like the most professional boxing coaches. And I
[12:20] Speaker 3: think just like I trained for 10 months and it
[12:22] Speaker 3: just fucking wore me down, took all my confidence, didn't
[12:26] Speaker 3: have any belief in my ability. And I just got
[12:27] Speaker 3: to fight night. Like I cannot wait for this to
[12:29] Speaker 3: be over. I have no fucking clue what I'm doing.
[12:32] Speaker 3: I was just brawling every day and sparring, not learning anything.
[12:36] Speaker 3: I didn't know how to punch. I didn't, I didn't
[12:37] Speaker 3: know anything really. I'm just fighting every day in the
[12:40] Speaker 3: gym and, it got to fight night and it just
[12:41] Speaker 3: fucking showed bro. Like I got there and I was
[12:44] Speaker 3: just like a deer in headlights.
[12:45] Speaker 2: Why did you not set yourself up for success more?
[12:48] Speaker 3: I thought, I thought I was, and I, I clearly
[12:51] Speaker 3: just got it so wrong. Like I was like, I'm
[12:52] Speaker 3: going to trust these people. These people clearly like they
[12:55] Speaker 3: work in boxing. I don't. And I just got the
[12:57] Speaker 3: wrong fucking guys.
[12:58] Speaker 4: I'll be real.
[12:59] Speaker 3: Um, I take responsibility for myself. Like I, you know,
[13:01] Speaker 3: regardless of the training, I should have still been able
[13:03] Speaker 3: to turn up on fight night, fucking throw a punch
[13:05] Speaker 3: at least. Do you know what I mean? I didn't
[13:07] Speaker 3: do any of that. And it's, you know, it haunted
[13:09] Speaker 3: me for years, bro. Like, It was the worst night
[13:12] Speaker 3: of my life by far.
[13:14] Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Now you can ask me the same question.
[13:17] Speaker 3: Because the thing is, I wouldn't say it was too
[13:20] Speaker 3: much to do with anything that he did. It was
[13:22] Speaker 3: more of like I was defeated before I even turned up.
[13:25] Speaker 3: Now was the same with you? Or would you say that.
[13:27] Speaker 4: He got into you? He used the same shit.
[13:30] Speaker 2: I woke up, I sneezed three times.
[13:32] Speaker 4: Three times. That's why it's three times.
[13:34] Speaker 6: Fuck.
[13:35] Speaker 3: Should I tell you something that I feel affected me
[13:37] Speaker 3: as well? I had a big wank the night before.
[13:40] Speaker 3: And I actually think that takes it.
[13:41] Speaker 2: Out of your system. It does, hell yeah.
[13:43] Speaker 4: It does. Can you put me in this situation really quickly? Well,
[13:48] Speaker 4: you're locked in. It's the night before fight night.
[13:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't get to sleep. You know what knocks
[13:54] Speaker 2: you out? You know what sends you to sleep? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[13:57] Speaker 3: That's what.
[13:58] Speaker 2: I was just trying to get to sleep. That is
[14:01] Speaker 2: a crazy... I was just trying to get to sleep
[14:02] Speaker 2: and it just fucking.
[14:05] Speaker 1: It takes your legs out. You're not supposed to release,
[14:08] Speaker 1: they say. Unless you live in a barn, you know
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[15:06] Speaker 1: geek back to the show my coach called it building
[15:09] Speaker 1: your batch.
[15:09] Speaker 2: Right before the wet dream didn't you.
[15:11] Speaker 1: Bro because it the batch building backfired. I couldn't believe it.
[15:15] Speaker 1: I'm like, I had it nutted 30 days. I'm three
[15:18] Speaker 1: days out from the fight, bro.
[15:20] Speaker 2: Wild dream. Next thing you know, I was just, I mean, dude,
[15:24] Speaker 2: it was horrible.
[15:26] Speaker 1: I'm like, first off, I'm like 22 and I'm having
[15:29] Speaker 1: a full on wet dream.
[15:31] Speaker 2: It was, yeah.
[15:32] Speaker 1: Mine, mine, mine was completely Jack Reese's fault. I'll be
[15:36] Speaker 1: honest with you. The referee who took away two points.
[15:38] Speaker 3: Cause I was commentating your fight. I was ringside sky sports.
[15:42] Speaker 3: And I remember that happening and everyone, all of even
[15:45] Speaker 3: like the legit commentators that have watched this for years
[15:48] Speaker 3: were like, we cannot believe what we're seeing. Like that
[15:50] Speaker 3: was just wrong. I don't know why he did that.
[15:53] Speaker 2: I'll tell you why.
[15:54] Speaker 6: Why?
[15:54] Speaker 2: Because God had a plan for me.
[15:57] Speaker 3: You reckon? You reckon?
[16:01] Speaker 2: I think so.
[16:02] Speaker 1: That night, I remember I lost by that one point.
[16:05] Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't feel defeated. I was like,
[16:07] Speaker 1: that was weird.
[16:09] Speaker 2: That just feels weird. Like I didn't have a good
[16:12] Speaker 2: day either. I kind of turned up a little sick.
[16:15] Speaker 1: We joke about the three times thing, but just under
[16:17] Speaker 1: the weather, not really feeling myself that day.
[16:19] Speaker 2: Kind of like half-assed my way through the fight. Got
[16:21] Speaker 2: an uppercut. I don't know.
[16:24] Speaker 1: And I didn't, I just felt like, I knew something
[16:28] Speaker 1: was going to come out of it. But do you
[16:30] Speaker 1: think like, and I guess it was Prime, which now
[16:35] Speaker 1: is my baby and I love it. I'm so blessed
[16:37] Speaker 1: to be a part of this company. Do you think
[16:39] Speaker 1: if you had beaten KSI Do you think me and
[16:42] Speaker 1: you would have started Prime?
[16:45] Speaker 3: Bro, imagine. I wouldn't be surprised. You know why? Because
[16:49] Speaker 3: we're both into wrestling. And I feel like there would
[16:51] Speaker 3: have been an element if we go to... I was
[16:53] Speaker 3: popping the wrestling videos. And it's like... Now you in
[16:57] Speaker 3: WWE if we went in tag team champions like you
[17:00] Speaker 3: never know I.
[17:03] Speaker 4: Know I'm gonna be honest that shit would have failed dude.
[17:05] Speaker 4: Why 100% why I don't know dude It just wouldn't.
[17:08] Speaker 3: Have worked because I'm not black nuts.
[17:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's partially because of that it's partially because of
[17:13] Speaker 4: the interracial mix, but it's also just because I Don't know.
[17:18] Speaker 4: I have no rationale for whatsoever. Yeah, I just don't
[17:20] Speaker 4: it's not you. I it's you too that would have
[17:24] Speaker 4: failed miserably, like a crashing rocket ship. You know what
[17:27] Speaker 4: I'm saying?
[17:27] Speaker 2: I think he's right.
[17:28] Speaker 1: I was telling the boys this the other day.
[17:32] Speaker 2: Sorry, bro. We can start a different company.
[17:33] Speaker 4: That's okay, bro.
[17:34] Speaker 2: Wrestling related? Like wrestling headgear or something?
[17:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, some shit.
[17:39] Speaker 2: I was telling the boys this the other day.
[17:44] Speaker 1: Occasionally in life, you get lucky enough with something where
[17:47] Speaker 1: it seems that everything makes a lot of sense.
[17:49] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[17:51] Speaker 2: It hasn't happened a lot for me.
[17:52] Speaker 4: Lightning in a bottle, you call it.
[17:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, basically.
[17:55] Speaker 1: And again, with that KSI loss, I was like, that
[17:58] Speaker 1: feels weird. I'm just going to sit and see if
[18:01] Speaker 1: this is like good or bad. Then this came out
[18:04] Speaker 1: and it was something where I felt everything went perfect
[18:11] Speaker 1: in a way that I was so unfamiliar with because
[18:13] Speaker 1: all the like turbulence in my life. And then I'm
[18:16] Speaker 1: seeing the numbers and even bro, the name prime, like
[18:19] Speaker 1: in your prime, I'm like primed up. Like it just,
[18:23] Speaker 1: everything was so perfect. And I did feel like God had,
[18:27] Speaker 1: had a greater plan for me in mind.
[18:29] Speaker 3: And I do believe that, you know, we, we often
[18:33] Speaker 3: get success or we get the results of something at
[18:36] Speaker 3: a far different point at which we're expecting it. So
[18:38] Speaker 3: you may think put in this work here, get result there, but,
[18:42] Speaker 3: In reality, like you say, you may have got that loss,
[18:45] Speaker 3: but that was actually the fuel that has created something
[18:47] Speaker 3: far bigger later down the line. I think a lot
[18:49] Speaker 3: of people give up and think, I've had a failure.
[18:52] Speaker 3: That's it. End the road. When really, if you keep going,
[18:55] Speaker 3: that may be just the start of something that's going
[18:57] Speaker 3: to come far bigger. And that's a prime example, literally.
[19:01] Speaker 2: I'm so blessed for it. To reciprocate that.
[19:04] Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have had anything like that
[19:07] Speaker 1: happen from like a low point or something like that
[19:10] Speaker 1: in your life?
[19:10] Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely think going through the turbulence of
[19:15] Speaker 3: the whole, like fighting stuff, like that obviously knocked me
[19:18] Speaker 3: to the ground, but in terms of like building myself
[19:21] Speaker 3: up to be a better human being to reestablish all
[19:25] Speaker 3: the relationships that I've now had to within the, within
[19:28] Speaker 3: the YouTube space and in my career, like that, Without
[19:31] Speaker 3: the loss and without going through everything and getting humbled
[19:34] Speaker 3: in the way that I did, I believe I would
[19:35] Speaker 3: have gone down a path of thinking I'm unstoppable. I'm
[19:39] Speaker 3: bigger and better than everyone. I definitely have narcissistic tendencies.
[19:42] Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, like getting humbled, I'd say, is
[19:45] Speaker 3: the biggest way to actually learn. And I think, yeah,
[19:48] Speaker 3: that's what I'd say more than anything. But I wouldn't
[19:50] Speaker 3: say there's a direct, like, I've created this product.
[19:53] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[19:54] Speaker 1: I shouldn't have, like, tail-ended that question comparing it to Prime.
[19:57] Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, yeah, any, like, personal improvements or
[20:00] Speaker 1: something where, because, like, like you kind of mentioned, whenever
[20:04] Speaker 1: I'm in a valley, and I feel like, It always
[20:08] Speaker 1: seems to happen this way. The momentum is either really
[20:11] Speaker 1: in your favor or not.
[20:12] Speaker 2: When it rains, it pours.
[20:14] Speaker 1: Certainly feels like that in my life. I know it
[20:16] Speaker 1: does for you as well. Just weird how it happens. Man,
[20:21] Speaker 1: I always just try to remember that there's a light
[20:25] Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel. And every time I
[20:28] Speaker 1: do make it out of the tunnel and I'm trudging
[20:30] Speaker 1: through the mud and it's dark.
[20:31] Speaker 2: When I get to the end and I made it out,
[20:34] Speaker 2: I feel so much stronger of a human.
[20:37] Speaker 3: Bro, I think when you're going through that shit, it's
[20:40] Speaker 3: overcoming that that actually builds you. So for me, even
[20:44] Speaker 3: if it's sleepless nights, I've gone through periods of just
[20:46] Speaker 3: having pure insomnia.
[20:47] Speaker 4: It potentially is the worst thing ever. People talk about diet, gyms,
[20:52] Speaker 4: this and that. Not sleep, like even today, like I
[20:55] Speaker 4: texted him today and said to him like, yo, I
[20:58] Speaker 4: didn't sleep on the plane. We land, we got to
[21:00] Speaker 4: get right to work. I'm like, you know, now 36
[21:02] Speaker 4: hours in, no sleep or even longer than that. It's like,
[21:05] Speaker 4: that is the worst thing. That is worse than anything else.
[21:07] Speaker 3: Being able to turn up and do your job regardless,
[21:10] Speaker 3: that builds character in the mind. It's like, oh, I
[21:12] Speaker 3: had nothing in the tank. I still turned up and
[21:14] Speaker 3: I fucking performed and did a good job. But that's
[21:17] Speaker 3: now giving me more for when I next go into
[21:18] Speaker 3: something and I might be sick. Or something else might
[21:20] Speaker 3: not be ideal. I've like built character, builds confidence. You
[21:23] Speaker 3: don't get confidence from just like things going easy and
[21:25] Speaker 3: getting it right. I had a perfect sleep, turned up,
[21:27] Speaker 3: did a good job.
[21:28] Speaker 2: Obviously.
[21:28] Speaker 3: It's like you get it from when you go through
[21:31] Speaker 3: the mud and you have to overcome shit. You know
[21:32] Speaker 3: what I mean? So I think that's why like I
[21:35] Speaker 3: threw myself into solo traveling. Like I just went, I,
[21:38] Speaker 3: you know, I was a well low point year ago
[21:41] Speaker 3: in the winter and it was like, let me go
[21:43] Speaker 3: to the other side of the world. Let me go
[21:44] Speaker 3: to the Philippines by myself. Just fucking see what happens
[21:47] Speaker 3: and have to like fend for myself. I think that's
[21:49] Speaker 3: why I did like the Amazon rainforest documentary with like
[21:52] Speaker 3: no help is just with indigenous hunters. It's like survive.
[21:56] Speaker 3: And I wonder if the human brain, like we actually
[21:58] Speaker 3: need a level of like obstacles and like things to
[22:01] Speaker 3: overcome in order to actually feel like stimulated in the
[22:03] Speaker 3: right way.
[22:04] Speaker 4: A thousand of, you just hit like three things that
[22:06] Speaker 4: we have to talk about all of them. But the
[22:08] Speaker 4: last thing is very important. Every single thing that I've
[22:12] Speaker 4: ever created in my life, whether it's the book, whether
[22:14] Speaker 4: it's moving and doing this with him or anything, has
[22:17] Speaker 4: all come from a place of desperation. I think there's
[22:19] Speaker 4: different types of people in the world. I think some
[22:21] Speaker 4: people are motivated by inspiration. They're inspired to create something
[22:26] Speaker 4: from an idea that there's an inception of this idea
[22:29] Speaker 4: in their head. Others are fueled by desperation. For me,
[22:32] Speaker 4: when you put my back against the wall and I
[22:33] Speaker 4: start really feeling like shit's closing in on me, that's
[22:37] Speaker 4: when I'm going to go and do something special. And
[22:38] Speaker 4: so I think it depends on the type of person
[22:40] Speaker 4: you are. What type of people did you run into
[22:42] Speaker 4: in the Philippines?
[22:43] Speaker 3: Philippines, bro. Well, I mean, the indigenous people, bro, like,
[22:48] Speaker 3: you know, Filipinos aren't actually like Asian.
[22:50] Speaker 4: Well, you really never know what you're going to get there.
[22:52] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
[22:54] Speaker 2: I got a baby nurse. She's Filipino.
[22:56] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean you never know
[22:57] Speaker 3: what you're going to get? Oh, you're talking about like ladyboys.
[23:00] Speaker 4: Well, you said it, not me. Oh, fuck.
[23:02] Speaker 2: We have a song. Oh, fuck. I have a song
[23:05] Speaker 2: for you. We heard, yeah. Tell me if this song
[23:10] Speaker 2: makes you feel any type of way. Kind of goes hard. Oh, fuck. Yes.
[23:30] Speaker 3: So in Thailand, I made the ultimate error.
[23:40] Speaker 2: We all fucking dread this, Logan.
[23:46] Speaker 4: I know.
[23:46] Speaker 2: I know. I hear about these stories. I'm so happy
[23:49] Speaker 2: I get to hear one right now.
[23:50] Speaker 4: So.
[23:52] Speaker 3: I was dead set against the idea of going to
[23:54] Speaker 3: like a dodgy massage parlor, but like this local soccer player, right?
[24:00] Speaker 3: This local footballer, he was like, mate, just give it
[24:02] Speaker 3: a go. They're really good. They're really professional at what
[24:04] Speaker 3: they do. And like, you know, they're really good fucking
[24:07] Speaker 3: wanking you off. So I was like, oh, but fine.
[24:10] Speaker 3: I'll indulge in the culture. And I went and it
[24:12] Speaker 3: was fantastic. And it was a female and it was fantastic.
[24:16] Speaker 3: And now at this point I'm like, fuck, yeah, I'm
[24:18] Speaker 3: going to go again. I know, I know this, how
[24:20] Speaker 3: it works now. Like, let's go. Anyways, there I am
[24:23] Speaker 3: in Phuket, Thailand. I get roped in thinking, oh, it's
[24:27] Speaker 3: just another female. Oops.
[24:29] Speaker 2: Let me get like, you know, let me just go again.
[24:30] Speaker 3: Fuck it. And yeah, here we go. I check the hands. Logan,
[24:36] Speaker 3: they're small hands. I check the Adam's apple. There's no
[24:39] Speaker 3: Adam's apple. I was convinced that this was a female. Anyways.
[24:47] Speaker 2: When did you realize? Was it too late?
[24:50] Speaker 3: Bro, like.
[24:51] Speaker 2: Was it the calluses?
[24:52] Speaker 3: Bro, I... Damn.
[24:54] Speaker 4: I'm a good man, all right?
[24:57] Speaker 3: But, yeah, I just started, yeah, getting touched in a
[25:00] Speaker 3: certain way. And then they started removing their clothes to
[25:04] Speaker 3: engage in things that maybe are not so professional. And, yeah,
[25:08] Speaker 3: just got a glimpse of this tiny, tiny cock in
[25:12] Speaker 3: this really bushy mound, like bush, tiny cock. And it
[25:16] Speaker 3: was literally like heart drop, what the fuck this is
[25:19] Speaker 3: good i was like this is god going there you
[25:21] Speaker 3: go mate you fucking dirty wanker like what are you
[25:24] Speaker 3: doing and i and it bro it fucked me up
[25:27] Speaker 3: like i i lost all my sex drive for like
[25:29] Speaker 3: six months after that.
[25:30] Speaker 1: Oh my god bro that's that's pretty that's brutal dude
[25:34] Speaker 1: i'm sorry you had to go through that yeah.
[25:36] Speaker 4: So how was he I didn't fuck I didn't fuck
[25:41] Speaker 4: you bro damn so okay wait so this is like
[25:45] Speaker 4: a huge thing there obviously for people who don't know
[25:48] Speaker 4: there's like it's like a majority situation.
[25:51] Speaker 3: Your story isn't uncommon no and that's the thing I
[25:54] Speaker 3: was like I'll never get fucking fooled by that like
[25:56] Speaker 3: you know we think we can tell right but bro
[25:58] Speaker 3: I'm telling you The men and women out there, you
[26:02] Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to tell. You genuinely wouldn't be able
[26:04] Speaker 3: to tell.
[26:04] Speaker 4: I have a close story myself. Yeah? From Los Angeles.
[26:08] Speaker 4: You may know this. Early on, because you can't tell.
[26:11] Speaker 4: You can't fucking tell. Some of these people are incredible
[26:17] Speaker 4: in their witchcraft. I was at a club called Warwick,
[26:21] Speaker 4: and I saw this, you know, large... tittied woman and
[26:25] Speaker 4: at one point in my life that was my thing
[26:27] Speaker 4: dude i was really into like that really fake look
[26:29] Speaker 4: yeah at one point at one point so so anyway
[26:35] Speaker 4: so i see this you know like wilder beast style
[26:39] Speaker 4: human just it was a larger human but you know
[26:42] Speaker 4: girls come in all sizes so you know the big
[26:44] Speaker 4: lips and everything and i we start like dancing and
[26:48] Speaker 4: i'm having a good time and it's you know it's
[26:49] Speaker 4: warwick wednesday and everybody's popping off whatever and I was like,
[26:53] Speaker 4: what's your plan after this? She was like, you want
[26:56] Speaker 4: to come back to my place? And I was like,
[26:58] Speaker 4: what'd you say? And she was like, you want to
[27:00] Speaker 4: come back to my place right down the street? So
[27:01] Speaker 4: I was like, all right. And we started walking down
[27:03] Speaker 4: the street and I started picking up some context clues.
[27:08] Speaker 4: Arms were pretty vascular. Hands were pretty like just Tom
[27:14] Speaker 4: Aspinall's hands.
[27:15] Speaker 3: And what did you do? You went through with it,
[27:17] Speaker 3: didn't you?
[27:18] Speaker 4: No. And then I started looking at the neck and
[27:20] Speaker 4: I started noticing different sounds and things and just different demeanors.
[27:25] Speaker 4: And when we got to enter, there was another girl there.
[27:29] Speaker 4: with us and when we got to the apartment to
[27:31] Speaker 4: go inside I ran and I can't run but I
[27:34] Speaker 4: fucking ran like the wind I took off.
[27:37] Speaker 1: Yes the running as far as I know seems to
[27:39] Speaker 1: be like the solution for all of it like every
[27:41] Speaker 1: story I've heard from the homies cause again this is
[27:44] Speaker 1: a common trap it's like a bear trap out in
[27:46] Speaker 1: the wild you never know what you're gonna step in
[27:48] Speaker 1: it just use your speed.
[27:49] Speaker 4: That's what I did I ran and I heard get
[27:50] Speaker 4: back here and I was like yo what the fuck
[27:55] Speaker 4: I'll catch you.
[27:58] Speaker 2: She did.
[27:58] Speaker 4: She fucking ran me down. She threw a spear into
[28:03] Speaker 4: my back.
[28:04] Speaker 3: You know the amount of geezers that have told me like,
[28:06] Speaker 3: oh yeah, if I was in that situation, probably just
[28:08] Speaker 3: would have gone ahead with it. I'm already in that position.
[28:10] Speaker 3: Fuck it. I might as well just fuck them.
[28:12] Speaker 2: In the ass.
[28:13] Speaker 4: I'm like, sorry, what?
[28:14] Speaker 2: No, I've heard this as well.
[28:16] Speaker 3: So many blokes have come up to me and said, yeah,
[28:17] Speaker 3: I probably just would have gone with it. Like, fuck it.
[28:19] Speaker 1: Well, that's why in this song I just played to you,
[28:21] Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the lyrics. He said,
[28:24] Speaker 1: if I bang a lady boy, am I still straight? it's,
[28:27] Speaker 1: it's a, he's asking an honest question and I don't
[28:30] Speaker 1: know if there's an answer to it, but like, you know,
[28:33] Speaker 1: if you don't, if you find out that they're not
[28:38] Speaker 1: what you thought they were and you don't go through
[28:41] Speaker 1: with it, are you transphobic? Are you a transphobic?
[28:44] Speaker 3: No, mate, you have your preferences, right? But what I
[28:47] Speaker 3: do actually want to ask is like, if you are
[28:50] Speaker 3: under the impression that they are a girl and that's
[28:52] Speaker 3: what you're getting off on, and they're actually a guy,
[28:54] Speaker 3: is it just our perspective and our own minds that
[28:57] Speaker 3: we're getting off on, ever? Like, is it just the
[28:59] Speaker 3: idea of what we're having sex with that we're getting
[29:01] Speaker 3: off on? Because if we.
[29:02] Speaker 2: Well, I think that... Well.
[29:05] Speaker 1: The question lies in, like, what you said, what you're
[29:07] Speaker 1: attracted to. Like, bro, if I'm attracted to women, like,
[29:11] Speaker 1: you know... I hope I'm hooking up with a woman.
[29:13] Speaker 1: If you're under.
[29:14] Speaker 3: The impression that is a female, then that's just your mind.
[29:18] Speaker 4: But 500 episodes is maybe the deepest conversation we've ever.
[29:21] Speaker 2: Had on this show. But eventually you're gonna hit a callus.
[29:24] Speaker 1: And then it's that flip that switched in you. It's like,
[29:27] Speaker 1: what the fuck have I done? Dude, if it's not
[29:30] Speaker 1: for you, you can't force it. And by the way,
[29:33] Speaker 1: I think it's a little fucked up. Feels like some
[29:37] Speaker 1: information that needs to be disclosed on the.
[29:40] Speaker 4: Well, it's probably illegal in some somewhere.
[29:43] Speaker 2: It feels a little.
[29:44] Speaker 3: Hold on.
[29:44] Speaker 4: Let's step back for a second. What is what is
[29:47] Speaker 4: what creates attraction? What creates sexual orientation? Is it like
[29:54] Speaker 4: what things? Like, where does that start? I'm just being
[29:58] Speaker 4: genuinely curious right now. Like, where does that start? Like,
[30:01] Speaker 4: does it start at the knowledge that the other person,
[30:04] Speaker 4: is it their softer demeanor?
[30:06] Speaker 2: So many new ones. Pheromones?
[30:09] Speaker 3: So we have a show in England called Naked Attraction, right?
[30:11] Speaker 3: And they spit facts on, like, what we're actually attracted
[30:14] Speaker 3: to about, like, the opposite sex. And, like, a big
[30:16] Speaker 3: bum to your, like, monkey brain is saying she's really fertile.
[30:20] Speaker 3: So that's why you like a big bum. Big boobs, like,
[30:23] Speaker 3: good for like being a mother a lot of it
[30:25] Speaker 3: is based on being a good mother to your seed
[30:28] Speaker 3: right that's what you're attracted to in like the shapes
[30:30] Speaker 3: of a woman but apparently as well like we give
[30:32] Speaker 3: off sense so like you're like the energy that you're
[30:35] Speaker 3: picking up and whatever it's actually like like when you're
[30:37] Speaker 3: turned on apparently you give off certain things that the
[30:40] Speaker 3: other person of the opposite sex can like sense that
[30:42] Speaker 3: actually turns them on and like.
[30:44] Speaker 4: Pheromones.
[30:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[30:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[30:45] Speaker 3: Like pheromones and your family, like give off pheromones that
[30:48] Speaker 3: actually repulse you. So you wouldn't, you know what I mean?
[30:51] Speaker 3: So that you apparently like feel like that, but there
[30:53] Speaker 3: you go. Wow. So, so fascinating, man.
[30:57] Speaker 2: Did any, any, any experiences like that in the rainforest?
[30:59] Speaker 3: They obviously fuck a lot there, but like, I mean,
[31:02] Speaker 3: I didn't, I didn't see any, any dodgy stuff like
[31:04] Speaker 3: that in the Amazon rainforest.
[31:06] Speaker 1: When you, when you were traveling the world alone, that's
[31:10] Speaker 1: like a pretty bold thing to do it's going to
[31:12] Speaker 1: the rainforest indigenous tribes and stuff.
[31:14] Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah so yeah i was like let me
[31:17] Speaker 3: put myself in way out of my comfort zone like
[31:19] Speaker 3: even like riding like the motorcycles out there and shit
[31:22] Speaker 3: like i've always been scared to do i don't know
[31:24] Speaker 3: if you've ever done any of that shit like going
[31:26] Speaker 3: to like third world countries and just fucking getting involved
[31:29] Speaker 3: with how they operate.
[31:30] Speaker 2: This is why i ask because i've always wanted to
[31:32] Speaker 2: like really badly.
[31:35] Speaker 1: I think like you, it would be like a cool
[31:37] Speaker 1: self-discovery thing. I missed the boat. I got a fucking
[31:40] Speaker 1: family now.
[31:41] Speaker 3: As well, do you think you're too famous?
[31:43] Speaker 1: I didn't want to say that, but it would make
[31:45] Speaker 1: things dramatically more difficult.
[31:47] Speaker 2: And also unsafe.
[31:48] Speaker 4: But you wouldn't be famous in Mogadishu, I don't think.
[31:53] Speaker 3: No, that's why I was sort of like, I'm blessed.
[31:55] Speaker 4: In a way that like- Maybe that's an interesting outcome
[31:58] Speaker 4: for you. Maybe you go to some of these places
[31:59] Speaker 4: where you're actually not famous. And see what it's like
[32:02] Speaker 4: to just be regular Logan Paul.
[32:03] Speaker 2: I mean, well, that's kind of what I'm at. Like,
[32:05] Speaker 2: what was the experience like?
[32:06] Speaker 3: Well, bro, like, yeah, it was, I was normal. And
[32:08] Speaker 3: I think that's what, like, taking a step back from
[32:09] Speaker 3: YouTube and almost, like, not kicking on and getting, like,
[32:12] Speaker 3: even bigger and bigger and bigger. It's allowed me to do, like,
[32:14] Speaker 3: normal shit. And I've actually fucking, like, loved that element. Now,
[32:18] Speaker 3: do you, would you say, obviously, you've got all these different, like, prime, WWE,
[32:21] Speaker 3: all this different stuff. Like, do you ever go, like, nah,
[32:24] Speaker 3: I wish I could do some, like, normal life things
[32:26] Speaker 3: as well? Or are you like, nah, I'm actually not.
[32:29] Speaker 2: I do. I do.
[32:30] Speaker 3: I do.
[32:31] Speaker 2: Like, I play pickleball.
[32:35] Speaker 4: Pickleball.
[32:35] Speaker 3: What is that game that way you.
[32:37] Speaker 2: It's a racket sport.
[32:38] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:39] Speaker 2: Pop it off.
[32:39] Speaker 4: Padel. Padel. Padel. Yeah, I just.
[32:42] Speaker 2: We're getting into it.
[32:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but it's... The answer is yes, I, like,
[32:47] Speaker 1: yearn that from time to time, and I'll crave it.
[32:51] Speaker 2: But I think more for me.
[32:53] Speaker 1: Why I'm intrigued about what you did is, like, the
[32:56] Speaker 1: solitude of doing things, like, alone.
[32:59] Speaker 4: Like, that.
[33:00] Speaker 1: Like, self-discovery is really significant for me. And I feel
[33:04] Speaker 1: like there's no better way to learn more and experience
[33:08] Speaker 1: than travel the fucking world.
[33:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, bro.
[33:10] Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost like you're constantly downloading information. I
[33:12] Speaker 3: was having, like, the whole time I was solo traveling
[33:14] Speaker 3: in the Philippines, I was, like, having flashbacks of my
[33:16] Speaker 3: whole life constantly coming through. And it's almost like lessons
[33:19] Speaker 3: from my whole life just getting put into my head.
[33:21] Speaker 3: I feel... When you're in one place all the time,
[33:23] Speaker 3: you literally go stagnant. And yeah, just like even just
[33:27] Speaker 3: like learning to operate in a place that's not safe.
[33:30] Speaker 3: And yeah, I did like a meditation retreat as well,
[33:33] Speaker 3: like three days just meditating nonstop. And then the day
[33:36] Speaker 3: after did like a massive mushroom shake and got fucking
[33:39] Speaker 3: transported to an actual different universe. Like it's yeah, I
[33:44] Speaker 3: did a lot while solo traveling. But I'd say the
[33:45] Speaker 3: biggest thing is, yeah, like learning to be by yourself
[33:47] Speaker 3: because you're only ever in your own head. So if
[33:50] Speaker 3: you're not at peace in your own head with who
[33:52] Speaker 3: you are, like the outside is always going to seem
[33:54] Speaker 3: like scary, like not comfortable. Like you're always going to
[33:58] Speaker 3: see the worst if you're not at peace with what's
[34:00] Speaker 3: in here, I feel.
[34:01] Speaker 4: Are you at peace with what's in there?
[34:03] Speaker 3: I'd say I, when I got back from traveling, I
[34:06] Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I'm at a point.
[34:07] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[34:08] Speaker 3: But it's almost like new challenges come along that I
[34:09] Speaker 3: feel like always just there's always something new. Like once,
[34:12] Speaker 3: once you feel like, yeah, I'm at peace, it's always,
[34:14] Speaker 3: it always seems like there's a new challenge that comes
[34:15] Speaker 3: along that throws you. And I don't know if it's when,
[34:17] Speaker 3: like when you level up, you're, you almost like become
[34:19] Speaker 3: more aware to new things that maybe challenge you in
[34:23] Speaker 3: new ways, but I'm working on it. I'm learning. I'm
[34:26] Speaker 3: definitely not completely at peace though.
[34:28] Speaker 2: I'd say.
[34:29] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[34:29] Speaker 4: I think, um, I think a lot of us have
[34:32] Speaker 4: abandoned simplicity so much and gone after just so much
[34:36] Speaker 4: in life. And I, and I also think that for
[34:38] Speaker 4: some people, um, that internal piece uh comes a lot
[34:42] Speaker 4: easier than for other people like like for me personally
[34:45] Speaker 4: it's a 24 7 job like it actually is a
[34:48] Speaker 4: job you know it's i i've said it before on
[34:50] Speaker 4: the show i'm like if i don't show up for
[34:51] Speaker 4: that job i might not show up for this one
[34:53] Speaker 4: like honestly you know and i and i say that
[34:56] Speaker 4: but i still always fucking show up here no matter
[34:58] Speaker 4: what when you when you got done with that traveling
[35:04] Speaker 4: did you feel like a did you feel like a
[35:05] Speaker 4: dopamine dump when you got back to regularity because like
[35:09] Speaker 4: i i do those long travels too i did like
[35:12] Speaker 4: 140 flights last year constantly on the road and a
[35:16] Speaker 4: lot of times when i get back to like my
[35:17] Speaker 4: safe spot my house like i feel.
[35:20] Speaker 3: Depressed yeah i mean 100 i feel like the convenience
[35:23] Speaker 3: that we have in our at home life as well
[35:26] Speaker 3: actually fucks your head like being like whilst you're traveling
[35:30] Speaker 3: and well especially like in these more like third world
[35:32] Speaker 3: countries like everything you do is like achieving something so
[35:37] Speaker 3: where like you can't just get in your car you
[35:39] Speaker 3: can't just get in the fridge you can't just like
[35:41] Speaker 3: get on your like nice oven and cook like everything's
[35:44] Speaker 3: like literally at your fingertips at home i feel like
[35:46] Speaker 3: that convenience actually is not good for the brain and
[35:49] Speaker 3: i'd say that's the biggest thing like being out and
[35:51] Speaker 3: about and traveling in those in those areas i'd recommend
[35:54] Speaker 3: solo traveling to anyone you will feel the most at
[35:56] Speaker 3: peace and the most like like you're using your brain
[35:59] Speaker 3: in the most like nourishing way through like through doing that.
[36:03] Speaker 3: And part of me just wishes I could just constantly
[36:05] Speaker 3: live like that.
[36:05] Speaker 4: I mean, you could.
[36:06] Speaker 3: But then you can't have committed, like, I've got a podcast.
[36:09] Speaker 3: I've got my, like, the videos and the business that
[36:11] Speaker 3: I'm growing back at home now. Now that I'm back
[36:13] Speaker 3: in the YouTube scene, it's like everything's in England. Do
[36:16] Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You can't, it's like you, like,
[36:18] Speaker 3: you can't be in the WWE and, like, be in
[36:19] Speaker 3: fucking the Philippines, mate. Do you know what I mean?
[36:21] Speaker 2: No, but I can be in Puerto Rico.
[36:22] Speaker 3: You can be in Puerto Rico.
[36:24] Speaker 4: Puerto Rico.
[36:24] Speaker 3: But, like, yeah, it's like give and take. Like, you can't,
[36:27] Speaker 3: you know, if you want to just live a pure life,
[36:29] Speaker 3: free spirit lifestyle. Like you're not going to be able
[36:32] Speaker 3: to build things.
[36:33] Speaker 4: Well, why can't you like, okay. For me, I've always,
[36:36] Speaker 4: I've noticed that this that there's this Bourdain-sized hole in
[36:40] Speaker 4: the creator community, right? And I think, truthfully, someone that's
[36:44] Speaker 4: really after it right now is a man by the
[36:45] Speaker 4: name of Mash Tag Brady.
[36:48] Speaker 3: He's killing it.
[36:49] Speaker 4: And it's so funny, too, because he came out of nowhere.
[36:53] Speaker 4: He was on TikTok. It was always like, on the
[36:56] Speaker 4: hunt for the UK's best burger, or something like that.
[36:59] Speaker 4: And then out of nowhere, I'm looking, I'm like, dude,
[37:01] Speaker 4: he just keeps going, going. Every Instagram account he opens
[37:03] Speaker 4: has got a million plus. Every video he's putting out
[37:05] Speaker 4: is crushing it, and it's in this exact vein. And
[37:08] Speaker 4: by the way, fuck you, hashtag Brady, because he gave
[37:10] Speaker 4: me a shitty review. Not shitty, but not as good
[37:12] Speaker 4: of a review on my burger as he should have.
[37:15] Speaker 2: What did he say it was?
[37:15] Speaker 4: Like an 8.8 or something like that, which is fine.
[37:18] Speaker 4: But like, I've seen the burgers that he rates above 9. They're,
[37:22] Speaker 4: as you guys would say, shite. They're fucking terrible. They're
[37:25] Speaker 4: like fast food, like nasty fast food burgers. But I
[37:28] Speaker 4: think he's doing a good job of that kind of like,
[37:32] Speaker 4: always on traveling. Like he was with Pirates and... Somalia
[37:37] Speaker 4: and shit like that like he's doing like I think
[37:39] Speaker 4: what it is is like there's some people out there
[37:41] Speaker 4: that are taking real risks yeah he takes.
[37:43] Speaker 3: Real risks I think he is actually like I don't give.
[37:45] Speaker 4: A fuck he does not give a shit about anything.
[37:47] Speaker 3: Embarrassment like you know the thing he will do anything
[37:49] Speaker 3: in public and I feel like he's killing that but
[37:53] Speaker 3: he won't be having like loads of other commitments if
[37:56] Speaker 3: he's able to do that. Do you know what I mean? Like, you,
[37:58] Speaker 3: you know, it's like podcast every week. Like, do you
[38:00] Speaker 3: pre-record like multiple times?
[38:02] Speaker 4: We do, we do like two to, we either do
[38:04] Speaker 4: a two set or a four set.
[38:05] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[38:05] Speaker 4: It's like a four set.
[38:06] Speaker 3: It's like, you can do that, but at the same time, like,
[38:08] Speaker 3: you know, you can't just fuck off for six months.
[38:10] Speaker 3: Like he, like he's doing, like he's driving the whole
[38:12] Speaker 3: length of Africa and just getting in with different, like
[38:15] Speaker 3: local tribes.
[38:16] Speaker 2: I got to show you this guy.
[38:18] Speaker 4: No, he's, he's insane. But, but another thing you can
[38:21] Speaker 4: have too is like, and this is where I'm kind
[38:23] Speaker 4: of at. currently in my career where he was maybe
[38:28] Speaker 4: three years ago because he you started like really doing
[38:30] Speaker 4: content maybe about that same amount of time before we
[38:33] Speaker 4: started the podcast like you really started leaning in what
[38:35] Speaker 4: like 2014 what like just always on content like when
[38:39] Speaker 4: did you start always creating.
[38:41] Speaker 2: Probably when joe weller made his wrestling video.
[38:44] Speaker 4: That's 27 16 no bro that was like 2014, 2015?
[38:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, around that time, yeah.
[38:49] Speaker 4: So the reason I ask is because another thing you
[38:51] Speaker 4: have to sacrifice if you want to go that route,
[38:54] Speaker 4: and you're probably still sacrificing right now, is life as
[38:58] Speaker 4: a real life. Like the life that all of us
[39:01] Speaker 4: have forsaken for so long to be at every podcast,
[39:04] Speaker 4: to be at every event, to be at every YouTube video,
[39:07] Speaker 4: to be in every weird country. Three years ago, probably,
[39:10] Speaker 4: he made a active decision to lean into life, like
[39:15] Speaker 4: to real life. You know what I'm saying? Like, I
[39:17] Speaker 4: want to find a girl. I want to have kids.
[39:18] Speaker 4: I want to do these things.
[39:19] Speaker 3: Well, Logan.
[39:20] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[39:20] Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the thing. Like, to be where you're
[39:23] Speaker 3: at now, like, when I last saw you in Miami, like,
[39:25] Speaker 3: you were smashing content, like, relentlessly and, like, I mean,
[39:29] Speaker 3: it was at a period where, like, you guys had
[39:32] Speaker 3: all sorts of individuals on your, like, private jet from
[39:36] Speaker 3: certain websites. Like, that was wild. Like, to now be
[39:39] Speaker 3: at a point where, like, you're a family man, bro.
[39:41] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[39:41] Speaker 3: Like, I know it's honestly, like, I'm the guest here,
[39:44] Speaker 3: but I'd love to know, like, how has that transition been? Because, like,
[39:47] Speaker 3: I'm literally... I can't imagine what it's like to be
[39:49] Speaker 3: a dad and completely like give up. Like you're no longer,
[39:52] Speaker 3: it's all about you. It's about your family. It's like
[39:55] Speaker 3: almost ultimate love rather than ultimate. Like what's my pleasure?
[39:59] Speaker 3: What can I do for me? Like, what has that
[40:01] Speaker 3: transition been like?
[40:02] Speaker 2: Good question.
[40:03] Speaker 1: Um, man, it's been, it's, it's been probably the most
[40:07] Speaker 1: rewarding pursuit of my life. Like falling in love is
[40:13] Speaker 1: just so beautiful, especially when it's, a love so deep
[40:17] Speaker 1: you can't even describe it. Like, we say to each other, like,
[40:20] Speaker 1: I love you to infinity because there's no, like, really
[40:22] Speaker 1: bounds to the love. Like, you can't put it into words. Like,
[40:26] Speaker 1: I'll find you in the next lifetime and the next
[40:27] Speaker 1: and the next. And, like, that was.
[40:29] Speaker 2: Magical on its own. And then we had, you know,
[40:33] Speaker 2: a daughter and we were both ready.
[40:36] Speaker 1: Like, I was ready at that point in my life
[40:39] Speaker 1: to find someone and start a family. And I've always
[40:43] Speaker 1: had a yearning to do that. I just never thought
[40:46] Speaker 1: it would be possible. Like, I had literally doomed myself
[40:48] Speaker 1: to bachelorhood because I just thought, like, what woman is
[40:53] Speaker 1: going to, like, be okay with me and my lifestyle
[40:56] Speaker 1: and the things I want to do?
[40:57] Speaker 2: Like, I truly feel like I've just scratched the surface.
[41:00] Speaker 1: And so, like, to find someone who challenges me, who
[41:04] Speaker 1: doesn't piss me off, cause problems, is, like, conflict avert, which, like,
[41:10] Speaker 1: historically has not been easy.
[41:11] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[41:13] Speaker 1: I don't want to generalize all women, but in my experience,
[41:19] Speaker 1: it's just a lot of conflict, bro. I don't want
[41:22] Speaker 1: to have to do this when I come home.
[41:26] Speaker 2: I want it to be easy. To be honest, Joe,
[41:29] Speaker 2: it's been incredible.
[41:30] Speaker 1: I achieved the impossible, I think, by doing something that
[41:34] Speaker 1: I never thought would actually happen in my life, but
[41:36] Speaker 1: that I was so ready for in starting a family.
[41:41] Speaker 1: It's been amazing, but I have a woman who really
[41:43] Speaker 1: understands what I want to do and supports me to
[41:46] Speaker 1: the fullest and is a sick soundboard and tries to
[41:49] Speaker 1: keep me a little level-headed here and there.
[41:52] Speaker 2: Man, I'm really blessed, to be honest.
[41:55] Speaker 4: I can't really complain. Joe, life's good at the moment.
[41:59] Speaker 1: But by the way, that comes with a lot of
[42:03] Speaker 1: shit every now and then, bro.
[42:05] Speaker 3: Wait, what do you mean?
[42:06] Speaker 6: Just.
[42:08] Speaker 2: I got a lot of really high highs. I also
[42:11] Speaker 2: have a lot of really low lows.
[42:13] Speaker 4: Yours have been extremely like specific to your life. Do
[42:18] Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying? Like they're not, they're not,
[42:19] Speaker 4: they're not things that anyone, no, no, it's, it's sorry.
[42:22] Speaker 4: I thought you meant we're talking about at relationships in general.
[42:25] Speaker 4: You're talking about your, your story.
[42:26] Speaker 2: Sorry. Not my relationship. Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I'm talking about,
[42:29] Speaker 2: I'm talking about my life.
[42:30] Speaker 1: Like, like the blessing of my relationship will be equally
[42:33] Speaker 1: met with a very low, low at some point, unrelated
[42:35] Speaker 1: to the relationship most likely, or maybe like I, it's dude. I, I,
[42:40] Speaker 1: I'm constantly reminded that life is really all about balance.
[42:45] Speaker 1: And I feel like everything just, you know, energy can
[42:47] Speaker 1: either be created nor destroyed.
[42:49] Speaker 2: And like, I'm just trying to cherish the good moments.
[42:51] Speaker 1: Cause I know there will be a time when things
[42:54] Speaker 1: aren't so good and I don't know what it looks like,
[42:57] Speaker 1: but like when things are positive, make sure you're appreciating
[43:01] Speaker 1: those moments.
[43:02] Speaker 3: I think like being able to allow the enjoyment rather
[43:05] Speaker 3: than like waiting for what's on the horizon that I
[43:07] Speaker 3: need to be prepared for. Like it will steal your
[43:09] Speaker 3: peace like every time.
[43:11] Speaker 4: But you'd probably do that. I do that too. I've
[43:16] Speaker 4: spent my entire life waiting for the other shoe to drop.
[43:19] Speaker 4: My entire life. There's never been a day where I
[43:21] Speaker 4: was like, oh shit, I have a best-selling fucking book.
[43:24] Speaker 4: I have this. It's always like, but what if this happens?
[43:27] Speaker 4: What if that happens? And that is the worst possible
[43:31] Speaker 4: mindset to have. And I guess that's a good question
[43:33] Speaker 4: for you because I know he does it. His relationship,
[43:37] Speaker 4: his child, his family, everything that he has right now,
[43:40] Speaker 4: he manifested. All of this. He knew he manifested being
[43:47] Speaker 4: the biggest entertainer. He manifested all of it. Not always
[43:50] Speaker 4: specifically or exactly, but a generalization of I'm going to
[43:54] Speaker 4: be this. I'm going to have this. Something I've been
[43:57] Speaker 4: notoriously terrible at, which is why I live very hour
[44:01] Speaker 4: to hour, minute to minute. How are you in that aspect?
[44:05] Speaker 4: Are you in a place right now in your life
[44:06] Speaker 4: where you're able to manifest that positivity?
[44:09] Speaker 3: Bro, I'd say I just speak to God every single day.
[44:12] Speaker 3: I'd say that's the biggest, like I've tried so many
[44:15] Speaker 3: different ways to try and get myself like the momentum of,
[44:18] Speaker 3: you know, like you say, manifesting and like, I'm going
[44:20] Speaker 3: to do this. I'm going to do that. Like, and
[44:23] Speaker 3: it's like only when like this winter I've gone, you
[44:26] Speaker 3: know what? I don't have it all figured out. I
[44:28] Speaker 3: don't know what's best for me. And I completely surrendered
[44:31] Speaker 3: to God's plan for me. ever since doing that, like
[44:35] Speaker 3: shit's just started fucking clicking. Like I've rebuilt relationships. I'm
[44:39] Speaker 3: playing at fucking Wembley stadium on Saturday. Like, you know,
[44:43] Speaker 3: stuff I've been doing with the Simon boys, like getting
[44:46] Speaker 3: back with, you know, launching my own podcast again, like
[44:48] Speaker 3: the vision of how I want to move forward with
[44:49] Speaker 3: my career. It's like, it's kind of just downloaded piece
[44:52] Speaker 3: by piece. And it's, uh, yeah. Whether that's one big
[44:56] Speaker 3: placebo effect, I don't know, but I, I believe in
[44:59] Speaker 3: God and I feel like that's, that's the biggest thing
[45:01] Speaker 3: that's sort of impacted me in recent time.
[45:03] Speaker 2: I feel that so strongly.
[45:05] Speaker 1: The manifestation he's talking about has evolved now in my
[45:08] Speaker 1: adult life to, to talking to God. I was going
[45:11] Speaker 1: to ask you like, at least cause at least for me, man,
[45:14] Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like I heard, I feel
[45:18] Speaker 1: so heard sometimes. And I went from not really knowing
[45:22] Speaker 1: what to do with an abundance of gratitude. Cause like, dude,
[45:26] Speaker 1: I will look around and I'll be like, I mean,
[45:29] Speaker 1: I think all of us in this room, we.
[45:31] Speaker 2: Got, we got, you know, good lives.
[45:34] Speaker 4: Really good lives, bro. Holy shit, bro.
[45:37] Speaker 2: We're pretty lucky.
[45:38] Speaker 4: For sure, dude.
[45:39] Speaker 1: And so it's like, I feel like to vocalize that
[45:41] Speaker 1: gratitude is really fucking important. And I recently just started
[45:44] Speaker 1: to like ask for stuff. I didn't before, but you know,
[45:49] Speaker 1: I think George actually was like, yo, like, like ask,
[45:52] Speaker 1: like you ask and you shall receive. I was like,
[45:54] Speaker 1: all right, I'll give it a shot. So I started
[45:56] Speaker 1: asking for, for, for, for stuff. And, man, it all is, like, happening,
[46:01] Speaker 1: and I feel, like, so heard by God, creator, universe, like,
[46:05] Speaker 1: whatever it is, like, I don't think it's placebo.
[46:09] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[46:09] Speaker 2: It feels very real.
[46:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the way I say it, like, I
[46:13] Speaker 3: try to not be, like, I want, can you do
[46:15] Speaker 3: this for me? I say, like, if it is your will,
[46:18] Speaker 3: let it happen, I am ready. Like, do you know
[46:21] Speaker 3: what I mean?
[46:21] Speaker 6: Inshallah.
[46:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what I mean? Because, like, I
[46:23] Speaker 3: know it can easily get to, like, please do this
[46:25] Speaker 3: for me, I want this, can, like, like, can I
[46:27] Speaker 3: have this? And it's, like, I feel like that's a very...
[46:30] Speaker 3: it's not the right energy like to be putting out
[46:32] Speaker 3: but um yeah like as in like the guidance to
[46:34] Speaker 3: be aligned with with that which you want to pursue
[46:37] Speaker 3: because i feel like that thing like the things that
[46:38] Speaker 3: you're wanting to manifest right there i don't they don't
[46:40] Speaker 3: come from nowhere and i wonder if like there's an
[46:43] Speaker 3: element of like the things that you actually feel like
[46:45] Speaker 3: deep in your gut that you desire like who's putting
[46:48] Speaker 3: them there is that part of the purpose of why
[46:51] Speaker 3: you've been put here and do you know what i
[46:52] Speaker 3: mean like i often think like is that is there
[46:55] Speaker 3: you know for me it's like ultimate feeling of that
[46:58] Speaker 3: gut instinct of like this is made for me and
[47:01] Speaker 3: this is what i should go and do like i
[47:04] Speaker 3: wonder if that is god that's a way in which
[47:06] Speaker 3: like he communicates to us but um yeah i mean
[47:09] Speaker 3: i recently had on my podcast someone that's an absolute
[47:11] Speaker 3: atheist and thinks that we're all fucking mental for believing
[47:14] Speaker 3: in god like so does that mean they're you know
[47:17] Speaker 3: but they're getting blessed in ways they're they're yeah still
[47:19] Speaker 3: experiencing a lot.
[47:20] Speaker 4: Of times they come around.
[47:21] Speaker 3: So i'm just sort of like And he used to
[47:23] Speaker 3: be a Catholic and into all of that stuff.
[47:26] Speaker 4: Interesting.
[47:27] Speaker 3: And now he's completely against it, but he's thriving more
[47:29] Speaker 3: than ever. Yeah, it is so interesting. Is it going
[47:33] Speaker 3: to happen anyway? It's weird. There's so many perspectives that
[47:38] Speaker 3: you can put on things.
[47:39] Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. It's perspective, bro.
[47:40] Speaker 1: Everyone has their own individual experience. And if something's working
[47:43] Speaker 1: for you or making you feel good, do it.
[47:48] Speaker 4: And if it's good for... Honestly, if it's innately good
[47:51] Speaker 4: for someone else. too like that's that's like that's like
[47:54] Speaker 4: the core lead for me in life is like what
[47:57] Speaker 4: things can i be doing that like somehow help someone
[48:00] Speaker 4: else because those make me feel good and i and
[48:03] Speaker 4: i and truthfully i haven't done enough and like you
[48:06] Speaker 4: say just barely scratching the surface of it but like
[48:08] Speaker 4: the world can definitely be a little bit nicer to
[48:11] Speaker 4: one another probably you know what i'm saying like it's
[48:13] Speaker 4: just it's a wild what do you what do you
[48:15] Speaker 4: make of the direction of social media right now are
[48:18] Speaker 4: you on uh the website formerly known as twitter.
[48:21] Speaker 3: Uh not particularly because it is just like porn in
[48:24] Speaker 3: it that is porn.
[48:26] Speaker 4: It's fucking people getting fucking.
[48:28] Speaker 3: Murdered it's just like it's just shit that i think
[48:30] Speaker 3: is good to be exposed to all the time like
[48:33] Speaker 3: bro the what looking at that fucking cheap dopamine can
[48:36] Speaker 3: do for your brain is actually scary like what like
[48:39] Speaker 3: your explore page on instagram like you look at one
[48:42] Speaker 3: female and boom you're targeted by like all sorts and
[48:45] Speaker 3: i just feel like It's poison, man. Like, it's actually
[48:48] Speaker 3: fucking poison.
[48:49] Speaker 4: We have this conversation a lot in this show of
[48:51] Speaker 4: net positive versus net negative social media. I've always been
[48:55] Speaker 4: an incredibly net negative person on social media. Now, me personally,
[48:58] Speaker 4: for my life, shit. I love social media. You know
[49:01] Speaker 4: what I'm saying? But for the average user out there,
[49:03] Speaker 4: I say to people all the time, if you're not
[49:06] Speaker 4: either pursuing the idea of or actively making money on
[49:10] Speaker 4: social media or.
[49:13] Speaker 4: God bless the very seemingly minute amount of people out
[49:16] Speaker 4: there who are making an impact on social media, meaning
[49:18] Speaker 4: helping people. you're in the wrong place. It's not a
[49:21] Speaker 4: good place to just be fucking hanging out all day,
[49:24] Speaker 4: consuming this bullshit. Everybody's all of a sudden a, a
[49:28] Speaker 4: expert or extremely interested in the nasty world of politics
[49:32] Speaker 4: and right verse left wing this. And you know, immigration
[49:36] Speaker 4: and all this stuff, dude, you, you work in HVAC
[49:39] Speaker 4: and it's a very noble position and everyone in Tuscaloosa
[49:43] Speaker 4: needs their venting done. But I really don't think you,
[49:46] Speaker 4: you know what you're fucking talking about as it pertains
[49:49] Speaker 4: to the geopolitical theater and warfare that exists within it. Okay.
[49:53] Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Gert, you know, Gary. Okay. Like that's not
[49:56] Speaker 4: a diss to you. It's simply me saying that your
[49:59] Speaker 4: time is better spent doing something that you are extremely
[50:02] Speaker 4: good at. I think everyone, even like, dude, you look at, everyone,
[50:07] Speaker 4: Joe Rogan, even like any of these Elon, Elon, go
[50:11] Speaker 4: make rockets. I don't, I like, I love, I love
[50:13] Speaker 4: the idea of government efficiency, but it's just crazy to
[50:16] Speaker 4: me that like everyone all of a sudden does everything. Yeah. Why?
[50:22] Speaker 4: Because there used to be, we, we somehow got convinced
[50:27] Speaker 4: that we cannot trust experts. All of them.
[50:30] Speaker 2: Right.
[50:30] Speaker 4: Yeah. The idea of expertise. No, I know what you're
[50:33] Speaker 4: going to say in the proof. Okay, good.
[50:36] Speaker 2: They've let us down a lot.
[50:37] Speaker 4: Okay. True. And they've, and they've done the opposite of
[50:40] Speaker 4: letting us down a lot more. Okay. And so like,
[50:43] Speaker 4: if you simply always call out the faults of the
[50:45] Speaker 4: scientific community, then of course, then of course, you're going
[50:48] Speaker 4: to forget about the fact that they are, they, they
[50:51] Speaker 4: are saving 99 times more lives than they're, they're taking out. Now,
[50:56] Speaker 4: of course there's negative sides. There's big pharma, there's corporations.
[51:00] Speaker 4: There's all kinds of shit that goes on with the
[51:01] Speaker 4: government and stuff like that. Sure. Call that out. But
[51:04] Speaker 4: I think we've, I think people have gotten obsessed to
[51:07] Speaker 4: a point where they're unable to activate in their own
[51:12] Speaker 4: lives and, and are not doing what they have to
[51:14] Speaker 4: do to, to, to do. If you're spending four hours
[51:17] Speaker 4: a day on your phone, talking about the price of eggs.
[51:21] Speaker 4: I think it's hurting you more than what those four
[51:23] Speaker 4: hours could have done for you to help you buy
[51:25] Speaker 4: more eggs. Does that make sense?
[51:27] Speaker 2: I hear you.
[51:29] Speaker 4: The opportunity cost for people being online all day is
[51:31] Speaker 4: way too high.
[51:32] Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying.
[51:33] Speaker 4: Way too high.
[51:33] Speaker 3: I think it comes back to caveman times, right? We
[51:37] Speaker 3: are meant to only really be in communities of about
[51:39] Speaker 3: 15 people.
[51:41] Speaker 6: Right maybe 30 maybe 30 right right right yeah but
[51:45] Speaker 6: like going online and being exposed to that much so
[51:48] Speaker 6: much i i just feel like overall you're right it's
[51:51] Speaker 6: detrimental detrimental and it overwhelms and it can be like
[51:54] Speaker 6: the comparison thieving our joy like the getting engaged with
[51:58] Speaker 6: people that we like we shouldn't even be talking like
[52:01] Speaker 6: seeing like you can see like relationships and, you know,
[52:05] Speaker 6: men or women and compare your family or your partner
[52:08] Speaker 6: to these people subconsciously.
[52:09] Speaker 3: And it may, do you know what I mean? I
[52:10] Speaker 3: feel like there's so many different elements on social media
[52:13] Speaker 3: that we expose ourselves to that actually just like, fuck us,
[52:16] Speaker 3: but we get addicted to it. It's a little like
[52:18] Speaker 3: dopamine hit every time.
[52:19] Speaker 2: I love that dopamine hit though.
[52:20] Speaker 3: It's quality in it, man.
[52:21] Speaker 4: It's so great.
[52:23] Speaker 2: It's so bad.
[52:24] Speaker 4: No, it's horrible. Do you know why I get it
[52:28] Speaker 4: a little bit more innately than a lot of other people?
[52:31] Speaker 4: Because I lived, I'm one of the last to have
[52:33] Speaker 4: lived in a world where that simply did not exist.
[52:37] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And so like, I can
[52:38] Speaker 4: see in my own timeline, in my life, how destructive
[52:44] Speaker 4: that has been to my mental health. If you have
[52:46] Speaker 4: the mental health of a social media user, but you
[52:49] Speaker 4: have no pre-social media life to compare it to, you
[52:52] Speaker 4: only know anxiety, stress, comparison. you know, all murder fucking porn.
[52:59] Speaker 4: That's all, you know, like these 16, 18 year old kids,
[53:02] Speaker 4: they grew up with an iPad or an iPhone in
[53:04] Speaker 4: their hand. They don't know what it's like to just
[53:06] Speaker 4: go out with your homies and ride a bike and
[53:08] Speaker 4: not worry about how your bike is different than the
[53:10] Speaker 4: person on Instagram who posted their bike with better pegs
[53:12] Speaker 4: and better handlebars and all that shit. They don't know
[53:14] Speaker 4: what that's like. I remember life before it was this
[53:18] Speaker 4: fucking rat race, dude. You know what I'm saying? And
[53:21] Speaker 4: so I innately know and so intensely know how bad
[53:27] Speaker 4: this is for the world. I just know it for
[53:29] Speaker 4: a fact. It is horrible. And so I think the
[53:32] Speaker 4: more people can stay off their phones, the more people
[53:35] Speaker 4: can lock into the things that actually can make them
[53:38] Speaker 4: money or feel good or passion in their lives, the better.
[53:41] Speaker 4: I think it is a massive net negative for the world.
[53:43] Speaker 3: So you'd get rid of it if you could.
[53:45] Speaker 4: If I could. no because then you go broke that's
[53:50] Speaker 4: the problem for me for me which is what i for.
[53:53] Speaker 3: Us the liberation that we have to now do the
[53:55] Speaker 3: issue is is that like you know we can use
[53:57] Speaker 3: it in ways that is so positive like being able
[53:59] Speaker 3: to reach and communicate with people like all around the world.
[54:01] Speaker 4: Who we are as people i can know not who
[54:03] Speaker 4: we are as people wasn't it's not natural it's not
[54:06] Speaker 4: humans are not naturally humans are selfish beings humans are
[54:10] Speaker 4: very selfish fucking beings okay and so and and and
[54:14] Speaker 4: stuck in their ways and it's not it's not natural
[54:17] Speaker 4: for someone to want to go out and say hey
[54:22] Speaker 4: i know there's someone watching this episode right now that
[54:24] Speaker 4: feels the anxiety that i feel today and i want
[54:26] Speaker 4: to and i want to talk to you about it
[54:27] Speaker 4: that's not a natural it took me a long time
[54:29] Speaker 4: to get vulnerable and talk about heroin addiction and talk
[54:32] Speaker 4: about fucking not wanting to be here some days and
[54:34] Speaker 4: all of these things it's much more likely that people
[54:37] Speaker 4: are going to are going to boast themselves up, big
[54:40] Speaker 4: themselves up, talk about the things that make them money. It's,
[54:43] Speaker 4: it's just, it's, it's unnatural for humans to just want
[54:46] Speaker 4: to always be helping each other.
[54:47] Speaker 3: It's just not helping each other.
[54:49] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[54:49] Speaker 3: But as in like, there's some people that just like
[54:51] Speaker 3: wear their heart on their sleeve.
[54:52] Speaker 4: Right.
[54:52] Speaker 3: So as in like talking about certain things actually is
[54:54] Speaker 3: what helps them. So as in like being open and
[54:56] Speaker 3: vulnerable about, say for example, like me with my mental health,
[54:59] Speaker 3: it really helps me to talk about it.
[55:01] Speaker 4: Of course.
[55:01] Speaker 3: Other people would like to open up about that shit.
[55:03] Speaker 3: It's fucking hard.
[55:04] Speaker 4: Well, do you think, do you think, what do you
[55:05] Speaker 4: think is the representative percentage of people currently on social
[55:08] Speaker 4: media that are wearing their hearts on their sleeves versus
[55:11] Speaker 4: telling some insanely facetious lie about how great their lives are?
[55:15] Speaker 3: I reckon 99.9%. Do you know what I'm saying? It's
[55:18] Speaker 3: a load of bullshit to, yeah, to go, here's my,
[55:21] Speaker 3: the idyllic thing that you want. And it's like, Yeah.
[55:24] Speaker 3: As in like people want to look at that shit
[55:26] Speaker 3: and it gets views and it gets clicks because it's
[55:28] Speaker 3: this fantasy, but it's not real. But people are looking
[55:30] Speaker 3: at this thing on their phone. There's a fantasy that's
[55:32] Speaker 3: fiction and comparing their real life to fiction.
[55:36] Speaker 4: Do you see these kids that watch streams? These streamers
[55:40] Speaker 4: make money. Don't get me wrong. But I see a
[55:41] Speaker 4: post every day about, you know, this streamer made $ 78
[55:45] Speaker 4: million last year. No, they didn't. And now I see
[55:48] Speaker 4: kids under the post that they made $ 78 million last
[55:50] Speaker 4: year and it says that's it. What I thought it
[55:54] Speaker 4: would have been more than that. Like people are really
[55:57] Speaker 4: in my mind, really losing a connection with reality. I
[56:02] Speaker 4: think reality is becoming so blurred. And so such a
[56:05] Speaker 4: gray area that like, it's hard to really tell what's truth,
[56:08] Speaker 4: who to listen to, what to think about anything anymore. You, and,
[56:12] Speaker 4: and guess what? Like what I'm saying is social media
[56:14] Speaker 4: just continues to blur that the only reality is here
[56:16] Speaker 4: in this room with our phones off looking and talking
[56:19] Speaker 4: to each other. That's it. Hmm.
[56:20] Speaker 3: Cause everyone's also trying to sell you something. Like it's
[56:23] Speaker 3: all just like consuming.
[56:24] Speaker 6: Right.
[56:24] Speaker 4: Do you think, do you think the people on X
[56:26] Speaker 4: are really concerned.
[56:27] Speaker 2: With what I said?
[56:28] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[56:28] Speaker 2: During prime.
[56:29] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[56:30] Speaker 3: Literally. Obviously.
[56:31] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[56:32] Speaker 3: It is class. I do love prime, but like, uh, everything,
[56:35] Speaker 3: like even if someone's being vulnerable, it's like, yeah, but
[56:37] Speaker 3: low key, what's the, what's, what's the.
[56:39] Speaker 4: There's a dude named Jackson Hinkle on X. He's, he's
[56:43] Speaker 4: like the most out, like outspoken Israeli, uh, you know,
[56:46] Speaker 4: per person that's saying like Israel does everything wrong. So
[56:49] Speaker 4: on and so forth. Do you think that he's like,
[56:51] Speaker 4: he like, this dude is the most white bread, college bread,
[56:56] Speaker 4: American man to ever exist. You see him and you're
[56:59] Speaker 4: just like, this dude would play lacrosse, get drunk and
[57:01] Speaker 4: fight someone at the bar. He's literally at Syrian funerals,
[57:06] Speaker 4: throwing his fists up with like, with like Arab men and,
[57:10] Speaker 4: for the, against America now. Do you think he really
[57:13] Speaker 4: believes that? Or do you think he loves the ad
[57:15] Speaker 4: money he gets and the $ 3 he sells in premium
[57:17] Speaker 4: subscriptions every time he sells a premium subscription?
[57:19] Speaker 3: I think we all know the answer to that.
[57:20] Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying?
[57:22] Speaker 3: Now that it's so easy to make money on social media,
[57:24] Speaker 3: it's basically like, whatever is going to make me the
[57:26] Speaker 3: most money, I'm going to fucking go for that.
[57:27] Speaker 4: And you know what makes, do you want to know
[57:29] Speaker 4: what makes the most money right now? Hate. Oh yeah.
[57:32] Speaker 4: Hate is the biggest, commodity in the world right now
[57:36] Speaker 4: if you sell hate you are rich and it's so
[57:38] Speaker 4: funny because i get both of us get made fun
[57:41] Speaker 4: of all the time for being fence sitters people that
[57:43] Speaker 4: go along with the narrative because we don't pick a
[57:47] Speaker 4: side and say we're right and we hate you we
[57:49] Speaker 4: hate you you're disgusting you're fat an only fans whore
[57:53] Speaker 4: a jew all that stuff you want to know the
[57:55] Speaker 4: fucked up thing about is what they make 10 times
[57:58] Speaker 4: more money than us As far as content is concerned,
[58:00] Speaker 4: 10 times more. Hate is so monetized right now. If
[58:03] Speaker 4: you're full left wing or full right wing, you're making
[58:06] Speaker 4: so much more money than people that play the middle.
[58:08] Speaker 4: You just are, dude.
[58:09] Speaker 3: Money just is the root of evil.
[58:10] Speaker 2: 100%.
[58:11] Speaker 3: It just fucking is. Like, if you're trying to... Like, realistically, like,
[58:14] Speaker 3: no one actually needs to buy anything. And no one
[58:16] Speaker 3: needs to actually really... Like, money's a made-up thing, right?
[58:19] Speaker 3: And the shit that we do in order to, like,
[58:21] Speaker 3: try and get this fucking money, like, if you wouldn't
[58:25] Speaker 3: do it without getting that money, I'm like, why are you, like...
[58:29] Speaker 3: I don't believe you should actually really be doing it.
[58:31] Speaker 3: But that's actually why I believe. And I feel like
[58:32] Speaker 3: that's an element of why I did like when I
[58:34] Speaker 3: did the solo traveling shit, just like back to fucking
[58:37] Speaker 3: basics and really like realizing like what actually does like
[58:41] Speaker 3: fulfill us. Cause I do, I don't think anyone will
[58:43] Speaker 3: be truly fulfilled by just fucking money. Like genuine.
[58:46] Speaker 4: It's impossible. Like, yeah, impossible.
[58:50] Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of, uh, nuance to, A
[58:53] Speaker 2: lot of things.
[58:54] Speaker 1: I think like that's often forgot because the ability to
[58:58] Speaker 1: understand nuance is a bit of like a evolved thought process.
[59:04] Speaker 1: I think like I said not that long ago, a
[59:08] Speaker 1: lot of this stuff in life in general is about balance.
[59:10] Speaker 1: So for every selfish person you have, you may have, um,
[59:14] Speaker 1: an equal but opposite generous person. Um, for every person
[59:18] Speaker 1: who believes something about Israel is someone on the opposite side.
[59:21] Speaker 1: Like it's, it all, it always just seems to come like,
[59:23] Speaker 1: like overall back, like full circle and the ability to like,
[59:28] Speaker 1: live in that middle ground where you can understand both
[59:30] Speaker 1: sides and hear perspectives and not jump to one seems
[59:35] Speaker 1: to be an uncommon perspective these days because it's hard
[59:40] Speaker 1: it's like hard hate is easy so easy hate is
[59:43] Speaker 1: so easy it's a headline it's so easy to go
[59:46] Speaker 1: in the comment section and by the way there's three
[59:48] Speaker 1: other people who think your same thought so your little
[59:50] Speaker 1: echo chamber like makes you feel like you're a part
[59:52] Speaker 1: of a gang and your your thoughts aren't that uncommon but.
[59:56] Speaker 4: That's a huge part of it, too. The camaraderie.
[59:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel like you're a part, like, we'll hate
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: this person together, let's fucking go.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: We want to be part of something. We want to
[1:00:04] Speaker 3: feel like we're in a group. That's, again, back to
[1:00:06] Speaker 3: the caveman thing, right? It's like, you want to be
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: part of the herd. As in, you want to be
[1:00:10] Speaker 3: part of the pack, you know? Yeah, yeah.
[1:00:12] Speaker 4: But have you noticed that people that have, have you
[1:00:15] Speaker 4: ever noticed that people that have real-life camaraderie, friendships, businesses,
[1:00:19] Speaker 4: the people that are doing a lot of, like, real
[1:00:21] Speaker 4: stuff in this world, generally are able to understand and
[1:00:27] Speaker 4: deal in nuance better than people that don't have that
[1:00:30] Speaker 4: because they already have that camaraderie. They don't need to
[1:00:33] Speaker 4: go and say some fucked up one-sided shit. to get
[1:00:37] Speaker 4: a clan. They've already got a clan. So they say, okay,
[1:00:40] Speaker 4: I'm secure in my clan in real life. I've got
[1:00:42] Speaker 4: my friends, my family, whatever. So I'm going to now
[1:00:44] Speaker 4: go and look at both sides of an argument and
[1:00:46] Speaker 4: see the good in both sides or bad in both sides.
[1:00:48] Speaker 3: Ultimately, if you're like, if you're at peace with yourself,
[1:00:51] Speaker 3: if you're happy in your real life, you ain't projecting
[1:00:53] Speaker 3: shit and hate onto others, especially on fucking online.
[1:00:56] Speaker 4: That's why X is the most unhappy app.
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just, it's weird.
[1:01:01] Speaker 4: It's weird.
[1:01:02] Speaker 3: I don't really engage with it too much. If I'm honest,
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: I don't really, I don't, I just don't look at
[1:01:05] Speaker 3: it too much. Like, More than anything, I actually really
[1:01:09] Speaker 3: want to talk about wrestling.
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: Me too.
[1:01:12] Speaker 4: Me too.
[1:01:12] Speaker 3: I really want to talk about wrestling.
[1:01:14] Speaker 4: Me too, bro.
[1:01:14] Speaker 3: Let me start.
[1:01:15] Speaker 4: Yeah, go.
[1:01:15] Speaker 2: All right, bro. Thank you. Thank you. You inspired the
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: shit out of me, Joe.
[1:01:21] Speaker 1: Bro, your wrestling videos back in the day, I mean,
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: I know you know this because this was when we
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: first started talking. I think like on Twitter, we would
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: DM each other and I was like, dude, like these videos,
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: I made one of my own and because you would,
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: you would, you would, do moves, wrestling moves on these
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: girls into the pool with the audio of WWE track
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: under it.
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: And they went crazy viral.
[1:01:47] Speaker 1: And I remember watching them at like, man, I was
[1:01:50] Speaker 1: 19 years old. Maybe I was like, this guy's hilarious.
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: This is crazy. I'm going to try one of these.
[1:01:56] Speaker 2: So I did the RKO to Randy Orton in the pool.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: And then fast forward a decade later, bro, like again,
[1:02:02] Speaker 1: you started something that has.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: I owe you money, I'm sure.
[1:02:07] Speaker 1: Bro, from influencer boxing to professional wrestling?
[1:02:11] Speaker 2: Bro, god damn. He wants 2%. That's crazy, man.
[1:02:15] Speaker 3: Let's do it. But no, mate, it's crazy because back then,
[1:02:18] Speaker 3: so I went to a WrestleMania, Paul Heyman was like,
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: I love your video, that swimming pool one. He's like,
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: come along, let's make another one.
[1:02:24] Speaker 1: No way.
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: And I'll get you in at WrestleMania. You can stay
[1:02:26] Speaker 3: in the WWE hotel. Fucking Triple H kicked me out.
[1:02:30] Speaker 2: What?
[1:02:31] Speaker 3: He was like, he's this fucking YouTuber. Get out of here.
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: They were so not open to the whole YouTube stuff
[1:02:37] Speaker 3: back then.
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: And he was probably a A wrestler?
[1:02:41] Speaker 4: No, was he like.
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: I think he was.
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: Like an executive-ish position? Yeah, he was.
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: I think he was still wrestling, but it was like...
[1:02:50] Speaker 3: It was just a very much like, who the fuck's
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: this YouTuber? Get like distance... There was no embracing of
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: it back at that point.
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: Um, well, that's just Paul Heyman got it.
[1:02:59] Speaker 3: Paul Heyman got it. And, uh, he made like a video,
[1:03:02] Speaker 3: like we made Brock Lesnar, like to say, fuck you, Joe.
[1:03:04] Speaker 3: And like, Oh my God.
[1:03:06] Speaker 4: Yeah. It was sick.
[1:03:08] Speaker 3: But like, yeah, I only, I often think I was like,
[1:03:11] Speaker 3: imagine if what, what the social media world is doing
[1:03:14] Speaker 3: right now. Imagine if that was just like five years
[1:03:16] Speaker 3: before what could have been possible. Because, like, yeah, like
[1:03:19] Speaker 3: you say, like, those videos, they fucking banged.
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: They crushed.
[1:03:22] Speaker 3: They were so good, man. Yeah, man. It was sick.
[1:03:25] Speaker 2: When you're just tossing these, like, why did you decide
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: to do that? Just wrestling fan?
[1:03:30] Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like, I love doing the wrestling moves. I've done, like,
[1:03:33] Speaker 3: wrestling moves. Was that the first one? I don't know.
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: I know I've done it, like, on my friends in public.
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: Like I would take the idea, like the idea behind
[1:03:40] Speaker 3: those videos is take like a couple of concepts and
[1:03:43] Speaker 3: like put them together. So I do like Ronaldo, like
[1:03:46] Speaker 3: I did, got dressed up as Cristiano Ronaldo makeup done professionally.
[1:03:50] Speaker 3: And cause he was the biggest athlete at the time
[1:03:51] Speaker 3: in the world and public videos are banging. So I
[1:03:53] Speaker 3: did Cristiano Ronaldo picking up girls in public. And I thought, well, that,
[1:03:58] Speaker 3: that bank, let me do the girl thing, but wrestling moves.
[1:04:02] Speaker 3: Cause that's also a bit outrageous.
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:04:04] Speaker 3: And it fucking like you put the two together and
[1:04:05] Speaker 3: it just, it just works. You know what I mean?
[1:04:07] Speaker 4: So.
[1:04:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love wrestling, man. I'd love to be
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: in your position.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: Why don't you do it?
[1:04:14] Speaker 3: Because, I don't know, maybe I'm not, well, I'm definitely
[1:04:18] Speaker 3: not as popping as you are right now. And I
[1:04:20] Speaker 3: think there's speed, there's like Clyde Sinat and you, probably
[1:04:23] Speaker 3: in the WWE, out of the influencer world.
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. If you can wrestle, you can wrestle.
[1:04:29] Speaker 2: If you have skills, that's undeniable.
[1:04:32] Speaker 4: Hey, that's how you pay him back. Just saying. That's
[1:04:35] Speaker 4: how you pay him back. Get him into a match, dude.
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: Logan Paul versus Joe Weller at WrestleMania. It's happening. Here
[1:04:40] Speaker 3: we fucking go. Right?
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: You know you want it.
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: Imagine that.
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: Any of the pools, bro.
[1:04:45] Speaker 4: Any of the pools.
[1:04:46] Speaker 2: Are you coming to the London event?
[1:04:48] Speaker 3: I believe so, yeah.
[1:04:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, I will be.
[1:04:49] Speaker 2: You have to.
[1:04:50] Speaker 3: I'll see you in the ring.
[1:04:51] Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Joe.
[1:04:52] Speaker 4: I'm cashing in the money.
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: In the bank. Are you following now?
[1:04:56] Speaker 4: Bro, yeah.
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: Like, since Netflix, it's like, you can see that everyone's
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: fucking gassed. Everyone's going up a level. Like, I listened
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: to your Michael Cole podcast.
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sick.
[1:05:05] Speaker 3: I listened to him talk about all of that stuff. Like, mate,
[1:05:07] Speaker 3: it's just so cool. Like, I love hearing about... the
[1:05:10] Speaker 3: behind the scenes of how, how it all works. Like,
[1:05:12] Speaker 3: you know, as a massive wrestling fan, like you see
[1:05:15] Speaker 3: what's on the screen and you see like, okay, if this,
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: if this is like, you know, choreographed or whatever, to
[1:05:20] Speaker 3: an extent, these guys seem like they absolutely hate each other.
[1:05:23] Speaker 3: So how are they knocking the hell out of each
[1:05:24] Speaker 3: other and not losing their head and not giving each
[1:05:27] Speaker 3: other receipts and stuff that Ray Mysterio fucking thing where
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: he almost landed on his head and you caught him.
[1:05:33] Speaker 4: Oh, he saved his life.
[1:05:34] Speaker 3: You saved his life.
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: No, I actually, I'm going to flip that narrative. I
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: almost killed him.
[1:05:39] Speaker 3: It was your fault.
[1:05:40] Speaker 4: Yes.
[1:05:41] Speaker 3: What?
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: I think so.
[1:05:42] Speaker 4: How?
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: Partially his fault as well. Dog, he's getting old. He
[1:05:45] Speaker 2: didn't jump as far as I thought he would. He
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: said he was going for a move. Bullshit. So I
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: caught him because he was going to fucking die. Caught
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: his ass and countered his ass.
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: No, it's fascinating, Joe. I came from the outside world, obviously,
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: and I didn't fully understand wrestling. And now that I'm
[1:06:03] Speaker 1: in it, I have so much appreciation and respect for the.
[1:06:05] Speaker 2: Depth of this business. People have no idea. No idea.
[1:06:10] Speaker 1: Behind the scenes is the craziest, first off, group of
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: people you can imagine. Everyone's a character. Because if they're
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: working and they're not wrestling, it's because they used to wrestle,
[1:06:22] Speaker 1: which means they have these huge personalities. Or in case
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: of like Stu, cameraman six, CEO of camera six, he
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: was never good enough to be a wrestler.
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: You know?
[1:06:31] Speaker 4: Right.
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: As well, like that ring, right? Because a lot of
[1:06:35] Speaker 3: people go, oh, wrestling is because it's like fake. It
[1:06:38] Speaker 3: doesn't hurt. Like, bro, I did a training day, a ring,
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: just running the ropes, whole entire fucking ribs bruised to shit.
[1:06:47] Speaker 3: That's just fucking leaning on the ropes, running to another one,
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: leaning on the ropes.
[1:06:50] Speaker 2: The mat, it's just wood. It's wood.
[1:06:53] Speaker 3: It's just pure like, like, how they're not concussed just
[1:06:56] Speaker 3: constantly horrible I'm literally like do you think like is
[1:06:59] Speaker 3: this causing long term damage doing this or do you
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: not think about that don't.
[1:07:05] Speaker 1: Know for me personally it's definitely a concern but that's
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: why technique is so important you gotta take the bump
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: a certain way tuck the chin yeah tuck the chin
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: like I've gone.
[1:07:17] Speaker 4: Through all of it he didn't tuck the chin one
[1:07:19] Speaker 4: time on a big move on his biggest move ever.
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: Yeah that double clothesline I didn't even take a the
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: landing into.
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: Account at all.
[1:07:26] Speaker 4: Ricochet.
[1:07:27] Speaker 2: Just got smoked, bro.
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: The phenomenon you're describing of the hardness of the mat,
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: I remember so vividly coming into my first WWE session.
[1:07:37] Speaker 1: I was working with Mike The Miz, and I'm touching
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: the mat. I'm like, this is crazy. So, like, is
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: the bouncy one during the actual match? And he goes, no, dude,
[1:07:46] Speaker 1: this is the ring. Like, it's the same ring. And
[1:07:49] Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but on TV, it's, like, bouncy, right? Like,
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: how are you guys landing like that? He's like, no, dude.
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: And by the way, every celebrity that I see come
[1:07:57] Speaker 1: in there, in there doing a match or like doing
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: a spot or whatever, they same reaction. Every day they
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: feel the edge of the mat. They're like, bro, this
[1:08:07] Speaker 1: isn't even fucking moving. And I'm like, yeah, I've been
[1:08:10] Speaker 1: there in the chairs.
[1:08:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:08:13] Speaker 1: They show me the metal chair. I said, okay, so like,
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: where's a fake? Where's the plastic chair? No plastic fucking
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: chair Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn That match that had
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: an elimination chamber And the barbed wire Around the chair
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: That was real fucking barbed wire I felt it beforehand
[1:08:31] Speaker 1: I saw the chair I was like no way Tap
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: tap tap it's sharp It's insane dude That's why like
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: fake is not the word It's just not the word
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: I hear the critique But John Cena told me once
[1:08:46] Speaker 1: He said, before he turned heel and everyone liked him,
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: and I liked him too, but now I don't anymore.
[1:08:51] Speaker 1: He said, if someone tells me, or says to me,
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: makes a comment about wrestling being fake, it just tells
[1:08:57] Speaker 1: me they don't know anything about wrestling. And that's not,
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: an issue if it's not if you don't know anything
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: like ignorance is i can't i think.
[1:09:03] Speaker 4: There's more a different way i think people are coming
[1:09:06] Speaker 4: more becoming more educated as to what it is fake
[1:09:09] Speaker 4: is not the word no also i've took a bump. Yeah.
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: You got in there.
[1:09:14] Speaker 4: It's whole, it's insane. And the only reason I made
[1:09:17] Speaker 4: it through it, me and Georgie is because the one
[1:09:21] Speaker 4: thing that happens when you're in there is you're, you're,
[1:09:23] Speaker 4: it's pure adrenaline. So, so like, so like, it's like
[1:09:26] Speaker 4: anything could happen to you. And like, I feel like
[1:09:28] Speaker 4: some of these guys get up and they don't even
[1:09:30] Speaker 4: know that their arm is hanging off. Like you wouldn't
[1:09:32] Speaker 4: even know because you're so fueled up on the fact
[1:09:35] Speaker 4: that there's 60,000 people watching you get kicked in the face.
[1:09:38] Speaker 4: Like I was asking the, entire bloodline, like going into our,
[1:09:42] Speaker 4: into the, uh, what's it called again? The bot, the
[1:09:45] Speaker 4: golden gem, the crown jewel crown jewel going in the
[1:09:49] Speaker 4: crown jewel event. I'm like, how do you do this?
[1:09:52] Speaker 4: They're like, okay, we're going to, we're going to pull
[1:09:53] Speaker 4: you over. You know, we discussed everything that was going
[1:09:56] Speaker 4: to happen. And I'm like, how do I get, how
[1:09:59] Speaker 4: do I properly get kicked in the face? Like, how
[1:10:01] Speaker 4: does that happen? Exactly. And he's like, he's like, no, no, no, don't, no, no, don't,
[1:10:05] Speaker 4: don't even, don't worry about it. And I'm like, no, but, Like,
[1:10:09] Speaker 4: how do I get kicked in the fucking face, bro?
[1:10:12] Speaker 4: And he's like, trust me, when it happens, you'll get it. And, dude,
[1:10:16] Speaker 4: I obviously looked like a rock.
[1:10:18] Speaker 2: It worked.
[1:10:19] Speaker 4: It worked for me as, like, a funny human. It worked.
[1:10:22] Speaker 4: And Georgie did an even better job. But in reality,
[1:10:25] Speaker 4: you just simply get kicked in the face.
[1:10:27] Speaker 2: Like, there's no other.
[1:10:28] Speaker 4: You catch shots, though. Yeah.
[1:10:30] Speaker 2: It's fucked.
[1:10:31] Speaker 4: And then you just hit the ground as hard as
[1:10:33] Speaker 4: you could ever imagine. It's just like falling onto a
[1:10:35] Speaker 4: plywood floor. But you don't feel it until 22 minutes later.
[1:10:39] Speaker 6: Right.
[1:10:42] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense?
[1:10:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, man. Because, like, I've always watched
[1:10:46] Speaker 3: it and just thought, like, surely, like, when Batista's doing
[1:10:48] Speaker 3: a Batista bomb that hard, like, surely he's not actually
[1:10:51] Speaker 3: doing that. But, like, anyone that I've spoken to, it's like, yeah,
[1:10:54] Speaker 3: that is just what it is.
[1:10:55] Speaker 4: It's a hardwood floor. And, yeah, and you, I think,
[1:10:58] Speaker 4: to his point, as you go on, you just get
[1:11:00] Speaker 4: so much better at the technique. There's probably... like little tiny,
[1:11:04] Speaker 4: almost areas that you're landing specifically on where you're evenly
[1:11:08] Speaker 4: distributing weight between your shoulder, your forearm, your butt. You
[1:11:11] Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? And like, for me, obviously it
[1:11:13] Speaker 4: was just a straight shot.
[1:11:14] Speaker 3: But like regarding technique, like, would you say that you
[1:11:17] Speaker 3: can judge like good technique? Like you could see someone
[1:11:20] Speaker 3: like wrestle and be like, that's good or that's bad.
[1:11:22] Speaker 2: Just from watching.
[1:11:23] Speaker 6: Okay.
[1:11:23] Speaker 3: Well, can I show you a little something? We can
[1:11:26] Speaker 3: send this to you guys and we can put this
[1:11:27] Speaker 3: on screen if you like. Um, obviously over Christmas, I
[1:11:31] Speaker 3: made a little, a little Tik Tok.
[1:11:33] Speaker 2: Right?
[1:11:33] Speaker 3: Called POV Your Cousin is Over for Christmas. Right? I
[1:11:39] Speaker 3: just want to see what you think of this.
[1:11:42] Speaker 2: Oh, there's a shit signal in here.
[1:11:45] Speaker 4: Oh, classic signal issue. Happens to all of us.
[1:11:49] Speaker 1: We may have to maybe let it buffer or something first.
[1:11:53] Speaker 4: But also just show us because we're going to put
[1:11:54] Speaker 4: it on the screen. So you don't have to show them.
[1:11:57] Speaker 2: Oh, that's true.
[1:11:59] Speaker 4: Classic scenario right here. Just bad service.
[1:12:02] Speaker 3: All right, boom.
[1:12:03] Speaker 4: All right.
[1:12:08] Speaker 3: I saw this.
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: I actually remember seeing this. Bro, why don't you wrestle?
[1:12:15] Speaker 4: Oh, the wreath.
[1:12:20] Speaker 2: Bro, this is amazing. Pedigree? Who's... Is that your cousin? No,
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: it's my friend Elliot.
[1:12:33] Speaker 4: Would you consider sending that to Triple H?
[1:12:35] Speaker 3: Bro, Triple H.
[1:12:38] Speaker 2: Bro, this is amazing. This is amazing.
[1:12:44] Speaker 4: Oh, the brass knuckles.
[1:12:45] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Hitting the head with the dustbin.
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: Bro, we fucked this move, though. This is.
[1:12:51] Speaker 2: Oh, that's a broken neck. He's dead.
[1:12:54] Speaker 3: No, he's actually dead.
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, you're in.
[1:13:00] Speaker 4: You're in, dude. You're in.
[1:13:01] Speaker 3: Fucking stacked it. But yeah, man, like... I don't understand.
[1:13:05] Speaker 2: Why don't you wrestle?
[1:13:06] Speaker 3: I would love to. I genuinely would love to. So it's...
[1:13:10] Speaker 3: I don't know whether I had the thought of doing, like,
[1:13:12] Speaker 3: the indie circuit and doing it, like, the respective way.
[1:13:14] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[1:13:15] Speaker 3: And, like, documenting that, and then hopefully one day WWE
[1:13:18] Speaker 3: are like, fucking hell, you're killing it in this indie scene.
[1:13:21] Speaker 4: Let's get you in.
[1:13:23] Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I'd love to. I'd honestly love to.
[1:13:26] Speaker 1: Dude, if you trained, there's no reason why you couldn't
[1:13:29] Speaker 1: do it. Especially because you have a social following.
[1:13:32] Speaker 2: And you can talk.
[1:13:34] Speaker 3: Bro, that's the thing. I think I'd be a good heel.
[1:13:36] Speaker 3: You would.
[1:13:37] Speaker 1: That's the thing a lot of these wrestlers don't have
[1:13:39] Speaker 1: is the ability to speak on the mic. That seems
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: to be the magic part of wrestling where your character
[1:13:46] Speaker 1: takes it to that next level.
[1:13:47] Speaker 3: How do you feel being a heel?
[1:13:49] Speaker 2: Because I feel like... Best thing ever.
[1:13:50] Speaker 3: But at first... Everyone booing you like that. I could
[1:13:53] Speaker 3: see in your eyes. You're like, oh.
[1:13:55] Speaker 2: It bothered me.
[1:13:56] Speaker 3: Why don't you like me?
[1:13:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, it bothered me.
[1:13:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, it bothered me.
[1:13:58] Speaker 2: I remember there's a guy named Bruce Prichard.
[1:14:00] Speaker 6: Right.
[1:14:01] Speaker 2: I don't know if you know him. Nope. He's a
[1:14:03] Speaker 2: WWE executive. He's been around forever.
[1:14:05] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:14:05] Speaker 2: Legend.
[1:14:05] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: He's in every WWE documentary you've ever seen. He's saying
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: something about something at some point.
[1:14:10] Speaker 2: Right. Went to Cleveland. I was in Cleveland. I had
[1:14:13] Speaker 2: a thing there. Walked out. Everyone fucking booed me.
[1:14:17] Speaker 4: In his hometown.
[1:14:18] Speaker 2: In my hometown.
[1:14:19] Speaker 4: I went backstage to Bruce.
[1:14:20] Speaker 2: I was like... He was crying.
[1:14:21] Speaker 1: I go, did they understand that I could get out
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: of that ring and pull any single one of them
[1:14:26] Speaker 1: out and beat the fucking shit out of anyone of
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: any age and gender or form?
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: I was pissed. It hurt my feelings.
[1:14:35] Speaker 1: I got booed in my hometown.
[1:14:38] Speaker 2: And then he made a comment about Cleveland. He's like, well,
[1:14:40] Speaker 2: you know, it is Cleveland. Like, no one... What is
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: this place? And that offended me. I was set.
[1:14:47] Speaker 1: And then something happened where a flip was switched when
[1:14:51] Speaker 1: I realized how much power there was in being able
[1:14:54] Speaker 1: to puppeteer and really artfully essentially manipulate the crowd to
[1:15:02] Speaker 1: play on the exact emotion you want them to feel.
[1:15:05] Speaker 1: Or not, by the way, because it's a dance. And
[1:15:07] Speaker 1: sometimes they're fucking with me. And they're, they're, they're booing
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: me out of the building. It's sometimes harder to get
[1:15:13] Speaker 1: through my promos. Other times I, I, I, I diss
[1:15:16] Speaker 1: one of their favorite superstars or the city in general.
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: Like I found so much pleasure in it. And truthfully,
[1:15:25] Speaker 2: at this point, I can never imagine being a baby face.
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: I have no interest.
[1:15:29] Speaker 4: I am.
[1:15:29] Speaker 2: I am in my pocket out there at the moment.
[1:15:32] Speaker 4: I love it.
[1:15:32] Speaker 3: No, you can see that you, you like now you fucking,
[1:15:35] Speaker 3: the way you have them in the palm of your hand,
[1:15:36] Speaker 3: the way it's almost a bit like, like seeing Dominic Mysterio,
[1:15:39] Speaker 3: like do it as well. It's kind of like, you
[1:15:41] Speaker 3: can see like now this level of almost like control
[1:15:44] Speaker 3: that I have.
[1:15:46] Speaker 4: Fuck me.
[1:15:46] Speaker 3: This is feeding me way more than if I was
[1:15:48] Speaker 3: just trying to be everyone's like nice guy.
[1:15:50] Speaker 4: It does.
[1:15:50] Speaker 3: I feel like the nice guy thing, it's a little
[1:15:52] Speaker 3: bit limiting. I feel like Cody Rhodes. He's limited by
[1:15:54] Speaker 3: being a nice guy.
[1:15:56] Speaker 4: Oh, dude, dude.
[1:15:57] Speaker 2: If he ever turns heel, can you imagine?
[1:15:59] Speaker 3: I think it would be incredible.
[1:16:02] Speaker 2: It would be amazing, dude.
[1:16:05] Speaker 1: Selfishly, I like the Cena heel turn for that reason
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: as well.
[1:16:09] Speaker 3: I mean, seeing John Cena do it, how did you
[1:16:12] Speaker 3: feel about that? Seeing that?
[1:16:13] Speaker 2: How do you feel about it?
[1:16:15] Speaker 3: I felt like it was coming.
[1:16:17] Speaker 4: You did?
[1:16:18] Speaker 3: I felt like it was coming. I felt like the
[1:16:21] Speaker 3: way he was acting in these press conferences and the
[1:16:23] Speaker 3: way he was towards the Royal Rumble, it was almost
[1:16:25] Speaker 3: like he was purposefully coming... Not cringe, but it was like...
[1:16:31] Speaker 3: over-dramatizing something. It just, something felt like he's about to switch.
[1:16:35] Speaker 4: Interesting.
[1:16:36] Speaker 3: Something's about to change. And then when he did that,
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: it was like, right.
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: Interesting.
[1:16:40] Speaker 3: And I love it. I actually love it because it's
[1:16:42] Speaker 3: showing his ability to not just be that nice guy,
[1:16:46] Speaker 3: that fucking like American hero, you know? I really like it.
[1:16:49] Speaker 3: I think for his final year, like, fuck yeah.
[1:16:52] Speaker 4: Like, I love it.
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: Man, it's almost a shame because it's like, I kind
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: of wish we had more than just his last.
[1:16:58] Speaker 2: Year of being a heel, seeing a heel change. Man,
[1:17:01] Speaker 2: the possibilities are endless.
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: It was cool to see him come to what I
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: call the bright side and join us here on the
[1:17:08] Speaker 1: villain side of things.
[1:17:10] Speaker 2: I did not see that coming at all.
[1:17:12] Speaker 1: I didn't read that writing on the wall like that.
[1:17:14] Speaker 1: He just backstabbed me, and so I basically was like,
[1:17:16] Speaker 1: fuck you. I knew he was a snake, but I
[1:17:19] Speaker 1: didn't think he was going to snake the whole WWE audience.
[1:17:22] Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I do like as obviously technically you're
[1:17:25] Speaker 3: all on the same team do you know what's about
[1:17:27] Speaker 3: to happen or does it just happen and you're.
[1:17:29] Speaker 1: Surprised no yeah really yeah I don't yeah bro I'm
[1:17:32] Speaker 1: I'm this is the best part about it we watch
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: as if as fans.
[1:17:37] Speaker 2: Really in real time I'm not along for the.
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: Ride like everyone else it's sick bro product's good.
[1:17:42] Speaker 3: How long are you doing this just indefinitely is this
[1:17:44] Speaker 3: like is this you.
[1:17:45] Speaker 2: Know you're a WWE superstar yeah yeah for now yeah it's.
[1:17:49] Speaker 3: Cool bro And you want to go right to the top.
[1:17:51] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:17:51] Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah.
[1:17:53] Speaker 3: Because I think you've got everything.
[1:17:55] Speaker 4: Thanks, dude.
[1:17:55] Speaker 3: You've literally got everything. The moves that you're pulling off, already, bruv.
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: I think I've got to be smarter, though.
[1:18:02] Speaker 3: Because, yeah, I agree with that. Because I think I
[1:18:05] Speaker 3: heard The Undertaker telling you that you're setting the bar
[1:18:08] Speaker 3: for your performance and what people are going to expect.
[1:18:11] Speaker 3: Very high and very high risk.
[1:18:13] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:18:13] Speaker 3: And it's like, how do you reign that in? Because
[1:18:16] Speaker 3: Stone Cold Steve Austin was so successful, but he didn't.
[1:18:20] Speaker 3: His moves weren't overly high risk. And he, obviously, his
[1:18:23] Speaker 3: personality shone through. Like, do you plan on making the
[1:18:27] Speaker 3: moves less the important thing and more maybe your personality
[1:18:31] Speaker 3: on the mic?
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: My intelligent answer is yeah, for sure. I'm going to
[1:18:35] Speaker 1: pull back a little bit. My realistic answer is no.
[1:18:38] Speaker 4: No.
[1:18:39] Speaker 3: Because I can imagine you're addicted to that fucking feeling
[1:18:42] Speaker 3: of like, I've just done something insane and that place
[1:18:44] Speaker 3: has gone crazy. It's all over social media. Everyone goes
[1:18:48] Speaker 3: nuts whenever you do it.
[1:18:48] Speaker 2: Bro, it's about moments. yeah it's about moments and I'll
[1:18:51] Speaker 2: have really like heavy.
[1:18:55] Speaker 1: Detailed in depth story moments I will yeah but the
[1:19:00] Speaker 1: moves are so sick they're so sick bro like hitting
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: a move that hasn't been done in the WWE before
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: bro I can feel my balls dragging on the floor.
[1:19:09] Speaker 2: You got to have big balls for some of those moves.
[1:19:13] Speaker 2: And I'm capable. I'm capable.
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: And that's the thing. In my head, I go, I
[1:19:20] Speaker 1: know I can do this physically. I thrive under the pressure.
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: If not me, who else? Because there will be someone
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: else that will do it. But I'd like to be
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: the first.
[1:19:32] Speaker 3: Do you think speed is going to wrestle?
[1:19:34] Speaker 2: No. I think he should.
[1:19:35] Speaker 3: I think he should as well.
[1:19:36] Speaker 2: I think he should.
[1:19:37] Speaker 3: Because like that's what you're saying that if someone else,
[1:19:39] Speaker 3: you know, he's that someone else that's athletic as hell
[1:19:43] Speaker 3: that could come in. And if you're not willing to
[1:19:45] Speaker 3: do these crazy moves, he might.
[1:19:46] Speaker 2: No, he's got bigger balls than me.
[1:19:47] Speaker 3: You reckon?
[1:19:48] Speaker 2: I do.
[1:19:49] Speaker 3: You reckon he's going to do crazy moves?
[1:19:50] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And when I saw him jump those two supercars.
[1:19:54] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: Bro, what the fuck?
[1:19:58] Speaker 3: Bro.
[1:19:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:19:59] Speaker 3: What the fuck?
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: No, I think he's the first person like in history
[1:20:03] Speaker 1: to actually do that. I've done it on a vlog,
[1:20:07] Speaker 1: but I was standing to the side of the car
[1:20:10] Speaker 1: like Kobe did it.
[1:20:11] Speaker 2: We all... It wasn't real. Speed actually did it.
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: When I saw him do that, bro, I was like, yo,
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: this kid is operating on another level.
[1:20:22] Speaker 2: And I think he's in some ways more athletic.
[1:20:26] Speaker 4: Than me as well.
[1:20:28] Speaker 2: And he can talk, man.
[1:20:29] Speaker 1: If he wanted to be the biggest WWE superstar, he could.
[1:20:32] Speaker 2: But he's... he's killing it, bro. He could do anything.
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: He could do anything and he'll be fine.
[1:20:37] Speaker 3: But like, do you not think all of us a
[1:20:38] Speaker 3: little bit like, cause we can do anything. Like most
[1:20:41] Speaker 3: of us, like JJ, you have seen Jake, like me,
[1:20:44] Speaker 3: like we've dipped our toes in so many different things.
[1:20:46] Speaker 3: And it's like, do you feel like you want to
[1:20:49] Speaker 3: actually do everything or like.
[1:20:52] Speaker 2: Not, not anymore.
[1:20:53] Speaker 1: I was kind of, I was kind of experimenting a
[1:20:55] Speaker 1: little bit, you know, it's like, like I think people
[1:20:57] Speaker 1: should go out and do a lot. And if they
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: find something that clicks run with it at 27 years old,
[1:21:04] Speaker 1: was doing WrestleMania, came back to the locker room, and
[1:21:06] Speaker 1: something clicked.
[1:21:07] Speaker 3: And I went, oh. This is it.
[1:21:09] Speaker 1: Man, after my first WrestleMania, I came backstage, and I
[1:21:14] Speaker 1: was still like, I didn't know shit at the time.
[1:21:16] Speaker 2: And Vince McMahon is like freaking out. And he shakes
[1:21:20] Speaker 2: my hand. He's like, your future is here. And I'm like, okay, buddy.
[1:21:25] Speaker 2: We'll see about that, dude.
[1:21:26] Speaker 4: Thanks.
[1:21:27] Speaker 2: That was fun.
[1:21:28] Speaker 4: Cool.
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: And then, you know, Three, four years later, I'm like, oh,
[1:21:33] Speaker 1: I see what he meant. Like, I get it now.
[1:21:36] Speaker 2: He was right.
[1:21:37] Speaker 1: He saw something that I didn't even realize until two,
[1:21:41] Speaker 1: three years in.
[1:21:42] Speaker 2: I was like, oh, shit. I think I'm meant for this.
[1:21:44] Speaker 2: I'm just going to fucking run it.
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: Keep going, bro. It's unreal seeing what you're doing.
[1:21:49] Speaker 2: See you in London, bro, on the 30th.
[1:21:52] Speaker 3: So you're wrestling there?
[1:21:53] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[1:21:54] Speaker 3: Because on WrestleMania documentaries, I've seen that like, oh yeah,
[1:21:57] Speaker 3: today they've decided that Undertaker's going to lose his streak today.
[1:22:02] Speaker 4: Yes.
[1:22:02] Speaker 3: On WrestleMania day.
[1:22:04] Speaker 4: What?
[1:22:05] Speaker 1: Because you have to understand, the WWE is a living,
[1:22:09] Speaker 1: breathing organism.
[1:22:10] Speaker 6: Right.
[1:22:10] Speaker 2: And a big, if not all, of that organism, the
[1:22:14] Speaker 2: whole part, is the audience. The audience. What do they want?
[1:22:18] Speaker 2: What do you think they don't want? What will they expect?
[1:22:20] Speaker 2: What won't they expect? You gotta adapt.
[1:22:23] Speaker 1: You gotta roll with the punches and the ability to
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: do that every Monday and every Friday on SmackDown and
[1:22:31] Speaker 1: Raw and then you sprinkle in your Saturday PLEs and
[1:22:33] Speaker 1: the live events. The WWE is a very well organized
[1:22:37] Speaker 1: machine and you have to be able to pivot and
[1:22:41] Speaker 1: move on the fly. It's insane and I mean this
[1:22:47] Speaker 1: wholeheartedly and it's unfortunate i don't think the scope of
[1:22:54] Speaker 1: wwe and the depth and complexity of the work that
[1:22:58] Speaker 1: is going into this company will ever fully be realized
[1:23:01] Speaker 1: ever i i think it's impossible to fully understand by
[1:23:05] Speaker 1: any lay human Yeah, I mean.
[1:23:08] Speaker 3: The way it's lasted so long, it's got to be
[1:23:11] Speaker 3: more than just guys getting in a ring wrestling about,
[1:23:13] Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: People have no idea.
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: It's the reason it's a top 10 subscribed YouTube channel.
[1:23:18] Speaker 2: What the fuck?
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest media conglomerates in the entire world.
[1:23:23] Speaker 3: What do we even.
[1:23:25] Speaker 2: Man, it's the best job ever. I'll be honest. You
[1:23:26] Speaker 2: got to wrestle, Joe. Got to get in there, brother.
[1:23:29] Speaker 3: Triple threat match.
[1:23:30] Speaker 4: Let's get another match.
[1:23:32] Speaker 2: Indie circuit. Indie circuit, guy.
[1:23:34] Speaker 3: Let's do it.
[1:23:35] Speaker 2: In a year's time... I'll see you on NXT. Let's
[1:23:38] Speaker 2: fucking go, bro. Will I see you in the Simon
[1:23:41] Speaker 2: Charity match?
[1:23:41] Speaker 3: Yes, I wanted to ask you about that. You're playing, right?
[1:23:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck yeah. Do you play football? No. No, you're
[1:23:47] Speaker 2: on my team.
[1:23:49] Speaker 4: Wait, you played football?
[1:23:50] Speaker 2: Yes, you're on my team.
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: Oh, I played American football.
[1:23:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, shit.
[1:23:54] Speaker 3: But you never played soccer?
[1:23:56] Speaker 2: Soccer, no.
[1:23:57] Speaker 3: You never played?
[1:23:58] Speaker 4: No.
[1:23:58] Speaker 2: No, I mean, I played when I was younger. I
[1:24:00] Speaker 2: scored seven goals in my first game.
[1:24:01] Speaker 3: Oh, shit. Oh, so you were good then?
[1:24:03] Speaker 2: Well, I was six. Oh.
[1:24:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're an athlete. You'll get it done.
[1:24:06] Speaker 2: Bro, trust me. I'll kick that fucking ball into the net.
[1:24:09] Speaker 2: How hard can it be, dude?
[1:24:10] Speaker 3: We should do like a celebration. Like if we score,
[1:24:14] Speaker 3: it should be like some sort of move.
[1:24:16] Speaker 2: That's such a good idea. Let's think about that.
[1:24:20] Speaker 4: Body slam each other.
[1:24:21] Speaker 3: Like you can fucking suplex me onto the pitch if you.
[1:24:26] Speaker 2: Want.
[1:24:26] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:24:26] Speaker 4: Would you do it?
[1:24:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd take that.
[1:24:27] Speaker 3: Obviously.
[1:24:29] Speaker 4: Obviously.
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: It would hurt.
[1:24:32] Speaker 3: No, it'd be fine. It'd be fine. It'd be fine.
[1:24:36] Speaker 2: I'm down if you are.
[1:24:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're allowed to do that, like, WWE wouldn't
[1:24:39] Speaker 3: be like, don't do that shit. Yeah, like, when I score,
[1:24:42] Speaker 3: I'll run straight to you. Fucking you German sweet fucks, yeah?
[1:24:46] Speaker 6: Okay. No, no, no. No?
[1:24:47] Speaker 2: Not a German.
[1:24:48] Speaker 4: Not a German? No, no, no.
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: The one where it's like.
[1:24:56] Speaker 2: No, I don't think.
[1:24:56] Speaker 3: Nope.
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: Hold on.
[1:24:59] Speaker 3: You're in here.
[1:25:00] Speaker 2: Head over.
[1:25:01] Speaker 3: Right, so this one.
[1:25:02] Speaker 2: Boom.
[1:25:03] Speaker 3: And then.
[1:25:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[1:25:04] Speaker 3: That one. Yeah.
[1:25:04] Speaker 4: That's a German?
[1:25:05] Speaker 3: Is that not a German?
[1:25:06] Speaker 2: I thought German was from behind.
[1:25:08] Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
[1:25:10] Speaker 2: We'll do that one.
[1:25:11] Speaker 3: We'll do that one.
[1:25:11] Speaker 4: That one's quite easy. Boom.
[1:25:14] Speaker 3: Boom.
[1:25:15] Speaker 2: And I'll just... We have to do it.
[1:25:18] Speaker 4: We have to do it, bro.
[1:25:19] Speaker 2: We have to do it. It'd be sick. Oh, I
[1:25:21] Speaker 2: got a score.
[1:25:22] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: One of us scores. Bro, if that's not a German suplex,
[1:25:26] Speaker 2: I'm going to get fucking roasted.
[1:25:27] Speaker 4: Somebody in Germany is going to be pissed.
[1:25:29] Speaker 2: Fuck.
[1:25:31] Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
[1:25:33] Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
[1:25:34] Speaker 3: And then I was just like, I'll KO you after
[1:25:36] Speaker 3: that or some shit.
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: When you're behind them and you go over the top. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. Okay. Yeah,
[1:25:41] Speaker 2: we'll do a regular ass suplex. Bro, Joe, let's fucking go.
[1:25:44] Speaker 3: Let's do that.
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: That'll go crazy.
[1:25:47] Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:25:47] Speaker 3: That'll be sick.
[1:25:48] Speaker 2: You play football, soccer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:25:49] Speaker 4: You're good?
[1:25:51] Speaker 3: Well, I used to play for an academy when I
[1:25:52] Speaker 3: was younger. Got kicked off for being too fat.
[1:25:55] Speaker 2: What the fuck?
[1:25:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, man. It fucking scarred me. So I was like,
[1:25:57] Speaker 3: all right, watch this then.
[1:25:58] Speaker 1: YouTuber.
[1:25:58] Speaker 3: YouTuber. And now I'm playing at Wembley stadium in front
[1:26:01] Speaker 3: of 90,000. So I'm like, I'm gassed. I'm yeah. It's
[1:26:05] Speaker 3: going to, that's going to be a fucking dream. Like
[1:26:06] Speaker 3: 90,000 people. What's the biggest audience you've done? Like wrestling.
[1:26:10] Speaker 2: We were talking about it today. Not that big.
[1:26:11] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: 80, maybe 80, 80, maybe pretty close.
[1:26:15] Speaker 3: That's pretty close. But like, yeah, 95. And these are
[1:26:18] Speaker 3: all going to be hardcore, like sidemen fans, like feed
[1:26:22] Speaker 3: scores in that stadium. That place is going to be
[1:26:24] Speaker 3: the loudest it's ever been.
[1:26:26] Speaker 2: We, we were talking about this. It, Potentially the loudest Sue.
[1:26:31] Speaker 4: Yeah, Sue. Yeah, man.
[1:26:32] Speaker 3: It's going to be wild.
[1:26:33] Speaker 4: Fuck.
[1:26:35] Speaker 2: All right, bro. I'll see you on Saturday.
[1:26:36] Speaker 4: See you there, brother.
[1:26:37] Speaker 2: Hit that fucking suplex.
[1:26:38] Speaker 1: If you're not on the field, we got to find
[1:26:42] Speaker 1: each other.
[1:26:45] Speaker 2: That's sick. Joe, it's been a pleasure, dude. Legend.
[1:26:48] Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, boy.
[1:26:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for coming on, man. What are you doing next?
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: Where can they find you?
[1:26:53] Speaker 4: Rainforest.
[1:26:54] Speaker 3: The Amazon rainforest. I want to go back there for sure.
[1:26:56] Speaker 3: But obviously, yeah, socials, YouTube channel, Joe Weller, podcast, waffling podcast.
[1:27:01] Speaker 3: Got to get you on waffling at some point. That'd
[1:27:03] Speaker 3: be sick. Excellent. But yeah, across all socials.
[1:27:07] Speaker 4: Or in Thailand.
[1:27:07] Speaker 3: Or in Thailand. No massage parlors, Michael.
[1:27:12] Speaker 2: Put you there.
[1:27:12] Speaker 3: All right.
[1:27:12] Speaker 2: We love you guys. Thank you for watching this episode
[1:27:14] Speaker 2: of Apoth... Whatever.
[1:27:15] Speaker 4: Bye.
[1:27:15] Speaker 6: Class.

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