# Classic Suze School: Are You Attracted to, or Repelled by Your Money?

An episode of [Suze Orman's Women & Money (And Everyone Smart Enough To Listen)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1439621652), 23 Jul 2026, 16 min.

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## Transcript

[0:07] Robert: July 23rd, 2026. Welcome to the Women and Money podcast
[0:12] Robert: as well as everyone smart enough to listen. Hi, everybody, Robert,
[0:16] Robert: the producer here. For today's classic Suze School, we'll go
[0:20] Robert: back to November of 2023 and take on the question
[0:24] Robert: of do we attract or do we repel money.
[0:28] Robert: We'll have a brand new Ask KT and Suze Anything
[0:31] Robert: episode for you this coming Sunday. And remember, if you'd
[0:34] Robert: like to ask a question for the podcast, all you
[0:36] Robert: have to do is email it to podcast@askSuze.com. That's A
[0:41] Robert: S K S U Z E.com, or you can ask
[0:45] Robert: it in the Women and Money Community app, which of
[0:48] Robert: course you can download for free at Apple Apps or
[0:51] Robert: Google Play.
[0:52] Robert: And now... here's Suze.
[0:58] Suze: It was many, many years ago.
[1:02] Suze: And I decided to do an experiment.
[1:06] Suze: And I had somebody gather a whole bunch of red roses,
[1:12] Suze: single red roses.
[1:14] Suze: And this was in New York, and they went onto
[1:18] Suze: the streets, and they were to offer strangers, as they
[1:24] Suze: were walking by a red rose, just one red rose.
[1:31] Suze: And as I was watching this person was offering red roses,
[1:36] Suze: and one person would take it, another person would come along,
[1:41] Suze: that person would take it, and before you knew it,
[1:46] Suze: all of the roses, I think she had two dozen.
[1:50] Suze: All of them were gone.
[1:54] Suze: The next part of the experiment was, that she had
[1:59] Suze: approximately 24 $1 bills, OK, same amount of bills that
[2:07] Suze: she had as roses, and she stood in essentially the
[2:11] Suze: exact same spot.
[2:13] Suze: And as people walked by, she offered them a $1 bill.
[2:20] Suze: How many do you think took it?
[2:24] Suze: One person passed, did not take it. Another person passed,
[2:29] Suze: did not take it.
[2:31] Suze: After approximately 30 minutes of her standing there, not one person,
[2:39] Suze: and in New York, a lot of people pass you
[2:42] Suze: in a 30 minute period of time. Not one person
[2:48] Suze: took the dollar bill. I want you to think about
[2:51] Suze: this for a second.
[2:53] Suze: In a relatively shorter amount of time, 24 people took,
[2:57] Suze: a rose, and smiled.
[3:00] Suze: In a little bit longer period of time, 30 minutes,
[3:05] Suze: not one person took a dollar, and I was just
[3:11] Suze: flipped out about that. I have to tell you, I
[3:14] Suze: talked about it everywhere I went, when I gave a talk.
[3:18] Suze: I just didn't understand it.
[3:22] Suze: But then I started to realize, people don't like to
[3:26] Suze: talk about money, people don't like to touch money, people
[3:32] Suze: think that something's wrong with somebody who's giving a dollar away.
[3:38] Suze: But they'll take something that that $1 would buy, such
[3:41] Suze: as a rose, and that they're willing to take.
[3:47] Suze: And so many of us in our lives are like
[3:51] Suze: that with money whether we know it or not. We
[3:55] Suze: don't mind touching what money can buy. We don't mind
[3:58] Suze: touching those things, whether it's our clothes or our furniture
[4:02] Suze: or our flowers or our gifts or whatever it may be.
[4:07] Suze: We don't mind showing that to everybody and saying, look
[4:10] Suze: what somebody got me. Look at what I just bought
[4:14] Suze: that we don't mind at all.
[4:17] Suze: But yet we don't like to talk about our money.
[4:21] Suze: We don't like to touch our money. We don't like
[4:24] Suze: to say to somebody, Oh, look at how much money
[4:27] Suze: I just made. Look at what I have, even though
[4:30] Suze: the couch that you may be sitting on may have
[4:33] Suze: cost you a whole bunch of money.
[4:37] Suze: That's not how you see it. All you see it
[4:40] Suze: as things. So when something becomes a thing, when money
[4:45] Suze: turns into a thing that has been purchased, then you
[4:50] Suze: will talk about it and touch it. But when money
[4:53] Suze: is just money, you tend to stray away from it.
[4:59] Suze: What is that about everybody?
[5:02] Suze: Think about in your own lives, and by the way,
[5:05] Suze: take out your Suzie notebooks, you are so going to
[5:07] Suze: need it today.
[5:10] Suze: Think about that, everybody. What is it about money, your
[5:16] Suze: money that you work for?
[5:19] Suze: That you spend hours, maybe 40, 50, 60, 70, 80
[5:23] Suze: hours a week working for, why is it that you
[5:27] Suze: don't want to touch it, pay attention to it, or
[5:30] Suze: anything like that?
[5:33] Suze: If you have your Suze notebook out, that is the
[5:37] Suze: question at hand.
[5:39] Suze: So what is it about money that repels you? Answer
[5:44] Suze: that question.
[5:47] Suze: And if the answer to that question is nothing, then
[5:50] Suze: I want you to answer the question, what is it
[5:54] Suze: about money that attracts you? Now, maybe you need to understand, well,
[6:00] Suze: how do I even know if money repels me?
[6:03] Suze: Do you look at your statements? Do you open your
[6:06] Suze: credit card bills right away?
[6:08] Suze: Do you make sure that the dollars, if you have
[6:11] Suze: any of them in your wallets or the $5 bills
[6:14] Suze: or the 10s, that they're all facing the same way?
[6:18] Suze: Do you wait 'till the last minute to pay your taxes?
[6:22] Suze: Do you look at your statements to see what you
[6:25] Suze: have in your 401ks or your Roth IRAs?
[6:30] Suze: Do you pay attention to things like that when you're
[6:33] Suze: watching the news and it's a money segment, do you
[6:36] Suze: turn it off?
[6:38] Suze: So many people used to say to me, Suze, I
[6:41] Suze: like you, but I just can't watch your show. This
[6:43] Suze: is when I was on CNBC and I would say,
[6:45] Suze: and why is that? They say, I just can't deal
[6:49] Suze: with money. I see you and I freak out.
[6:53] Suze: Obviously, I'm known as the money maiden, the money lady,
[6:57] Suze: whatever it is that you wanna call me. So when
[7:00] Suze: you see me, you think about money.
[7:04] Suze: And for those of you who can't stand watching me,
[7:08] Suze: it has nothing to do with me, whether you know
[7:11] Suze: it or not.
[7:12] Suze: It has to do with your repulsion of money, your
[7:17] Suze: inability to deal with it.
[7:20] Suze: If that happens to be you, can you write down
[7:24] Suze: what is it?
[7:26] Suze: About money that repels you. On the other hand, if
[7:31] Suze: you're attracted to it, and what do I mean by that.
[7:36] Suze: I mean, that you see a financial segment, and you
[7:39] Suze: like to watch it. You hear about the markets, and
[7:42] Suze: you like to listen to it. You like to make
[7:46] Suze: sure that your money, your dollars, and your $5 bills,
[7:49] Suze: and $10 bills are all lined up in the right order.
[7:52] Suze: You like to look at your statements. You would like
[7:56] Suze: to look at what your individual stocks are doing or
[7:59] Suze: whatever it may be.
[8:01] Suze: You spend time making sure that you know that you
[8:05] Suze: do not have so much money sitting in a bank
[8:08] Suze: account today, maybe making 0.5% interest or whatever it is
[8:13] Suze: they're paying you. You take the time to take that
[8:16] Suze: money out of a bank account and put it somewhere
[8:21] Suze: that's making a whole lot more interest.
[8:25] Suze: You're actually attracted to dealing with money.
[8:31] Suze: To dealing with the facts about it, to knowing what
[8:34] Suze: are the limits for a Roth IRA or this or that,
[8:38] Suze: anything like that.
[8:41] Suze: So, if that's you, write down what attracts you to money.
[8:49] Suze: Because the answer to that question. Whether it's repelling or
[8:56] Suze: attracting isn't about money.
[9:00] Suze: It's about you.
[9:04] Suze: You know, I have always told you that money is
[9:07] Suze: just a physical manifestation of who you are.
[9:13] Suze: You're the one who works for it, you're the one
[9:16] Suze: who earns it, you're the one who saves it, invests it.
[9:20] Suze: Money can't do anything without you. So if you are
[9:23] Suze: repelled by your money,
[9:26] Suze: There is something about yourself that repels you, that you
[9:32] Suze: don't like, that you're not dealing with.
[9:35] Suze: I just want you to think about that, and if
[9:37] Suze: you are attracted to money, there's something about yourself that
[9:43] Suze: you're attracted to.
[9:45] Suze: Chances are if you're repelled from money, you may also
[9:51] Suze: have what I call a lack of self-worth.
[9:55] Suze: And I will forever believe that self-worth equals net worth.
[10:03] Suze: And as you get older, and you're dealing with money,
[10:07] Suze: you know, it's very easy when you're younger, and I
[10:10] Suze: think I told you this before, I gave a talk
[10:12] Suze: to some whatever I did to some kids, and in college,
[10:16] Suze: and anyway, that's besides the point, and they took such offense.
[10:22] Suze: To when I said self-worth equals net worth, they said, Suze,
[10:26] Suze: I have self-worth, but I don't have any net worth.
[10:29] Suze: Just cause I don't have money doesn't mean that I
[10:31] Suze: don't have self-worth. Oh, grow up. You're in high school,
[10:35] Suze: you're in college, your parents are paying for you. You
[10:38] Suze: don't have to deal with money.
[10:40] Suze: You don't have to go out and get a job
[10:42] Suze: and pay for everything, and take care of a family,
[10:44] Suze: and deal with money. So, don't talk to me about
[10:48] Suze: that you think you know what you're talking about when
[10:51] Suze: it comes to self-worth and net worth, when you're a teenager,
[10:54] Suze: or somebody else is supporting you. I'm talking about you.
[11:00] Suze: Most of you who listen to the Women and Money podcast,
[11:04] Suze: who work for money, who have to support a family.
[11:09] Suze: Who have to deal with credit card debt and inflation,
[11:13] Suze: and feeding yourself and that because why it is all
[11:17] Suze: on you.
[11:20] Suze: So, if the answer to that question is that money
[11:24] Suze: repels you, then in my book, what that is, is
[11:31] Suze: it's a somehow a lack of self-worth, meaning that you
[11:36] Suze: don't feel that you're worthy enough to know about it,
[11:39] Suze: or you have the ability to know about it, or
[11:41] Suze: to understand it, or to do any of that.
[11:45] Suze: You know, you can listen to KT on these podcasts,
[11:49] Suze: and she cannot know the answers to questions and things
[11:52] Suze: like that, but I am telling you, that woman looks
[11:57] Suze: at every single statement that comes in.
[12:02] Suze: And our statements are very thick. She not only looks
[12:05] Suze: at her own, she looks at mine. And because KT
[12:09] Suze: doesn't like computers, she doesn't do it electronically as I do,
[12:14] Suze: but she does do it. I've come out and I
[12:18] Suze: see her with a stack of papers, and she'll say
[12:20] Suze: to me, Suze Orman, do you know that we lost
[12:23] Suze: x amount of money last month?
[12:25] Suze: Or Suze, why are they charging me $6 a trade?
[12:30] Suze: I thought I didn't have to spend any money for
[12:33] Suze: these trades. She watches every penny.
[12:39] Suze: Miss Travis may not be able to answer certain financial questions,
[12:43] Suze: nor may you, but who cares about that? Eventually she will,
[12:49] Suze: and even if she doesn't, she does have the ability
[12:52] Suze: to look up the correct answers. She is not repelled
[12:56] Suze: from money. She is attracted to money. That is because
[13:01] Suze: she values who she is. She has self-worth. She knows
[13:06] Suze: that money is very important, and she knows that because
[13:09] Suze: she knows that her survival is important and she values
[13:15] Suze: her worth. She values who she is, so she values
[13:19] Suze: all of it.
[13:22] Suze: And so she would be one that would be answering
[13:25] Suze: this question by saying, that, yeah, I'm attracted to money,
[13:32] Suze: dealing with money, learning about money.
[13:36] Suze: So this is a really, really important Suze School, and
[13:41] Suze: I'm sorry if I sound a little harsh this morning,
[13:45] Suze: because it means so much to me.
[13:48] Suze: This is the crux of financial freedom, everybody. This is it.
[13:55] Suze: Once you understand the concept that I am talking to
[13:59] Suze: you about right here and right now.
[14:05] Suze: Then you'll never have as much money truthfully as you
[14:08] Suze: should have.
[14:09] Suze: And possibly you'll never have any money at all. How
[14:14] Suze: sad is that? How sad is it?
[14:18] Suze: That may be you. You're the one who's standing in
[14:23] Suze: the way of being an obstacle to your own wealth,
[14:28] Suze: your own financial independence. It doesn't have to be that way.
[14:36] Suze: That is your Suze School, so...
[14:41] Suze: There's only one thing that I want you to say
[14:44] Suze: every single day, and it goes as follows. Today, wherever
[14:48] Suze: I go, I will create a more loving, peaceful, and
[14:54] Suze: joyful world.
[14:56] Suze: And if you do that, you will be unstoppable. Bye-bye now.

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