# Classic Suze School: Meaning Creates Passion

An episode of [Suze Orman's Women & Money (And Everyone Smart Enough To Listen)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1439621652), 10 Sep 2026, 8:25.

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## Transcript

[0:08] Robert: September 10th, 2026. Welcome to the Women and Money podcast
[0:13] Robert: as well as everyone smart enough to listen. Hi there, Robert,
[0:16] Robert: the producer here. And today we have a, a rather
[0:20] Robert: short Classic Suze School for you.
[0:23] Robert: It's a short work week, so why not a short
[0:25] Robert: podcast episode? This one comes from a Labor Day themed
[0:30] Robert: podcast that we did a few years ago, and the
[0:33] Robert: main point that Suze makes, I think is very relevant today.
[0:38] Robert: So it's going back to the top of your feed.
[0:42] Robert: Suze and KT will be back with an all new
[0:44] Robert: Ask KT and Suze Anything podcast this coming Sunday. Remember,
[0:48] Robert: if you wanna write in and maybe get your question
[0:51] Robert: answered on the pod, send an email to podcast@askSuze.com That's
[0:57] Robert: podcast at A S K S U Z E.com. And now,
[1:03] Robert: here's Suze.
[1:08] Suze: I always think about holidays and what they mean, and
[1:12] Suze: are we celebrating them for the right purposes. So I
[1:16] Suze: always look up the definition of what Labor Day is
[1:22] Suze: a celebration about. And here's what it says. Labor Day
[1:26] Suze: is an annual celebration of the social and economic achievements
[1:31] Suze: of American workers.
[1:35] Suze: And I thought about tha,t and I thought about that,
[1:38] Suze: and I thought about that.
[1:40] Suze: And then I got really sad.
[1:43] Suze: Because I realized the real reason you are celebrating isn't
[1:48] Suze: because you're celebrating your social and economic achievements of what
[1:53] Suze: you have accomplished. It's because you get a Monday off,
[1:57] Suze: which means you don't have to go to work. So,
[2:03] Suze: you are not celebrating your achievements at work. You are
[2:07] Suze: most likely not celebrating the fact that you have a job.
[2:12] Suze: And the reason for that is most likely you are
[2:16] Suze: not happy in your job. When I ask so many
[2:22] Suze: of you, and everywhere I go, I always say to somebody,
[2:25] Suze: I go, What do you do for a living? What
[2:27] Suze: da da da, all those questions that you ask one
[2:30] Suze: another when you don't really know what else to say
[2:32] Suze: to each other.
[2:33] Suze: I always end up asking them, are you happy in
[2:38] Suze: your job?
[2:40] Suze: They normally say to me, no, so I'm asking all
[2:44] Suze: of you right now.
[2:46] Suze: Are you happy in your job? Yes or no?
[2:53] Suze: So, if your answer happened to be no, the next
[2:58] Suze: question that I would ask these people, and you need
[3:01] Suze: to be asking yourself, is, why aren't you happy in
[3:06] Suze: your job?
[3:08] Suze: All right, for those of you who answered no, I
[3:13] Suze: want you to write down why you are not happy
[3:16] Suze: in your job.
[3:18] Suze: For those of you who answered yes, that you are
[3:22] Suze: happy in your job, I want you to write down
[3:27] Suze: why you are happy in your job.
[3:31] Suze: Now I don't know what you're going to write or not,
[3:34] Suze: but the most frequent answer that I would get when
[3:38] Suze: I asked that question was this Oh, Suze, I'm just
[3:44] Suze: not passionate about what I'm doing.
[3:47] Suze: I want to quit my job. I want to find
[3:50] Suze: a job that fulfills my passion.
[3:54] Suze: Any of you write that down?
[3:56] Suze: How many of you have written me and you've said,
[3:58] Suze: you know, Suze, I wanna quit this job that pays
[4:01] Suze: me a whole lot of money, because I wanna find
[4:04] Suze: a job that fulfills my passion. I'm looking to fulfill
[4:09] Suze: my passion.
[4:12] Suze: Hmm
[4:13] Suze: I have to say, I honestly have no idea where
[4:17] Suze: that concept of finding a job that you are passionate
[4:21] Suze: about came from.
[4:24] Suze: And that's what you're looking for, 'cause in my opinion,
[4:27] Suze: that is the worst advice I have ever heard. And
[4:33] Suze: if you've heard that advice, that's the worst advice, in
[4:36] Suze: my opinion, that you have ever heard. Now, why is that?
[4:41] Suze: That's because passion changes all the time.
[4:47] Suze: Not just in what you do, but even who you're
[4:50] Suze: in a relationship with. One day I hear you saying,
[4:54] Suze: I love this person, I love this person. Oh, Suze,
[4:57] Suze: I'm just so passionate about them.
[4:59] Suze: And then a while later you say to me, I
[5:03] Suze: hate this person. There's no passion between us whatsoever.
[5:07] Suze: And then, of course, you end up splitting up.
[5:11] Suze: You know what I'm saying is true. How many relationships
[5:15] Suze: have you been in that it was just so passionate.
[5:19] Suze: And it, was it the passion that you loved?
[5:23] Suze: Or did love create passion? Like, what was it, everybody?
[5:29] Suze: So, I then decided that I would look not only
[5:34] Suze: at my own life but I would look at the
[5:37] Suze: lives inwardly of all the people I worked with over
[5:42] Suze: all my years and what I learned was this they
[5:49] Suze: didn't love their job because they were passionate about what
[5:52] Suze: they did.
[5:54] Suze: They loved what they did because their job gave them meaning.
[6:01] Suze: And because they found meaning in their lives, that created passion.
[6:08] Suze: Passion doesn't create meaning, meaning creates passion.
[6:16] Suze: So the question that all of you need to be
[6:19] Suze: asking yourself is, what would give you meaning in your life?
[6:28] Suze: All right, everybody, that's a question for you. In your
[6:31] Suze: little Suze notebooks, how would you answer that? What would
[6:36] Suze: give you meaning in your life? And it's not just
[6:42] Suze: meaning today.
[6:44] Suze: Because as your life goes on, as your life changes,
[6:49] Suze: as the events in the world change, meaning will also change.
[6:58] Suze: All I ask is for you to think about what
[7:01] Suze: I have just said.
[7:04] Suze: For it's in finding your meaning that really leads to
[7:09] Suze: happiness in your work and in your life, and never
[7:13] Suze: forget meaning.
[7:16] Suze: Today may be different for you 5 years from now
[7:20] Suze: or 20 years from now, so don't be afraid to change.
[7:26] Suze: Please know there's only really one thing that I want
[7:29] Suze: you to say every single day.
[7:33] Suze: And on some level, this also will help give you
[7:37] Suze: meaning in your life.
[7:40] Suze: Today wherever I go I will create a more peaceful, joyful,
[7:48] Suze: and loving world, and if you do that.
[7:52] Suze: I promise you, you will be unstoppable. See you soon.

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