# Interview with a Pretendian | Pretendians #1

An episode of [What Is Happening Here | Canadaland Investigates](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1438924421), 14 May 2024, 38 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/thunder-bay/e/66411f92cede820013c2eb15/media.mp3

Why do people pretend to be Native? Hosts Robert Jago (Kwantlen First Nation and Nooksack Indian Tribe) Angel Ellis (Muscogee (Creek) Nation) begin their journey by asking someone who has been doing just that. He’s not just your average imposter – "Grand Chief" Guillaume Carle is the king of the “pretendians", a French Canadian who made a small fortune creating his own fake First Nation and issuing phony Indian Status Cards to thousands of other identity thieves. Pretendians cannot get made without you. For a limited time, become a Canadaland Supporter for just $2/month and get every episode one week early and ad-free. Sponsors: AG1 Betterhelp You can listen ad-free on Amazon Music—included with Prime. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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