# What it really takes to make change | Jacqueline Novogratz

An episode of [The TED Interview](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1437306870), 20 May 2021, 1 h 00 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/67045b43aa9d704b1e952e88/e/prx_179_01984a8e-08c5-4828-beee-b67703752378/media.mp3

From the strikes that transformed the world's view on climate change to the marches that demanded equity and justice for Black lives, there has been a new awakening of people passionate about creating change. As founder and CEO of Acumen, Jacqueline Novogratz decided early on to dedicate her life's work to doing just that. In this episode, Chris talks to Jacqueline (who he also happens to be married to) about the wisdom she gained from abandoning a lucrative career as a banker to start a nonprofit dedicated to eradicating global poverty, and the moral imagination -- and difficult tradeoffs -- she believes are necessary to make a transformative impact on the world. Can’t get enough TED? Become a member for access to exclusive events, global conversations and more. Join now: go.ted.com/podmembers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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