# Karmelo Anthony Defense Rests. Trump Insults Black Reporter. Iowa Scholarship Win

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 26 Jun 2026, 2 h 07 min.

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6.8.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Karmelo Anthony Defense Rests. Trump Insults Black Reporter. Iowa Scholarship Win _ For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* _ Karmelo's Defense attorneys rested their case today without calling him to testify. Closing arguments are scheduled to begin on Tuesday before the case is eventually handed to the jury for deliberations. Legal Analyst Thelma Anderson will breakdown what happened in the courtroom. A scholarship designed to support Black students pursuing careers in chemistry and the physical sciences is at the center of a recent Iowa Supreme Court decision. For now, the decision blocks the University of Iowa's attempt to change the eligibility criteria for this privately funded award. We'll speak with one of the attorneys involved in the case. The Marshall Project reported at least 47 suicides in solitary confinement across Mississippi prisons between 2015 and 2025. We'll discuss this troubling pattern with one of the reporters who discovered that many inmates had previously requested mental health assistance, only to be placed in restrictive housing instead of receiving the care they needed. Once again, Trump insulted a black female reporter. We'll show you the exchange that made the twice-impeached, criminally convicted felon-in-chief, Donald "The Con" Trump abruptly end the interview with NBC's Meet The Press Moderator, Kristen Welker. Black Star Network Partner: Chapter For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[6:04] Speaker 1: Well to thiss. Monday, June eight, twenty twenty six, coming
[6:07] Speaker 1: up on rollingd Market and Unfiltered streaming live on the
[6:09] Speaker 1: Blackstart Network. I'm live here in Atlanta where war Done
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[6:17] Speaker 1: Will hear from him talking about the great work that
[6:20] Speaker 1: they're doing with the families, putting them into homes, but
[6:23] Speaker 1: also dealing with their physical and mental well being as well.
[6:28] Speaker 1: In Texas, the Carmelo Anthony defense rested without calling him
[6:32] Speaker 1: to testify. It was a difficult day in court when
[6:35] Speaker 1: the jury showed audible gas when they saw gruesome autopsy
[6:41] Speaker 1: photos of the young man that Carmelo Anthony is charged
[6:46] Speaker 1: with killing. Also, today, a federal court rule that people
[6:52] Speaker 1: officials in Iowa cannot repurpose a scholarship specifically meant for
[6:57] Speaker 1: African Americans. Will talk to one of the attorneys involved
[7:00] Speaker 1: in that particular case as well. The Marshall Project reports
[7:04] Speaker 1: at least forty seven suicides in solitary confinement in Mississippi
[7:09] Speaker 1: over a ten year period, and we'll discuss this troubling
[7:13] Speaker 1: pattern that's happening in Mississippi prison. Also, Donald Trump continues
[7:18] Speaker 1: to insult black female journalists, this time walking out of
[7:24] Speaker 1: an interview with NBC's Mick the Press Kristen Welker. The
[7:28] Speaker 1: insults her on his way out as he continues to
[7:32] Speaker 1: advance the lie of election fraud from two thousand and twenty. Folks,
[7:37] Speaker 1: it is time to bring the funk on Rolling Mark
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[8:43] Speaker 1: Folks were now headed for closing arguments in the case
[8:45] Speaker 1: of Carmelo Anthony, the young man who is charged with
[8:48] Speaker 1: murder in Collin County, Texas. The defense today rested without
[8:53] Speaker 1: calling Carmelo to testify. Of course, uh, he is on
[8:57] Speaker 1: trial for the murder of a white team that took
[9:01] Speaker 1: place at a track meet there in Colin County. The
[9:05] Speaker 1: all white jury of eleven women and seven men, they
[9:09] Speaker 1: will decide the fate of this black team. Jordan gus
[9:13] Speaker 1: sud tomorrow Again. Closing arguments will begin on tomorrow. A
[9:17] Speaker 1: legal analyst, Thelma Anderson, has been in Colin County following
[9:21] Speaker 1: this trial, and so get us up to date the
[9:25] Speaker 1: Saturday that the trial took place on Saturday, and then
[9:29] Speaker 1: of course you had the defense taking over and today,
[9:34] Speaker 1: so let's talk about what took place on Saturday, and
[9:37] Speaker 1: then let's talk about what happened today. The prosecution continued
[9:41] Speaker 1: advancing their case on Saturday.
[9:44] Speaker 13: What took place absolutely on Saturday, the stay called their
[9:49] Speaker 13: final witness, one of their final witnesses, which was the
[9:53] Speaker 13: young man who invited Carmelo into the tent, So they
[9:58] Speaker 13: called I think his name is Eddie Para. He's a
[10:01] Speaker 13: student at Memorial with the with the brothers Hunter and Austin,
[10:06] Speaker 13: so they called him. And it was a very explosive
[10:09] Speaker 13: day because he got on their stand and he completely
[10:13] Speaker 13: denied that he knew Carmelo, And it was very weird
[10:17] Speaker 13: that the state would allow one of their main witnesses
[10:20] Speaker 13: to get on the stand and discredit themselves and have
[10:24] Speaker 13: the allow the defense to come in and ruin their
[10:27] Speaker 13: credibility by showing actual pictures of him and Carmelo at
[10:33] Speaker 13: friend gatherings, at family gatherings, and he got on their
[10:36] Speaker 13: stand and denied that he even knew Carmelo, which was
[10:39] Speaker 13: very explosive and very bad for the state.
[10:45] Speaker 7: So that.
[10:48] Speaker 1: Right, okay, go ahead.
[10:52] Speaker 13: That was one of the pivotal moments that happened on
[10:56] Speaker 13: the state side. And then they ended up resting right
[10:59] Speaker 13: after the defense completely ruined his credibility. And so once
[11:04] Speaker 13: they rested, then the defense started their case, which defense
[11:07] Speaker 13: ended up calling a state witness who the state decided
[11:11] Speaker 13: not to call, because once we heard his testimony, it
[11:15] Speaker 13: was very clear he brought too much truth to the
[11:18] Speaker 13: credibility of Carmelo as to why the state decided not
[11:22] Speaker 13: to call. This individual who was actually sitting right there
[11:26] Speaker 13: saw everything and is the one that gave the police
[11:29] Speaker 13: officers the statement that Carmelo was invited into the attent.
[11:33] Speaker 13: Carmelo was not aggressive, Hunter was the aggressive one. Austin
[11:38] Speaker 13: then reciprocated the energy of his brother as well as
[11:42] Speaker 13: he said something that was very damaging, which was Austin
[11:46] Speaker 13: was substantially bigger than Carmelo, who was sitting down the
[11:50] Speaker 13: entire time, which as to the proportion of weight classes
[11:55] Speaker 13: of when a person is deciding, Okay, this person is
[11:58] Speaker 13: bigger than me, I cannot take them. I'm in fear
[12:01] Speaker 13: of my life. I'm going to have to use force
[12:04] Speaker 13: necessary to defend myself. So that's pretty much what happened
[12:08] Speaker 13: on Saturday that now trickled over till today Monday.
[12:14] Speaker 1: Okay, So, how many witnesses did Carmelo's defense team called today?
[12:22] Speaker 12: They called a total of three.
[12:25] Speaker 1: They called a total of three witnesses, and so you
[12:27] Speaker 1: talked about three witness One of those witnesses with the
[12:29] Speaker 1: state witnesses. One of those witnesses with the state witnesses
[12:33] Speaker 1: who were the other two.
[12:34] Speaker 13: Witnesses the other two so one was a state witness,
[12:38] Speaker 13: well two of them was the state witness. We had
[12:40] Speaker 13: an officer, and we had one of Carmelo's teammates that
[12:48] Speaker 13: gave a statement. And then we had an individual who
[12:51] Speaker 13: wouldn't be considered a state witness because he was a
[12:54] Speaker 13: student at a different school, but he was there during
[12:57] Speaker 13: the track meet and actually saw a physical altercation take place.
[13:04] Speaker 1: All right, and so then they chose to rest. Now
[13:07] Speaker 1: they head to closing arguments, and so you know, clearly
[13:13] Speaker 1: the state believes that they have they made their case.
[13:17] Speaker 1: Are you surprised that Carmelo's defense team only call three witnesses.
[13:24] Speaker 13: I'm not surprised because, as I've stated from the inception,
[13:28] Speaker 13: the the burden to meet each and every element is
[13:32] Speaker 13: on the state and it never shifts even in a
[13:34] Speaker 13: self defense claim. I can tell you that throughout this
[13:39] Speaker 13: particular trial, the inconsistencies from these states witnesses was very strange,
[13:44] Speaker 13: is that the defense wasn't even calling their witnesses. The
[13:47] Speaker 13: state called them in order to bring out even more
[13:50] Speaker 13: truth that the state I feel like was trying to
[13:53] Speaker 13: bury in the inconsistencies to pretty much confuse the jury.
[13:58] Speaker 13: I'm like, why would you risk this type of trial
[14:01] Speaker 13: with such weak evidence, in such weak, inconsistent statements that
[14:05] Speaker 13: were not reliable. And I would add something something today
[14:09] Speaker 13: happened very that was explosive that we still don't know
[14:12] Speaker 13: what happened. We were supposed to go back in after
[14:15] Speaker 13: lunch at twelve thirty, but we didn't go back into two,
[14:19] Speaker 13: which there's a question of what was going on within
[14:23] Speaker 13: that time frame because it was some energy coming out
[14:27] Speaker 13: of that courtroom, and we were waiting to see if
[14:30] Speaker 13: Hunter was going to testify, because the defense had the
[14:33] Speaker 13: ability to call that brother, which he didn't. The statement
[14:37] Speaker 13: call him, which we know he has a lot of
[14:39] Speaker 13: credibility issues, but we were waiting to see if the
[14:42] Speaker 13: defense was going to call a Hunter. But after that
[14:45] Speaker 13: lunch and an hour and half break that added after
[14:48] Speaker 13: that lunch, we are still trying to figure out what
[14:50] Speaker 13: happened as to why both sides had this intensity about
[14:54] Speaker 13: themselves coming outside of that courtroom.
[14:59] Speaker 1: All right, then again, closing arguments will be taking place
[15:02] Speaker 1: tomorrow in that Colin County and then the jury will
[15:07] Speaker 1: now get that case and decide the fate of Carmelo Anthony,
[15:11] Speaker 1: of course, who is being tried for murder. There in
[15:14] Speaker 1: Colin County, Filma Anison was still appreciated things a lot.
[15:18] Speaker 12: Thank you, folks.
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[15:51] Speaker 1: Marshall Project details again nearly fifty suicides in over a
[15:57] Speaker 1: decade period in Mississippi. What is going on in those
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[20:13] Speaker 2: Watch billions so called Anti Weaponization Fund. It was going
[20:19] Speaker 2: to compensate people who say the federal government weaponized the
[20:23] Speaker 2: legal system against them.
[20:24] Speaker 11: It's been blocked by the courts.
[20:26] Speaker 2: Met with opposition from Republicans in Congress and Democrats.
[20:31] Speaker 6: Mostly Democrats, mostly Democrats, and some Republicans, very few Republicans.
[20:36] Speaker 2: Just to be very clear, are you backing off the
[20:39] Speaker 2: fund completely as you're acting Attorney General Todd blanche has said,
[20:43] Speaker 2: or are you looking for another avenue to revive?
[20:46] Speaker 9: Let me explain what the fund is. People have been
[20:49] Speaker 9: hurt so badly.
[20:51] Speaker 6: By radical left lunatics that worked for the Biden administration
[20:57] Speaker 6: and Sleepy Joe, their visious, their violent and what they
[21:00] Speaker 6: did to people. And of course they weren't after me
[21:02] Speaker 6: more than anybody else. They rated my alago and all
[21:05] Speaker 6: the other things.
[21:05] Speaker 9: But people have been badly hurt.
[21:08] Speaker 6: They've committed suicide, they've lost their jobs, they've lost their families,
[21:12] Speaker 6: they've lost their wives, they've lost everything.
[21:15] Speaker 9: They've lost everything.
[21:16] Speaker 6: Over a fake weaponization of government. Now, well, look, it
[21:23] Speaker 6: was up to me, I'd pay them the kind of
[21:27] Speaker 6: money that they deserve. People have been destroyed, lives have
[21:31] Speaker 6: been destroyed, many suicides.
[21:33] Speaker 9: Think of it.
[21:34] Speaker 6: People have committed suicide because a bunch of thugs went
[21:37] Speaker 6: after them.
[21:38] Speaker 9: You don't so me personally.
[21:40] Speaker 6: I think the Weaponization Fund is a great idea.
[21:43] Speaker 9: And so the many other Republicans. You have to get
[21:46] Speaker 9: it approved. If they get it approved, that's great. If
[21:50] Speaker 9: they don't get it approved, I'd be disappointed.
[21:52] Speaker 11: All right, we're going to motor through this.
[21:56] Speaker 6: But you have been said people have been destroyed by
[22:00] Speaker 6: crooked politicians and they should be reimbursed for that.
[22:04] Speaker 2: Do you think anyone who attacked police officers on January
[22:08] Speaker 2: sixth should get taxpayer money?
[22:11] Speaker 9: I wouldn't be inclined to say so, but I have
[22:13] Speaker 9: to see it. I can tell you this, ninety seven
[22:16] Speaker 9: percent of those people. You look at them, the FBI
[22:19] Speaker 9: or whoever it was, because you.
[22:20] Speaker 6: Had a lot of crooked cops. You had dirty cops.
[22:22] Speaker 6: Callmi was a dirty cop, a guy like both was
[22:25] Speaker 6: a dirty cop.
[22:26] Speaker 11: There's no evidence.
[22:26] Speaker 9: Wait a minute, Oh, you think Tomi was a.
[22:29] Speaker 11: Straight completed guilty to assaulting.
[22:31] Speaker 9: Police told me it was a dirty cop. No, they
[22:33] Speaker 9: had FBI assaulted. Listen to me.
[22:36] Speaker 6: They had FBI agents ushering them into the building. They
[22:40] Speaker 6: had FBI go into the building. Those people walking around,
[22:43] Speaker 6: they're looking always into this night, they weren't, and they
[22:45] Speaker 6: were being ushered into the building. You had a bunch
[22:49] Speaker 6: of dirty cops, and frankly, what they did was weaponization
[22:53] Speaker 6: of our government.
[22:53] Speaker 11: So there's there's no evidence of that more than a thousand, No.
[22:57] Speaker 9: There's none. You know what to do, Try looking at
[22:59] Speaker 9: the tapes one time?
[23:00] Speaker 11: Would you take it.
[23:03] Speaker 2: But one hundred and seventy two people did plead guilty
[23:05] Speaker 2: to assaulting police officer.
[23:06] Speaker 6: Why they played guilty because they told they were going
[23:09] Speaker 6: to jail for fifteen years if they didn't, should they
[23:11] Speaker 6: They pled guilty because they were frightened.
[23:15] Speaker 9: They went down, They were ushered into a building.
[23:18] Speaker 6: Many of them were arrested without even going into okay.
[23:21] Speaker 11: With them receiving taxpayer dollars.
[23:24] Speaker 6: The people were destroyed by dirty cops and by weaponization.
[23:29] Speaker 9: Many of those people should be compensated.
[23:32] Speaker 6: Now, with that being said, as I understand that the
[23:35] Speaker 6: Weaponization Fund was going to set up a group of people,
[23:40] Speaker 6: people that could be picked by anybody, fair people, smart people,
[23:44] Speaker 6: and they will go on an individual case basis. Now
[23:49] Speaker 6: I don't know what's going to happen with the Weaponization Fund.
[23:52] Speaker 6: I love the idea because people like you, the fake,
[23:57] Speaker 6: dirty press, the crooked press, people.
[24:00] Speaker 9: Like stupid Biden. He's not smart enough to know what's
[24:03] Speaker 9: going on.
[24:03] Speaker 6: But people that surrounded him, surrounded his beautiful.
[24:07] Speaker 9: Resolute desk in the Oval office. What they did to
[24:11] Speaker 9: the lives of people.
[24:12] Speaker 6: They destroyed people, They sent people to jail who did
[24:16] Speaker 6: nothing wrong.
[24:17] Speaker 15: Just be very clear.
[24:18] Speaker 11: There's no evidence of what you're saying, but there's a
[24:20] Speaker 11: lot about.
[24:21] Speaker 9: To me, this tremendous evidence. There's nothing but evidence. The
[24:27] Speaker 9: election was rigged.
[24:29] Speaker 6: It was a dirty election, and it's happening again right
[24:32] Speaker 6: now in California. Happening right now in California, right now,
[24:38] Speaker 6: it's looking look at what's happened in California to that.
[24:40] Speaker 9: It's four days in California. It's now they're not there.
[24:45] Speaker 9: They're dropping fast because it's a rigged election. Let me
[24:47] Speaker 9: tell you, it's four days and they aren't even close
[24:51] Speaker 9: to coming up with it. You know why they're doing that,
[24:54] Speaker 9: because they're cheating on the election.
[24:55] Speaker 7: What do you have evidence?
[24:57] Speaker 9: We'll have to do us. Look all have to do us.
[25:00] Speaker 9: It's and I listen, and I listen to people, and
[25:03] Speaker 9: let's see what happens. That's evident. You think it's appropriate,
[25:05] Speaker 9: that's how they they have the votes.
[25:07] Speaker 6: You think it's appropriate that they have an election and
[25:10] Speaker 6: five days later they're nowhere close to picking.
[25:13] Speaker 11: Local officials acknowledge they are slow.
[25:16] Speaker 2: They're urging, they're crooked, urging the votes to be counted quickly.
[25:19] Speaker 6: That's how they very crooked, just like your crooked.
[25:21] Speaker 9: Your press is crooked, and meet the presence crooked. To
[25:24] Speaker 9: be fair, I'm not crooked, but really, when you play right.
[25:27] Speaker 6: Into their hands out, you're either crooked or you're stupid.
[25:30] Speaker 6: You play right into their hands with this scrap. You
[25:33] Speaker 6: know that these elections are rigged. Your network knows.
[25:38] Speaker 9: That they're rigged.
[25:39] Speaker 6: You know that I won an election in a landslide
[25:42] Speaker 6: and I got ninety four.
[25:44] Speaker 9: Percent bad press.
[25:45] Speaker 6: You know why I got that presented because you have
[25:47] Speaker 6: no credibility, but you've.
[25:49] Speaker 11: Never presented evidence that it was rigged.
[25:50] Speaker 2: Let's keep talking about I want to talk about Tom.
[25:52] Speaker 6: You have more evidence, there's more evidence than ever presented.
[25:57] Speaker 9: Let's talk your elections in this country were like a
[26:00] Speaker 9: third world country.
[26:01] Speaker 6: Your elections are crooked, and you're crooked, and we's the
[26:04] Speaker 6: press is crooked, and so is ABC and CBS and CNN,
[26:10] Speaker 6: your one sided crooked network. So let's call it questions
[26:13] Speaker 6: because I've had enough, Thank you.
[26:14] Speaker 9: Darling, have a good time for president.
[26:16] Speaker 11: Let's please. I traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
[26:19] Speaker 9: I've long I know, born and off in the rain,
[26:25] Speaker 9: and I've given you enough time.
[26:26] Speaker 6: You would to straighten out your press because you know
[26:28] Speaker 6: what mister country can never be great.
[26:31] Speaker 2: Traveled with honest, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin
[26:35] Speaker 2: for the thing.
[26:35] Speaker 1: Year my parent that oh Congo to being a senior officer,
[26:44] Speaker 1: election school, the International Service, American University, author of Lives
[26:47] Speaker 1: about Black People, how to Combat Races, joining us from
[26:49] Speaker 1: DC after Derrick Jackson, georgiously representative out of Atlanta. Glad
[26:53] Speaker 1: to have both of you here. Then let's just be
[26:56] Speaker 1: real clear, Oh my Congo. Uh, he is a decrepit individual.
[27:00] Speaker 1: He has no bottom. And let's just be honest. These
[27:04] Speaker 1: Republicans they support this crap, they don't mind this crap.
[27:10] Speaker 1: They don't care how he treats people, abuses people, and
[27:14] Speaker 1: he's just a shameful individual.
[27:18] Speaker 12: Yeah, it's disgusting.
[27:20] Speaker 8: And you know he has so much sustain for the
[27:22] Speaker 8: media in general, Don levonje and Macosta, but we know
[27:25] Speaker 8: a particular level of the stained goals source black women.
[27:29] Speaker 8: And I applaud Kristen Welcome for what she did because
[27:31] Speaker 8: quite honestly, I've been disappointed with some of her interviews,
[27:35] Speaker 8: but I've been disappointed with a lot of these guys
[27:38] Speaker 8: interviews because I've never seen Trump get this level of
[27:40] Speaker 8: pushback and she kept pushing, you know, at the end though,
[27:44] Speaker 8: when she was like, you know, I came all to
[27:46] Speaker 8: be out here. That kind of represents the problem with
[27:48] Speaker 8: the media is that he's verbally abusive to them, and
[27:52] Speaker 8: they keep coming back to him. I get it, the president,
[27:54] Speaker 8: you want access, but you can't keep entertaining liars. And
[27:57] Speaker 8: this man is a misogynist. He's been you know, so
[28:01] Speaker 8: you know, adjudicated, found guilty for a sexual assault. He's homophobic,
[28:05] Speaker 8: he's racist. He represents the base aspects of this country
[28:09] Speaker 8: that everybody wants that his supporters want us.
[28:11] Speaker 1: To go back to.
[28:12] Speaker 8: And these media outlets who claim to have some form
[28:15] Speaker 8: of credibility left within their system.
[28:17] Speaker 12: You know, we ain't talking about CBS.
[28:19] Speaker 8: They got a real decision to make as to how
[28:21] Speaker 8: much they want to continue to platform him, because he
[28:23] Speaker 8: knows that when he gets on there, he is only
[28:26] Speaker 8: talking to his base, the folks who want this red meat,
[28:29] Speaker 8: the folks who love this. He doesn't give a damn
[28:31] Speaker 8: about the rest of us. He said this over and
[28:33] Speaker 8: over and over again. So I applaud her with the pushback,
[28:35] Speaker 8: But this is going to be who he's going to be.
[28:38] Speaker 8: He is not going to change real networks need to
[28:40] Speaker 8: make a decision to if they're going to continue to
[28:42] Speaker 8: platform something as as verbally abusive, as misogynistic.
[28:47] Speaker 12: And hateful as what he just did.
[28:49] Speaker 1: Again, what they also have to do, Derek, They have
[28:54] Speaker 1: to have the guts to say, why do you keep lying? See,
[28:57] Speaker 1: they don't even want to use that word. You gotta
[29:00] Speaker 1: call it what it is. He is a liar, that's right.
[29:06] Speaker 14: Not only is he a liar, but this pattern of
[29:10] Speaker 14: Roland has been the same from the very beginning. I mean,
[29:15] Speaker 14: he has tried to shame apral Ryan, he tried to
[29:20] Speaker 14: insult Abby Phillips, joy Ane Reed, and the list continues.
[29:25] Speaker 14: So not only did he need to call him a liar,
[29:27] Speaker 14: but they also need to say this president is undermining
[29:32] Speaker 14: the First Amendment. I mean, it's dangerous Roland for him
[29:36] Speaker 14: to refer to journalists as the enemy of the people.
[29:41] Speaker 14: You all, such as yourself, you are out there to
[29:45] Speaker 14: uphold the First Amendment to inform the public. And so
[29:50] Speaker 14: when you have someone that's using this bully pulpit to
[29:54] Speaker 14: refer to those who are in your industry as enemy
[29:59] Speaker 14: of the people and faith news and liars and crooked
[30:03] Speaker 14: somebody else is listening to that Roland and those individuals,
[30:08] Speaker 14: may you know, put your life and other journalists lives
[30:12] Speaker 14: at state and so we have to make sure that
[30:15] Speaker 14: we're painting the right picture. And the picture is this,
[30:17] Speaker 14: to doctor Omikongo's point, this is a pattern and this
[30:22] Speaker 14: is who he is, and we have to stop.
[30:25] Speaker 3: Whitewashing the information.
[30:27] Speaker 14: When it comes to Donald Trump, he is a liar
[30:31] Speaker 14: and he is not upholding the Constitution as he should
[30:34] Speaker 14: be as a president of the United States.
[30:38] Speaker 1: Well, he is really a despicable individual. And I'm telling
[30:42] Speaker 1: you right now, if I was hitting across from him,
[30:44] Speaker 1: I would simply say, you're lying right now, You're lying,
[30:48] Speaker 1: and you continue to lie. You got to call it
[30:51] Speaker 1: what it is. They keep offering deference to him, to
[30:58] Speaker 1: the office of the president when he simply has not
[31:02] Speaker 1: earned it nor does he deserve it. So what you
[31:05] Speaker 1: saw was a despicable display by Donald Trump. But that's
[31:09] Speaker 1: who he is and so he will always be. He
[31:12] Speaker 1: is never going to change, and he should be called
[31:15] Speaker 1: out every single time. And these media organizations have got
[31:19] Speaker 1: to be stopped being scared to speak truth when he
[31:23] Speaker 1: does it. All right, folks, let's talk about a case
[31:25] Speaker 1: out of Iowa. The Iowa Supreme Court rule the University
[31:28] Speaker 1: of Iowa may not repurpose a private scholarship that a
[31:32] Speaker 1: donor specified should go to black students majoring in physical sciences,
[31:37] Speaker 1: especially chemistry. The university, where black students make up just
[31:41] Speaker 1: three percent of the enrollment, brought a petition in district
[31:44] Speaker 1: Court requesting permission to distribute doctor Totten's gift differently than
[31:49] Speaker 1: he had specified. They wanted to give a scholarship to
[31:52] Speaker 1: first generation students. University argue that because of Supreme Court
[31:55] Speaker 1: Affirmative Action decision, it should be able to repurpose private
[31:59] Speaker 1: donations such as that of doctor Todd. However, that would
[32:03] Speaker 1: conflict with the wishes of the donor, who has since deceased,
[32:06] Speaker 1: which is expressed in his will. In nineteen ninety seven,
[32:09] Speaker 1: Commission profession and civil rights pioneer Ezra Todten established a
[32:13] Speaker 1: scholarship and keeping with his life's work. In the nineteen thirties,
[32:16] Speaker 1: he was part of litigation to allow black students to
[32:19] Speaker 1: enter graduate programs at the University of Tennessee, and he
[32:22] Speaker 1: strove his whole life to improve access to the sciences
[32:24] Speaker 1: for black students. David Walker's Coast Council for the NAACP
[32:28] Speaker 1: of Iowa and Nebraska joins us now from des Mont, Iowa.
[32:31] Speaker 1: I'm glad to have you hear, David, let's talk about
[32:35] Speaker 1: this here, because I mean, my goodness, how can you
[32:40] Speaker 1: just decide to say, all right, well, because the Supreme
[32:42] Speaker 1: Court decision do infirmative action which applied to admissions. The
[32:46] Speaker 1: Supreme Court's decision, and I don't understand what these universities
[32:49] Speaker 1: are all doing. The Supreme Court's decision did not apply
[32:54] Speaker 1: to scholarships. It only applied to admissions.
[33:00] Speaker 8: Is uh.
[33:01] Speaker 16: It is true that there are a number of decisions
[33:04] Speaker 16: that have been holding the Supreme Court's decision in the
[33:09] Speaker 16: Harvard and North Carolina cases applicable to scholarship assistance as well.
[33:17] Speaker 16: We recognize that it while it might not be unlawful
[33:22] Speaker 16: under the then existing authorities, it was nevertheless impracticable to
[33:27] Speaker 16: leave this endowment established by Ezra Totten, doctor of Totten,
[33:33] Speaker 16: with the University of Iowa. And so we invoked a
[33:36] Speaker 16: really centuries old, time, timeless and uh statutorially authorized procedure
[33:45] Speaker 16: to have the have the Court consider the issue and
[33:51] Speaker 16: not the University of Iowa itself. The charity itself should
[33:54] Speaker 16: not be able to determine exclusively how the how the
[33:59] Speaker 16: gift shall be administered.
[34:03] Speaker 1: First of all, how large is this endowment?
[34:07] Speaker 16: The endowment initially was thirty five thousand dollars somewhat more,
[34:12] Speaker 16: and over time it has grown to fifty eight thousand dollars.
[34:16] Speaker 3: The significance of that is that.
[34:19] Speaker 16: When it becomes unlawful or impracticable or impossible to administer
[34:26] Speaker 16: the gift as doctor Totten intended, it should then go
[34:31] Speaker 16: to a trial court looking at the will, looking at
[34:36] Speaker 16: the gift instrument, and examining all relevant evidence to determine
[34:42] Speaker 16: the purpose that would most nearly approximate what the donor,
[34:49] Speaker 16: doctor Totten would have intended, would have been wanted, what
[34:53] Speaker 16: was his probable what would his probable intention have been?
[34:58] Speaker 1: Go to the court, not the university. And you say
[35:04] Speaker 1: it goes to the court, And that's based upon what.
[35:10] Speaker 16: And there is there is a statute Roland called the
[35:14] Speaker 16: Uniform Prudent Management of Institutional Funds Act.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Every State.
[35:19] Speaker 16: It's a uniform act I believe every state in the
[35:22] Speaker 16: Union has has adopted. And it says, you know, when
[35:26] Speaker 16: it becomes to impossible or impracticable or unlawful to administer
[35:34] Speaker 16: an endowed fund as it was intended by the donor,
[35:39] Speaker 16: Ezra Tauten. The trial court on the basis of the
[35:46] Speaker 16: gift instrument the will, doctor Totten's will in all relevant evidence,
[35:51] Speaker 16: and my colleague gets the ac OU and I put
[35:56] Speaker 16: together a tremendous amount of evidence about what his intention
[36:00] Speaker 16: would have been. It's for the court to consider what
[36:05] Speaker 16: most nearly possible would reflect and fulfill the donors Doctor
[36:14] Speaker 16: Totten's purposes. In his case Roland, he wanted to give
[36:19] Speaker 16: forty percent of his estate to his beneficiaries. Two of
[36:24] Speaker 16: those beneficiaries were the University of Wisconsin and the University
[36:29] Speaker 16: of Iowa, and for both of those he said for
[36:34] Speaker 16: a black student majoring in the physical sciences, preferably chemistry,
[36:39] Speaker 16: which was his field. The other three White Rock Baptist Church,
[36:44] Speaker 16: a long time age old Baptist church in Durham Durham,
[36:51] Speaker 16: North Carolina, North Carolina Central University, and Knoxville University, both
[36:57] Speaker 16: historically black colleges and universities. And for those three there
[37:04] Speaker 16: was no racial restriction. And the truth is, under the
[37:09] Speaker 16: law today there can't legally be a racial restriction under
[37:14] Speaker 16: Title six of the Civil Rights Act, and under the
[37:18] Speaker 16: Equal Protection Clause as interpreted by the court, there can't be.
[37:22] Speaker 16: But for those three there's no racial restriction. And this
[37:26] Speaker 16: is a person whose whole life was involved in supporting
[37:32] Speaker 16: communities of which he had been apart. And so we
[37:37] Speaker 16: were arguing that, and the Court made very important findings
[37:42] Speaker 16: in this respect that the trial court ought to be
[37:45] Speaker 16: able to consider transferring that endowment fifty eight thousand dollars
[37:51] Speaker 16: to one or equally among those other three schools, free
[37:56] Speaker 16: of the racial restriction, to support the communities there, the
[38:02] Speaker 16: communities to which he wanted to give back, and and
[38:06] Speaker 16: in the course of his life he spent so much
[38:08] Speaker 16: time giving back.
[38:13] Speaker 1: I want you to speak to this here because the
[38:15] Speaker 1: same thing happened university I think the University of Texas.
[38:18] Speaker 1: There was a Hispanic graduate who I think was a
[38:22] Speaker 1: school of pharmacy, and he wanted his endowment to go
[38:26] Speaker 1: to Latino students, and the university said that that was
[38:29] Speaker 1: now illegal. So is the issue if the university is
[38:33] Speaker 1: making the decision. So so let's just let's say let's
[38:37] Speaker 1: say he has Let's say this someone has a nonprofit,
[38:42] Speaker 1: or let's say someone has provided the money to another organization.
[38:47] Speaker 1: Can that individual say, like, let's just say I'm a
[38:52] Speaker 1: graduate Texas A and M. If I say I want
[38:55] Speaker 1: to give out two scholarships a year to black students
[39:00] Speaker 1: who are admitted to Texas A and M based upon
[39:05] Speaker 1: even the Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action in college admissions,
[39:09] Speaker 1: is that allowed?
[39:13] Speaker 9: Well, it may not be.
[39:16] Speaker 16: The Texas A and M is a state institution. So
[39:22] Speaker 16: the fourteenth Amendment would apply the students for fair and
[39:26] Speaker 16: mission versus Harvard and the University of North Carolina with.
[39:31] Speaker 1: Here's what I mean, what I mean, Here's what I mean, David, David, David,
[39:34] Speaker 1: Here's what I mean. I'm not giving them money to
[39:36] Speaker 1: the school. I'm saying if the students are already admitted
[39:40] Speaker 1: and I decided I wanted to give U two black
[39:44] Speaker 1: students a year a scholarship, is that allowed? Because because
[39:49] Speaker 1: what's happening is different individuals who've established groups of affinity
[39:55] Speaker 1: groups African Americans, Latinos. We've seen this happen in Auburn
[39:59] Speaker 1: Universe to other places as well. So we have existing
[40:02] Speaker 1: scholarships that have been created for this purpose that now
[40:07] Speaker 1: are in jeopardy. So the question then becomes Okay, how
[40:11] Speaker 1: do we If we're still trying to emphasize and want
[40:15] Speaker 1: to provide economic resources to expand diversity etics institutions, then
[40:23] Speaker 1: if the former student association, if you alumni association, if
[40:27] Speaker 1: the school itself can't do this, then can an external
[40:32] Speaker 1: group still do this, provided that they're the ones provided
[40:36] Speaker 1: the scholarship and not the institution.
[40:40] Speaker 16: I believe that you'd be able to give the money
[40:42] Speaker 16: to those two individuals who made it aware that they'd
[40:45] Speaker 16: been admitted.
[40:45] Speaker 1: To Texas A and M.
[40:47] Speaker 16: We're African American students, and you chose to give your
[40:51] Speaker 16: money to them, they would be perfectly fine. Here's what
[40:54] Speaker 16: was happening in the Iowa case. The University of Iowa
[40:58] Speaker 16: was trying to repurpose the gift from African American students
[41:05] Speaker 16: to first generation students. Let me let me give some
[41:10] Speaker 16: background on that, because nationally, there are twice as many
[41:14] Speaker 16: first generation students as there are African American students, and
[41:18] Speaker 16: at the University of Iowa the difference is even greater.
[41:23] Speaker 16: Three or four percent of University of Iowa is African American,
[41:29] Speaker 16: and several times that is first first generation students. But
[41:35] Speaker 16: here's what's what's also true. You know, this is a
[41:39] Speaker 16: question under the law for the the court to decide.
[41:46] Speaker 16: And if you look at Ezra Totten's life, everything he did,
[41:51] Speaker 16: you know, from beginning as a kid in Sedalia, North Carolina,
[41:55] Speaker 16: working with his father and his siblings, helped out other
[41:59] Speaker 16: people in the community, people on foreign people with small
[42:03] Speaker 16: in small business. He went to a segregated school in Sedalia,
[42:09] Speaker 16: and as he obtained his master's and his doctorate and
[42:14] Speaker 16: became chair at North Carolina Central University, he worked on
[42:19] Speaker 16: behalf of all of their students, North Carolina Central University,
[42:23] Speaker 16: and not racially restricted. You know, it's got probably about
[42:26] Speaker 16: twenty percent non African American, I think eleven or twelve
[42:32] Speaker 16: percent White, eleven or twelve percent Hispanic two to three
[42:40] Speaker 16: percent you know, others, you know, Asian, Native American and
[42:46] Speaker 16: the light you know, and what the court importantly in
[42:50] Speaker 16: the Iowa case said to the University of Bioha and
[42:54] Speaker 16: to the Attorney General, you have to appoint somebody who
[42:58] Speaker 16: is going to represent Ezra Totten's intent, because the law
[43:03] Speaker 16: requires that we, as best as possible, probably approximate fulfill
[43:09] Speaker 16: his probable intention, his charitable purposes in light of the
[43:14] Speaker 16: will in light of what is attorney communicated, in light
[43:19] Speaker 16: of all the evidence about his life, and it is
[43:23] Speaker 16: clear that the University of Iowa had nobody representing Ezra
[43:28] Speaker 16: Totten's individual intentions. And here's here's what the court also said.
[43:36] Speaker 16: It is for God's sakes, if you're going to look
[43:38] Speaker 16: at Ezra Totten's probable intention, his his charitable purposes, you
[43:43] Speaker 16: have to look at the will. And the University of
[43:46] Speaker 16: Iowa never introduced Ezra Totten's will into the into the
[43:52] Speaker 16: trial court when it sought modification or repurposing to third
[43:59] Speaker 16: first generation students, and the court said that that was
[44:04] Speaker 16: an error. Now here is an important point. The law
[44:09] Speaker 16: in the act that I mentioned, you know, authorizes a
[44:14] Speaker 16: modification and the modification may include transfer of the funds
[44:22] Speaker 16: to another institution, and important points here He named three
[44:30] Speaker 16: other institutions with rich historic black communities that contained no
[44:37] Speaker 16: prohibited racial restriction to which that endowment might be transferred
[44:45] Speaker 16: free of a challengeable racial restriction. And so that will
[44:51] Speaker 16: be something for the trial court on remand sometimes Roland
[45:00] Speaker 16: in a in a bequest, as in this case, there
[45:04] Speaker 16: are explicit and implicit purposes, and one of the purposes
[45:11] Speaker 16: might in fact, not be enforceable here a university's use
[45:19] Speaker 16: of race explicitly in the award of scholarship. In that case,
[45:24] Speaker 16: what the law says is, you know, disregard the lesser purpose.
[45:30] Speaker 16: What was the larger purpose? The larger purpose was somebody
[45:34] Speaker 16: like you wanting to give back to the community of
[45:38] Speaker 16: which you've been apart, which has supported you in your
[45:43] Speaker 16: upbringing and in your family and in hard times or whatever,
[45:47] Speaker 16: and to enable that gift to be made to fulfill
[45:52] Speaker 16: the larger purposes which the a c o U and
[45:55] Speaker 16: the NAACP, which is a co counsil uh uh with
[46:01] Speaker 16: Rita Betisauce, a terrific legal director for the a c
[46:04] Speaker 16: ou of Iowa. You know in that case a lot
[46:08] Speaker 16: you know, transferring the money to one of the historically
[46:10] Speaker 16: black the recipients of his scholarship would fulfill his larger
[46:15] Speaker 16: purposes to support that university. You know, you know that
[46:20] Speaker 16: that that charitable purpose that he wanted to fulfill giving
[46:25] Speaker 16: it to their first generation students would not. For example, uh,
[46:31] Speaker 16: you could have a a an accomplished, uh, hard working,
[46:39] Speaker 16: uh financially in need African American students, one or both
[46:47] Speaker 16: of whose parents had gone to college, but had passed away,
[46:51] Speaker 16: something terrible had happened. They were no longer in the picture.
[46:54] Speaker 16: He would not qualify for for Ezra Tirant Scholarship. That
[46:59] Speaker 16: seems wrong, especially given the numbers and the delude is
[47:02] Speaker 16: effect that would be evident in this case, given given
[47:07] Speaker 16: the number twice as many first generation students first generation
[47:11] Speaker 16: students nationally as African American students many times that at
[47:16] Speaker 16: the University of Iowa.
[47:20] Speaker 1: But you know, I think, well, bomb well, well about
[47:24] Speaker 1: bomblned here, David bomblne here. David is real simple. Uh.
[47:28] Speaker 1: If somebody gets given money for us for a purpose,
[47:31] Speaker 1: you just shall decide to take the money, even though
[47:33] Speaker 1: you may not deem it to be a whole hell
[47:34] Speaker 1: of a lot of money. Uh. And the reality is,
[47:37] Speaker 1: I get first generation, But the reality is there are
[47:39] Speaker 1: a lot of African American students who are first generation
[47:43] Speaker 1: to go to college.
[47:44] Speaker 7: Uh.
[47:44] Speaker 1: They are the first time in their family. And the
[47:47] Speaker 1: reality is, uh, we still need to have these scholarships
[47:50] Speaker 1: providing opportunities for these individuals.
[47:53] Speaker 6: Uh.
[47:53] Speaker 1: And they should not be usurped. And I really hope
[47:56] Speaker 1: uh in pray that individuals as well as alumni associations
[47:59] Speaker 1: and others really rethink you know, uh, you know, providing
[48:04] Speaker 1: their money to these state institutions in light of these folks,
[48:09] Speaker 1: and again, I believe what they are doing is they
[48:12] Speaker 1: are there's an overreach when it comes to this decision.
[48:16] Speaker 1: You had Republicans in Congress, like Senator Tom Cotton sending
[48:19] Speaker 1: letters to law firms saying, oh, your apprenticeship programs, your
[48:23] Speaker 1: internship programs are now in violation because of the Supreme
[48:27] Speaker 1: Court ruling. I'm like, no, they're not. That's nonsense. And
[48:30] Speaker 1: so I hope, certainly hope folks fight back in these cases. David,
[48:34] Speaker 1: we appreciate it.
[48:35] Speaker 16: There's got to be away for black people. There's got
[48:39] Speaker 16: to be away for black people to give back to
[48:41] Speaker 16: their communities without somebody saying it's some constitutional or unlawful.
[48:48] Speaker 1: Absolutely, David Walker, we should appreciate it. Thanks a lot,
[48:51] Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
[48:52] Speaker 3: Jwen.
[48:54] Speaker 1: We're going to bring in om Congo and Derek. Derek,
[48:58] Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Uh, and he's right, I mean
[49:02] Speaker 1: that has to take place. We can't, you know, just
[49:04] Speaker 1: continue to sit here and act as if the need
[49:08] Speaker 1: is not there. And what we are seeing we are
[49:11] Speaker 1: seeing in extreme court doing the bidding of right wingers
[49:15] Speaker 1: denying opportunities, and frankly, what they're saying is they're saying
[49:18] Speaker 1: that white people in this country have more rights in
[49:21] Speaker 1: African Americans than others. And we see this, we see this.
[49:25] Speaker 12: Appreciate you see this.
[49:26] Speaker 1: We see this, we see that. We see this in
[49:28] Speaker 1: the Jared Mandarein case, in Jered Mandu cases as well.
[49:32] Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this court has been shameful and despicable, Roland.
[49:37] Speaker 14: I appreciate you covering this, this this case because it's
[49:41] Speaker 14: truly exposing on the higher education landscape.
[49:46] Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.
[49:47] Speaker 14: You've got college administrators right now who are more afraid
[49:53] Speaker 14: on what this administration is going to do, what the
[49:55] Speaker 14: DJ is going to do, or hack, better yet, what
[49:58] Speaker 14: state legislators are doing in the various states against the
[50:02] Speaker 14: higher education. They're rewriting laws, Roland, to make it more
[50:06] Speaker 14: challenging for black students to be financially solvent in college
[50:13] Speaker 14: as they matriculate through these.
[50:14] Speaker 3: College various colleges and universities.
[50:17] Speaker 14: And they're also aiming specifically rolling at HBCUs and so
[50:24] Speaker 14: this is this is incredulous. You know, it's sad that
[50:29] Speaker 14: we are here in twenty twenty six. You and I
[50:33] Speaker 14: and doctor Omencongo. We should be able to create a scholarship,
[50:37] Speaker 14: to be able to give back, to to be able to,
[50:40] Speaker 14: you know, pay it forward.
[50:42] Speaker 3: But when you have someone that's having.
[50:45] Speaker 14: The Supreme Court and the DJ some of the largest
[50:50] Speaker 14: branches of government dismantling.
[50:55] Speaker 3: This effort to give back is just shameful. It's just shameful.
[51:03] Speaker 1: Well, we see what is going on here on my
[51:06] Speaker 1: cong going. I'm telling you right now a lot of
[51:10] Speaker 1: individuals who have provided money to institutions are having to
[51:13] Speaker 1: deal with this very issue. And these institutions are saying, hey,
[51:17] Speaker 1: because of this ruling, you know, we can't administer this endowment,
[51:21] Speaker 1: can't administer this scholarship. And my whole deal is, YO,
[51:24] Speaker 1: take it back and say, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna,
[51:28] Speaker 1: you know, award it ourselves.
[51:33] Speaker 8: Do I mean my daughter just graduated high school valedictorian
[51:36] Speaker 8: and wants to do chemistry in college, and you know,
[51:38] Speaker 8: we're we're seeing and I have another daughter who's a
[51:40] Speaker 8: rising junior in college. You know, money drying up in
[51:43] Speaker 8: different places. Scholarships like this that were available are no
[51:47] Speaker 8: longer available. And this is and going back to what
[51:50] Speaker 8: you said at the beginning of your interview with mister Walker,
[51:52] Speaker 8: it's like that Supreme Court decision was about admissions, but
[51:56] Speaker 8: it's like they're taking it and applying it to every
[51:59] Speaker 8: other aspect. Because this is what these schools, some of
[52:02] Speaker 8: these schools and some of these leaders have always wanted
[52:04] Speaker 8: to do, and they're jumping at every opportunity to deny
[52:07] Speaker 8: black people and non white folks in general, the.
[52:10] Speaker 12: Opportunity to get a better education.
[52:12] Speaker 8: What happened to private business, what happened to you know,
[52:14] Speaker 8: respecting enterprise and all of this other type of stuff.
[52:17] Speaker 8: This is a man's private money, private endowment, and they're
[52:20] Speaker 8: not doing this for I'm sure doowminds that are going
[52:23] Speaker 8: to students who are probably going to be white because
[52:25] Speaker 8: of their background or region that they're going to come from.
[52:28] Speaker 8: But we have to get on the good foot about
[52:30] Speaker 8: this because you also mentioned this happening in another place
[52:32] Speaker 8: with a Latino graduate. This this absolutely no way, this
[52:37] Speaker 8: is not happening across the country, and those who are
[52:40] Speaker 8: interested in being benefactors and helping people go to school,
[52:42] Speaker 8: we are absolutely going to have to look at other
[52:45] Speaker 8: ways to make sure our young people get the money
[52:48] Speaker 8: that they need, whether it's through you know, maybe engineering,
[52:50] Speaker 8: you know, National Association for in Societies Black Engineers or
[52:54] Speaker 8: other organizations like that.
[52:56] Speaker 12: We have to be more strategic because they're being more.
[52:58] Speaker 8: Strategic and job dismantling the ways we're able to get
[53:02] Speaker 8: at finances.
[53:03] Speaker 12: For our education.
[53:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is happening over and over and
[53:10] Speaker 1: over again. All right, folks, going to break We come
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[54:09] Speaker 1: let me tell you about Chapter. Now. If you're in
[54:11] Speaker 1: Medicare or about to be, the system is not set
[54:15] Speaker 1: up to work for you. Too much fine, too many plans,
[54:18] Speaker 1: and too many people making money off of your confusion.
[54:21] Speaker 1: And look, we're used to this. We're no strangers to
[54:23] Speaker 1: systems that don't have our best interest at heart. But
[54:26] Speaker 1: we don't have to accept it when it comes to Medicare.
[54:29] Speaker 1: That's why I'm telling you about Chapter. Their advisors are
[54:33] Speaker 1: independent and honest. In fact, they're the only Medicare advisors
[54:38] Speaker 1: that compare every plan nationwide, and they're focused on one thing,
[54:44] Speaker 1: what works for you. If there's a better plan out there,
[54:49] Speaker 1: they'll find it. If you're already in the right one,
[54:52] Speaker 1: they'll tell you that too. There are no games. Just
[54:55] Speaker 1: last year, people who switched with Chapter saved an average
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[55:54] Speaker 1: The this week, the House is set to take up
[55:56] Speaker 1: a sixty nine point five billion dollar budget reconciliation package
[56:00] Speaker 1: to fund immigration and customs enforcement, as well as border
[56:04] Speaker 1: patrol through twenty twenty nine. It has already passed the
[56:07] Speaker 1: Senate on Friday. The Republicans will need near unanimous support
[56:11] Speaker 1: of the measure, which is not expected to get any
[56:13] Speaker 1: Democratic votes. At a news conference today, Democratic Leader Hakim
[56:16] Speaker 1: Jeffreys made it clear which way he was voting and why.
[56:22] Speaker 17: From the very beginning of this Congress, House Democrats have
[56:26] Speaker 17: made clear that the cost of living in the United
[56:30] Speaker 17: States of America is far too high, and that Donald
[56:35] Speaker 17: Trump promised to lower costs on day one, but costs
[56:39] Speaker 17: having gone down in the United States of America, costs
[56:42] Speaker 17: have gone up. Grocery prices are too high, housing costs
[56:48] Speaker 17: are too high, healthcare costs are too high, Utility bills.
[56:54] Speaker 1: Are too high.
[56:55] Speaker 17: Gas prices are out of control. America is far too expensive,
[57:03] Speaker 17: and Donald Trump hasn't made the situation better, He's.
[57:07] Speaker 1: Made the situation worse.
[57:09] Speaker 17: The Trump tariffs have increased costs on everyday Americans by
[57:14] Speaker 17: thousands of dollars per year. The Republican assault on the
[57:19] Speaker 17: healthcare of the American people has caused health insurance costs
[57:24] Speaker 17: to skyrocket, and at the same period of time, Donald
[57:29] Speaker 17: Trump's reckless and costly war of choice in Iran has
[57:35] Speaker 17: resulted in gas prices.
[57:38] Speaker 1: Through the roof.
[57:40] Speaker 17: America's far too expensive. There are far too many people
[57:44] Speaker 17: in this country who are working hard, they're playing by
[57:47] Speaker 17: the rules, but they're unable to thrive and they can
[57:51] Speaker 17: barely survive. And that's not acceptable in the United States
[57:56] Speaker 17: of America. So House Democrats are going to continue to
[57:59] Speaker 17: fight to drive down the high cost of living and
[58:05] Speaker 17: push back against the Republican efforts to make life more expensive.
[58:11] Speaker 1: We believe that taxpayer dollars should be.
[58:13] Speaker 17: Used to make life more affordable for the American people,
[58:19] Speaker 17: not give Ice another seventy billion dollar blank check so
[58:26] Speaker 17: they can unleash brutality on American citizens and violently target
[58:33] Speaker 17: law abiding immigrant communities. House Democrats will be a hard
[58:38] Speaker 17: no on the reckless Republican budget reconciliation bill this week.
[58:50] Speaker 1: All right, listen on a congo. You know, Democrats shouldn't
[58:57] Speaker 1: give any support to what Republicans are doing. What we
[59:00] Speaker 1: are seeing our individuals who are allowing an absolutely corrupt
[59:04] Speaker 1: individual occupy the Oval Office. Uh, these people still did
[59:08] Speaker 1: not want reforms when it comes to Ice, and they
[59:11] Speaker 1: want them to operate with impunity.
[59:15] Speaker 8: Yeah, he didn't need the hat though, But that's okay.
[59:18] Speaker 8: We'll keep we'll keep it moving. Look, I think that when.
[59:21] Speaker 1: You when you look at Well, you know he's gonna
[59:24] Speaker 1: support you know, you're gonna support his knicks. So yeah,
[59:29] Speaker 1: even though I want the Spurs to win tonight, but
[59:31] Speaker 1: go ahead, no.
[59:32] Speaker 12: Doubt, I'm with you on that. You know, look, Ice,
[59:36] Speaker 12: how much more do they need?
[59:37] Speaker 8: First of all, I mean, even during the last shutdown,
[59:39] Speaker 8: they were still getting money that was appropriated. These guys,
[59:42] Speaker 8: they're so wealthy right now, Like they're buying airplanes with
[59:47] Speaker 8: like bars you know on the planes.
[59:50] Speaker 12: How much more money do they need?
[59:51] Speaker 8: And I'll be honest, rolling like, I appreciate what Jeffrey's
[59:54] Speaker 8: is saying, but I'm not fully convinced that some you know,
[59:58] Speaker 8: a one or two Democratic when he leans in hard,
[1:00:01] Speaker 8: Democrats tend to follow him and whatnot.
[1:00:02] Speaker 12: But I just I wouldn't be surprised if some broke.
[1:00:05] Speaker 8: But really, at the end of the day, this is
[1:00:07] Speaker 8: a vote that's going to just keep all Republicans on
[1:00:09] Speaker 8: record as we go onto the midterms. Nothing has happened
[1:00:12] Speaker 8: that has made Ice more popular since Trump got in,
[1:00:16] Speaker 8: since Holman was doing his thing, since Mark Wayne Mullen
[1:00:19] Speaker 8: took over, nothing's changed. Everybody thought we was since Christy
[1:00:22] Speaker 8: Nolan was gonna leave. That people are gonna not care
[1:00:24] Speaker 8: about Ice anymore. So my thing is let them vote.
[1:00:27] Speaker 8: You know, My hope is that some Republicans will develop
[1:00:30] Speaker 8: enough of a conscious because you know, now that we're
[1:00:31] Speaker 8: past Memorial Day and so many of these primaries are done,
[1:00:35] Speaker 8: you know, Republicans can start to do a little bit
[1:00:37] Speaker 8: more to have a bit of a spine going to
[1:00:39] Speaker 8: the midterms.
[1:00:40] Speaker 12: So I'm hoping that that will happen. Maybe there was
[1:00:42] Speaker 12: Jill shave Off one.
[1:00:43] Speaker 8: Or two or three Republicans in this particular bill right now,
[1:00:46] Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, Trump's number one
[1:00:50] Speaker 8: priority is his racism and his hate, and ice is
[1:00:53] Speaker 8: the organization that he's using to do it, to practice
[1:00:56] Speaker 8: all of it, him and Stephen Miller. And so I'm
[1:00:58] Speaker 8: hoping that this fails, but even if it fit else,
[1:01:00] Speaker 8: He's not going to stop because this is his number
[1:01:02] Speaker 8: one way to demonstrate his racism.
[1:01:06] Speaker 14: David Derek, you know, Roland, I had to unpackage the
[1:01:12] Speaker 14: package right because I want to make sure your listening
[1:01:15] Speaker 14: audience understand what this seventy billion that what they want
[1:01:18] Speaker 14: to do with it.
[1:01:19] Speaker 3: Thirty point seven billion rolling. They want to hire.
[1:01:24] Speaker 14: Twenty thousand unqualified high school dropout, paying them one hundred
[1:01:30] Speaker 14: thousand dollars, fifty thousand dollars sign on bonus, and if
[1:01:33] Speaker 14: they got college sixty thousand dollars forgiveness. You're also including
[1:01:37] Speaker 14: this thirty point seven personnel and operation. Then they have
[1:01:42] Speaker 14: forty six point five billion rolling to construct a new
[1:01:48] Speaker 14: border wall.
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: That they've been talking about for years. And then five billion.
[1:01:52] Speaker 14: Rolland get this to build more detention centers in the
[1:01:56] Speaker 14: United States across the United States. And then as if
[1:02:00] Speaker 14: not leaves rolling one billion dollars to finish the ballroom.
[1:02:09] Speaker 14: So it's not just seventy billion dollars for ice and
[1:02:13] Speaker 14: the border and facilities, it's the border is to deal
[1:02:17] Speaker 14: with the ballroom too. So when conservatives like Republicans say
[1:02:22] Speaker 14: they're fiscally conservative, I call that BS. And every Democrat
[1:02:29] Speaker 14: up there in Washington, DC should be calling out BS.
[1:02:32] Speaker 14: When you have SNAP, you have children that that are
[1:02:36] Speaker 14: SNAP benefits. Here in Georgia, we got six hundred and
[1:02:39] Speaker 14: forty four thousand children that needs this SNAP benefits and
[1:02:43] Speaker 14: the federal government saying no, we can't afford that.
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: That's a problem.
[1:02:49] Speaker 1: All right, absolutely, all right, folks, hold type one second,
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: we come back. Marshall Project did a breakdown. It's ten
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: year period, nearly fifty people dying by suicide. What is
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: going on in Mississippi prisons. We'll talk about that next
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: right here. Roland Martin unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. All right, folks,
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: let me tell you about chapter Now. If you're in
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: Medicare or about to be. The system is not set
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: up to work for you. Too much fine, too many plans,
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: and too many people making money off of your confusion.
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: And look, we're used to this. We're no strangers to
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: systems that don't have our best interest at heart. But
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: we don't have to accept it when it comes to Medicare.
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: That's why I'm telling you about Chapter. Their advisors are
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: independent and honest. In fact, they're the only Medicare advisors
[1:03:41] Speaker 1: that compare every plan nationwide, and they're focused on one thing,
[1:03:47] Speaker 1: what works for you. If there's a better plan out there,
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: they'll find it. If you're already in the right one,
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: they'll tell you that too. There are no games. Just
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: last year, people who switched with Chapter saved an average
[1:04:02] Speaker 1: up eleven hundred dollars. It's twenty minutes and a real person.
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: It's completely free. My parents actually have already called Mom,
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: sent me a text. Folks, Give Chapter a call at
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[1:04:26] Speaker 1: here at Roland. Martin nonfiltered and the Blackstar Network. So
[1:04:29] Speaker 1: call chapter right now seven two four, two sixty four,
[1:04:33] Speaker 1: eight to eight one.
[1:04:35] Speaker 5: How you doing it?
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: I'm Mark Curry and you're watching the Black Star Network.
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: That's why I got these glass long That Black Star
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[1:04:52] Speaker 7: Folks.
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: LA's forty seven people have died by suicide while and
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: restrictive housing units in Mississippi's prisons twenty two thousand and
[1:04:59] Speaker 1: fIF teen in twenty twenty five. That's according to a
[1:05:02] Speaker 1: new joint investigative report by the Marshall Project, Mississippi Today
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: and The Clarion Ledger. The investigation, which looked into a
[1:05:10] Speaker 1: decade of Mississippi prison records, included several disturbing findings, including
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: that nearly seventy five percent of all suicides inside Mississippi
[1:05:19] Speaker 1: prisons occurred in so called restricted housing units commonly known
[1:05:23] Speaker 1: as solitary confinement, where well being checks are supposed to
[1:05:27] Speaker 1: be conducted more often. Many of those cases involved men
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: and women with the histories of mental health struggles and
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: suicide attempts that were known to prison officials before their deaths.
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: Joining us Now is one of the reporters behind the
[1:05:39] Speaker 1: piece Dojah. Henry Staff writer for the Marshall Project, Dodger,
[1:05:43] Speaker 1: glad to have you here, So let's talk about this here.
[1:05:47] Speaker 1: I mean, we've had previous reporting on what's going on
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: in Mississippi prisons. In fact, when Christian Clark led the
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, they were
[1:05:58] Speaker 1: investigating Mississippi prisons. These prisons have been brutal for decades,
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: and what the hell does Governor Tate Reeves and others
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: say about what's happening in that state?
[1:06:15] Speaker 18: Deja and thank you for having me, but it's prison
[1:06:19] Speaker 18: deaths are not very high priority in the state. There
[1:06:23] Speaker 18: has along with this investigation, we also investigated homicides within
[1:06:28] Speaker 18: the prisons and that led to the Commissioner Brokane saying
[1:06:33] Speaker 18: that they would investigate these homicides more.
[1:06:36] Speaker 12: There's been some.
[1:06:37] Speaker 18: Attempted legislation to increase oversight over or create oversight to
[1:06:43] Speaker 18: look into prison desks, but that did not gain the
[1:06:47] Speaker 18: momentum that it needed to pass. So it's still pretty
[1:06:51] Speaker 18: not high on the priority list here.
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: So you've got state officials, no big deal. It's not
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: like you've got a Department of Justice that's actually going
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: to look into it. Donald Trump doesn't give a damn uh.
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: And so are folks just throwing up their hands and
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: saying there's nothing they can do?
[1:07:14] Speaker 18: I think with sustained reporting such as the the work
[1:07:17] Speaker 18: that we're doing here with the Marshall Project, you know,
[1:07:20] Speaker 18: getting this in front of legislators and people who can
[1:07:23] Speaker 18: make these decisions, hopefully people are starting to.
[1:07:29] Speaker 12: Continue looking looking at this.
[1:07:31] Speaker 18: But there hasn't been any meaningful reform as of yet.
[1:07:39] Speaker 1: And so who is leading this Mississippi Black Caucus?
[1:07:46] Speaker 5: Uh?
[1:07:47] Speaker 16: You know who?
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: Who's who? Who's actually showing on the political level if
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: they actually care about this issue.
[1:07:56] Speaker 18: This past legislative session, there was a representative Becky Curry,
[1:08:00] Speaker 18: she's a Republican legislator here and chairs the House Corrections Committee,
[1:08:08] Speaker 18: and she introduced this legislation that would create oversight into
[1:08:13] Speaker 18: prisons along with the suicides I mentioned before, homicides have
[1:08:18] Speaker 18: been in prison a problem here in the prisons and
[1:08:23] Speaker 18: this after seeing these alarming findings. Of course that she
[1:08:28] Speaker 18: kind of led that charge to try and get some
[1:08:31] Speaker 18: oversight and get people looking into the prison depths.
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: Questions for my panel, Derek, you state were representative, this
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: is something that state officials should be should care about
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: just because folks are in prison doesn't mean they're no
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: longer humans.
[1:08:50] Speaker 14: I absolutely agree with you, Roland. I mean we got
[1:08:52] Speaker 14: our fair share of challenges here in Georgia. And my question,
[1:08:58] Speaker 14: you know, when you think about seventy five percent of
[1:09:00] Speaker 14: Mississippi deaths by way of suicide by those who have
[1:09:04] Speaker 14: spent get this, five hundred and fifteen days in solitary
[1:09:09] Speaker 14: confinement in Mississippi. Five hundred and fifteen days. Is there
[1:09:15] Speaker 14: something that we can call upon a call of action?
[1:09:21] Speaker 14: You know, Georgia is the largest Black caucus in the
[1:09:23] Speaker 14: United States. But what can we do to help Mississippi
[1:09:27] Speaker 14: in this effort? Because if we help Mississippi will help
[1:09:30] Speaker 14: Georgia too, because we got the same challenges.
[1:09:35] Speaker 10: Right.
[1:09:35] Speaker 18: You know, I'm not in the place to speak from
[1:09:38] Speaker 18: an advocacy standpoint, but just thinking about that, Like the
[1:09:41] Speaker 18: numbers you mentioned, there is there has been legislation across
[1:09:47] Speaker 18: the country introduced to limit solitary confinement. So looking at
[1:09:51] Speaker 18: what other states have done, but there is as you
[1:09:57] Speaker 18: mentioned people, this was for that number that you made
[1:10:00] Speaker 18: was from a Department of Justice investigation into Parchment, one
[1:10:04] Speaker 18: of the prisons here that people in restrictive housing spent
[1:10:08] Speaker 18: an average of five hundred and fifteen days there. The
[1:10:11] Speaker 18: National Commission on Correctional Health Care says that solitary confinement
[1:10:16] Speaker 18: should never exceed more than fifteen days.
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: So you have such a huge, like that huge.
[1:10:21] Speaker 18: Difference in what should happen or what is like what's
[1:10:25] Speaker 18: the standard, and what is not happening. And so I
[1:10:28] Speaker 18: think one looking at continuing to place the spotlight on
[1:10:33] Speaker 18: this and also to look at what other places have done.
[1:10:37] Speaker 19: There have been some.
[1:10:40] Speaker 18: Not only in the limiting solitary confinement, some places have
[1:10:44] Speaker 18: also introduced things that would create oversight to review prison
[1:10:50] Speaker 18: deaths and so that like having someone who is looking
[1:10:53] Speaker 18: into why people are dying.
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: On make Congo.
[1:11:01] Speaker 12: Well, thank you so much for your incredible work and research.
[1:11:04] Speaker 8: I'm thinking about the law enforcement idea of, you know,
[1:11:07] Speaker 8: suicide by cop, when you know somebody raises a gun
[1:11:10] Speaker 8: to the police and they know that they're going to
[1:11:11] Speaker 8: get shot because they because they've done so are do
[1:11:15] Speaker 8: you find situations like that happening? Given this solitary confinement
[1:11:19] Speaker 8: you're saying it's not supposedly more than fifteen days you
[1:11:22] Speaker 8: and Representative Johnson is talking about is over five hundred
[1:11:25] Speaker 8: days it's like you can almost predict the natural result
[1:11:29] Speaker 8: of what would happen by keeping somebody like that. So
[1:11:32] Speaker 8: isn't that kind of another type of suicide by prison
[1:11:36] Speaker 8: guard type of mindset here?
[1:11:39] Speaker 18: I mean, interestingly enough, I would say yes, And note
[1:11:42] Speaker 18: like so, one of the things that we find more
[1:11:45] Speaker 18: so more commonly is that there is a lack of
[1:11:49] Speaker 18: presence from corrections officers in solitary confinement. And so you
[1:11:53] Speaker 18: see that like in the Mississippi Department of Corrections policy,
[1:11:58] Speaker 18: people who are in restrictive housing should be checked on
[1:12:00] Speaker 18: more frequently than people in the general population, but because
[1:12:04] Speaker 18: of things like understaffing in the prisons, they are largely
[1:12:08] Speaker 18: unsupervised and sometimes may even not be checked on less.
[1:12:11] Speaker 18: So we haven't even in some cases some people who
[1:12:14] Speaker 18: have died by suicide, they weren't found for hours, rigamortis
[1:12:17] Speaker 18: has set in by the time that their bodies were found,
[1:12:21] Speaker 18: and so you know, it's kind.
[1:12:22] Speaker 3: Of opposite on that aspect.
[1:12:24] Speaker 18: But yes, these are tortuous conditions that people are in
[1:12:28] Speaker 18: that there is a large body of research saying this
[1:12:31] Speaker 18: is harmful and heightens the risk of suicide, worsens mental
[1:12:35] Speaker 18: health conditions, and you know, when you keep people in
[1:12:38] Speaker 18: under these conditions like what is expected to happen?
[1:12:43] Speaker 12: Mm hm oh, thank you?
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: All right? Then did'd you tell people where they can
[1:12:47] Speaker 1: actually check out their boarding?
[1:12:50] Speaker 18: Yes, this investigation can be found at Themarshallproject dot org
[1:12:55] Speaker 18: in Mississippi today.
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: That all right then we we s appreciate it. Thank
[1:13:01] Speaker 1: you so very much. Thank you. All right, folks, go
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: to a break, we come back Blackstart Network head lieser
[1:13:10] Speaker 1: of Britney Noble, and we'll also share with you what's
[1:13:15] Speaker 1: happening in the La Mayoral Race. And of course here
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: from Warwick Done, we're talking about what his foundation and
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[1:13:26] Speaker 1: to be raised for. You're watching Roland Martin on Bilchin
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[1:14:57] Speaker 13: Hi, I'm Swing Cash Basketball Hall of Famer and your
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[1:15:09] Speaker 1: Folks, to have a Blackstar Network, he allows with Brittain Noble.
[1:15:14] Speaker 15: Over the weekend, two mass shootings increased concerns about public
[1:15:18] Speaker 15: safety at large gatherings. Incidents in both Kansas City, Missouri,
[1:15:21] Speaker 15: and Toledo, Ohio left twenty one people injured. Early Saturday morning,
[1:15:26] Speaker 15: Kansas City police responded to the seventy nine hundred block
[1:15:29] Speaker 15: of Trost Avenue after reports of gunfire. Officers arrived around
[1:15:33] Speaker 15: four am and found a large crowd dispersing from the area.
[1:15:37] Speaker 15: Authorities say nine adults were injured, but suffered non life
[1:15:40] Speaker 15: thretning injuries.
[1:15:41] Speaker 7: And i was expected to survive.
[1:15:43] Speaker 15: However, bullets reportedly struck nearby homes, and just hours later,
[1:15:47] Speaker 15: in Toledo, gunfire broke out near the annual Old West
[1:15:52] Speaker 15: End Festival. Twelve people between the ages of fourteen and
[1:15:56] Speaker 15: sixty one were injured. Police believed that two people may
[1:15:59] Speaker 15: have been hiring at each other in the crowd after
[1:16:01] Speaker 15: a fight broke out.
[1:16:03] Speaker 7: All victims are reportedly in stable care.
[1:16:05] Speaker 15: The Toledo shooting forced the organizers to cancel the festival's
[1:16:10] Speaker 15: final day. In both cases, authority say the investigations remain active.
[1:16:14] Speaker 15: In those suspects have been taken into custody. A black
[1:16:18] Speaker 15: man from North Carolina has been released after spending more
[1:16:21] Speaker 15: than fifty days in jail for being wrongly identified as
[1:16:25] Speaker 15: a suspect in the crime that occurred in Florida. Jalo
[1:16:28] Speaker 15: Richardson was charged with the vehicle theft and connection with
[1:16:31] Speaker 15: an incident in Jacksonville in April of twenty twenty five.
[1:16:35] Speaker 15: A sheriff's deputy used AI technology to identify Richardson as
[1:16:39] Speaker 15: an eighty five percent match to a person captured in
[1:16:42] Speaker 15: surveillance footage from a nearby public store. Will The State
[1:16:46] Speaker 15: Attorney's office stand that the identification, along with two eye
[1:16:50] Speaker 15: witness accounts, was sufficient to establish probable cause for Richardson's arrest.
[1:16:55] Speaker 7: Prosecutors later dropped the case.
[1:16:57] Speaker 15: When evidence revealed that he was in fact hundreds of
[1:17:00] Speaker 15: miles away in North Carolina at his job at the
[1:17:03] Speaker 15: time of the crime. Richardson has described his experience as
[1:17:06] Speaker 15: racial profiling, stating that the arrest cost him his job,
[1:17:10] Speaker 15: his home, and custody of his children.
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: There was no proper investigation done.
[1:17:17] Speaker 4: To even reach out to me or to see if
[1:17:22] Speaker 4: I was even in Florida, and I sat in there
[1:17:25] Speaker 4: for over fifty days in the most worst jail ever.
[1:17:28] Speaker 4: I'm not sure how I'm gonna bounce back from this one,
[1:17:31] Speaker 4: you know, it's a lot.
[1:17:33] Speaker 1: I'm just taking it one day.
[1:17:34] Speaker 3: At a time.
[1:17:36] Speaker 15: According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Richardson is believed to
[1:17:39] Speaker 15: be at least the fourteenth person in the United States
[1:17:43] Speaker 15: wrongfully arrested due to the facial recognition misidentification. A lawsuit
[1:17:48] Speaker 15: is currently attempting to block a UFC Fight nine event
[1:17:52] Speaker 15: schedule to take place at the White House. The lawsuit
[1:17:55] Speaker 15: was filed by two Virginia residents who argue that the
[1:17:57] Speaker 15: event is unlawful under Nashville Park regulations. They also contend
[1:18:02] Speaker 15: that Trump stands to gain financially from the event because
[1:18:05] Speaker 15: of his ownership stake in the UFC's parents company. Despite
[1:18:08] Speaker 15: the legal challenge, the White House intends to proceed with
[1:18:11] Speaker 15: the event on June fourteenth, and has labeled the lawsuit
[1:18:14] Speaker 15: as baseless and dilatory. A flesh eating parasite that has
[1:18:19] Speaker 15: been eradicated over forty years ago has reappeared in cattle
[1:18:23] Speaker 15: in Texas. On June third, the Agriculture Department announced the
[1:18:27] Speaker 15: detection of the New World screw worm and a calf
[1:18:31] Speaker 15: in the state, with the second case confirmed just two
[1:18:34] Speaker 15: days later. The parasite targets warm blooded animals by laying
[1:18:38] Speaker 15: its eggs in the open wounds. Once the larva hatched,
[1:18:42] Speaker 15: they consume living tissue and can be fatal if not
[1:18:45] Speaker 15: treated promptly. The screw worm was successfully eradicated in nineteen
[1:18:49] Speaker 15: eighty two through the release of millions of sterile flies,
[1:18:53] Speaker 15: which prevented the species from reproducing. In response to this resurgence,
[1:18:57] Speaker 15: federal officials are once again employing the sale a strategy
[1:19:01] Speaker 15: to curb the parasite spread. The USA is investing seven
[1:19:04] Speaker 15: hundred and fifty million dollars in a new facility in
[1:19:07] Speaker 15: Texas that will produce hundreds of millions of seral flies
[1:19:11] Speaker 15: each week. Experts caution that a widespread outbreak could lead
[1:19:15] Speaker 15: to nearly two billion dollars in annual losses for Texas
[1:19:19] Speaker 15: livestock producers due to animal losses, treatment costs, and additional labor.
[1:19:25] Speaker 15: A jury awards thirteen million dollars to the family of
[1:19:29] Speaker 15: a Star Trek Star in a wrongful death lawsuit. Michelle
[1:19:32] Speaker 15: Nichols was widely recognized for her role as Lieutenant Aurora.
[1:19:37] Speaker 15: She became a trailblazer as the first black woman to
[1:19:41] Speaker 15: play a lead role on TV, but after her death
[1:19:43] Speaker 15: in twenty twenty two, her family filed a lawsuit against
[1:19:46] Speaker 15: the New Mexico hospital, where she'd been admitted for shortness
[1:19:49] Speaker 15: of breath and other symptoms consistent with acute heart failure.
[1:19:53] Speaker 7: Now, according to.
[1:19:54] Speaker 15: The family's lawsuit, Nichols should have been given a full
[1:19:57] Speaker 15: cardiac examination, but instead, the eighty nine year old was
[1:20:02] Speaker 15: sent to the observation unit and then discharged to an
[1:20:05] Speaker 15: assistant living home, where she died seven hours later.
[1:20:09] Speaker 7: Nichol's son has said that he filed the lawsuits.
[1:20:12] Speaker 15: In part to shed light on the medical mistreatment because
[1:20:15] Speaker 15: if it could happen to a celebrity like his mom,
[1:20:18] Speaker 15: it could happen to anyone. And the basketball world is
[1:20:22] Speaker 15: mourning the loss of Stacy King, the former Chicago Bulls
[1:20:26] Speaker 15: big man and longtime broadcaster, died over the weekend at
[1:20:29] Speaker 15: the age of fifty nine.
[1:20:31] Speaker 7: King spent eight seasons in the league after.
[1:20:34] Speaker 15: Being selected sixth overall in the nineteen eighty nine NBA
[1:20:37] Speaker 15: Draft by the Bulls.
[1:20:39] Speaker 7: He quickly became part of one.
[1:20:40] Speaker 15: Of basketball's greatest dynasties, helping the Bulls capture three straight
[1:20:45] Speaker 15: NBA championships alongside Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. During the
[1:20:50] Speaker 15: franchise's legendary early nineties run. After his time in Chicago,
[1:20:55] Speaker 15: King went on to play for several NBA teams, including
[1:20:58] Speaker 15: the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Boston Celtics. Following his playing days,
[1:21:02] Speaker 15: he became a fan favorite broadcaster, known for his energetic calls,
[1:21:06] Speaker 15: memorable catchphrases, and larger than life personality behind the microphone.
[1:21:12] Speaker 15: The Chago Bulls announced King's passing on Sunday, but did
[1:21:15] Speaker 15: not provide a cause of death.
[1:21:18] Speaker 7: King will certainly be missed, folks.
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the breakdown for the Noble every day,
[1:21:27] Speaker 1: noon Eastern right here on the Blackstar Network. Again, the
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: breakdown for the Noble everyday, noon Eastern on the Blackstar Network.
[1:21:34] Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Los Angeles mayor race and man
[1:21:36] Speaker 1: the right wing MAGA people out of their mind because
[1:21:40] Speaker 1: they're poor, grossly unqualified, and uneducated and really stupid. Candidate
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt is now in third place and he's not
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: going to be in the run off. Incumbent Mayor Karen
[1:21:54] Speaker 1: Bass has thirty four point seven percent of the votes
[1:21:57] Speaker 1: so far, as she has two hundred and fifty eight
[1:21:59] Speaker 1: hundred seventy one votes. Nith yea ramand she is on
[1:22:05] Speaker 1: a city council. She has twenty seven point one percent
[1:22:08] Speaker 1: one hundred ninety ninety eight votes. She's a three thousand
[1:22:11] Speaker 1: vote lead against former Reality participant Spencer Pratt, he has
[1:22:17] Speaker 1: twenty six point seven percent. And so the right wing
[1:22:19] Speaker 1: people have been going crazy on social this Donald Trump
[1:22:22] Speaker 1: yelling the same things, thinking, oh my god, the election
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: was rigged. Why do they take so long counting ballots
[1:22:29] Speaker 1: in California. Well, first of all, the way that everything
[1:22:34] Speaker 1: is not about you know, oh you early voting people
[1:22:37] Speaker 1: like Van Lathan. He posted he dropped his ballot in
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: the mail on Tuesday. Well, if you if the law
[1:22:43] Speaker 1: allows for you to have your ballot postmarked by election day,
[1:22:48] Speaker 1: it kind of takes time for the ballots to come
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: in and for the ballots to be counted. Okay, that's
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: not a big deal. It's a no brainer. The other thing, Derek,
[1:23:00] Speaker 1: the people don't understand is that, and this is the
[1:23:02] Speaker 1: problem with a lot of people. They assume that on
[1:23:06] Speaker 1: election night, all ballots, all ballots have been counted. That's
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: not true. I mean, so the problem is you have
[1:23:14] Speaker 1: overseas ballots. Again, if you have a regulation and said
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: postmarked by a certain date and then you have that
[1:23:22] Speaker 1: and so although an election might be called, although somebody
[1:23:27] Speaker 1: might concede, it doesn't mean all of the ballots have
[1:23:31] Speaker 1: actually been counted.
[1:23:34] Speaker 3: You're exactly right, Roland.
[1:23:36] Speaker 14: I mean, listen, I spent twenty two years in the
[1:23:39] Speaker 14: United States Navy. I was overseas ten thousand miles away.
[1:23:45] Speaker 14: Nine times out of ten, I completed an absentee ballot,
[1:23:48] Speaker 14: and they'll tell you as long as you have it
[1:23:49] Speaker 14: postmarked by such a date, it's going to be counted.
[1:23:54] Speaker 9: And then.
[1:23:56] Speaker 3: Every state is different.
[1:23:57] Speaker 14: But for the most part, there's this thing costs certification,
[1:24:01] Speaker 14: and that certification process starts after the election date, rolling
[1:24:06] Speaker 14: seven to ten days after the election date. There's going
[1:24:10] Speaker 14: to be a certification process. That's the actual number. So
[1:24:15] Speaker 14: it's not just the number on Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.
[1:24:20] Speaker 14: You have to look at the totality of the system.
[1:24:23] Speaker 14: And then, last but not least, let's just call it
[1:24:25] Speaker 14: what it is.
[1:24:26] Speaker 3: Rolling. They're losing their minds because.
[1:24:29] Speaker 14: The person that's occupying the Oval office continues today. The
[1:24:33] Speaker 14: twenty twenty election was he won and they cheated him,
[1:24:38] Speaker 14: and so now you're.
[1:24:39] Speaker 10: Going to have this.
[1:24:41] Speaker 3: Poison in our election.
[1:24:43] Speaker 14: Process, thinking that, oh, if the number said this on
[1:24:47] Speaker 14: Tuesday and now it's a different number on Wednesday, somebody.
[1:24:50] Speaker 3: Cheated and that's not the case.
[1:24:52] Speaker 14: We're going to be going back to a special session
[1:24:56] Speaker 14: on dealing with jerry mandering and the election process because
[1:24:59] Speaker 14: they we want to turn our ballance to paper ballots Roland.
[1:25:04] Speaker 3: So we're gonna be going back to the special session
[1:25:06] Speaker 3: on June seventeenth.
[1:25:08] Speaker 14: And what you think if they if they, if the
[1:25:10] Speaker 14: Republicans make this happen, if we go back to paper ballots,
[1:25:14] Speaker 14: we won't know until ten days later. And so this
[1:25:19] Speaker 14: is the kind of problem that we're dealing with when
[1:25:21] Speaker 14: you're gonna have these kind of maga individuals who are
[1:25:24] Speaker 14: going to continue to say, well, if the number was
[1:25:27] Speaker 14: exd that one on that day and now it's why
[1:25:30] Speaker 14: on this day somebody cheated and that's not the case.
[1:25:35] Speaker 1: Well, and that's all you see. I mean, these people
[1:25:38] Speaker 1: are just I mean, they want to wind and complain
[1:25:41] Speaker 1: about everything on the congo and this is just who
[1:25:44] Speaker 1: they are and this is just the latest thing that
[1:25:48] Speaker 1: gets them all hot and bolved.
[1:25:52] Speaker 8: Yeah, and their logic doesn't even make sense. I mean,
[1:25:54] Speaker 8: if there was going to be shitty things going on
[1:25:56] Speaker 8: with this election. You would think that they would have
[1:25:58] Speaker 8: declared victory eleade on the night of. So that's number one, you.
[1:26:02] Speaker 10: Know for Bass.
[1:26:03] Speaker 8: Number two, I believe Bassard Mayor Bass would probably prefer
[1:26:08] Speaker 8: to run against Pratt versus Raman as relates to you know,
[1:26:13] Speaker 8: running in Los Angeles.
[1:26:14] Speaker 12: So that's another thing. I mean, the California voting system
[1:26:17] Speaker 12: is just is what it is. Is takes forever.
[1:26:20] Speaker 8: I mean, at one point Ramon thought that she had
[1:26:23] Speaker 8: lost Suspencer Pratt and now she's back in the league.
[1:26:25] Speaker 8: So yeah, they can make the system easier, they can
[1:26:27] Speaker 8: make the system better or faster, but look at the
[1:26:29] Speaker 8: end of the day, they have a system in place,
[1:26:31] Speaker 8: and you'd rather get stuff right than rushed.
[1:26:34] Speaker 12: And we talked about this last week, you know, the fact.
[1:26:36] Speaker 8: That the only qualification they had for this guy who's
[1:26:39] Speaker 8: former reality star who sold like crystals or whatever, and
[1:26:42] Speaker 8: that's the competition they're putting up against Mayor Bass. They
[1:26:44] Speaker 8: should be ashamed of themselves, but of course they have
[1:26:47] Speaker 8: no shame and all they have is grievance. And it's
[1:26:49] Speaker 8: great to see that another candidate who tried to run
[1:26:52] Speaker 8: on grievous grievance was not able to be successful, and
[1:26:56] Speaker 8: he should have never gotten amount of votes that he
[1:26:58] Speaker 8: got in the first place.
[1:26:59] Speaker 12: But here we are, and really, at the end of
[1:27:01] Speaker 12: the day, Republicans, they need to just move on.
[1:27:03] Speaker 8: The last thing I will say is that they say, oh,
[1:27:04] Speaker 8: these new batches of votes keep coming in and Spencer
[1:27:08] Speaker 8: doesn't have any votes. He's getting zero votes. That's an
[1:27:10] Speaker 8: absolute lie. He's getting votes, just not enough to be
[1:27:13] Speaker 8: able to push forward. So this has been dismantled on
[1:27:16] Speaker 8: several different levels. Republicans need to accept it. But part
[1:27:19] Speaker 8: of their stick is the grievance, because that's the point.
[1:27:22] Speaker 12: At the end of the day.
[1:27:25] Speaker 1: Absolutely, are y'all got to go to a break, we
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[1:29:31] Speaker 1: let me tell you about Chapter Now. If you're in
[1:29:34] Speaker 1: Medicare or about to be, the system is not set
[1:29:37] Speaker 1: up to work for you. Too much fine print, too
[1:29:40] Speaker 1: many plans, and too many people making money off of
[1:29:42] Speaker 1: your confusion. And look, we're used to this. We're no
[1:29:45] Speaker 1: strangers to systems that don't have our best interest at heart.
[1:29:48] Speaker 1: But we don't have to accept it when it comes
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[1:31:02] Speaker 10: It'll blow your mind.
[1:31:11] Speaker 1: You know, folks, I really do hate listening to mainstream
[1:31:17] Speaker 1: national media. Some call them lamestream. And the reason I
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: hated it because it is so driven by a New
[1:31:29] Speaker 1: York DC bias. So perfect example for the past year,
[1:31:37] Speaker 1: how many times have you heard them say Joran Mamdanie,
[1:31:43] Speaker 1: He's the future of the Democratic Party. Then you go,
[1:31:48] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but how because Okay, he's at about democratic socialists.
[1:31:57] Speaker 1: I get it. But this, this is what I understand,
[1:32:02] Speaker 1: and no, I understand it because New York City is
[1:32:04] Speaker 1: the media capital of the world and so therefore the producers,
[1:32:09] Speaker 1: the executives, the host and all of these people. If
[1:32:13] Speaker 1: you're in New York and DC, you drive the conversation.
[1:32:15] Speaker 1: I'm here in Atlanta. CNN used to be headquartered here
[1:32:19] Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and I'll say this here. CNN was a
[1:32:23] Speaker 1: lot different when it was headquartered in Atlanta, and that
[1:32:27] Speaker 1: all changed when Jeff Zucker took over. And that was
[1:32:31] Speaker 1: a huge mistake because he basically shut down CNN in
[1:32:35] Speaker 1: Atlanta moved everyone to New York. And when you do that,
[1:32:39] Speaker 1: you then begin to change what matters, the issues that
[1:32:43] Speaker 1: are covered. And so this is what I and let
[1:32:46] Speaker 1: me be real clear, this is not any hate or
[1:32:48] Speaker 1: shade on Zoran Mamdannie. But you notice they never ever
[1:32:54] Speaker 1: say Andre Dickens, the mayor of Atlanta, Justin Bibb, the
[1:33:02] Speaker 1: mayor of Cleveland. You don't hear them say by Lyles,
[1:33:06] Speaker 1: the mayor of Charlotte, that even though she's announced she's
[1:33:09] Speaker 1: stepping down. You don't hear them say Randall Woodfin, mayor
[1:33:14] Speaker 1: of Birmingham. I mean, I could go on and on
[1:33:17] Speaker 1: and on, and so it's just dumb to me when
[1:33:23] Speaker 1: I listen to that analysis, as if of their black
[1:33:28] Speaker 1: mayors that were not reelected all across the country, many
[1:33:34] Speaker 1: of them in landslides. So I just need y'all to understand.
[1:33:40] Speaker 1: I need you to pay attention to the framing because
[1:33:44] Speaker 1: when they classify Mom Donnie as quote, the future of
[1:33:50] Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, they act as if these other highly
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: successful mayors don't exist, And that to me is idiotic, because, oh,
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: I don't know. Can y'all show me the last New
[1:34:08] Speaker 1: York mayor who actually went on to higher office? Matter
[1:34:23] Speaker 1: of fact, if I had to sit here, if I
[1:34:27] Speaker 1: had to see siri, who was the last New York
[1:34:31] Speaker 1: City mayor to become governor? Let's see here, Oh, the
[1:34:38] Speaker 1: last mayor of New York City to become governor was
[1:34:42] Speaker 1: John T. Hoffman in eighteen sixty nine. Siri, who was
[1:34:51] Speaker 1: the last New York City mayor to become president? Let's see. Oh,
[1:35:02] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no mayor of New York City has ever
[1:35:07] Speaker 1: gone on to become president of the United States. Do
[1:35:13] Speaker 1: y'all see what I'm saying, here, do you now understand
[1:35:16] Speaker 1: when these people are telling you, oh, so and so
[1:35:21] Speaker 1: is the future of the party, they are projecting some
[1:35:28] Speaker 1: bs and then they all run along with it, and
[1:35:32] Speaker 1: so then Political, then Axios, then Notice then Wall Street
[1:35:38] Speaker 1: Journal and the New York Posts and see they all
[1:35:41] Speaker 1: run with this story. And it's bullshit. It's not based
[1:35:46] Speaker 1: upon reality. But what they want to do is they
[1:35:51] Speaker 1: want to create. They want to frame the narrative and
[1:35:54] Speaker 1: control the narrative. And that to me is nonsenseicol it
[1:35:58] Speaker 1: gets on my nerves and I just think it's unbelievably stupid.
[1:36:03] Speaker 1: Let me go to my panel on the CONGO. I
[1:36:05] Speaker 1: want to start with you, and I mean, it really
[1:36:07] Speaker 1: does get on my nerves when producers and hosts and
[1:36:13] Speaker 1: they just don't leave those two places and they see
[1:36:19] Speaker 1: the entire world. And I'm gonna tell you, people need
[1:36:21] Speaker 1: to people understand in those newsrooms, I'm telling you right now,
[1:36:27] Speaker 1: in those in these cable news and broadcast newsrooms, the producers,
[1:36:33] Speaker 1: the executives, they do not wake up in the morning
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: and say, Okay, I'm gonna read the Detroit Free News,
[1:36:41] Speaker 1: the Detroit News and Detroit Free Press. I'm gonna read
[1:36:44] Speaker 1: the Shaw, The Observer. I'm gonna read the New Orlean
[1:36:47] Speaker 1: Towns pick of you. I'm gonna read Missippi today. I'm
[1:36:49] Speaker 1: gonna read the paper in Mempers I'm gonna read it now.
[1:36:53] Speaker 1: They don't do any of that, so they're not getting
[1:36:56] Speaker 1: a national view of what's happening. In fact, I remember
[1:37:01] Speaker 1: O my coongo Obama gets elected two thousand and nine.
[1:37:06] Speaker 1: We have a huge we have a significant financial crisis,
[1:37:09] Speaker 1: and I was in the Columbus, Ohio giving a speech
[1:37:13] Speaker 1: I think it was what it was MK or Black
[1:37:16] Speaker 1: History Month, and they were talking about canceling their rookie
[1:37:19] Speaker 1: cadet class because they didn't have the funds. And so
[1:37:24] Speaker 1: when the stimulus package was passed under Obama, Biden money
[1:37:30] Speaker 1: in there restored that cadet class. But I remember before
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: the before that got passed, I remember going back to
[1:37:37] Speaker 1: CNN and telling Campbell Brown and her team about that,
[1:37:42] Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, y'all need to get Michael Coleman,
[1:37:46] Speaker 1: the mayor of Columbus, on the show to talk about
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: the impact of the of this economy on on his budget.
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: They looked at me like I was crazy. Now, I
[1:37:59] Speaker 1: was like, how about y'all not talk everything out of
[1:38:02] Speaker 1: d C. Well, what happens when the Stimlers gets passed
[1:38:06] Speaker 1: and they were through the class. All of a sudden,
[1:38:08] Speaker 1: it's like they're talking about, oh, well, the Stimuler's bill,
[1:38:12] Speaker 1: this is one of the things get paid for it.
[1:38:13] Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, you know, y'all could have been
[1:38:15] Speaker 1: like four months ahead of the game. If you listen
[1:38:17] Speaker 1: to me. They don't, they don't leave. They think everything
[1:38:21] Speaker 1: revolves around New York City and Washington, d C.
[1:38:25] Speaker 3: And it doesn't.
[1:38:28] Speaker 12: And it's extremely frustrating. I'm right there with you. I
[1:38:32] Speaker 12: knew when you came out from the break. I hope
[1:38:34] Speaker 12: you aired it.
[1:38:35] Speaker 8: You know, it's one of the segments you clip because
[1:38:37] Speaker 8: people need to see this the way that they build
[1:38:40] Speaker 8: up Mom Donnie. And again, like you said, it's not
[1:38:42] Speaker 8: about any beef with them. But you know, Mom, Donnie
[1:38:44] Speaker 8: couldn't win in Texas for a Senate seed in Tallerrico,
[1:38:48] Speaker 8: couldn't win in New York. You know, most like I
[1:38:50] Speaker 8: mean the Democrats, you know, you get people who are
[1:38:52] Speaker 8: right for the areas at the end. You know, we've
[1:38:55] Speaker 8: had our Mayor Brandon Scott Baltimore. Look at what he's
[1:38:57] Speaker 8: doing with education and crime reduction in Baltimore. You have
[1:39:01] Speaker 8: the mayor of Newport News last week as well, and
[1:39:04] Speaker 8: so there are so many incredibly powerful stories that could
[1:39:07] Speaker 8: be told about mayors across this country. I would add
[1:39:10] Speaker 8: an addition to you saying, they're not reading the different newspapers.
[1:39:12] Speaker 8: They're also not traveling to go and seeing these places,
[1:39:15] Speaker 8: So how on the hell are they going to know
[1:39:17] Speaker 8: in any way, shape or form. And one of the
[1:39:19] Speaker 8: things with Mom Donnie, I think it's also like a
[1:39:21] Speaker 8: little bit of fool's gold in terms of the way
[1:39:23] Speaker 8: they're building him up, because you're dealing with somebody who
[1:39:25] Speaker 8: can never run for president because he's a naturalized citizen,
[1:39:28] Speaker 8: and so I feel like there's.
[1:39:29] Speaker 12: Something going on on that level as well, on the
[1:39:31] Speaker 12: back end.
[1:39:32] Speaker 8: But you're absolutely right, there are incredibly powerful stories of
[1:39:36] Speaker 8: black mayors across this country, some who are new, some
[1:39:40] Speaker 8: who've been doing this for a while, who have incredible
[1:39:42] Speaker 8: records that they can run on. But people are always
[1:39:45] Speaker 8: about the person of the moment, the hero of the moment,
[1:39:48] Speaker 8: and that right now, as relates to Mars, it's Mamdani
[1:39:50] Speaker 8: right now, it's Lates, the Senate candidates, it's Tall Rico
[1:39:53] Speaker 8: and Black folks continually get ignored for the incredible work
[1:39:57] Speaker 8: that they're doing at all of the levels where they
[1:39:58] Speaker 8: have representation leadership.
[1:40:00] Speaker 1: Right now, well to that point, and let me be
[1:40:05] Speaker 1: real clear, Derek, I have been very consistent with this.
[1:40:10] Speaker 1: I think it is stupid when media outlets go so
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: and so is a rising star. No, you have to win.
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: So State Representative James Telerico, it's not a rising star
[1:40:28] Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party because he hasn't won. Beta O'Rourke
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: was not a rising star in the Democratic Party because
[1:40:38] Speaker 1: he hadn't won. I remember when it was Huffington Post
[1:40:42] Speaker 1: or Political they were touting rising star Congressman Arthur Davis,
[1:40:48] Speaker 1: and I'm like, why y'all call him a rising star?
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: And then he voted against the Affordable Care Act, his
[1:40:54] Speaker 1: ass got trounced running for governor. He started running. He
[1:40:58] Speaker 1: started running for all sorts of offices and kept losing,
[1:41:01] Speaker 1: kept losing, and I was ripping him left and right.
[1:41:04] Speaker 1: But I just thought it was just dumb, this rising start. No,
[1:41:07] Speaker 1: you need to win, you need to win. Guess what
[1:41:11] Speaker 1: congress Wan Alexandro Okazi Quartes okay uh never met her.
[1:41:17] Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna meet with Montgomery. Uh but
[1:41:19] Speaker 1: but she quickly left and uh and so rising star.
[1:41:24] Speaker 1: I know she's a member of she won, she's a
[1:41:26] Speaker 1: member of Congress. But the bout line is if she
[1:41:29] Speaker 1: runs with the United States Senate, different ball games, she wins.
[1:41:34] Speaker 1: If she runs for president, let's see what happens. I
[1:41:38] Speaker 1: just I just can't stand how national media plays that game.
[1:41:42] Speaker 1: And then they put so much emphasis and they begin
[1:41:45] Speaker 1: to say, yes, a mom, Donnie is the future of
[1:41:48] Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. As if again Dickens doesn't get re
[1:41:52] Speaker 1: elected to a second term in Atlanta by uh by
[1:41:57] Speaker 1: a huge margin. Uh be A doesn't get re elected
[1:42:01] Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Woodfin doesn't get re elected. I mean, it
[1:42:05] Speaker 1: just drives me crazy, and I just want I need
[1:42:08] Speaker 1: people to understand, now, written, people understand this, yere when
[1:42:11] Speaker 1: you watch this show, I'm telling y'all, without a doubt,
[1:42:16] Speaker 1: I don't. I can't watch those other networks without a
[1:42:19] Speaker 1: doubt you were going to see far more diversity of mayors,
[1:42:27] Speaker 1: council members, state reps, state senators, members of Congress on
[1:42:34] Speaker 1: this show than any any show on cable or broadcast television.
[1:42:43] Speaker 1: Because Derek, we're not just looking at New York City
[1:42:48] Speaker 1: in DC. We're looking at Detroit, Memphis, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo,
[1:42:56] Speaker 1: looking at Charlotte, New Orleans, we're looking at Jackson, Mississippi.
[1:43:01] Speaker 1: A much casting a wider net, because that's what we
[1:43:05] Speaker 1: should be doing.
[1:43:08] Speaker 3: You're exactly right, Roland.
[1:43:09] Speaker 14: And let's face it, the media outlets only reporting what
[1:43:15] Speaker 14: the Democratic establishment, what they're allowing the Democratic establishment is
[1:43:21] Speaker 14: behind is Roland.
[1:43:22] Speaker 3: Let's not. Let's not kid ourselves here since nineteen sixty No, no.
[1:43:27] Speaker 12: No, no, no, they're not no, they're not no, they're
[1:43:29] Speaker 12: not know what it is.
[1:43:30] Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. I was at scene there
[1:43:32] Speaker 1: for six years. The people who are deterning this are
[1:43:35] Speaker 1: a small cabal of largely white male executives who say
[1:43:42] Speaker 1: we can only discuss two or three things a day.
[1:43:47] Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I have been in the belly of
[1:43:50] Speaker 1: that beast, and I never understood why. I remember when
[1:43:54] Speaker 1: I filled it for Campbell Brown, I was like, why
[1:43:56] Speaker 1: the hell are we talking about the same damn stories
[1:43:59] Speaker 1: that Woolf talking about And they were talking about at
[1:44:02] Speaker 1: three o'clock and they were talking about at noon. Is
[1:44:05] Speaker 1: it possible that we could actually talk about some other
[1:44:08] Speaker 1: stuff that might be of interest? And then when I
[1:44:11] Speaker 1: tried to bring in non you know, I remember we
[1:44:16] Speaker 1: were gonna discuss a Supreme Court ruling and I wanted
[1:44:20] Speaker 1: to have former Congressman Floyd Flake leading a massive church
[1:44:28] Speaker 1: in Jamaica queens who was president of Wilberforce. And literally
[1:44:37] Speaker 1: a white producer said, who's Floyd Flake? And I went,
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: you live in New York City, and you know who
[1:44:51] Speaker 1: Floyd Flake is. They wanted I forgot who they wanted,
[1:44:56] Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, if we're gonna talk about education,
[1:45:00] Speaker 1: talk to Dak guy. It was the dumbest thing. It
[1:45:03] Speaker 1: was unbelievable how they would look at me like I
[1:45:06] Speaker 1: was nuts when I was introducing people knowledgeable on the issues,
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: but it was people they did not know. That's my problem.
[1:45:15] Speaker 1: This is driven. This is a mainstream media driven deal
[1:45:19] Speaker 1: when they decide who is important who isn't.
[1:45:25] Speaker 14: So based on that point, with all these billionaires who
[1:45:30] Speaker 14: are now purchasing these media outlets and networks, Roland, I
[1:45:35] Speaker 14: don't think it's going to get any better. Right, You
[1:45:39] Speaker 14: got these high tech billionaires who are going to start
[1:45:43] Speaker 14: putting in.
[1:45:44] Speaker 3: Their selected individuals.
[1:45:47] Speaker 14: And now you're going to have Fox Network on steroids
[1:45:51] Speaker 14: at CNN, MS NOW and all these other major outlets.
[1:45:56] Speaker 14: The only reason why I was suggesting the approach making
[1:46:01] Speaker 14: is that when Hakim Jeffries, the Minority Leader, gets on
[1:46:06] Speaker 14: that podium, he can say, as the Minority leader and
[1:46:12] Speaker 14: say this.
[1:46:13] Speaker 3: Is you know, Jasmine Crockett is our rising star, not
[1:46:19] Speaker 3: Tula Rico.
[1:46:21] Speaker 14: She's a duly elected city congresswoman running for the United
[1:46:26] Speaker 14: States Senate.
[1:46:27] Speaker 3: She is our candidate. So that's what I meant by
[1:46:32] Speaker 3: we can push back as.
[1:46:34] Speaker 14: Those of us who are elected can say who when
[1:46:37] Speaker 14: we get on platforms.
[1:46:39] Speaker 3: I mean, that's why I was tuned in on election
[1:46:43] Speaker 3: night on the Blackstar Network.
[1:46:46] Speaker 14: Your Your Program, because you give that unvarnished perspective on
[1:46:50] Speaker 14: election night versus when these billionaires who are starting to
[1:46:54] Speaker 14: take over these major networks rolling. If those individuals don't
[1:46:59] Speaker 14: follow the the script, they're gonna find themselves with their
[1:47:04] Speaker 14: own program like Donaldanmya, I'm others who are starting.
[1:47:07] Speaker 3: So that's what that's the point I was meaning.
[1:47:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, first of all, an individual can
[1:47:13] Speaker 1: decide who they want to endorse. All of that. I
[1:47:18] Speaker 1: get all of that. What I'm talking about is again
[1:47:24] Speaker 1: how they cover, for instance, the last week. You have
[1:47:28] Speaker 1: seen massive coverage of Graham Platner. You have not seen
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: the same coverage of Ken Paxton. Right, you have it,
[1:47:41] Speaker 1: and so all all I'm saying is I just want
[1:47:44] Speaker 1: the audience to be very careful when they when they
[1:47:49] Speaker 1: say this is the future of the Democratic Party. That's
[1:47:54] Speaker 1: why I laugh anytime I see these people and they
[1:47:59] Speaker 1: say that. And again, this is no shade against AOC.
[1:48:04] Speaker 1: When they say, I forgot what somebody was like AOC
[1:48:09] Speaker 1: and Bernie Sanders they're a running Democratic Party, I'm going no,
[1:48:14] Speaker 1: they're not. I'm sorry. Can you show me how many
[1:48:19] Speaker 1: bills of Bernie Sanders and AOC that have actually gotten passed?
[1:48:26] Speaker 1: I mean, Lauren Underwood has actually, to my knowledge, has
[1:48:32] Speaker 1: actually passed more bills than ALC has. She's passed board bills,
[1:48:37] Speaker 1: and Bernie Sanders has. I just want the people to
[1:48:41] Speaker 1: be very mindful of when you hear these things. They
[1:48:45] Speaker 1: are saying these things for a reason, and I'm saying
[1:48:49] Speaker 1: that what we have to do is push back on
[1:48:52] Speaker 1: that particular nonsense. When they said, all right, folks, let
[1:48:56] Speaker 1: me thank Derek and on my Congo for being on
[1:48:58] Speaker 1: today's show. Jyleen sure to thank you so very much, folks,
[1:49:02] Speaker 1: I am here in Atlanta. War Done, former NFL player
[1:49:05] Speaker 1: played for Tampa Bucks, played for the Atlanta Falcons, has
[1:49:09] Speaker 1: an annual celebrity golf classic. His charity does a lot
[1:49:13] Speaker 1: of work in providing furniture of the resources for families
[1:49:17] Speaker 1: who have homes built by Habitat for Humanity. He might
[1:49:20] Speaker 1: remember the story of his mother, a police officer killed
[1:49:24] Speaker 1: and a lot murdered in a line of duty in
[1:49:27] Speaker 1: Baton Rouge, and he's really has had a focus on
[1:49:32] Speaker 1: helping people become homeowners. Now they are expanding what they
[1:49:37] Speaker 1: are doing by focusing on the physical health and the
[1:49:41] Speaker 1: mental health of these families that they helped.
[1:49:45] Speaker 5: Well.
[1:49:45] Speaker 1: Last night at the pairings party and so I got
[1:49:48] Speaker 1: a chance to be there helping with the auction raise
[1:49:51] Speaker 1: some money. Today was the golf tournament. Later will show
[1:49:54] Speaker 1: you some of the sights and sound from the golf tournament,
[1:49:56] Speaker 1: but wanted to have tonight though. You can hear from
[1:50:00] Speaker 1: war Done talking about the great things that he's doing
[1:50:03] Speaker 1: here in Atlanta with the Ward Done Chariteys. Yeah, another
[1:50:09] Speaker 1: year for the golf tournament. For folks who don't know,
[1:50:13] Speaker 1: this is not just about playing golf. It's really providing
[1:50:17] Speaker 1: resources for folks you need.
[1:50:19] Speaker 20: Yeah, for me though, it's really here to help raise
[1:50:24] Speaker 20: money for my hostel Holidays program. But also now we
[1:50:28] Speaker 20: want to educate people on our SCOPE program that we
[1:50:31] Speaker 20: have overall brand of health and wellness where we have
[1:50:33] Speaker 20: health and or wealth. Get the families to get out,
[1:50:36] Speaker 20: get their biometrics, work out, growing vestles in that backyard,
[1:50:40] Speaker 20: cooking health and meals at home, financial health where kind
[1:50:44] Speaker 20: of your future program where we say if you invest
[1:50:46] Speaker 20: in yourself, we will invest in you, or helping them
[1:50:48] Speaker 20: start a savings account. And I'm always stressing needs versus
[1:50:52] Speaker 20: ones and also mental health badies hope where you know,
[1:50:56] Speaker 20: we're trying to help kids and family have a balance.
[1:51:00] Speaker 19: Every day, how they respond adversity, you know, trauma.
[1:51:03] Speaker 1: So for me, you know, we can create.
[1:51:05] Speaker 20: Healthy minds, health dividers. We create a health their communities
[1:51:09] Speaker 20: through our SCOPE program with our Homes of the Holidays
[1:51:11] Speaker 20: and SCOPE that's really.
[1:51:13] Speaker 19: The wrap around support services and all of that really started.
[1:51:16] Speaker 19: For That's how I grew up. We were a.
[1:51:19] Speaker 21: Community, everyone knew each other, we were always outside and
[1:51:22] Speaker 21: those times of change, and you know, technology has changed
[1:51:27] Speaker 21: a lot of things, but at the same time, I love.
[1:51:31] Speaker 19: That community feel and I just want to be.
[1:51:32] Speaker 20: Able to health individuals and families impacted, you know, with
[1:51:36] Speaker 20: the impact on the community and positively.
[1:51:38] Speaker 1: So when was that point where you say, you know what,
[1:51:42] Speaker 1: we need to expand this beyond just providing you know,
[1:51:45] Speaker 1: the furniture and things along those lines up. So what
[1:51:50] Speaker 1: really led to that?
[1:51:51] Speaker 20: Well, I think over the years, you know, you start
[1:51:54] Speaker 20: to see how can I help eliminate a lot more issues.
[1:51:58] Speaker 20: But also in the homes, we give the down payment
[1:52:01] Speaker 20: assistance and were fully partnership, but we also cater the
[1:52:04] Speaker 20: homes to the families likly, with their favorite colors, themes
[1:52:08] Speaker 20: and those things, and so we wanted to just all
[1:52:11] Speaker 20: you got to do is bring your clothes. And for me,
[1:52:15] Speaker 20: you know, I just wanted to be able to really
[1:52:19] Speaker 20: help all families get off to a true fresh start.
[1:52:22] Speaker 19: But I also know that my SCOPE.
[1:52:24] Speaker 20: Program is a part of my journey and how I
[1:52:27] Speaker 20: was raised and the things that I went through and
[1:52:29] Speaker 20: how I really utilize needs versus once how you know,
[1:52:33] Speaker 20: you got to eat healthy, to take care of yourself,
[1:52:35] Speaker 20: to live longer, you got to work out and do
[1:52:38] Speaker 20: those little things. And then everything that I'm talking about
[1:52:42] Speaker 20: when it comes to scope. You know, it's a part
[1:52:45] Speaker 20: of my journey the things that I've been through that
[1:52:47] Speaker 20: I can relate that I know that the impact that
[1:52:49] Speaker 20: my life and they who I am today, who I am,
[1:52:53] Speaker 20: But also how can I now take what I have
[1:52:56] Speaker 20: done an impact that has had on my life, but
[1:52:58] Speaker 20: also go out and help other individuals, other people, other families, communities,
[1:53:04] Speaker 20: be better, live better, have a better mindset about, you know,
[1:53:08] Speaker 20: spending money. And I grew up on needs versus once
[1:53:13] Speaker 20: and you know, thinking about now you invest you know,
[1:53:17] Speaker 20: eighty percent to spend twenty percent, right, think about that?
[1:53:21] Speaker 1: How you can do that?
[1:53:22] Speaker 20: And the outcomes and the returns are down the road.
[1:53:27] Speaker 20: And it's really for the next generation that as we
[1:53:29] Speaker 20: you know, as parents and you know, leaders, we have
[1:53:32] Speaker 20: to lead by example. So you know, for me, it's
[1:53:35] Speaker 20: just I just had great individuals that helped me be
[1:53:39] Speaker 20: who I am. A father figure, my grandmother, you know,
[1:53:43] Speaker 20: just me and along the way for me and coach
[1:53:46] Speaker 20: Bobby Bob and Charlie Ward and coach Dungee, author Blank,
[1:53:50] Speaker 20: Mr Blank, he's the majority owner of the Atlanta Falcons.
[1:53:53] Speaker 20: And you have individuals that have helped you take those
[1:53:56] Speaker 20: steps and along that path to help me who I
[1:54:00] Speaker 20: am today?
[1:54:01] Speaker 19: Something for that.
[1:54:02] Speaker 1: What do you want to say to this generation of
[1:54:05] Speaker 1: football players and athletes. It's a lot more money that
[1:54:09] Speaker 1: they're getting, and what do you want to say to
[1:54:11] Speaker 1: them about creating the legacy beyond the field.
[1:54:16] Speaker 20: Well, you can't just think about the money. You gotta money,
[1:54:19] Speaker 20: you gotta love the game, right, but think about what?
[1:54:23] Speaker 19: What is what can What do you want to be
[1:54:25] Speaker 19: passionate about?
[1:54:26] Speaker 6: Right?
[1:54:27] Speaker 19: What is something that brings passion, that drives you.
[1:54:30] Speaker 1: That motivates you.
[1:54:31] Speaker 19: For me, you're like you wake up every day, it
[1:54:34] Speaker 19: doesn't it's not work to me.
[1:54:35] Speaker 20: It's just something I do because you know, I enjoy
[1:54:39] Speaker 20: doing it and I don't get paid for I've been
[1:54:43] Speaker 20: doing it. The first five years I started this program,
[1:54:46] Speaker 20: I just wrote the check out of my pocket. You know,
[1:54:48] Speaker 20: well the first six years, I just wrote the check
[1:54:50] Speaker 20: out of my pocket, just you know, helping individuals because
[1:54:55] Speaker 20: in reality, is not about me. It's not about all
[1:54:57] Speaker 20: the money. It's about the impact that I can make.
[1:55:00] Speaker 20: And I would tell these young guys, it's like, you know,
[1:55:04] Speaker 20: you want to impact the community, set a legacy, then
[1:55:07] Speaker 20: you're not gonna think about yourself.
[1:55:09] Speaker 19: You're not gonna think about, you know, fancy cars, fancy shoes, clothes,
[1:55:13] Speaker 19: all those things. You're gonna think about.
[1:55:17] Speaker 20: You know, what can I do to impact and change
[1:55:20] Speaker 20: your life that's gonna make someone else's life for another
[1:55:23] Speaker 20: kid live better?
[1:55:24] Speaker 19: Because we all have been through.
[1:55:26] Speaker 20: Journeys, and you think about our journeys, you know, we've
[1:55:30] Speaker 20: had people in our lives that have helped mold us,
[1:55:34] Speaker 20: that go directed us. And nobody's off one hundred cent perfect.
[1:55:39] Speaker 20: No one's gonna always be right. But it's like, who
[1:55:42] Speaker 20: are you gonna surround yourself with as individuals?
[1:55:45] Speaker 19: Right, You're gonna have people in your circle that's gonna
[1:55:47] Speaker 19: push you and.
[1:55:49] Speaker 20: Help you be better or tell you when you're wrong,
[1:55:52] Speaker 20: to help you get back on the right track. Man,
[1:55:54] Speaker 20: that's the type of individuals company that you shoe one
[1:55:57] Speaker 20: in your life who's they're gonna always be real with you.
[1:56:00] Speaker 20: And I tell you what you want to hear, but
[1:56:01] Speaker 20: tell you what you need to hear so that you're
[1:56:04] Speaker 20: taking those steps and being better, so that that's gin.
[1:56:07] Speaker 19: You know, it's hard work, you know, commitment, it's sacrifice,
[1:56:12] Speaker 19: you know.
[1:56:12] Speaker 20: And now that's one thing I always tell guys, what
[1:56:15] Speaker 20: are you gonna sacrifice to be great?
[1:56:17] Speaker 19: What are you gonna do that's gonna be different? And
[1:56:19] Speaker 19: for myself doing that journey.
[1:56:21] Speaker 20: I sacrificed a lot. I gave up a lot of
[1:56:24] Speaker 20: stuff to take the steps to get where I'm at today.
[1:56:26] Speaker 20: It's like, how how can we try to explain to
[1:56:32] Speaker 20: these guys that all the money in the world, you
[1:56:34] Speaker 20: know it can Yeah, that's great, but it's that gonna.
[1:56:38] Speaker 19: Make you a better person.
[1:56:39] Speaker 20: What's gonna make you be the best team and being
[1:56:42] Speaker 20: it's really caring not just about yourself but your.
[1:56:45] Speaker 19: Community people around you. How can you help someone else?
[1:56:48] Speaker 19: And that's gonna have more of a lasting impact than
[1:56:51] Speaker 19: anything that we could ever do.
[1:56:52] Speaker 1: All right, And all the celebrities you had through here,
[1:56:55] Speaker 1: who would you say is the best golfer?
[1:56:57] Speaker 19: The best golfer? That's a tough on right there, because
[1:57:01] Speaker 19: you know all you guys up and down.
[1:57:03] Speaker 20: I know, I know this one guy, his name is
[1:57:05] Speaker 20: Roland Martin, and he hit a lot of people out
[1:57:08] Speaker 20: on the golf course right now.
[1:57:10] Speaker 1: He don't get cut. We know that didn't happen. You
[1:57:14] Speaker 1: got but you gotta You've had Bo Jackson's sterling sharp yea.
[1:57:18] Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I had some really really good guys. But
[1:57:21] Speaker 20: I think Sterling is a pretty good golfer. Fred mccrarry.
[1:57:26] Speaker 20: That's all he does. He golfs all the time, you know,
[1:57:29] Speaker 20: I know, you know, I just had a.
[1:57:32] Speaker 19: Lot of really good guys over the years that have
[1:57:35] Speaker 19: played in the tournament and that have come out and
[1:57:37] Speaker 19: they put on shows.
[1:57:39] Speaker 20: Doesn't mean their team win, but they they actually did
[1:57:43] Speaker 20: their part and and it really you know, their group
[1:57:47] Speaker 20: enjoyed themselves and on the.
[1:57:49] Speaker 19: Golf course, you want to win, but at the.
[1:57:51] Speaker 20: Same time, you really want to engage your group right,
[1:57:55] Speaker 20: engaged him and have a great time together and really
[1:57:59] Speaker 20: just you know, you become you know, you guys are talking,
[1:58:02] Speaker 20: laugh and enjoying each other because those are memories that
[1:58:06] Speaker 20: you're making for you know, for almost five hours on
[1:58:10] Speaker 20: the golf course that I think gonna last, gonna impact
[1:58:13] Speaker 20: people in a positive way. So I don't need guys
[1:58:15] Speaker 20: to be the best golfers in the world.
[1:58:17] Speaker 19: I just need guys to be good golfers. You don't
[1:58:20] Speaker 19: want to hit anybody, but you want them to really
[1:58:23] Speaker 19: go out and the gauge and just.
[1:58:24] Speaker 20: Really you know, build those those relationships because you just
[1:58:28] Speaker 20: never know where those relationships go.
[1:58:30] Speaker 1: Absolutely well, I saw you the Chris Tucker golf tournament
[1:58:33] Speaker 1: three years ago. You're like, man, I want you to
[1:58:35] Speaker 1: play in my tournament. So this is I think this
[1:58:37] Speaker 1: is my third year. So glad to be here.
[1:58:39] Speaker 20: I appreciate you, you know, coming down and supporting and
[1:58:43] Speaker 20: you know, anything I could do to support you, because
[1:58:45] Speaker 20: I mean, I love what you do, so I follow
[1:58:48] Speaker 20: you on YouTube and all those things as well.
[1:58:50] Speaker 19: So I mean, I'm just happy that I got a
[1:58:53] Speaker 19: big tim of like you that I can look up.
[1:58:55] Speaker 19: All right, Glad to be here, yes, sir, I appreciate you.
[1:58:57] Speaker 1: All right, Okay, all right, folks, again, we'll put together
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: a piece and we'll show you what happened on the
[1:59:06] Speaker 1: golf course here the war done. Celebrity golf classics. So
[1:59:11] Speaker 1: and this is also one of the reasons why in
[1:59:13] Speaker 1: the yard, No, I love to play golf, but one
[1:59:15] Speaker 1: of the other reasons why I love to be able
[1:59:18] Speaker 1: to be on the road and travel and do this
[1:59:21] Speaker 1: because you know, last night almost one hundred and thirty
[1:59:24] Speaker 1: thousand dollars I think it's one hundred three thousand dollars,
[1:59:27] Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty five hundred and thirty thousand
[1:59:29] Speaker 1: dollars was raised last night. And to listen to these stories,
[1:59:34] Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have. There was a package they
[1:59:36] Speaker 1: put together of families talking about how they are impacted.
[1:59:40] Speaker 1: And you know, you see lots of stories. You see
[1:59:43] Speaker 1: lots of discussions about athletes and former athletes, and you
[1:59:47] Speaker 1: see the flameouts, you see the arrest for domestic violence,
[1:59:50] Speaker 1: you see all the other drama. Somebody got arrested for
[1:59:54] Speaker 1: drugs or whatever. But you don't see oftentimes these type
[1:59:59] Speaker 1: of stories. So you know, we of course were at
[2:00:04] Speaker 1: the Anthony Anderson Golf Classic last month, the work that
[2:00:07] Speaker 1: they do benefiting the Boys and Girls Club, but actually
[2:00:09] Speaker 1: he's now the money is benefiting the Chadwick bows In
[2:00:12] Speaker 1: School of Fine Arts at Howard University. Then see at
[2:00:15] Speaker 1: the entertainment of his golf tournament, Jeffrey Osborne, the money
[2:00:18] Speaker 1: they raise there for the arts there in his home
[2:00:21] Speaker 1: state of Rhode Island. Brian Jordan, his foundation Alex English,
[2:00:27] Speaker 1: what he does for kids there in South Carolina. I mean,
[2:00:30] Speaker 1: just on and on and on, and so the ability
[2:00:33] Speaker 1: for us to be able to bring you these stories
[2:00:36] Speaker 1: and share for you the things that these folks do.
[2:00:39] Speaker 1: I just think it's just so important because you're not
[2:00:43] Speaker 1: going to see these stories being done elsewhere, and so,
[2:00:48] Speaker 1: and I can tell you right now there are a
[2:00:49] Speaker 1: lot of media people who come to these things, and
[2:00:51] Speaker 1: they also don't cover a lot of these things as well.
[2:00:55] Speaker 1: And so I just think it's just important that we
[2:00:58] Speaker 1: share these stories, we share the good works that the
[2:01:01] Speaker 1: folks are doing and how so many people are impacted.
[2:01:04] Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying earlier. When you get
[2:01:06] Speaker 1: out of the New York City, Washington DC bubble and
[2:01:10] Speaker 1: you travel to Palm Desert, California, you travel here to Atlanta,
[2:01:15] Speaker 1: and then you know, I'm gonna be gonna be on Thursday,
[2:01:18] Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in Nashville, first time playing in the
[2:01:21] Speaker 1: NFL Players Alumni golf Tournament. That's the work that they
[2:01:25] Speaker 1: actually do there as well, if you're talking to Al
[2:01:27] Speaker 1: Smith and others. And so, this is why this network
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[2:01:35] Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff happening out here y'all, and
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: I just I get it. Bottom line is it's just
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[2:01:48] Speaker 1: lot of the gossip and the silly stuff that you
[2:01:51] Speaker 1: see being discussed on the morning shows and other podcasts
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