# Fisk Data Center Revolt. TX Mandates Bible Reading. Disaster Bias Rule Ends. Dem Socialist Takeover?

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 27 Jun 2026, 2 h 28 min.

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6.26.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Fisk Data Center Revolt. TX Mandates Bible Reading. Disaster Bias Rule Ends. Dem Socialist Takeover? _ For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* _ Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[1:53] Speaker 1: regarding the data center of the campus of Fish University
[1:57] Speaker 1: in Nashville. We will talk to the school's president and
[2:01] Speaker 1: the company that will be overseeing the project. Black farmers
[2:05] Speaker 1: in Mississippi are suing a farmer who they say paid
[2:08] Speaker 1: them less than the white South African guest workers brought
[2:11] Speaker 1: into the country by Donald Trump and Elon Musk will
[2:14] Speaker 1: talk with a lawyer on that case. A judge blocks
[2:17] Speaker 1: the naacpace efforts to create majority black voting districts in Mississippi. Also,
[2:23] Speaker 1: white folks who sued in Louisiana want the state to
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[4:06] Speaker 1: The announced by Fish University they were going to be
[4:09] Speaker 1: launching a data center on its campus led to significant
[4:14] Speaker 1: controversy discussion among students, alumni, and folks there in Nashville.
[4:20] Speaker 1: This innovation center that was announced was expansive, and it
[4:25] Speaker 1: led to folks like state represent of Justin Jones protesting
[4:28] Speaker 1: outside the school's gates against this one billion dollar quantumly initiative.
[4:34] Speaker 1: As part of the campus growth plan, Fitz proposed a
[4:36] Speaker 1: four hundred million dollar innovation center to give students an
[4:40] Speaker 1: edge in emergent ai technologies and says the build will
[4:43] Speaker 1: be eco friendly, but critics believe the potential pollution and
[4:47] Speaker 1: strain on local water and energy resources are not worth
[4:51] Speaker 1: the investment. Joining us down, Doctor Eugenia Clark is the
[4:54] Speaker 1: president of Fiske University. Don Harten is the CEO of
[4:57] Speaker 1: the Don Harten Group. They will manage the construction development
[5:00] Speaker 1: of fisk proposed innovation center. Glad to have both of
[5:03] Speaker 1: you here, doctor Clark, I'll start You'll start with you
[5:06] Speaker 1: first and foremost. Thank you this data center on this
[5:10] Speaker 1: campus that being proposed. Is there another university whether HBCUPWIPWBBI,
[5:18] Speaker 1: doesn't matter that has done anything like this, So what
[5:22] Speaker 1: is the model for this on a university campus.
[5:26] Speaker 9: There are many universities that have data centers on their campus,
[5:30] Speaker 9: and I think it was just this week that John
[5:33] Speaker 9: Hopkins announced that they're getting ready to do a huge
[5:36] Speaker 9: initiative with the data center on their campus.
[5:40] Speaker 4: But I think that the question is how.
[5:43] Speaker 9: Many universities have places and spaces on their campus where.
[5:49] Speaker 4: They're running supercomputers.
[5:51] Speaker 9: We refer to them as data centers, but in essence
[5:54] Speaker 9: that's really what it is. The question here that seems
[5:58] Speaker 9: to have triggered the issues of concern, which are absolutely warranted,
[6:05] Speaker 9: is what kind of space are you going to be
[6:08] Speaker 9: allocating to operate these computers? Is it going to have
[6:12] Speaker 9: an impact on our environment? Is it going to soak
[6:16] Speaker 9: up all the resource of energy in our communities? How
[6:19] Speaker 9: is it going to impact our water and noise pollution?
[6:23] Speaker 9: And for the past two plus years, those are things
[6:26] Speaker 9: that we have been looking at and better understanding, not
[6:30] Speaker 9: because Fisk University doesn't have a data center, but because
[6:37] Speaker 9: we've learned that universities of higher education do have centers
[6:42] Speaker 9: like this operating within the confines of their facilities already today,
[6:48] Speaker 9: and many more are being announced, but most recently that
[6:51] Speaker 9: was the most recent one that I read about.
[6:53] Speaker 4: So it is happening.
[6:54] Speaker 1: So when you say so, when you say supercomputers, supercomputers
[6:59] Speaker 1: and data center, that's two different perspectives of how it's seen.
[7:05] Speaker 1: What we have seen over the past couple of years,
[7:07] Speaker 1: we have seen massive protests all across the country Louisiana, Texas,
[7:11] Speaker 1: uh in Virginia, uh in South Carolina, other places as
[7:16] Speaker 1: it relates to data centers in their impact on energy,
[7:20] Speaker 1: on water, on utility bills, and so and so again,
[7:25] Speaker 1: is this a is so is this more akin to
[7:30] Speaker 1: supercomputers on campus that you're calling a data center or
[7:34] Speaker 1: is this like the data centers that we are seeing
[7:37] Speaker 1: exploding being built all across the country.
[7:40] Speaker 9: So, first of all, all data centers are not alike. Right,
[7:43] Speaker 9: We've got that's the first scene. So you know, I
[7:46] Speaker 9: think the data centers that.
[7:48] Speaker 4: You're referencing here what we call hyper scales.
[7:51] Speaker 9: Uh.
[7:51] Speaker 4: These are the.
[7:52] Speaker 9: Big square footage you know, twice the size of football
[7:55] Speaker 9: fields facilities. They're the ones that I've been reading about
[7:59] Speaker 9: as well. Those are the ones that we hear the
[8:01] Speaker 9: most about. No, that is not what we're looking at
[8:04] Speaker 9: doing here at Fisk University. The concept that we are
[8:08] Speaker 9: looking at is more of a micro scale. Therefore, it
[8:13] Speaker 9: is requiring less. Where footage is requiring less, energy is
[8:18] Speaker 9: requiring less. Water is requiring less less less less less.
[8:22] Speaker 9: Because thanks to the outcry of what's happening around these
[8:26] Speaker 9: hyper scaled centers, we're now able to step back and
[8:30] Speaker 9: look at them differently. When you look at these micro
[8:33] Speaker 9: scale centers as well as the environmental impact that can
[8:37] Speaker 9: be managed and controlled with the advent of the technology
[8:42] Speaker 9: that these centers operate under.
[8:45] Speaker 1: We are seeing and I'll go the done with this.
[8:47] Speaker 1: When we are seeing significant criticism in protest of a
[8:52] Speaker 1: data center in Memphis with these turbines, Yes, that of
[8:58] Speaker 1: Elon Musk is building. Even the epas sided with the protesters.
[9:03] Speaker 1: Will this data center have those turbines? Will in terms
[9:09] Speaker 1: of noise, in terms of pollution? Again, if you can
[9:13] Speaker 1: give the public an example, what existing what existing university
[9:17] Speaker 1: will this be modeled after, where people can say, okay,
[9:20] Speaker 1: I can actually look to this example as to what
[9:23] Speaker 1: it would be like on the campus of Fisk.
[9:27] Speaker 4: There are universities all around me right now with the
[9:29] Speaker 4: data centers in them.
[9:32] Speaker 10: Right.
[9:32] Speaker 1: No, No, what I'm saying is, obviously you have critics.
[9:36] Speaker 1: If some if you say, okay, this university, this university,
[9:40] Speaker 1: what we're seeking to build will be very similar to
[9:43] Speaker 1: what they have. Will that then allows someone to then
[9:46] Speaker 1: to be able to see what they have, to be
[9:48] Speaker 1: able to understand it. Because again, a perception of what
[9:51] Speaker 1: a data center is is what is one thing. What
[9:56] Speaker 1: you're describing is the reality of it. And so if
[9:59] Speaker 1: someone doesn't have something to model after, then all of
[10:02] Speaker 1: a sudden they be just thinking about these massive data
[10:05] Speaker 1: centers that are being parts of protests across the country.
[10:08] Speaker 1: So don in terms of so give us that sense
[10:11] Speaker 1: because again, even in Nashville, you've got the protests of
[10:15] Speaker 1: a data center near zoo, and you've got folks saying, oh,
[10:19] Speaker 1: this data center is gonna it's gonna impact the animals,
[10:22] Speaker 1: and so your critics say, well, hell, if they're concerned
[10:24] Speaker 1: about the animals and data center, we should be concerned
[10:27] Speaker 1: about the humans. So give us that perspective.
[10:29] Speaker 11: Definitely, thanks for having a song. Definitely looking at models
[10:34] Speaker 11: is very important. So there's a University of Texas at
[10:37] Speaker 11: Austin they've they've had.
[10:39] Speaker 1: Oh hey hey don don Don Donson, John. We don't
[10:41] Speaker 1: mention that. We don't mention that school on this show
[10:43] Speaker 1: as a text as a text ding them graduate. I'm
[10:46] Speaker 1: just messing, go ahead, go.
[10:47] Speaker 3: Ahead, I got you, I got you. I'll try to
[10:49] Speaker 3: make sure I'll stay away from it.
[10:50] Speaker 1: You go ahead.
[10:52] Speaker 11: But there's University of Arizona. There's actually Vanderbilt has two here.
[10:59] Speaker 11: They have one one that they use for their own compute,
[11:02] Speaker 11: for the IT and those kind of things, as well
[11:05] Speaker 11: as research.
[11:07] Speaker 3: So we see those as models.
[11:09] Speaker 11: Not only that, but when it comes to things of
[11:13] Speaker 11: words you know you haven't heard much of, is that
[11:15] Speaker 11: greenhouse emissions. So Vanderbilt actually has partnered with an organization
[11:22] Speaker 11: that does solar panel farms. So we like that model,
[11:27] Speaker 11: even though you know they're across town, but we like
[11:30] Speaker 11: some of the models that they have. They reduce their
[11:33] Speaker 11: greenhouse emissions, which allow the less pressure on their on
[11:38] Speaker 11: their power grid. They actually I think what I've read
[11:41] Speaker 11: is Vanderbilt uses about seventy seven percent from the elect
[11:45] Speaker 11: from the local electricity and twenty three percent comes from
[11:49] Speaker 11: the energy that they create themselves.
[11:51] Speaker 3: FIST is not quite in that position to do that. However,
[11:55] Speaker 3: we are studying that.
[11:56] Speaker 11: Another model that's not on university campus, A new one
[12:00] Speaker 11: is terror data that's in San Jose that's not open yet,
[12:04] Speaker 11: that's coming in twenty twenty seven. When you look at that,
[12:07] Speaker 11: the reason why we know about that is one of
[12:09] Speaker 11: the engineers that we're considering.
[12:11] Speaker 3: We haven't aligned ourselves with them yet.
[12:13] Speaker 11: But that's a project that they said, hey, look at
[12:16] Speaker 11: what're they're selling us that idea of how to be sustainable.
[12:20] Speaker 11: And the other thing that's important role is the power.
[12:24] Speaker 11: So if we wouldn't be here on this talking about
[12:27] Speaker 11: this project at all, if our local power company didn't
[12:30] Speaker 11: commit it up to thirty megawats of power for us
[12:34] Speaker 11: without any issues.
[12:36] Speaker 3: We actually had to do a system impact study.
[12:38] Speaker 11: When that impact study came back, it told us that
[12:41] Speaker 11: there will be no harm, There will be no drops
[12:44] Speaker 11: in power from anyone else. And furthermore, the biggest thing
[12:47] Speaker 11: they told us that it would not impact anybody else's
[12:51] Speaker 11: utility bills.
[12:54] Speaker 1: In terms of impact on again, student body, staff, things
[13:00] Speaker 1: along those lines. As you are looking at this here,
[13:05] Speaker 1: you know, how are you studying that to make sure
[13:08] Speaker 1: that there's no health impact as well?
[13:12] Speaker 4: Well? We are so you want to ask that I
[13:17] Speaker 4: was going to say we even started this project.
[13:21] Speaker 9: By the way, you should know that when we began
[13:24] Speaker 9: evaluating this concept over two years ago, our absolute first
[13:30] Speaker 9: consideration is the fact that we are right here in
[13:34] Speaker 9: the heart of three seven two eight.
[13:38] Speaker 4: We've been here since eighteen sixty six.
[13:41] Speaker 9: Our neighbors and our students our priority in every decision
[13:45] Speaker 9: that we make, including all of the other elements of
[13:49] Speaker 9: this university campus master plan, not just this one project.
[13:54] Speaker 9: But when you look at how we're visualizing this one project,
[13:59] Speaker 9: we are looking at it from the angles of that
[14:01] Speaker 9: it will definitely not do any harm to those of
[14:06] Speaker 9: us who are here all day every day, the faculty,
[14:10] Speaker 9: the staff, the students.
[14:12] Speaker 4: We are in this space all the time.
[14:16] Speaker 9: So we don't want to put anything in place that
[14:20] Speaker 9: will provide any type of environmental harm.
[14:24] Speaker 4: That could trigger any.
[14:25] Speaker 9: Type of health issues to any of us that come
[14:30] Speaker 9: and work here and spend an ordinate amount of time
[14:34] Speaker 9: here every day.
[14:38] Speaker 3: Don glad, And you know again, it begins with power.
[14:42] Speaker 11: So things where we're going to have to set design criteria,
[14:45] Speaker 11: so we can't we can't talk our way out of it.
[14:48] Speaker 11: We have to engineer. I've been telling people we have
[14:50] Speaker 11: to engineer our way out of this to a good solution.
[14:54] Speaker 11: We have to engineer how the chillers are use, how
[14:58] Speaker 11: they're placed, and when the robust.
[15:01] Speaker 3: Power is going to allow us to not have to
[15:04] Speaker 3: have so many generators.
[15:05] Speaker 11: We've been told le by our engineers we have robust power,
[15:08] Speaker 11: we don't have to We don't have to load up
[15:10] Speaker 11: on generators that create emissions. We can use backup batteries
[15:14] Speaker 11: instead and place them inside. And also we're looking at
[15:17] Speaker 11: ideas like putting the chillers and the cooling towers on
[15:21] Speaker 11: the roof so they will emit sound up and so
[15:25] Speaker 11: if they're midting sound up, then they're not amitting sound out.
[15:28] Speaker 3: But we'll set criteria that like I think.
[15:30] Speaker 11: The city has an eighty decibel limit, we will try
[15:34] Speaker 11: to be under that. So we're doing all those things. Furthermore,
[15:38] Speaker 11: we want to make sure when you ride by and
[15:40] Speaker 11: see this data center it looks more like a college
[15:42] Speaker 11: campus building.
[15:43] Speaker 3: It has to have the aesthetics.
[15:45] Speaker 11: So we're not doing ourselves justice if we don't meet
[15:50] Speaker 11: we don't set the right design criteria and have our
[15:52] Speaker 11: engineers meet it and we can do it. They're doing
[15:55] Speaker 11: this every day across the world, across the country, for
[15:58] Speaker 11: the world for that matter. You know, I actually had
[16:01] Speaker 11: our interns just research a lot of information about data
[16:04] Speaker 11: centers worldwide. They looked at the top ten reasons that
[16:09] Speaker 11: people don't like data centers, and they looked at the
[16:11] Speaker 11: top ten reasons in Nashville, and so some of the
[16:14] Speaker 11: things that we're talking about, just like people are raising,
[16:17] Speaker 11: we can do that. We just everybody engineers. If we
[16:21] Speaker 11: properly engineer our data center will be fine.
[16:25] Speaker 1: In terms of this project, is paying for this project
[16:31] Speaker 1: or it is an external company paying you to have
[16:36] Speaker 1: the center on this campus.
[16:38] Speaker 4: Uh, No one at Kernel is paying us for anything.
[16:41] Speaker 4: We're just going to start there.
[16:43] Speaker 9: So what happened about forty five days ago is FIST
[16:48] Speaker 9: University announced his campus master plan.
[16:52] Speaker 4: This is our strategy and our vision.
[16:56] Speaker 9: That we have for the school to make sure we
[16:58] Speaker 9: can be here another one hundred sixty day, one hundred
[17:01] Speaker 9: and sixty years. The campus is one hundred and sixty
[17:04] Speaker 9: years old. There's so many infrastructure needs here that have
[17:07] Speaker 9: to be addressed. That's all a part of this master plan.
[17:12] Speaker 9: Included in the master plan are some new opportunities. All
[17:17] Speaker 9: of these in each of them will require a different
[17:20] Speaker 9: funding model, a different design model, And what we did
[17:26] Speaker 9: on May fourteenth is share with our community, fully transparent.
[17:30] Speaker 9: This is what we see for FISK for the next
[17:32] Speaker 9: one hundred and sixty years. This is where we want
[17:35] Speaker 9: the conversation to begin. And as soon as we share
[17:39] Speaker 9: that information with community leaders who all showed up here
[17:43] Speaker 9: on campus to hear about it, now, our work really
[17:47] Speaker 9: begins project by project by project.
[17:51] Speaker 4: So no, no one has said that they're paying for anything.
[17:55] Speaker 9: What we have here, though, is a vision that we
[17:57] Speaker 9: are going to be partnering with all shapes, forms and
[18:01] Speaker 9: fashions of financial support to make sure that we can
[18:06] Speaker 9: really lift this campus up to make sure we're still
[18:09] Speaker 9: here for another one hundred and sixty more years.
[18:11] Speaker 4: There's a lot of work to be done here and.
[18:15] Speaker 1: This Innovation Center walk us through in terms of don
[18:20] Speaker 1: you talked about the benefits for the campus in terms
[18:25] Speaker 1: of energy consumption, things along those lines, But what then
[18:30] Speaker 1: else will this center be able to do for the university?
[18:34] Speaker 1: Is it about bringing bringing in external companies, bringing in
[18:40] Speaker 1: them to partner with you explain that as well.
[18:46] Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you know this is kind of hopefully
[18:49] Speaker 11: Dontree Clark's okay with me saying this. There are business
[18:53] Speaker 11: models that data centers have. It's four or five, actually
[18:57] Speaker 11: three or four different business models that might makes sense
[19:00] Speaker 11: for this campus.
[19:01] Speaker 3: So there's a co location.
[19:02] Speaker 11: So most data centers, many of them, I would say,
[19:07] Speaker 11: outside of the hyperscalers, actually co locate and put out
[19:12] Speaker 11: and pay rent, get rent collected from various users from
[19:18] Speaker 11: network I providers and so forth and so on. So
[19:21] Speaker 11: I don't think we're going to rule out the opportunity
[19:24] Speaker 11: to bring actual business and bring dollars to this data center. So,
[19:29] Speaker 11: you know, we could see the opportunity and we still
[19:32] Speaker 11: have engineering. We can see the opportunity for the supercomputer
[19:36] Speaker 11: type model where FISK can do all the research. You know,
[19:39] Speaker 11: we see man Harry, they're set up to do a
[19:42] Speaker 11: lot of medical imaging studies. And then we see an
[19:45] Speaker 11: opportunity for the business model for FIST to generate income.
[19:49] Speaker 11: So I think that we haven't ruled that out, but
[19:51] Speaker 11: we still have a long way to go to figure
[19:53] Speaker 11: out how FISK could bring partners in.
[19:57] Speaker 1: I look, would you lay it down to Clark, are
[19:59] Speaker 1: familiar with the issue that you have in terms of
[20:02] Speaker 1: your infrastructure in the campus, when I was the Rebus
[20:06] Speaker 1: Mitchell Scholar in Residents, I had conversations with then President
[20:09] Speaker 1: Van Newkirk that was a new it was a building
[20:12] Speaker 1: that was being built. I think that y'all had not
[20:15] Speaker 1: had a building built on the campus since the Eisenhower
[20:18] Speaker 1: since Eisenhower was president. Uh and so that's what this
[20:22] Speaker 1: is about. And so in terms of this project, you
[20:26] Speaker 1: have this, you have the data center of the Innovation Center,
[20:30] Speaker 1: but how much how much? What else is in this
[20:33] Speaker 1: in this billion out of a plan When it comes
[20:36] Speaker 1: to construction on the campus, we well.
[20:41] Speaker 9: I'm glad you share with everyone about your history being
[20:44] Speaker 9: here on the campus.
[20:46] Speaker 4: We need a new student center.
[20:51] Speaker 9: We must modernize several of our existing residence halls.
[20:55] Speaker 4: We've got to get that done.
[20:58] Speaker 9: But one of the other projects were really excited about
[21:01] Speaker 9: that we're in the stages of getting started is an
[21:06] Speaker 9: expansion to our John Lewis Center for Social Justice. So
[21:11] Speaker 9: renovations to residence halls. We need a student center, something
[21:15] Speaker 9: that would allow us to be more competitive in this
[21:18] Speaker 9: competitive space to get students to come to Fisk University.
[21:24] Speaker 9: Upgrade to our residence halls. That's an imperative because as
[21:28] Speaker 9: we attract more students, we need a place to house them.
[21:32] Speaker 9: And then you have projects like the expansion that we're
[21:34] Speaker 9: getting ready to do, the annex to the John Lewis
[21:37] Speaker 9: Center for Social Justice.
[21:38] Speaker 4: We're very, very excited about that project and.
[21:40] Speaker 9: Are looking forward to announcing the final outcomes on that,
[21:45] Speaker 9: hopefully here before the end of the end of this
[21:49] Speaker 9: calendar year.
[21:50] Speaker 1: What was what was the lesson here you had? You
[21:53] Speaker 1: had lots of blowback, obviously. Was it a failure to
[22:00] Speaker 1: stand that in this space that we're in now, how
[22:03] Speaker 1: people are responding to data centers, to AI, not fully
[22:07] Speaker 1: taking that into account and being able to walk critical
[22:11] Speaker 1: folks through in terms of explaining really what this is.
[22:16] Speaker 1: Because you obviously had petitions and you had a representative Jones,
[22:20] Speaker 1: you had others who were saying that stakeholders were not
[22:23] Speaker 1: properly informed and communicated with.
[22:27] Speaker 4: So I would have to say not true.
[22:30] Speaker 9: For the past two years, I've been talking to all
[22:33] Speaker 9: kinds of stakeholders. I regret that I didn't get to everyone,
[22:38] Speaker 9: but many will tell you they've been hearing about this
[22:41] Speaker 9: for some time now, not only talking about the concept,
[22:45] Speaker 9: but how we're researching it, how we're evaluating it. So
[22:49] Speaker 9: that's why we went public on May fourteenth to say
[22:53] Speaker 9: this is what we're looking at.
[22:56] Speaker 4: Now let's start getting your feedback, because none of this
[22:59] Speaker 4: is is finalized.
[23:02] Speaker 9: This was a concept that we thought made since for
[23:05] Speaker 9: what we do at this university and the students we
[23:08] Speaker 9: serve today, we are educating students who are born in
[23:13] Speaker 9: the digital age. We have got to have campus resources
[23:18] Speaker 9: that allow us to continue to be competitive in that space.
[23:21] Speaker 9: Because here at this university right now, thirty percent of
[23:25] Speaker 9: our students that graduate annually are graduating in computer science.
[23:30] Speaker 9: This university is known for being a STEM institution under
[23:33] Speaker 9: the Liberal Arts umbrella, and order for us to continue
[23:37] Speaker 9: to excel in that space, we've got to continue to
[23:41] Speaker 9: provide all of the necessary tools that.
[23:44] Speaker 4: Make us competitive.
[23:45] Speaker 9: So, yes, you've heard about the petitions, you've heard about
[23:48] Speaker 9: the blowback, but that does not also equate to all
[23:52] Speaker 9: of those who are cheering us on that are excited
[23:55] Speaker 9: about this project, that believes that the entire campus plan
[24:00] Speaker 9: and makes excellent sense for this because we at this
[24:04] Speaker 9: must figure out how to go from surviving to thriving
[24:08] Speaker 9: and how do we stay competitive in this competitive hire
[24:12] Speaker 9: at marketplace for another one hundred and sixty years.
[24:16] Speaker 4: It's a challenge we're all faced.
[24:17] Speaker 1: With questions from my panel joining us Michael in Hotel
[24:22] Speaker 1: host African Hentry Network show out of Detroit. Glad to
[24:25] Speaker 1: have him here. Nicole Robinson, political law attorney and strategies
[24:28] Speaker 1: from DC, Pat Manning said, writes to turn out of Corporus.
[24:31] Speaker 1: Christy and Michael you first.
[24:34] Speaker 5: All right, thanks for coming on to give more clarity
[24:38] Speaker 5: to this conversation. I recently attended Artificial Intelligence summit here
[24:43] Speaker 5: in Detroit that was organized by Black Tech Saturdays, and
[24:47] Speaker 5: I was wondering, I know you mentioned computer science doctor.
[24:51] Speaker 5: I was wondering if you could talk for a minute
[24:53] Speaker 5: about the careers that your students will be able to
[24:59] Speaker 5: train for at this at qualum Leap, at this data center.
[25:05] Speaker 5: What type of careers for the future is this going
[25:08] Speaker 5: to prepare them for to take advantage of.
[25:11] Speaker 9: Michael, that's an excellent question. And while you're talking about
[25:14] Speaker 9: that conference, I didn't get a chance to attend that one,
[25:17] Speaker 9: but I did speak at a conference out on the
[25:20] Speaker 9: West coast known as ASU plus GSV, and it's where
[25:23] Speaker 9: they bring together higher ed and high tech to have
[25:28] Speaker 9: these conversations about what are we doing to prepare the
[25:33] Speaker 9: workforce of the future. What is really critically important about
[25:38] Speaker 9: when we talk about the skills that we're going to
[25:40] Speaker 9: need for this high tech, fast paced moving workforce of
[25:46] Speaker 9: the future, isn't the technical skills, it's the cognitive skills
[25:52] Speaker 9: that are gained with the liberal arts training. So you
[25:56] Speaker 9: may get computer science here at Fisk University, but all
[25:59] Speaker 9: of the other experiences that we offer our students allow
[26:03] Speaker 9: them to be good, strong cognitive thinkers. Because at the
[26:07] Speaker 9: end of the day, the technology can't replace everyone or everything.
[26:13] Speaker 4: It is to be heavily reliant upon those leaders who
[26:17] Speaker 4: can take learning.
[26:20] Speaker 9: Integrated into machine learning and provide products.
[26:24] Speaker 4: That are useful to all of us. So what we're
[26:28] Speaker 4: doing here at Fisk University is already in place.
[26:31] Speaker 9: We have students that may come to Fisk and be
[26:34] Speaker 9: a FIST Jubilee singer, majoring in bio kim and also
[26:38] Speaker 9: a member.
[26:39] Speaker 4: Of the Rocket team. We have a students you know,
[26:42] Speaker 4: that come to FIST that may major in psychology, be
[26:45] Speaker 4: a member of the Rocket.
[26:46] Speaker 9: Team, and at the same time have a minor in
[26:50] Speaker 9: data analytics. So the thing that makes us unique in
[26:54] Speaker 9: this space and having an innovation center right here at
[26:59] Speaker 9: their fingertipsis will allow us to enrich and expand those
[27:04] Speaker 9: experiences that we're offering them today.
[27:07] Speaker 4: And then finally, I'll share this. When we started having
[27:11] Speaker 4: this conversation about this idea.
[27:13] Speaker 9: A couple of years ago, we immediately went to the
[27:17] Speaker 9: academic leadership of the institution, and those are the deans
[27:21] Speaker 9: here at Fisk University, and they started looking at this
[27:24] Speaker 9: and evaluating this and talking about what will that mean
[27:29] Speaker 9: for the academic experience here at Fisk University, not just
[27:32] Speaker 9: for the students, but also for the faculty and impact
[27:35] Speaker 9: to staff. They've done a marvelous product that I think
[27:39] Speaker 9: we're going to be releasing on Monday that answers your
[27:43] Speaker 9: questions specifically, So make sure I know how to get
[27:46] Speaker 9: in touch with you, because I like to send.
[27:47] Speaker 4: You that report to take a look at.
[27:50] Speaker 1: All right, the call.
[27:53] Speaker 12: Again, thank you both for joining us.
[27:55] Speaker 13: I wanted to talk a little bit more about the
[27:57] Speaker 13: community involvement in the plans for this project. So you've
[28:00] Speaker 13: mentioned that you connected with stakeholders throughout this process. Can
[28:04] Speaker 13: you talk about how you conferred with students and everyday
[28:07] Speaker 13: community members and if you plan to continue collaborating with
[28:11] Speaker 13: them throughout this process.
[28:13] Speaker 4: Oh, because it's not a done process, so we have
[28:16] Speaker 4: lots more to do.
[28:19] Speaker 9: So since I've been here at Fisk University, the one
[28:21] Speaker 9: thing that I have taken to heart and I've spent
[28:25] Speaker 9: an order amount of time doing and will continue to
[28:28] Speaker 9: do as having a series of direct conversations.
[28:31] Speaker 4: I have hosted here.
[28:35] Speaker 9: Countless opportunities for students to come and talk with me,
[28:38] Speaker 9: and they have.
[28:40] Speaker 4: Just did another one. As a matter of fact, last week.
[28:44] Speaker 9: I believe faculty have had conversations with me, staff have
[28:49] Speaker 9: had conversations, and I've had meetings with alumni about what's
[28:53] Speaker 9: going on here because those conversations have been going on
[28:56] Speaker 9: for two and a half years. However, in the last
[29:00] Speaker 9: two years, I've focused those conversations more on a master plan.
[29:05] Speaker 9: What do we want for Fisk that will help us
[29:10] Speaker 9: stay in this space and thrive in this space. Because
[29:16] Speaker 9: Fis University is the first institution of higher education.
[29:19] Speaker 4: Here in Nashville, we want to hang on to that.
[29:24] Speaker 4: We want to be the HBCU along with the other
[29:26] Speaker 4: three that here are here in our.
[29:28] Speaker 9: Community that are continuing to lift up the brand and
[29:31] Speaker 9: the value of these institutions. So it requires that I'm
[29:36] Speaker 9: having conversations with my elected officials, with the alumni, with
[29:43] Speaker 9: residents of the community. We're doing more of those on Monday.
[29:47] Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, I think I have two
[29:48] Speaker 9: on Monday. I mean, this has not this is not
[29:52] Speaker 9: something that just happened.
[29:54] Speaker 4: This has been going on for over two years.
[29:56] Speaker 9: By announcing it publicly, this is just allowing everyone else
[30:01] Speaker 9: who hasn't had a chance to be a part of
[30:03] Speaker 9: the conversation to not come join. And yes, the answer
[30:06] Speaker 9: to your question is definitely. Our doors are opening and
[30:10] Speaker 9: we're going to restart more of those conversations as we
[30:12] Speaker 9: continue on this journey.
[30:14] Speaker 8: Matt Manning, Yeah, So I have a couple of quick questions.
[30:20] Speaker 14: I'm a Howard man, not a Fisk man, but I
[30:22] Speaker 14: know at Howard they've got a number of programs where
[30:24] Speaker 14: they partner with like investment banks and others to give
[30:27] Speaker 14: students kind of a pipeline.
[30:29] Speaker 8: So the first question is are there any.
[30:31] Speaker 14: Cemented agreements that you have with any technological companies to
[30:34] Speaker 14: give Fisk University graduates a leg up through this data center?
[30:38] Speaker 3: Number one?
[30:39] Speaker 8: Number two, as it relates to the.
[30:40] Speaker 14: Data center, are there any agreements with those companies to
[30:44] Speaker 14: get what's produced there, and how is fisking going to
[30:48] Speaker 14: leverage that data that's coming through the center. And then
[30:51] Speaker 14: the final question is is any of this costs going
[30:53] Speaker 14: to be pushed onto the students? Is there going to
[30:56] Speaker 14: be a tuition increase or any kind of financial detriment
[30:59] Speaker 14: to them for building the center?
[31:02] Speaker 9: So you ask three very distinct questions, but they all
[31:06] Speaker 9: are sort of coupled in the same answer.
[31:09] Speaker 4: The model that we're looking at is not going to
[31:12] Speaker 4: generate more cost to students.
[31:16] Speaker 9: The models that we are evaluating is that whoever we
[31:20] Speaker 9: identify as a partner.
[31:21] Speaker 4: And we do not have one.
[31:24] Speaker 9: And the reason we don't have a partner I think
[31:26] Speaker 9: is important to share this university has first got to
[31:30] Speaker 9: confirm what we want our standards to be in order
[31:35] Speaker 9: to be a partner with us. And then the other
[31:38] Speaker 9: answer to your question is this will all be a
[31:41] Speaker 9: part of the individuals that come forward or the businesses
[31:45] Speaker 9: that come forward to say they want to be a
[31:47] Speaker 9: part of this unique model that they can now say,
[31:51] Speaker 9: we know what your expectations are and this is how
[31:54] Speaker 9: we can deliver to it. I will share this though
[31:58] Speaker 9: with all the partners we currently we have here at FISC,
[32:01] Speaker 9: whether it's in fintech, or healthcare or social justice.
[32:07] Speaker 4: When we start those conversations, we start by saying, what
[32:11] Speaker 4: are the opportunities you'll be providing to our students, i e.
[32:15] Speaker 9: Coaching, mentoring, internships, and those are some of the most
[32:21] Speaker 9: robust programs we have here at.
[32:22] Speaker 4: FISC and that is a requirement we have with the
[32:25] Speaker 4: partners we have today.
[32:27] Speaker 9: I can assure you that whoever we talk to as
[32:31] Speaker 9: a partner for this innovation center, they have to know
[32:34] Speaker 9: that's what our standard is.
[32:41] Speaker 1: Okay, so you said, so here's the question, how do
[32:44] Speaker 1: you pay for it? How do you pay for this?
[32:47] Speaker 1: And then when and when do you hope to break
[32:51] Speaker 1: ground on this innovation center.
[32:53] Speaker 9: That's a tough question to answer right now because we're
[32:56] Speaker 9: still working and identifying with the guidelines and parameters are
[32:59] Speaker 9: going to be for a data center in the Metro
[33:02] Speaker 9: national marketplace. So, for instance, right now, we're working with
[33:06] Speaker 9: the Metro Planning Commission, We're working with Metro Council and
[33:11] Speaker 9: other community constituents because before we can take this product into.
[33:16] Speaker 4: The market, we have to know what the parameters are
[33:21] Speaker 4: around it.
[33:22] Speaker 9: We know a few things right now. We know about
[33:24] Speaker 9: the energy, we know more about the water. We know
[33:27] Speaker 9: about a little bit more about safety and security. What
[33:30] Speaker 9: we don't know are the other guidelines that need to
[33:32] Speaker 9: come through our metro planning process. Once we have all
[33:36] Speaker 9: that bundle along with the desires and wishes of an
[33:41] Speaker 9: institution of higher education and relationship to the students that
[33:44] Speaker 9: we serve, then we'll go into the marketplace.
[33:46] Speaker 4: The only thing I know is this, we are not
[33:49] Speaker 4: selling our land to do this.
[33:52] Speaker 9: We're looking at land that this university owns and has owned,
[33:57] Speaker 9: and we're looking at building out and developing some space
[34:00] Speaker 9: that's undeveloped on our campus right now.
[34:05] Speaker 1: Right Well, we look forward to seeing as as these
[34:08] Speaker 1: details developed. We appreciate walking us through this obviously. Uh,
[34:14] Speaker 1: there are the critical issue that we always talk about.
[34:18] Speaker 1: Uh and oh, I will we'll ask this, so don
[34:21] Speaker 1: your company? Are you the prime contractor on this.
[34:26] Speaker 11: No, our role is is owner's rep. We're the owner's
[34:30] Speaker 11: representative on this particular project. We're a general contractor. But
[34:35] Speaker 11: we're you know, doing something on this scale as a
[34:37] Speaker 11: data center is not not our capacity. We are doing
[34:42] Speaker 11: other project projects on the campus, but not the data center.
[34:45] Speaker 1: Gotcha, and doctor Clark, I'm here, I'm sure that when
[34:50] Speaker 1: it comes to building this, uh, you'll be looking at
[34:54] Speaker 1: black construction companies.
[34:57] Speaker 4: We always what do you think?
[34:58] Speaker 3: Why do you think?
[34:59] Speaker 1: Don no, no, no, no he did this ain't my
[35:03] Speaker 1: first road to you. I always ask no, no, no, no, no, no.
[35:08] Speaker 3: Question.
[35:09] Speaker 4: Please please promise me that you're going to have us back.
[35:13] Speaker 9: When we're ready to give you an update on all
[35:14] Speaker 9: the other specifics that we can't answer today because we're
[35:17] Speaker 9: still working with the process. I would love to come
[35:20] Speaker 9: back and then actually show you where we come from
[35:23] Speaker 9: from today to then and what does it look like
[35:27] Speaker 9: and who what are the parameters by which we're going
[35:30] Speaker 9: to operate this?
[35:32] Speaker 6: Oh?
[35:32] Speaker 1: Absolutely so that No, I'm not problem with that. I
[35:36] Speaker 1: own this. I don't ask anybody, So that's that's not
[35:38] Speaker 1: a problem. So we'll do that. There is a Monday
[35:41] Speaker 1: there's a town hall six thirty Central Yes when North
[35:45] Speaker 1: Nashville leaders will host the community town hall on the
[35:47] Speaker 1: Fish University of Data Center. It's taking place at Lee
[35:49] Speaker 1: Chapel Am Church, twelve hundred Drive, dB Todd Junior Boulevard.
[35:54] Speaker 1: The NAACP Nashville branch will be hosting that town hall.
[35:58] Speaker 1: I sutinly appreciate it. Doctor Clark, Thank you very much.
[36:01] Speaker 1: Don think it's done hard. Think it's the ViRGE as well.
[36:04] Speaker 3: Thank you sir for having us.
[36:05] Speaker 1: All Right, folks, going to a break. We'll be right back.
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[38:15] Speaker 1: Trump administration has tossed out the anti discrimination rule governing
[38:19] Speaker 1: disaster aid. Beginning next week, the Department of Homeland Security
[38:23] Speaker 1: will no longer insist that state and local governments go
[38:27] Speaker 1: out of their way to ensure that when they give
[38:29] Speaker 1: out federal disaster aid, they do not inadvertently do so
[38:33] Speaker 1: in ways that disadvantage racial minorities. While DHS will still
[38:37] Speaker 1: prohibit discrimination intentionally, is that local governments no longer have
[38:42] Speaker 1: to consider it if their disaster relief efforts unintentionally further
[38:47] Speaker 1: racial inequality. One example, last year marked the twentieth anniversary
[38:52] Speaker 1: of Hurricane Katrina. After the storm, DHS distributed disaster relief
[38:56] Speaker 1: funds based on the property value of what was destroyed,
[39:00] Speaker 1: which meant that rich white neighborhoods and business districts quickly rebuilt. Meanwhile,
[39:06] Speaker 1: parts of the poor black lord ninth ward still have
[39:08] Speaker 1: not been rebuilt to this day. Also, keep in mind
[39:12] Speaker 1: that was there the Biden administration, they were going to
[39:17] Speaker 1: advance a lawsuit as it relates to in Texas where
[39:21] Speaker 1: they received a billion dollars after Hurricane there, and they
[39:25] Speaker 1: chose not to give that money to Harris County. The
[39:29] Speaker 1: Biden administration laid out that by as a result, they
[39:33] Speaker 1: were herding African Americans and Latinos. Pro Publica did a
[39:37] Speaker 1: huge story on this. What did Donald Trump's administration do.
[39:40] Speaker 1: They completely got rid of that particular lawsuit. What this
[39:45] Speaker 1: goes to show you, Matt, is that this administration absolutely, positively,
[39:50] Speaker 1: without a doubt, it's anti black. They do not care
[39:55] Speaker 1: about black people or Latinos and people of color. And
[39:59] Speaker 1: so for the folks who vote for them, understand, you're
[40:02] Speaker 1: literally voting against your own interest if you're supporting this
[40:06] Speaker 1: white nationalist administration.
[40:10] Speaker 8: And it's going to be buttressed in the legal filings
[40:13] Speaker 8: by the Supreme Court's recent decision in the voting rights
[40:17] Speaker 8: cases talking about discrimination and basically that it's got to
[40:21] Speaker 8: be intentional discrimination.
[40:23] Speaker 14: What's almost certainly going to happen now, despite the fact
[40:26] Speaker 14: that they're completely different, you know, substantive areas of the
[40:30] Speaker 14: law is you're going to see citations to this idea
[40:33] Speaker 14: that unless it's intentionally discriminatory, you won't be able to
[40:38] Speaker 14: divine someone's intent as it relates to why, you know,
[40:41] Speaker 14: Contingency A of citizens got money and Contingency B did
[40:46] Speaker 14: not get as much money or a proportional.
[40:49] Speaker 8: Amount of money. And what it's going to ultimately come
[40:51] Speaker 8: down to is it's going.
[40:52] Speaker 14: To give further discretion for this administration to do exactly
[40:55] Speaker 14: what you said, which is disadvantage black people, but to
[40:58] Speaker 14: do it under the guise of of, you know, some
[41:01] Speaker 14: other pretextual reason why they're not given the same amount
[41:04] Speaker 14: of money. And what you're seeing this administration do is
[41:08] Speaker 14: attack every aspect of life in this same regard, but
[41:12] Speaker 14: try to couch it almost in this this legal you
[41:15] Speaker 14: know argument that they're getting from the highest court in
[41:17] Speaker 14: the land, which is that it's okay if you're not
[41:20] Speaker 14: you know, intentionally discriminating. But the problem with that is
[41:23] Speaker 14: it's just like the deliberate and different standard or other
[41:26] Speaker 14: legal standards I deal with all the time, where it's
[41:29] Speaker 14: very obvious what's happening. It's just enshrouded in different language.
[41:33] Speaker 14: And what they're going to say now is, oh, there's
[41:35] Speaker 14: some other reason why the money is not being allocated appropriately,
[41:39] Speaker 14: when we know what it is is that they either
[41:40] Speaker 14: don't care about the people who are receiving that money
[41:44] Speaker 14: or they're abjectly being racist.
[41:45] Speaker 8: And I don't think you're wrong about the.
[41:47] Speaker 14: Administration continuing to signal to us which along those groups
[41:51] Speaker 14: it lies.
[41:59] Speaker 1: And we have been building this case and just story
[42:03] Speaker 1: after story, Nicole, on what it is these folks are doing.
[42:08] Speaker 1: And if this is simply the latest one you take,
[42:13] Speaker 1: of course, the Supreme Court decision we're going to temperate
[42:15] Speaker 1: protective status for Haitians. You have a Supreme Court decision
[42:21] Speaker 1: sixty three where that could put three hundred and fifty
[42:24] Speaker 1: thousand Haitians and sixty one hundred Syrians in jeopardy. Now
[42:30] Speaker 1: here's the thing that's crazy. Here you have and if
[42:33] Speaker 1: you want to understand how Maga thinks, you want to
[42:36] Speaker 1: understand why they're thinking this way, all you have to
[42:40] Speaker 1: do is listen to that violent racist Meghan and Kelly,
[42:45] Speaker 1: who showed her ass when she said this.
[42:50] Speaker 17: For over a dozen years.
[42:52] Speaker 13: Go home, get out.
[42:55] Speaker 17: We know our countries better than yours. That's because we
[42:58] Speaker 17: filled it with our work ethic and our culture and
[43:01] Speaker 17: our values. You being here only to lose it for us,
[43:05] Speaker 17: those who built it and live it. And half of
[43:08] Speaker 17: you people, more than half you won't assimilate. We don't
[43:11] Speaker 17: want you, We don't care if you're offended, Get out,
[43:14] Speaker 17: go home, Go back to fucking Haiti. Sorry, I'm just
[43:18] Speaker 17: I'm thinking about our friends in Ohio who've been dealing
[43:20] Speaker 17: with these tps Haitians for years now, who are drunk
[43:24] Speaker 17: driving all over their towns and killing people.
[43:26] Speaker 3: This is the whole cats and.
[43:28] Speaker 17: Dogs thing, like they don't want to live like Americans live.
[43:34] Speaker 6: And this was supposed to be a temporary.
[43:38] Speaker 17: It was supposed to be temporary help, and it's turned
[43:41] Speaker 17: into another back doorway of allowing someone permanent residency here,
[43:47] Speaker 17: and they take advantage of all of our public services.
[43:50] Speaker 1: And let's just be real clear, Megan kla is a
[43:52] Speaker 1: fucking idiot. And the reason she's a fucking idiot is
[43:57] Speaker 1: because she just sat there and repeated the bullsshit lie
[44:02] Speaker 1: about cats and dogs that was a story made up
[44:05] Speaker 1: by a white woman who actually had her dog returned.
[44:10] Speaker 1: It's a bullshit lie. But not only that, it also
[44:14] Speaker 1: shows you how this airhead so called lawyer hasn't even
[44:19] Speaker 1: rid shit. Okay, she went on and on and on
[44:23] Speaker 1: the cold about oh our culture, Hella, let me explain
[44:28] Speaker 1: something to you. The largest land purchase in the United
[44:33] Speaker 1: States was a Louisiana purchase, which was a result of
[44:38] Speaker 1: slaves slave revolts in Haiti in eighteen oh four. You
[44:45] Speaker 1: talk about culture, you don't have fucking culture, Meghan Kelly.
[44:49] Speaker 1: Without Haitians, what the hell do you think New Orleans is.
[44:55] Speaker 1: We can go on and on and on and literally
[44:57] Speaker 1: break down the culture that Haitians have provided to the
[45:04] Speaker 1: United States. Her no dancing ass needs to understand that
[45:10] Speaker 1: as well. But then she's cited. Oh my god, the
[45:14] Speaker 1: people in Springfield they've been dealing with these people and
[45:18] Speaker 1: they've been drunk driving. Really, do y'all recall sixty minutes
[45:23] Speaker 1: when they went to Springfield, Ohio and they talked to
[45:26] Speaker 1: a white man CEO of a company, and this is
[45:30] Speaker 1: what he said about those Haitians.
[45:35] Speaker 18: What started slowly, we had an application pool that was
[45:39] Speaker 18: a little bit different. People coming to work here, full
[45:41] Speaker 18: people looking for jobs. What he's welding here again, are
[45:46] Speaker 18: welded actual components.
[45:47] Speaker 19: Jemmy McGregor is the CEO of McGregor Metal, which makes
[45:51] Speaker 19: welded parts for the auto and farm industries. Right now,
[45:54] Speaker 19: about ten percent of his workforce is Haitian, over thirty employees.
[45:59] Speaker 18: I wish I had thirty more. Our Haitian associates come
[46:01] Speaker 18: to work every day. They don't have a drug problem,
[46:04] Speaker 18: they'll stay at their machine, they'll achieve their numbers.
[46:07] Speaker 1: They are here to work.
[46:08] Speaker 18: And so in general, that's a stark difference from what
[46:12] Speaker 18: we're used to in our community.
[46:14] Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, maybe y'all didn't catch what he said.
[46:19] Speaker 1: What he was really saying is these white people here
[46:24] Speaker 1: mans don't come to work on time, they don't work hard.
[46:28] Speaker 1: He said, We're not used to that roll it again.
[46:40] Speaker 18: What started slowly? We had an application pool that was
[46:44] Speaker 18: a little bit different. People coming to work here, full
[46:46] Speaker 18: people looking for jobs. What he's welding here again, are
[46:51] Speaker 18: welded actual components.
[46:52] Speaker 19: Jammy McGregor is the CEO of McGregor Metal, which makes
[46:56] Speaker 19: welded parts for the auto and farm industries. Right now,
[46:59] Speaker 19: about ten ten percent of his workforce is Haitian, over
[47:02] Speaker 19: thirty employees.
[47:04] Speaker 18: I wish I had thirty more. Our Haitian associates come
[47:06] Speaker 18: to work every day. They don't have a drug problem,
[47:09] Speaker 18: they'll stay at their machine, they'll achieve their numbers.
[47:12] Speaker 19: They are here to work.
[47:13] Speaker 18: And so in general, that's a stark difference from what
[47:17] Speaker 18: we're used to in our community.
[47:20] Speaker 1: That's a stark difference than what we're used to in
[47:24] Speaker 1: our community, Nicole. He's saying, these white folk don't work
[47:29] Speaker 1: as hard as the Haitians.
[47:33] Speaker 13: You know, first of all, for this white woman to
[47:35] Speaker 13: say that her and her people are the ones that
[47:38] Speaker 13: built this country is laughable, because we know that the
[47:41] Speaker 13: United States was built on the backs of black people, immigrants,
[47:45] Speaker 13: people of color, everybody but white people. We did the
[47:49] Speaker 13: hard labor to get us where we are today. And
[47:53] Speaker 13: the foundation of America was built on immigrants. That's why
[47:56] Speaker 13: we had the Statue of Liberty in New York. So
[47:59] Speaker 13: now for her to see her and say that we
[48:00] Speaker 13: want them to lead, that we don't want them here,
[48:03] Speaker 13: that is absolutely not true. And America is going to
[48:06] Speaker 13: see what will happen if we start really trying to
[48:09] Speaker 13: get rid of all of our protected immigrants. This country
[48:12] Speaker 13: will really go downward, especially economically. We need everybody to thrive.
[48:18] Speaker 13: And one thing that we know is that capitalism needs
[48:21] Speaker 13: people at the underclass to point and hate each other
[48:24] Speaker 13: for it to thrive. Now they want us to blame
[48:26] Speaker 13: Syrians and Haitians for job loss and all these crazy things.
[48:29] Speaker 13: But really what we need to be doing is coming
[48:31] Speaker 13: together and fighting against the people at the top that
[48:35] Speaker 13: want us to be fighting against each other.
[48:37] Speaker 12: We need our Haitians, we need our Syrians, we need
[48:39] Speaker 12: all of our immigrants here in this country.
[48:43] Speaker 1: Say Michael, what things races are all about? And this
[48:52] Speaker 1: is precisely why I wrote my book Life Here. That
[48:56] Speaker 1: racist god tribe from Meghan Kelly just flat out is
[49:03] Speaker 1: test case a example A for example, six one hundred
[49:07] Speaker 1: and ninety six of white people being scared to death.
[49:12] Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're still in our country. The fact
[49:15] Speaker 1: of the matter is Springfield, Ohio was a dying Midwest city.
[49:22] Speaker 1: They had lost thirty thousand people, Homes not being purchased,
[49:28] Speaker 1: jobs not being filled, sales, tax receipts decreasing. Why because
[49:34] Speaker 1: they didn't have people. Now, who says that the Haitians
[49:40] Speaker 1: save their asses, save their are white asses. The mayor
[49:45] Speaker 1: of Springfield, the Republican governor of Ohio. That's what actually
[49:52] Speaker 1: did it.
[49:53] Speaker 3: Them.
[49:53] Speaker 1: White folks should be bowling down thanking the Haitians for
[49:57] Speaker 1: saving their trifling as city because people were leaving because
[50:03] Speaker 1: that was nothing there.
[50:06] Speaker 5: Yeah, Roland, I remember when Junior Varsity Vance Live and
[50:11] Speaker 5: said that the Haitians were eating the dogs and cats
[50:14] Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four, as well as Donald Trump, and
[50:18] Speaker 5: I remember that it put the lives of Haitians there
[50:21] Speaker 5: in Springfield, Ohio and jeopardy. There were death threats, bomb threats,
[50:26] Speaker 5: things like this, and these white nationalists, white supremists doubled
[50:29] Speaker 5: down on the lie. So I saw the Die tribe
[50:34] Speaker 5: from making Kelly and she's appealing to her white nationalist,
[50:37] Speaker 5: white supremist audience, and you know, yes, Governor Dwine talked
[50:44] Speaker 5: about how the Haitians rejuvenated Springfield, Ohio.
[50:48] Speaker 3: They saved it. And my thing is, hold on, hold on,
[50:52] Speaker 3: hold on.
[50:53] Speaker 1: This is just sting right there because let's just actually
[50:55] Speaker 1: hear from him on the Fox News in September twenty
[51:00] Speaker 1: twenty four. Mm hm, And look, why did they come.
[51:05] Speaker 1: They came for jobs.
[51:07] Speaker 10: When you talk to the employers who are employing them,
[51:10] Speaker 10: they'll tell you, Look, they're very hard workers, they're very
[51:13] Speaker 10: family oriented. One employer was quoted saying, I wish I
[51:17] Speaker 10: could hire an one hundred other ones to fill the
[51:20] Speaker 10: jobs that we have.
[51:21] Speaker 1: So that's why they came.
[51:23] Speaker 10: But I don't think anybody expected that, you know, that
[51:26] Speaker 10: big of a surge. I mean, basically what happens is,
[51:29] Speaker 10: you know they're here under a classification. There's sixteen countries
[51:33] Speaker 10: under this classification, and when they come in, you know
[51:37] Speaker 10: they can then apply for that. And what the reason
[51:40] Speaker 10: Haiti is in there is because it's extremely violent country
[51:44] Speaker 10: in a country that since the president was killed two
[51:47] Speaker 10: years ago, the gangs are basically running the country. So
[51:52] Speaker 10: you know, that's why they fled Haiti.
[51:54] Speaker 1: And that's that's why you support that program.
[51:56] Speaker 6: You support TPS right, for sure.
[52:00] Speaker 10: Look, we have Martha, Martha, We've always had some program.
[52:03] Speaker 10: We've always had some program like that. Remember, uh, well
[52:06] Speaker 10: you don't remember, but I remember way way back, you know,
[52:09] Speaker 10: in the fifties and sixties. We did that with Cuba
[52:11] Speaker 10: when Castro was there.
[52:12] Speaker 1: So we did it with Cuba when Castro was there,
[52:17] Speaker 1: and Cubans in Florida formed the basis of the Republican Party.
[52:20] Speaker 1: But here's the other deal, Michael, is that is this
[52:23] Speaker 1: here Megan, the United States, we fucked up Haiti. The
[52:31] Speaker 1: United States and France destroyed Haiti, destroyed their economy. And
[52:40] Speaker 1: so so you can complain about how screwed up Haiti was. No, No,
[52:46] Speaker 1: this country screwed up Haiti the blockade. That's so the
[52:52] Speaker 1: United States you complained about three and fifty thousand.
[52:57] Speaker 3: Trust me, Haiti.
[53:00] Speaker 1: Today would look five times as better than the other
[53:06] Speaker 1: side of the island where Haiti is the Dominican Republic
[53:12] Speaker 1: if the United statescuse matter of fact, just so y'all
[53:15] Speaker 1: understand history. It was Haitian president that ended slavery in
[53:22] Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic, and that's how that country became independent.
[53:28] Speaker 1: But you wouldn't know that. But the history. It was
[53:31] Speaker 1: Haiti that freed the dr and so half the United
[53:35] Speaker 1: States and France not screwed over Haiti, that country would
[53:41] Speaker 1: be so far hit. I dare say, Michael, it would
[53:45] Speaker 1: be the crown jewel of the Caribbean and the Western
[53:49] Speaker 1: Hemisphere if the United States, if the racist United States
[53:54] Speaker 1: had not sabotaged Haiti for more than one hundred and
[54:01] Speaker 1: fifty years.
[54:04] Speaker 5: Yeah, And we know from about nineteen fourteen to about
[54:07] Speaker 5: nineteen thirty four, nineteen thirty five, we know the US
[54:10] Speaker 5: occupied Haiti. We know, going back to President Woodrow Wilson,
[54:14] Speaker 5: he sent the US Marines in the Haiti. We know
[54:18] Speaker 5: they took out five hundred thousand dollars from the National
[54:21] Speaker 5: Haitian Bank as well. And you talked about the Louisiana purchase. Yeah,
[54:27] Speaker 5: people forget the reason why Napoleon Bonaparte was forced to
[54:32] Speaker 5: sell the eight hundred and twenty eight thousand square miles
[54:34] Speaker 5: of land that France controlled here in this country, that
[54:39] Speaker 5: they stole from Native Americans.
[54:41] Speaker 3: Let's not forget that, Okay, was.
[54:43] Speaker 5: Because the Haitians were kicking France's behind in the Haitian Revolution.
[54:48] Speaker 5: France was going almost bankrupt, so they sold that land
[54:51] Speaker 5: to the US, which doubled the territory of the US
[54:54] Speaker 5: and also gave the US more territory to having slaved Africans,
[54:58] Speaker 5: which increased the need for enslaved Africans as well. But
[55:02] Speaker 5: very quickly, Roland, Yeah, government, the wine is absolutely correct.
[55:06] Speaker 5: But let's not forget. And you talked about this, I
[55:09] Speaker 5: think it was last night. Haitians make up a large
[55:13] Speaker 5: portion of the healthcare industry here in this country. Okay,
[55:16] Speaker 5: it's about one hundred and eleven thousand that work in
[55:19] Speaker 5: the healthcare industry and a lot of them work in
[55:22] Speaker 5: the nursing homes take care of the elderly, things of
[55:25] Speaker 5: this nature.
[55:26] Speaker 3: Okay, So these are very hard working people that provide
[55:31] Speaker 3: critical services.
[55:33] Speaker 5: If you deport these three hundred and fifty thousand Haitians,
[55:36] Speaker 5: you're going to severely, hamper, severely hurt the US economy.
[55:41] Speaker 3: And following along with that idea, I would call.
[55:46] Speaker 5: On undocumented immigrants and legal immigrants that they hear if
[55:52] Speaker 5: you want to embark upon this, y'all should go on
[55:54] Speaker 5: strike for a week and shut this shit down and
[55:58] Speaker 5: crush this economy. And because this is straight up white
[56:03] Speaker 5: white nationalism, white supremacy, and for all you black people
[56:06] Speaker 5: out there that want these Haitians deported things like this,
[56:10] Speaker 5: they're coming for us too. You're not exempt calling yourself
[56:13] Speaker 5: FBA or a thos is not a force field against
[56:16] Speaker 5: white supremacy and racism. Racism and white supremacy attacks all
[56:20] Speaker 5: black people, regardless of the origin, the country of your origin,
[56:25] Speaker 5: the language you speak, or.
[56:27] Speaker 3: The religion you practice. Okay.
[56:29] Speaker 5: And doctor John Henry Clark, who's behind me his picture,
[56:32] Speaker 5: he taught us that the white man is a better
[56:34] Speaker 5: Pan Africanist than you because he don't want none of you.
[56:37] Speaker 5: And for Megan Kelly to then at insult to injury
[56:42] Speaker 5: and say that half of these Haitians or most of
[56:44] Speaker 5: them will not assimilate.
[56:45] Speaker 3: Okay.
[56:46] Speaker 5: This reminds me of nineteen twenty four when Calvin Cooley
[56:50] Speaker 5: signed that Anti Asian Immigration Act and he said, we
[56:54] Speaker 5: have to keep America American.
[56:57] Speaker 3: He's talking about for white people.
[56:59] Speaker 5: This is the same thing that Donald Trump said when
[57:02] Speaker 5: back in about twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, he said, why
[57:05] Speaker 5: are we bringing these people in from these shitthhole countries
[57:07] Speaker 5: like Haiti? Why can't we bring more people in from
[57:09] Speaker 5: the Netherlands. And he's important white South Africans from South Africa.
[57:14] Speaker 3: Y'all better wake up, otherwise you going to we haven't
[57:20] Speaker 3: seen the worst of this is going to get worse.
[57:23] Speaker 3: We better wake up.
[57:25] Speaker 1: Marzum Donnie who is the sorry Zorai Mandani, who is
[57:28] Speaker 1: the mayor of New York City. He released this video
[57:32] Speaker 1: making it clear that New York City would do all
[57:35] Speaker 1: it can to protect Haitians from deportation.
[57:38] Speaker 20: We saw today the Supreme Court make a decision that
[57:42] Speaker 20: is putting so many people's lives in jeopardy. And I
[57:46] Speaker 20: just came back from a rally with eleven ninety nine
[57:49] Speaker 20: as I stood alongside a number of Haitian New Yorkers
[57:52] Speaker 20: who are concerned about what this means for their status
[57:54] Speaker 20: in our city. And frankly, this city, the one that
[57:57] Speaker 20: we love, is one that has been built by so
[58:01] Speaker 20: many from so many different parts of the world, and
[58:04] Speaker 20: that includes our Haitian brothers and sisters, our Syrian brothers
[58:06] Speaker 20: and sisters. And we stand here ready to be in
[58:09] Speaker 20: solidarity with all of those who are concerned by today's decision,
[58:12] Speaker 20: and beyond just language of solidarity, actions of solidarity. Now,
[58:17] Speaker 20: what that means when it comes to our city is
[58:20] Speaker 20: if you are worried about what this means for your status,
[58:22] Speaker 20: if you're worried about what this means for your family,
[58:25] Speaker 20: I would encourage you to call our Mayor's office at
[58:27] Speaker 20: Immigrant Affairs Hotline, and you can do so at one
[58:30] Speaker 20: eight hundred three five four zero three six y five. Again,
[58:34] Speaker 20: that's one eight hundred three five four zero three six
[58:38] Speaker 20: y five. Now, many of you know it's a city
[58:41] Speaker 20: of eight and a half million people. More than three
[58:43] Speaker 20: million of us were born elsewhere. I'm one of them.
[58:47] Speaker 20: We're a city that's proud of our immigrant heritage. And
[58:51] Speaker 20: when we think about especially what Haitian New Yorkers have
[58:53] Speaker 20: had to deal with, not just for weeks or months
[58:56] Speaker 20: we saw today.
[58:59] Speaker 1: I'll do this, y'all. So and again, I just want
[59:02] Speaker 1: you to understand from a historical standpoint what's going on here.
[59:06] Speaker 1: This is actually the Harvard Law School International Human Rights Clinic.
[59:10] Speaker 1: This piece is called what the World Owes Haiti. And
[59:13] Speaker 1: when you see this story, it says right here, it
[59:15] Speaker 1: breaks out. It talks about a New York Times investigation
[59:19] Speaker 1: regarding foreign intervention in Haiti's history. This was published June
[59:23] Speaker 1: twenty ninth, twenty twenty two. So almost to the day
[59:27] Speaker 1: four years ago, it said The Times meticulous expose a
[59:31] Speaker 1: of the massive debt that France illegally extorted from Haiti
[59:36] Speaker 1: after its independence demonstrates how the payments totally estimated twenty
[59:42] Speaker 1: one to one hundred and fifteen billion dollars, kept Haiti
[59:46] Speaker 1: poor and unstable for two centuries. Imagine, imagine if the
[59:51] Speaker 1: United States, this fledgling thirteen colonies had to repay England
[1:00:00] Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen billion dollars. Do you actually think
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: the United States will look like it does today? No,
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: it would not. It says that the investigation also documented
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: if the US Marines forced transferred a five hundred thousand
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: dollars in goal from Haites National Bank to City Group
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: in New York in nineteen fourteen, and the nineteen year
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: occupation that followed was spurred in part by pressure from
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: Wall Street. See Meghan Kelly will never ever own up
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: to any of this. Donald Trump would not own up
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: to any of this. In fact, these races would not
[1:00:45] Speaker 1: own up to any of this because we know exactly
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: who they are, and do understand when you look at
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: the ruling that was in this case, you had Supreme
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: Court Justice Sam Alito, who didn't much say it that, oh,
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: we you know, there was no racial bias involved in this.
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: There was no racial bias that precipitated the Trump administration
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: from targeting these Haitians. And you sat there and you
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: were like, did that fool actually say this? Yeah, this
[1:01:23] Speaker 1: is what he said in the opinion. Some statements expressed
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: great displeasure with TPS. They know, among other things, that
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: TPS designations have often been far from temporary, and that
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: aliens who are allowed to the state of the United
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: States under the program are not vitted like other aliens
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: who seek commission. But this is go back further. This
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: is what he says. None of the cited statements by
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: either the President or the Secretary was overtly racial, and
[1:01:47] Speaker 1: in substance all expressed policy views that could rest on
[1:01:52] Speaker 1: race neutral justifications. Extreme Court Justice sam Samuel Lito, that
[1:02:00] Speaker 1: idiot that January sixth supporter him and his wife actually said,
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: oh no, the things that they expressed, that stuff wasn't racial.
[1:02:11] Speaker 1: I can't believe that y'all would sit here and say
[1:02:15] Speaker 1: those things. Uh huh yeah. In her deceiving opinion, Supreme Court,
[1:02:21] Speaker 1: just as Lanna Kagan said, your punk ass is a liar.
[1:02:26] Speaker 1: She said, here's some of those statements. Haitians are eating
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: the dogs, They're eating the cats, they're eating They're eating
[1:02:32] Speaker 1: the pets of the people that live in Springflt, Ohio.
[1:02:36] Speaker 1: Haitians are also eating other things too that they're not
[1:02:38] Speaker 1: supposed to be. Haitians in the United States probably have aids.
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: Haiti is a shithole country which is filthy, dirty and disgusting.
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: Haitian immigration is like a death wish for our country,
[1:02:50] Speaker 1: and Haitians, along with some others, are poisoning the blood
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: of our country. Why is it we only take people
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: from shithold countries like Haiti and Somalia? Why cannot Why
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: cannot we have some people from Norway and Sweden. The
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: majority briefly replies that those remarks are not quote overtly racial,
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: but it is hard to know what that means. Haitians
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: are black, Norwegians and Swedes not so much. The references
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: of filth, disease, and primitiveness are shot through with racial
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: stereotypes and tropes. It is hard to imagine the statements
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: being made today of any white community. No very sensitive
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: inquiry of the kind Arlington Heights compels is needed to
[1:03:34] Speaker 1: see them for what they are. Judges, as we often say,
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: are not required to exhibit a naivete from which ordinary
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: citizens are free, but statements fairly shout in their racial
[1:03:47] Speaker 1: undertones and overtones alike that race enter into the Presudic's
[1:03:51] Speaker 1: resolved to remove Haitians from this country. The folks, the
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: racist attacks ain't just on It's on somealions, and it
[1:04:02] Speaker 1: comes from all the members of the Republican Party such
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: as Tom Emmer. Listen to this gross disrespect of Somalians.
[1:04:13] Speaker 21: Guess what, There is nothing racist about calling out a criminal.
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: So when I say that.
[1:04:24] Speaker 21: It's time, it's time, I mean this is what they
[1:04:27] Speaker 21: do in the great state of Minnesota. You know, our culture,
[1:04:29] Speaker 21: that Scandinavian culture. By the way, I better make it
[1:04:32] Speaker 21: clear before I go any farther Minnesotans are there any here?
[1:04:36] Speaker 20: Ah?
[1:04:36] Speaker 3: Good?
[1:04:37] Speaker 21: Then let me just say, okay, well born, you're wearing
[1:04:41] Speaker 21: that hat. You must be from northern Minnesota, the Iron Range, No,
[1:04:46] Speaker 21: probably closer to Iowa.
[1:04:47] Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to leave that alone.
[1:04:49] Speaker 21: I the reason I bring it up is because I
[1:04:51] Speaker 21: tell people regularly Minnesota did not create passive aggressive behavior,
[1:04:57] Speaker 21: but we did perfect it. Okay, And I happen to
[1:05:01] Speaker 21: be more on the aggressive aggressive side, which doesn't always
[1:05:06] Speaker 21: work in Minnesota. As Ralph will tell you. You know,
[1:05:08] Speaker 21: sometimes Minnesotans are so afraid that you're gonna call us
[1:05:13] Speaker 21: a racist, you're gonna call us an islamaphobe, you're gonna
[1:05:16] Speaker 21: call us some name that. We just don't want to
[1:05:19] Speaker 21: get into that fight.
[1:05:20] Speaker 15: You know what.
[1:05:22] Speaker 21: I would argue that I never did care, but I'm
[1:05:25] Speaker 21: done being careful, even the least bit careful. And I
[1:05:34] Speaker 21: don't really care where you come from, but if you
[1:05:37] Speaker 21: come to this great country, you have to understand you're
[1:05:40] Speaker 21: coming here to be an American. We celebrate everyone's culture.
[1:05:49] Speaker 21: We're happy with that as long as you are an
[1:05:52] Speaker 21: American celebrates your culture. I don't care Italian, Polish, you know, Somali, Okay,
[1:06:00] Speaker 21: but they don't assimilate. And if they don't assimilate, then
[1:06:04] Speaker 21: they should go the hell back to where they came from. Sorry, Ralph,
[1:06:12] Speaker 21: I know this is a family show. I can't help
[1:06:15] Speaker 21: myself today.
[1:06:17] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: Oh it's a oh so that's how we gonna roll
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: Tom Immer. Okay, And you gott need to understand, chief racist,
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: Steven Miller, this is what he actually said after the
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruling yesterday.
[1:06:32] Speaker 22: Well, I think the most important point is that this
[1:06:35] Speaker 22: administration on the asylum point has been implemented international agreements
[1:06:39] Speaker 22: all over the world to take in our asylum seekers.
[1:06:41] Speaker 3: So America's doors.
[1:06:43] Speaker 4: Are closed fully to assylum stickers.
[1:06:46] Speaker 22: We said up agreements where if you want asylum, then
[1:06:49] Speaker 22: we will find a country elsewhere in the world to
[1:06:50] Speaker 22: take you.
[1:06:51] Speaker 23: It's very simple, a very elegant, very complete solution. Now,
[1:06:55] Speaker 23: of course, as you know, you've heard me time it
[1:06:56] Speaker 23: here many times before. All asylum claims Southeast border are oldest.
[1:07:02] Speaker 1: Fan Really, y'all might have saw that thing flash right there.
[1:07:05] Speaker 1: That's quite interesting because it's October of this Hue of
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, four thousand, four hundred and ninety nine
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: refugees have been allowed into the United States. Four thousand,
[1:07:19] Speaker 1: four hundred and ninety six of those folks have been
[1:07:23] Speaker 1: white South Africans. That is a fact. What we are
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: seeing here, Matt is pure unadulterated racism. And what we
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: have to deal with here, Michael and Nicole is that
[1:07:46] Speaker 1: when these Ados FBA people, when they spout language, the
[1:07:55] Speaker 1: anti immigration language, even anti black immigration, language. They sound
[1:08:01] Speaker 1: just like Tom Emmer, they sound just like Stephen Miller,
[1:08:08] Speaker 1: they sound just like Donald Trump. They literally, Michael are
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: speaking for white nationalists.
[1:08:20] Speaker 3: Absolutely is white supremacy through vent triloquism. That's what it is.
[1:08:24] Speaker 3: And it reminds me of a three quick points here.
[1:08:27] Speaker 5: It reminds me of a of a political meme I
[1:08:30] Speaker 5: saw in the past couple of weeks from urban intellectuals
[1:08:34] Speaker 5: on Facebook, and it said the cockroach out of hatred
[1:08:38] Speaker 5: for the ant voted for insecticide, and the fly out
[1:08:43] Speaker 5: of apathy didn't vote at all, and they all died
[1:08:48] Speaker 5: because of the consequences of an election. Okay, And this
[1:08:52] Speaker 5: is how you get a white nawcist white SUPREMEIU is
[1:08:55] Speaker 5: like stephan Miller, whose deputy chief advisor to Donald Trump.
[1:08:58] Speaker 5: This is the same Stephanie Miller who had the up
[1:09:01] Speaker 5: American First Legal who rounded up white farmers to sue
[1:09:06] Speaker 5: the US government to block the five billion dollars from
[1:09:11] Speaker 5: the American Rescue Plan that was going to go to
[1:09:13] Speaker 5: black farmers and farmers of color that John Boyd talked
[1:09:16] Speaker 5: about here on this show number of times that dealt
[1:09:20] Speaker 5: with discrimination against.
[1:09:21] Speaker 3: Farmers of color.
[1:09:22] Speaker 5: That was that white supreme aist, white nationalist right there
[1:09:26] Speaker 5: that rounded them up to block that.
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: And then right now, I've said.
[1:09:30] Speaker 5: This before on the show, Rolling right now, on the
[1:09:32] Speaker 5: State Department's website, there is a level four travel advisory
[1:09:37] Speaker 5: warning Americans do not travel to Haiti because of crime, violence,
[1:09:42] Speaker 5: because of poor health care, things of this nature. And
[1:09:47] Speaker 5: you're going to send three hundred and fifty thousand back there.
[1:09:51] Speaker 5: So and lastly, for all the black people who while
[1:09:55] Speaker 5: here talking about reparations, reparations, this same goddamn government is
[1:10:00] Speaker 5: suing Everson, Illinois to block twenty five thousand dollars races
[1:10:04] Speaker 5: two black people who you're gonna get reparations from.
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: And here's the thing. When Meghan Kelly talks about go
[1:10:09] Speaker 1: back to where you come from, keep in mind Steven Miller,
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: people ain't from here. This is his uncle on seeing
[1:10:15] Speaker 1: the Anderson Cooper saying, well, thank god we had an
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: immigration policy, because if that's the case, we would not
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: have been able to come here.
[1:10:25] Speaker 3: Pasha wrote, you.
[1:10:26] Speaker 19: Describe your nephew, Stephn Miller as an immigration hypocrite.
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?
[1:10:29] Speaker 24: It's an important question, and I have to preface my
[1:10:33] Speaker 24: response by saying that I wrote this article more in
[1:10:35] Speaker 24: sadness than an anger or resentment. Our family history is
[1:10:40] Speaker 24: entirely dependent upon the fact that our family was able
[1:10:42] Speaker 24: to escape from a terrible situation in what is now
[1:10:46] Speaker 24: the country of Belarus in those days was part of
[1:10:48] Speaker 24: the Russian Empire.
[1:10:49] Speaker 1: Your family first came here, I think the early nineteen hundreds.
[1:10:52] Speaker 8: The first of the.
[1:10:53] Speaker 24: First of our particular group came over in nineteen oh three.
[1:10:56] Speaker 24: They worked for a while peddling fruit and doing sweatshop work,
[1:11:00] Speaker 24: and then they were able to round up enough money
[1:11:02] Speaker 24: to bring over the rest of the immediate family. Everybody
[1:11:04] Speaker 24: else who didn't make it, they were all swept away
[1:11:08] Speaker 24: in the Holocaust and dead.
[1:11:10] Speaker 3: And so you're saying that the hypocrisy had pretty.
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: Simply And I'll say this here. I'll say this here.
[1:11:23] Speaker 1: I'm quite sure that Native Americans are listening to Steven
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: Miller and Meghan Kelly and saying, we're all y'all gonna leave,
[1:11:35] Speaker 1: We're all y'all gonna go back because y'all didn't assimilate
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: into the culture that was already here. See, this is
[1:11:47] Speaker 1: how whiteness works. Y'all need to assimilate. Meghan Kelly talking
[1:11:53] Speaker 1: about our culture, Megan, you ain't got no color. I mean,
[1:11:57] Speaker 1: you ain't got no culture out black people. Y'all ass
[1:12:01] Speaker 1: ain't got no music because hell country music ain't y'all
[1:12:06] Speaker 1: that came from us. Hell without us. Y'all ain't got
[1:12:10] Speaker 1: no food because y'all absolutely ain't got no clue what
[1:12:14] Speaker 1: the hell seasoning is. We know you're letting narrow ass
[1:12:18] Speaker 1: can't dance, so you ain't got no rhythm. And so
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: I'm sure every Nicole and Matt when these white folks
[1:12:26] Speaker 1: go out and they say, let's go eat some Chinese food,
[1:12:30] Speaker 1: Let's go eat the Mexican food. Let's go get tie,
[1:12:34] Speaker 1: Let's go get some Indian food. Let's try some soul food. Hell,
[1:12:39] Speaker 1: y'all asses didn't even create barbecue. If y'all want to
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: talk about the worst food in the world, shit, go
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: eat in England.
[1:12:50] Speaker 3: We all know none of them should cook.
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: So let's be clear. Your food sucks. You ain't got
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: no music without us, You ain't got dancing without us,
[1:13:01] Speaker 1: You ain't got seasoning without us. So, Megan, when you
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: say our culture, do you know what our culture is?
[1:13:11] Speaker 8: Rape?
[1:13:13] Speaker 3: Murder, pillaging, being thieves.
[1:13:20] Speaker 1: That's your culture because that is your history. We come back,
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[1:16:03] Speaker 1: All right, folks, you've got some Democrats. They are, oh
[1:16:06] Speaker 1: my god, beside themselves because democratics Socialists had a big
[1:16:13] Speaker 1: night in New York City. Three candidates supported by Zoran
[1:16:19] Speaker 1: Mamdani beat members of Congress. They took out two incumbents,
[1:16:25] Speaker 1: all right. Then in Washington, d C. Huge election there
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: the sister became the mayor, Mary Lek sheet Democratic Socialist.
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: And so now it's like, oh my god, the world
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: is ending. They're taking over. What is going on? All
[1:16:43] Speaker 1: these people are losing their minds. Jamie James Carville, Oh
[1:16:48] Speaker 1: my god, he is just cranky, mad of set. Listen
[1:16:52] Speaker 1: to this folk.
[1:16:55] Speaker 2: With the idea, the idea, listen, neglect everything else is
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: going on, all of these other primaries, all the recruciation,
[1:17:05] Speaker 2: has all huge phenomenal successes we've had. And declare that
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: the party is now under the control of a Democratic
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: Socialist of New York City is insane. But and understand,
[1:17:19] Speaker 2: these people do not like democrats. Not only are they
[1:17:22] Speaker 2: not democrats, they wish democrats poorly. So I just cannot.
[1:17:30] Speaker 2: Maybe there's a way that you can say to I
[1:17:33] Speaker 2: guess Madammie is the leader of it is, you know,
[1:17:36] Speaker 2: you insist that, you know, try to insist that the
[1:17:39] Speaker 2: people that run into your banner run as a Democratic
[1:17:42] Speaker 2: Socialists and don't use the Democratic Party as your guideline,
[1:17:46] Speaker 2: and listen, negotiate the terms of a schism here. Maybe
[1:17:49] Speaker 2: we can we can part under some kind of advantageous
[1:17:52] Speaker 2: terms for both of us.
[1:17:53] Speaker 3: But I'm done. I'm not in that fucking political party.
[1:17:56] Speaker 3: I am total.
[1:18:00] Speaker 1: Only nuts, that's what you are speaking of, nuts, Pennsylvania
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: Senator John Fetterman.
[1:18:09] Speaker 26: In Michigan, you know, but all of them have intensely,
[1:18:12] Speaker 26: intensely anti Israel thing. Now I remain as really the
[1:18:17] Speaker 26: last Democrat and the Senate that's proud to stand with
[1:18:20] Speaker 26: Israel absolutely. And now these kinds of places like that
[1:18:25] Speaker 26: coffeehouse are calling.
[1:18:27] Speaker 1: Out a Jew that you're banned, you know, just for
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: for what reason.
[1:18:33] Speaker 26: I mean, that's that's what's becoming part of the Democratic Party.
[1:18:37] Speaker 26: And now hating on Israel and essentially anti Semitism has
[1:18:42] Speaker 26: become like you know, the center of a lot of
[1:18:44] Speaker 26: these primaries across the country and definitely, definitely that we're
[1:18:48] Speaker 26: witnessing in New York City.
[1:18:51] Speaker 27: You know, but Senator years gone by, you would be
[1:18:53] Speaker 27: considered a mainstream Democrat. I was very close to Joe Lieberman,
[1:18:58] Speaker 27: for example.
[1:19:00] Speaker 3: A great guy.
[1:19:02] Speaker 27: He would not want to be a part of this
[1:19:04] Speaker 27: movement either. You're like the only person that is standing
[1:19:09] Speaker 27: against it. What about the other people in your part?
[1:19:12] Speaker 27: Where's Chuck Schumer? Where are other prominent Democrats? Why won't
[1:19:16] Speaker 27: they speak out against this madness?
[1:19:20] Speaker 26: I mean, I'm proud to stand with Israel, and whether
[1:19:24] Speaker 26: if I'm the last Democrat you know here or not,
[1:19:27] Speaker 26: I'm I'm proud to stand with Israel, and I'm going
[1:19:29] Speaker 26: to call out what I'm witnessing all across the country
[1:19:32] Speaker 26: and all of these races. And you have these kinds
[1:19:34] Speaker 26: of candidates that are actively trying to cram as much
[1:19:38] Speaker 26: anti Israel and essentially anti Semitism into their platform.
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: And now these are the kinds of people that are.
[1:19:45] Speaker 26: Winning right now now, whether it's a Nazi tattoo or
[1:19:49] Speaker 26: if it's actually someone like that Chevalier going to the
[1:19:53] Speaker 26: Prohamas rally on ten to eight after ten seven and
[1:19:57] Speaker 26: celebrating the ten to seven massacre look at these kinds
[1:20:01] Speaker 26: of people in the circles that they're in.
[1:20:03] Speaker 3: Look at the kinds of.
[1:20:04] Speaker 26: Things that Mandami's wife had liked on social media. You know,
[1:20:08] Speaker 26: the kinds of music that she listens to. These views
[1:20:11] Speaker 26: that think and are just intensely, intensely anti Israel and
[1:20:16] Speaker 26: and intensely anti Jewish.
[1:20:18] Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you this because.
[1:20:24] Speaker 1: So uh Fetterman said that he called them the dirt
[1:20:27] Speaker 1: bag left. Okay, I want you to understand He's like, oh, oh,
[1:20:32] Speaker 1: these these anti Israel. So do you all understand that
[1:20:37] Speaker 1: Dan Goleman Democrat Congressman Dan Goldman, he lost to New
[1:20:44] Speaker 1: York City former Controller Brad Lander. Do y'all know that
[1:20:50] Speaker 1: Dan Goldman is Jewish? Brad Lander is Jewish? Are you
[1:20:57] Speaker 1: aware that that district is the most Jewish Jewish district
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: in the country and they voted for Brad Lander because
[1:21:09] Speaker 1: he does not support continuing to support Israel. So if
[1:21:17] Speaker 1: Jewish people are taking that position, I'm just saying, what
[1:21:24] Speaker 1: the hell are you talking about, Fetterman. All these people
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: are upset, they're angry. Sonny Houston on the View had
[1:21:34] Speaker 1: a clap back at one of her co hosts.
[1:21:42] Speaker 28: Mudani does emerge as a kingmaker.
[1:21:44] Speaker 6: But at what expense?
[1:21:45] Speaker 28: He just absolutely neutered Hikim Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer, who
[1:21:48] Speaker 28: have the job of trying to win back the House
[1:21:50] Speaker 28: and Senate for Democrats by endorsing candidates against sitting House members.
[1:21:55] Speaker 8: How did he them exactly?
[1:21:57] Speaker 6: Because what he's so you're.
[1:21:58] Speaker 28: I'm going to get into it.
[1:21:59] Speaker 10: Just let me.
[1:21:59] Speaker 12: Let me get into this.
[1:22:00] Speaker 28: So you just talked about these goods and services. You
[1:22:02] Speaker 28: want the police to come, you want the fire department
[1:22:04] Speaker 28: to come. Well, one of your new candidates, a Vila Chavalier,
[1:22:07] Speaker 28: who won last night, wants to abolish the police in
[1:22:10] Speaker 28: all prison. She was asked four times, how would you
[1:22:12] Speaker 28: deal with somebody who committed murder?
[1:22:14] Speaker 9: Then?
[1:22:15] Speaker 28: What is your plan? And she dodged and didn't answer.
[1:22:17] Speaker 28: She tweeted that Obama's evil Biden is a rapist and
[1:22:21] Speaker 28: a war criminal in bleep, Kamala Harris, these were not
[1:22:24] Speaker 28: people running on an affordability agenda. These were left wing
[1:22:27] Speaker 28: extremists that were elected last night at the expense of
[1:22:32] Speaker 28: moderate Democrats. So a seat that you guys do need
[1:22:34] Speaker 28: to win if you want to take back the House.
[1:22:35] Speaker 1: I don't like the way she sounds at all.
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying.
[1:22:38] Speaker 8: Well, she's not the party, but not one person.
[1:22:41] Speaker 28: But that is the point is these candidates that were
[1:22:43] Speaker 28: addorsed by DSA the Democratic Socialists were extreme candidates. And
[1:22:48] Speaker 28: I've seen this happen in my party where the extreme
[1:22:50] Speaker 28: right wing takes over and you can't get your party back.
[1:22:52] Speaker 28: I would warn you all this is very dangerous and
[1:22:55] Speaker 28: it could riskue losing the hat.
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: I disagree with that, you know.
[1:22:57] Speaker 29: I think that New York is the nation's cultural and
[1:23:00] Speaker 29: political capital, and that's that's just a fact. And I
[1:23:03] Speaker 29: think the Democratic Socialists of America is a force to
[1:23:07] Speaker 29: be reckon with at this point.
[1:23:09] Speaker 21: I really do.
[1:23:10] Speaker 29: Believe that you mentioned these other candidates that that won,
[1:23:14] Speaker 29: but you didn't mention Brad Lander, who ran on basically
[1:23:18] Speaker 29: a Democratic Socialist platform.
[1:23:20] Speaker 1: He ran on building more.
[1:23:21] Speaker 29: Affordable housing, protect protecting reproductive rights, the fight to protect
[1:23:25] Speaker 29: and stand up for the LGBTQ, plus community medicare for all.
[1:23:30] Speaker 1: He be He beat another Democrat.
[1:23:32] Speaker 28: Dan Goldman, who had impeachment against Donald Trump. Yes, but
[1:23:36] Speaker 28: you took out a sitting progressive liberal who was a
[1:23:39] Speaker 28: liberal hero two years because because he believes in Israel's
[1:23:42] Speaker 28: right to exist.
[1:23:43] Speaker 29: He lost because perhaps it's time for change.
[1:23:45] Speaker 12: Perhaps it's time for change the Democratic Party.
[1:23:48] Speaker 29: For a very long time, I've been searching for an identity,
[1:23:51] Speaker 29: and I see a great parallel between to your point
[1:23:54] Speaker 29: about the right. I see a great parallel between the
[1:23:57] Speaker 29: rise of the Tea Party in two thousand and nine
[1:24:01] Speaker 29: as a rebuttal basically to President Obama's policies and the
[1:24:05] Speaker 29: financial crisis, and the Democratic Socialists of America's rise in
[1:24:10] Speaker 29: twenty sixteen in reaction to Donald Trump, in reaction to healthcare,
[1:24:14] Speaker 29: in reaction to the laws of the One thing I
[1:24:17] Speaker 29: would say.
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: Is I had no shock. Steven A. Smith had a
[1:24:22] Speaker 1: way in be very very.
[1:24:24] Speaker 30: Clear, if the Democratic Party becomes the likes of Zoranmumdani, who,
[1:24:31] Speaker 30: by the way, I like, not trying to throw any
[1:24:34] Speaker 30: shade on him or anything like that, but if the
[1:24:36] Speaker 30: Democratic Party.
[1:24:37] Speaker 1: Becomes him, you have no chance.
[1:24:40] Speaker 16: You have no chance on a national basis, in terms
[1:24:42] Speaker 16: of the presidency, in Senate seats, seats in the.
[1:24:46] Speaker 1: House, you have no chance. You have no chance. I
[1:24:50] Speaker 1: want to be very very clear about that.
[1:24:52] Speaker 16: You might have a Democratic Socialist sprinkled hair in there,
[1:24:55] Speaker 16: but that ain't what America is. America is about capitalism,
[1:24:59] Speaker 16: America about dollars and cents. American is America is about
[1:25:03] Speaker 16: an economy of florenceing economy.
[1:25:05] Speaker 3: Okay, and you know what, it's not about.
[1:25:09] Speaker 1: Free stuff.
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: Somebody got said, so.
[1:25:11] Speaker 30: I'm gonna see somebody got said, so I'm gonna see it.
[1:25:21] Speaker 1: These people, they get on my nerves. Okay, stephen A,
[1:25:32] Speaker 1: can you please do some damn research, he said, zamam.
[1:25:43] Speaker 1: Donnie then wins the racist here and there, not the presidency,
[1:25:49] Speaker 1: stephen A. In the history of America, no New York
[1:25:56] Speaker 1: City mayor has ever been president, none, not one, not one.
[1:26:12] Speaker 1: So please, what the hell are you talking about? See
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: this is the stupidity of folks who do no research,
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: and I can't believe they won. Well, this is also
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: what happens when you don't do your work. Tis James,
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: the terms General of New York State, She told CNN
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: some of the candidates that he has supported. Speaking among
[1:26:42] Speaker 1: Donnie are individuals who do not understand the politics of
[1:26:46] Speaker 1: New York City, the cultural differences from district to district,
[1:26:50] Speaker 1: who have not been part of the history and the
[1:26:53] Speaker 1: struggle of some of these districts. And are relatively new
[1:26:56] Speaker 1: to the body politic. Okay, then she said, speaking about
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: Mom Donnie, all of us are a little frustrated with
[1:27:09] Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, but you don't blow it up. That's
[1:27:12] Speaker 1: what Macca has done. Just let me help you out
[1:27:17] Speaker 1: with something, Tish. Does Macca control the White House? Yes?
[1:27:25] Speaker 1: Do they control the Senate? Yes? Do they control the House?
[1:27:34] Speaker 10: Yes?
[1:27:37] Speaker 1: For these people who are like Mama Donnie, Mama Donnie,
[1:27:40] Speaker 1: mam Donnie. He was elected mayor of New York City
[1:27:45] Speaker 1: last year? Correct? Do you know who was re elected
[1:27:51] Speaker 1: mayor last year? Andre Dickens in Atlanta? Do you know
[1:27:59] Speaker 1: who was elected re elected last year as mayor? Randon
[1:28:08] Speaker 1: Woodfin in Birmingham? Do you know who's re elected as
[1:28:16] Speaker 1: mayor Justin Bibb in Cleveland? And I can't go Lyles
[1:28:25] Speaker 1: and Charlotte. I mean I can start naming. Is the
[1:28:32] Speaker 1: world ending because those folks got elected? No, y'all. All
[1:28:36] Speaker 1: of his stupidity is because New York City is the
[1:28:38] Speaker 1: media capital of the world. It's because ABC, NBC, CVS, MS, now,
[1:28:44] Speaker 1: seeing INN, Fox News News, They're all headquartered in New York.
[1:28:49] Speaker 1: They think that what they think that New York speaks
[1:28:53] Speaker 1: for the rest of the country. No, it doesn't. And
[1:28:58] Speaker 1: this is also a math thing. So let's see here.
[1:29:03] Speaker 1: So go to my iPad House four hundred and thirty
[1:29:12] Speaker 1: five members, Senate one hundred. How many Democratic socialists represent
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: or in Congress right now? In the Senate Bernie Sanders
[1:29:37] Speaker 1: right now? How many self described Democratic socialists are there
[1:29:42] Speaker 1: in the House? One AOC Now, you did have folk
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: like Congresswoman Eyanna Pressley member of the squad, you know,
[1:30:00] Speaker 1: the group of young members that came in. Alc was one,
[1:30:03] Speaker 1: Katie Porter was another. She said, this.
[1:30:09] Speaker 7: Democratic slipper is showing. When I was coming out, my
[1:30:12] Speaker 7: grandfather used to use the expression is slip is showing
[1:30:15] Speaker 7: basically just means you're telling on yourself, pundits, you're telling
[1:30:19] Speaker 7: on yourself. Because I want to know, why is it
[1:30:21] Speaker 7: when moderates win elections, it's a new blueprint for the
[1:30:23] Speaker 7: Democratic Party, it's a bell weather for the future. And
[1:30:27] Speaker 7: when progressives win elections, we're an anomaly. It's a fluke
[1:30:33] Speaker 7: and not a mandate from the people. You slip is
[1:30:37] Speaker 7: showing your bias, is showing.
[1:30:40] Speaker 12: The people have spoken, Listen to them.
[1:30:45] Speaker 1: Preshley said, the people have spoken, and the cold what
[1:30:53] Speaker 1: I need people to understand is that there is no politician.
[1:31:02] Speaker 1: There is no Democrat, there is no Republican, there's no
[1:31:06] Speaker 1: independent who owns a seat. If you are an establishment
[1:31:14] Speaker 1: member of the party and you're mad because your candidate lost,
[1:31:20] Speaker 1: then you should be mad because your ass didn't work hard.
[1:31:26] Speaker 1: You should be mad that your campaign sucked. You should
[1:31:31] Speaker 1: be mad that your agenda wasn't as good. You should
[1:31:34] Speaker 1: be mad that you did not connect with the voters
[1:31:37] Speaker 1: in the right way. The fact of the matter is
[1:31:41] Speaker 1: voters get to choose who they want to represent them.
[1:31:52] Speaker 12: And you know what's frustrating about this is a few things.
[1:31:54] Speaker 13: First, we're seeing some of these talking heads and even
[1:31:58] Speaker 13: politicians come out for against these DSA politicians.
[1:32:02] Speaker 12: But they were quiet when it came to the war
[1:32:05] Speaker 12: on black.
[1:32:06] Speaker 13: People that we've been seeing for the past few months,
[1:32:08] Speaker 13: quiet about Jerry Manderin. But now they're so upset because
[1:32:12] Speaker 13: people in these major cities elected someone that offered to
[1:32:15] Speaker 13: feed them and get them to work and find.
[1:32:17] Speaker 3: Housing for them.
[1:32:19] Speaker 13: They don't speak up about things when it's an attack
[1:32:21] Speaker 13: on black people, but when they feel like their seats
[1:32:23] Speaker 13: are going to be up and we're done with the
[1:32:24] Speaker 13: status quo. That's when they get upset and look, they
[1:32:27] Speaker 13: need to take this as a sign. We have Denise
[1:32:30] Speaker 13: Lewis George here in DC, we have wins in Seattle, California,
[1:32:34] Speaker 13: and New York. The Democratic Party needs to take that as.
[1:32:37] Speaker 12: A sign to move to the left. We are tired
[1:32:40] Speaker 12: of these.
[1:32:41] Speaker 13: Weak salce Democrats who just drag us further and further
[1:32:45] Speaker 13: to the right when the Republicans moved to the right.
[1:32:48] Speaker 13: We need to fight back and punch harder. Okay, Now,
[1:32:51] Speaker 13: Donnie was able to turn out young voters at a
[1:32:54] Speaker 13: higher rate than we've seen in New York. And if
[1:32:56] Speaker 13: we want people to show up to the polls in
[1:32:58] Speaker 13: November and in twenty twenty eight, we have to come
[1:33:01] Speaker 13: with some heat.
[1:33:02] Speaker 12: We don't want any more satisfy.
[1:33:03] Speaker 13: We're ready to move on and fight back against the
[1:33:06] Speaker 13: power structure that we've been seeing for these past few decades.
[1:33:09] Speaker 1: Here's why I will disagree with you to some extent,
[1:33:13] Speaker 1: and that is, a democratic socialist can't run in every race.
[1:33:20] Speaker 1: That only works in certain places. I doubt very seriously.
[1:33:26] Speaker 1: A democratic socialist Matt can run in Georgia, can run
[1:33:32] Speaker 1: elsewhere well. Stephen A yeas we're a capitalists. Duh. But
[1:33:38] Speaker 1: what folk have to do is say, no, no, no,
[1:33:40] Speaker 1: what is their agenda? They were speaking to affordability, they
[1:33:45] Speaker 1: were speaking to healthcare, they were speaking to housing, they
[1:33:49] Speaker 1: were talking if you take the so called democratic socialist agenda,
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: and then you say, this is what Brandon Scott has
[1:33:59] Speaker 1: done in Baltimore, same agenda? Does he doesn't simply call
[1:34:03] Speaker 1: himself a democratic socialist, same agenda? People Matt are voting
[1:34:11] Speaker 1: for an agenda. They're not caught up in are you
[1:34:16] Speaker 1: a liberal Democrat, centrist Democrat, conservative Democrat? Are you establishment?
[1:34:23] Speaker 4: No?
[1:34:24] Speaker 1: They're saying, I need somebody who is going to speak
[1:34:28] Speaker 1: to my interest in Washington.
[1:34:31] Speaker 4: D C.
[1:34:32] Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give this person a shot. Sounds to
[1:34:35] Speaker 1: me like when I'm tea party folk got elected when
[1:34:38] Speaker 1: they took out establishment Republicans.
[1:34:44] Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's some nuance I want to add
[1:34:47] Speaker 8: to it.
[1:34:47] Speaker 14: So the first thing is, you know, I disagree fundamentally
[1:34:51] Speaker 14: with your fundamental premise that Mom Donnie is just kind
[1:34:54] Speaker 14: of cordoned off in New York and that that's not
[1:34:57] Speaker 14: going to reverberate. Ironically, I remember you and I having
[1:35:00] Speaker 14: a conversation about this a few months ago, and I
[1:35:03] Speaker 14: think the fact that mom Donnie is the mayor of
[1:35:06] Speaker 14: the biggest city in the country necessarily gives him the
[1:35:09] Speaker 14: largest stage, and what we're going to see from that
[1:35:12] Speaker 14: is likely more comfort or I guess, less reticence to
[1:35:17] Speaker 14: jump out with further left positions.
[1:35:20] Speaker 8: Maybe not here in Texas.
[1:35:22] Speaker 14: Ironically, the Texas Democratic Convention is going on here in
[1:35:25] Speaker 14: Corpus Christi for the first time, and I guess ever so,
[1:35:28] Speaker 14: I mean, Tylerico and all those folks are right down
[1:35:30] Speaker 14: the road for me. But I think what you're going
[1:35:32] Speaker 14: to see is you're going to see people around the
[1:35:33] Speaker 14: country who are not afraid of the socialism tag or
[1:35:37] Speaker 14: not afraid of the super far progressive tag. I mean,
[1:35:40] Speaker 14: I think the ghost of Joseph McCarthy is happy right
[1:35:44] Speaker 14: now because we're still.
[1:35:44] Speaker 8: Afraid of socialism.
[1:35:46] Speaker 14: But what's realistically happening is people are looking to your
[1:35:49] Speaker 14: point to some degree, at the agenda and saying it's
[1:35:52] Speaker 14: incredibly expensive to live right now. Who's talking you know
[1:35:55] Speaker 14: what I want to hear, and they're going to get
[1:35:57] Speaker 14: behind those people. But the issue here is really gatekeeping.
[1:36:00] Speaker 14: You have people who see their power slipping away and
[1:36:03] Speaker 14: they don't like that. They are new power brokers. And
[1:36:05] Speaker 14: that's because the Democratic Party, what do we complain about
[1:36:08] Speaker 14: For the last couple of years, They're not energizing people.
[1:36:10] Speaker 8: People are not excited, they don't want to go to
[1:36:12] Speaker 8: the polls.
[1:36:13] Speaker 14: Now you have somebody who is energizing people and who's winning,
[1:36:16] Speaker 14: and you have a political environment where people are looking
[1:36:19] Speaker 14: to the person with the loudest bullhorn with the best vibes. Right,
[1:36:23] Speaker 14: it's happening on the far right with Trump. That's why
[1:36:25] Speaker 14: you got reelected. That's why you have people and lockstep
[1:36:27] Speaker 14: with him. And I think Mom Donnie is showing that
[1:36:30] Speaker 14: there is going to be a movement on the opposite
[1:36:33] Speaker 14: side with the far progressives who are going to be
[1:36:36] Speaker 14: less afraid to say things that ten twenty years ago
[1:36:39] Speaker 14: would have gotten them kept out of any meaningful conversations
[1:36:42] Speaker 14: for electability.
[1:36:43] Speaker 8: So that's what I think is happening.
[1:36:44] Speaker 14: And I think the power brokers are afraid of the
[1:36:47] Speaker 14: fact that they're losing control of the party. But also
[1:36:49] Speaker 14: when you have two big tints, inherently it's gonna be
[1:36:52] Speaker 14: hard to corral everybody under that, and those moderates are.
[1:36:57] Speaker 8: Mad that they're losing control of the party. That's what
[1:37:00] Speaker 8: I see.
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: Again. I am going to stand by my position, Michael
[1:37:09] Speaker 1: that Mandannie. The focus on Mamdanni is significantly overblown because
[1:37:18] Speaker 1: he's in New York City. The reality is if this
[1:37:23] Speaker 1: was another city, it wouldn't be getting the same attention.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: It wouldn't Why because not the media capital of the world.
[1:37:31] Speaker 1: But when I look at these things again, what I
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: pay attention to. I pay attention to data. I pay
[1:37:39] Speaker 1: attention to how people look at these things. So, for
[1:37:44] Speaker 1: for instance, you take Denice Lewis George. Okay, she wins
[1:37:49] Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. Okay, this is what the Washington Post said.
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: She and masked more than seventy five thousand votes, the
[1:37:56] Speaker 1: most dominant primary performance since Adrian in two thousand and six.
[1:38:02] Speaker 1: And then when you go through this article here that
[1:38:06] Speaker 1: she exceeded Miro Bowser her race. There it laid out
[1:38:13] Speaker 1: in terms of how she performed in all of the
[1:38:16] Speaker 1: various wards And so again, what does it say. Lewis
[1:38:21] Speaker 1: George's campaign was fugeled by organized labor and tenant groups
[1:38:25] Speaker 1: which gravitated toward her players to create taxpayer funded housing
[1:38:28] Speaker 1: and universal childcare. Players that will be challenging to give
[1:38:31] Speaker 1: them US cities financial struggles. Well, guess what the two
[1:38:33] Speaker 1: of incumbents in New York City Michael lost even though
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: had they had significant labor support. I dare say that
[1:38:42] Speaker 1: what this is about, and if you are a if
[1:38:45] Speaker 1: you are a old school Democrat, what you should be
[1:38:49] Speaker 1: doing is asking the various question how did we get
[1:38:54] Speaker 1: out organized? How did they we get out mobilized? That's
[1:38:59] Speaker 1: what the bulls. Maybe you got your ass kick because
[1:39:03] Speaker 1: you weren't holding town halls, you weren't talking to your constituents,
[1:39:07] Speaker 1: you were not advancing the issues they care about. Like,
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here freaking out by what happened, because
[1:39:14] Speaker 1: what I understand is that three races in New York
[1:39:17] Speaker 1: City again are different. You got a race in Pennsylvania
[1:39:21] Speaker 1: right now where labor unions that supported traditionally support Democrats
[1:39:27] Speaker 1: are supporting the Republican candidate because he's stood strong on
[1:39:32] Speaker 1: some labor issues. So again, elections, these elections are local elections. Okay,
[1:39:40] Speaker 1: they're local elections. Primaries are even smaller than the general
[1:39:47] Speaker 1: And so if they're Democrats who are angry and upset,
[1:39:51] Speaker 1: tis James Jamie Harrison and others, guess what tell you
[1:39:57] Speaker 1: incumbents to get off their ass and do some work.
[1:40:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, Roland. So there are a few things here.
[1:40:07] Speaker 5: Number one, because I've been watching this from afar here
[1:40:11] Speaker 5: in Detroit and looking at the analysis.
[1:40:15] Speaker 3: So number one, I think that.
[1:40:19] Speaker 5: The majority of Americans across the country are more concerned
[1:40:24] Speaker 5: about results.
[1:40:26] Speaker 3: As opposed to what you call yourself. Okay, Number one.
[1:40:31] Speaker 5: Yeah, Democratic socialists. It could work in New York and
[1:40:36] Speaker 5: the New York area. I doubt if they would win
[1:40:40] Speaker 5: in a district race somewhere in Alabama or Georgia or Mississippi.
[1:40:46] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:40:47] Speaker 5: But the second thing is people want fighters, and those
[1:40:53] Speaker 5: who have traditionally voted for Democratic candidates, we hear them.
[1:40:59] Speaker 5: We've talked about this here on the show. They want
[1:41:01] Speaker 5: people who are fighters, people who are going to fight
[1:41:04] Speaker 5: for them, their families, their issues right. And this is
[1:41:08] Speaker 5: a challenge for a lot of established Democrats who may
[1:41:15] Speaker 5: be perceived as more of a go along to get
[1:41:19] Speaker 5: along or can we you know, be by party sand
[1:41:22] Speaker 5: things of this nature. And then too, I think it
[1:41:25] Speaker 5: was Matt.
[1:41:26] Speaker 3: Who made the point about the gatekeepers.
[1:41:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to have some gatekeepers in the Democratic
[1:41:32] Speaker 5: Party who were definitely threatened by this. I don't think
[1:41:34] Speaker 5: there's going to be a wave of Democratic Socialist candidates
[1:41:38] Speaker 5: who either run or even get elected, but it's going
[1:41:41] Speaker 5: to be uh, there may be policies that are adopted
[1:41:47] Speaker 5: that get woven into campaigns. And lastly, Roland, we had
[1:41:51] Speaker 5: the conversation here when Mam Donnie was running for mayor
[1:41:56] Speaker 5: and we talked about how he used social media. We
[1:41:59] Speaker 5: talked about how he went on the street and was
[1:42:01] Speaker 5: talking to people about the cost I think it was
[1:42:04] Speaker 5: palaphas or something like that, the cost of that, and
[1:42:08] Speaker 5: we talked about how other candidates were trying to mimic
[1:42:13] Speaker 5: what he's doing.
[1:42:14] Speaker 3: What he's doing.
[1:42:15] Speaker 5: So there's going to be an effect, I think from
[1:42:18] Speaker 5: how people take tactics from Mam Donnie's campaign, his successful campaign,
[1:42:25] Speaker 5: and try to utilize that, try to leverage social media,
[1:42:28] Speaker 5: try to leverage doing interviews with the man on the
[1:42:31] Speaker 5: man or woman on the street, things.
[1:42:33] Speaker 3: Of this nature.
[1:42:34] Speaker 5: But U and lastly, you know, looking at what happened
[1:42:39] Speaker 5: in New York, most of those candidates that won, the
[1:42:42] Speaker 5: Democratic Socialists, they're Latino that most of them are not white,
[1:42:46] Speaker 5: the majority of them are not white.
[1:42:47] Speaker 3: And we look at my Mam Donnie he's not white.
[1:42:50] Speaker 5: So when I hear old white people who are afraid
[1:42:55] Speaker 5: of what they see coming, there's a fear of the
[1:42:58] Speaker 5: browning of America and the Democrat Party also. Okay, so
[1:43:02] Speaker 5: we can't add like it's just Republicans now, the most
[1:43:05] Speaker 5: of it is the Republicans, but there's a fear of
[1:43:08] Speaker 5: the browning of America from some white people in the
[1:43:12] Speaker 5: Democratic Party.
[1:43:13] Speaker 3: Also.
[1:43:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first of all, I said white fear.
[1:43:16] Speaker 1: I didn't say white Republican fear. My book is called white.
[1:43:20] Speaker 3: Saying no, no, no, no, no, no no.
[1:43:22] Speaker 1: I'm making a point I'm making at my point is
[1:43:26] Speaker 1: the book is not called white Republican fear, is called
[1:43:29] Speaker 1: That's the point. And so that's people have to understand.
[1:43:33] Speaker 1: And so people need to people need to wake up
[1:43:36] Speaker 1: and realize that voters decide who wins elections. And I
[1:43:42] Speaker 1: remember when you had a prominent Democratic, a prominent Republican
[1:43:47] Speaker 1: who was in the leadership and he got upset and
[1:43:53] Speaker 1: didn't see it coming. He raised all this money and
[1:43:56] Speaker 1: he raised a ton of dough and the dude, the
[1:44:02] Speaker 1: dude who beat him. It was crazy. That guy barely
[1:44:06] Speaker 1: raised any money, had no name ID. But people were angry,
[1:44:11] Speaker 1: and Eric Canter lost to a tea party challenger they organized.
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: And so this is the whole thing for any incumbent.
[1:44:22] Speaker 1: If you're afraid of losing, If you're afraid of losing,
[1:44:27] Speaker 1: how about you get off your behind and advance an
[1:44:30] Speaker 1: agenda that speaks to where people are today. And when
[1:44:34] Speaker 1: Tis James says, well all people don't understand the history
[1:44:38] Speaker 1: of these districts, guess what, Tis James, That means nothing.
[1:44:43] Speaker 1: When districts are changing, they're literally changing. Some districts today
[1:44:50] Speaker 1: do not look like they did twenty years ago. So
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: if your campaign plan is twenty years old, you might
[1:44:58] Speaker 1: want to update it. I'm just saying we'll be right
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[1:46:57] Speaker 31: Nineteen year old Kadeer Skinner was shot in the back
[1:47:00] Speaker 31: by a police officer in Wilmington, Delaware, after officials claims
[1:47:04] Speaker 31: he exited his home he armed a loaded firearm at
[1:47:09] Speaker 31: a crowd of officers. However, his family says their conflicting
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[1:47:16] Speaker 31: during a chase, and according to police officers on patrol,
[1:47:19] Speaker 31: they were monitoring a large crowd when they observed a
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[1:47:25] Speaker 31: the firearm towards the crowd. When officers approached Skinner, he
[1:47:29] Speaker 31: fled on foot. During the chase, he was shot and
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[1:47:35] Speaker 31: Durrell Dolar, stated that the witnesses he has spoken to
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[1:47:41] Speaker 31: police shared.
[1:47:42] Speaker 6: Dolart to expressed his distress.
[1:47:44] Speaker 31: And emphasized the need for transparency regarding what happened to
[1:47:48] Speaker 31: his son. The officer involved in the shooting had been
[1:47:51] Speaker 31: placed on administrative leave during the investigation, and Arizona police
[1:47:56] Speaker 31: officer is facing trial for two counts of aggravated assault.
[1:47:59] Speaker 31: The indictment follows an internal investigation that found she used
[1:48:03] Speaker 31: excessive and unnecessary force against individuals who were handcuffed oring custody.
[1:48:09] Speaker 31: Carrie Carrico, who resigned from the Buckeye Police Department earlier
[1:48:13] Speaker 31: this month, was indicted by a grand jury.
[1:48:16] Speaker 6: She has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
[1:48:18] Speaker 31: The first incident occurred on November one, twenty twenty five,
[1:48:22] Speaker 31: when she arrested a pregnant black woman for reckless driving
[1:48:25] Speaker 31: after a traffic stop. Video from the booking facility allegedly
[1:48:29] Speaker 31: shows her pushing the woman against the wall and dragging
[1:48:33] Speaker 31: her back to a bench. The footage also appears to
[1:48:36] Speaker 31: show Carico swinging her arm toward the woman's head, seemingly
[1:48:40] Speaker 31: striking her. The second incident took place three months later,
[1:48:44] Speaker 31: in January of twenty twenty six, and was captured on
[1:48:47] Speaker 31: surveillance video. It shows her punching a handcuffed man in
[1:48:51] Speaker 31: the head.
[1:48:51] Speaker 6: Her trial now is scheduled for November.
[1:48:55] Speaker 31: A black man in Petersburg, Virginia, has been charged with
[1:48:58] Speaker 31: assault after inner in a beating incident. Taiwan Crinshaw stated
[1:49:03] Speaker 31: that while he was driving down a neighborhood Street. Earlier
[1:49:06] Speaker 31: this month, he witnessed a young man.
[1:49:08] Speaker 6: Being beaten with the board.
[1:49:09] Speaker 31: He decided to intervene, which ultimately led him to being
[1:49:12] Speaker 31: charged with the simple assault. Crenshaw, who works with individuals
[1:49:16] Speaker 31: with special needs, is a mandatory reporter, meaning he is
[1:49:20] Speaker 31: legally required to report suspected abuse or neglect of vulnerable individuals.
[1:49:26] Speaker 31: When he stopped to intervene on Baylor's lane, the situation escalated.
[1:49:31] Speaker 31: Petersburg police arrived at the scene and took a report
[1:49:35] Speaker 31: and interviewed everyone present. Following this, Crenshaw was arrested and
[1:49:39] Speaker 31: charged with the simple assault after witnesses claim he threatened
[1:49:43] Speaker 31: the attacker, Harold Parker, a claim that Crenshaw denies.
[1:49:47] Speaker 6: Two days later, Harold Parker.
[1:49:49] Speaker 31: The man accused of beating the young man, was arrested
[1:49:52] Speaker 31: in charge with abuse and neglect of an incapacitated adult.
[1:49:57] Speaker 31: Crenshaw hopes the charges against him will be drawn and
[1:50:00] Speaker 31: says he has no regrets about stepping into help. Black
[1:50:05] Speaker 31: TLC reality star Karen de Rico was arrested for threatening
[1:50:09] Speaker 31: her ex husband Dion.
[1:50:11] Speaker 6: And their fourteen kids.
[1:50:13] Speaker 31: Forty six year old Karen was arrested in Las Vegas
[1:50:16] Speaker 31: and charged on June twenty third, with harassment, violating a
[1:50:20] Speaker 31: restraining order preventing a witness from testifying through threat of
[1:50:24] Speaker 31: violent and aggravated stalking. According to court documents, Karen sent
[1:50:28] Speaker 31: several threatening emails to fifty five year old Dion.
[1:50:31] Speaker 6: Whom she shares fourteen kids with.
[1:50:34] Speaker 31: She allegedly wrote in June fourteenth an email, I want
[1:50:39] Speaker 31: you dead. I could kill you and it won't even
[1:50:42] Speaker 31: bother me to go to jail, and I'll kill any
[1:50:45] Speaker 31: of my kids if they take your side. In a
[1:50:47] Speaker 31: May second email, Karen allegedly warned Dion to watch out
[1:50:51] Speaker 31: because she planned on getting a gun and or would
[1:50:55] Speaker 31: have someone kill him before he.
[1:50:57] Speaker 6: Could go to court.
[1:50:58] Speaker 31: She has pleaded not guilty to the charges. She is
[1:51:01] Speaker 31: set to return to court August six. Karen and Dion
[1:51:06] Speaker 31: starred in the TLC series Doubling Down with the Doricos.
[1:51:10] Speaker 31: The couples filed for divorce back in twenty twenty four.
[1:51:14] Speaker 31: Well John Bolton, former national security advisor under President Trump,
[1:51:18] Speaker 31: pleaded guilty today in federal court to one count of
[1:51:21] Speaker 31: illegally retaining classified national defense information. He's agreed to pay
[1:51:25] Speaker 31: a fine of two point twenty five million dollars. Bolton
[1:51:29] Speaker 31: served in this role during Trump's first term and has
[1:51:32] Speaker 31: been a vocal critic of the president since then. He
[1:51:35] Speaker 31: appeared in court earlier today for a rearraignment in green Belt, Maryland.
[1:51:40] Speaker 31: He admitted to the unauthorized retention of national defense information.
[1:51:45] Speaker 31: Having initially faced eighteen charges, Bolton could face up to
[1:51:49] Speaker 31: five years in prison. He's scheduled to be sentenced on
[1:51:52] Speaker 31: October twenty eighth.
[1:51:55] Speaker 1: All right, really appreciate it, thanks a lot. All right,
[1:51:57] Speaker 1: folks speak of Mike Johnson. This was so hillne' He
[1:52:01] Speaker 1: was picking to a group of Republicans and he was like, man, y'all,
[1:52:05] Speaker 1: don't vote. Man, it's gonna be rough around here.
[1:52:12] Speaker 32: I am on the ballot because in a real sense,
[1:52:13] Speaker 32: he is. If we were we were to lose the midterms,
[1:52:16] Speaker 32: heaven forbid these Democrats, y'all. Impeachments not even the big concern.
[1:52:20] Speaker 32: They will turn every committee of Congress into an investigative body,
[1:52:22] Speaker 32: and they'll go after the president's family, the cabinet, his donors,
[1:52:25] Speaker 32: and friends. Half of you in this room will be targeted.
[1:52:28] Speaker 3: I run the protection program. I'll take care of you.
[1:52:30] Speaker 32: Okay, We're gonna win we're gonna win a materm Okay,
[1:52:33] Speaker 32: all right, I leave Matt.
[1:52:37] Speaker 1: You got damn right, go after every single one of
[1:52:40] Speaker 1: these crooked bastards.
[1:52:44] Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I agree with that, but I think
[1:52:46] Speaker 14: we've got to be careful. You know, I've taken that
[1:52:49] Speaker 14: position before and I'll echo it again. I think, you know,
[1:52:52] Speaker 14: we need to investigate what we know to be bonafide
[1:52:55] Speaker 14: uh misconduct, But we don't need to turn our government
[1:52:58] Speaker 14: into an investmentative body that is out praying on people
[1:53:02] Speaker 14: because now we've got the power. But I do think
[1:53:05] Speaker 14: to a tacit admission, this is Mike Johnson saying.
[1:53:10] Speaker 8: This is what we're doing.
[1:53:11] Speaker 14: They're gonna do what we're doing, so make sure you
[1:53:13] Speaker 14: vote so that we are insulated from the consequences of
[1:53:17] Speaker 14: our own action.
[1:53:18] Speaker 1: It also means him say this also means him saying, Yo,
[1:53:21] Speaker 1: they done some crooked shit. That's what they're gonna be investigating.
[1:53:24] Speaker 1: This man has been raping and pillaging. They have been
[1:53:27] Speaker 1: giving contracts in the Pentagon to companies that Don Junior
[1:53:31] Speaker 1: and Eric are investigating. Jared Kushner has become a billionaire
[1:53:37] Speaker 1: by getting money out of Saudi Arabia. While he's negotiating
[1:53:41] Speaker 1: men East so called peace deals. These people. Donald Trump
[1:53:45] Speaker 1: has pardoned numerous individuals found guilty of fraud and not
[1:53:50] Speaker 1: only just parton them saying you can keep the money
[1:53:53] Speaker 1: you stole, and they're selling those pardons. We are seeing
[1:53:57] Speaker 1: massive corruption up and down in this administration. So you
[1:54:02] Speaker 1: damn right, that needs to be congressional hearings investigating every
[1:54:07] Speaker 1: single thing that these thugs have done. Elon Musk brought
[1:54:11] Speaker 1: his punk ass in and killed investigations of his own
[1:54:15] Speaker 1: company of SpaceX of Tesla benefiting him. So yeah, you
[1:54:20] Speaker 1: damn right we need those investigations.
[1:54:23] Speaker 8: Yeah, but those things.
[1:54:24] Speaker 14: Aren't mutually exclusive. I mean what I said is consonant
[1:54:28] Speaker 14: with that. Go after people where we have evidence that
[1:54:31] Speaker 14: they've done misconduct. There's no question right now. Yeah, everything
[1:54:36] Speaker 14: and all administrating people. We're seeing people in lockstep with
[1:54:41] Speaker 14: that rampant corruption because they're buying you know what he's selling, right,
[1:54:45] Speaker 14: and the bs that this administered. I mean, we've got
[1:54:47] Speaker 14: the UFC fighting on the White House lawn, We've got
[1:54:50] Speaker 14: like this insane things. It relates to corruption. But I
[1:54:54] Speaker 14: still think we also just philosophically, I don't like the
[1:54:57] Speaker 14: idea of the government becoming you know, this witch hunt
[1:55:01] Speaker 14: where it's just out trying to get every single person
[1:55:04] Speaker 14: that's your political enemy, not only as an attorney, but
[1:55:06] Speaker 14: as a citizen.
[1:55:07] Speaker 8: I don't I don't like that idea.
[1:55:08] Speaker 14: I don't want to imbue the government with any more
[1:55:11] Speaker 14: authority to go out and pick up people that it
[1:55:13] Speaker 14: doesn't like.
[1:55:14] Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong. If there's bonafied evidence, go after.
[1:55:17] Speaker 14: It, absolutely, But I don't want those investigative agencies to
[1:55:20] Speaker 14: now be investigating every single person that's just connected without
[1:55:24] Speaker 14: bonafide evidence, because that doesn't help any of us. That
[1:55:27] Speaker 14: just exacerbates the problem we already have misconduct. If there's
[1:55:31] Speaker 14: demonstrated corruption, go after that.
[1:55:34] Speaker 1: First of all, you you can't you can't know what
[1:55:38] Speaker 1: dim You can't know what's demonstrated corruption unless you investigate.
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: And I'm get all the crooked asses they have done.
[1:55:47] Speaker 1: Hold up, they crooked ship ain't even being hidden. It's
[1:55:50] Speaker 1: like out in the open. Donald Trump, Donald Trump has
[1:55:57] Speaker 1: done more stock trades share then every member of Congress combined.
[1:56:04] Speaker 1: He is doing stock trades on a Thursday and then
[1:56:09] Speaker 1: announcing a policy decision helping that company on a Friday.
[1:56:16] Speaker 14: Yeah, we're not disagreeing. I'm merely saying we need to
[1:56:21] Speaker 14: make sure that when the government comes back to the
[1:56:24] Speaker 14: hands of Democrats, we're not encouraging lawlessness and investigation if
[1:56:29] Speaker 14: there's evidence to go after it. Absolutely nobody disagrees with
[1:56:32] Speaker 14: that premise, But I don't think it's an idea.
[1:56:34] Speaker 8: It's a good idea to say our government.
[1:56:36] Speaker 14: Needs to become this entity that's out looking for every
[1:56:39] Speaker 14: single person that may have ever committed a crime related
[1:56:42] Speaker 14: to Donald Trump because.
[1:56:43] Speaker 8: They're tangentially related.
[1:56:44] Speaker 3: I don't think we do that well.
[1:56:45] Speaker 8: I think if there's bonafied evidence to go after it.
[1:56:47] Speaker 14: Otherwise you get into the point where you have a
[1:56:49] Speaker 14: DOJ that's doing exactly what it's doing now, and that
[1:56:52] Speaker 14: does not help the American citizens Nicole.
[1:56:55] Speaker 1: When you have a DOJ that is supposed to investigate crimes,
[1:57:00] Speaker 1: investigate crimes, and if they happen to be in the
[1:57:02] Speaker 1: Trump administration, so be it. If they happen to be
[1:57:05] Speaker 1: Trump donors or family members, so be it. But these
[1:57:09] Speaker 1: crooks deserve to be investigated.
[1:57:16] Speaker 12: One percent.
[1:57:17] Speaker 13: As someone who regularly practices congressional investigations and has done
[1:57:21] Speaker 13: investigations before DOJ, Trump's DJ at that there's no way
[1:57:25] Speaker 13: that when we take the power that we're going.
[1:57:27] Speaker 12: To say that we're not going to be conducting investigations.
[1:57:30] Speaker 13: The good thing about Congress investigating specifically is that they
[1:57:33] Speaker 13: have party.
[1:57:34] Speaker 12: They have committees that.
[1:57:35] Speaker 13: Are specifically designated to investigate this type of behavior. So
[1:57:39] Speaker 13: it's not a waste of tax pair of dollars because
[1:57:42] Speaker 13: that's what we put them in those committees to do.
[1:57:44] Speaker 13: We need the Judiciary Committee to come out swinging when
[1:57:47] Speaker 13: it comes to investigations. We need Jamie Raskin to be
[1:57:50] Speaker 13: ready to go what she will be because we know
[1:57:53] Speaker 13: Jamie Raskin does not play when it comes to Congressional
[1:57:55] Speaker 13: investigations in the Constitution.
[1:57:57] Speaker 12: We don't want to sit back and just wait and
[1:57:59] Speaker 12: see what happens.
[1:58:00] Speaker 13: We need Congress to come out doing investigations and doj
[1:58:04] Speaker 13: And on top of that, if Mike Johnson is so
[1:58:06] Speaker 13: afraid that Democratic Congress will conduct these investigations, it's because
[1:58:10] Speaker 13: we know that they have something to hide. And from
[1:58:14] Speaker 13: my experience, the Republican Party has conducted so many unfounded
[1:58:18] Speaker 13: investigations into dei, transgender people, playing sports, abortion.
[1:58:23] Speaker 12: Anything that they think that their base is going to like.
[1:58:26] Speaker 13: They conduct an investigation, they have a hearing, they rally
[1:58:29] Speaker 13: their base, and they don't even find any evidence. Democratic Party,
[1:58:33] Speaker 13: we are typically a little software with our investigations, but
[1:58:35] Speaker 13: we need them to come out a lot harder and
[1:58:37] Speaker 13: expose these crooks for what they are.
[1:58:41] Speaker 1: Michael, two words from the movie How High Get Them?
[1:58:49] Speaker 5: Yeah, when Democrats get power back, they have to wield
[1:58:55] Speaker 5: power and hold all these crooks accountable. Launched investigations and
[1:59:02] Speaker 5: Mike Johnson and those thugs, they should be afraid. The
[1:59:08] Speaker 5: Democrats are going to have to balance the investigations with
[1:59:15] Speaker 5: fulfilling campaign promises, meaning focusing on affordability.
[1:59:19] Speaker 3: Also, so they're going to have to balance the two. Okay,
[1:59:22] Speaker 3: But I want to focus in quickly on something Mike
[1:59:24] Speaker 3: Johnson said. He said they have a protection program.
[1:59:28] Speaker 1: When is that?
[1:59:29] Speaker 5: Is that the Save Act? He said, they have a partise.
[1:59:31] Speaker 5: He said, don't worry, we have a protection program.
[1:59:35] Speaker 3: They have a plan. It sounds like they still the
[1:59:37] Speaker 3: election or.
[1:59:37] Speaker 5: Something, because because Trump continues to fall in the polls.
[1:59:43] Speaker 5: He's in the low thorpe thirties right, and Mike Johnson
[1:59:48] Speaker 5: is trying to calm them down. But I want to
[1:59:51] Speaker 5: know what is this protection program that you have. Okay,
[1:59:54] Speaker 5: So this is why we really need to pay attention
[1:59:57] Speaker 5: to this. There needs to be record turnout in termin elections,
[2:00:00] Speaker 5: especially from African Americans, because this is how you start
[2:00:05] Speaker 5: fighting back and stop and start the process of stopping
[2:00:09] Speaker 5: this nonsense and take it back control of the House,
[2:00:12] Speaker 5: the Senate and then in twenty twenty eight of the
[2:00:14] Speaker 5: White House.
[2:00:15] Speaker 3: But yeah, he told on himself. He told on himself
[2:00:19] Speaker 3: right there.
[2:00:20] Speaker 5: They are scared to death of what's gonna happen when
[2:00:22] Speaker 5: Democrats take control of the House and possibly the Senate.
[2:00:27] Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all take them out, take them all out.
[2:00:32] Speaker 1: These are absolutely corrupt individuals. Matt. What you're saying, why
[2:00:37] Speaker 1: I was saying.
[2:00:39] Speaker 14: Nicole's point speaks to what I was saying. She delineated
[2:00:43] Speaker 14: a number of different investigations that had absolutely no basis.
[2:00:48] Speaker 14: I'm not saying we don't investigate. I'm not saying Congress
[2:00:51] Speaker 14: doesn't need to do its job. I'm not saying that's
[2:00:53] Speaker 14: not important. I'm merely saying we have to be concerned
[2:00:56] Speaker 14: when the government is imbued with this power to investigate
[2:01:00] Speaker 14: whatever it wants to investigate and whomever it wants to investigate,
[2:01:03] Speaker 14: Because what that does is that trickles down to a
[2:01:06] Speaker 14: point where people are going to be falsely accused, and
[2:01:09] Speaker 14: there's gonna be a lot of people caught in the
[2:01:11] Speaker 14: fray who are not the blatant corruption. Obviously, blatant corruption,
[2:01:14] Speaker 14: you go and get that. But we as a general
[2:01:17] Speaker 14: proposition need to be metered in how we use government
[2:01:20] Speaker 14: investigative prosecutor. Point wise, your point, an investly not guilty
[2:01:26] Speaker 14: to be as charge the point the point I mean
[2:01:29] Speaker 14: does criminal defense.
[2:01:30] Speaker 1: The point of an investigation is to seek the information
[2:01:35] Speaker 1: to see if there was criminal wrongdoing. That's the point
[2:01:39] Speaker 1: of an investigation. An investigation and an indictment and a
[2:01:43] Speaker 1: trial are different things. And what I'm saying it needs
[2:01:47] Speaker 1: to be investigated. It needs to be investigate. Pay to
[2:01:50] Speaker 1: place schemes in this administration when it comes to handing
[2:01:55] Speaker 1: out money. You got to investigate whether tobacco industry may
[2:01:59] Speaker 1: donationans right before the vaping decision came down. You got
[2:02:04] Speaker 1: to investigate if these companies made donations right before these
[2:02:09] Speaker 1: EPA decisions came down. That's the whole point of the investigation.
[2:02:15] Speaker 1: So I can't wait for Democrats to take control of
[2:02:19] Speaker 1: Congress and forced these thugs to reveal the evil that
[2:02:25] Speaker 1: they have been doing. Folks. A couple of passing of
[2:02:29] Speaker 1: giants in journalism. Rosetta Miller Perry, frontline civil rights activist,
[2:02:34] Speaker 1: journalists and businesswoman, most famously as founder and CEO lieutendanc Tribune,
[2:02:39] Speaker 1: has become an ancestor. She served in the United States
[2:02:41] Speaker 1: Navy and then became one of the first black students
[2:02:44] Speaker 1: ever granted a degree from Memphis State University. After attending
[2:02:47] Speaker 1: Howard Law School, she spent twenty five years working for
[2:02:50] Speaker 1: both the US Commission on Civil Rights and later the
[2:02:52] Speaker 1: Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, investigating discrimination cases against across the South.
[2:02:57] Speaker 1: Unable to secure bank loans, she invested seventy thousand holes
[2:03:00] Speaker 1: of a personal savings in nineteen ninety one to start
[2:03:02] Speaker 1: the Tennessee Tribune. The paper became an institution in Nashville
[2:03:05] Speaker 1: and across Tennessee as she used the paper to press
[2:03:08] Speaker 1: for racial equality and champion black entrepreneurship. Later, she founded
[2:03:12] Speaker 1: the Nashville Black Chamber of Commerce. Zanna Miller Perry passed
[2:03:16] Speaker 1: away at the age of ninety one. Folks. Tony Brown,
[2:03:21] Speaker 1: a giant of American journalism, has died. His family announced
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: on Facebook earlier today that he passed away last week.
[2:03:30] Speaker 1: He was a prolific journalist, activist, and educator, also a
[2:03:33] Speaker 1: proud member of Alpha Phi Alpha Attorney Incorporated. This here, folks,
[2:03:37] Speaker 1: is what they posted on Facebook. Tony Brown, host and
[2:03:41] Speaker 1: executive producer of Tony Brown's Journal, the longest running series
[2:03:45] Speaker 1: in the history of the PBS Network, made his peaceful
[2:03:47] Speaker 1: transition on June seventeen, twenty twenty six, at his home
[2:03:51] Speaker 1: in Newport News, Virginia. He died of coronary heart disease.
[2:03:55] Speaker 1: Brown was an influential television journalist, educator, and civil rights
[2:03:58] Speaker 1: advocate whose groundbreaking elevated black voices in media in higher
[2:04:02] Speaker 1: education for more than four decades. Widely regarded as a
[2:04:06] Speaker 1: champion of truth, empowerment, and opportunity, Brown dedicated his life
[2:04:11] Speaker 1: to the principle of self help in the pursuit of excellence.
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: Tony Brown was also a prolific author, keynote speaker, and
[2:04:20] Speaker 1: media entrepreneur. His work consistently empowered His work consistently emphasized
[2:04:25] Speaker 1: empowerment through knowledge and accountability. He was a recipient of
[2:04:31] Speaker 1: numerous honors, including Educator of the Year, Communicator of the Year,
[2:04:36] Speaker 1: and the Ambassador of Free Enterprise Award. Brown built a
[2:04:41] Speaker 1: lasting legacy as a trailblazer in both media and academia.
[2:04:45] Speaker 1: Born William Anthony Brown and Charleston, West, Virginia, Brown was
[2:04:48] Speaker 1: a proud graduate of Garnett High School, an all Black
[2:04:52] Speaker 1: schools that helped shape that helped shape his life in
[2:04:55] Speaker 1: the lives of many future leaders. His primary education at
[2:04:59] Speaker 1: Garnett formed the foundation of a life devoted to learning, leadership,
[2:05:03] Speaker 1: and service. Brown carried those early lessons with him throughout
[2:05:07] Speaker 1: his life. At Garnett, he joined the track team and
[2:05:11] Speaker 1: excel in academics, especially English and drama. He performed in
[2:05:15] Speaker 1: school plays and shortly began for graduating. In nineteen fifty one,
[2:05:19] Speaker 1: performed segments of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar on w g kV
[2:05:23] Speaker 1: radio in Charleston. After completing his military service in the
[2:05:27] Speaker 1: US Army from nineteen fifty three to nineteen fifty five,
[2:05:29] Speaker 1: Brown enrolled at Wayne State University in Detroit, where he
[2:05:32] Speaker 1: studied sociology and psychology and earned a bachelor's degree in
[2:05:35] Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine. Motivated by a deep concern for the
[2:05:38] Speaker 1: effects of poverty and African American communities, he continued his
[2:05:41] Speaker 1: education at Wayne State. He received a master's degree in
[2:05:43] Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one in psychiatric social work. He briefly worked
[2:05:47] Speaker 1: as a social worker, deepening his understanding of people, communities,
[2:05:51] Speaker 1: and the challenges they faced. Brown was a devoted member
[2:05:54] Speaker 1: of Alpha Bay Alpha Attorney, joining a brotherhood known for scholarship,
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: leadership and civic engagement. In nineteen sixty too, Brown turned
[2:06:00] Speaker 1: to journalism, joining the Detroit Courier as a drama critic.
[2:06:04] Speaker 1: He quickly rose the position of editor, establishing himself as
[2:06:07] Speaker 1: a prominent voice in the city's media landscape. In nineteen
[2:06:10] Speaker 1: sixty eight, he left the newspaper to pursue a career
[2:06:12] Speaker 1: in public affairs broadcasting at WTVS, Detroit's public Tavy station.
[2:06:17] Speaker 1: Although next three decades, Brown became a pioneering figure in
[2:06:20] Speaker 1: television programming focused on black audiences and issues. At WTVS,
[2:06:25] Speaker 1: he produced Colored People's Time, the station's first program specifically
[2:06:28] Speaker 1: aim at a black audience, as well as Free Play,
[2:06:32] Speaker 1: another community centered show. Activism was central to Brown's work.
[2:06:35] Speaker 1: In addition to maintaining a strong presence and community oriented programming,
[2:06:39] Speaker 1: he launched Initiatives' aim at advancing economic and educational opportunities
[2:06:44] Speaker 1: for African Americans called television Civil Rights Crusader and a
[2:06:47] Speaker 1: cover story by Black Enterprise magazine. Brown also played a
[2:06:51] Speaker 1: significant role in the civil rights movement. This self help
[2:06:54] Speaker 1: proponent coordinated a Detroit march in nineteen sixty three that
[2:06:58] Speaker 1: featured Martin Luther King Junior and accord of This This
[2:07:00] Speaker 1: Week magazine drew an estimated five hundred thousand people, perhaps
[2:07:03] Speaker 1: the largest civil rights of march in America. It's also
[2:07:06] Speaker 1: believed to be the first time Doftter King delivered his
[2:07:08] Speaker 1: famous I Have a Dream speech You Say. Today's selected
[2:07:10] Speaker 1: Brown as one of the top five leaders to analyze
[2:07:12] Speaker 1: the status of Black America. Best known as a longtime
[2:07:16] Speaker 1: host and executive producer of the award winning television program
[2:07:19] Speaker 1: Tony Brown's Journal, Brown became a central figure in American
[2:07:23] Speaker 1: broadcasting history. In nineteen seventy, he was named executive producer
[2:07:26] Speaker 1: and the host of Black Journal, a New York based
[2:07:28] Speaker 1: public television program that had debuted two years earlier and
[2:07:32] Speaker 1: aired Nashally. The program combined commentary, documentaries, and public opinion segments.
[2:07:37] Speaker 1: Brown tenure at Black Journal was often controversial. His fourth
[2:07:40] Speaker 1: right criticism of the US government's impact on African American life,
[2:07:44] Speaker 1: along with his uncompromising editorial style, drew criticism from both
[2:07:49] Speaker 1: broadcasting circles and segments of the black community. In nineteen
[2:07:52] Speaker 1: seventy three, Corporations for Public Broadcasting announced it would withdraw
[2:07:56] Speaker 1: funding for the program. The decision prompted pro tests from
[2:08:00] Speaker 1: around the country, and Black Journal continued to air, albeit
[2:08:05] Speaker 1: on a limited basis. In nineteen seventy seven, Brown secured
[2:08:09] Speaker 1: a sponsorship agreement with the Pepsi Cola Company, relaunching the
[2:08:13] Speaker 1: program as Tony Brown's Journal and Movie get to commercial television.
[2:08:17] Speaker 1: The show return to public television, where Brown hosted the
[2:08:20] Speaker 1: nationally syndicated series for forty years. The Emmy nominated program
[2:08:24] Speaker 1: became the longest running series in the history of Public
[2:08:28] Speaker 1: of PBS and was ranked among the top ten television
[2:08:30] Speaker 1: shows of all time presenting positive Black images by The
[2:08:33] Speaker 1: New York Daily News. Tony Brown's Journal is an irreplaceable
[2:08:36] Speaker 1: primary record of African American opinion and experience. The TV
[2:08:39] Speaker 1: series received the nineteen ninety one NAACP Image Award for
[2:08:42] Speaker 1: Outstanding News, Talk or Information. The series special even before
[2:08:46] Speaker 1: Tony Brown retired. The Emmy nominated award winning series. In
[2:08:48] Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, it had become the longest running
[2:08:50] Speaker 1: series in the history of PREBS Network. In nineteen seventy nine,
[2:08:54] Speaker 1: it was, according to the ac Nielsen Company, the number
[2:08:57] Speaker 1: one rated syndicated talk educational national tvcies. Tonny Brown's influence
[2:09:01] Speaker 1: extended far beyond the television screen. He was a passionate educator.
[2:09:05] Speaker 1: He served as a professor at Central Washington University, Federal
[2:09:08] Speaker 1: City College, Howard University, and the Hampton University. Brown helped
[2:09:11] Speaker 1: shape the next generation of journals. In nineteen seventy one,
[2:09:13] Speaker 1: he founded the School of Communications at Howard University in Washington,
[2:09:16] Speaker 1: d C. And served as his dean until nineteen seventy four.
[2:09:19] Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty, he founded Black College Day and effort
[2:09:22] Speaker 1: to encourage students to consider HBCUs and preserved those important
[2:09:26] Speaker 1: institutions for generations to come. The US Congress officially designated
[2:09:29] Speaker 1: the last Monday in September to honor that observance. He
[2:09:32] Speaker 1: also founded the Council for the Economic Development of Black Americans,
[2:09:35] Speaker 1: whose by Freedom campaign urged support for black owned businesses,
[2:09:38] Speaker 1: even creating Freedom Dollars to address the issue of drug addiction.
[2:09:42] Speaker 1: He wrote and produced the film The White Girl. In
[2:09:45] Speaker 1: two thousand and four, he returned to academia as the
[2:09:47] Speaker 1: first Dean of the Howard School Journalism Communications at Halfty
[2:09:51] Speaker 1: University in Virginia, position he held til two thousand and nine.
[2:09:54] Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, Brown was inducted into the Strip's Howard
[2:09:57] Speaker 1: School of Journalism and Communications Hall of Fame and recognition
[2:10:00] Speaker 1: of his leadership in transforming the school into one of
[2:10:02] Speaker 1: the nation's top journalism programs. In addition to his TV work,
[2:10:06] Speaker 1: Brown hosted influencer radio talk show Holes in New York
[2:10:08] Speaker 1: on WLIB Chicago WLS, connecting with delicious in a more
[2:10:12] Speaker 1: personal way.
[2:10:13] Speaker 3: Talkers.
[2:10:14] Speaker 1: The prestigious Radio Trade magazine named him one of the
[2:10:16] Speaker 1: one hundred most important radio talk show hosts in America.
[2:10:21] Speaker 1: He also wrote books, including Black Lives, White Lives. The
[2:10:24] Speaker 1: Truth according to Tony Brown, Empowered the People, a seven
[2:10:28] Speaker 1: step planing to overthrow the conspiracy that is stealing your
[2:10:30] Speaker 1: money in freedom and what Mama taught be the seven
[2:10:33] Speaker 1: Core Values of Light two thousand and three interview Tony Brown,
[2:10:38] Speaker 1: when I was at Texas A and m when he
[2:10:39] Speaker 1: came to College station and Michael again, A lot of
[2:10:43] Speaker 1: people you know, of course, he had been sick and
[2:10:46] Speaker 1: had been out of the limelight for the last you know,
[2:10:50] Speaker 1: fifteen or so years, but profound impact in the nineteen seventies, eighties, nineties,
[2:10:56] Speaker 1: and early two thousands.
[2:11:00] Speaker 5: That said, today, when I found out that he passed away,
[2:11:04] Speaker 5: I followed Tony Brown on Facebook.
[2:11:07] Speaker 3: I've watched it. I grew up watching. I'm fifty five.
[2:11:10] Speaker 5: I grew up watching Tony Brown's journal every weekend because
[2:11:15] Speaker 5: my parents watched Tony Brown's journal. So I watched him
[2:11:18] Speaker 5: for years from when I was a little kid up
[2:11:22] Speaker 5: until I was in college. And I bought his book
[2:11:27] Speaker 5: back in the early nineties, Black Lives, White Lives. He
[2:11:29] Speaker 5: had people like doctor Claude Anderson on his show, Doctor
[2:11:33] Speaker 5: Chancellor Williams, doctor Malefic, KETTYA Sante, Jim Brown. He talked
[2:11:38] Speaker 5: about doctor King, Malcolm X, stereotypes of the movies, all
[2:11:42] Speaker 5: different types of subjects impacting African Americans. And you know,
[2:11:47] Speaker 5: he's a big influence on me. He's one of the
[2:11:51] Speaker 5: inspirations for me starting the African History Network show in
[2:11:55] Speaker 5: twenty ten. You know, seeing him right there, you know,
[2:12:00] Speaker 5: you know now, this this is a big loss. You
[2:12:03] Speaker 5: know this, this brother, I think is very underrated. And
[2:12:07] Speaker 5: he was a big proponent proponent for economic empowerment for
[2:12:12] Speaker 5: for African Americans.
[2:12:13] Speaker 3: UH as well. So uh, you know, this is why
[2:12:16] Speaker 3: we need journalists, This is why we need uh.
[2:12:20] Speaker 5: Brothers and sisters to have TV shows to bring this
[2:12:24] Speaker 5: type of information, this type of empowerment uh to people.
[2:12:27] Speaker 5: But you know, this is a big loss. He's going
[2:12:29] Speaker 5: to be missed. And we both graduated from Wayne State
[2:12:33] Speaker 5: as well, I mean just a few years after him.
[2:12:36] Speaker 1: And it was again, it was it was, you know,
[2:12:38] Speaker 1: his his talk show was uh, well you know again
[2:12:41] Speaker 1: he was, you know, putting the screws to folks. Uh.
[2:12:45] Speaker 1: And I remember he wrote, uh Nicole, I remember he
[2:12:49] Speaker 1: wrote a column criticizing the gathering. Come on, go to
[2:12:53] Speaker 1: my iPad. Come on, what I mean, thank you to
[2:12:56] Speaker 1: go to the iPad. Uh. He he was highly critical
[2:13:00] Speaker 1: Cogression of Black Caucus for the gatherings for the coggreccial
[2:13:03] Speaker 1: of Black Caucus Foundation, saying, listen, why spend all that money?
[2:13:06] Speaker 1: I think it was like chicken wings and meat balls,
[2:13:09] Speaker 1: And he said, you should be putting that money together
[2:13:11] Speaker 1: to buying hotels.
[2:13:15] Speaker 13: And one of the beautiful things we know about mister Brown,
[2:13:18] Speaker 13: is that he dedicated his life to service, and not
[2:13:21] Speaker 13: just service, but service for black people, specifically at a
[2:13:24] Speaker 13: time where even though that's difficult to do today.
[2:13:26] Speaker 12: With the pressures that we faced from the federal government,
[2:13:28] Speaker 12: it was even harder back then. So I mean, all
[2:13:32] Speaker 12: we can do is.
[2:13:32] Speaker 13: Thank him for a service and be proud that we
[2:13:34] Speaker 13: get to follow in the footsteps of somebody that is
[2:13:37] Speaker 13: so great and dedicated so much of their time.
[2:13:39] Speaker 12: To helping people that look like us even be able
[2:13:42] Speaker 12: to speak on a platform like this.
[2:13:44] Speaker 13: So, like y'all already said, we lost the giant, but
[2:13:47] Speaker 13: I know having gained somebody great.
[2:13:49] Speaker 1: So let's see, Matt, do you remember Tony Brown? Matt
[2:13:53] Speaker 1: just checking.
[2:13:55] Speaker 3: I don't.
[2:13:55] Speaker 14: I don't vividly, but I will tell you, I mean truthfully,
[2:13:59] Speaker 14: but I'll tell you that it's an extraordinary thing to
[2:14:02] Speaker 14: watch your for bears, the people who've laid that road
[2:14:06] Speaker 14: for you. I mean, I took classes in the school
[2:14:08] Speaker 14: to see that he found it. And I know a
[2:14:11] Speaker 14: lot of people who are on you know, media around
[2:14:13] Speaker 14: the country, my fellow students from Howard who benefited from
[2:14:17] Speaker 14: the legacy that he left.
[2:14:19] Speaker 8: So I don't want to be dishonest. I don't remember
[2:14:21] Speaker 8: his show.
[2:14:21] Speaker 14: I'm not as long as the tooth as Michael, but
[2:14:24] Speaker 14: nonetheless I do appreciate his legacy.
[2:14:26] Speaker 1: This was Tony Brown interviewing William Road and regarding his
[2:14:31] Speaker 1: book forty Million Dollar Slave. In fact, this is the
[2:14:35] Speaker 1: anniversary of that. Watch this good deliver this.
[2:14:38] Speaker 25: I'm Tony Brown. Can a slave make forty million dollars?
[2:14:43] Speaker 25: Or can forty million dollars a year make a slave?
[2:14:47] Speaker 25: Or is the term quote forty million dollars slave end
[2:14:52] Speaker 25: quote an oxymoron?
[2:14:55] Speaker 3: Then what about putting it another way?
[2:14:57] Speaker 25: Author William c Rodin also explains this phenomenon as quote
[2:15:02] Speaker 25: the Rise, Fall and Redemption of the Black Athlete. My guest,
[2:15:08] Speaker 25: of course, on this program is William c Rodin. He
[2:15:12] Speaker 25: is a New York Times sports columnist and author of
[2:15:16] Speaker 25: forty Million Dollar Slaves, The Rise, Fall and Redemption of
[2:15:20] Speaker 25: the Black Athlete.
[2:15:21] Speaker 3: Welcome, sir, No, thank you very much, honor, thank you.
[2:15:24] Speaker 1: It's my honor.
[2:15:25] Speaker 25: And not only do you have this book out, but
[2:15:30] Speaker 25: I understand within a very short period of time months
[2:15:33] Speaker 25: even you have another book that's coming out.
[2:15:35] Speaker 11: What's the name of this, It's a book called Third
[2:15:37] Speaker 11: a mile it's an oral history of black quarterbacks, which
[2:15:40] Speaker 11: I'm pretty excited about too.
[2:15:42] Speaker 1: Fat there a couple of that was actually twenty years ago,
[2:15:45] Speaker 1: forty Million Hours Slaves, And this is the twentieth anniversary
[2:15:48] Speaker 1: of that book. And so Shirley condolences go to Tony
[2:15:52] Speaker 1: Brown and his family. And of course Michael he was
[2:15:56] Speaker 1: an alpha man, just saying I.
[2:15:58] Speaker 3: Know he's an alpha, but but well we both from university.
[2:16:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, you know we're forgiven for that. You need
[2:16:05] Speaker 1: to have Yeah, okay, you need to have some tie in.
[2:16:08] Speaker 5: But yeah, but Roland very quickly with the Congressional Black Caucus,
[2:16:13] Speaker 5: he talked about you need to put that money into
[2:16:15] Speaker 5: a fund that you spend on the parties and spend
[2:16:18] Speaker 5: on the weekend, and he said, leverage it ten times
[2:16:21] Speaker 5: and buy hotels so you can have conferences that black
[2:16:25] Speaker 5: on hotels.
[2:16:26] Speaker 3: That's how that brother was thinking that.
[2:16:28] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean absolutely, he was phenomenal. And this,
[2:16:31] Speaker 1: of course so real quick. This was a quick interview
[2:16:33] Speaker 1: he did with Angela Davis. Here a little bit of
[2:16:35] Speaker 1: that by gone era on this program.
[2:16:38] Speaker 25: I watched the winds of change whip through the late
[2:16:41] Speaker 25: fifties and sixties, heralding in the civil rights movement. I
[2:16:45] Speaker 25: coordinated the march in Detroit nineteen sixty three, led by
[2:16:48] Speaker 25: Martin Luther King, which drew over five hundred thousand people,
[2:16:52] Speaker 25: believed to be the largest civil rights march in America.
[2:16:55] Speaker 25: It also may be the first time Martin Luther King
[2:16:58] Speaker 25: delivered it's famous I Have a Dream speech. Things were
[2:17:01] Speaker 25: peaceful then, but the ideals of the civil rights era
[2:17:09] Speaker 25: gave way to the angry rhetoric of young blacks who
[2:17:12] Speaker 25: believed that violence was the only way to get justice.
[2:17:15] Speaker 15: In many cases, you have police forces unleashed on them
[2:17:19] Speaker 15: because they are peacefully demonstrated. And my position is that
[2:17:24] Speaker 15: we do not stand there and allow ourselves to be
[2:17:29] Speaker 15: shot down and beaten. We have we have the human
[2:17:32] Speaker 15: right to defend ourselves and to defend our principles and
[2:17:35] Speaker 15: defend what we want to do. And so I would
[2:17:38] Speaker 15: say that in the event of violence and a revolution,
[2:17:42] Speaker 15: you always have to see that in the context of
[2:17:45] Speaker 15: defending gains of the people, we have a right to
[2:17:48] Speaker 15: defend those games.
[2:17:49] Speaker 25: In nineteen seventy two, Angela Davis was much sought after
[2:17:52] Speaker 25: by the media when she was released from JABS. She
[2:17:56] Speaker 25: gave me the first interview because she said our audience
[2:17:59] Speaker 25: was responsible for her release from jail. Right or wrong,
[2:18:03] Speaker 25: there was a lot of sticking together. Then the era
[2:18:06] Speaker 25: of overt racism ended through a succession of court decisions
[2:18:10] Speaker 25: and legislative action, replaced by conservative mood, which now ironically
[2:18:16] Speaker 25: calls itself colorblind. But the disguised attempts to distort history
[2:18:21] Speaker 25: will never replace the goodness the voices and images of
[2:18:25] Speaker 25: that era, the voices of freedom. As doctor King wrote
[2:18:29] Speaker 25: from his Alabama jail quote, we will win our freedom
[2:18:34] Speaker 25: because the sacred heritage of our nation and the eternal
[2:18:37] Speaker 25: will of God are.
[2:18:39] Speaker 3: Embodied in our echoing demands. End of quote.
[2:18:43] Speaker 25: Racism has never permanently won a battle, and it never will.
[2:18:48] Speaker 25: I'm Tony Brown in a moment visions and images of
[2:18:52] Speaker 25: the struggle of old.
[2:18:56] Speaker 1: Tony Brown, nine three years old. Let me think, Michael,
[2:19:00] Speaker 1: let me thank Nicole uh and let me thank the
[2:19:03] Speaker 1: longhorned fan Matt Manning for being on today's show. Certainly
[2:19:06] Speaker 1: appreciate it, of course. Let me shout out Wilberforce. I'm
[2:19:10] Speaker 1: wearing this shirt of gout from Wilberforce University. Yesterday I
[2:19:14] Speaker 1: wore I wore I was of course, Uh wore another
[2:19:20] Speaker 1: shirt the Marauders yesterday and which is across street from Wilberforce,
[2:19:24] Speaker 1: and like, yo, when you go win our shirt? I
[2:19:26] Speaker 1: told you, I'm like, calm down, I was wearing We're
[2:19:28] Speaker 1: shaking your HAIRD for Matt Why why are you shaking
[2:19:31] Speaker 1: your head? What's the problem.
[2:19:33] Speaker 8: I'm just listening, broad, I mean listening.
[2:19:35] Speaker 1: I thought you had issues over that us O that
[2:19:37] Speaker 1: just like you just swing lord, I mean with singing
[2:19:43] Speaker 1: the Negro Negro Negro.
[2:19:45] Speaker 8: Wearing Howard shirt in quite a long time.
[2:19:47] Speaker 1: It's all I'm saying, Well, there are one hundred that
[2:19:49] Speaker 1: there arend there are one hundred and three HBCUs and
[2:19:53] Speaker 1: so you know, I have to get through and I've
[2:19:57] Speaker 1: I've been a fifty eight of them. So I only
[2:19:59] Speaker 1: wear giar hbcs I've been to and so how was
[2:20:02] Speaker 1: not the only one that I've been to? Well anything else?
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