# NAACP Sues Over TN Map. Trump 'Loves' Inflation. DOJ Targets Black Programs.

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 11 Jun 2026, 2 h 07 min.

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6.10.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: NAACP Sues Over TN Map. Trump 'Loves' Inflation. DOJ Targets Black Programs. _ For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* _ Black members of Congress want to ensure faith leaders understand the Johnson Amendment and do not violate more than 70 years of legal precedent prohibiting churches and nonprofits from officially endorsing political candidates. Congressman Glenn Ivey and former Congressman G.K. Butterfield will be here to explain the Johnson Amendment. The twice-impeached, criminally convicted felon-in-chief, Donald "The Con" Trump, has a new, surprising take on the higher cost of living: "I love the inflation." Three Georgia midwives have filed a lawsuit challenging the state's restrictive midwifery laws, saying they worsen maternal health outcomes and violate constitutional rights. We'll talk to one of the midwives and her attorney. The NAACP filed for a preliminary injunction to block Tennessee's new congressional map, drawn and approved in a matter of days during a special legislative session last month. NAACP's Associate General Counsel will join us to explain the lawsuit. The Justice Department is really busy these days. We'll tell you about the latest investigation targeting more black programs. And two young black brothers from Missouri were trying to sell lemonade. But someone called 911 on them. I have a few thoughts about that Black Star Network Partner: Chapter For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[18:39] Speaker 2: Hey Function day is Wednesday, June tenth, twenty twenty six.
[18:41] Speaker 2: Coming up.
[18:42] Speaker 9: I'm rolland Mark on the Filter Seeming live in the
[18:44] Speaker 9: Black Started Network. I'm here in Nashville, literally at the
[18:47] Speaker 9: airport of the NFL Alumni. They have their celebrity golf
[18:51] Speaker 9: tournament taking place tomorrow benefiting their kids charities. We'll be
[18:55] Speaker 9: hearing from some of the people who'll be attending this
[18:58] Speaker 9: parings party right here.
[19:00] Speaker 2: The Turnament take place on tomorrow.
[19:02] Speaker 9: Lots to talk about, including Ohio congress Woman Sean Teal Brown,
[19:06] Speaker 9: check in Kentucky Congress and Jim Comer.
[19:08] Speaker 2: When him made a comment and regarding you.
[19:10] Speaker 9: People, pall, was he talking about you people when it
[19:14] Speaker 9: came to welfare.
[19:16] Speaker 2: I think y'all can guess that one right there.
[19:19] Speaker 9: Three Georgia midwives have fouled a lawsuit against the state,
[19:22] Speaker 9: challenging what they say is a restrictive law. We're here
[19:25] Speaker 9: from them of regarding their suit as well the twice
[19:29] Speaker 9: in peach criminally convicted fellow in the chief Donald of Cohn.
[19:31] Speaker 2: Trump says he isn't my inflation.
[19:35] Speaker 9: Oh really, but I thought that's why you were always
[19:39] Speaker 9: trashing Joe Biden. Wait till we play for you what
[19:42] Speaker 9: he actually had to say today. Also, folks, faith leaders
[19:48] Speaker 9: also saying they want to protect the Johnson Amendment that
[19:52] Speaker 9: protects five O one C three's we're gonna tell you
[19:54] Speaker 9: about that as well. Plus two young brothers from Missouri
[19:58] Speaker 9: trying to sell lemonade. Someone calls nine one one. Tom's
[20:02] Speaker 9: fill a great deed, But I want to talk about
[20:04] Speaker 9: the person to call nine one one life for us
[20:07] Speaker 9: to break down, is time to bring the phone.
[20:08] Speaker 2: I'm rolling Mark on filtered on the blackstud Network.
[20:11] Speaker 4: Let's go.
[20:12] Speaker 7: He's got whatever the best, He's sold it, whatever it.
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[20:20] Speaker 11: he's right on top and is rolling best. Believe he's
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[20:48] Speaker 2: She's real.
[20:49] Speaker 7: Good question, No, he's rolling montage.
[20:52] Speaker 9: Now, hey, folks, up coming to you live from Nashville
[21:09] Speaker 9: where the NFL alumni they'll be holding their golf tournament tomorrow.
[21:12] Speaker 9: They're going to be having their party tonight, raising funds
[21:16] Speaker 9: for their children Children's charity. Want to thank former Tennessee
[21:20] Speaker 9: Titan Al Smith for inviting me and so look forward
[21:23] Speaker 9: to talking with him and some others about the work
[21:25] Speaker 9: that they do here, bringing together all of these former
[21:28] Speaker 9: players for the great work that they do when it
[21:31] Speaker 9: comes to children. So we're here at the Nashville Airport,
[21:34] Speaker 9: at the Hilton Airport, here at the hotel. So if
[21:38] Speaker 9: y'all here, so if y'all hear planes flying over, now,
[21:42] Speaker 9: you understand exactly where we are. So we'll get to
[21:45] Speaker 9: that a little bit later. Where this starts in about
[21:47] Speaker 9: an hour. First off, let's talk about politics of the day.
[21:50] Speaker 9: It was something called the Johnson Amendment, and that that
[21:53] Speaker 9: was an important, important provision put in place by then
[21:57] Speaker 9: Senate Majority Leader Lynnon Baines Johnson, and he of course,
[22:01] Speaker 9: it doubled the issue of tax exempt status as well
[22:06] Speaker 9: from nonprofits. It said that they could not officially endorse
[22:11] Speaker 9: political candidates. Now Donald Trump at the behast of all
[22:16] Speaker 9: of these right wing conservative preachers. They want that to
[22:19] Speaker 9: be lifted so they can endorse from the pulpit. Now
[22:22] Speaker 9: here's the deal. It doesn't mean that a preacher cannot
[22:25] Speaker 9: personally endorse. What they can't do is engage in partisan
[22:29] Speaker 9: politics from the pulpit. But these right wing pastors, it
[22:33] Speaker 9: is exactly what they want to do. Congressman Glenn Ivy
[22:36] Speaker 9: of Maryland joness right now.
[22:38] Speaker 2: Shortly we'll be.
[22:38] Speaker 9: Hearing from former Congressman J. G. K. Butterfield as well.
[22:43] Speaker 9: I'll start with you, Congressman.
[22:47] Speaker 2: This is real simple.
[22:48] Speaker 9: These right wing pastors that they have been flouting this law.
[22:51] Speaker 9: They've been flouting this they don't like it. They want
[22:55] Speaker 9: to be able to engage in naked partisanship from the pulpit.
[22:59] Speaker 9: They want to be able to stand in their pulpits
[23:02] Speaker 9: and denigrate, as a lot of them have already done
[23:05] Speaker 9: this literally threatening the ris to come after them. And
[23:09] Speaker 9: so this is all about white right wing conservative evangelicals
[23:14] Speaker 9: and Donald Trump.
[23:16] Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.
[23:16] Speaker 3: I mean this has gotten started back with Jerry Fowell
[23:19] Speaker 3: and the Moral Majority back in the eighties, and they
[23:22] Speaker 3: built this into the evangelical political movement. That's now a
[23:26] Speaker 3: big wing of the Trump Maga wing of the Republican Party.
[23:31] Speaker 3: But you're right, they're trying to do explicit endorsements. They
[23:35] Speaker 3: want to really continue to ramp up partisan engagement in
[23:40] Speaker 3: the pulpit and at the same time, you know, try
[23:43] Speaker 3: and push back against African American communities. We haven't been
[23:46] Speaker 3: explicit like they have, but we've had souls to the
[23:49] Speaker 3: polls and the like. And so this conference we want
[23:52] Speaker 3: to put on on Monday, you know, and this is
[23:55] Speaker 3: Congress and Clyburn sort of the leader on all of this,
[23:59] Speaker 3: is to help, you know, church's pastors to understand where
[24:03] Speaker 3: that line is, what they can and cannot do to avoid,
[24:07] Speaker 3: you know, to be involved and make a difference politically
[24:09] Speaker 3: in their communities, but not cross the line and put
[24:11] Speaker 3: their five oh one C three status at risk because
[24:14] Speaker 3: we know the Trump administration.
[24:15] Speaker 9: But I'm trying to understand this. I'm trying to understand
[24:20] Speaker 9: this conreers IVY. So the IRS lifted that exemption. So
[24:23] Speaker 9: the OURS said that churches can endorse from the pulpit,
[24:30] Speaker 9: and I've heard many others say, Okay, great, guess what
[24:32] Speaker 9: Black pastors should be taking advantage of this? As well,
[24:36] Speaker 9: and so is that what's going on here is that
[24:38] Speaker 9: we're talking about.
[24:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and Congress and Butterfields the expert on this,
[24:43] Speaker 3: but that's certainly what the pronominant white evangelical churches have
[24:47] Speaker 3: been doing. I think it's important for us to continue
[24:49] Speaker 3: to be careful, frankly, and I'd like to see make
[24:52] Speaker 3: sure that the Johnson Amendment is strengthened and clarified so
[24:57] Speaker 3: that we know exactly where that line is because trumb administration,
[25:00] Speaker 3: as we know, is not above using the IRS and
[25:03] Speaker 3: the Department of Justice to go after their perceived adversaries.
[25:07] Speaker 3: They're doing that with Letitia James and others. So we
[25:10] Speaker 3: want to make sure we stay out of those crosshairs.
[25:13] Speaker 3: But at the same time, we want to make sure
[25:15] Speaker 3: justice like we've done in the past, the faith community
[25:18] Speaker 3: has always been in the backbone, not just to the
[25:19] Speaker 3: civil rights movement, but for African American politics and frankly,
[25:23] Speaker 3: Democratic Party politics as well. We need to make sure
[25:26] Speaker 3: we don't cross any lines or put ourselves at risk,
[25:29] Speaker 3: but still get the job done come November.
[25:33] Speaker 2: So are you suggesting that you believe that.
[25:37] Speaker 9: The Trump folks would penalize the black churches for doing
[25:41] Speaker 9: exactly what these conservative right, white wing pastors would be doing.
[25:46] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely.
[25:49] Speaker 3: I don't think we should assume there's going to be
[25:52] Speaker 3: equal treatment or you know, they're going to treat us
[25:54] Speaker 3: with the same yardstick that they treat white evangelic evangelical pastors,
[25:58] Speaker 3: because we know that they're doing any and everything they
[26:01] Speaker 3: can to try and tilt this election in their favor.
[26:03] Speaker 3: Just like when he sees ballots in Fulton County, US
[26:06] Speaker 3: the FBI to do that a couple of weeks ago.
[26:09] Speaker 3: We're fully expecting them to try other tactics. He's tried
[26:12] Speaker 3: to nationalize the elections. In fact, he stated he was
[26:14] Speaker 3: going to do that from the White House with an
[26:16] Speaker 3: executive order. And I don't think they're above getting ice
[26:20] Speaker 3: and potentially even the National Guard out in some of
[26:22] Speaker 3: these polling places too. So I think we need to
[26:25] Speaker 3: be ready for any and all of those kinds of things.
[26:28] Speaker 3: I think the Democratic Party serving the House, d Triple
[26:31] Speaker 3: C and others, and many of the advocacy groups are
[26:35] Speaker 3: preparing for those kinds of things, ACLU and the like.
[26:38] Speaker 4: You know, we want to make sure we have.
[26:40] Speaker 3: Lawyers on the ground and also we have full volunteers
[26:44] Speaker 3: out there being you know, you know, pole watchers and
[26:47] Speaker 3: the like, to make sure that we're ready for anything
[26:49] Speaker 3: that could happen. And also to reassure voters that they
[26:53] Speaker 3: can it's going to be safe and fine for them
[26:56] Speaker 3: to come out to vote. And the other piece of
[26:59] Speaker 3: this is, I think critic important is making sure that
[27:01] Speaker 3: people have a voting plan and that they vote early,
[27:04] Speaker 3: and even beyond that, go check to make sure you
[27:08] Speaker 3: haven't been purged from the polls from your local election board,
[27:12] Speaker 3: right because there's a lot of purges that have taken
[27:14] Speaker 3: place around the country too, So this needs to be
[27:16] Speaker 3: a full scale and across the board effort. The Johnson
[27:19] Speaker 3: Amendments an important piece of that. But we've got to
[27:22] Speaker 3: make sure we're crossing all the t's and dotting all
[27:25] Speaker 3: the y's come election day, because this is a big one.
[27:29] Speaker 9: Former Congress Ivan if North Carolina GK. Butterfield Joness right
[27:32] Speaker 9: now in Congressman.
[27:33] Speaker 2: We're talking about obviously this issue.
[27:37] Speaker 9: So this conference that's taking place, where is it taking place,
[27:40] Speaker 9: who is invited, and what do you hope the message
[27:45] Speaker 9: will be leaving there?
[27:48] Speaker 4: Well, first of all, let me say good evening to you.
[27:50] Speaker 8: Roland and to Congressman Imi, thank you for lifting up
[27:53] Speaker 8: this conversation this evening. This is very very important stuff
[27:57] Speaker 8: that we're talking about. You know, our pastor and others
[28:00] Speaker 8: in the faith community have really really misunderstood of what
[28:04] Speaker 8: the ris requires of churches. Back in nineteen fifty four,
[28:09] Speaker 8: the United States Congress passed a very simple law that
[28:12] Speaker 8: said that churches and nonprofits are prohibited from directly participating
[28:18] Speaker 8: in political campaigns. What that means is that pastors and
[28:22] Speaker 8: churches cannot endorse candidates. It does not prohibit a church
[28:27] Speaker 8: or a religious organization or even a nonprofit from voter
[28:32] Speaker 8: education and get out to vote efforts and voter registration
[28:35] Speaker 8: drives and voted souls to the polls and all the
[28:39] Speaker 8: other programs that we have. The Jossit Amendment only prohibits
[28:43] Speaker 8: churches from endorsing candidates. And so I want to send
[28:47] Speaker 8: a message out to the faith community that we've got
[28:49] Speaker 8: to understand that churches and nonprofit organizations that mine nine
[28:54] Speaker 8: for sure can be involved in political campaigns. They just
[28:59] Speaker 8: cannot endorse a candidate, they cannot oppose a specific candidate,
[29:03] Speaker 8: but they can certainly get involved.
[29:07] Speaker 9: Okay, So explain then, the restriction the IRS lifted earlier.
[29:15] Speaker 8: Well, there was a lawsuit in Texas against the IRIS
[29:19] Speaker 8: saying that the Johnson Amendment is unconstitutional.
[29:22] Speaker 4: That case is still wrapped up in the courts.
[29:26] Speaker 8: The trial judge refused to go along with it, and
[29:29] Speaker 8: so now it's on appeal to the US Supreme Court.
[29:33] Speaker 8: But in the meantime, the Internal Revenue has said that
[29:36] Speaker 8: they are not going to enforce the Johnson Amendment, which
[29:40] Speaker 8: basically means the churches can really have free reign to
[29:44] Speaker 8: do whatever they need to do in order to get
[29:47] Speaker 8: out the vote in this election.
[29:49] Speaker 4: The Trump administration is opposed to the Johnson Amendment, the
[29:52] Speaker 4: RS is.
[29:53] Speaker 8: Opposed to it, and so I don't suspect that there
[29:55] Speaker 8: will be any enforcement against any churches who get involved
[29:59] Speaker 8: in getting out to vote in this election.
[30:01] Speaker 4: Churches must be involved.
[30:03] Speaker 8: We must have at.
[30:08] Speaker 9: But as Congressman I we said earlier, the issue that
[30:11] Speaker 9: we have is this year, we know how vindictive the
[30:15] Speaker 9: Trump administration is. So the question then becomes if they
[30:18] Speaker 9: say they're not going to enforce it, well, then what
[30:21] Speaker 9: happens if a Black church endorses from the pulpit and
[30:25] Speaker 9: then they say, oh, we're coming after your five and
[30:27] Speaker 9: one C three status.
[30:30] Speaker 4: Well, ronand we don't need our churches endorsing candidates.
[30:32] Speaker 13: That's not what we need.
[30:34] Speaker 8: We need our churches involved in getting out the vote.
[30:37] Speaker 8: Our voters are going to do the right thing. We
[30:39] Speaker 8: don't need to endorse candidates. We need to mobilize and
[30:42] Speaker 8: energize and make sure that we have a.
[30:48] Speaker 2: Congressman. I understand that point. But here's my whole point.
[30:50] Speaker 9: But if they are going to be endorsing candidates from
[30:54] Speaker 9: the pulpit, then why shouldn't black pastors.
[30:59] Speaker 8: Well, if a black pastor word to endorset candidate from
[31:02] Speaker 8: the pool pit, I venture to say, there will be
[31:04] Speaker 8: no repercussions at all. But what I'm encouraging our pastors
[31:07] Speaker 8: to do is, don't endorse a candidate from the pool pit.
[31:10] Speaker 8: Just get up there and talk about the importance of
[31:12] Speaker 8: voting and what is at stake. If we don't vote
[31:15] Speaker 8: in this election, how Trump is going to continue to
[31:18] Speaker 8: be able to run heaven over.
[31:19] Speaker 4: Our communities, eliminate diversity and equity.
[31:22] Speaker 8: And all of the other programs that we have cutting
[31:25] Speaker 8: back on HBCUs and medicaid and vote staff. We don't
[31:28] Speaker 8: need to be particularly endorsing candidates. We need to preach
[31:32] Speaker 8: from the pool pit the importance of voting.
[31:37] Speaker 9: Well, I'll say this here, Congress Robbing. I think it
[31:41] Speaker 9: has to be even more explicit and more specific. And
[31:45] Speaker 9: what I have been saying is I don't want preachers
[31:48] Speaker 9: saying just vote. What I want them to do is
[31:51] Speaker 9: somewhat will Corners and Butterfield just say it there. What
[31:54] Speaker 9: I want them to do is say these are the
[31:57] Speaker 9: things that they have done that have been high black
[32:00] Speaker 9: and list those things, because I think part of the
[32:03] Speaker 9: issue that we are seeing is that is that the
[32:06] Speaker 9: reality is it's not resonating among especially eighteen forty four.
[32:11] Speaker 2: Hey needs you to vote.
[32:12] Speaker 10: No.
[32:13] Speaker 2: No, We need to be saying this is what they've
[32:15] Speaker 2: actually done. They've cut this, this, this, this, this. Those
[32:20] Speaker 2: preachers need.
[32:21] Speaker 9: To have the data on how the cuts have impacted
[32:24] Speaker 9: their state, their city, their communities, their neighborhoods.
[32:29] Speaker 2: That was what should be happening here.
[32:31] Speaker 9: And what I've heard from black preachers is that their
[32:34] Speaker 9: fear is that even though the Trump folks here they're
[32:37] Speaker 9: not going to enforce the Johnson Amendment, their fear is
[32:40] Speaker 9: that they might get targeted, and now they're having to
[32:42] Speaker 9: deal with legal fees and all sort of or the drama.
[32:45] Speaker 9: And that's why some say, hey, I don't want any
[32:48] Speaker 9: part of endorsing.
[32:51] Speaker 4: Let me put it this way, Roland.
[32:52] Speaker 8: Our pastors can talk about anything that relates to a
[32:55] Speaker 8: campaign and an election.
[32:57] Speaker 4: The only thing I'm cautioning.
[32:58] Speaker 8: Against is endor're seeing a specific candidate. We can talk
[33:02] Speaker 8: about that track record, we can talk about their voting record.
[33:05] Speaker 4: What they're for, what they're against.
[33:07] Speaker 8: I just don't want our passions endorsing a particular candidate.
[33:13] Speaker 2: Well, and the point there, Kinsman Ivy.
[33:15] Speaker 9: The fear is again if you do, they might come
[33:19] Speaker 9: after you, even though they say they're not going to
[33:21] Speaker 9: enforce them.
[33:23] Speaker 7: Both right.
[33:23] Speaker 3: We just looked at a poll this morning that talked
[33:26] Speaker 3: about the African American voters, especially young men under forty,
[33:30] Speaker 3: and what the issue is for them. They're not particularly
[33:33] Speaker 3: attached to specific individuals. But to the point you made earlier,
[33:38] Speaker 3: they're getting what's going on, you know, in their lives.
[33:40] Speaker 3: They're seeing the impact you know, prices of groceries, you know,
[33:44] Speaker 3: the cost for gasoline. The challenge is getting jobs, keeping
[33:47] Speaker 3: a roof over your head, all of those things. The
[33:49] Speaker 3: key thing we need to be doing is connecting those
[33:52] Speaker 3: problems that they're having with what the Trump administration has
[33:56] Speaker 3: done to cause those problems. And then we also need
[33:59] Speaker 3: to be able to say these are the types of
[34:01] Speaker 3: things that we can do to fix them, and we
[34:03] Speaker 3: need to talk about those in short term and long
[34:06] Speaker 3: term steps so they have a sense of exactly how
[34:09] Speaker 3: we can help to fix their problems and improve their lives.
[34:12] Speaker 3: Because they just want to make sure they've heard politicians
[34:15] Speaker 3: on both sides, many of them are pretty cynical about
[34:17] Speaker 3: what's going on at that level. They want results, and
[34:21] Speaker 3: I think that's what we have to discuss in the church.
[34:26] Speaker 2: All right, So where's this event taking place next week? Location? Time?
[34:31] Speaker 9: And is it going to be a live stream for
[34:34] Speaker 9: people who cannot attend it to still be able to watch.
[34:38] Speaker 13: Yeah.
[34:38] Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's virtual and you can go to IVY dot
[34:41] Speaker 3: House dot gov and you can tap into this and
[34:44] Speaker 3: it's going to be Monday, June fifteenth at seven o'clock.
[34:47] Speaker 4: So we'd love to have as many folks to involve.
[34:49] Speaker 3: Pastors in particular Al Sharpton's going to be a special
[34:53] Speaker 3: guest at this event as well as Congressman Clyburn. So
[34:56] Speaker 3: it should be a good and informative time, and we're
[34:59] Speaker 3: looking forward to getting some feedback too from pastors who
[35:02] Speaker 3: participate in the call.
[35:03] Speaker 13: We're not just going to talk at them.
[35:05] Speaker 3: We want to have a dialogue and hear what they're
[35:06] Speaker 3: seeing at the ground level and get a sense of
[35:09] Speaker 3: what we can do to help them, help to turn
[35:11] Speaker 3: out the vote and mobilize their congregations.
[35:17] Speaker 9: All right, Congress and Glenn Ivey, former Congress and GK. Butterfield,
[35:20] Speaker 9: surely appreciate both of y'all being on the show. Thanks
[35:22] Speaker 9: a lot.
[35:23] Speaker 13: Thanks.
[35:27] Speaker 9: All right, then, folks, let's bring in my panel, Rebecca Carrothers,
[35:30] Speaker 9: President's CEO, Fair Election Center, joining us from the nation's capital, Washington.
[35:36] Speaker 1: D C.
[35:37] Speaker 2: Glad to have her with us.
[35:39] Speaker 9: Robert Pattillo, civil rights attorney the Batilla Law Firm out
[35:42] Speaker 9: of Atlanta. Nicole Robertson, political law attorney and strategists out
[35:46] Speaker 9: of d C.
[35:46] Speaker 2: Glad to have all three of y'all here.
[35:49] Speaker 9: Listen, It is a slip, It is a slippery slope, Rebecca,
[35:53] Speaker 9: dealing with this administration. These people are liars, they're cheats,
[35:58] Speaker 9: they're corrupt, and the reality is I see and Donald
[36:02] Speaker 9: Trump has made it clear he will go after his
[36:05] Speaker 9: enemies in a heartbeating. So I think that's one of
[36:09] Speaker 9: the reasons why you hear from a congress but if
[36:11] Speaker 9: you'll say, hey, don't endorse because they may target you.
[36:15] Speaker 2: But let that white right wing pasture off the hook, Roland.
[36:22] Speaker 6: Regardless, black churches and all black institutions are under attacked
[36:26] Speaker 6: by this administration, full stop, Regardless if you comply with
[36:30] Speaker 6: the law, Regardless if you comply with the court ruling
[36:34] Speaker 6: that suggests that the IRS will no there enforced that
[36:37] Speaker 6: particular amendment. Black institutions are under attack. So whether or
[36:41] Speaker 6: not pastors are openly endorsing from the poolpit, they will
[36:45] Speaker 6: be under attack by this administration.
[36:48] Speaker 7: That's the reality.
[36:49] Speaker 6: And to me, the practicality of understanding that reality is
[36:52] Speaker 6: Black communities, black institutions need to start fundraising for legal
[36:57] Speaker 6: funds understanding that at at some point we all will
[37:01] Speaker 6: be under attacked by this administration. And so I understand
[37:05] Speaker 6: why the congressmen and the former congressmen, we're both trying
[37:09] Speaker 6: to be cautious and in not providing a directive for
[37:13] Speaker 6: pastors who openly endorse from the pulpit. The reality is
[37:17] Speaker 6: black churches will be under attack.
[37:22] Speaker 2: Well, I do believe Robert that there should be a child.
[37:28] Speaker 9: I believe those black preachers should be deciding, hey, you
[37:31] Speaker 9: know what, let's have several of us actually do it.
[37:35] Speaker 9: Let's see if they try to come after us and
[37:38] Speaker 9: then go to court and say, now, wait a minute.
[37:40] Speaker 9: You just say a word to the white preachers, but
[37:42] Speaker 9: you're attacking black preachers. That should be a part of
[37:45] Speaker 9: this strategy, the roulin.
[37:47] Speaker 13: That should be the entirety of the strategy. We have
[37:50] Speaker 13: to realize, after you know, about four hundred years in
[37:53] Speaker 13: this country, you're not going to out nice people when
[37:57] Speaker 13: it comes to dealing with the political fight. The corporations
[38:01] Speaker 13: are investing hundreds of billions of dollars into lobbying. People
[38:04] Speaker 13: devote their entire lives and careers to elections. Millions, tri billions,
[38:10] Speaker 13: and trillions of dollars are come down to how these
[38:13] Speaker 13: votes turn out. And we're not just going to say, well,
[38:16] Speaker 13: if we don't say anything, hopefully they won't notice us. No,
[38:19] Speaker 13: we have to attack the constitutional validity of this. We
[38:22] Speaker 13: need every black pastor in the country not just to
[38:26] Speaker 13: temperately endorse, to full throatedly endorse and also denounce people
[38:31] Speaker 13: such as President Trump because they have an ungodly administration,
[38:35] Speaker 13: and then dare them to come after every black church
[38:37] Speaker 13: in America. At the same time, what we we don't
[38:40] Speaker 13: need to be hiding at this moment. We don't need
[38:43] Speaker 13: to be bowing our hands and simply saying, well, maybe
[38:45] Speaker 13: we can get by. This is the moment where we
[38:48] Speaker 13: have to realize de folks storm the capitol already, you
[38:51] Speaker 13: can't buy ammal in this country because they're hiding it
[38:54] Speaker 13: in palace. These folks are ready for action, They're ready
[38:57] Speaker 13: to move. They see this as their singular opportunit unity
[39:00] Speaker 13: to undo the last one hundred and fifty years of
[39:02] Speaker 13: American history and it put us back right back to
[39:04] Speaker 13: where we were in the pre reconstruction South. And so
[39:08] Speaker 13: the idea that we're simply going to try and convince
[39:11] Speaker 13: them and conjole them and say, well, people will do
[39:13] Speaker 13: the right thing. No, you don't see these lobbyist groups
[39:16] Speaker 13: saying people are just going to do the right thing,
[39:18] Speaker 13: hope hopefully. You don't think Zuckerberg and Elon Musk and
[39:21] Speaker 13: Jeff Bezos are just hoping people do the right things.
[39:24] Speaker 13: You don't think these megare these pastors who depend on
[39:26] Speaker 13: these tax breaks and the investments of all these right
[39:30] Speaker 13: wing organizations are hoping people are going to do the
[39:32] Speaker 13: right things. You have to fight fire with the exact
[39:35] Speaker 13: same fire they're bringing you. And I think the minute
[39:38] Speaker 13: this goes into effect, every single preacher should also become
[39:40] Speaker 13: a lobbyist. They just start lobbying from the poolpit that
[39:44] Speaker 13: day and find the videos directly to the Department of
[39:47] Speaker 13: Justice and dare them and take this to the Supreme
[39:49] Speaker 13: Court and have a decision one way the other. So
[39:52] Speaker 13: it applies to everyone evenly. But we're not going to
[39:55] Speaker 13: hide our way out of this.
[39:58] Speaker 2: Nicole.
[40:00] Speaker 12: That's exactly right.
[40:02] Speaker 14: And the Black church has been the backbone of the
[40:05] Speaker 14: civil rights movement, of black movements for liberations since the
[40:08] Speaker 14: Black church was in existence, So we can't be afraid.
[40:11] Speaker 7: We can't hide.
[40:12] Speaker 14: Like Robert just said, we have to come out just
[40:15] Speaker 14: like how the white churches are going to come out
[40:16] Speaker 14: to because what we're going to see is wealthy donors,
[40:20] Speaker 14: billionaires and millionaires and Trump supporters throwing their money at
[40:24] Speaker 14: white pastors, at white political leaders so that they can
[40:27] Speaker 14: get those endorsements and build more political power. And we
[40:31] Speaker 14: have to do the exact same thing the Black church
[40:34] Speaker 14: is a powerful structure in the black community, and right
[40:38] Speaker 14: now people are looking for leaders, they're looking for somewhere
[40:40] Speaker 14: to go. They're looking for advice about who they should
[40:43] Speaker 14: vote for and who they should not vote for. So
[40:45] Speaker 14: the Black Church needs to actually take advantage of this
[40:47] Speaker 14: and not hide in the shadows and be afraid of
[40:50] Speaker 14: what the Trench administration might do, because we don't even
[40:53] Speaker 14: know what's going to happen yet. So we need to
[40:55] Speaker 14: come out fighting and swinging back just like they're doing.
[41:00] Speaker 2: Well.
[41:00] Speaker 9: We have made perfectly clear that there is a GOP
[41:03] Speaker 9: war on Black America. We made perfectly clear if this
[41:07] Speaker 9: is happening all across the board, and absolutely we must
[41:10] Speaker 9: be in a fighting posture. God take a break, we
[41:13] Speaker 9: come back. We're gonna talk about story out of Georgia
[41:16] Speaker 9: where midwives are fighting against Republicans changing the law there.
[41:20] Speaker 9: NAACP is fighting the Tennessee Congressional District's got that lawsuit
[41:25] Speaker 9: as well. You've got others who are now trying to
[41:29] Speaker 9: help the Carmelo Anthony family fight thirty five year jail
[41:32] Speaker 9: sentence that he received yesterday in Texas. A lot for
[41:36] Speaker 9: us to unpack right here on Roland Martin on Pilchrip
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[43:09] Speaker 13: What's happening?
[43:10] Speaker 2: This is your man motown recording artist Kim. You are
[43:13] Speaker 2: watching the Blackstar Network. Fulk thirty five years in prison.
[43:44] Speaker 9: That's what a jury Texas jury sentence Carmelo Anthony two
[43:48] Speaker 9: for the murder of another teen Austin Metcalf. Carmelo Anthony,
[43:52] Speaker 9: seventeen years old, was convicted yesterday and then they had
[43:57] Speaker 9: the sentencing phase as well, and his defense only called
[44:02] Speaker 9: one particular witness. You know this is you know, people
[44:06] Speaker 9: are now speaking out on this. We've been covering this
[44:10] Speaker 9: trial from day one. The trial only lasted seven days
[44:15] Speaker 9: actually I know actually was even shorter than that. And
[44:18] Speaker 9: so again he was convicted. He's going to have served
[44:22] Speaker 9: at least half of those years before he's eligible for parole.
[44:27] Speaker 9: And now jurors could have sentenced him to as little
[44:31] Speaker 9: as two years in prison or up to the rest
[44:33] Speaker 9: of his life. Prosecutors said they really wanted a long
[44:37] Speaker 9: jail sentence. Texas law allowed Anthony to be charged as
[44:41] Speaker 9: an adult even though he was seventeen years old the
[44:43] Speaker 9: time of the incident that took place at track meet
[44:46] Speaker 9: in April twenty twenty five, when he stabbed seventeen.
[44:49] Speaker 2: Year old Austin Metcalf.
[44:53] Speaker 9: Reports indicated that Carmelo is being kept in a secure
[44:56] Speaker 9: area of the Collin County jailed away from the general
[44:59] Speaker 9: inmate population.
[45:01] Speaker 2: As before.
[45:01] Speaker 9: He is transferred to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.
[45:05] Speaker 9: So I'm gonna go to Robert first. Here, Robert, a
[45:08] Speaker 9: lot of people obviously are sick and satin. They were
[45:12] Speaker 9: standing with him, saying that he was defending himself. That
[45:16] Speaker 9: was a self that was the self defense theory they
[45:21] Speaker 9: took to the case. I'm can you explain, just from
[45:25] Speaker 9: your perspective, what the hell his defense attorney was doing. Listen,
[45:32] Speaker 9: Carmelo Anthony is on trial and they they have a
[45:35] Speaker 9: self defense. He doesn't put Kamela Anthony on the stand.
[45:40] Speaker 9: They have very few people testify on Kamala Anthony's behalf.
[45:43] Speaker 2: Okay, he gets convicted.
[45:45] Speaker 15: What I don't understand is how in the hell do
[45:48] Speaker 15: you only call one person for centizing. I mean I'm
[45:52] Speaker 15: sitting there going, so you call his mother. It's important,
[45:55] Speaker 15: But my god, I'm sitting there saying, no.
[45:58] Speaker 9: You flood football his fellow players, coaches, pastors, church members.
[46:05] Speaker 10: I mean, you.
[46:07] Speaker 2: Call twenty thirty people. I'm like, what the hell was
[46:11] Speaker 2: this law?
[46:12] Speaker 7: You're doing.
[46:14] Speaker 5: Well.
[46:15] Speaker 13: One. I very rarely criticize what other people do in
[46:17] Speaker 13: court because there are a lot of externalities that take place,
[46:20] Speaker 13: and was easily to the Monday morning quarterback in most cases.
[46:25] Speaker 13: But one let's start with a couple of things. One
[46:27] Speaker 13: of the procedural's posture where the case is now one
[46:31] Speaker 13: people to understand that this is a convictionate trial. It
[46:34] Speaker 13: is not the end of the case. They're more than
[46:36] Speaker 13: likely it's already ben filed a most for a new
[46:38] Speaker 13: trial in the case, pointing out any procedural errors that
[46:41] Speaker 13: were allowed in by the judge, any evidence that was
[46:43] Speaker 13: put in, other issues that can trigger a new trial. Also,
[46:46] Speaker 13: more than likelyness will be appealed to a higher tribunal
[46:49] Speaker 13: and more than likely appealed thereafter. These cases often take
[46:52] Speaker 13: many years to a ri.
[46:54] Speaker 2: Robert, this is Texas bro. This is Texas bro. I'm
[46:58] Speaker 2: just being straight up. I ain't got as zero hold
[47:02] Speaker 2: for appeal, you.
[47:06] Speaker 13: Will be surprised. I worked with Barrie who I work
[47:09] Speaker 13: with Barrysheck, who found out the inn This is project
[47:11] Speaker 13: on the National Association Criminal Defense Lawyers and Executive Board
[47:14] Speaker 13: for many years. They have won harder cases and harder
[47:17] Speaker 13: jurisdictions that when when we dive into the trial transcript,
[47:21] Speaker 13: when you get into the motions, you can usually find
[47:23] Speaker 13: something that we can get you a leaf before appeals
[47:26] Speaker 13: court judge and then you have every opportunity now on
[47:28] Speaker 13: the question of why didn't they call more witnesses. You
[47:31] Speaker 13: call witnesses when they have something Jermaine to say that
[47:33] Speaker 13: that will help your defense. If you don't have somebody
[47:35] Speaker 13: who's going to say something that is going to help
[47:37] Speaker 13: your defense, you do not put them on the stand.
[47:39] Speaker 13: Only bad things happen. Why don't you call the defendant
[47:43] Speaker 13: on the stand, because everything you put in front of him,
[47:45] Speaker 13: he will also be subject across examination, and often they
[47:48] Speaker 13: can hurt the case more than they actually help it
[47:50] Speaker 13: by putting them on the stand. Because often even if
[47:52] Speaker 13: you're innocent, people aren't used to testifying at trial. People
[47:56] Speaker 13: have contradictions, they slip up in words. The prosecutor on
[48:00] Speaker 13: the other side are purpose They've been going over these
[48:02] Speaker 13: files for months just to know how to do exactly.
[48:05] Speaker 2: That on the on the I got that. On the sentencing,
[48:10] Speaker 2: go ahead, yeah, on the sentencing.
[48:13] Speaker 13: You also have to ask yourself this question. We are
[48:15] Speaker 13: all looking at this from you know, from news and television,
[48:18] Speaker 13: seem the family, et cetera. How do we know how
[48:20] Speaker 13: many people had good things to say? How many people
[48:23] Speaker 13: do you we know for a fact would have gotten
[48:25] Speaker 13: on the stand and said the and said these wonderful
[48:28] Speaker 13: things that would have helped him out, or would that
[48:30] Speaker 13: have actually rob The point is we don't actually know everything.
[48:34] Speaker 2: To blow your head, Robert, Robert, Robert.
[48:37] Speaker 9: If we got a if we got a young black
[48:39] Speaker 9: kid who was what captain of the football team three
[48:44] Speaker 9: point seventh grade point average, I think you can find
[48:48] Speaker 9: more than one person than his mama to talk about
[48:52] Speaker 9: him in the sentencing phase. I mean, I'm saying, they
[48:55] Speaker 9: let me. Let's be clear, they literally the jury literally
[49:00] Speaker 9: got this case.
[49:02] Speaker 15: They deliberate for less than three hours, convicted him, then
[49:07] Speaker 15: they went back in and sentenced him all in.
[49:10] Speaker 2: The same day. I'm just saying, like, that's all you
[49:14] Speaker 2: put up is one person.
[49:19] Speaker 13: But This is why we have to do poost mortems.
[49:22] Speaker 13: We look at these things. You can always get You
[49:23] Speaker 13: can file a appeal for ineffective assistance of counsel and
[49:26] Speaker 13: bring all these questions in and demand a new trial
[49:29] Speaker 13: on the abas, so that if there was ineffective assistance
[49:31] Speaker 13: of council going into this. But I put someone's grandmama
[49:34] Speaker 13: on the stand one time during the Suncy hearing and
[49:36] Speaker 13: Columbus Georgia on the armed robbery case, expecting the grandmama
[49:40] Speaker 13: to say all these wonderful things. The grandmama, and this
[49:43] Speaker 13: is a quote, she'd say, his ass always been bad.
[49:46] Speaker 13: They shall put him under the jail. That is what
[49:48] Speaker 13: his grandmama said. So I'm saying, we don't know everything
[49:51] Speaker 13: that went into it. So let's hold the fire until
[49:53] Speaker 13: we get more details and start concentrating on what proactively
[49:56] Speaker 13: can be done with regards to a new trial and
[49:58] Speaker 13: an appeal to actually bring justice into the case. You
[50:01] Speaker 13: never know what's going on. It's like when you open
[50:03] Speaker 13: up the hood of a car. You think it's straightforward,
[50:06] Speaker 13: and now the whole thing's on fire. So instead of
[50:09] Speaker 13: figuring out all of the things that went wrong, let's
[50:11] Speaker 13: figure out what we can do right going forward to
[50:13] Speaker 13: bring justice.
[50:15] Speaker 9: Nicole, this real deal, this hot I look at it.
[50:19] Speaker 9: Your client was convicted of murder, not the lesser charge.
[50:24] Speaker 9: The prosecutors made it clear they wanted him for a
[50:26] Speaker 9: whole number of years.
[50:28] Speaker 2: That tells me house is already on fire. I gotta
[50:32] Speaker 2: do everything I can.
[50:34] Speaker 9: And I'm sorry if I'm at the sentencing phase. I'm
[50:37] Speaker 9: not just gonna call one person his mother to testify
[50:40] Speaker 9: about his character. I need, I need to make something
[50:44] Speaker 9: out of this hell, make this thing a one day,
[50:47] Speaker 9: two day thing.
[50:48] Speaker 2: It was literally prosecutor, no defense, one person. I boom, jaredy.
[50:53] Speaker 2: We go all right, we can go ahead, sentence him
[50:55] Speaker 2: to prison. We can be home for dinner.
[50:59] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[51:00] Speaker 14: And I mean, there's so many troubling things about this case.
[51:02] Speaker 14: It almost felt like it was over before it started.
[51:05] Speaker 14: The fact that he didn't have anybody on the jewelry
[51:07] Speaker 14: that looked like him. When in America you're supposed to
[51:09] Speaker 14: have a jury of your peers, and then we get
[51:12] Speaker 14: to this part of the case where there's not really
[51:14] Speaker 14: a strong defense mounted for him. It looked like the
[51:17] Speaker 14: odds were stacked against him from the moment that he
[51:19] Speaker 14: picked his attorney. Now, I will say that to Robert's
[51:22] Speaker 14: point earlier, sometimes you don't know what witnesses are going
[51:24] Speaker 14: to stay on the stand. But he has such a
[51:27] Speaker 14: strong academic background, such a strong athletic background, that hopefully
[51:31] Speaker 14: somebody at the school, somebody in his family had one
[51:34] Speaker 14: positive thing to say about him that could withstand cross examination. Now,
[51:39] Speaker 14: in the event that there is a new trial, maybe
[51:41] Speaker 14: he picks another attorney, Maybe they go in with a
[51:43] Speaker 14: new strategy and try to find more people that can
[51:46] Speaker 14: say positive things about him. But I mean, at this point,
[51:49] Speaker 14: he had nothing to lose because everything was already stacked
[51:52] Speaker 14: against him. So his attorney probably could have taken a
[51:55] Speaker 14: little bit more of a risk and called to more
[51:57] Speaker 14: people to the stand to testify on his.
[51:59] Speaker 9: Palf Look, Rebecca, a lot of people have been comment
[52:05] Speaker 9: and a lot of people have been saying, Oh my god,
[52:07] Speaker 9: I can't believe this happened. Listen, we were recovering this
[52:10] Speaker 9: from day one. I never thought for a second that
[52:15] Speaker 9: this was not gonna happen. We're talking to Collin County,
[52:17] Speaker 9: not Dallas County. You had, you know, Pelma Anderson talked
[52:21] Speaker 9: about what she called these racist comments from the prosecutor
[52:25] Speaker 9: in terms of listen, this is a conservative.
[52:29] Speaker 2: This is the county that let Ken Paxton off. Okay,
[52:32] Speaker 2: this is a.
[52:32] Speaker 9: Conservative county, mostly white, and so the writing was on
[52:37] Speaker 9: the wall. Again, I was very shocked with the attorney
[52:41] Speaker 9: they went with. I just never got the sense that
[52:46] Speaker 9: and again watching this and looking at who they call
[52:49] Speaker 9: that he put on an aggressive defense, and I just
[52:53] Speaker 9: I'm just totally perplexed with what the hell of Centizen strategy.
[52:56] Speaker 6: Was brolin in today's America and in yesterday's America. Quite frankly,
[53:05] Speaker 6: black boys don't get to be black boys. Black people
[53:08] Speaker 6: in this country don't get to defend themselves, even if
[53:10] Speaker 6: the law says that if you are attacked, if there
[53:13] Speaker 6: is an aggressive towards you, you have the right to
[53:15] Speaker 6: defend yourself, including up to bodily harm against someone else,
[53:19] Speaker 6: if that's what they're doing towards you. In this country,
[53:21] Speaker 6: what we're seeing not just from this administration, This is
[53:24] Speaker 6: even beyond the orange occupant in the White House. This
[53:28] Speaker 6: is about how this country is set up. This country
[53:31] Speaker 6: is rotten in terms of his systems. When we talk
[53:34] Speaker 6: about there is systemic racism in this country, this is
[53:38] Speaker 6: what we mean like Roland, I am convinced that you
[53:40] Speaker 6: could have had ten character witnesses this young for this
[53:44] Speaker 6: young person, and he still would have been convicted. They
[53:47] Speaker 6: still would have found him guilty. They still would have
[53:50] Speaker 6: tried to figure out what's the maximum number of times.
[53:53] Speaker 6: I think they were looking at up to ninety nine
[53:55] Speaker 6: years in terms of his sentencing. So while yes, I
[53:58] Speaker 6: hear what you're saying, and yes, I believe that there
[54:00] Speaker 6: should have been a more robust defense going through not
[54:04] Speaker 6: just the trial itself, but through the sentencing phase as well,
[54:08] Speaker 6: I also understand that we're fighting and gets a system here,
[54:11] Speaker 6: and I think that's something important to remember.
[54:14] Speaker 7: Like I saw on.
[54:15] Speaker 6: Social media, some people were saying, well, this is the
[54:17] Speaker 6: reason why black people need a volunteer and show up.
[54:20] Speaker 7: To be active on juries.
[54:22] Speaker 6: But I also saw black people in the comments say, oh, well,
[54:24] Speaker 6: he should have walked away. We know in this country,
[54:27] Speaker 6: if you walk away, you could be killed. We know
[54:29] Speaker 6: this country, if you stand your ground and you ultimately
[54:34] Speaker 6: and you ultimately save your own life, that you will
[54:37] Speaker 6: be charged, that you will be sentenced, that you will
[54:39] Speaker 6: be sentenced for thirty five years in this country. Right now,
[54:42] Speaker 6: we see that it's a no win situation for black
[54:45] Speaker 6: people in this country, which is the reason why we
[54:47] Speaker 6: have to do something about these system issues.
[54:52] Speaker 9: Oh look, I agree with all of that, and even
[54:55] Speaker 9: if it's accomplict, dammit, I'm going to call it more
[54:58] Speaker 9: than one person in sentencing where I want to try
[55:00] Speaker 9: to get that thing as low as I possibly can,
[55:03] Speaker 9: and I'm sorry one person his mother simply wasn't enough.
[55:06] Speaker 2: Do you have a video, Mike, This is Mike Howard.
[55:08] Speaker 9: Mike Howard was Carmelo Anthony's attorney, and there was a
[55:13] Speaker 9: video where he was interviewed on social media where he
[55:15] Speaker 9: talked about, uh, not being aggressive a certain way, how
[55:19] Speaker 9: you should operate and act in a courtroom, sort of
[55:22] Speaker 9: the approach that he take. Granted the judge pad the
[55:25] Speaker 9: judge had a gag order going here as well, and
[55:29] Speaker 9: which prevented him from a course talking to the media
[55:31] Speaker 9: and stufflong those lines. But still, I just I just
[55:34] Speaker 9: simply did not quite understand the very limited situation here.
[55:41] Speaker 9: And yes, you're absolutely right, Carmelo Anthony, certain things can happen,
[55:47] Speaker 9: certain things. Well, guy's played the video, then certain things
[55:50] Speaker 9: can happen if he if he testifies. But he was
[55:55] Speaker 9: being tried for murder. And guess what, When your client's
[55:59] Speaker 9: life is on the line and he's seventeen years old,
[56:02] Speaker 9: that means that right now he gets thirty five years,
[56:04] Speaker 9: he's got to serve seventeen of those before he's elder
[56:07] Speaker 9: for parole. That means that Carmelo Anthony is gonna spend
[56:10] Speaker 9: the next seven He's gonna spend as long as in
[56:13] Speaker 9: prison as he's lived on this earth.
[56:16] Speaker 1: Uh.
[56:16] Speaker 2: And so to me, you do everything you can, and
[56:19] Speaker 2: I just.
[56:19] Speaker 9: Don't think Mike Howard did enough, especially in the citizen phase,
[56:22] Speaker 9: to protect his client.
[56:24] Speaker 2: Quick break, we come back.
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[58:39] Speaker 9: Black Maternal health is a huge issue, and of course,
[58:42] Speaker 9: uh being the folks are concerned about that. In Georgia,
[58:45] Speaker 9: they tried to pass a law to licensed midwives.
[58:48] Speaker 2: It failed, but our next guest actually fouled suit.
[58:53] Speaker 9: Uh anyway, let's talk to Jamari Amani, the lead playing
[58:55] Speaker 9: the being the case, and her attorney, Hillary Schneller, both
[58:58] Speaker 9: join us right now.
[58:59] Speaker 2: Glad to have both of you here. So the law
[59:03] Speaker 2: in Georgia it failed, correct?
[59:08] Speaker 4: Correct?
[59:11] Speaker 9: Okay, So but you're suing What the purpose of the
[59:15] Speaker 9: lawsuit If the law failed, who are you suing?
[59:18] Speaker 7: And why?
[59:21] Speaker 16: So the lawsuit was filed because we have been fighting
[59:25] Speaker 16: for years to get the law passed. That would license midwives,
[59:31] Speaker 16: and because we haven't been able to secure the licensure
[59:34] Speaker 16: of midwives for many decades now, Georgia has been restricting
[59:39] Speaker 16: midwives from being able to practice in our communities. The
[59:43] Speaker 16: decision was made by myself into midwife colleagues to file
[59:47] Speaker 16: a suit against the state of Georgia to force the
[59:50] Speaker 16: conversation and to hold the sane accountable for denying access
[59:55] Speaker 16: to care for so many families in Georgia for so
[59:57] Speaker 16: many years.
[1:00:00] Speaker 9: So Hillary from a legal perspective, again, so the base
[1:00:06] Speaker 9: of a suit is that because the legislature is not
[1:00:11] Speaker 9: providing licensing pathway for midwives, that's endangering mothers.
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: Is that what you're is that what you're laying out, Well.
[1:00:20] Speaker 17: It's a couple of things. So for decades Georgia has
[1:00:24] Speaker 17: treated midwives like criminals, which is further endangering the lives
[1:00:29] Speaker 17: of pregnant people across the state. As hospitals are closing,
[1:00:33] Speaker 17: labor and delivery units are closing, there are provider shortages.
[1:00:37] Speaker 17: You know, women's lives, in particular Black women's lives are
[1:00:41] Speaker 17: at stake. Lawmakers had a chance to fix that by
[1:00:46] Speaker 17: licensing midwives and no longer treating them like criminals. That
[1:00:50] Speaker 17: bill failed to pass, so we went to court saying
[1:00:53] Speaker 17: that violates the Georgia Constitution on a number of grounds
[1:00:57] Speaker 17: and the court needs to essentially decriminalize the practice of
[1:01:02] Speaker 17: midwiffree in Georgia.
[1:01:06] Speaker 2: Okay, So, so in terms of this suit founded in
[1:01:12] Speaker 2: state court, betteral court.
[1:01:15] Speaker 12: It's filed in state court.
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: And how many, bit wise are we talking about in
[1:01:21] Speaker 2: the state of Georgia.
[1:01:24] Speaker 17: Well, honestly, it's a little hard to tell. There are
[1:01:27] Speaker 17: some midwives, nurse midwives who have been allowed to practice,
[1:01:31] Speaker 17: although they need to practice sort of with a permission
[1:01:35] Speaker 17: slip from a physician, which is totally unnecessary and incredibly
[1:01:41] Speaker 17: expensive to get to pay a physician to sort of
[1:01:44] Speaker 17: oversee the nurse midwives practice. There are about five six
[1:01:50] Speaker 17: hundred nurse midwives in Georgia. There would be more, but
[1:01:54] Speaker 17: for this law that has driven out some nurse midwives,
[1:01:58] Speaker 17: including one of our clients who lead he gives her
[1:02:00] Speaker 17: home state of Georgia to practice in Tennessee. There are
[1:02:04] Speaker 17: other midwives like Jamara who can't practice at all, and
[1:02:09] Speaker 17: so it's a little hard to know how many there
[1:02:13] Speaker 17: could be but for these restrictive laws.
[1:02:19] Speaker 2: Questions from the panel.
[1:02:20] Speaker 13: Robot you first, thank you so much and thanks for
[1:02:23] Speaker 13: everything that you're working on. Can you talk a little
[1:02:26] Speaker 13: bit about being from Georgia. We've been dealing with this
[1:02:30] Speaker 13: for a long time. Can you talk a little bit
[1:02:31] Speaker 13: about the genesis of this attack on midwives and how
[1:02:36] Speaker 13: it affects specifically black community, particularly given the levels of
[1:02:39] Speaker 13: informortality we have.
[1:02:43] Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a really great question.
[1:02:44] Speaker 16: There's a long history of discrimination against midwives, but if
[1:02:48] Speaker 16: we go back to the beginning of time, midwives is
[1:02:52] Speaker 16: actually the oldest profession.
[1:02:53] Speaker 4: Midwife means with women.
[1:02:55] Speaker 16: Midwives care for communities and families and have played an
[1:02:59] Speaker 16: important role. Really black midwives birthed America. It's estimated that
[1:03:04] Speaker 16: up to seventy five percent of people in the South
[1:03:07] Speaker 16: in the eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds were delivered by
[1:03:11] Speaker 16: black midwives specifically, and black midwives were really the primary
[1:03:16] Speaker 16: health care providers for pregnancy for over one hundred and
[1:03:20] Speaker 16: fifty years in this country. And so it's actually really
[1:03:24] Speaker 16: a disrespect to midwives that the profession has been sidelined
[1:03:28] Speaker 16: in this way. But it started with the American Medical
[1:03:32] Speaker 16: Association in eighteen fifty seven coming out to discredit black
[1:03:36] Speaker 16: midwives and to encourage people to birth with physicians and
[1:03:43] Speaker 16: really executing this dirty fingernails campaign which led to restrictions
[1:03:50] Speaker 16: where midwives were required to have a nursing degree in
[1:03:53] Speaker 16: order to practice. And not that there's anything wrong with
[1:03:57] Speaker 16: having a nursing degree to practice midwif free, but it
[1:04:00] Speaker 16: does leave a lot of midwives out that are already
[1:04:02] Speaker 16: serving their communities.
[1:04:04] Speaker 4: And so what it led to really is the.
[1:04:06] Speaker 16: Decimation of the profession, where between the nineteen twenties and
[1:04:11] Speaker 16: nineteen seventies we went from thousands of midwives serving their
[1:04:15] Speaker 16: communities to in some states only dozens, and those restrictions
[1:04:19] Speaker 16: are still in place today at a time when many
[1:04:22] Speaker 16: counties don't even have a physician provider, they don't have
[1:04:25] Speaker 16: enough obi providers. The midwives of Georgia are ready and
[1:04:29] Speaker 16: willing to serve and there's no reason that this capable, trained,
[1:04:35] Speaker 16: expert workforce should not be allowed to serve their communities
[1:04:38] Speaker 16: in the most accessible ways possible. And for myself, I
[1:04:43] Speaker 16: started my midwife training in Georgia as an apprentice and
[1:04:48] Speaker 16: realized that I wasn't able to really have a legal
[1:04:51] Speaker 16: pathway to becoming a midwife, and I moved to Florida
[1:04:55] Speaker 16: and became a Florida licensed midwife. I would love to
[1:04:59] Speaker 16: be able to be licensed in both states and provide
[1:05:02] Speaker 16: services to communities in Georgia, but at the current time,
[1:05:06] Speaker 16: you know, these restrictions do not allow me to.
[1:05:08] Speaker 7: Do that, Rebecca, So the mixture of them.
[1:05:16] Speaker 6: Understanding, black women are having negative experiences going the quote
[1:05:22] Speaker 6: unquote traditional world in terms of mortality rates around giving birth,
[1:05:29] Speaker 6: but then we see that there is centuries and since
[1:05:32] Speaker 6: the dawn of time success through midwives. So what do
[1:05:36] Speaker 6: you think is the real policy reason why the state
[1:05:39] Speaker 6: of Georgia is looking to decrease healthy access and healthy
[1:05:44] Speaker 6: options for black women to successfully give birth.
[1:05:51] Speaker 16: Yeah, we know that the maternal and infant mortality rates
[1:05:56] Speaker 16: that we often hear about where black people are three
[1:06:01] Speaker 16: to four times likely to lose their lives in childbirth
[1:06:05] Speaker 16: or shortly thereafter, we know that those are actually preventable deaths, right.
[1:06:11] Speaker 16: We estimate the CDC estimates that eighty to ninety percent
[1:06:15] Speaker 16: of maternal deaths are preventable. And so that really makes
[1:06:19] Speaker 16: these you know, human rights violations, because if we know
[1:06:23] Speaker 16: how to prevent a death and we're not doing it,
[1:06:27] Speaker 16: then you know, we're not doing everything that we can
[1:06:29] Speaker 16: and we're really violating people's rights as a country. And
[1:06:32] Speaker 16: when we look around the world, you know, the United
[1:06:34] Speaker 16: States has some of the most abysmal outcomes when it
[1:06:38] Speaker 16: comes to birthing, and the countries that have the best
[1:06:42] Speaker 16: outcomes have a midwife led workforce. So we cannot get around.
[1:06:49] Speaker 18: That.
[1:06:49] Speaker 16: MIDWA free care has to be part of a robust
[1:06:52] Speaker 16: solution for how to address this manufactured maternal health crisis.
[1:07:02] Speaker 7: The call.
[1:07:05] Speaker 14: Thank y'all both for fighting this fight for the women
[1:07:08] Speaker 14: of Georgia. I'm curious to know if y'all are receiving
[1:07:11] Speaker 14: public support from politicians and people all on ground in Georgia.
[1:07:15] Speaker 14: I know that when there are vast outcries that can
[1:07:17] Speaker 14: sometimes impact a court case.
[1:07:19] Speaker 12: So what is the support like for this in Georgia. Well,
[1:07:26] Speaker 12: I can start.
[1:07:27] Speaker 17: I think we have seen a real demand from families
[1:07:32] Speaker 17: that they want midwi free care and are saying that
[1:07:35] Speaker 17: loudly to their legislators, and so part of filing the
[1:07:40] Speaker 17: lawsuit is to draw attention to that, to put facts
[1:07:44] Speaker 17: before a court where the court has to listen and
[1:07:47] Speaker 17: make a determination, and hopefully we'll be a wake up
[1:07:50] Speaker 17: call for legislators who can fix this, and it is
[1:07:55] Speaker 17: a choice not to fix it, and we hope that
[1:07:59] Speaker 17: they make a different choice.
[1:08:04] Speaker 2: A long fight of this, I'm sorry, go ahead, and.
[1:08:11] Speaker 16: There's there's been a long fight of this. Even when
[1:08:14] Speaker 16: I gave birth to my child in Georgia, and I
[1:08:19] Speaker 16: you know, I had an experience that was negative, where
[1:08:23] Speaker 16: a white nurse was telling me how to give birth
[1:08:25] Speaker 16: in what position instead of allowing me to use the
[1:08:28] Speaker 16: wisdom of my body to birth upright, like people have
[1:08:32] Speaker 16: since the beginning of time.
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: You know, I joined a fight.
[1:08:35] Speaker 16: I joined a movement that was already happening. We were
[1:08:38] Speaker 16: going to the state capital, we were talking to legislators,
[1:08:42] Speaker 16: we were organizing the community, and hundreds of people were
[1:08:45] Speaker 16: showing up at the capitol demanding access to midway free care.
[1:08:49] Speaker 12: And that was in the early two thousands.
[1:08:50] Speaker 16: So I've been in this fight, you know, for a
[1:08:52] Speaker 16: long time, even when I was a resident of Georgia.
[1:08:56] Speaker 16: So I'm just adding that the community really this and
[1:09:01] Speaker 16: has been organizing for decades. So it's time for the
[1:09:04] Speaker 16: Seat of Georgia to listen to the citizens of Georgia.
[1:09:09] Speaker 2: All right, Ben, We're surely appreciate y'all being on today's show.
[1:09:12] Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, Thank you so much for having us.
[1:09:17] Speaker 9: All Right, folks, we come back. We're going to talk
[1:09:19] Speaker 9: about drama on the Capitol Hill. Donald Trump that says, hey,
[1:09:23] Speaker 9: I love inflation and his innier secretary gets jammed up
[1:09:27] Speaker 9: about that, as well as the stealing of Iranian oil. Yeah,
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[1:11:23] Speaker 9: Let's talk about the Department of Justice and EEOC. They
[1:11:28] Speaker 9: are accused of the EEO C y'all of violating federal
[1:11:32] Speaker 9: civil rights laws when it gave guidance telling employees employers
[1:11:36] Speaker 9: across the country to consider disparate impact and hiring and
[1:11:40] Speaker 9: promotions of Trump's DOJ alleges that by considering disparate impact.
[1:11:45] Speaker 9: The EEOC essentially pressure employees to make race based consideration
[1:11:49] Speaker 9: that would otherwise be illegal. Now what's crazy is that
[1:11:52] Speaker 9: the DJ is literally trying to suggest that the Louisiana
[1:11:57] Speaker 9: verse Kalay decision impact acts impacts EOC.
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: Or go to Robert, Robert, I don't understand. This makes
[1:12:05] Speaker 2: no sense.
[1:12:06] Speaker 9: This is just like them applying the affirmative action ruling
[1:12:11] Speaker 9: in college admissions everything else.
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: Okay, just because they just the Supreme Court may rule on.
[1:12:18] Speaker 9: A case like you can't use racing in college admissions,
[1:12:22] Speaker 9: it doesn't mean that that case somehow applies to a
[1:12:26] Speaker 9: plethora of other things.
[1:12:28] Speaker 13: Well, it does, Roland. And the reason being is about
[1:12:31] Speaker 13: the review standard that the Supreme Court uses in these
[1:12:34] Speaker 13: types of constitutional questions. So, and it's really there's an
[1:12:39] Speaker 13: open question as to whether or not the standards of
[1:12:41] Speaker 13: scrutiny rubric still exist within the Roberts Court. There will
[1:12:46] Speaker 13: more likely have to be another judicial challenge to determine
[1:12:49] Speaker 13: what exactly the outlay of the law is because currently
[1:12:51] Speaker 13: the circuits are in chaos. But essentially the Supreme Court,
[1:12:55] Speaker 13: in their ruling is saying, using the affirmative action case
[1:12:58] Speaker 13: for an example, that there is no compelling government interest
[1:13:02] Speaker 13: in diversity, and that doesn't just apply to education, that
[1:13:06] Speaker 13: can apply to employment, that can apply to essentially any field.
[1:13:10] Speaker 13: What this Roberts Court has an attempted to do is
[1:13:12] Speaker 13: essentially level the entirety of the playing field by and
[1:13:16] Speaker 13: thereby locking in the pre existing white privilege that has
[1:13:21] Speaker 13: always been there. What they've done is across the board,
[1:13:24] Speaker 13: raising the earth to make it, to make it so
[1:13:27] Speaker 13: that if you put any policy in place, they will
[1:13:29] Speaker 13: create a racial preference, They have a financial cetisize, they
[1:13:32] Speaker 13: will have emission standards, anything along those lines. They have
[1:13:35] Speaker 13: taken a hammer and sickle approach to destroying that across
[1:13:38] Speaker 13: the board. And now what was going to have to happen.
[1:13:41] Speaker 13: What I want to hear more Democrats talking about being
[1:13:43] Speaker 13: proactively going forward is how exactly they create the type
[1:13:47] Speaker 13: of legislative agenda, legislative authority to put in place laws
[1:13:51] Speaker 13: that will comply with the Supreme Court decisions but also
[1:13:54] Speaker 13: execute the actual initial attempt of the drafters of those laws.
[1:13:58] Speaker 13: So they're taking this across the This is exactly what
[1:14:01] Speaker 13: Project twenty twenty five was attempting to do. You get
[1:14:04] Speaker 13: a couple of decisions broadly, and then you can apply
[1:14:08] Speaker 13: that to every single field, and by the time you
[1:14:10] Speaker 13: litigate each and every single one of those things, the
[1:14:13] Speaker 13: entirety of the of the political affatus has collapsed around it.
[1:14:16] Speaker 13: This is why we this next election, both in twenty
[1:14:18] Speaker 13: six and twenty eight has to be about what the
[1:14:20] Speaker 13: democratic legislative agenda is going to be to repeal everything
[1:14:23] Speaker 13: done by Project twenty twenty five and repeal everything done
[1:14:26] Speaker 13: by the Supreme Court.
[1:14:29] Speaker 9: Well, the problem here is, in order to appeal Rebecca,
[1:14:32] Speaker 9: you got to have the House, you got to have
[1:14:33] Speaker 9: the Senate, you got to have the White House. And
[1:14:35] Speaker 9: then of course the Supreme Court could still say, oh,
[1:14:38] Speaker 9: the law that you pass unconstitutional. The issue that I
[1:14:41] Speaker 9: see here is again this broad application. I remember the
[1:14:45] Speaker 9: college admissions story you had. You literally had Senta Tom
[1:14:50] Speaker 9: Cotton telling law firms, oh, you now have to change
[1:14:52] Speaker 9: your internship and apprentice programs because of the college admissions decision,
[1:14:57] Speaker 9: when it had nothing to do with their program.
[1:15:00] Speaker 2: But this is again how they want to apply this broadly.
[1:15:06] Speaker 7: Roland. So here's the thing.
[1:15:08] Speaker 6: I know you're framing it as the GOP's attack against
[1:15:11] Speaker 6: Black America, but I actually want to broaden out that
[1:15:14] Speaker 6: frame just a bit. This is also partly the Democratic
[1:15:18] Speaker 6: Party as well. When we think in terms of how
[1:15:20] Speaker 6: this country has been set up over the last two
[1:15:22] Speaker 6: hundred and fifty years, it hasn't just been one party
[1:15:25] Speaker 6: that has attacked or has operated in an anti blackness
[1:15:29] Speaker 6: in this country. And so something that I think that
[1:15:31] Speaker 6: is important to talk about is as we think about
[1:15:34] Speaker 6: what does this next chapter of this country looks like?
[1:15:38] Speaker 6: It's a shame that Project twenty twenty five has been
[1:15:44] Speaker 6: and is able to undo all of the civil rights laws.
[1:15:47] Speaker 6: But we have to figure out as a country, how
[1:15:49] Speaker 6: do we make these things actually permanent? Where in another
[1:15:52] Speaker 6: one hundred years, if we're able to get these civil
[1:15:55] Speaker 6: rights protections back, how do we make it permanent?
[1:15:58] Speaker 12: Because what we're seeing is the civil rights fix that
[1:16:01] Speaker 12: we had in the.
[1:16:02] Speaker 6: Sixties, and what we thought was the fix, and it
[1:16:04] Speaker 6: might have been the fix at the time, it wasn't permanent.
[1:16:07] Speaker 6: So what do we do in the next chapter, in
[1:16:08] Speaker 6: the next iteration of this country to make sure that
[1:16:11] Speaker 6: there's a permanency in how people are treated in this country?
[1:16:16] Speaker 2: Well, what they did there, Nicole was believing that.
[1:16:20] Speaker 9: The courts had already made decisions, just like not realizing
[1:16:25] Speaker 9: that when you get a hard right wing court go
[1:16:27] Speaker 9: up in all that same way they did with Roe v.
[1:16:29] Speaker 2: Wade.
[1:16:29] Speaker 9: And that's what we're seeing right here. This extreme court
[1:16:32] Speaker 9: led by John Roberts, is about completely dismadling And I've
[1:16:36] Speaker 9: been saying why I call this the defunding of Black America.
[1:16:39] Speaker 9: They want to completely destroy and eradicate the entire civil
[1:16:43] Speaker 9: and economic rights infrastructure that we have seen over the
[1:16:46] Speaker 9: last sixty plus years.
[1:16:49] Speaker 14: Yeah, and d O Jags basically made it legal to
[1:16:52] Speaker 14: discriminate in the workplace. They said, as long as you
[1:16:55] Speaker 14: can hide your racism and discrimination behind tests and certain language.
[1:17:00] Speaker 12: And it's good to go.
[1:17:01] Speaker 14: And the ironic thing here is that this does not
[1:17:04] Speaker 14: only impact black people, even though the right wants to
[1:17:07] Speaker 14: convince their base that it does. This will also impact
[1:17:10] Speaker 14: white women who are struggling to get jobs in places
[1:17:13] Speaker 14: where white men dominate. This will impact people with disabilities,
[1:17:17] Speaker 14: older people. This is not just an attack on Black America,
[1:17:21] Speaker 14: even though they're framing it that way. This is going
[1:17:23] Speaker 14: to hurt every single person in an underrepresented community. But
[1:17:27] Speaker 14: yet these racist white women and these older people and
[1:17:30] Speaker 14: anybody else in these communities are counting this as a
[1:17:34] Speaker 14: win because they think this is going to stop black
[1:17:36] Speaker 14: people from joining them in the workplace. But that's not
[1:17:39] Speaker 14: even the only impact of this decision.
[1:17:45] Speaker 9: There's GOP war on Black America. That's what this is,
[1:17:49] Speaker 9: and so is what's happening in Tennessee. The NAACP, they're
[1:17:53] Speaker 9: fighting back there. They filed a preliminary injunction to block
[1:17:56] Speaker 9: Tennessee's new congressional map, which was drawn on a proved
[1:18:01] Speaker 9: by a Republican supermajority. Let's talk about with emotion. Six
[1:18:06] Speaker 9: to do, Anthony ashen is the NAACP's the Social General Council.
[1:18:10] Speaker 9: You joined us right now, Anthony, walk us through what
[1:18:13] Speaker 9: exactly are y'all trying to achieve with this.
[1:18:17] Speaker 20: We're basically we're trying to We followed a motion to
[1:18:21] Speaker 20: try to stop the maps that were passed.
[1:18:23] Speaker 4: For those who don't know, the.
[1:18:27] Speaker 20: Court went through or not the court, but the legislature
[1:18:30] Speaker 20: during the course of about forty eight hours past the
[1:18:33] Speaker 20: map that split Shelby County in Memphis, which is the
[1:18:38] Speaker 20: largest black city in the country. It split it into
[1:18:41] Speaker 20: three parts, making sure that each part.
[1:18:43] Speaker 4: Was connected to a rural area.
[1:18:48] Speaker 20: Sometimes hundreds of miles away to make sure that the
[1:18:50] Speaker 20: black folks who lived in Shelby County and who lived
[1:18:53] Speaker 20: in Memphis weren't able to elect candidates that they wanted,
[1:18:57] Speaker 20: that they were essentially their vote was diluted, and in fact,
[1:19:00] Speaker 20: that they would not be able to elect candidates they wanted,
[1:19:05] Speaker 20: in particular regard to the US Congress.
[1:19:12] Speaker 9: So we earlier saw Congressman Steve Cohen, state resident Justin
[1:19:18] Speaker 9: Pearson would draw their challenge, and so therefore.
[1:19:23] Speaker 2: Was that clearing the way for your action.
[1:19:28] Speaker 20: No, we were all had these lawsuits pending at the
[1:19:31] Speaker 20: same time. They were proceeding under a different theory. Theirs
[1:19:36] Speaker 20: was under a First Amendment theory. We're suing based upon
[1:19:39] Speaker 20: violation of the fourteenth and fifteenth Amendment related to equal
[1:19:43] Speaker 20: protection and the right to vote.
[1:19:48] Speaker 2: And this is just Tennessee.
[1:19:50] Speaker 9: We obviously haven't seen actions take place in Alabama, Louisiana,
[1:19:55] Speaker 9: and we was about to go down in Mississippi, and
[1:19:58] Speaker 9: so are y'all also looking at other challenges in those
[1:20:01] Speaker 9: states and obviously just what took place in Florida.
[1:20:03] Speaker 2: We're just waiting to see what the Supreme Court there says.
[1:20:07] Speaker 20: Right, we filed an amaicus brief in Florida with regard
[1:20:12] Speaker 20: to what was going on there. We filed the action
[1:20:15] Speaker 20: in Alabama. We've been fighting that for years. We were
[1:20:20] Speaker 20: surprised and disappointed that after years of the court saying
[1:20:24] Speaker 20: this is racial, this is discrimination, that essentially Alabama was
[1:20:30] Speaker 20: able to just keep submitting.
[1:20:33] Speaker 2: Racist maps until the court said, okay, well let you
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: use them anyway.
[1:20:37] Speaker 20: But we're looking to fight in various other states, including
[1:20:41] Speaker 20: the fact that we're looking at what's going to happen
[1:20:43] Speaker 20: in Georgia next week because they're about to undergo redistricting
[1:20:46] Speaker 20: as well.
[1:20:51] Speaker 7: Well.
[1:20:51] Speaker 9: Again, what I keep saying is they are attacking anything
[1:20:55] Speaker 9: you heard of the story we're just talking about, and
[1:20:57] Speaker 9: this is literally an assault on the entire civil rights infrastructure.
[1:21:03] Speaker 9: That is what they're going after. They are attacking every
[1:21:06] Speaker 9: aspect of it. We're talking college, we're talking economics, we're
[1:21:10] Speaker 9: talking civil rights, We're talking jobs, we're talking grants, we're
[1:21:13] Speaker 9: talking healthcare, we're talking all of it.
[1:21:18] Speaker 20: Yeah, I think that when you hear people talk nostalgically
[1:21:21] Speaker 20: about the civil rights movement, this is the civil rights movement.
[1:21:25] Speaker 13: We are in the civil rights movement right now.
[1:21:27] Speaker 20: There are people who if they had their way, would
[1:21:30] Speaker 20: drag us back to the nineteen fifties and nineteen forties,
[1:21:33] Speaker 20: perhaps when they were younger children, and they thought that
[1:21:36] Speaker 20: the world and that the country was better because black people,
[1:21:39] Speaker 20: because people of color, because women didn't have as many rights.
[1:21:43] Speaker 20: And for some reason, I think the expression is that
[1:21:48] Speaker 20: when you have experienced privilege for so long, even a
[1:21:53] Speaker 20: quality seems like it's oppression to you. And I think
[1:21:56] Speaker 20: that's what we're seeing, is we're seeing a temper tantrum
[1:21:59] Speaker 20: from the other side on this those who want things
[1:22:03] Speaker 20: to go back to the way they were when black
[1:22:05] Speaker 20: and brown folks and women knew to knew their place
[1:22:08] Speaker 20: and new to keep their mouth shut and let those
[1:22:11] Speaker 20: who wanted to be in charge be in charge of us.
[1:22:18] Speaker 2: Absolutely well, good luck with the lawsuit.
[1:22:20] Speaker 9: And I keep telling people we've got to have folks
[1:22:22] Speaker 9: or who who are fully engaged in this fight, and
[1:22:26] Speaker 9: that's what's absolutely needed.
[1:22:28] Speaker 4: All right, and thank you.
[1:22:29] Speaker 20: And I just want to say this one thing, This
[1:22:31] Speaker 20: is why it's so important to vote. Remember the shape
[1:22:34] Speaker 20: of the Supreme Court right now is because of what
[1:22:38] Speaker 20: happened with one election. You cannot sit on the sidelines.
[1:22:42] Speaker 20: You cannot say I'll sit out this election. You have
[1:22:46] Speaker 20: to vote each and every time if you want to
[1:22:48] Speaker 20: keep the freedom that we fought so hard to get
[1:22:50] Speaker 20: over the last fifty or sixty years.
[1:22:54] Speaker 9: All right, then we'll surely appreciate it. Thanks a lot,
[1:22:58] Speaker 9: Thank you, folks. This fight continues. The Department of Justice
[1:23:03] Speaker 9: going after the City College of New York. And again
[1:23:08] Speaker 9: just just want you to understand what these people are doing.
[1:23:11] Speaker 9: They're attacking their blackmail initiative. Now, there have been numerous
[1:23:15] Speaker 9: programs like this all across the country. I remember speaking
[1:23:18] Speaker 9: at one an acron The brother who was an actor,
[1:23:20] Speaker 9: went to Clemson. They had a program there for it
[1:23:22] Speaker 9: was for a black man who became men of color. Well,
[1:23:25] Speaker 9: they wiped that program out because of the uh, the
[1:23:29] Speaker 9: Trump attacks on DEI.
[1:23:32] Speaker 2: Now, so now they're going after this cunity program.
[1:23:37] Speaker 6: Uh.
[1:23:37] Speaker 9: This is that shameful, despicable head of the Civil Rights
[1:23:41] Speaker 9: Division under Donald Trump speaking on Fox News about this program.
[1:23:45] Speaker 2: Listen, what Kuoni is doing is.
[1:23:54] Speaker 21: It is directing funds and resources towards recruitment in admissions
[1:24:01] Speaker 21: and then also financial resources and financial aid disproportionately favoring
[1:24:07] Speaker 21: African American men and students in general, and This is
[1:24:12] Speaker 21: illegal under students for fair admissions. Our universities are not
[1:24:15] Speaker 21: allowed to do this and not allowed to favor people
[1:24:19] Speaker 21: on the basis of race. It's pretty simple. And every
[1:24:22] Speaker 21: time a university, and they're over six thousand of them
[1:24:24] Speaker 21: that get federal funding, gets money from the federal government,
[1:24:27] Speaker 21: they're certifying that they're in compliance with our federal laws.
[1:24:30] Speaker 21: And this is called Title six, and so under Title
[1:24:33] Speaker 21: six they could lose funds that they have obtained under
[1:24:37] Speaker 21: false pretenses. And so this is what's at risk for
[1:24:41] Speaker 21: Cooney and other schools that are doing this type of
[1:24:42] Speaker 21: a program.
[1:24:45] Speaker 2: This is what's pathetic here, Nicole.
[1:24:47] Speaker 9: I mean, universities are trying to say, hey, can we
[1:24:51] Speaker 9: please serve our community interests? Can we diversify our student body?
[1:24:56] Speaker 9: Can we try to recruit people Trump's doj Trump's administration
[1:25:01] Speaker 9: is saying, oh damn that what they really want. They
[1:25:04] Speaker 9: want white institutions, They want white colleges and universities.
[1:25:09] Speaker 14: And if we're supposed to be one of the greatest
[1:25:11] Speaker 14: countries on earth, like Americans and Republicans always say, wouldn't
[1:25:15] Speaker 14: we want an educated population, wouldn't we want black men
[1:25:19] Speaker 14: to be educated into stayed schools and get their degrees
[1:25:21] Speaker 14: and get good jobs.
[1:25:23] Speaker 4: But no, they don't want that.
[1:25:24] Speaker 14: They want black and brown people unable to attend universities
[1:25:28] Speaker 14: and receive higher education. And like you said earlier, this
[1:25:31] Speaker 14: is not the first attack that we've seen on black
[1:25:33] Speaker 14: people going to colleges. We've seen DJ send letters and
[1:25:37] Speaker 14: announcements about investigating medical schools for admitting too many black
[1:25:42] Speaker 14: and brown students all across the country. This is just
[1:25:45] Speaker 14: going to keep on happening. But we have to keep
[1:25:47] Speaker 14: resisting this and keep fighting. And it's so disappointing that
[1:25:51] Speaker 14: they're using the Civil Rights Act to do this, the
[1:25:53] Speaker 14: same act that is supposed to uplift black people.
[1:25:56] Speaker 2: But they don't care.
[1:25:57] Speaker 12: They don't want us educated, they want us back and chain.
[1:26:02] Speaker 9: Rebecca corn Acuney's website, The initiative mission is to quote
[1:26:06] Speaker 9: increase and encourage and support the inclusion and education success
[1:26:10] Speaker 9: of students from groups that are severely underrepresented in higher education,
[1:26:16] Speaker 9: particularly African, African, American, Black, Caribbean, and Latino Hispanic males.
[1:26:21] Speaker 2: So what I'll say, I'll say to all of.
[1:26:23] Speaker 9: Those immigrants who support Donald Trump, Hello, y'all getting screwed too.
[1:26:29] Speaker 9: So you're voting against your own interest. That's what this
[1:26:32] Speaker 9: is all about.
[1:26:35] Speaker 6: Well, look, when you come into this country as an
[1:26:37] Speaker 6: immigrant and you're taught to assimilate, you're taught to get
[1:26:41] Speaker 6: as close an in proximity.
[1:26:42] Speaker 12: To whiteness as you possibly can. But in order to
[1:26:45] Speaker 12: understand what whiteness is, first you got to learn.
[1:26:47] Speaker 6: How to be anti black. That's period what's happening in
[1:26:51] Speaker 6: this country. But even the language that you read on
[1:26:53] Speaker 6: that website Girland, it says it's to be inclusive, to
[1:26:57] Speaker 6: make sure that education that that is institutions providing also
[1:27:01] Speaker 6: include these people too. It doesn't say that everyone else
[1:27:05] Speaker 6: is excluded and it's only going to be focused on
[1:27:07] Speaker 6: these particular people.
[1:27:08] Speaker 7: This is what I'll tell a lot of folks.
[1:27:10] Speaker 6: Now, if I had a child who was getting ready
[1:27:13] Speaker 6: to go to college, my child is going to an HBCU.
[1:27:16] Speaker 12: Like, forget this. Like what we're hearing is that there
[1:27:20] Speaker 12: are some institutions that are too.
[1:27:22] Speaker 6: Afraid to stand up for their diverse students aka their
[1:27:25] Speaker 6: black students and some of their other students of color.
[1:27:28] Speaker 6: So don't go where you're simply tolerated. Go where you're
[1:27:31] Speaker 6: celebrating and where you're appreciated. Send your child to HBCU.
[1:27:37] Speaker 1: Robert.
[1:27:39] Speaker 13: Look, Roland, I think we have to come to a
[1:27:41] Speaker 13: kind of a stark reality of where we're at in America.
[1:27:44] Speaker 13: Black folks have been on this land mass for around
[1:27:47] Speaker 13: four hundred years. We've been the majority of that in
[1:27:50] Speaker 13: subjugation to the white majority class. That's the reality. We've
[1:27:54] Speaker 13: spent the last fifty to sixty years trying to get
[1:27:57] Speaker 13: along and trying to make things work out together, trying
[1:28:00] Speaker 13: to do something contrast to the majority of the human history.
[1:28:03] Speaker 13: You know, when Spartacles were bailed against the Romans, he
[1:28:05] Speaker 13: didn't stay around and then integrate into the institutions. Normally,
[1:28:10] Speaker 13: when you have the decommonization struggle. Reading France f now
[1:28:13] Speaker 13: this weekend, there's this concept of the cleansing nature of revolution.
[1:28:18] Speaker 13: We tried something different. As African Americans. We're the first group,
[1:28:22] Speaker 13: perhaps in human history, who ended bondage and then tried
[1:28:27] Speaker 13: to simply peacefully integrate into that society. There's no bloody
[1:28:32] Speaker 13: race war that took place, there was no ethnic retribution,
[1:28:35] Speaker 13: there's no burning villages and beheading of white people, et cetera.
[1:28:40] Speaker 13: We tried to peacefully integrate and it is clear now
[1:28:43] Speaker 13: that with this extreme Maga Republican Project twenty twenty five,
[1:28:47] Speaker 13: that they don't want that to ever take place. They
[1:28:51] Speaker 13: don't want us to even get the crumbs. They don't
[1:28:53] Speaker 13: want us to have the scraps. They don't want us
[1:28:55] Speaker 13: to even be allowed in the building to smell the
[1:28:59] Speaker 13: scraps that are being aid. When it comes to the
[1:29:02] Speaker 13: power in this country, their finals being here, my mentor
[1:29:05] Speaker 13: Janis Mansions will always say that racism has never been
[1:29:08] Speaker 13: about proximity. They were fine to have a black woman
[1:29:11] Speaker 13: warm up the bed during slavery. It was about power,
[1:29:14] Speaker 13: the power dynamic and who will control those things. And
[1:29:16] Speaker 13: as we saw when African Americans went through the Obama Renaissance,
[1:29:19] Speaker 13: the Obama Golden Age, and it will started being CEOs, presidents, lawyers, doctors,
[1:29:24] Speaker 13: running institutions. The white lash that we're experiencing right now
[1:29:27] Speaker 13: is even more severe than the white lash we saw
[1:29:30] Speaker 13: by Bard Goldwater's results of the civil rights movement. We
[1:29:33] Speaker 13: are going to have to focus inward on our institutions.
[1:29:36] Speaker 13: As Rebecca said, there's no longer this question of fighting
[1:29:39] Speaker 13: to see who can actually send at the table people
[1:29:41] Speaker 13: who clearly do not want us to be there. It's
[1:29:43] Speaker 13: about ensuring that we build a table strong enough and
[1:29:46] Speaker 13: stable enough to lift the weight of our entire community.
[1:29:50] Speaker 13: That can't just be the educational table that we're working
[1:29:53] Speaker 13: on when it comes to sending more of our students
[1:29:55] Speaker 13: to HBCUs. That has to be the business table. That
[1:29:57] Speaker 13: has to be the econom I'm at a table that
[1:30:00] Speaker 13: has to be the health table. These folks don't like us.
[1:30:05] Speaker 13: They do not want us here. They want to take
[1:30:07] Speaker 13: away every bit of power. If you are going to
[1:30:10] Speaker 13: be here, it need to be in service to them.
[1:30:12] Speaker 13: If you are in a disagreement with that rubric, it's
[1:30:15] Speaker 13: time to start building on your own because we've seen
[1:30:18] Speaker 13: after four hundred years, they are not changing.
[1:30:23] Speaker 2: All right, gotta go to break we come back.
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[1:33:27] Speaker 22: The federal judge declares a North Carolina man is unfit
[1:33:31] Speaker 22: to stand trial. The Carlos Brown Junior is facing charges
[1:33:35] Speaker 22: for killing Ukrainian refugee Iano'sarcusta on the North Carolina commuter
[1:33:40] Speaker 22: train called the Charlotte's Blue Line light rail. Brown was
[1:33:44] Speaker 22: captured on video from August repeatedly stabbing the woman. Brown's
[1:33:48] Speaker 22: defense attorneys requested a delay in his trial due to
[1:33:51] Speaker 22: his untreated mental illness. On Tuesday, the judge rules that
[1:33:54] Speaker 22: Brown is incompetent and must undergo medical treatment. Doctors later
[1:34:00] Speaker 22: determined that Brown is competent, the charges could proceed, but
[1:34:03] Speaker 22: until then the case must be dismissed by statute, but
[1:34:07] Speaker 22: it can be reinstated if this competency is restored. And
[1:34:11] Speaker 22: police are investigating the discovery of a burning cross in
[1:34:14] Speaker 22: Chicago's historic Grant Park. This symbol was one of the
[1:34:18] Speaker 22: oldest representations of racist hatred in America. Videos shared on
[1:34:22] Speaker 22: social media show the burning cross leaning against a tree. Fortunately,
[1:34:27] Speaker 22: there was minimal damage and firefighters were able to extinguish
[1:34:30] Speaker 22: the flames quickly. In response to this sentident, the Faith
[1:34:33] Speaker 22: Community of Saint Sabina, a local church, is offering a
[1:34:36] Speaker 22: ten thousand dollars reward for information leading to an arrest.
[1:34:40] Speaker 22: And A dangerous moment unfolds in Camden, Arkansas, when a
[1:34:44] Speaker 22: four month old is thrown from an SUV after their
[1:34:47] Speaker 22: dad's vehicle flips during the police chase. Authorities say the
[1:34:51] Speaker 22: father is a convicted felon and is now facing multiple charges.
[1:34:55] Speaker 22: Arkansas State Police say a trooper was trying to pull
[1:34:57] Speaker 22: over twenty eight year old Tyrese Fletcher or traffic stop violation,
[1:35:01] Speaker 22: but he did not stop, and then he drove more
[1:35:03] Speaker 22: than one hundred miles per hour to get away. Police
[1:35:06] Speaker 22: dash camera video shows the moment that Fletcher loses control
[1:35:10] Speaker 22: of the car, hitting a light pole and flipping multiple
[1:35:12] Speaker 22: times before coming to a stop. Police took the baby
[1:35:16] Speaker 22: and three other children to the hospital for minor injuries.
[1:35:19] Speaker 22: Investigators say the kids are all under the age of
[1:35:21] Speaker 22: six and were unrestrained. Now, Fletcher is facing charges for felony, fleeing,
[1:35:26] Speaker 22: reckless driving, no driver's license, possession of a weapon, and
[1:35:30] Speaker 22: four counts of endangering the welfare of a minor. Police
[1:35:35] Speaker 22: in Talladega, Alabama, are searching for answers after the shooting
[1:35:38] Speaker 22: death of an eighteen year old recent high school graduate
[1:35:41] Speaker 22: on May thirty first. Authorities say they found Jaikavian Right,
[1:35:45] Speaker 22: suffering from a single gunshot wound to the head. It
[1:35:48] Speaker 22: happened around two twenty four am and the six hundred
[1:35:50] Speaker 22: block of McAlpine Street, just two weeks after Wright graduated
[1:35:54] Speaker 22: from Talladega High School.
[1:35:56] Speaker 7: School leaders say he was a.
[1:35:57] Speaker 22: Standout student athlete who played on the schools basketball team
[1:36:01] Speaker 22: and that plans to attend Gatsen State Community College this fall.
[1:36:05] Speaker 22: Investigators are working with crime scene technicians from Jacksonville State
[1:36:08] Speaker 22: University Center were Applied Forensics to process the crime scene evidence.
[1:36:13] Speaker 22: If you know anything about what happened to Jackavian Wright,
[1:36:17] Speaker 22: please contact crime Stoppers at two one five stop. You
[1:36:21] Speaker 22: could earn a one thousand dollars reward for information that
[1:36:24] Speaker 22: leads to an arrest. White South Africans have become the
[1:36:29] Speaker 22: fastest growing refugee group to enter the United States. New
[1:36:33] Speaker 22: data from the State Department's Bureau of Population shows that
[1:36:37] Speaker 22: all refugees accepted into the country were all africaners. A
[1:36:41] Speaker 22: white South African ethnic group. Last year, the Trump administration
[1:36:45] Speaker 22: promoted claims about the white genocide in South Africa, and
[1:36:48] Speaker 22: since then, over five thousand white South Africans or granted
[1:36:52] Speaker 22: protected status and access into the United States over any
[1:36:56] Speaker 22: other refugee group. However, human rights groups and researchers disagree
[1:37:00] Speaker 22: with the administration's claims, saying there is no evidence of
[1:37:03] Speaker 22: a genocide targeting white South Africans. Despite critics, Trump continues
[1:37:08] Speaker 22: to make exceptions for white South Africans, closing the doors
[1:37:11] Speaker 22: to other refugee groups seeking asylum.
[1:37:17] Speaker 9: I'm Brittany Double every day New Eastern right here on
[1:37:21] Speaker 9: the Blackstar Network. Again the break Down with Brittain Nobble
[1:37:23] Speaker 9: every Day New Eastern on the Black Star Network. Donald
[1:37:27] Speaker 9: con Trump, he always slammed President Joe Biden when it
[1:37:29] Speaker 9: came to the issue of inflation. He promised that he
[1:37:32] Speaker 9: was going to eradicate inflation. Well it's actually gone up.
[1:37:36] Speaker 9: He addressed this today when they asked at the White House,
[1:37:39] Speaker 9: listen to this food.
[1:37:42] Speaker 10: You, sir, mister President, about the latest inflation number which
[1:37:45] Speaker 10: came out this morning.
[1:37:46] Speaker 4: Could that be a headwind the numbers? You know what
[1:37:50] Speaker 4: I really love, I love the inflation.
[1:37:52] Speaker 18: You know what, because as soon as this was over,
[1:37:55] Speaker 18: you know, I can say it now. Something he didn't know.
[1:37:58] Speaker 1: Do you know?
[1:37:58] Speaker 18: We've been taking out millions of barrels of oil. Nobody
[1:38:03] Speaker 18: knows it. You know who doesn't know about it? Iran
[1:38:06] Speaker 18: until right now. We took out the other night, twenty
[1:38:11] Speaker 18: two ships late at night with no lights because they
[1:38:14] Speaker 18: don't have any radar, because we blasted the crap out
[1:38:16] Speaker 18: of it. We took out. That's why oil's eighty five
[1:38:19] Speaker 18: dollars a barrel.
[1:38:20] Speaker 4: I mean, you take a look.
[1:38:22] Speaker 18: Remember when I did this, I said, look, the one
[1:38:25] Speaker 18: bad thing will be we hit the best economy we've
[1:38:29] Speaker 18: ever hit. And I said to my people at Scott
[1:38:32] Speaker 18: had Howard, I had Pete, I hit All, I had
[1:38:35] Speaker 18: Todd in the room. I said, the one thing we
[1:38:38] Speaker 18: have to do now. We had just hit the highest
[1:38:41] Speaker 18: stock market in history, highest four oh one case in history.
[1:38:46] Speaker 18: Everything was going well, and I said, I hate to
[1:38:48] Speaker 18: do this to you guys, but a Ram's gonna have
[1:38:50] Speaker 18: a nuclear weapon very soon. We have to go and attack.
[1:38:53] Speaker 18: So we hit it with the B two bombs, which
[1:38:57] Speaker 18: it took a lot of courage. It was totally successful.
[1:39:00] Speaker 18: We buried it very hard to gain. But now we
[1:39:04] Speaker 18: had to make the second move.
[1:39:06] Speaker 9: And I said, all right, he just run his mouth there.
[1:39:10] Speaker 9: He's trying to justify how awful the economy is. On
[1:39:15] Speaker 9: Capitol Hill, his injury secretary was testifying, and congress Woman A.
[1:39:19] Speaker 9: Milion Sits of Ohio. She was unrelenting in demanding answers
[1:39:24] Speaker 9: from him on this issue.
[1:39:27] Speaker 23: Thank you to the witness for being here. I will
[1:39:30] Speaker 23: say your expertise is energy, and I would hope that
[1:39:34] Speaker 23: you would not invoke the words of doctor Martin Luther
[1:39:37] Speaker 23: King without adequate contexts, because quite frankly, that is not
[1:39:41] Speaker 23: your expertise. But since you want to talk about people
[1:39:45] Speaker 23: unqualified in meritocracies, let's talk about President Trump.
[1:39:48] Speaker 2: Do you feel like your.
[1:39:50] Speaker 23: Positions and policy statements are in line with President Trump?
[1:39:56] Speaker 4: Yes?
[1:39:56] Speaker 2: I hope so. Do you love inflation?
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: Uh?
[1:40:04] Speaker 10: I love ending Iran's ability to have a nuclear weapon.
[1:40:08] Speaker 2: I think that was not my question.
[1:40:10] Speaker 23: Do you love inflation?
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: Yes or no?
[1:40:13] Speaker 10: I love ending Iran's.
[1:40:15] Speaker 23: That is not my question.
[1:40:17] Speaker 2: Inflation yes or no?
[1:40:18] Speaker 1: No?
[1:40:18] Speaker 10: I would prefer lower inflation.
[1:40:19] Speaker 23: You would prefer low inflation. Do you know that your boss,
[1:40:24] Speaker 23: essentially President Trump just stated that he loved inflation.
[1:40:29] Speaker 10: He's an entertaining, hyperbolic guy who's done tremendous leadership, and
[1:40:34] Speaker 10: unbalanced is driving it.
[1:40:36] Speaker 23: We're unaware that the President Trump just mentioned that he
[1:40:39] Speaker 23: loved uninflation. And I certainly don't want to get you
[1:40:41] Speaker 23: in trouble with your boss, but it sounds like you
[1:40:44] Speaker 23: don't love inflation, but he does. But let me ask
[1:40:46] Speaker 23: you this other question. Are you aware that the United
[1:40:48] Speaker 23: States was taking millions of barrels of gasoline? Uh from
[1:40:53] Speaker 23: Iran in the straight ohrmuth.
[1:40:57] Speaker 10: We are preventing the flow of Iranian oil through the street.
[1:41:01] Speaker 23: That is not the question that I just asked you.
[1:41:02] Speaker 23: Were you aware that the United States has been taking
[1:41:05] Speaker 23: millions of gallons of oil from the strait of horn Moves.
[1:41:11] Speaker 10: I'm just not sure taking is the right word. We're
[1:41:13] Speaker 10: preventing the flow of it.
[1:41:14] Speaker 23: Well, thank you, mister cheriff. I make can I play
[1:41:16] Speaker 23: some audio from some comments that President Trump made in
[1:41:19] Speaker 23: the Oval Office?
[1:41:23] Speaker 2: Okay, numbers. I don't think I love the inflation.
[1:41:28] Speaker 18: You know why because as soon as this war is over,
[1:41:31] Speaker 18: you know, I can say it now something you didn't
[1:41:35] Speaker 18: you know, we've been taking out let's spend let's nobody
[1:41:40] Speaker 18: knows that you know who doesn't know about it?
[1:41:42] Speaker 4: Iran until right now.
[1:41:45] Speaker 23: A mister Secretary, it seems like you didn't know about
[1:41:47] Speaker 23: this either, So why would the United States be taking
[1:41:50] Speaker 23: out millions of barrels of oil from Iran?
[1:41:53] Speaker 10: Well, it's essential that we prevent oil sales from generating
[1:41:57] Speaker 10: revenue for Iran to spend to develop NUCA weapons in Opressst.
[1:42:01] Speaker 23: Secretary, I understand this might be an uncomfortable line of
[1:42:03] Speaker 23: questioning and you don't want to do it, but you
[1:42:05] Speaker 23: are not answering my question. So I'm going to ask
[1:42:07] Speaker 23: you again, and I'm going to hope that you will
[1:42:10] Speaker 23: answer it honestly. Did you know that the United States
[1:42:12] Speaker 23: was taking millions of gallons of oil from Iran?
[1:42:17] Speaker 10: I'm gonna weare So do.
[1:42:19] Speaker 23: You think that the president is lying? Based on the
[1:42:21] Speaker 23: audio that you just heard? And I will send it
[1:42:22] Speaker 23: to you in case you say you didn't hear it.
[1:42:25] Speaker 10: Oh, no, I do not think the president's lying. I
[1:42:27] Speaker 10: think the president's talking casually about our efforts to stop
[1:42:31] Speaker 10: the flow over warsual do.
[1:42:33] Speaker 23: You think that it is appropriate to talk casually about war?
[1:42:38] Speaker 10: I think you talk to all different audiences. And you
[1:42:40] Speaker 10: talk in all different styles. But I don't have any
[1:42:43] Speaker 10: serious objection to what he's said.
[1:42:45] Speaker 23: You don't have any serious objection for someone talking about
[1:42:47] Speaker 23: war casually. Do you have that objection? There are thirteen
[1:42:51] Speaker 23: service people who are dead, there are hundreds more that
[1:42:54] Speaker 23: are injured, but we should be talking about war casually.
[1:42:58] Speaker 10: He treats this war deadly. He's serious, and he has
[1:43:01] Speaker 10: worked tirelessly on this war.
[1:43:03] Speaker 23: Secretary, you just said that he was a He was
[1:43:05] Speaker 23: speaking casually about this.
[1:43:08] Speaker 20: It is.
[1:43:11] Speaker 10: Different styles for different audiences.
[1:43:12] Speaker 23: He is the president of the United States of America.
[1:43:15] Speaker 23: He is the commander of chief who is responsible for
[1:43:17] Speaker 23: thirteen service members who have died in hundreds more who
[1:43:20] Speaker 23: are injured. So you mean to say to me testifying
[1:43:23] Speaker 23: in front of this committee in the United States House
[1:43:25] Speaker 23: of Representatives, that it is appropriate for the commander of
[1:43:28] Speaker 23: chief to talk about war casually.
[1:43:31] Speaker 10: He speaks candidly, openly, and honestly. I think all of
[1:43:34] Speaker 10: America benefits from that.
[1:43:36] Speaker 13: Well.
[1:43:36] Speaker 23: I appreciate your attempt to protect your boss and to
[1:43:41] Speaker 23: keep your job, but let me be very clear with you,
[1:43:44] Speaker 23: it is not appropriate to talk about war casually. He
[1:43:48] Speaker 23: is clearly keeping you in the dark about what he
[1:43:52] Speaker 23: is doing in Iran, and now you are sitting here
[1:43:54] Speaker 23: in this committee unaware that the President just made an
[1:43:57] Speaker 23: announcement about millions of bare roles that they have taken
[1:44:01] Speaker 23: from Iran and stated in that very very clearly people
[1:44:04] Speaker 23: don't know, but now we get to know it. But
[1:44:06] Speaker 23: unfortunately he sent you here and you didn't know it,
[1:44:08] Speaker 23: which is your response to that.
[1:44:12] Speaker 10: I'm very proud to serve with President Trump. He's been
[1:44:14] Speaker 10: tremendous leadership in a time of great stress right now,
[1:44:17] Speaker 10: and proud of what he's doing, Proud to be part
[1:44:18] Speaker 10: of the team.
[1:44:19] Speaker 23: Well, I would not be proud if my boss sent
[1:44:21] Speaker 23: me up Shit's creek and left me here in a
[1:44:25] Speaker 23: committee without adequate information and speaking casually about war. That
[1:44:29] Speaker 23: is a horrible place to be. And I'm so sorry
[1:44:31] Speaker 23: that you have to do at Alarman's times turd And also.
[1:44:38] Speaker 9: Well, Rebecca, that's how you are supposed to question a
[1:44:43] Speaker 9: cabinet member, to expose their sheer stupidity.
[1:44:51] Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, and then even playing the recording of what
[1:44:56] Speaker 6: the resident was saying in terms that we're stealing and
[1:45:00] Speaker 6: we're taking through the cover of darkness, millions and millions
[1:45:04] Speaker 6: of barrels of oil.
[1:45:06] Speaker 12: Because the entire time I was thinking, Yep, how are.
[1:45:08] Speaker 7: You getting it out? How are you getting in out
[1:45:10] Speaker 7: of the region.
[1:45:11] Speaker 12: Like, there isn't a train that you can put the
[1:45:13] Speaker 12: shipment on.
[1:45:14] Speaker 6: There isn't a pipeline an oil pipe that you could
[1:45:18] Speaker 6: transfer it to.
[1:45:19] Speaker 2: So what to have to go on?
[1:45:21] Speaker 12: These ships through the straight heart moods which is currently
[1:45:23] Speaker 12: shut down.
[1:45:24] Speaker 7: Look, this man is delusional. And here's the thing.
[1:45:30] Speaker 6: The fact that you have the Republican Party that's standing
[1:45:33] Speaker 6: by him, the fact that you have these cabinet members
[1:45:36] Speaker 6: that are standing by him. They have to understand at
[1:45:39] Speaker 6: some point this Trump disaster is going to end. So
[1:45:42] Speaker 6: what's next for them after they've spent all this time
[1:45:45] Speaker 6: wasting their time looking foolish. I'm trying to defend indefensible
[1:45:50] Speaker 6: actions by this administration.
[1:45:55] Speaker 13: Robert, Well, okay, that's not how oil works. Just going
[1:46:03] Speaker 13: I got stuck at the Trump point about what I
[1:46:05] Speaker 13: saw this earlier and even re listening to it. You
[1:46:09] Speaker 13: don't just take oil and keep it and then just say, well,
[1:46:14] Speaker 13: the gas is going to go down after the war
[1:46:17] Speaker 13: is over one. This war is not ending at all,
[1:46:23] Speaker 13: not any anytime soon. There's no exit strategy. There's no
[1:46:27] Speaker 13: plausible solution, no plausial cevil circumstances where this ends anytime soon.
[1:46:32] Speaker 7: One.
[1:46:33] Speaker 13: Iran has full controller of the straight Socohar moves and
[1:46:35] Speaker 13: can escalate anytime they feel like it. Secondarily through the
[1:46:39] Speaker 13: Hoothies they have controller bob Elman dopp Straight. They did
[1:46:42] Speaker 13: it be prior to Operation rough Rider back in twenty
[1:46:44] Speaker 13: twenty five and into twenty twenty four three. They have
[1:46:47] Speaker 13: the ability to launch ballistic missiles and drones to hit
[1:46:49] Speaker 13: the Sewers Canal, to shut down all shipping throughout the
[1:46:51] Speaker 13: Red Sea. Four They've already sent missiles to hit the
[1:46:55] Speaker 13: to hit the US base and Diego Garcia. So even
[1:47:00] Speaker 13: if you send shipping routes from Europe all the way
[1:47:02] Speaker 13: around the Southern Horn of Africa into the Indian Ocean,
[1:47:05] Speaker 13: using Chinese and Russian satellite imagery, they can hit vessels
[1:47:10] Speaker 13: even in the middle of the ocean. So they can
[1:47:12] Speaker 13: shut down all global shipping anytime they feel like it,
[1:47:15] Speaker 13: and that's why Trump cannot get out of this hole
[1:47:18] Speaker 13: that he's currently in. Then you put in the second factor,
[1:47:21] Speaker 13: which is the war does not end until Israel says
[1:47:24] Speaker 13: the war ends. Iran has made it clear that unless
[1:47:27] Speaker 13: Hesbela is included in any peace deal, any seats fire
[1:47:30] Speaker 13: and there's an end of hostilities with Israel. As the
[1:47:33] Speaker 13: foreign ministers told me a few days ago, if we
[1:47:35] Speaker 13: make a peace deal with the US in the morning,
[1:47:38] Speaker 13: Israel will bomb us at night. There's no point in
[1:47:41] Speaker 13: a deal that does not involve Israel. So when Trump
[1:47:44] Speaker 13: says we've been essentially stealing entire tankers full of oil,
[1:47:48] Speaker 13: the markets are based on speculation, not the actual amount
[1:47:51] Speaker 13: of oil that is in the ground. At the beginning
[1:47:53] Speaker 13: of the war, in February, we saw every major strategic
[1:47:56] Speaker 13: oil reserve in the world released the largest amount of
[1:47:59] Speaker 13: oil into the system ever in human history to prevent
[1:48:02] Speaker 13: the price shot from the largest disruption energy supply chains,
[1:48:06] Speaker 13: perhaps in the Industrial Revolution. So, no, this does not
[1:48:09] Speaker 13: clear up immediately after the war is over. No, you
[1:48:12] Speaker 13: cannot just simply steal oil and I guess you're gonna
[1:48:14] Speaker 13: drive it to Florida and pump it at the shell station.
[1:48:17] Speaker 13: Everybody can come pick it up. This is based on
[1:48:20] Speaker 13: speculation markets going forward, and without a clear answer, we
[1:48:23] Speaker 13: are still going to see six dollars gas by the
[1:48:25] Speaker 13: end of summer ten dollars by the end of the year,
[1:48:28] Speaker 13: and no amount of lying and bs is going to
[1:48:30] Speaker 13: get him out of that. And for the Energy Secretary,
[1:48:35] Speaker 13: he should resign immediately. You cannot produe your job if
[1:48:40] Speaker 13: the president is making policy, just sitting behind the Oval Office,
[1:48:43] Speaker 13: just shooting the shit. That is not how energy policy works.
[1:48:47] Speaker 13: So this entire thing is a catastrophe on every single level,
[1:48:52] Speaker 13: and Trump knows there's no way out of it.
[1:48:56] Speaker 9: It's hilarious, Nicole to see these foods try to spend.
[1:49:00] Speaker 9: How pathetic this his gone? And Rob was right, the
[1:49:04] Speaker 9: war's not over. Literally, it's not over.
[1:49:10] Speaker 14: No, And the Energy Secretary was shaken in his boots
[1:49:12] Speaker 14: because he didn't want to end up like other cabinet
[1:49:15] Speaker 14: members who had to bite the dust after they messed
[1:49:17] Speaker 14: up in a hearing in front of Congress. But look,
[1:49:19] Speaker 14: he knows that President and Trump wasn't being honest in
[1:49:22] Speaker 14: that Oval Office. And he also knows that Trump was
[1:49:25] Speaker 14: trying to spend this because of the terrible job that
[1:49:27] Speaker 14: he is doing with the economy.
[1:49:29] Speaker 7: I mean for him to sit in.
[1:49:30] Speaker 14: The Oval Office in front of reporters, in front of
[1:49:33] Speaker 14: the whole country and say that he loves inflation when
[1:49:37] Speaker 14: we're struggling to pay for gas and prescription drugs and groceries.
[1:49:41] Speaker 14: It almost feels like he's trying to tank the Republican
[1:49:44] Speaker 14: Party in November. If he keeps blundering like this, there
[1:49:48] Speaker 14: is no way that his supporters are going to be
[1:49:50] Speaker 14: happy to vote for Republican members of Congress in November,
[1:49:54] Speaker 14: especially when he was relentlessly going after the Biden in
[1:49:58] Speaker 14: Harris administration when the economy wasn't doing so great under
[1:50:02] Speaker 14: them either. And even if prices do drop a little
[1:50:06] Speaker 14: bit after this war is supposedly coming to an end,
[1:50:09] Speaker 14: that is not going to do enough because people have
[1:50:12] Speaker 14: already been coming out of pocket to pay for these
[1:50:14] Speaker 14: expensive medical bills and pay for grocery prices and everything else.
[1:50:18] Speaker 14: So his claims about this inflation being something that he
[1:50:22] Speaker 14: created and that he wanted him that he loves, nobody
[1:50:24] Speaker 14: should believe this. This is all a blunder and he's
[1:50:27] Speaker 14: trying to clean up the mess that he made, but
[1:50:28] Speaker 14: he's not even doing a good job at that.
[1:50:32] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:50:33] Speaker 9: All right, y'all, let's talk about this story out of
[1:50:35] Speaker 9: Kansas City, all right. It's a feel good story where
[1:50:40] Speaker 9: for these two young boys, Perez and Jockey Reese selling lemonade. Okay,
[1:50:48] Speaker 9: kids do this all around the country, and some idiot
[1:50:51] Speaker 9: calls nine one.
[1:50:52] Speaker 2: One, so a KCTV, a local station. Now I did
[1:50:57] Speaker 2: the story of this.
[1:50:58] Speaker 9: I want you to take the story out, but I
[1:51:00] Speaker 9: got something to say after we show this, go ahead
[1:51:02] Speaker 9: and play it.
[1:51:03] Speaker 6: Two young brothers in Kansas City, Kansas just wanted to
[1:51:05] Speaker 6: sell lemonade this summer.
[1:51:07] Speaker 10: What happened when police were called to their stand is
[1:51:10] Speaker 10: a story you.
[1:51:10] Speaker 2: Were going to want to see.
[1:51:12] Speaker 14: CACTV five.
[1:51:13] Speaker 2: Zach Fisher has more.
[1:51:14] Speaker 5: Ducai and pres Reese have been selling lemonade here on
[1:51:18] Speaker 5: thirty third and Webster for years, but this week, when
[1:51:21] Speaker 5: life gave them lemons, Kansas City's finest made sure they
[1:51:24] Speaker 5: sold every cup. It all started with a nine to
[1:51:27] Speaker 5: one one call one police haven't heard before someone notifying
[1:51:30] Speaker 5: them about two boys selling lemonade on the corner. But
[1:51:33] Speaker 5: when Kansas City, Kansas police and firefighters arrived, they didn't
[1:51:36] Speaker 5: shut the stand down. They became its best customers. Officer
[1:51:39] Speaker 5: Morgan Reid was among the first to pull up during
[1:51:41] Speaker 5: the afternoon shift.
[1:51:42] Speaker 12: I was calling everybody.
[1:51:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just calling everybody.
[1:51:45] Speaker 22: Hey, make sure you guys stop by the lemonade stand
[1:51:48] Speaker 22: and then just whenever they were busy, a couple people
[1:51:50] Speaker 22: were able to swing by.
[1:51:51] Speaker 5: Those calls worked. When all is said and done, the
[1:51:54] Speaker 5: boys sold more lemonade and kool Ate fruit to dozens
[1:51:57] Speaker 5: and dozens of officers in about thirty minutes.
[1:52:00] Speaker 2: Eight great and I think that was blue Raspberry.
[1:52:04] Speaker 5: It totaled two hundred and eighty dollars. But for Perez
[1:52:07] Speaker 5: and Jakai, it wasn't about the money.
[1:52:09] Speaker 10: It was like some stickers.
[1:52:11] Speaker 6: They gave us a lot of things and I used
[1:52:14] Speaker 6: it on my shirt and then they was like, now
[1:52:16] Speaker 6: you're a official police officer.
[1:52:18] Speaker 5: Officer Red liked it so much she came back Thursday
[1:52:21] Speaker 5: spending another chunk of change. She says, moments like this
[1:52:24] Speaker 5: are exactly what community policing is supposed to look like.
[1:52:27] Speaker 5: And for Perez, the motivation behind the stand goes beyond
[1:52:30] Speaker 5: the bad stickers.
[1:52:31] Speaker 16: I just wanted to help the homess and buy me
[1:52:35] Speaker 16: any eba because that has been my juic since I
[1:52:37] Speaker 16: was little.
[1:52:38] Speaker 2: Use the money for my nephew and niece.
[1:52:40] Speaker 14: Inside, I was going to use the money to buy
[1:52:43] Speaker 14: them diapers and stuff.
[1:52:44] Speaker 5: Not a bad squeeze for a couple of kids just
[1:52:46] Speaker 5: trying to make a difference. Boys, tell me they're gonna
[1:52:48] Speaker 5: be out here all summer selling lemonade. Officer Reese says
[1:52:51] Speaker 5: that she had to come back and after tasting lemonade
[1:52:54] Speaker 5: myself honestly can't labor kid City Kanza, Jack Fisher, Casett,
[1:52:58] Speaker 5: five dudes.
[1:53:01] Speaker 9: Okay, that's absolutely fantastic. First other officers, right, that's what
[1:53:05] Speaker 9: communion policing is all about. So I appreciate seeing those
[1:53:08] Speaker 9: police officers and the firefighters do that. But here's the
[1:53:11] Speaker 9: question I have, who is the asshole who called nine
[1:53:14] Speaker 9: one one? See, this is why we we said we
[1:53:18] Speaker 9: call it crazy as white people, and it's really crazy
[1:53:21] Speaker 9: ass racists white people, And this is.
[1:53:23] Speaker 2: The crap that black people have to deal with.
[1:53:25] Speaker 9: White kids all across America have lemonade stands all over
[1:53:31] Speaker 9: the place, and so this idiot, listen, the cops should
[1:53:37] Speaker 9: have said, give us the address of the punk ass
[1:53:42] Speaker 9: who called we can go pay them a visit. And see, again,
[1:53:48] Speaker 9: I appreciate the officers and the firefighters. The problem is,
[1:53:53] Speaker 9: we know how this could go when it comes to
[1:53:56] Speaker 9: black kids in this country. And this is the problem
[1:54:00] Speaker 9: when you have racist people who make phone calls because
[1:54:04] Speaker 9: I tell you, wasn't nobody black calling on these kids, Okay,
[1:54:09] Speaker 9: And so this is the problem that we have in
[1:54:11] Speaker 9: this country. We're black people, my god, we can't even
[1:54:15] Speaker 9: fucking sell lemonade on the side, which white kids do
[1:54:19] Speaker 9: all the time, without somebody calling the cops for a
[1:54:23] Speaker 9: lemonade stand.
[1:54:25] Speaker 2: This is the crap that absolutely pisses me off.
[1:54:28] Speaker 13: Robert, look, Roland, And this is the point that I
[1:54:33] Speaker 13: think people will overlook because, as you said, the result
[1:54:37] Speaker 13: went great, The result was wonderful. But what if there
[1:54:41] Speaker 13: were different cops that showed up. What if instead of
[1:54:44] Speaker 13: having these wonderful, community minded police show up every time
[1:54:48] Speaker 13: there's one of these police shootings, we always say, well,
[1:54:50] Speaker 13: there's this one bad apple. That doesn't mean that all
[1:54:53] Speaker 13: cops are bad. And I agree with that completely. Great
[1:54:56] Speaker 13: police officers have great police officers my family. They're not
[1:54:58] Speaker 13: all bad, of course not. But what if this was
[1:55:01] Speaker 13: one of the bad ones. What safeguards did we put
[1:55:04] Speaker 13: in place to ensure that these young boys weren't approached
[1:55:07] Speaker 13: by the bad police officers, the ones that used who
[1:55:10] Speaker 13: saw age overestimation. Instead of seeing little boys selling lemonade,
[1:55:14] Speaker 13: they saw grown thugs that they wanted to make an
[1:55:17] Speaker 13: example out of. Let's just say that they would have
[1:55:19] Speaker 13: escalated this to the point or either there was an arrest,
[1:55:22] Speaker 13: or there was violence that took place, or god knows
[1:55:24] Speaker 13: what else. We have to stop. Instead of just trying
[1:55:27] Speaker 13: to retrain our own people, we have to retrain the
[1:55:30] Speaker 13: society to stop seeing this otherization of African Americans doing
[1:55:35] Speaker 13: the exact same things that are standard for American society.
[1:55:38] Speaker 13: We have to stop stop having a society that seems
[1:55:42] Speaker 13: white nationalism, that seems white supremacy as being fundamental to
[1:55:45] Speaker 13: what it means to be an American. And we have
[1:55:47] Speaker 13: to come to terms with the fact that that we
[1:55:50] Speaker 13: need to see each other as simply being human beings
[1:55:54] Speaker 13: with equal rights. That there's a certain portion of this
[1:55:56] Speaker 13: nation that will never be able to accept that.
[1:56:02] Speaker 9: You know, Rebecca, I really try my best not to
[1:56:06] Speaker 9: sit here and look at some people. LEOMN just go
[1:56:09] Speaker 9: ahead and call out Sean one Ryan two three four nine,
[1:56:15] Speaker 9: This dumb ass putting our chat. You don't know who
[1:56:18] Speaker 9: called the cops rolling, and you have to bring race
[1:56:20] Speaker 9: into it, you dumb ass. Sean, didn't nobody black call Rebecca?
[1:56:25] Speaker 2: We all know that. I mean, come on, this ain't
[1:56:28] Speaker 2: our first rodeo.
[1:56:29] Speaker 9: Black folks barbecuing, white folks call the cops, black folks
[1:56:33] Speaker 9: delivering packages, white folks call the cops, black folks just
[1:56:37] Speaker 9: walking down the street, white folks call the cops.
[1:56:42] Speaker 6: Well, Sewan's gonna really hate what I'm about to say now, Like, look,
[1:56:46] Speaker 6: it breaks my heart that these young boys are selling
[1:56:49] Speaker 6: lemonade in part to take care of everyday supplies, in
[1:56:53] Speaker 6: order to body diapers for the small children in the house.
[1:56:59] Speaker 12: Like that part's hard breaking.
[1:57:00] Speaker 6: And one thing that we do know is that the
[1:57:02] Speaker 6: unemployment rate in this country is double for black folks
[1:57:06] Speaker 6: than it is for the rest of the country. So
[1:57:09] Speaker 6: we know that black families are hurting and aren't able
[1:57:12] Speaker 6: to make basic ends neat meat, which is why you
[1:57:15] Speaker 6: see an increase in the calls for mutual aid, especially
[1:57:19] Speaker 6: in black communities, because after all, we're all that we
[1:57:21] Speaker 6: got the other issue that I have. It's like I'm
[1:57:24] Speaker 6: thinking about the eighties, Roland. I know you said this
[1:57:26] Speaker 6: is a feel good story, but when we saw the
[1:57:28] Speaker 6: rise of pal of police athletic leagues, we would see
[1:57:33] Speaker 6: like in one summer, you will see police officers playing
[1:57:36] Speaker 6: football on the streets with young black men, sorry, young
[1:57:39] Speaker 6: young black boys actually, and then the next summer.
[1:57:42] Speaker 12: They were hunting them in the streets like dogs and.
[1:57:46] Speaker 6: Heavily prosecuting young black boys in this country. So I'm
[1:57:50] Speaker 6: still leary at the interaction of police officers with young
[1:57:54] Speaker 6: black children. I'm extremely leery of it because one thing
[1:57:57] Speaker 6: that we do know is that the rise of in
[1:58:01] Speaker 6: this country is directly tied to the end of slavery,
[1:58:05] Speaker 6: and that it went from slave catchers and to the
[1:58:07] Speaker 6: next thing.
[1:58:07] Speaker 12: You know, it's now police officers and policing.
[1:58:11] Speaker 7: And you know, your viewers might.
[1:58:13] Speaker 6: Understand, like over the years, how I talked about, Hey,
[1:58:16] Speaker 6: we need more than police reform because what we're happy
[1:58:18] Speaker 6: now doesn't work.
[1:58:19] Speaker 12: So yes, I know this is a field that story
[1:58:21] Speaker 12: and shine you're and hate what I'm saying.
[1:58:23] Speaker 6: It is always about race in this country. You know why,
[1:58:26] Speaker 6: because this country was founded based upon race.
[1:58:32] Speaker 9: Jay just pisses me off the cold, just two black
[1:58:35] Speaker 9: kids just trying to sell some down lemonade.
[1:58:37] Speaker 2: Some asshole calls nine one to one.
[1:58:41] Speaker 14: And what kills me about this is entrepreneurship and self
[1:58:44] Speaker 14: determination are supposed to be the foundations of America and capitalism,
[1:58:49] Speaker 14: but not when black people are participating in it. Not
[1:58:51] Speaker 14: when two young black boys are out here doing something positive,
[1:58:55] Speaker 14: raising money for themselves and for their families.
[1:58:57] Speaker 12: And at this point, I mean, we have to just hey,
[1:59:00] Speaker 12: what it is. Being black is a crime in America.
[1:59:03] Speaker 14: Like you said earlier, Roland, walking down the street, somebody's
[1:59:06] Speaker 14: calling the police on you. Bird watching, somebody's calling the
[1:59:08] Speaker 14: police on you. When I used to work on political campaigns,
[1:59:11] Speaker 14: knocking doors, people calling the police, I'm trying to be
[1:59:13] Speaker 14: a good citizen. And I'm sure all of us on
[1:59:15] Speaker 14: this panel today and those of us those of you
[1:59:18] Speaker 14: watching at home, have a story about being an innocent
[1:59:21] Speaker 14: black person just out in the world. Somebody's calling the
[1:59:25] Speaker 14: police on you. White people really need to start wrestling
[1:59:28] Speaker 14: with the fact that they are essentially afraid of black
[1:59:30] Speaker 14: people and they see us having joy, making money or
[1:59:34] Speaker 14: just being children, and they see that as an assault
[1:59:37] Speaker 14: on their personhood. Why these young black boys weren't doing
[1:59:41] Speaker 14: anything wrong. They were supporting their community, doing exactly what
[1:59:43] Speaker 14: they should have been doing. But being black is a
[1:59:46] Speaker 14: crime in America, and we see that time and time again.
[1:59:52] Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just crazy. So again, great to see a
[1:59:56] Speaker 9: support they got.
[1:59:57] Speaker 2: But for the person to call what go to hell?
[2:00:01] Speaker 2: Go to hell.
[2:00:02] Speaker 9: That's what I'll say before I go, Folks, shout to
[2:00:06] Speaker 9: my parents at reginally email de Martin. Today they celebrated
[2:00:09] Speaker 9: air fifty ninth wedding anniversary. It's bribe fifty nine years,
[2:00:13] Speaker 9: and so I want to give them a shout out.
[2:00:16] Speaker 9: I know they are watching and checking this out. Let's
[2:00:20] Speaker 9: see here that y'all get the photo. We'll see here
[2:00:22] Speaker 9: to jug get the photo in the control room for
[2:00:26] Speaker 9: them not go through. Okay, I got to resend the photo.
[2:00:29] Speaker 9: Photo did photo didn't go through, So y'all go ahead
[2:00:33] Speaker 9: and pull it up. Just seting it right there to
[2:00:37] Speaker 9: group me and so yes, right, fifty nine years and
[2:00:42] Speaker 9: of course I'm sure they are having a ball as
[2:00:45] Speaker 9: I always do, and so definitely want to shout them out.
[2:00:50] Speaker 9: Let me thank our panelist today, Let me thank Nicole,
[2:00:53] Speaker 9: Let me thank Robert, let me thank Rebecca for being
[2:00:55] Speaker 9: on today's show.
[2:00:56] Speaker 2: I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much, folks.
[2:00:59] Speaker 9: As I said, I'm here in Nashville, so you see
[2:01:02] Speaker 9: behind me, you've got a whole bunch of folks. So
[2:01:05] Speaker 9: for my NFL players, retired players, the NFL alumni. They're
[2:01:10] Speaker 9: having their golf tournament here in Nashville, and I'll be
[2:01:14] Speaker 9: playing tomorrow, and so we'll be talking to Al Smith
[2:01:18] Speaker 9: who's with the organization. Of course, he's a longtime Tennessee
[2:01:22] Speaker 9: Titan star, a linebacker and so inviting me out here,
[2:01:26] Speaker 9: and so we look forward to playing tomorrow and talking
[2:01:28] Speaker 9: to a number of folks involved talk about the work
[2:01:32] Speaker 9: they do for children charities, the money they raise here
[2:01:35] Speaker 9: and so that's what the good work that they do
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[2:01:37] Speaker 2: So we'll look forward to that.
[2:01:38] Speaker 9: But a great time Monday, of course in Atlanta with
[2:01:41] Speaker 9: the former NFL player Warwick Dunn. He had his termament,
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[2:02:02] Speaker 2: So glad to be here.
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[2:03:49] Speaker 9: this is the photo shout of my parents, my nephew Chris.
[2:03:52] Speaker 9: Here's a high school graduation. So again, happy fifty ninth
[2:03:56] Speaker 9: wedding anniversary to both of them. It was a small
[2:04:00] Speaker 9: video my bad uh so keenan. I'm gonna send you
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[2:04:15] Speaker 9: This is the Jalen Rose shout out to Jalen Rose.
[2:04:18] Speaker 2: Of course he has his.
[2:04:20] Speaker 9: He has his charter school in Detroit. This is when
[2:04:23] Speaker 9: I played his golf tournament a couple of years ago. Uh,
[2:04:26] Speaker 9: and so I look forward to being there. That's gonna
[2:04:29] Speaker 9: beat July twenty seven. So I'll be in Detroit to
[2:04:32] Speaker 9: support Jalen Rose for his golf tournament and will broadcast
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