# College Sports Act Faces House Hurdles. Black Census Reveals Priorities. Freddie Jackson Dies At 70

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 7 Oct 2026, 2 h 12 min.

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10.6.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: College Sports Act Faces House Hurdles. Black Census Reveals Priorities. Freddie Jackson Dies At 70 TThe Protect College Sports Act must acnow clear the U.S. House of Representatives after passing the Senate, the legislation now faces key hurdles and a growing list of concerns for those who oppose it, which could derail the bill. Jury selection begins for a Ohio Black father charged with murdering the deputy after his son died at the hands of police. The Black Census Project launched its third iteration aiming to capture the political, social, and economic aspirations and challenges black communities face. U.S. Senate Democratic nominee Jasmine Thomas is running a grassroots socialist campaign in Oklahoma. Thomas will join us live to talk about her race for a seat in the House In tonight's Shop Black Star Network-Dot.com Marketplace segment, we're serving up the bold flavors and rich legacy of Mrs. Pruitt's Gourmet Cha Cha. Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:45] Speaker 1: It's Monday, October 5th, 2026, coming up on Roland Martin
[0:48] Speaker 1: on the filter, streaming live on the Black Star Network.
[0:51] Speaker 1: The U.S. Supreme Court's fall term begins today. We'll talk
[0:53] Speaker 1: about some of the cases to watch for and, of course,
[0:56] Speaker 1: decision not to hear. The case of former Baltimore City
[0:59] Speaker 1: State's attorney Marilyn Mosby, who appealed her federal perjury conviction.
[1:04] Speaker 1: Nolan Wells' family renews their call for a federal investigation
[1:07] Speaker 1: into the teen's death after a grand jury found there
[1:09] Speaker 1: was no sufficient evidence to charge anyone with the crime.
[1:13] Speaker 1: A Georgia black mother is calling out the GOP governor
[1:15] Speaker 1: candidate for using a picture of her murdered eight-year-old daughter
[1:19] Speaker 1: to attack his black opponent, Keisha Lance Bottoms. Five black
[1:23] Speaker 1: West Virginia children who were used as slaves by adoptive
[1:26] Speaker 1: parents will receive an historic multimillion-dollar settlement from the state.
[1:32] Speaker 1: The Detroit People's Food Co-op needs community support as they
[1:35] Speaker 1: face financial struggles. The organization's president will join us. Also,
[1:39] Speaker 1: Pope Leo. Remember when I called out conservatives saying they're
[1:43] Speaker 1: not really pro-life? Well, Pope Leo agrees. It's time to
[1:50] Speaker 1: bring the funk. I'm Roland McDonough Filton on the Black
[1:53] Speaker 1: Sun Network. Let's go.
[1:56] Speaker 2: Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's
[2:00] Speaker 2: got the scoop, the fact, the fine.
[2:02] Speaker 1: And when it breaks, he's right on time.
[2:04] Speaker 3: And it's rollin'. Best belief he's knowin'. Puttin' it down from.
[2:09] Speaker 2: Sports to news to politics.
[2:12] Speaker 1: With entertainment just for kicks.
[2:13] Speaker 2: He's rollin'. It's Uncle Roro, y'all.
[2:21] Speaker 4: It's Rollin' Martin, yeah.
[2:46] Speaker 1: Well, the U.S. Supreme Court is back at it. The
[2:48] Speaker 1: fall term began today. There are major cases on the
[2:50] Speaker 1: court's docket. One is concerning voting rights. The case is
[2:54] Speaker 1: the Republican National Committee versus Congress. Mi Familia Vota. It
[2:57] Speaker 1: challenges Arizona's election laws requiring anyone registering to vote to
[3:01] Speaker 1: provide satisfactory evidence of citizenship and requiring election officials to
[3:05] Speaker 1: remove anyone from the voting rolls if they learn the
[3:07] Speaker 1: person is not a citizen. Another case is about the
[3:11] Speaker 1: Second Amendment. That case questions if the Second and Fourteenth
[3:14] Speaker 1: Amendments guarantee an individual's right to possess AR-15s and other
[3:18] Speaker 1: similar semi-automatic rifles. The third deals with climate change. That
[3:23] Speaker 1: particular case will determine whether federal law precludes state law
[3:26] Speaker 1: claims seeking relief for injuries allegedly caused by the impact
[3:29] Speaker 1: of greenhouse gas emissions on the climate. Now, today, the
[3:33] Speaker 1: justice has declined to consider an appeal by former Baltimore
[3:36] Speaker 1: state's attorney, Marilyn Mosby, of her perjury and mortgage fraud case.
[3:40] Speaker 1: A federal appeals court overturned Mosby's mortgage fraud conviction that
[3:45] Speaker 1: took place in 2024. However, the court upheld her perjury conviction,
[3:50] Speaker 1: prompting her to appeal. Mosby released the following statement, quote,
[3:53] Speaker 1: while I'm deeply disappointed by the Supreme Court's decision to
[3:56] Speaker 1: deny Soteri, I'm not surprised. The political implications surrounding my
[4:00] Speaker 1: case have been evident from the beginning, which is why
[4:03] Speaker 1: I was unjustly and politically targeted. What remains deeply troubling
[4:06] Speaker 1: is that I am to this day the only person
[4:08] Speaker 1: convicted under a provision of a vague statute that has
[4:12] Speaker 1: never been legally defined by either the IRS or Congress.
[4:15] Speaker 1: It raises serious questions about fairness, equal justice, and whether
[4:18] Speaker 1: the law was applied consistently and constitutionally. I stand by
[4:22] Speaker 1: my innocence unequivocally. A Supreme Court denial does not transform
[4:26] Speaker 1: an unprecedented prosecution into a just one, nor does it
[4:29] Speaker 1: answer the serious questions about fairness, consistency, and equal treatment
[4:32] Speaker 1: that this case has exposed. For too long, powerful institutions
[4:36] Speaker 1: have expected people to accept injustice simply because it comes
[4:39] Speaker 1: wrapped in the authority of the government. I will not.
[4:42] Speaker 1: I've spent my career fighting for justice, and I will
[4:45] Speaker 1: not stop fighting now. I will continue every available legal
[4:48] Speaker 1: avenue to protect my law license, defend my reputation, and
[4:52] Speaker 1: ensure that my case is not the final word on
[4:54] Speaker 1: what justice looks like. This fight has never been just
[4:57] Speaker 1: about me. It is about whether our justice system can
[5:00] Speaker 1: be trusted to apply the law fairly without political agendas,
[5:04] Speaker 1: double standards, or selective prosecution. I refuse to be silenced,
[5:07] Speaker 1: and I refuse to allow political retaliation to be mistaken
[5:11] Speaker 1: for justice. I may be disappointed, but I'm not defeated.
[5:14] Speaker 1: I'm not backing down, and I will continue to fight
[5:17] Speaker 1: until the truth is heard. Now, folks, the recent poll
[5:22] Speaker 1: backs up Mosby questions about the court's fairness. According to Gallup,
[5:25] Speaker 1: only 34 percent of Americans say they approve, while 61 percent.
[5:30] Speaker 1: That's right. Sixty one percent disapprove of the high court.
[5:36] Speaker 1: Views of the court have fallen largely on partisan lines,
[5:39] Speaker 1: while 65 percent of Republicans approve of the court. Only
[5:42] Speaker 1: 12 percent of Democrats and 31 percent of independents approve,
[5:47] Speaker 1: according to the poll. It surveyed 1,000 adults from September
[5:50] Speaker 1: 1st to September 17th. It had a margin of error
[5:53] Speaker 1: of plus or minus four points. In addition to that,
[5:58] Speaker 1: Sam Alito has generated some attention. He, of course, is
[6:02] Speaker 1: one of the most conservative justices on the Supreme Court,
[6:06] Speaker 1: along with Clarence Thomas. Now, it's quite interesting that Alito,
[6:13] Speaker 1: he's been pushing a new book. He's been doing various
[6:16] Speaker 1: interviews recently. with folks, including CBS and Fox and others.
[6:21] Speaker 1: And one of the things he talked about was this
[6:23] Speaker 1: idea of precedent and whether or not precedent can be overturned.
[6:28] Speaker 1: This is what he had to say.
[6:31] Speaker 5: From the beginning has treated its precedence as deserving great respect.
[6:37] Speaker 1: But they are not untouchable.
[6:42] Speaker 5: Once something has been decided, it does not necessarily decide
[6:48] Speaker 5: the issue for all time. If that were the case,
[6:51] Speaker 5: then the country would have been stuck with some very
[6:55] Speaker 5: bad decisions. And the Supreme Court at times has made
[6:59] Speaker 5: very bad decisions. The best example of this is a
[7:03] Speaker 5: case called Plessy v. Ferguson, decided in 1896. which said
[7:08] Speaker 5: that it is constitutional for a state to discriminate on
[7:15] Speaker 5: the basis of race so long as it treats the
[7:19] Speaker 5: two races.
[7:20] Speaker 1: This had to do with.
[7:21] Speaker 5: Where someone could sit on a railroad train, but it
[7:24] Speaker 5: was applied to the schools. It was the separate but
[7:27] Speaker 5: equal principle. And what it meant was it's okay to
[7:31] Speaker 5: say blacks cannot attend the same school as whites so
[7:34] Speaker 5: long as the schools have equal facilities. And of course,
[7:39] Speaker 5: in practice, they did not have the equal facility. So
[7:42] Speaker 5: that was 1896. And if precedent could never be overruled,
[7:48] Speaker 5: we would have been stuck with that unless the Constitution
[7:51] Speaker 5: itself were amended. So in Brown v. Board of Education
[7:55] Speaker 5: in 1954, the Supreme Court corrected it. Precedent can be overruled.
[8:01] Speaker 5: At times, it should be overruled. But most of the time,
[8:04] Speaker 5: we follow precedent.
[8:06] Speaker 1: Now, folks.
[8:08] Speaker 1: That's his views on that. He also, he also, you know,
[8:13] Speaker 1: talked about this idea of, you know, people criticizing the court.
[8:19] Speaker 1: Listen to what legal said about this.
[8:22] Speaker 7: When you have political leaders on both sides talking about
[8:25] Speaker 7: the Supreme Court as though justices are just nothing more
[8:28] Speaker 7: than political actors trying to deliver victory to their team,
[8:32] Speaker 7: how damaging is that to the court?
[8:36] Speaker 5: I think it's damaging. I think it can be quite damaging.
[8:39] Speaker 5: There's been a great change in what presidents have said
[8:43] Speaker 5: about the court when they are unhappy about our decisions. Traditionally,
[8:48] Speaker 5: what presidents would say is the Supreme Court, it's made
[8:52] Speaker 5: its decision. I disagree with it, but we have to
[8:55] Speaker 5: abide by it. And that was it. That's what presidents said.
[8:59] Speaker 5: That's what members of the cabinet said. That has changed.
[9:03] Speaker 7: Did Trump change that?
[9:06] Speaker 1: It's been bipartisan.
[9:07] Speaker 5: It's a bipartisan effort.
[9:10] Speaker 1: But what's in terms of presidents?
[9:11] Speaker 7: I mean, the language that we're hearing from President Trump
[9:13] Speaker 7: is different, certainly with social media.
[9:16] Speaker 5: He has his own way of saying things. But the
[9:19] Speaker 5: criticism of the court, I mean, I wouldn't be even
[9:22] Speaker 5: handed on this. The criticism of the court by President
[9:25] Speaker 5: Biden and justices, by President Biden and his administration was
[9:30] Speaker 5: very harsh. And President Trump has been very harsh.
[9:35] Speaker 7: But you know, when you see the president of the
[9:37] Speaker 7: United States and you're saying you're following the law, whichever
[9:39] Speaker 7: way it leads you, but when you see the president
[9:42] Speaker 7: of the United States talking about you and some of
[9:46] Speaker 7: your colleagues as being part of his political MAGA movement,
[9:50] Speaker 7: that you're trying to make America great again, does that
[9:52] Speaker 7: bother you?
[9:53] Speaker 5: Well, we are not part of any political movement. And
[9:58] Speaker 5: we are not attempting... to further any political agenda. We
[10:04] Speaker 5: are trying to interpret the Constitution as best we can
[10:08] Speaker 5: and apply it in the cases that come before.
[10:12] Speaker 1: So that's cute to actually say that. But let me
[10:16] Speaker 1: just remind people. Let me just remind people that Supreme
[10:22] Speaker 1: Court appointees are nominated by the person occupying the White House.
[10:27] Speaker 1: They are political decisions. There are three branches of government
[10:31] Speaker 1: in our system, y'all. There is the legislative. It's the
[10:36] Speaker 1: House and the Senate. There's the executive. That's the White
[10:40] Speaker 1: House administration. And there is the judicial. And not only
[10:45] Speaker 1: are the opponent Supreme Court justices, and there are only nine.
[10:48] Speaker 1: appointed for life by the occupant of the White House,
[10:53] Speaker 1: they also are confirmed or denied by the United States Senate.
[10:59] Speaker 1: There have been denials. Robert Bork failed out of committee.
[11:05] Speaker 1: Never got a vote in the full U.S. Supreme Court.
[11:08] Speaker 1: Full United States Senate. Clarence Thomas barely survived the committee
[11:12] Speaker 1: hearing and was chosen. So, Alito's wrong and they're chosen
[11:19] Speaker 1: also for their political views. Now, of course, you can
[11:25] Speaker 1: be appointed by a Republican and all of a sudden
[11:26] Speaker 1: you may then, as they say, may flip to become
[11:30] Speaker 1: a liberal. We've seen that as well. But the reality
[11:32] Speaker 1: is these still are political decisions. And Sam Alito, and
[11:38] Speaker 1: here's the other piece. Who says y'all can't be criticized? See,
[11:45] Speaker 1: this is the problem that we have. Hold on. We
[11:48] Speaker 1: got to trust the court's decision. The problem is when
[11:50] Speaker 1: you have a court that is so partisan, so uneven
[11:54] Speaker 1: in its decisions that you deserve to be criticized. If
[11:58] Speaker 1: we get to criticize legislative and we get to criticize
[12:03] Speaker 1: the executive, well, what makes you think we can't criticize
[12:06] Speaker 1: the judicial? Yeah, we also should be able to criticize
[12:13] Speaker 1: the judicial. But I also really want people to understand
[12:20] Speaker 1: the power that we're talking about. And somebody sent a
[12:26] Speaker 1: clip earlier today. My man, Mark Lamont Hill, I was
[12:30] Speaker 1: talking to him on some other stuff coming in today.
[12:33] Speaker 1: And it was talking about the 2016 presidential race. And
[12:38] Speaker 1: you might remember there were people who were critical of him.
[12:40] Speaker 1: They were critical of Eddie Glaude. They were critical of
[12:42] Speaker 1: others who were highly critical of Hillary Clinton. And we're
[12:50] Speaker 1: saying that we should not vote for Hillary Clinton. Hey,
[12:55] Speaker 1: if we get Trump, that might lead to... Remember Susan Sarandon. Oh,
[12:59] Speaker 1: if we get Trump, that might lead to a more...
[13:03] Speaker 1: It might lead to a real leftist movement.
[13:07] Speaker 8: And.
[13:08] Speaker 1: Not a one led by moderates and corporate Dems. I
[13:12] Speaker 1: remember that. I remember that very well. Here's the problem
[13:18] Speaker 1: with that. Trump got elected. Trump was able to appoint
[13:25] Speaker 1: three Supreme Court justices. One of them was held up
[13:31] Speaker 1: when Mitch McConnell refused to consider Merrick Garland was appointed
[13:36] Speaker 1: by Obama. I still believe and I will never back
[13:39] Speaker 1: down from it. I believe that Obama appointing Merrick Garland
[13:43] Speaker 1: was a massive, massive mistake because who's going to be
[13:48] Speaker 1: out there really fighting for Merrick Garland? And so as
[13:51] Speaker 1: a result, what happened? Well, what happened was a lot
[13:58] Speaker 1: of people out there were like, yo, Trump ain't going
[14:03] Speaker 1: to be that bad. Three Supreme Court justices. Three. Here's
[14:14] Speaker 1: the problem. He's now back. Let's say Democrats, and Alito
[14:20] Speaker 1: talked about it in these interviews, how he considers retiring
[14:24] Speaker 1: every year. He may retire after the end of the
[14:27] Speaker 1: next term. Let's say Republicans keep control of the United
[14:33] Speaker 1: States Senate.
[14:36] Speaker 9: Oh. Oh.
[14:37] Speaker 1: Y'all can write it down. Sam Alito is going to
[14:40] Speaker 1: retire to ensure that Trump gets to appoint his fourth
[14:45] Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice. And the Republican led Senate is going
[14:49] Speaker 1: to confirm it. And that person is probably going to
[14:52] Speaker 1: be between the ages of 39 and 45 because they
[14:57] Speaker 1: want a Supreme Court justice who's going to be there
[15:00] Speaker 1: for the next 30 to 50 years. So all those
[15:03] Speaker 1: people who were on the fence and were like, no,
[15:06] Speaker 1: don't support Hillary Clinton. They were not looking forward in
[15:10] Speaker 1: the future. They were only looking in the present. And
[15:15] Speaker 1: we have seen how this court has ruled against black people,
[15:19] Speaker 1: against brown people, against voting rights, against civil rights, against
[15:24] Speaker 1: the environment. This hardcore Supreme Court. So why do you
[15:30] Speaker 1: think November is so important? Polling shows that Democrats are
[15:35] Speaker 1: tied with the Democratic candidates. It's tied with the Republican
[15:39] Speaker 1: in Florida. The Democrat is barely, uh, Tallarico is up
[15:44] Speaker 1: small margin against Paxton in Texas. Democratic candidate is leading
[15:49] Speaker 1: in Iowa, leading in Ohio, leading in Georgia, leading in
[15:54] Speaker 1: North Carolina, neck and neck in Maine, leading in Alaska.
[15:59] Speaker 1: That's eight seats. The Democrats could very well control the Senate.
[16:06] Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, if the Democrats control
[16:10] Speaker 1: the United States Senate, Alito and Thomas are not going
[16:14] Speaker 1: to retire. They're going to try to hold on as
[16:17] Speaker 1: much as possible. But you also got to factor this in.
[16:23] Speaker 1: Justice Sonia Sotomayor, she travels with a nurse. She has diabetes.
[16:31] Speaker 1: Anything can happen. What I'm trying to explain to people is,
[16:34] Speaker 1: There are so many people who have fixated on ideology
[16:37] Speaker 1: who do not understand that unlike the other two branches
[16:43] Speaker 1: in the House, you could change power in the House
[16:47] Speaker 1: every two years because every two years, the entire House
[16:50] Speaker 1: is up for reelection. Every single, every two years, a
[16:56] Speaker 1: third of the Senate is up for reelection. The White
[17:00] Speaker 1: House is only up once every four years. the judicial branch,
[17:07] Speaker 1: they're never up. Those are lifetime appointments to the federal bench,
[17:13] Speaker 1: to the appeals court, the Supreme Court. So understand the
[17:18] Speaker 1: decisions that you make in November as to whether Democrats
[17:24] Speaker 1: or Republicans control the Senate is going to determine what
[17:29] Speaker 1: happens with the Supreme Court. And that means that if
[17:33] Speaker 1: an opening comes up on the Supreme Court and the
[17:36] Speaker 1: Democrats control the Senate, they should do exactly what McConnell did.
[17:42] Speaker 1: We're not going to have a hearing until the next election.
[17:45] Speaker 1: It was 10 months where Mitch McConnell said, no, we're
[17:48] Speaker 1: going to let the voters decide in November. He held
[17:51] Speaker 1: that position open to risk Republicans winning, and they did.
[17:59] Speaker 1: That's why these things matter. That's why elections matter. That's why.
[18:06] Speaker 1: And so when you hear me talking about the Anita
[18:08] Speaker 1: Earls race in North Carolina, why I need every black
[18:12] Speaker 1: person voting for her North Carolina, because right now Republicans
[18:15] Speaker 1: control it five to two. Last year, the woman only
[18:19] Speaker 1: won by 700 some odd votes. The three Republicans who
[18:23] Speaker 1: were up in 2028, you hold Anita Earls seat. You
[18:28] Speaker 1: win all three. You now control the North Carolina Supreme Court, 2029.
[18:32] Speaker 1: What did we just see last year? Critical race in Wisconsin.
[18:40] Speaker 1: The candidate that Democrats supported won, flipped the court. The
[18:44] Speaker 1: race this year increased their support on the court. That
[18:50] Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court, now their rulings change because of who's
[18:53] Speaker 1: in power. Folks, this is what we need to understand
[18:59] Speaker 1: We're talking about critical races. For me, for black people,
[19:04] Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to vote blue. I'm telling you
[19:08] Speaker 1: to vote black. And if you want to vote black,
[19:12] Speaker 1: and that means that you are voting for healthcare, for
[19:16] Speaker 1: environmental rights, for civil rights, for voting rights, you are
[19:22] Speaker 1: voting for the protection, affirmative action, other programs, Well, then
[19:28] Speaker 1: you support Democratic candidates in those states, in Georgia, in
[19:32] Speaker 1: North Carolina, in Florida, in Texas, in Ohio, in Kentucky,
[19:36] Speaker 1: in Mississippi with Scott Colon. I need folks to understand
[19:42] Speaker 1: what's at stake. And unfortunately, too many of us are
[19:46] Speaker 1: not connecting the dots. Bring in my pound of Omicongo Domingo, Sr.
[19:50] Speaker 1: professorial lecturer, School of International Service, American University, author of
[19:53] Speaker 1: Lies About Black People, How to Combat Racist. Julian Boudin,
[19:56] Speaker 1: former South Carolina Democratic U.S. Senate nominee. Reverend Shonda Nicole Gladden, CEO,
[20:02] Speaker 1: Good to the Soul, LLC, pastor of La Plata AME
[20:04] Speaker 1: Church in Maryland. Let me have all three of you here. Julian,
[20:09] Speaker 1: I'll start with you. I mean, you ran... for the
[20:11] Speaker 1: United States Senate. And I just think that for a
[20:13] Speaker 1: lot of people not fully understanding how all of these
[20:18] Speaker 1: things are interconnected. And even beyond the Supreme Court, you
[20:23] Speaker 1: have U.S. attorneys that are appointed. You have other positions,
[20:32] Speaker 1: federal judges. You have so many other Senate-confirmed positions that
[20:37] Speaker 1: go vacant depending upon who's in power. People need to
[20:41] Speaker 1: understand that these things matter.
[20:44] Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely they do. I'll make this a little bit
[20:47] Speaker 10: personal for me. It's because prior to running for the
[20:50] Speaker 10: United States Senate here in South Dakota, I was actually
[20:52] Speaker 10: the Biden nominee for U.S.
[20:53] Speaker 11: Marshal.
[20:54] Speaker 10: And so one of the things that we did here
[20:56] Speaker 10: in this state was we went without a U.S.
[20:58] Speaker 11: Marshal and also a U.S.
[21:00] Speaker 10: Attorney for that entire term because the United States Senate
[21:03] Speaker 10: failed to confirm those nominees. These are certainly important positions.
[21:08] Speaker 10: You're talking about the top law enforcement officer in the
[21:11] Speaker 10: state and also the top prosecutor in the state. And
[21:14] Speaker 10: so when we talk about, you know, the critical issues
[21:16] Speaker 10: like public safety and making sure that especially communities of
[21:20] Speaker 10: color and black communities, and in South Dakota, we really
[21:23] Speaker 10: talk about our indigenous communities. When you talk about those
[21:26] Speaker 10: folks having access to resources, and resources can be people sometimes,
[21:30] Speaker 10: the United States Senate has a responsibility to confirm those positions.
[21:35] Speaker 10: And so when we talk about Alito, very specifically, I
[21:39] Speaker 10: do want to say one thing that I agree with
[21:41] Speaker 10: him on. It's a fundamental principle that judges can't make
[21:44] Speaker 10: these decisions because they're afraid of political retaliation. And so
[21:48] Speaker 10: Trump is just as responsible in those threats than anyone
[21:54] Speaker 10: else across this country. And so political retaliation is something
[21:57] Speaker 10: that I think no federal judges, including the United States
[21:59] Speaker 10: Supreme Court justices, should be worried about. But that responsibility
[22:04] Speaker 10: falls on the Trump administration and the current people in power,
[22:06] Speaker 10: which is the Republicans in the United States Senate.
[22:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:10] Speaker 1: And the reality is Alito is not going to criticize
[22:12] Speaker 1: Donald Trump because he supports Donald Trump. And we all
[22:16] Speaker 1: know what's going on here. We're not confused at all
[22:19] Speaker 1: on the Congo.
[22:22] Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
[22:23] Speaker 12: I mean, anybody who's confused at this point is just
[22:26] Speaker 12: not paying attention. They don't want to pay attention or
[22:29] Speaker 12: maybe they are on the take for Team MAGA.
[22:31] Speaker 4: And that's really what it comes down to.
[22:33] Speaker 12: If we don't understand the importance of this election after
[22:36] Speaker 12: all we've been talking about here on the Black Star Network,
[22:39] Speaker 12: after all so many of us have been doing in
[22:41] Speaker 12: the various spaces. You know, like I said, if we
[22:43] Speaker 12: get Trump again the second time around, this country gets
[22:46] Speaker 12: what it deserves. And if they're going to allow this
[22:48] Speaker 12: man to appoint a fourth Supreme Court justice, and like
[22:51] Speaker 12: you said, it's going to be somebody in their late 20s, 30s,
[22:53] Speaker 12: early 40s or whatever, it's going to be game.
[22:56] Speaker 4: Over on certain issues.
[22:57] Speaker 12: And so when you look at every single aspect, and
[22:59] Speaker 12: I also remember all of those people, Susan Sarandon's of
[23:02] Speaker 12: the world, who are saying maybe we can stand Trump.
[23:04] Speaker 4: It's clear that we can't survive.
[23:06] Speaker 12: Other people were saying at the same time we might
[23:08] Speaker 12: be able to survive one term of Trump, but we
[23:11] Speaker 12: won't be able to survive two terms of Trump.
[23:13] Speaker 4: And we're getting to that point right now.
[23:15] Speaker 12: These midterms are absolutely key, because if we don't get
[23:19] Speaker 12: it together now, what are we going to do between
[23:20] Speaker 12: now and 2028 if this man keeps either the House
[23:23] Speaker 12: or the Senate?
[23:25] Speaker 4: I'm just tired, Roland Martin.
[23:26] Speaker 12: You talk about this all of the time, about these
[23:29] Speaker 12: daggone polls, man. Everybody's spending all of their time, this poll, this,
[23:34] Speaker 12: Tyler Riegel, that.
[23:34] Speaker 4: And so on and so forth.
[23:35] Speaker 12: Yeah, talk about the polls only if you're going to
[23:38] Speaker 12: talk about we still need to get out there and
[23:40] Speaker 12: do the work. Talk about the polls only if you're
[23:42] Speaker 12: going to talk about we still need to register people.
[23:44] Speaker 12: We still need to go because if this poll's saying
[23:46] Speaker 12: that we got a particular lead in something, we can
[23:48] Speaker 12: lose this lead if we get comfortable. People don't want
[23:51] Speaker 12: to make that comparison, and that's part of the problem.
[23:54] Speaker 12: And so between now and this election, people can't get
[23:57] Speaker 12: comfortable with all these polls saying Democrats are going to
[24:00] Speaker 12: pull ahead. Just look at the 2016 election with Hillary
[24:02] Speaker 12: Clinton and just remind yourself that polls are nonsense and
[24:05] Speaker 12: get out there and keep doing the work.
[24:09] Speaker 1: Well, absolutely. And again, I'm just, it amazes me when
[24:14] Speaker 1: I talk to so many different people. And Shonda, we're
[24:17] Speaker 1: trying to walk them through these things, how they really
[24:19] Speaker 1: don't understand how so many of these things are interconnected
[24:23] Speaker 1: And when you sit elections out, when you sit elections out,
[24:27] Speaker 1: it impacts. Listen, Scott Colon was running for the United
[24:30] Speaker 1: States Senate in Mississippi. He was appointed to the federal
[24:32] Speaker 1: bench by a Democratic president. Cindy Hyde-Smith blocked his appointment
[24:37] Speaker 1: to the federal bench. That's a black judge at the
[24:41] Speaker 1: federal bench. He's not running for the U.S. Senate. This
[24:44] Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. So if people are sitting
[24:47] Speaker 1: out the election in Mississippi, you're basically approving of a
[24:51] Speaker 1: white supremacist in Cindy Hyde-Smith.
[24:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
[24:58] Speaker 13: As we think about walking people through this, right, it
[25:01] Speaker 13: is part of the strategy of Project 2025, which we
[25:04] Speaker 13: haven't talked about tonight. But I know you talked about
[25:07] Speaker 13: in many other episodes before tonight that this this midterm
[25:11] Speaker 13: election is a critical piece of. of the Project 2025 goal,
[25:16] Speaker 13: that it's this strategy that's built to take advantage of
[25:18] Speaker 13: a judiciary that may be more receptive to expansive conservative agenda.
[25:23] Speaker 13: And while we know that this current construction of the
[25:26] Speaker 13: Supreme Court, it wasn't built or created by Project 2025
[25:29] Speaker 13: or within one presidency, But it certainly is built to
[25:32] Speaker 13: take advantage of what voters do or don't do at
[25:36] Speaker 13: the election ballot, because next month's election, it really matters.
[25:40] Speaker 13: We can't replace the Supreme Court justices, right, in this
[25:43] Speaker 13: one election. But we can elect a House that conducts
[25:46] Speaker 13: oversight and a Senate that decides who is going to
[25:50] Speaker 13: sit on the federal bench for the next however many decades.
[25:53] Speaker 13: So this next election is critical for us to not
[25:56] Speaker 13: sit at home, to not give up. And to make
[25:58] Speaker 13: sure that we are voting, as you have said, voting black,
[26:00] Speaker 13: certainly voting community, voting in a way that allows us
[26:03] Speaker 13: to ensure that the idea of America does not get
[26:06] Speaker 13: co-opted or even stolen by the judiciary being undertaken by
[26:11] Speaker 13: the executive branch of the government.
[26:13] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And so, folks, I'm telling you all right now,
[26:17] Speaker 1: all of these things matter. Listen, I need people to
[26:20] Speaker 1: understand we're giving you the deadlines. Listen, today's October 5th.
[26:26] Speaker 1: It's the deadline to register. In Texas, let's walk through
[26:29] Speaker 1: the deadlines again. If you're not registered, you can't vote.
[26:33] Speaker 1: You can't vote. You cannot impact these elections. Let's pull
[26:36] Speaker 1: the dates up, please. And so, again, today, double check
[26:39] Speaker 1: the times, y'all, because it could be based upon postmark. Listen,
[26:43] Speaker 1: it's six forty three p.m. Eastern. Listen. Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas.
[26:54] Speaker 1: That's today. Y'all know. Go back. Go back. Go back.
[26:56] Speaker 1: Let me look at those. Explain again. Again, Florida, critical
[27:00] Speaker 1: governor's race, Senate race, Georgia, critical governor's race. Senate race. Kentucky,
[27:09] Speaker 1: critical Senate race. It's a brother running for the Senate
[27:11] Speaker 1: in Louisiana. It's a brother running for the Senate in Mississippi.
[27:16] Speaker 1: You've got the Ohio Senate race. You've got the Tennessee
[27:20] Speaker 1: congressional races as well as gubernatorial race. You've got Texas
[27:24] Speaker 1: Senate race, governor's race. Y'all, huge, huge implications. Now, let's
[27:28] Speaker 1: go to the next one. October 6th, deadlines for Illinois, Nevada,
[27:31] Speaker 1: New Mexico. The seventh is Missouri. Ninth, North Carolina and Oklahoma.
[27:39] Speaker 1: The 10th, Delaware. 13th, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, Oregon,
[27:46] Speaker 1: West Virginia, District of Columbia. The 14th is Wisconsin. 16th
[27:51] Speaker 1: is Connecticut. 19th, Alabama, California, Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania, South Dakota.
[27:58] Speaker 1: October 20th is Wyoming. 23rd is Idaho, Nebraska, Utah, Virginia. Twenty-fourth,
[28:04] Speaker 1: Massachusetts and New York. Twenty-sixth, Hawaii, Colorado, and Washington State.
[28:10] Speaker 1: New Hampshire varies from six to 13 days before the election,
[28:14] Speaker 1: depending upon local supervisors. North Dakota has no voter registration.
[28:19] Speaker 1: Bring valid IDs showing a North Dakota residential address to vote. Vermont,
[28:24] Speaker 1: no advanced deadline. You can register through Election Day. Folks,
[28:29] Speaker 1: now early voting. Virginia, they're voting right now in Virginia
[28:34] Speaker 1: as we speak. Now, Alabama does not have any early voting.
[28:38] Speaker 1: Alaska is October 19th through November 3rd. Arizona starts in
[28:43] Speaker 1: two days, October 7th through the 30th. Arkansas, October 19th
[28:47] Speaker 1: and November 2nd. California, Your early voting started today through
[28:51] Speaker 1: November 2nd. Colorado, October 19th through November 3rd. Connecticut, October
[28:56] Speaker 1: 19th through November 1st. Delaware, October 22nd through November 1st. D.C.,
[29:01] Speaker 1: October 26th through November 1st. Florida, October 24th through October 31st.
[29:07] Speaker 1: You only have one week of early voting in Florida. Georgia,
[29:11] Speaker 1: October 13th through the 30th. Hawaii, October 20th through November 3rd. Idaho,
[29:16] Speaker 1: October 13th through October 30th. Illinois, September 24th through November 2nd.
[29:20] Speaker 1: So they've been early voting in Illinois already. Indiana, you
[29:24] Speaker 1: start tomorrow, October 6th through November 2nd. Iowa, October 14th
[29:28] Speaker 1: through November 2nd. Kansas, October 14th through November 2nd. Kentucky,
[29:33] Speaker 1: you only have two days, three days, October 29th through
[29:36] Speaker 1: October 31st. Louisiana, October 20th through October 27th. Maine started yesterday,
[29:42] Speaker 1: October 4th through October 29th. Maryland, October 22nd through the 29th. Massachusetts,
[29:50] Speaker 1: October 17th through October 30th. Michigan, October 24th through November 1st. Minnesota,
[29:56] Speaker 1: September 18th through November 2nd. Mississippi, no shock, no early voting. Missouri,
[30:01] Speaker 1: October 20th through November 2nd. Montana, October 5th through November 2nd. Nebraska,
[30:06] Speaker 1: October 5th through November 2nd. Nevada, October 17th through October 30th.
[30:10] Speaker 1: New Hampshire, no early voting. New Jersey, October 24th through
[30:15] Speaker 1: November 1st. New Mexico, October 6th through October 31st. New
[30:18] Speaker 1: York State, October 24th through November 1st. North Carolina, October
[30:22] Speaker 1: 15th through October 31st. North Dakota, it varies. Ohio, you
[30:26] Speaker 1: start tomorrow through November 1st. Oklahoma, October 28th through October 31st. Oregon,
[30:32] Speaker 1: no early voting. They do voting by mail there. Pennsylvania
[30:35] Speaker 1: varies through October 27th. Rhode Island, October 14th through November 2nd.
[30:41] Speaker 1: South Carolina, October 19th through the 31st. South Dakota, September
[30:45] Speaker 1: 18th through November 2nd. It's happening right now. Tennessee, October
[30:48] Speaker 1: 14th through the 29th. Texas, October 19th through the October 30th. Utah,
[30:53] Speaker 1: October 20th through October 30th. Vermont, September 19th through November 2nd. Virginia,
[30:58] Speaker 1: September 18th through October 31st. Washington State, October 16th through
[31:02] Speaker 1: November 3rd. West Virginia, October 21st through October 31st. Wisconsin,
[31:07] Speaker 1: October 20th. through November 1st, Wyoming, October 6th, through November 2nd.
[31:14] Speaker 1: So folks, those are the early voting dates. Get involved
[31:18] Speaker 1: in this process because your vote absolutely counts. Folks, going
[31:24] Speaker 1: to go to a break. We'll be right back. Roland
[31:25] Speaker 1: Martin on filter. The Black Star Network. Do me a favor. Folks,
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[32:12] Speaker 1: business organizations, sororities, business groups, social groups, what our neighborhoods,
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[32:51] Speaker 1: A real person walked her through the whole thing and
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[32:56] Speaker 1: not just her. A woman in Yonkers wrote in saying
[32:59] Speaker 1: the process was so simple, the enrollment was easy, and
[33:02] Speaker 1: she was so glad she called. Then there's Marilyn, 90
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[34:05] Speaker 3: I was already a lawyer when my brother was murdered.
[34:09] Speaker 3: His killer was never brought to trial. That loss didn't
[34:13] Speaker 3: put me on this path, but it has shaped how
[34:16] Speaker 3: I walk it. As a justice, I hold criminals accountable,
[34:21] Speaker 3: keep communities safe, and ensure every victim gets their day
[34:25] Speaker 3: in court. I'm Anita Earls. As a justice, I won't
[34:30] Speaker 3: stop working until the law works for everyone.
[34:39] Speaker 14: Robin, it's your favorite omega here, Attorney Demario Solomon-Simmons. Brother,
[34:47] Speaker 14: I just wanted to stop in and say congratulations on
[34:50] Speaker 14: your eight-year anniversary of Roland Martin Unfiltered. This is a
[34:54] Speaker 14: tremendous milestone, and I'm so thankful for the work that you, Curl,
[34:58] Speaker 14: and the rest of the staff, that y'all do each
[35:00] Speaker 14: and every day, making sure our views, our issues, and
[35:03] Speaker 14: our news is front and center. Brother, I want to
[35:06] Speaker 14: see eight more years of this powerful work, or 80
[35:08] Speaker 14: more years of this powerful work.
[35:10] Speaker 11: Keep it going. We need you now more than ever.
[35:13] Speaker 15: Peace.
[35:22] Speaker 1: Well, the call to find out exactly what happened when
[35:24] Speaker 1: Nolan Wells disappeared and ended up dead continues. The 18-year-old's parents,
[35:28] Speaker 1: their attorney, civil rights attorney Ben Crump, stood by, stopped,
[35:32] Speaker 1: stood by, stopped AAPI hate executive director Cynthia Choi demanding
[35:36] Speaker 1: a federal investigation into Nolan's death again. The body of
[35:39] Speaker 1: Nolan Wells was found in the water just off Horn
[35:42] Speaker 1: Island on the morning of July 6th. He was reported
[35:44] Speaker 1: missing on the night of July 4th after he didn't
[35:46] Speaker 1: return from a boating trip with his friends. Last month,
[35:49] Speaker 1: Angel Myers, Macklebrath District Attorney, The 19th Circuit Court District
[35:52] Speaker 1: of Mississippi said the Jackson County grand jury ruled that
[35:55] Speaker 1: Nolan died from an accidental drowning, which is consistent with
[35:58] Speaker 1: the evidence and that the evidence does not rule it out.
[36:01] Speaker 1: No criminal charges or indictments will be filed at this time.
[36:04] Speaker 1: Both the state and independent autopsies ruled Nolan's cause and
[36:07] Speaker 1: matter of death is undetermined. At today's news conference, they
[36:12] Speaker 1: say that's the problem. No one can tell Nolan's parents
[36:15] Speaker 1: exactly what happened.
[36:19] Speaker 6: I plead that his case is reopened, reexamined, but also
[36:30] Speaker 6: that the authorities.
[36:32] Speaker 2: Do their job.
[36:35] Speaker 16: Treat him as if this were your child, your niece,
[36:40] Speaker 16: your nephew, whatever you need to do to give us
[36:45] Speaker 16: an honest and.
[36:49] Speaker 2: That's it.
[36:50] Speaker 17: That is all we want. We have not blamed anyone.
[36:56] Speaker 17: We have not tried to cause a division. That was
[37:01] Speaker 17: never our intent. And it was not us. It was
[37:06] Speaker 17: not our legal team.
[37:07] Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's just the way it happened. So I ask
[37:14] Speaker 2: that you all please just....
[37:18] Speaker 6: Continue to uplift us in prayer.
[37:21] Speaker 2: Continue to say his name.
[37:24] Speaker 18: When a family is denied truth and when anyone seeking
[37:28] Speaker 18: justice is met with closed doors, intimidation instead of answers,
[37:35] Speaker 18: this fight.
[37:36] Speaker 2: Belongs to all of us.
[37:39] Speaker 18: I'm here standing alongside Christine and Elmar Wells-Wonsley, who have
[37:47] Speaker 18: done nothing more than ask what has happened to their son, Nolan.
[37:53] Speaker 2: His life mattered. Yes. First, we add our voice to the.
[38:01] Speaker 18: Call for a full and transparent and ongoing pursuit of
[38:05] Speaker 18: truth and We join the Wells-Wansley family in demanding that
[38:10] Speaker 18: the Department of Justice use their resources to conduct a
[38:14] Speaker 18: full and thorough federal investigation. Second, we condemn in the
[38:22] Speaker 18: strongest terms possible the patterns of harassment and intimidation that
[38:27] Speaker 18: has followed this family's search for truth. Targeting someone's livelihood,
[38:37] Speaker 18: their career, their ability to provide for their family in
[38:40] Speaker 18: the midst of their grief simply because they refuse to
[38:46] Speaker 18: stay silent. We all know that this is a tactic
[38:50] Speaker 18: to exhaust, frighten, silence those who ask hard questions. And
[38:57] Speaker 18: it has no place in our just society. We stand
[39:01] Speaker 18: with the Wells-Wansley family for as long.
[39:05] Speaker 1: As it takes. Omecongo, what's unfortunate is that the Trump administration,
[39:10] Speaker 1: they're not going to do a damn thing.
[39:14] Speaker 12: Which completely ties to our last segment. I mean, if
[39:18] Speaker 12: you're looking for any other reason to get out and vote,
[39:20] Speaker 12: vote for Nolan Wells. Vote for his family. Vote for
[39:24] Speaker 12: a situation that can put people in different places at
[39:26] Speaker 12: state and local levels that can help this family get justice.
[39:29] Speaker 12: We have literally watched right now, Roland, in 2026, life
[39:34] Speaker 12: just get thrown away. And it's just reminiscent of all
[39:37] Speaker 12: of the recent cases in past years of Black Lives Matter,
[39:40] Speaker 12: whether we're talking about Sandra Bland, Trayvon Martin, just run
[39:43] Speaker 12: down the whatever situation. This family is simply trying to
[39:47] Speaker 12: get justice. And they've been told Case closed. Y'all got attitudes.
[39:50] Speaker 12: You're being divisive. And those families out there who knew
[39:55] Speaker 12: Nolan Wells, they're just out there living their best lives,
[39:58] Speaker 12: living free. And this whole man's life, young man's life,
[40:01] Speaker 12: was taken from this planet. And again, we can't say
[40:05] Speaker 12: whether it's murder or something else, but all we're asking
[40:11] Speaker 12: is for an opportunity to get answers.
[40:15] Speaker 4: And the answers could take us anywhere.
[40:16] Speaker 12: But the way that they are treating his family, I'm
[40:18] Speaker 12: just grateful that there are organizations and networks like the
[40:21] Speaker 12: Black Star Network that uplift Nolan Wells every day, that
[40:24] Speaker 12: uplift his family every day, because nobody should have to
[40:27] Speaker 12: go through this.
[40:29] Speaker 4: And this is a reminder.
[40:30] Speaker 12: You will get no form of justice at any level
[40:33] Speaker 12: as long as this administration is in power from the
[40:36] Speaker 12: federal level down to the state levels and all the
[40:38] Speaker 12: MAGA supporters at the local levels. Get out there and vote.
[40:41] Speaker 12: That is part of the process of getting any form
[40:44] Speaker 12: of answers.
[40:47] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And again, we need people to understand the same thing.
[40:51] Speaker 1: Whoever is in control of administration, they control the Department
[40:54] Speaker 1: of Justice. They control what they do. I keep telling
[40:58] Speaker 1: Sean that these things go together.
[41:02] Speaker 2: These things do go together.
[41:04] Speaker 13: And I want to just call our attention to the
[41:06] Speaker 13: reality that in 1955, Emmett Till's murder was not investigated
[41:12] Speaker 13: by the FBI at the time. The Justice Department reopened
[41:15] Speaker 13: the case, we know, in 2004, conducting that two-year investigation
[41:19] Speaker 13: and discovered that there was some more information to be found.
[41:22] Speaker 13: And so to close the case so immediately, we're not even, what,
[41:27] Speaker 13: three months in, the 4th of July, August, September, October, right?
[41:31] Speaker 2: Three months in.
[41:32] Speaker 13: And to suggest that medical records that suggest or the
[41:36] Speaker 13: autopsy that suggests that it's inconclusive in terms of how
[41:41] Speaker 13: the cause and manner of death has happened when there
[41:43] Speaker 13: are so many questions surrounding water in his lungs, the
[41:47] Speaker 13: absence of water in his lungs and throat and stomach.
[41:49] Speaker 13: There's just too many questions still related to this unknown death,
[41:56] Speaker 13: that if we are going to secure the ways that
[42:01] Speaker 13: the United States of America continues to be a democracy
[42:05] Speaker 13: that cares for all human beings, it would seem super
[42:08] Speaker 13: premature and unwarranted to close the case when there's so
[42:12] Speaker 13: many unknown variables. And I think every family should be
[42:16] Speaker 13: fighting for this at the ballot box to say, if
[42:18] Speaker 13: you won't fight for Nolan Wells to have an extensive
[42:23] Speaker 13: investigation at the federal level, what if it happens to
[42:26] Speaker 13: your family? What if it happens to someone in your community?
[42:30] Speaker 13: Would you want the case to be closed immediately? And
[42:33] Speaker 13: I think most voters, most Americans would say absolutely not.
[42:37] Speaker 2: Julian?
[42:43] Speaker 1: Julie, we can't hear you.
[42:43] Speaker 11: I heard this.
[42:46] Speaker 1: Go ahead.
[42:48] Speaker 2: Okay.
[42:49] Speaker 10: I want to start off by saying this, and I
[42:51] Speaker 10: believe I heard this directly from Nolan Wells' mother, is
[42:54] Speaker 10: that we have to remember, although Nolan.
[42:56] Speaker 11: Was 18 years old, he was a boy.
[42:59] Speaker 10: And he is being treated by this entire system as
[43:02] Speaker 10: if he was a grown man. And the opposite can
[43:05] Speaker 10: be said about the other young men that were involved
[43:08] Speaker 10: in his case as well. You know, for me, after
[43:11] Speaker 10: spending 13 years or more than 13 years in the
[43:14] Speaker 10: uniform in law enforcement, I would hope that I would
[43:19] Speaker 10: never put myself in a position to prejudge an investigation
[43:22] Speaker 10: and declare a crime.
[43:24] Speaker 11: Maybe occurred where the.
[43:25] Speaker 10: Evidence hadn't necessarily established that, but they are making it really,
[43:28] Speaker 10: really difficult for folks around this country to not question
[43:32] Speaker 10: what they are doing or in this case, what they
[43:34] Speaker 10: are not doing. And with that, though, I do understand
[43:38] Speaker 10: something else from a law enforcement perspective. And that's that
[43:41] Speaker 10: unanswered questions don't disappear just because an investigation closes. And
[43:47] Speaker 10: that's something that our entire country should be looking at
[43:50] Speaker 10: right now.
[43:51] Speaker 11: There is a I use this in the last in
[43:53] Speaker 11: the last segment.
[43:54] Speaker 10: There is a responsibility both. legal responsibility, and moral responsibility
[43:59] Speaker 10: of our federal government to step in in cases like this.
[44:02] Speaker 10: Because if, in fact, the investigators did get it right,
[44:05] Speaker 10: then transparency should matter. It actually means that the confidence
[44:09] Speaker 10: in the police department and confidence in the investigators should
[44:12] Speaker 10: increase if that's the case.
[44:13] Speaker 11: So then an independent review and a federal.
[44:16] Speaker 10: Review should give us an opportunity to find answers for
[44:18] Speaker 10: this family, which they deserve.
[44:21] Speaker 1: And let me remind people as well, if you had
[44:26] Speaker 1: a different U.S. attorney, guess what? They could actually open
[44:30] Speaker 1: an investigation. Who appoints U.S. attorneys? The occupant of the
[44:34] Speaker 1: White House. Who confirms U.S. attorneys? United States Senate. So
[44:40] Speaker 1: all y'all people, let me real clear, because see, there
[44:44] Speaker 1: was some yahoos out there on the Congo who were
[44:47] Speaker 1: demanding a federal investigation in this case who were the
[44:51] Speaker 1: same people telling folk not to vote. There was some
[44:55] Speaker 1: people who were yelling, there was people who were yelling,
[44:58] Speaker 1: don't vote for Kamala because she the same as Trump.
[45:02] Speaker 1: But now they're demanding a federal investigation into Nolan Wells' death.
[45:07] Speaker 1: And I can guarantee you, if Kamala Harris was sitting
[45:10] Speaker 1: in the White House, there'd be a federal investigation. So
[45:14] Speaker 1: I need all the people out there who are watching
[45:15] Speaker 1: and listening, be mindful of the people who you listen
[45:19] Speaker 1: to who tell you don't vote. Because again, There are
[45:23] Speaker 1: people who have been demanding a federal investigation into the
[45:28] Speaker 1: death of Nolan Wells, who would assign people telling black
[45:32] Speaker 1: people not to vote for Kamala Harris. Yeah.
[45:37] Speaker 4: And they got some.
[45:39] Speaker 12: If they had enough integrity, they would publicly recognize how
[45:43] Speaker 12: wrong they are.
[45:44] Speaker 4: You know, the late Dr.
[45:45] Speaker 12: Jim Madison used to talk about all the time, whether
[45:47] Speaker 12: we're talking about dog catchers, school board, like get out
[45:50] Speaker 12: and vote. They control every aspect of the process. You're
[45:52] Speaker 12: actually going to be going to Todd Blanchard to beg him.
[45:56] Speaker 12: to open an investigation into this. Voting has consequences. We
[46:00] Speaker 12: should have realized this once Trump got his three Supreme
[46:02] Speaker 12: Court picks. Like, at every single level, this is what
[46:05] Speaker 12: they're going to do. And so the disconnect between those
[46:07] Speaker 12: who protest and don't vote is one of the reasons.
[46:11] Speaker 4: Why we're here today.
[46:12] Speaker 12: As we talked about multiple times on this show, many
[46:14] Speaker 12: times on this show, the biggest voting block in the
[46:16] Speaker 12: last election was the non-voter, 90 million people who stayed home,
[46:20] Speaker 12: more than those who voted for Kamala and those who
[46:21] Speaker 12: voted for Trump. And we're seeing the consequences of it.
[46:24] Speaker 12: Whether we're talking about this particular case right now, there
[46:27] Speaker 12: would have been somebody on that case within 12 hours
[46:29] Speaker 12: if Kamala wasn't charged. But whether we're talking about this case,
[46:33] Speaker 12: whether we're talking about all of the things that Harmeet
[46:34] Speaker 12: Dhillon is doing with the Department of Justice and these
[46:37] Speaker 12: segregation cases and the like, You could run down so
[46:40] Speaker 12: many areas where if we had the right leadership and
[46:43] Speaker 12: the right people in place, but it all comes from voting, y'all.
[46:47] Speaker 4: I repeat, it all comes from voting. And here's the
[46:50] Speaker 4: other thing, roll and shoot.
[46:51] Speaker 12: There's only going to be more cases like this between
[46:54] Speaker 12: now and 2028. Let's also talk about all of the
[46:57] Speaker 12: other children that we're losing who are being lynched across
[47:00] Speaker 12: this country. And no investigations are being found, are being
[47:03] Speaker 12: conducted all across this country. Again, something that would not
[47:06] Speaker 12: happen if the woman that y'all said was not black
[47:09] Speaker 12: enough was president right now.
[47:11] Speaker 4: And folks got to own that.
[47:13] Speaker 1: Yeah. I just want to remind y'all. There were multiple.
[47:17] Speaker 1: I need everybody who is watching and listening right now
[47:21] Speaker 1: to understand. There were multiple black people. on YouTube, on radio,
[47:30] Speaker 1: doing TV interviews, posted on social, who were questioning the
[47:36] Speaker 1: blackness of Kamala Harris, who was saying, oh, she ain't
[47:39] Speaker 1: nothing but a cop. They were literally saying that Trump
[47:43] Speaker 1: and Kamala were the same. There were people who were saying, nah, man,
[47:47] Speaker 1: I ain't supporting her because of Israel and Gaza. Okay.
[47:54] Speaker 1: Got it. But now, Y'all want the white supremacist, white
[48:01] Speaker 1: nationalist administration that does not believe in systemic racism, that
[48:08] Speaker 1: said they're going to give cops 100% immunity. That's the
[48:14] Speaker 1: same one y'all are demanding a federal investigation from. And
[48:22] Speaker 1: we told y'all elections have consequences. We told y'all that
[48:31] Speaker 1: don't look at this election in a narrow way. We
[48:36] Speaker 1: told y'all that there were more patterns and practices investigations
[48:44] Speaker 1: under Biden Harris than even existed under Trump and Pence.
[48:52] Speaker 1: So y'all actually thought that This administration is going to
[49:00] Speaker 1: give a damn about a black kid down in Mississippi? Really?
[49:09] Speaker 2: Never cared.
[49:11] Speaker 1: Really? And let me help you all out. Even if
[49:16] Speaker 1: the Senate led by Republicans never cared. confirmed, let's say,
[49:22] Speaker 1: a Kamala Harris U.S. attorney appointee for Mississippi, Washington DOJ
[49:30] Speaker 1: could still launch an investigation. It doesn't require the U.S.
[49:35] Speaker 1: attorney there being in Mississippi to So I just want
[49:39] Speaker 1: y'all to be mindful of the black people who said
[49:45] Speaker 1: don't vote for Hillary in 2016, but now they complain
[49:50] Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court. The black folks who told you
[49:59] Speaker 1: don't vote for Kamala because she the exact same as Trump.
[50:05] Speaker 1: Or the people who said, no, she ain't good. I
[50:08] Speaker 1: want all those people. I want all y'all to go
[50:11] Speaker 1: back and say, oh, but now y'all complain about cuts.
[50:17] Speaker 1: Now y'all complain about USAID. Now y'all complain about civil rights.
[50:23] Speaker 1: Now y'all complain about the cuts that Trump is making
[50:27] Speaker 1: to black-owned businesses. Go back and pull what all those
[50:32] Speaker 1: folks said. the folks who were running their miles on
[50:34] Speaker 1: YouTube channels, people who were running their miles on radio,
[50:38] Speaker 1: running their miles on television, running their miles on social media,
[50:42] Speaker 1: these keyboard warriors, go back and see what they said
[50:45] Speaker 1: and now hear what they're saying and then go, hmm, hmm,
[50:54] Speaker 1: sounding to me like a whole different tune. Y'all, when
[50:59] Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to talk about a grocery
[51:02] Speaker 1: store co-op in Michigan that's having some serious financial issues.
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[54:42] Speaker 1: Folks, we talk a lot about food deserts in Detroit.
[54:45] Speaker 1: They were trying to solve this problem with a black
[54:47] Speaker 1: led grocery store. Unfortunately, facing significant financial challenges because of
[54:51] Speaker 1: low revenue, rising operating costs. management turnover, and crippling food inflation.
[54:56] Speaker 1: It's called the Detroit People's Food Co-op. They have launched
[55:01] Speaker 1: a fundraising campaign to address some of these issues. The
[55:05] Speaker 1: board president is Lene Williams. She joins us right now. Lene,
[55:08] Speaker 1: glad to have you here. First and foremost, when did
[55:11] Speaker 1: this grocery store open?
[55:14] Speaker 2: It opened May 1st, 2024.
[55:16] Speaker 1: So you've been open a little more than two years.
[55:20] Speaker 1: And where exactly is it located in the community that
[55:25] Speaker 1: it is serving? How many people in that area?
[55:30] Speaker 2: So it is located about 10 miles.
[55:33] Speaker 20: 10 minutes from downtown. It's at 8324 Woodward Avenue off
[55:40] Speaker 20: the main street in Detroit. And, Roland, I can't tell
[55:49] Speaker 20: you right now how many people are in this area
[55:53] Speaker 20: because this area is shifting. We have new residents moving
[55:58] Speaker 20: into the area. Many new residents moving into the area.
[56:02] Speaker 1: So we look at, so give us a sense of
[56:05] Speaker 1: in this area, in this area you're located, in terms
[56:08] Speaker 1: of what is the nearest grocery store to where you're located?
[56:15] Speaker 2: So we have one grocery store. It's a few blocks down.
[56:20] Speaker 2: And then the other grocery stores are miles in all directions.
[56:27] Speaker 20: So this neighborhood has had this one grocery store for
[56:32] Speaker 20: quite some time.
[56:34] Speaker 14: Okay.
[56:35] Speaker 1: All right, and so walk us through how, what was
[56:41] Speaker 1: the vision in terms of being able to support this?
[56:44] Speaker 1: And so obviously, so one, you have members. So that's
[56:51] Speaker 1: one way. Are only members allowed to shop there? Is
[56:54] Speaker 1: anybody allowed to shop there? Walk us through that.
[56:59] Speaker 20: So the vision for the Detroit People's Food Co-op was
[57:03] Speaker 20: to serve the community in two ways. Number one, to
[57:09] Speaker 20: help create a system of Black food sovereignty here in
[57:12] Speaker 20: the city of Detroit. As most know, Detroit is a
[57:16] Speaker 20: primarily Black city, but it does not govern its food system.
[57:22] Speaker 2: It does not own the majority of grocery stores in
[57:24] Speaker 2: the area.
[57:26] Speaker 20: So we have no say-so over who, what stores connect
[57:31] Speaker 20: with what farmers, the products that they carry, the standards
[57:36] Speaker 20: that they have.
[57:37] Speaker 2: So that's first and foremost.
[57:40] Speaker 20: And when we say Black-led, we mean that we are
[57:44] Speaker 20: committed to centering the needs of the Black community in
[57:50] Speaker 20: Detroit People's Food Co-op. Second to that is providing a
[57:54] Speaker 20: community-owned grocery store. Detroit People's Food Co-op is our city's
[58:00] Speaker 20: only community-owned grocery store where residents of any ethnicity can
[58:07] Speaker 20: actually own and assist in governing the grocery store. And
[58:12] Speaker 20: so we do have Over 5,000 member owners of our
[58:18] Speaker 20: store from all over the state of Michigan. The majority,
[58:22] Speaker 20: of course, are here in the city of Detroit. And
[58:27] Speaker 20: our store is not exclusively for member owners. The entire
[58:32] Speaker 20: community can shop in our store.
[58:34] Speaker 1: So, again, you had this plan of action that you
[58:38] Speaker 1: laid out here. When did the problems start? And as
[58:42] Speaker 1: you were, listen, like any other business, you have a
[58:44] Speaker 1: business plan. And what then began to happen? How did
[58:47] Speaker 1: you arrive at this at this at this serious issue?
[58:54] Speaker 2: So we, of course, we're. pretty much a toddler, right?
[58:59] Speaker 20: So we've been open a little over two years, although
[59:03] Speaker 20: we'd been 15 years in the making, we have had
[59:07] Speaker 20: all of our analysts and consultants and all of our,
[59:12] Speaker 20: you know, all the numbers crunch for the store to open.
[59:15] Speaker 20: And we knew that we would not be in a
[59:18] Speaker 20: profitable year for a number of years. But what this
[59:23] Speaker 20: means is that we were always expecting for the first
[59:28] Speaker 20: few years to break even.
[59:31] Speaker 1: When you say the first few years, how many years?
[59:36] Speaker 2: Six.
[59:37] Speaker 1: Okay. So you're expecting to break even.
[59:38] Speaker 2: Expecting to be in a profitable year in year six.
[59:40] Speaker 1: You're expecting to break even for the first five years
[59:42] Speaker 1: and be profitable by year six.
[59:45] Speaker 13: Yes.
[59:46] Speaker 1: Okay. So you're more than two years in. What happened?
[59:51] Speaker 20: So what happened is we hit a patch where Around June, July,
[59:57] Speaker 20: we had what I call a perfect storm to occur.
[1:00:02] Speaker 20: We had a great dip in sales because of Canada's wildfires.
[1:00:08] Speaker 20: So a number of residents were not even coming out
[1:00:11] Speaker 20: of their homes for quite some time.
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: And then we had a few days.
[1:00:16] Speaker 20: Of 90 plus degree weather, meaning residents were continuing not
[1:00:21] Speaker 20: to leave home for quite some time.
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: And then we had a power outage.
[1:00:26] Speaker 20: And our new manager of our store, interestingly, got into
[1:00:32] Speaker 20: a motorcycle accident and broke his hip.
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: All of this in the same month. It was a lot.
[1:00:42] Speaker 20: And for a new business, that can cause quite a
[1:00:45] Speaker 20: bit of challenges.
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: So where one week has maybe a bit lower.
[1:00:51] Speaker 20: Number of customers and lower sales, then that means that
[1:00:56] Speaker 20: we have less to spend on our inventory for the
[1:00:59] Speaker 20: next week. And that continues to build up because we
[1:01:03] Speaker 20: are indeed an independent grocery store.
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: OK. And so now you are embarking on a fundraising
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: campaign to support. What's the goal?
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: The goal.
[1:01:20] Speaker 20: Is $ 155, 000, and we plan to reach that goal in
[1:01:24] Speaker 20: a number of ways. Right now, we're asking all of
[1:01:28] Speaker 20: our shoppers to spend an extra $ 10 when they come
[1:01:33] Speaker 20: into the store. Lately, we have about the same number
[1:01:39] Speaker 20: that we've been having since we opened, the same number
[1:01:42] Speaker 20: of customers to come in.
[1:01:44] Speaker 2: But the basket sizes are smaller.
[1:01:46] Speaker 20: So their transaction amounts are a bit smaller, which is
[1:01:50] Speaker 20: expected when you have less products on the shelf. So
[1:01:54] Speaker 20: we're in a process, of course, every single week that
[1:01:57] Speaker 20: sales grows of restocking our shelves. And so we're asking
[1:02:02] Speaker 20: customers to spend an extra $ 10.
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: We have a non-voting.
[1:02:07] Speaker 20: Investment certificate opportunity that's open to non-members and members alike
[1:02:14] Speaker 20: to be able to invest over $ 1, 000 in the co-op
[1:02:19] Speaker 20: without receiving any additional votes in the governance of the co-op.
[1:02:25] Speaker 20: And we're doing a membership campaign to increase our membership
[1:02:29] Speaker 20: by 500 members.
[1:02:31] Speaker 1: Okay, so let me walk through something. Okay, so you
[1:02:33] Speaker 1: have this grocery store. What is your yearly burn rate?
[1:02:35] Speaker 1: We make about $ 4 million, and we're burning through.
[1:02:37] Speaker 15: About $ 40, 000 to $ 50, 000 a month.
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: Okay. One second. I'm trying to understand.
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: So you're generating $ 4 million in revenue annually. Yes. So
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: your first year. Your first year.
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: For our first year.
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: Okay. For your first year, what was your loss in
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: your first year?
[1:03:18] Speaker 20: Our loss in our first year was about $ 700, 000.
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: Okay. $ 700, 000 loss in the first year.
[1:03:23] Speaker 2: Which we expected.
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: Okay. Got it.
[1:03:25] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: And what was your loss in the second year?
[1:03:32] Speaker 20: It was higher than what we expected. So that was
[1:03:36] Speaker 20: about 900,000.
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: All right. So that's 1.6 million, um, uh, in the hole. Okay. That, that, that, that,
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: that you've actually lost. So, so, so far in 2026, um, um, uh,
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: what has you, what has your been lost? What is
[1:03:51] Speaker 1: your loss?
[1:03:54] Speaker 2: So far in 2026, we're down quite a bit.
[1:03:57] Speaker 20: Um, So our let's see the way, Roland, that we
[1:04:06] Speaker 20: count our losses and gains are by our fiscal year,
[1:04:10] Speaker 20: which starts in October 1st.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: So we've just started a new fiscal year.
[1:04:16] Speaker 1: OK, gotcha. So from October to October, what was your loss?
[1:04:23] Speaker 20: From October last to this October was about $ 900, 000.
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: All right.
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: So we're talking about now $ 2. 5 million. And so I
[1:04:32] Speaker 1: would assume that you have a contingency fund. So what
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand, again, I'm asking these questions.
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:04:43] Speaker 1: If you lost $ 2. 5 million, but you're trying to raise,
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: you said $ 155, 000. Okay. That's what I'm trying to understand.
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: If your burn rate is 50 grand a month and
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: you raise $ 155, 000, that money is only going to get
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: you through almost four months.
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: So our.
[1:05:10] Speaker 20: Business model is set up like any other cooperative to
[1:05:14] Speaker 20: rely on sales.
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: We Our sales have already been increasing.
[1:05:21] Speaker 20: So our sales to carry us through this fiscal year
[1:05:26] Speaker 20: would be about 73,000 a week.
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: We hit in July sales as low as 40,000. Got it.
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: So that's about negative 40,000. So right. So what I'm
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: trying to understand, if you're trying to raise 155,000, what
[1:05:39] Speaker 1: does that 155,000 cover? My point is, the reason I'm
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: saying this here, so, okay, let's say you raise $ 155, 000.
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: All right, let's say in six months, you're back in
[1:05:58] Speaker 1: the same position. So, what does raising the $ 155, 000 actually
[1:06:03] Speaker 1: do for you?
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: The $ 155, 000 right now helps us to stock the shelves.
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: That tends to be the number one reason that we
[1:06:14] Speaker 2: have lower sales is when our shelves are not stocked.
[1:06:19] Speaker 20: Again, we have a customer base that consistently comes in
[1:06:24] Speaker 20: even when they cannot.
[1:06:26] Speaker 2: Find all of the items.
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:06:28] Speaker 10: Right?
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: So we just want to stock the shelves. Okay. So
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: what you need is, again, let me just... So you
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: need $ 155, 000 to completely stock the shelves? Is that to
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: be at maximum capacity in terms of having your groceries,
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: your eggs, your canned goods, everything? Is that $ 155, 000 completely
[1:06:49] Speaker 1: stocked to shelves?
[1:06:52] Speaker 2: It completely stocks the shelves and it gives us a
[1:06:55] Speaker 2: bit more.
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: Okay. So if you raise that $ 155, 000 to completely stock
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: the shelves... Um, what then it's so again, I'm, I'm,
[1:07:06] Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm just looking at numbers. Uh, and, and,
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: and also what's jumping out at me is, is your,
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: is your ass too low? So I'm trying to understand if,
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: if you're one 55 is Dr. Shells, uh, how, let's
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: just say how long will it take to clear those shelves?
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: It will take, uh, and we are, we're ordering every
[1:07:31] Speaker 2: single week.
[1:07:32] Speaker 20: Um, so let's say every three months we're running through, um,
[1:07:39] Speaker 20: there's a cycle all over again where we're replacing all
[1:07:43] Speaker 20: of those things, you know, and I'm saying on average,
[1:07:45] Speaker 20: cause again, we're replacing groceries, replacing inventory every single week.
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:07:50] Speaker 20: And so that one 55, that's a fundraiser to the
[1:07:54] Speaker 20: end of November just to catch up. However, again, sales
[1:08:00] Speaker 20: would kick in. And again, sales have already went close
[1:08:06] Speaker 20: up to where they should be. Last week, they were
[1:08:08] Speaker 20: at 65,000 in.
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: That one week.
[1:08:12] Speaker 20: But we are talking about where some cooperatives just consistently
[1:08:17] Speaker 20: do fundraising. Right now, we're just doing this fundraiser to
[1:08:22] Speaker 20: see how it is we navigate This this current type
[1:08:27] Speaker 20: of fundraising projects as a community.
[1:08:31] Speaker 1: No, I understand. Again, I mean, listen, we've got thousands
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: of people watching. And listen, we had the Heritage Museum
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: who was on here. They had a break in and
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: we push it on social and we raised nearly one
[1:08:43] Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for them. And that took place in
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: two weeks. So, but what I'm trying to get at
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: is like, if I look at right now, you have
[1:08:51] Speaker 1: a GoFundMe, you set a goal of $ 20, 000 on GoFundMe,
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: you've raised $ 31, 750. The question I have is, is, why
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: did you set $ 20, 000? And the reason I'm asking these questions,
[1:09:04] Speaker 1: if you're saying that $ 155, 000 allows you to completely stock
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: the shelves, and so what I'm interested in, in terms
[1:09:10] Speaker 1: of how do you burn that off, I'm sitting here thinking,
[1:09:14] Speaker 1: would you not be trying to raise, let's say, $ 500, 000,
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: which now gives you the opportunity to have three months
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: of money to completely stock your shelves, let's say, for November, December,
[1:09:29] Speaker 1: and January. And then the other question is, right now,
[1:09:33] Speaker 1: you have members. What does it cost to be a member?
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: It costs $ 200 to be a member. Okay, $ 200. That's
[1:09:42] Speaker 1: for a lifetime. That's for a lifetime?
[1:09:45] Speaker 2: That's for a lifetime. That is.
[1:09:48] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:09:48] Speaker 2: So I'll explain something to you.
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: Okay, hold on. Hold on, hold on. I'm going through.
[1:09:52] Speaker 20: Members.
[1:09:52] Speaker 1: Okay, you got it. So it's $ 200 for a lifetime.
[1:09:56] Speaker 1: How many members do you have?
[1:09:57] Speaker 11: That's right.
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: We have a little over 5,000.
[1:10:00] Speaker 1: Okay, you have 5,000 members. Okay, 5,000 members. Do you
[1:10:03] Speaker 1: have monthly members? We have, no.
[1:10:12] Speaker 2: We have lifetime members.
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: All right. So if I'm a member, what do I
[1:10:14] Speaker 1: get for being a member?
[1:10:17] Speaker 20: The primary thing that members are getting right now is
[1:10:21] Speaker 20: an opportunity to be a part of the governance of
[1:10:24] Speaker 20: the store and of the organization.
[1:10:26] Speaker 2: They get periodic discounts. They can join various committees.
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: Okay, so do they get... So let's say if they're...
[1:10:34] Speaker 1: So you don't have, let's say, discounts built into the
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: membership if they actually shop there every single month?
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: Nope, they're periodic discounts. Most cooperatives are offering.
[1:10:50] Speaker 20: Discounts maybe quarterly or on member owner appreciation days, so yeah,
[1:10:57] Speaker 20: they're not just a consistent discount as a member owner.
[1:11:00] Speaker 1: Okay. All right. Got it. Okay. The other question I have,
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: my panel has questions as well. I'm ready. So if
[1:11:08] Speaker 1: you're sitting here, so if you've raised $ 31, 750 on GoFundMe,
[1:11:10] Speaker 1: you're still trying to raise an additional.
[1:11:13] Speaker 15: $ 124, 000.
[1:11:13] Speaker 1: What are you raising per month? through your website. And
[1:11:26] Speaker 1: if I go to your, give me one second, don't
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: go to my iPad yet. If I go to your
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: website to donate and I click donate now, what are
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: the different ways I can give? Like I'm right now.
[1:11:42] Speaker 1: So what payments do you accept to donate?
[1:11:48] Speaker 2: We accept all debit cards. to donate.
[1:11:50] Speaker 20: We have some residents who come into the store and
[1:11:53] Speaker 20: they donate in cash, but again, the non-voting investment certificates,
[1:11:58] Speaker 20: we can take in donations anywhere from one, I mean,
[1:12:01] Speaker 20: investments anywhere from 1000 to a million dollars.
[1:12:05] Speaker 15: Right.
[1:12:05] Speaker 18: No, no, no.
[1:12:05] Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if I chose to donate through
[1:12:07] Speaker 1: your website right now, do you take PayPal, Venmo, Zelle,
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: Cash App, credit cards, you take all of that Apple Pay?
[1:12:16] Speaker 2: We take all of that. We take all of that.
[1:12:18] Speaker 1: Okay, the only reason I'm asking is because I don't
[1:12:20] Speaker 1: see that on the donate button. I'm hearing you. So
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: if I fill out, so just my suggestion, on the donate,
[1:12:28] Speaker 1: when you click donate now, you click donate now and
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: it goes to this page. This page needs to show
[1:12:35] Speaker 1: here all the ways that you can actually give, because otherwise,
[1:12:39] Speaker 1: if I go through and fill in all this information,
[1:12:42] Speaker 1: then and then I get to get to click, click, click, submit.
[1:12:46] Speaker 1: And then how I want to give isn't on here.
[1:12:49] Speaker 1: I just wasted a whole bunch of time in doing so.
[1:12:51] Speaker 1: I'm going to go to my panel. I'm going to
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: go to my panel with the questions. And let's see.
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: I'm going to start. Shauna, you first.
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:13:00] Speaker 13: So as I was listening to you talk, I immediately
[1:13:04] Speaker 13: thought of the Black Church Food Security Network and the
[1:13:08] Speaker 13: connection that you probably are already aware of in terms
[1:13:11] Speaker 13: of being a part of the larger food sovereignty ecosystem.
[1:13:14] Speaker 13: So I'm really just curious, what do you tangibly need?
[1:13:19] Speaker 13: to sustainably stock the shelves because the numbers game of donating,
[1:13:26] Speaker 13: it does not sound sustainable. And so when you think
[1:13:29] Speaker 13: about food sovereignty and the larger ecosystem in Detroit, what
[1:13:33] Speaker 13: are things, because I'm a pastor in La Plata, Maryland,
[1:13:37] Speaker 13: what are things that the pastors in Detroit could perhaps
[1:13:41] Speaker 13: do to help with the sustainability question or some other
[1:13:45] Speaker 13: thoughts that you have around that?
[1:13:48] Speaker 20: So some of the faith-based organizations here in the city
[1:13:52] Speaker 20: are already starting to encourage their members and their congregations
[1:14:00] Speaker 20: to shop in the store. One of the things that
[1:14:03] Speaker 20: we've not done is we haven't had large commercials here
[1:14:09] Speaker 20: in the city. We've had a few features posted. in
[1:14:14] Speaker 20: the media since we opened. And the basic stats for
[1:14:18] Speaker 20: any cooperative in any city across the US is about 20%
[1:14:22] Speaker 20: of the residents in that city even know that a
[1:14:25] Speaker 20: co-op is there or what a co-op is.
[1:14:28] Speaker 2: And we found that same in the city of Detroit.
[1:14:31] Speaker 20: It's really about explaining and getting the word out about
[1:14:35] Speaker 20: what a cooperative is. We still have community residents that
[1:14:38] Speaker 20: come in and ask, are you a pantry? Because the
[1:14:41] Speaker 20: front of the store says Detroit People's Food Co-op and
[1:14:43] Speaker 20: Detroit is not used to having a co-op. They hear
[1:14:47] Speaker 20: about a membership and they're asking, well, do I have
[1:14:51] Speaker 20: to be a member to shop there? Because at Costco
[1:14:52] Speaker 20: and Sam's Club, you have to be a member. It's
[1:14:55] Speaker 20: really about closing the gap in education. So again, you have,
[1:14:59] Speaker 20: for example, the Nation of Islam, they put out a
[1:15:04] Speaker 20: call to have 100 members of the NOI to shop
[1:15:12] Speaker 20: at the co-op this Tuesday at a certain time. So
[1:15:16] Speaker 20: we have a lot of faith-based organizations who are now
[1:15:19] Speaker 20: hearing about the co-op and we're not aware that the
[1:15:23] Speaker 20: co-op existed that's now starting.
[1:15:25] Speaker 2: To flood the co-op.
[1:15:27] Speaker 20: We've already increased our customers from 3,000 and 3,500 every
[1:15:31] Speaker 20: week to the month of September, around 17th, we had
[1:15:33] Speaker 20: 5,300 member owners.
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: I mean, 5,300 customers. Last week alone, we had 4,800
[1:15:35] Speaker 2: customers to come in.
[1:15:50] Speaker 1: The Michigan Chronicle did a story and also local media
[1:15:54] Speaker 1: has been covering this story. And so you've had flash mobs.
[1:15:57] Speaker 1: You have people who buy gift cards as well. And
[1:16:00] Speaker 1: so since y'all came out and told this story, the
[1:16:03] Speaker 1: community has indeed been responding. Let me go to Ome Congo.
[1:16:09] Speaker 12: Well, thank you so much for your efforts and your
[1:16:11] Speaker 12: work in the community. I want to go back to
[1:16:13] Speaker 12: the very beginning of your segment here with Roland and
[1:16:16] Speaker 12: Can you just speak a little bit more about the
[1:16:18] Speaker 12: impact of what could happen if you are not able
[1:16:21] Speaker 12: to keep your doors open as it relates to the
[1:16:23] Speaker 12: actual impact on the community for those out there who
[1:16:26] Speaker 12: are thinking about supporting and really want to know what
[1:16:29] Speaker 12: could happen if you weren't there?
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: The greatest thing, of course, is that.
[1:16:41] Speaker 20: We will have in the city of Detroit less representation
[1:16:47] Speaker 20: of the community members here, less access to fresh fruits,
[1:16:53] Speaker 20: fresh vegetables in our area. We're the only grocery store
[1:16:57] Speaker 20: in our area, and that includes a grocery store that's
[1:16:59] Speaker 20: nearby that accepts WIC. So the Women's Infant and Children's Program,
[1:17:07] Speaker 20: we accept SNAP and EBT benefits. That means less access
[1:17:13] Speaker 20: to healthy, to affordable, to culturally relevant food.
[1:17:18] Speaker 2: In this area.
[1:17:20] Speaker 20: And again, no ownership of community residents in our food
[1:17:25] Speaker 20: system if there is no food co-op in the city
[1:17:28] Speaker 20: of Detroit.
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: Julian?
[1:17:34] Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you again for the work that you're doing.
[1:17:36] Speaker 10: It's so vital to communities just like yours. I want
[1:17:39] Speaker 10: to preface my question by saying I think um, there
[1:17:45] Speaker 10: are maybe some missed opportunities and, and maybe this question
[1:17:48] Speaker 10: can answer some of this, but there might be some
[1:17:50] Speaker 10: missed opportunities in your area, um, when it comes to
[1:17:54] Speaker 10: economic development. And we have to, as black business owners, uh,
[1:17:57] Speaker 10: understand that sustainability is just one issue when it comes
[1:18:01] Speaker 10: to economic power. Uh, we also need to look at
[1:18:04] Speaker 10: the institutions having access to capital. So prefacing the question
[1:18:08] Speaker 10: to say, um, Have you spoken with the SBDC or
[1:18:12] Speaker 10: the SBA to see.
[1:18:14] Speaker 11: What long term funding would look like?
[1:18:16] Speaker 10: Because with the numbers that you just gave me, you know,
[1:18:19] Speaker 10: a six month emergency plan is probably one point seven,
[1:18:23] Speaker 10: one point eight million dollars.
[1:18:25] Speaker 11: And I definitely think you're shooting it too low to
[1:18:27] Speaker 11: echo Roland's sentiment.
[1:18:28] Speaker 10: So have you spoken with those experts, with the federal
[1:18:30] Speaker 10: government to see if there's any USDA grants available or
[1:18:33] Speaker 10: anything like that?
[1:18:36] Speaker 2: We've not.
[1:18:36] Speaker 20: We've gone for different, we've received different grants. We have
[1:18:44] Speaker 20: a low amount of loans, but we've not looked into.
[1:18:48] Speaker 2: Things like that.
[1:18:49] Speaker 20: I know that our fundraising committee did when we first opened,
[1:18:53] Speaker 20: but I also know just from speaking to policymakers here
[1:18:58] Speaker 20: in the city of Detroit, because I'm also the executive
[1:19:02] Speaker 20: director of the Detroit Food Policy Council, and speaking to
[1:19:06] Speaker 20: policymakers in Detroit, Um, you have to be very careful
[1:19:10] Speaker 20: and this is what they've said to me a number
[1:19:12] Speaker 20: of times, uh, when applying for grants about saying things
[1:19:17] Speaker 20: like black or black led or food sovereignty, um, and being.
[1:19:22] Speaker 2: Careful in how we word those different things.
[1:19:25] Speaker 20: It's not something in our business model that we plan
[1:19:27] Speaker 20: to stop saying anytime soon or really at all, because
[1:19:30] Speaker 20: that's why we opened. Um, but those are definitely things
[1:19:34] Speaker 20: that we can look at again. And in terms of
[1:19:38] Speaker 20: the amount that we're raising right now, what we've had
[1:19:41] Speaker 20: to do is also take into consideration where we are.
[1:19:45] Speaker 20: We did not, and this is why our membership is
[1:19:48] Speaker 20: so low. If our membership was much higher, then we
[1:19:53] Speaker 20: would pretty much exclude a lot of Detroiters from being
[1:19:58] Speaker 20: member owners of Detroit People's Food Co-op. We even have
[1:20:02] Speaker 20: a monthly membership, well, a payment for that $ 200 where
[1:20:07] Speaker 20: you can pay $ 20 over 10 months for your total $ 200.
[1:20:11] Speaker 20: We do, of course, notice that residents outside of the
[1:20:15] Speaker 20: city are quick.
[1:20:16] Speaker 2: To pay that $ 200 or just.
[1:20:18] Speaker 20: Have expendable money to invest in a business, in a
[1:20:25] Speaker 20: cooperative business. A lot of cities outside of Detroit knows
[1:20:29] Speaker 20: what a co-op is. A lot of Detroiters are not
[1:20:31] Speaker 20: fully understanding what a co-op is. So to ask a
[1:20:37] Speaker 20: community that's already stretched in a number of ways financially
[1:20:42] Speaker 20: to pour boatloads of money into a business model that
[1:20:45] Speaker 20: they're still really learning about, we've been kind of hesitant
[1:20:49] Speaker 20: to do that, which is why we have the non-voting
[1:20:51] Speaker 20: investment certificates that allow individuals and businesses all over the
[1:20:57] Speaker 20: state of Michigan to invest between $ 1, 000 and $ 1 million.
[1:21:00] Speaker 1: All right, so everybody who's watching, again, you can go
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: to DetroitPeople'sFoodCoop.com, DetroitPeople'sFoodCoop.com to get more information. Again, they have
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: the GoFundMe link. They've hit their goal there as well.
[1:21:11] Speaker 1: So y'all be sure to check it out. And again,
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: we understand food deserts and how critically important they are
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: to so many different neighborhoods. And so, Lene, hope y'all
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: are able to hit your goal.
[1:21:25] Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And thanks for the tips and
[1:21:27] Speaker 2: wisdom you've offered since I've been here.
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. All right, folks, got
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[1:25:11] Speaker 8: Good morning brother just reaching out to say happy anniversary
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[1:25:42] Speaker 1: Talk to my producer during the break. Black Georgia mom
[1:25:53] Speaker 1: upset after Republican gubernatorial candidate Rick Jackson used a picture
[1:25:57] Speaker 1: of her eight-year-old murdered daughter on a campaign mailer. 25-year-old
[1:26:02] Speaker 1: Julian Conley shot and killed Sequoia Turner in 2020 during
[1:26:06] Speaker 1: civil unrest as she slept in the back of her mother,
[1:26:08] Speaker 1: Charmaine Turner's Jeep. The shooting happened as Turner turned around
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: at a barricaded intersection in Atlanta. The man shot into
[1:26:14] Speaker 1: the vehicle eight times. He's currently serving life in prison
[1:26:16] Speaker 1: without parole. Now, Jackson used Sequoia's photo to attack his
[1:26:20] Speaker 1: Democratic opponent, former Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms. Turner, who's
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: also suing Bottoms over how the case was handled, is
[1:26:27] Speaker 1: demanding Jackson remove the picture. However, under Georgia and federal law,
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: Jackson can use the child's photo. Here's what Turner said
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: about Jackson using this photo.
[1:26:39] Speaker 2: My daughter is not a political tool.
[1:26:43] Speaker 15: Or talking point, a campaign talking point.
[1:26:48] Speaker 1: A spokesperson for Bottom's campaign said Jackson uses Sequoia on
[1:26:52] Speaker 1: the mail or quote the pain that Sequoia's family lives
[1:26:54] Speaker 1: with every day should never be exported for political purposes.
[1:26:58] Speaker 1: Not a week goes by that Keisha doesn't think about
[1:27:00] Speaker 1: Sequoia and her family and the unimaginable loss they continue
[1:27:03] Speaker 1: to carry. Some things should always be bigger than politics.
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: Jackson's campaign said, quote, we cannot imagine the immense pain
[1:27:09] Speaker 1: the Turner family has gone through. They're not a political
[1:27:11] Speaker 1: talking point. They are one of the major reasons why
[1:27:14] Speaker 1: Rick is running so that another family does not have
[1:27:16] Speaker 1: to experience such a devastating tragedy. Here's the problem here, Julian.
[1:27:20] Speaker 1: I don't recall in that statement. I don't hear them
[1:27:22] Speaker 1: saying they're going to take it down and not use it.
[1:27:25] Speaker 1: The mother is saying, do not use my daughter. The
[1:27:28] Speaker 1: Rick Jackson campaign is not addressing that issue.
[1:27:33] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:27:33] Speaker 10: You know, one of the things that we see from
[1:27:35] Speaker 10: Republicans across this entire country is that they they will
[1:27:38] Speaker 10: do anything to gain power. And that includes using the
[1:27:43] Speaker 10: face of a of a young black girl who was
[1:27:46] Speaker 10: murdered in the back of her her mom's vehicle. Here
[1:27:51] Speaker 10: is here is their thing. And we've heard it time
[1:27:54] Speaker 10: and time again. They believe just because it's legal, they
[1:27:57] Speaker 10: can do things. And I'm here to tell you that
[1:27:59] Speaker 10: just because something is legal, it can still be wrong.
[1:28:02] Speaker 10: We've seen that time and time again, of course, when
[1:28:04] Speaker 10: it comes to black folks here in this country.
[1:28:08] Speaker 4: I don't care.
[1:28:09] Speaker 10: And this is to say I don't care whether it's
[1:28:12] Speaker 10: a Republican or Democrat running for office after the candidate's name.
[1:28:17] Speaker 10: I don't think that a grieving parent should have to
[1:28:19] Speaker 10: discover their murdered child's face on a political piece of
[1:28:22] Speaker 10: literature that they've never approved. And so this person should
[1:28:26] Speaker 10: be called out. Excuse me for forgetting the other candidate's name.
[1:28:30] Speaker 10: It's not even worth remembering, to be honest with you,
[1:28:32] Speaker 10: after this. But I think that the federal government should
[1:28:35] Speaker 10: definitely put a stop to that. And in November, we
[1:28:38] Speaker 10: need to elect the people that's going to change that law.
[1:28:39] Speaker 11: Federally.
[1:28:40] Speaker 1: Sean, the bomb lines is here. Rick Jackson's campaign could
[1:28:43] Speaker 1: say we appreciate them. Well, the mom has to say
[1:28:46] Speaker 1: we will abide by her request. They have not.
[1:28:50] Speaker 13: Because they're absolutely being grimy at this point, because. It
[1:28:54] Speaker 13: is incomprehensible that we would see in 2026 a murdered child,
[1:29:02] Speaker 13: regardless of race. But I know a white little child
[1:29:04] Speaker 13: probably wouldn't be the poster child of anyone's campaign. But
[1:29:08] Speaker 13: it's absolutely inappropriate to utilize someone's baby for political fodder
[1:29:14] Speaker 13: and to try to get a leg up in a campaign,
[1:29:18] Speaker 13: especially someone who was murdered. So they could absolutely... Call
[1:29:24] Speaker 13: for the campaign mailer.
[1:29:25] Speaker 8: To be pulled.
[1:29:27] Speaker 13: And again, we can absolutely vote next month for people
[1:29:31] Speaker 13: to be elected who will not allow this to not
[1:29:34] Speaker 13: be illegal because it should be illegal to utilize children
[1:29:38] Speaker 13: that don't belong to you in ads and especially murdered children.
[1:29:43] Speaker 1: Ome Congo.
[1:29:46] Speaker 12: I mean, the only thing that upset me more when
[1:29:48] Speaker 12: I first heard the story was the actual statement by
[1:29:50] Speaker 12: his campaign. It's absolutely disgusting. And this is why it's
[1:29:54] Speaker 12: also important to be mindful of the fact of why
[1:29:57] Speaker 12: governor's races matter as well. We're talking about the Senate
[1:29:59] Speaker 12: and all these other areas as well. But we need
[1:30:01] Speaker 12: to get real leaders in the governor's governorship as well,
[1:30:04] Speaker 12: because these guys, whether we're talking Senate guys like Paxton
[1:30:07] Speaker 12: or gubernatorial candidates like this, They are classless, and they
[1:30:11] Speaker 12: don't care for the common person. And this should anger
[1:30:14] Speaker 12: enough people to get out there. When I think about
[1:30:16] Speaker 12: Newtown and all of these other shootings, these pictures of
[1:30:19] Speaker 12: these children are not shown without the parents' permission.
[1:30:22] Speaker 4: Period, bottom line.
[1:30:23] Speaker 12: Sometimes the names aren't even shown to Father Pan's permission.
[1:30:26] Speaker 12: But you can just go and disregard Black life and
[1:30:28] Speaker 12: think you're just going to pull that person and put
[1:30:29] Speaker 12: it up on an ad. As it was said just now,
[1:30:32] Speaker 12: they need to suffer the consequences for this lack of humanity.
[1:30:35] Speaker 12: They need to take it down. And I'm hoping that
[1:30:37] Speaker 12: somebody who is more knowledgeable of how these ad campaigns
[1:30:40] Speaker 12: work can get involved with her to help get that
[1:30:43] Speaker 12: ad taken down.
[1:30:44] Speaker 1: All right, folks. Nothing like Donald Trump continuing to lie.
[1:30:47] Speaker 1: Then what happens when your own AI tool... bust you
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: for lying. Last week, the idiot and his administration launched
[1:30:55] Speaker 1: the new AI-powered gateway to federal information and services, as
[1:31:01] Speaker 1: they say, a way to streamline America's interaction with the government.
[1:31:03] Speaker 1: The website features a chatbot-style interface that allows users to
[1:31:07] Speaker 1: ask questions about government programs, benefits, and services. Well, South
[1:31:11] Speaker 1: Carolina Congressman Jim Clyburn posted this video on social media
[1:31:15] Speaker 1: of him testing out Trump's new AI website.
[1:31:20] Speaker 15: 10.9 million. Higher income households benefit more. Interesting. Interesting. They've
[1:32:40] Speaker 15: rejected 2.1%, but there's actually 3.4%. Interesting. All right, y'all, we're.
[1:32:53] Speaker 1: Going to do this here. So roll the game, leave
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: my mic up, and just in case y'all could not
[1:32:59] Speaker 1: see what Clyburn was typing in, first of all, he
[1:33:03] Speaker 1: was typing pretty damn slow. Damn, Congressman. You're moving a
[1:33:06] Speaker 1: little slow. Use both them thumbs. All right. Roll it again.
[1:33:10] Speaker 1: Let me talk over. So roll a commercial. First of all.
[1:33:14] Speaker 1: Congressman Clyburn, he's typing in the website, this new AI site.
[1:33:20] Speaker 1: And so he saw this through on Politico. So you
[1:33:22] Speaker 1: see him type it in the actual government website name.
[1:33:29] Speaker 1: And so that's coming up. And then he's going to
[1:33:33] Speaker 1: type in how many fewer Americans will have health insurance
[1:33:37] Speaker 1: as a result of the one big, beautiful bill. And then,
[1:33:42] Speaker 1: of course, It spits out an answer. It says CBO projects.
[1:33:48] Speaker 1: Hold it right there. Freeze it. Freeze it. Come to
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: my iPad so you can see it. It says the
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: CBO projects that health coverage provisions in the one big,
[1:34:00] Speaker 1: beautiful bill would increase the number of people without health insurance.
[1:34:05] Speaker 1: Estimated 10.9 million more people without health insurance in 2024.
[1:34:10] Speaker 1: So that's what you go ahead and play the commercial.
[1:34:12] Speaker 1: We're going to set up the next one. And so
[1:34:15] Speaker 1: he so he he scrolled, he scrolled there. So it
[1:34:20] Speaker 1: says ten point nine million. Then he says that he
[1:34:23] Speaker 1: types in according to give me one second. Let me
[1:34:27] Speaker 1: roll it back. According to official government analysis, does the
[1:34:30] Speaker 1: one big, beautiful bill benefit high income or low income households?
[1:34:35] Speaker 15: OK.
[1:34:35] Speaker 1: All right. Roll a video. So you see him pressing that.
[1:34:40] Speaker 1: And then, of course, when it spits the answer out.
[1:34:43] Speaker 1: What it says is, hmm, guess what? It says thinking
[1:34:49] Speaker 1: and then come to my iPad. It says, according to CBO,
[1:34:52] Speaker 1: higher income households gain more in household resources than lower
[1:34:57] Speaker 1: income households when tax and spending changes are counted together.
[1:35:01] Speaker 1: CBO's analysis of public law 119-21 estimates that resources decrease
[1:35:07] Speaker 1: for households towards the bottom of of the income distribution
[1:35:10] Speaker 1: and increase for households in the middle and toward the top. Okay,
[1:35:14] Speaker 1: roll the video. Roll the video. So he's reading that.
[1:35:20] Speaker 15: Interesting.
[1:35:25] Speaker 1: So then he types in, according to the Federal Reserve,
[1:35:29] Speaker 1: have tariffs imposed since January 2025 increased inflation? What about
[1:35:34] Speaker 1: the Iran war? And then what does it do? It
[1:35:37] Speaker 1: spits the answer out. It says it says give one second.
[1:35:43] Speaker 1: It says, yes.
[1:35:45] Speaker 15: Hold on.
[1:35:46] Speaker 1: Roll it back. Yes, Federal Reserve reports and staff research
[1:35:50] Speaker 1: say 2025 tariff increases raised some consumer goods prices and
[1:35:55] Speaker 1: contributed to higher measured inflation. The July 2026 monetary policy
[1:36:00] Speaker 1: report says inflation moved up over the rest of 2025
[1:36:05] Speaker 1: amid signs that increases in tariffs on U.S. goods imports
[1:36:09] Speaker 1: had pushed up domestic prices for some consumer goods. Roll
[1:36:13] Speaker 1: the video.
[1:36:13] Speaker 15: Hmm. Interesting.
[1:36:24] Speaker 1: So he goes, for the 2026 inflation rate, what is
[1:36:30] Speaker 1: the actual latest measured rate? Is it lower or higher?
[1:36:35] Speaker 1: Then a roll of video. And then all of a
[1:36:39] Speaker 1: sudden what pops up in December 2024, CBO projected inflation.
[1:36:44] Speaker 1: the inflation being 2.1%. And then it then shows exactly
[1:36:52] Speaker 1: what the inflation rate was. And then it kicks it,
[1:36:56] Speaker 1: what the forecasts are. And then it says latest measured rate.
[1:37:02] Speaker 1: It is higher than those 2024 forecasts. It's 3.4% over
[1:37:07] Speaker 1: the 12 months. And then you hear him responding this way.
[1:37:11] Speaker 15: 2.1%. But it's actually 3.4%. Interesting.
[1:37:27] Speaker 1: Wow. Now, here's the thing here, Omi Congo. He was
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: typing slow, but that's a part of it. And all
[1:37:39] Speaker 1: you keep saying, Conor's a clobber. Interesting. So Trump's, the
[1:37:45] Speaker 1: Trump administration's own AI tool shows he's a liar and
[1:37:52] Speaker 1: it shows that inflation has increased. It shows that more
[1:37:58] Speaker 1: Americans will not have health coverage and it shows that
[1:38:01] Speaker 1: higher income households benefited from his so-called big, beautiful bill
[1:38:07] Speaker 1: than low income households. Yeah.
[1:38:12] Speaker 4: I mean, goodness gracious. I mean, I don't even know
[1:38:15] Speaker 4: where to start.
[1:38:16] Speaker 12: Well, I think what he needs to do is he
[1:38:17] Speaker 12: needs to contact Elon Musk because, you know, Elon Musk,
[1:38:20] Speaker 12: you know, fixed Grok in some way that made it
[1:38:22] Speaker 12: seem like he was as physically fit as LeBron James
[1:38:25] Speaker 12: or something to that effect, gave it some type of lobotomy.
[1:38:28] Speaker 12: And so as soon as Trump actually realizes, and I
[1:38:30] Speaker 12: think you could also put in information about the insurrection
[1:38:33] Speaker 12: January 6th and all of that, as soon as he
[1:38:35] Speaker 12: realized what's actually going on here, this thing is going
[1:38:37] Speaker 12: to be down so soon.
[1:38:39] Speaker 4: But I love Clyde Byrne's commercial.
[1:38:41] Speaker 12: He was just talking about a few weeks ago, like
[1:38:43] Speaker 12: how he kind of just discovered AI or something to
[1:38:45] Speaker 12: that effect. They can make so much content with this, Roland,
[1:38:49] Speaker 12: and they got to do it quick before they change
[1:38:50] Speaker 12: up all the algorithms. Like, all the Democrats can do,
[1:38:53] Speaker 12: they can just type in pretty much anything. Who's the
[1:38:56] Speaker 12: biggest grifter? You know, who's stealing the election? Who is,
[1:39:00] Speaker 12: you know, incorporating their sons.
[1:39:01] Speaker 4: On all of these boards? They can just run down it.
[1:39:03] Speaker 12: And if they make content like this, this is the
[1:39:06] Speaker 12: type of stuff that appeals to young people.
[1:39:08] Speaker 4: You know, throw a little bit of music on it.
[1:39:10] Speaker 12: But I hope they get it before the Trump administration
[1:39:13] Speaker 12: corrects it or takes it down. for quote unquote maintenance
[1:39:16] Speaker 12: like Elon Musk had to do.
[1:39:18] Speaker 1: Shonda?
[1:39:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I.
[1:39:23] Speaker 13: Do write a little bit around large language models and
[1:39:26] Speaker 13: the ethics of that. The AI is actually grabbing data
[1:39:31] Speaker 13: from places that occur on the internet. So as you
[1:39:35] Speaker 13: just said, Trump, the administration could add additional data to
[1:39:40] Speaker 13: the algorithm that suggests that this is something that we
[1:39:43] Speaker 13: should utilize But I think it's absolutely foolish that he
[1:39:46] Speaker 13: wants to come up with his own AI when he
[1:39:48] Speaker 13: could barely come up with his own actual intelligence. Nevertheless,
[1:39:53] Speaker 13: even an artificial intelligence is going to be something that's
[1:39:55] Speaker 13: reliable for the American public. So I think it's hilarious
[1:40:00] Speaker 13: and sad even that this is what this administration is presenting.
[1:40:04] Speaker 13: They should have far more important things to think about
[1:40:07] Speaker 13: right now than this little toy of data.
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: Julianne?
[1:40:14] Speaker 10: You know, I've said this on the show before, and
[1:40:16] Speaker 10: I borrowed it from Recy Colbert. Trump is a lying
[1:40:19] Speaker 10: liar that lies there with this particular tool. They are
[1:40:25] Speaker 10: pulling from over twenty nine thousand official government websites from
[1:40:29] Speaker 10: the federal government.
[1:40:30] Speaker 11: And so that makes Trump a walking contradiction.
[1:40:34] Speaker 10: I think one of the things that we have to
[1:40:36] Speaker 10: also realize as Democrats is that he is also a
[1:40:40] Speaker 10: gift that keeps on giving. And Sean is absolutely right.
[1:40:43] Speaker 10: We have to be able to capitalize on this particular
[1:40:46] Speaker 10: moment before it's taken down. We have to be able
[1:40:48] Speaker 10: to take those clips before before before things change. Technology,
[1:40:53] Speaker 10: of course, is ever changing, ever evolving. And one thing
[1:40:57] Speaker 10: that I will say about this AI thing, this AI tool,
[1:41:00] Speaker 10: is I do think eventually if it's used responsibly, it
[1:41:03] Speaker 10: could be good for government because innovation without accountability is.
[1:41:07] Speaker 10: can certainly become part of the mistake, but it also
[1:41:09] Speaker 10: can become a leverage of our government to make sure
[1:41:12] Speaker 10: that we remain the most powerful country.
[1:41:13] Speaker 1: In the world. Oh, listen, the issue is not with
[1:41:15] Speaker 1: the AI tool. The issue is that Trump lies. His
[1:41:19] Speaker 1: own AI tool completely debunks what comes out of his mouth, Omicongo.
[1:41:27] Speaker 4: And you got to love it.
[1:41:28] Speaker 12: And somebody could point this out to him with the
[1:41:32] Speaker 12: AI model right in front of him, and he's still
[1:41:34] Speaker 12: going to deny it, right? So what I encourage all
[1:41:36] Speaker 12: y'all MAGA folks, all y'all 30% who still ride with Trump,
[1:41:39] Speaker 12: why don't you go to the website and type in
[1:41:42] Speaker 12: all the quote-unquote woke stuff that we've been talking about
[1:41:45] Speaker 12: and see what answer you get. And then what are
[1:41:47] Speaker 12: you going to do when you get confronted with the
[1:41:49] Speaker 12: truth by your own man's AI technology?
[1:41:53] Speaker 4: Who are you going to run to then?
[1:41:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it's hilarious that these folks don't
[1:42:00] Speaker 1: want to sit here and accept the truth. All right, y'all.
[1:42:04] Speaker 1: MAGA Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth continues to plan more
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: cuts when it comes to generals and admirals, this time
[1:42:10] Speaker 1: by 20 percent. And he's, of course, been targeting black
[1:42:13] Speaker 1: folks and women. Well, Arizona Senator Mark Kelly was on
[1:42:15] Speaker 1: Face the Nation and he said, yeah, this ain't nothing
[1:42:19] Speaker 1: to do with merit.
[1:42:21] Speaker 21: Well, a number of Senate Republicans have expressed some concern
[1:42:24] Speaker 21: about Secretary Hage's firing. He also announced this past week
[1:42:27] Speaker 21: he's going to cut by 20 percent the number of
[1:42:29] Speaker 21: generals and admirals. He says in order to try to
[1:42:33] Speaker 21: change the culture and what the media calls a purge,
[1:42:36] Speaker 21: he says is simply a matter of accountability. Do you
[1:42:40] Speaker 21: have any insight into who he will be targeting in
[1:42:43] Speaker 21: these cuts? And if Democrats take some control, do you
[1:42:47] Speaker 21: have any ability to stop it?
[1:42:49] Speaker 9: Well, he often fires people because of the color of
[1:42:52] Speaker 9: their skin or because they're women. He also seems to
[1:42:56] Speaker 9: be looking for loyal. Of course he would deny that.
[1:43:02] Speaker 9: I think anybody would deny that. But it's pretty obvious
[1:43:04] Speaker 9: when you have a list of seven people who don't
[1:43:06] Speaker 9: promote from one star to two star and five of
[1:43:09] Speaker 9: them are either black or women.
[1:43:11] Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious.
[1:43:13] Speaker 4: Also, right off the bat, firing C.Q.
[1:43:15] Speaker 9: Brown without giving any reason without any particular reason why
[1:43:21] Speaker 9: one of the most qualified professional aviators, but a four-star general,
[1:43:27] Speaker 9: chief of staff of the Air Force, fired. Lisa Franchetti,
[1:43:31] Speaker 9: the Chief of Naval Operations, fired. The Commandant of the
[1:43:35] Speaker 9: Coast Guard, also a woman, was fired. The list goes on, Margaret.
[1:43:41] Speaker 9: This is a pattern with this Secretary of Defense, and
[1:43:45] Speaker 9: it's damaging our readiness. And when you hurt readiness... It
[1:43:50] Speaker 9: means that all of us, everybody watching the show, you
[1:43:53] Speaker 9: and your family are less safe because we have the
[1:43:56] Speaker 9: most unqualified secretary of defense we've ever had in this
[1:44:00] Speaker 9: country's history.
[1:44:01] Speaker 1: Bottom line is these people don't give a damn about
[1:44:04] Speaker 1: black people. And look at UCLA. They now are blasting
[1:44:09] Speaker 1: Trump's Department of Justice saying that for more than three years,
[1:44:12] Speaker 1: the Trump folks said they've used admission essays and personal
[1:44:15] Speaker 1: statements to encourage applicants to reveal their race. being treated
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: applicants differently based upon the information. The DOJ also says
[1:44:21] Speaker 1: that white Asian applicants who were rejected had the same
[1:44:23] Speaker 1: scores as the black and Hispanic applicants who were admitted. Now,
[1:44:27] Speaker 1: of course, Supreme Court rule in 2023, the colleges cannot
[1:44:30] Speaker 1: use rates as a factor in admission. UCLA denies this
[1:44:33] Speaker 1: and says its admissions process follows a law. And they
[1:44:35] Speaker 1: basically said they're abusing this. And y'all need to understand
[1:44:39] Speaker 1: what these people are simply doing is left and right.
[1:44:42] Speaker 1: They are attacking black people. There's no doubt that what
[1:44:45] Speaker 1: we're seeing before our very eyes, Julian, there's an attack
[1:44:48] Speaker 1: on black America from the Trump administration, and they're using
[1:44:52] Speaker 1: every lever in order to do so.
[1:44:55] Speaker 10: Yeah, Senator Kelly is right when he says, of course,
[1:44:59] Speaker 10: Hicks is going to deny those claims, but it is
[1:45:03] Speaker 10: what it is. The numbers speak for itself. And if
[1:45:06] Speaker 10: this was truly about merit, then show me the criteria.
[1:45:09] Speaker 10: Show me the criteria for merit. Be transparent as you
[1:45:11] Speaker 10: say government is supposed to be.
[1:45:14] Speaker 4: So here's one thing.
[1:45:15] Speaker 10: As that video was playing, and Roland, I think you
[1:45:17] Speaker 10: would find this pretty funny. I actually went to that website,
[1:45:22] Speaker 10: that AI website that we just talked about. And I
[1:45:24] Speaker 10: said specifically that I was sitting on a panel to
[1:45:27] Speaker 10: discuss Pete Hickseth and the firing.
[1:45:30] Speaker 11: Of those individuals. I asked for talking points.
[1:45:33] Speaker 10: And the very first thing it said was, do not
[1:45:36] Speaker 10: say Hickseth is firing people because they're black.
[1:45:40] Speaker 4: So, listen, we got a lot of work to do
[1:45:42] Speaker 4: in this.
[1:45:42] Speaker 10: Country, from the AI database on America.gov to, of course,
[1:45:46] Speaker 10: the unqualified person sitting as the Secretary of the Department
[1:45:49] Speaker 10: of War.
[1:45:50] Speaker 1: Sharla?
[1:45:52] Speaker 13: Yeah, so I want to go back to what we
[1:45:55] Speaker 13: just landed on in terms of thinking about the way
[1:45:59] Speaker 13: that the large language models are already collecting the data
[1:46:02] Speaker 13: and responding back to us in terms of what it
[1:46:05] Speaker 13: is that we're thinking about in this country. The last
[1:46:09] Speaker 13: clip that we just showed, we clearly don't care about
[1:46:14] Speaker 13: the safety of the entire country when we continue to
[1:46:17] Speaker 13: just fire qualified black.
[1:46:20] Speaker 2: People, black people in general. We will become the least
[1:46:25] Speaker 2: safe country.
[1:46:26] Speaker 13: And that should scare us, scare us to the point
[1:46:28] Speaker 13: of going to the ballot, going to the election polls
[1:46:32] Speaker 13: and making sure that we are voting because safety is
[1:46:37] Speaker 13: It should matter to each.
[1:46:38] Speaker 2: And every one of us.
[1:46:40] Speaker 1: Omikongo?
[1:46:43] Speaker 12: I just want to say that going back to the
[1:46:45] Speaker 12: story as related to Pete Hexseth, we've got to tie
[1:46:48] Speaker 12: it all into everything we've been talking about voting. Because
[1:46:51] Speaker 12: as we know, the House is in recess right now
[1:46:54] Speaker 12: because a Republican brought up impeachment proceed, wants to have
[1:46:58] Speaker 12: Pete Hexseth impeached. And Mike Johnson didn't want to have
[1:47:01] Speaker 12: any type of vote on that. And so he sent
[1:47:03] Speaker 12: folks home. It's another reason why leadership matters. And HECSF
[1:47:06] Speaker 12: has no business being there in the first place. I
[1:47:08] Speaker 12: wasn't really feeling the way the host, Margaret, was kind
[1:47:11] Speaker 12: of pushing him along. You know, Kelly, after he started
[1:47:14] Speaker 12: bringing in some of the race things, she's like, yeah, right.
[1:47:18] Speaker 12: And we see a lot of these journalists doing that.
[1:47:19] Speaker 12: But it's really problematic. But Senator Kelly did the right thing.
[1:47:23] Speaker 12: We need to call a thing a thing. And lastly,
[1:47:25] Speaker 12: as it relates to UCLA, they, from whether we talk
[1:47:27] Speaker 12: about Harmony Dillon that I mentioned earlier— They're going to
[1:47:30] Speaker 12: use every tool possible to try to destroy any advancements
[1:47:34] Speaker 12: made by non-white people, particularly black people and women. And
[1:47:38] Speaker 12: if you haven't figured it out now, you better get
[1:47:40] Speaker 12: on the good foot before it's too late.
[1:47:41] Speaker 1: All right, y'all. We talk about calling the thing a thing.
[1:47:45] Speaker 1: Check this out. So Illinois, a longtime Illinois congressman, Dennis Haster, Republican,
[1:47:51] Speaker 1: died today. He, of course, the disgraced House speaker, longest
[1:47:55] Speaker 1: serving Republican ever, who admitted to molesting boys years earlier.
[1:48:01] Speaker 1: So check this out. So I saw this this morning.
[1:48:04] Speaker 1: This was CBS News. That's right. All my other right
[1:48:07] Speaker 1: wingers led by right winger Barry Wise. This is what
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: they tweeted out. Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert,
[1:48:13] Speaker 1: who represented Illinois for two decades in Congress and was
[1:48:17] Speaker 1: later jailed for violating banking laws, Hastert. died. I saw
[1:48:24] Speaker 1: that and I said, aren't y'all leaving some things out? Now,
[1:48:29] Speaker 1: this is how the Associated Press actually said it. Dennis Hastert,
[1:48:35] Speaker 1: the former House Speaker, said, sent to prison in a
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: hush money case related to allegations of molesting teen athletes,
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: has died at 84. CBS said he went to prison
[1:48:50] Speaker 1: for violating banking laws, but they didn't say what they were.
[1:48:55] Speaker 1: Clearly CBS is getting ripped all day. So they posted
[1:48:59] Speaker 1: this an hour ago. Dennis Hastert, the disgraced former GOP
[1:49:03] Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, died earlier today at 84. A
[1:49:07] Speaker 1: prior version of this post stated that Hastert was jailed
[1:49:10] Speaker 1: for violating banking laws. That post missed the mark. You think?
[1:49:15] Speaker 1: Hastert was jailed on charges related to his concealment of
[1:49:19] Speaker 1: hush money payments made to cover up sexual abuse. See
[1:49:27] Speaker 1: what happens, Shonda, when those who control the narrative get
[1:49:31] Speaker 1: to try and reshape the narrative.
[1:49:36] Speaker 13: And that is how AIs, large language models, get corrupted
[1:49:43] Speaker 13: because it depends on what time the information was posted
[1:49:47] Speaker 13: to the internet who was spelling out the narrative of
[1:49:51] Speaker 13: what actually happened, when it has competing conversations around what
[1:49:55] Speaker 13: has happened, it generally will push out the next most,
[1:50:00] Speaker 13: the thing it thinks is the most logical thing to
[1:50:03] Speaker 13: occur next. What really happens though, particularly around white, male,
[1:50:10] Speaker 13: individuals who have a little bit of influence, power, and
[1:50:13] Speaker 13: or money, which is what we find in this newly
[1:50:16] Speaker 13: deceased individual, is that the narrative is going to go
[1:50:20] Speaker 13: to the nostalgic memory of who we want to say
[1:50:23] Speaker 13: this person was. And that rarely ever happens when it
[1:50:27] Speaker 13: comes to the way that black and brown bodies are
[1:50:29] Speaker 13: discussed online.
[1:50:31] Speaker 2: So what's the issue here? The issue here is that.
[1:50:36] Speaker 13: The media, first of all, outside of Black Star Network,
[1:50:40] Speaker 13: generally has to get called to the carpet because you
[1:50:44] Speaker 13: cannot pay the narrative in the public eye that suggests
[1:50:48] Speaker 13: that certain bodies should have a different level of prestige
[1:50:52] Speaker 13: or a different level of accountability or a different level
[1:50:55] Speaker 13: of appreciation based on your nostalgia to that person or
[1:50:59] Speaker 13: that influence, or that white maleness, or the hetero identity,
[1:51:04] Speaker 13: that we have to be consistent in how we talk
[1:51:06] Speaker 13: about people in life and in death, so not as
[1:51:09] Speaker 13: to confuse the algorithm.
[1:51:12] Speaker 1: Omikongo?
[1:51:15] Speaker 12: This is just a beautiful thing about having independent media
[1:51:18] Speaker 12: and about having people who know history in the social
[1:51:20] Speaker 12: media spaces as well who can call it out. This
[1:51:23] Speaker 12: is a good way to use it to fact check
[1:51:25] Speaker 12: the people who are supposed to be the fact checkers.
[1:51:27] Speaker 12: I mean, look at everything that has happened to CBS
[1:51:29] Speaker 12: from 60 Minutes on down. It's absolutely become such a
[1:51:32] Speaker 12: disgraceful organization. And the fact that it got called out
[1:51:36] Speaker 12: to such an extent that it had to issue a
[1:51:37] Speaker 12: new statement, it's a shame on them. But it's kudos
[1:51:41] Speaker 12: to us who are involved in these various spaces to
[1:51:44] Speaker 12: let them know that we're not going to let them
[1:51:45] Speaker 12: get away with the nonsense that they continue to try
[1:51:48] Speaker 12: to get away with. Just like when they did that,
[1:51:50] Speaker 12: you know, they cut that sea cop thing and aired
[1:51:53] Speaker 12: elsewhere and people got to see what was going on.
[1:51:55] Speaker 4: We have to stay on them.
[1:51:56] Speaker 12: We can't let up because these Trump folks and the Ellisons,
[1:52:00] Speaker 12: they're only trying to expand their network into news and
[1:52:03] Speaker 12: the like.
[1:52:03] Speaker 4: And we got to make sure we hold them to account.
[1:52:05] Speaker 1: Julianne?
[1:52:07] Speaker 10: Yeah, Roland, you know, this is why credible journalism matters.
[1:52:10] Speaker 10: And we're all on the same page when it comes
[1:52:12] Speaker 10: to this. I know in their statement they said that
[1:52:14] Speaker 10: they missed the mark, and I actually don't believe they
[1:52:16] Speaker 10: missed the mark. I think it was very intentional in
[1:52:18] Speaker 10: the way that they reported it. And anybody can technically
[1:52:22] Speaker 10: make a mistake, of course. The test of a serious
[1:52:25] Speaker 10: or real news or credible, in this case, news organization
[1:52:28] Speaker 10: is the verification process and then what happens, of course, afterwards.
[1:52:32] Speaker 10: And so what we saw, of course, was they tried
[1:52:35] Speaker 10: to correct what they said after the fact.
[1:52:37] Speaker 11: But when you talk about.
[1:52:38] Speaker 10: Algorithms, the social media algorithms pick up what you said
[1:52:42] Speaker 10: first more than they pick up what you said later.
[1:52:45] Speaker 10: And so that's really important when it comes to making
[1:52:48] Speaker 10: sure that we have credible news sources. And it also
[1:52:51] Speaker 10: is really a telltale source of why we need independent media.
[1:52:54] Speaker 11: Sources as well.
[1:52:55] Speaker 1: All right, folks, we are almost done. First of all,
[1:52:59] Speaker 1: I was going to discuss the Pope Leo comment. We're
[1:53:01] Speaker 1: going to pro-life. I'm going to push that to tomorrow
[1:53:02] Speaker 1: because I want to take some time on that one.
[1:53:05] Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about historic nature. Yesterday, yesterday,
[1:53:11] Speaker 1: Amari Avery, a young woman, became the ninth African-American ever
[1:53:17] Speaker 1: to earn her LPGA tour card. It's Ladies Professionals Golf Association.
[1:53:22] Speaker 1: This is what was posted on social media of Amari
[1:53:26] Speaker 1: earning her tour card. She, of course, went to USC.
[1:53:29] Speaker 1: They also touted that she's been a phenomenal golfer for
[1:53:35] Speaker 1: quite some time. And check this out. So this was
[1:53:39] Speaker 1: 11 years ago. I was playing in my man Wendell
[1:53:43] Speaker 1: Haskins original tee golf classic. I play every year that year.
[1:53:48] Speaker 1: They were honoring Lee Elder, the first African-American to play.
[1:53:52] Speaker 1: in the Masters. And it was an amazing foursome. This
[1:53:58] Speaker 1: is the group they put together. I play along with
[1:54:01] Speaker 1: Beverly Johnson, historic supermodel, also Lee Elder, and yep, that
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: young girl right there you see is Amari Avery. Now,
[1:54:10] Speaker 1: we took, go ahead and roll other photos. Of course,
[1:54:12] Speaker 1: we were having a little fun. That was just the
[1:54:15] Speaker 1: normal photo we took. Then we took, we had some
[1:54:18] Speaker 1: playful other photos. Come on, y'all. Y'all moving, there you go.
[1:54:21] Speaker 1: That was one of the photos, and that was one
[1:54:23] Speaker 1: that was a little bit more serious. And then, yes,
[1:54:26] Speaker 1: y'all know I'm going to sit here and jack with
[1:54:29] Speaker 1: anybody on the golf course. No, wrong. Why are y'all
[1:54:32] Speaker 1: showing that photo? That ain't Amari. That ain't Amari. All right,
[1:54:35] Speaker 1: now there's a video. That was my niece, Raquel. There's
[1:54:38] Speaker 1: a video I want to show y'all. I mess with
[1:54:40] Speaker 1: everybody on the golf course. including Amari Avery. So this
[1:54:44] Speaker 1: is me on that day ribbing Amari after, let's just say, she,
[1:54:51] Speaker 1: that's not it. It's a video I sent y'all.
[1:54:52] Speaker 2: All right.
[1:54:54] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:54:54] Speaker 2: All right.
[1:54:55] Speaker 1: Let me pull it up myself. That was a bit,
[1:54:57] Speaker 1: that was a bit. We were sitting here playing. We
[1:55:00] Speaker 1: were playing golf and I was sitting here jacking with
[1:55:05] Speaker 1: her because, y'all know, I crack on everybody. It don't matter.
[1:55:09] Speaker 1: It don't matter who you are. And so that was
[1:55:12] Speaker 1: a shot. She wasn't a great shot. And so Beverly,
[1:55:19] Speaker 1: Beverly Johnson said, Amari, hit it again. And so, you know,
[1:55:24] Speaker 1: I had to re-up her. Give me one second. I'll
[1:55:27] Speaker 1: pull this up. So y'all know me. I always got
[1:55:32] Speaker 1: the receipts. So here we go. Hold on one second.
[1:55:35] Speaker 1: Let me cue this up right. And so, all right, y'all,
[1:55:39] Speaker 1: check this here out. That was an air ball. That
[1:55:42] Speaker 1: was an air ball.
[1:55:46] Speaker 2: Air ball.
[1:56:05] Speaker 1: See, I didn't talk smack to you before you hit
[1:56:06] Speaker 1: that ball. That's why you didn't hit it well, so. So, like,
[1:56:09] Speaker 1: right now, you better hit this down. I'm gonna make
[1:56:11] Speaker 1: you walk through this hole.
[1:56:18] Speaker 2: See?
[1:56:18] Speaker 1: I made you focus. That was... That was your first
[1:56:22] Speaker 1: missed drive. That was an air ball. She said, yeah,
[1:56:24] Speaker 1: I made you focus. And so she was sitting here
[1:56:27] Speaker 1: making faces. So, all right, so check this out. So
[1:56:31] Speaker 1: six years later, I'm actually in Houston. And Cameron Champ,
[1:56:37] Speaker 1: with the Texas A & M, played on the Texas
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: A & M golf team. He was a PGA Tour player.
[1:56:43] Speaker 1: So him and his dad, Jeff Champ, they created a
[1:56:46] Speaker 1: tournament called the MAC Invitational. The purpose of this tournament
[1:56:50] Speaker 1: is to allow people Junior golfers, minority junior golfers to
[1:56:54] Speaker 1: be able to be able to accrue points for them
[1:56:56] Speaker 1: to be ranked. They also invite HBCU golf coaches out.
[1:57:00] Speaker 1: And so we're so we're giving the awards out. And
[1:57:04] Speaker 1: then they call it. I was like, wait a minute.
[1:57:05] Speaker 1: Don't I know who this person is? Y'all watch this
[1:57:08] Speaker 1: video here.
[1:57:10] Speaker 19: Riverside, California, with a 71-71 tournament total, 141, heading off
[1:57:17] Speaker 19: to the Augusta National Women's Amateur, we have Amari Avery.
[1:57:29] Speaker 2: What do we do in California?
[1:57:32] Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Amari, did we play at a Windows tournament?
[1:57:37] Speaker 10: No.
[1:57:38] Speaker 1: With Lee Elder. Yes. You grew the hell up. You
[1:57:43] Speaker 1: grew up. She won. She won first place in that tournament.
[1:57:49] Speaker 1: Show the photo of her with me and her with
[1:57:51] Speaker 1: the trophy. And she this is her right here. And
[1:57:55] Speaker 1: so amazing, amazing young talent. And again, so y'all. So
[1:58:01] Speaker 1: that she was, what, 12 years old in that that
[1:58:05] Speaker 1: first video. She played in the tournament several times. Her sister.
[1:58:10] Speaker 1: who's candid for her, is also a great golfer as well.
[1:58:13] Speaker 1: But one of the things that is important, you know,
[1:58:16] Speaker 1: her dad, of course, was someone really backing her career.
[1:58:20] Speaker 1: And what's amazing here, what's amazing right now, Sean, I'll
[1:58:27] Speaker 1: start with you, is that we talk about what's happening.
[1:58:31] Speaker 1: You are actually seeing more happen with black female golfers
[1:58:38] Speaker 1: on the pro tour than you really are seeing it
[1:58:40] Speaker 1: on the male side. And, of course, Cheyenne Woods, who
[1:58:44] Speaker 1: was Tiger Woods' niece, she formed to play on the
[1:58:48] Speaker 1: LPGA Tour. And, again, Althea Gibson was the first African-American
[1:58:53] Speaker 1: woman to play on the LPGA Tour. So it's a
[1:58:56] Speaker 1: pretty big deal. Amari went to USC. She played, of course,
[1:59:03] Speaker 1: on the winning team, the United States, and they played England.
[1:59:06] Speaker 1: And so just a phenomenal, phenomenal performance. golfer. And it's
[1:59:10] Speaker 1: great to see someone who was a junior golfer now
[1:59:14] Speaker 1: reach her dreams of the LPGA.
[1:59:17] Speaker 13: Yeah, I love that we're coming almost like ending the
[1:59:21] Speaker 13: show with this beautiful, beautiful story of Amari and her evolution.
[1:59:27] Speaker 13: As I think about my work with vocational accompaniment of
[1:59:30] Speaker 13: emerging adults, the importance of being able to shine a
[1:59:34] Speaker 13: light on the journey, the evolution of a young kiddo
[1:59:38] Speaker 13: like Amari Avery, who was with you at the age
[1:59:40] Speaker 13: of 12, and to now be headed to the Women's LBGA.
[1:59:44] Speaker 13: I think that is something that every person watching tonight
[1:59:48] Speaker 13: should take note of. You may not have an Amari
[1:59:51] Speaker 13: Avery in the exact sport or the exact activity, but
[1:59:55] Speaker 13: when it comes to pouring into the life of an
[1:59:58] Speaker 13: emerging adult, a child, a teenager even, to just give
[2:00:03] Speaker 13: them the access to say, hey, you can do something exceptional,
[2:00:06] Speaker 13: that this spirit of excellence is normative for people like us.
[2:00:11] Speaker 13: And so I love that we're shining a light on
[2:00:14] Speaker 13: Amari Avery and other women like that.
[2:00:17] Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Congo.
[2:00:18] Speaker 2: Black girl power.
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: Indeed, I'm a Congo. Lee Elder, you see me in
[2:00:22] Speaker 1: this video, in this photo here. He died five years ago.
[2:00:26] Speaker 1: And it was amazing on that day in 2015. Playing
[2:00:31] Speaker 1: 18 holes with him, Beverly Johnson and Amari, but also
[2:00:36] Speaker 1: the tips that he was also giving Amari for her
[2:00:39] Speaker 1: to be able to play with a legend like Lee
[2:00:42] Speaker 1: Elder was also awesome just for me to watch in videotape.
[2:00:48] Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, there's nothing like that transfer of knowledge
[2:00:52] Speaker 12: and to see the way people always have these conversations about, oh,
[2:00:55] Speaker 12: the elders don't respect the youth, the youth don't respect
[2:00:57] Speaker 12: the elders. I've never really believed that to be true
[2:01:00] Speaker 12: in our community. And you saw that firsthand because he
[2:01:05] Speaker 12: can go and chill at that time, you know, relax,
[2:01:07] Speaker 12: say I'm done. But he loved the game so much,
[2:01:09] Speaker 12: loved his people so much that he wanted to make
[2:01:11] Speaker 12: sure he passed on to the next generation. and to
[2:01:13] Speaker 12: make sure it was inspiring a young female to do
[2:01:15] Speaker 12: that as well. We know in all of these sports
[2:01:17] Speaker 12: outside of basketball, you know, Black women are going to be,
[2:01:20] Speaker 12: you know, represented at lower levels than white women in
[2:01:23] Speaker 12: these sports. And so to be in a space like that,
[2:01:25] Speaker 12: to take that knowledge, and for her to not only
[2:01:27] Speaker 12: take it and do something with it, and Roland, you're
[2:01:31] Speaker 12: wrong for trolling, you know, for a 12-year-old.
[2:01:33] Speaker 4: I'm just saying, but you're right. You can be petty
[2:01:34] Speaker 4: whenever you want to be. Clearly it don't matter.
[2:01:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, it don't matter.
[2:01:39] Speaker 4: If she would take that and do something with it,
[2:01:41] Speaker 4: it's powerful.
[2:01:43] Speaker 1: It does not matter. I don't even think Julian, I
[2:01:46] Speaker 1: don't even think she was 12. Let me count this up.
[2:01:49] Speaker 1: She was she may have been 10. But yeah, I'm
[2:01:52] Speaker 1: always troll. It don't matter. And King Petty is always
[2:01:57] Speaker 1: ready to roll.
[2:02:00] Speaker 15: Listen, I get it.
[2:02:00] Speaker 4: I'm a girl, dad.
[2:02:01] Speaker 10: I got three girls and we are a basketball family.
[2:02:04] Speaker 10: And every time my girls hit the court, including my
[2:02:06] Speaker 10: five year old, they will get it because that makes
[2:02:08] Speaker 10: them that makes them better. But listen, with this particular thing,
[2:02:12] Speaker 10: I am going to take this clip and I'm going
[2:02:15] Speaker 10: to make sure I'm intentional on showing all of my
[2:02:17] Speaker 10: girls exactly who Amari is.
[2:02:20] Speaker 11: The The biggest issue.
[2:02:23] Speaker 10: For me, and not issue, the biggest thing for me
[2:02:26] Speaker 10: is the representation and the access to a game like golf,
[2:02:29] Speaker 10: because golf is expensive. And we know there's a lot
[2:02:31] Speaker 10: of Black families that can't afford it or even look
[2:02:34] Speaker 10: down upon golf because it's historically not a quote-unquote Black sport.
[2:02:39] Speaker 10: But this gives you access to so many relationships, and
[2:02:42] Speaker 10: it gives you access to a better education.
[2:02:45] Speaker 11: There's scholarship money involved.
[2:02:46] Speaker 10: And I want to make sure that we're not just
[2:02:48] Speaker 10: looking at Amari as the next Tiger Woods.
[2:02:50] Speaker 11: We're looking at Amari as the next Amari.
[2:02:53] Speaker 1: Well, absolutely. In fact, she was 10. She was 10
[2:02:57] Speaker 1: when we played in 2015 because she turns 22 in December.
[2:03:03] Speaker 1: So again, congratulations to Amari Avery for becoming the ninth
[2:03:08] Speaker 1: African-American woman to earn her LPGA Tour card. And earlier
[2:03:12] Speaker 1: this year, she played on the Epson Tour. And in fact,
[2:03:20] Speaker 1: she became the first black woman to actually win a
[2:03:25] Speaker 1: title on the Epson tour. And that was a story
[2:03:29] Speaker 1: that was done. And even she was shocked when she
[2:03:33] Speaker 1: saw when she saw the story that she had become
[2:03:39] Speaker 1: the first African-American. This was the give me one second.
[2:03:42] Speaker 1: This was the Golf Digest story. that they did on her.
[2:03:48] Speaker 1: And give me one second. I'm going to pull a
[2:03:50] Speaker 1: photo up. She'll put them on Twitter. This was when
[2:03:55] Speaker 1: the Epson tour. One second. Come on, let's get this
[2:03:58] Speaker 1: thing straight. When the Epson tour, this is what they
[2:04:02] Speaker 1: posted when she made history becoming the first African-American to
[2:04:06] Speaker 1: ever win on the Epson tour. So cannot wait for
[2:04:09] Speaker 1: her to win her first LPGA tournament to become the
[2:04:13] Speaker 1: first African-American woman to win there, and so I'm quite
[2:04:16] Speaker 1: sure that Renee Powell, of course, a golfing legend herself,
[2:04:24] Speaker 1: I'm sure she will be excited for Amari and making
[2:04:31] Speaker 1: the tour, but I do want to do this before
[2:04:34] Speaker 1: we go. I want to show you the other eight.
[2:04:39] Speaker 1: Let's see here. Give me one second. I pulled this
[2:04:41] Speaker 1: story up with So the LPGA did a story earlier
[2:04:45] Speaker 1: this year that said, meet the eight African-American women who
[2:04:49] Speaker 1: have earned LPGA tour membership. And so Althea Gibson, she,
[2:04:55] Speaker 1: of course, who won Wimbledon, she was the first black
[2:04:59] Speaker 1: female on the LPGA tour. Renee Powell had a chance
[2:05:04] Speaker 1: to know and talk, had Renee on the show. She
[2:05:07] Speaker 1: became the second in 1967. Her dad, William Powell, built
[2:05:13] Speaker 1: the first black golf course in the country, literally with
[2:05:17] Speaker 1: his own hands. It was nine holes, now it's 18 holes.
[2:05:20] Speaker 1: It's still running in Clearview, Ohio. Then, of course, Laree Sugg.
[2:05:25] Speaker 1: She is number three. She was the honored last year,
[2:05:28] Speaker 1: the original T-Golf Classic. We actually... Show that video of
[2:05:33] Speaker 1: Larissa right here on the show. Number four was Shasta
[2:05:36] Speaker 1: Avery Hart, who played at Jackson State. She's from Michigan.
[2:05:41] Speaker 1: I've actually played golf with Shasta, and so we've always
[2:05:44] Speaker 1: had some fun on the golf course. Sedina Parks, she
[2:05:48] Speaker 1: was number five. I've also played golf with Sedina in
[2:05:51] Speaker 1: a tournament. She is quite hilarious. Cheyenne Woods, Tiger Woods' niece,
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: she was number six. Y'all, I got a hilarious story
[2:06:00] Speaker 1: with Cheyenne. So when scandal was hot, Cheyenne was actually
[2:06:06] Speaker 1: playing golf in Australia. And everybody was talking about scandal.
[2:06:11] Speaker 1: And she was like, yo, I'm on Hulu. I can't
[2:06:13] Speaker 1: find the show. What's going on? uh and i follow
[2:06:18] Speaker 1: her on twitter so i hit her sent her a
[2:06:20] Speaker 1: dm i was like yo you want to watch tonight's
[2:06:22] Speaker 1: scandal so that's when they had um that's when i
[2:06:26] Speaker 1: had a sling box sling box was a box that
[2:06:29] Speaker 1: you could connect to your cable where you could watch
[2:06:32] Speaker 1: your programming anywhere in the world long as you have
[2:06:36] Speaker 1: internet so i literally send cheyenne my username and password
[2:06:40] Speaker 1: and walk her through how she can actually connect the
[2:06:42] Speaker 1: sling box so she can actually see that night's scandal
[2:06:45] Speaker 1: and so We got a big kick out of that.
[2:06:48] Speaker 1: Number seven, Ginger Gould. She used to be Ginger Howard.
[2:06:53] Speaker 1: She became the eighth African-American woman. And I remember I
[2:06:58] Speaker 1: was at what? NBA All-Star Game in Orlando, 2012. And
[2:07:05] Speaker 1: I actually played. That wasn't 2012. It was later 2000.
[2:07:09] Speaker 1: Maybe it was 2012. Anyway, I actually played golf with
[2:07:11] Speaker 1: Ginger and her dad. I follow both of them on socials.
[2:07:14] Speaker 1: We connected and then we went out and played golf.
[2:07:16] Speaker 1: And then, of course, Mariah Stackhouse. She was a star
[2:07:21] Speaker 1: player at Stanford and she became the eighth black to
[2:07:26] Speaker 1: a player. She was as injuries last year. So she's
[2:07:30] Speaker 1: trying to get back in the swing of things. And
[2:07:32] Speaker 1: so there you go. So, yeah, that's also why I
[2:07:35] Speaker 1: love golf, because you get to meet great people as well.
[2:07:38] Speaker 2: So.
[2:07:39] Speaker 1: So congratulations, Amari Avery. All right. That's it for us. Shonda, Julian,
[2:07:44] Speaker 1: Ome Congo. I really appreciate y'all being on today's panel.
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[2:10:17] Speaker 1: So get your book today, go to, you can call
[2:10:21] Speaker 1: a black bookstore, independent bookstore, uh, to pre-order your book.
[2:10:24] Speaker 1: You can also do it online as well. And so, uh,
[2:10:27] Speaker 1: hit all of those places, uh, to be able to
[2:10:30] Speaker 1: do so. And, uh, y'all should have the graphic on Friday.
[2:10:34] Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Little Rock, Arkansas, Little Rock, Arkansas.
[2:10:37] Speaker 1: And so look forward to being there, talking to the
[2:10:40] Speaker 1: black mayors there in Little Rock. And so look forward
[2:10:44] Speaker 1: to being there. That's going to begin this Friday, October
[2:10:48] Speaker 1: 9th in Little Rock, Arkansas. Then, of course, on Saturday,
[2:10:52] Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Fairfax, Virginia for the NAACP event.
[2:10:55] Speaker 1: Y'all should be pulling those graphics up. And on Sunday,
[2:10:58] Speaker 1: we are sold out in Lansing, Michigan. I'm going to
[2:11:00] Speaker 1: be in Lansing, Michigan, October 11th. And so Little Rock, Arkansas,
[2:11:04] Speaker 1: I'm going to be there on October 9th. Okay. Fairfax, Virginia,
[2:11:12] Speaker 1: October 9th. Fairfax, Virginia, October 10th. Tickets are available for
[2:11:16] Speaker 1: Little Rock and Fairfax. October 11th. We're sold out in Lansing, Michigan,
[2:11:21] Speaker 1: October 11th. All y'all, that's it. I'll see y'all tomorrow
[2:11:23] Speaker 1: right here. Rolling on the filter of the Blackstar Network.

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