# Louisiana Black Seat at Risk. Texas Polling Cuts Stand. KKK Sign Disrupts GOP Dinner

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 16 Oct 2026, 2 h 29 min.

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10.15.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Louisiana Black Seat at Risk. Texas Polling Cuts Stand. KKK Sign Disrupts GOP Dinner Louisiana's Callais case isn't completely over just yet. A federal court will soon decide whether the state's only majority-Black seat gets erased from the table. The Founder and President of Power Coalition for Equity and Justice will explain what will happen in the October 27 hearing. A Texas judge says Tarrant County doesn't have to restore nearly 100 polling places that county officials cut, dealing a major setback to voting-rights advocates and minority groups weeks before the high-stakes midterm election. We are 19 days from the election; we'll talk to Black pollster Chris Towler about how folks are dealing with the negative ads and lies being told about candidates. The Black Republican Minnesota Gubernatorial Candidate got interrupted by protesters carrying a KKK sign during a GOP dinner. And a memo released in the Brian Flores lawsuit against the NFL for racial discrimination contained examples of what his legal team labeled as racial stereotypes and talking points teams use in reference to potential Black head coach hires. Black Star Network Partner: Chapter For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland Paid Partnership Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[4:38] Speaker 1: We have to keep.
[4:56] Speaker 2: The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black
[4:59] Speaker 2: Star Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN.
[5:03] Speaker 1: You can't be Black-owned media and be scary.
[5:07] Speaker 2: It's time to be smart.
[5:08] Speaker 3: Bring your eyeballs home.
[5:11] Speaker 1: You dig? Today is Thursday, October 15th, 2026. Coming up
[7:28] Speaker 1: on Roland Martin on a filter streaming live on the
[7:30] Speaker 1: Black Star Network. Louisiana Kalei case isn't completely over just yet.
[7:34] Speaker 1: A federal court will soon decide whether the state's only
[7:37] Speaker 1: majority black seat gets erased from the table. We'll be
[7:41] Speaker 1: joined by the founder and president of the Power Coalition
[7:44] Speaker 1: for Equity and Justice. A Texas judge says Tarrant County
[7:47] Speaker 1: does not have to restore nearly 100 polling places. County
[7:51] Speaker 1: officials cut out dealing a major setback to voting rights advocates.
[7:57] Speaker 1: 19 days from the election, we'll talk to black poster
[7:59] Speaker 1: Chris Toler about how folks are dealing with the negative
[8:02] Speaker 1: ads and lies being told about candidates. And the black
[8:05] Speaker 1: Republican Minnesota gubernatorial candidate got interrupted by protesters carrying a
[8:09] Speaker 1: KKK sign during a GOP dinner. And a memo released
[8:13] Speaker 1: in the Brian Flores lawsuit against the NFL for racial
[8:16] Speaker 1: discrimination contained examples of what his legal team labeled as
[8:20] Speaker 1: racial stereotypes and talking points teams use in reference to
[8:24] Speaker 1: potential black head coach hires. Wait until we show y'all
[8:27] Speaker 1: what they actually said. It is time to bring the funk.
[8:30] Speaker 1: I'm Roland McDonald-Pilchard on the Black Star Network. Let's go.
[8:35] Speaker 4: Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's
[8:39] Speaker 4: got the scoop, the fact, the fine. And when it blips,
[8:42] Speaker 4: he's right on time. And it's rolling. Best belief he's knowing.
[8:47] Speaker 2: Putting it down from.
[8:48] Speaker 5: Sports to news to politics.
[8:49] Speaker 6: With entertainment just for kicks, he's rolling. It's all go, go, go.
[9:00] Speaker 6: It's Rollin' Martin, yeah. Rollin' with Rollin' now. He's funky,
[9:10] Speaker 6: he's fresh, he's real the best, you know he's.
[9:12] Speaker 1: Rollin' Martin now. Folks, in 12 days, Louisiana's Attorney General
[9:40] Speaker 1: Liz Morrell is expected to ask a three-judge federal panel
[9:44] Speaker 1: to end the Kalei case. The panel includes former 5th U.S.
[9:48] Speaker 1: Circuit Court Chief Judge Carl E. Stewart of Shreveport, who
[9:51] Speaker 1: was nominated by President Bill Clinton, U.S. District Judge David C. Joseph,
[9:55] Speaker 1: and District Judge Robert Summerhays, both nominated by the twice-impeached
[9:59] Speaker 1: criminal condominium chief Donald Trump. They'll decide whether the fight
[10:03] Speaker 1: ends with one majority black district or continues towards a
[10:06] Speaker 1: map with no black opportunity districts at all in a
[10:09] Speaker 1: state where black residents make up a third of the population.
[10:12] Speaker 1: Ashley Shelton, founding president of the Power Coalition for Equity
[10:15] Speaker 1: and Justice, joins us now from Louisiana. Okay, so Ashley Shelton, OK,
[10:19] Speaker 1: so we already know they've wiped out a seat that
[10:24] Speaker 1: that was created, the second seat that was created, the
[10:28] Speaker 1: Cleo Field sitting in. What we're talking about here is
[10:32] Speaker 1: are they wanting to wipe out the seat in New
[10:35] Speaker 1: Orleans of Congressman Troy Carter?
[10:37] Speaker 7: Absolutely.
[10:38] Speaker 8: And we are going to court to ask this three-judge
[10:42] Speaker 8: panel to dismiss this request by the Calais plaintiffs. You know,
[10:48] Speaker 8: it's particularly cruel. I mean, when you think about the
[10:50] Speaker 8: fact that, you know, a third of the state is
[10:54] Speaker 8: African-American voters and people, and that, you know, in a
[10:58] Speaker 8: state that has the second largest Black population proportionally in
[11:01] Speaker 8: the country, that we have folks that still want to
[11:04] Speaker 8: deny us to have any representation in to have anyone
[11:07] Speaker 8: that looks like us actually bringing our voice, our values,
[11:10] Speaker 8: you know, to policy conversations in our nation's capital.
[11:14] Speaker 7: And, you know, to be really clear, Calais not.
[11:16] Speaker 8: Only stopped, you know, stopped us from being able to
[11:18] Speaker 8: do that at the congressional level, but this has impact
[11:22] Speaker 8: and implications for every level of government. And so, you know,
[11:25] Speaker 8: this is just one more, you know, kind of cut
[11:28] Speaker 8: at the apple for the Calais plaintiffs to take the
[11:31] Speaker 8: win that they already have and twist it into into
[11:34] Speaker 8: something that allows them to continue this, you know, this
[11:37] Speaker 8: attack on Black political power and the power of other
[11:40] Speaker 8: minority voters.
[11:42] Speaker 1: In many ways, what they want to do in Louisiana
[11:44] Speaker 1: is what Republicans did in Tennessee when they carved up
[11:48] Speaker 1: the district of Memphis.
[11:51] Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And to, again, you know, you know, pack,
[11:56] Speaker 7: you know, pack, crack, and in this particular instance, erase.
[12:00] Speaker 8: Any political power that any Black or minority voters have
[12:04] Speaker 8: in the state of Louisiana. And, you know, when I
[12:07] Speaker 8: think that, you know, when the CalA decision came down,
[12:09] Speaker 8: I reminded folks that, you know, we have to have
[12:11] Speaker 8: a real conversation in this country about representation.
[12:14] Speaker 7: And, you know, key to representation, key to citizenship is representation.
[12:19] Speaker 7: And so, again, if my voice and my values aren't.
[12:22] Speaker 8: Heard at any level of government, If the policies that
[12:25] Speaker 8: are being made don't bring my experience as a Black
[12:29] Speaker 8: woman from the Deep South to the table, then again,
[12:33] Speaker 8: do I just get to become a consumer? Am I
[12:35] Speaker 8: just here to purchase goods? I don't actually get to live...
[12:40] Speaker 8: you know, in communities that reflect my values to actually
[12:44] Speaker 8: see policies move forward that actually address the issues that
[12:47] Speaker 8: we know not only face the Black community, but in
[12:49] Speaker 8: a state like Louisiana, face so many communities.
[12:52] Speaker 7: This is a rural, poor state.
[12:55] Speaker 8: And the reality is, is that the place that many
[12:58] Speaker 8: African-American voters find themselves in is the same place that
[13:01] Speaker 8: many rural white voters and voters in our cities as well. Like,
[13:06] Speaker 8: it's an interesting place It's an interesting scenario, but again,
[13:10] Speaker 8: I really take issue with the idea that they don't
[13:14] Speaker 8: want us to have any representation. And what does it
[13:18] Speaker 8: mean if the place in the country that has the
[13:21] Speaker 8: second largest Black population proportionally can't have fair representation or
[13:26] Speaker 8: anything that even resembles representation at all?
[13:29] Speaker 7: Then what does it mean for the rest of the country?
[13:31] Speaker 8: And I remind people often that as goes the South
[13:33] Speaker 8: goes the nation, and these policies and these fights you know,
[13:38] Speaker 8: are constantly being seated in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama in particular,
[13:44] Speaker 8: but the South more broadly, and then taken wholesale to
[13:46] Speaker 8: the rest of this country in no time at all.
[13:47] Speaker 8: We see Mississippi redistricting. We see talks of constitutional conventions
[13:53] Speaker 8: in other places in the South. And I just, you know,
[13:56] Speaker 8: feel like folks want to shake their head and just
[13:58] Speaker 8: say it's the South being the South again. But these
[14:00] Speaker 8: issues and these tactics and strategies that we're seeing have
[14:04] Speaker 8: impacts on all of our communities, no matter where you live.
[14:07] Speaker 8: And that's the thing about the South is that it
[14:10] Speaker 8: is escalating. And so it used to be a year
[14:12] Speaker 8: before you would see some of the terrible things that
[14:14] Speaker 8: are happening in the South, find a community near you.
[14:17] Speaker 8: And now we're seeing it take a quarter or two.
[14:20] Speaker 8: And so just want folks to just be mindful about
[14:22] Speaker 8: this fight around Calais and the Voting Rights Act is
[14:25] Speaker 8: not just a Southern fight. This is a fight for
[14:28] Speaker 8: Black and other minority representation at every level of government
[14:32] Speaker 8: in this country.
[14:34] Speaker 1: Well, again, and that's something people have to understand. And
[14:36] Speaker 1: we've been making this clear. What they want to do
[14:38] Speaker 1: is They have placed a bullseye on the backs of
[14:42] Speaker 1: black people and they are attacking political power, economic power, academia, education.
[14:48] Speaker 1: They're attacking health. You name it. This is what the
[14:52] Speaker 1: GOP war on black America is all about.
[14:56] Speaker 7: Now, absolutely.
[14:57] Speaker 3: Absolutely.
[14:57] Speaker 7: And I think that we have to fight.
[14:59] Speaker 8: I think the only answer when people take away your
[15:01] Speaker 8: voice or they try to take away your voice and
[15:04] Speaker 8: your power is to show up.
[15:05] Speaker 7: I mean, show them what they're afraid of.
[15:07] Speaker 8: What they're afraid of is, you know, allegedly, right, is
[15:10] Speaker 8: that all this growing minority majority is going to show
[15:14] Speaker 8: up at the polls on November 3rd.
[15:17] Speaker 7: And that's exactly what we have to do. And that's
[15:19] Speaker 7: exactly what.
[15:20] Speaker 8: Is before us in terms of the opportunity, the The challenge,
[15:24] Speaker 8: you know, and and the message that has to be
[15:27] Speaker 8: sent about the fact that, like, yeah, you can neuter
[15:30] Speaker 8: my voice at, you know, you might be able to
[15:32] Speaker 8: take away my congressional district, but you can do nothing
[15:35] Speaker 8: about the fact that Louisiana voters for the first time
[15:37] Speaker 8: since Reconstruction have the opportunity to.
[15:39] Speaker 7: To elect a black man to the U.S.
[15:41] Speaker 9: Senate.
[15:41] Speaker 8: So again, in all the ways that we can show
[15:44] Speaker 8: our power as black voters and other minority voters, and
[15:47] Speaker 8: I remind folks that minority includes women of every race
[15:50] Speaker 8: and ethnicity, and that we're talking about, again, a rising
[15:56] Speaker 8: minority majority that they are trying to eliminate the ability
[16:01] Speaker 8: to have any voice or say in the policymaking you know,
[16:07] Speaker 8: the policymaking centers of our democracy.
[16:09] Speaker 1: All right, then. Well, Ashley, we certainly appreciate it. We'll
[16:13] Speaker 1: be watching and see what happens in this case.
[16:16] Speaker 3: Yep.
[16:16] Speaker 7: Join us Tuesday.
[16:17] Speaker 8: We'll be doing a rally on the steps of the
[16:20] Speaker 8: courthouse and we'll start at 1030 on that Tuesday, October
[16:26] Speaker 8: 27th in Shreveport, Louisiana. And so please feel free to
[16:30] Speaker 8: join us. We'll probably actually be gathering much earlier than 1030,
[16:34] Speaker 8: but we actually go into court at 1030. But please
[16:36] Speaker 8: join us as you'll be hearing from leaders from across
[16:39] Speaker 8: the the state of Louisiana and other areas talking about
[16:42] Speaker 8: why this is so egregious, what these Cat Lake plaintiffs
[16:45] Speaker 8: are trying to do.
[16:46] Speaker 10: All right.
[16:47] Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
[16:48] Speaker 7: Thank you.
[16:50] Speaker 2: Dr.
[16:50] Speaker 1: Greg Carr, Department of African American Studies at Howard University,
[16:53] Speaker 1: joining from D.C., Michael Brown, former chair of the DNC
[16:55] Speaker 1: Finance Committee, also D.C., Jelena Jones, Texas State Representative and
[16:58] Speaker 1: lawyer out of Houston. Michael, I'll start with you. These
[17:01] Speaker 1: legal fights, again, they are continuing. And what our people
[17:05] Speaker 1: have to understand is Again, they're using every lever possible.
[17:10] Speaker 1: What they want is they want to go to the
[17:12] Speaker 1: Fifth Circuit, extremely conservative. Then they want this to go
[17:15] Speaker 1: all the way to the Supreme Court and for the
[17:17] Speaker 1: Supreme Court to give them the authority to wipe out
[17:20] Speaker 1: this district. They want to wipe out black power in Louisiana.
[17:27] Speaker 11: And as we've said on many occasions, Roland, elections have consequences.
[17:33] Speaker 11: And when we don't, I'm not talking about in three weeks,
[17:37] Speaker 11: the vote that's coming up. I'm talking about the votes
[17:39] Speaker 11: that have happened over the last election cycles are the
[17:43] Speaker 11: reason this particular three judge panel. has two Trump appointees.
[17:48] Speaker 11: And because of that, because if maybe folks had gotten
[17:52] Speaker 11: out to vote or voted differently, maybe this three-judge panel
[17:57] Speaker 11: would have a more open idea of what democracy and
[18:01] Speaker 11: fairness is all about. So I'm not holding a lot
[18:04] Speaker 11: of hope that this three-judge panel will be fair. Clearly,
[18:08] Speaker 11: no matter who wins or loses, it'll get appealed. And
[18:13] Speaker 11: at some point, it'll probably get to the Supreme Court
[18:15] Speaker 11: whether they choose to hear it or not.
[18:17] Speaker 3: So these are the stakes every time there's an election.
[18:20] Speaker 11: And I understand that there's a lot of reasons why
[18:23] Speaker 11: people either choose not to vote or choose to vote
[18:26] Speaker 11: for the wrong candidate. But in this case, you better
[18:30] Speaker 11: get ready and have a voting plan on November 3rd
[18:35] Speaker 11: and or earlier, depending on your state.
[18:37] Speaker 3: But the stakes are extremely high.
[18:39] Speaker 11: I can't even imagine New Orleans, Louisiana, not having a
[18:45] Speaker 11: person that looks like us in the United States Congress.
[18:48] Speaker 3: That is crazy.
[18:49] Speaker 1: Well, again, what what you're dealing with here, Jolanda, this
[18:53] Speaker 1: is what the Senate also matters, because if Democrats control
[18:57] Speaker 1: the Senate, then they will determine what federal judges get confirmed.
[19:02] Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, if the Democrats take
[19:04] Speaker 1: control of the Senate, if they choose to elect a
[19:08] Speaker 1: new Senate leader, and I think they should. Chuck Schumer
[19:11] Speaker 1: needs to go. But even if it's him, they should
[19:14] Speaker 1: do exactly what Mitch McConnell did. We ain't confirming nobody.
[19:18] Speaker 1: In the last two years of Obama, there were 100
[19:24] Speaker 1: federal judicial vacancies because Mitch McConnell would not let them
[19:27] Speaker 1: go through. And that's how Trump was able to appoint
[19:30] Speaker 1: all those judges. Democrats should say payback is a bitch.
[19:35] Speaker 12: I absolutely believe that payback should be a bitch, but
[19:38] Speaker 12: let me tell you what I think, Roland. People thought
[19:41] Speaker 12: we won when Congressman Greene sued about the redistricting in
[19:46] Speaker 12: Texas that ultimately redistricted him out of Congress. Remember, the
[19:51] Speaker 12: Fifth Circuit said that it was unconstitutional and then it
[19:55] Speaker 12: got appealed to the Supreme Court.
[19:57] Speaker 2: And I think they did that on purpose. Absolutely. So
[20:01] Speaker 2: that the Supreme Court could come down and be the
[20:03] Speaker 2: law of the land.
[20:04] Speaker 12: So actually, you might think that the two courts, Trump
[20:10] Speaker 12: appointed Fifth Circuit justices and the Clinton appointed black justice
[20:15] Speaker 12: would would vote that it's like fine. But I think
[20:20] Speaker 12: the ultimate goal of them is to get it to
[20:24] Speaker 12: go to the Supreme. So the Supremes can say as
[20:27] Speaker 12: the law of the land in the United States that
[20:29] Speaker 12: you do not have to have black representation in. in
[20:34] Speaker 12: a state even if it has the second largest proportional
[20:37] Speaker 12: black population, as was said earlier. So I fully expect
[20:42] Speaker 12: this case to not just stop at the Fifth Circuit.
[20:46] Speaker 12: I fully expect it to go to the Supremes and
[20:49] Speaker 12: I expect the Supremes to hear it and to rule
[20:55] Speaker 12: that you don't have to have representation that looks like
[20:58] Speaker 12: the people that demand representation. So it's one more way
[21:04] Speaker 12: to undo the Voting Rights Act.
[21:07] Speaker 1: Well, they pretty much already said that, Greg, and so
[21:10] Speaker 1: they want them to reaffirm it.
[21:14] Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's important, and I embrace this. I
[21:17] Speaker 13: embrace it fully. I'll tell you why. These white nationalists
[21:21] Speaker 13: are dying people. at a rate and at a percentage
[21:25] Speaker 13: that is greater than the non-whites around them. This is
[21:28] Speaker 13: a matter of time before they are ultimately subsumed in
[21:32] Speaker 13: terms of population. Doesn't speak to our politics. We got
[21:35] Speaker 13: to get our politics together, you know, as we know. Louisiana, Mississippi,
[21:40] Speaker 13: neighboring Mississippi are closer.
[21:43] Speaker 2: Georgia, closer.
[21:45] Speaker 13: South Carolina, Alabama, closer than the rest of the country
[21:48] Speaker 13: in terms of that shift. The reason I say I
[21:51] Speaker 13: embrace it is because we have to understand that everything
[21:54] Speaker 13: we're talking about now is judge-made law. It isn't just
[21:58] Speaker 13: the judicial appointments. It's the interpretations. Every time the federal
[22:02] Speaker 13: government has passed legislation, It has been narrowed, not by
[22:06] Speaker 13: the federal government, but by the judges. The Civil Rights
[22:09] Speaker 13: Act of 1866, which is the birth of, when we
[22:12] Speaker 13: think about sections 241 and 242, the anti-lynching kind of
[22:15] Speaker 13: stuff and all of that.
[22:17] Speaker 2: The 15th Amendment, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the
[22:21] Speaker 2: 14th Amendment, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. All of
[22:24] Speaker 2: these things have been whittled away with.
[22:26] Speaker 13: We saw what happened with the Civil Rights Act of 1866,
[22:28] Speaker 13: and ultimately, as well, the Civil War Amendment, the 14th Amendment,
[22:32] Speaker 13: particularly with civil rights cases in the 1880s. It has
[22:35] Speaker 13: been judges. When you change the judges, you can recover
[22:38] Speaker 13: all of this. And here's the key. Put it back
[22:41] Speaker 13: on stronger footing. The 15th Amendment, as far as I'm concerned,
[22:45] Speaker 13: has not been used to the degree that it should
[22:48] Speaker 13: have been used. You look at Gamaliel versus Lightfoot, the
[22:50] Speaker 13: Tuskegee case that used the 15th Amendment to argue and
[22:53] Speaker 13: hasn't been really pursued as a strategy when it comes
[22:55] Speaker 13: to voting rights act. So you look at the 13th Amendment,
[22:59] Speaker 13: which I think needs to be reexamined in the long run.
[23:01] Speaker 13: The 13th Amendment, I think, is a very potent weapon
[23:03] Speaker 13: that we could use, making the argument that it isn't
[23:05] Speaker 13: just about equal protection and due process. It's about badges
[23:07] Speaker 13: and incidents of slavery. Why am I laying the foundation
[23:10] Speaker 13: for what I'm about to say next? I'm saying that
[23:11] Speaker 13: to say that who the judge is matters in ways
[23:14] Speaker 13: that we don't really flesh out as much as we should.
[23:18] Speaker 13: This brother, Jamie Davis, has a real shot at winning
[23:20] Speaker 13: the United States Senate in Louisiana. We talked to him
[23:23] Speaker 13: a couple of weeks ago, and he was saying, I
[23:25] Speaker 13: got to talk to Roland.
[23:27] Speaker 2: I got to talk to Roland. I said, oh, don't worry.
[23:28] Speaker 2: I know you're going to talk to Roland.
[23:30] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, unfortunately, we've been reaching out to his people,
[23:33] Speaker 1: and they haven't been getting back to us.
[23:35] Speaker 2: Say less. Let me let me let me let me see.
[23:37] Speaker 13: Can I dig around to the person that we reached
[23:39] Speaker 13: out to? Because he said he wanted to talk with you.
[23:41] Speaker 13: And so therefore now realize it's a matter of communication
[23:44] Speaker 13: because he's the one who said it. That's I sang
[23:46] Speaker 13: a chorus with him about you.
[23:47] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[23:49] Speaker 13: He said if he can get if black people in
[23:51] Speaker 13: Louisiana simply vote, the percentages they voted.
[23:55] Speaker 2: The first time.
[23:56] Speaker 13: Obama ran for president in 2008, he's singing from the
[23:58] Speaker 13: same choir book that you sang. I said, well, what
[24:00] Speaker 13: percentage of the white vote would you need? He said,
[24:02] Speaker 13: if I got 10%, I said, are you sure? He said, man,
[24:05] Speaker 13: if I got 10% of the white vote in Louisiana,
[24:08] Speaker 13: we would win in the landslide.
[24:10] Speaker 2: Not even voting our numbers, Roland. So I'm coming down
[24:12] Speaker 2: to this.
[24:13] Speaker 13: I agree with you when it comes to taking the
[24:16] Speaker 13: same tactic that the late, I mean, that Mitch McConnell
[24:19] Speaker 13: took when it came to the Obama appointees.
[24:21] Speaker 2: And let's be crystal clear about this.
[24:25] Speaker 13: You're going to gerrymander yourself into a dummy mander. Texas
[24:28] Speaker 13: will be a bellwether test of that in the upcoming
[24:31] Speaker 13: several weeks. But also, Sam Alito's coming off that bench,
[24:35] Speaker 13: I believe, before Donald Trump ended his presidency.
[24:38] Speaker 2: Commerce might come off. That's two slots.
[24:42] Speaker 13: We've got to break their backs and put them in,
[24:44] Speaker 13: not only in Louisiana, but neighboring Mississippi with Scott Colum.
[24:48] Speaker 13: Then get Georgia back again, North Carolina flip.
[24:51] Speaker 2: And you're absolutely right, Roland. That's got to be the playbook.
[24:54] Speaker 13: Win those elections, and then there will be no federal
[24:57] Speaker 13: judges confirmed until after the presidential election of 2008.
[25:07] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not.
[25:08] Speaker 1: 2008, 2028. And again, look, I have been yelling and
[25:11] Speaker 1: hollering and screaming, trying to get people to understand. I'm like, yo,
[25:15] Speaker 1: maximize your power. Again, this is, you know, this is
[25:20] Speaker 1: what I always say. I always say this. And what
[25:26] Speaker 1: I mean is, like, if you show me you can
[25:29] Speaker 1: do it, you done messed up. Because see, now you
[25:35] Speaker 1: can't come back And act like you can't do it.
[25:39] Speaker 1: And I get it. I get the historic nature of
[25:46] Speaker 1: Obama running. But my problem is, once you've shown that power,
[25:53] Speaker 1: it should prove to you, yo, we can run the table.
[25:56] Speaker 1: Had black folks in Louisiana shown that power, you would
[26:00] Speaker 1: have a black governor in Louisiana and not MAGA Jeff Landry.
[26:08] Speaker 1: You could have a black United States Senator in Louisiana.
[26:13] Speaker 1: You can have a black United States Senator in Mississippi.
[26:18] Speaker 1: The first African American elected statewide in Mississippi since the,
[26:23] Speaker 1: since the concert convention of 1890. You could have a
[26:27] Speaker 1: black member of Congress in Chris Jones in Arkansas. Justin Pearson.
[26:34] Speaker 1: If Memphis, if Memphis turns out just Memphis, they could
[26:41] Speaker 1: crush the Republican running against Justin Pearson. If black folks
[26:47] Speaker 1: voted at Obama levels in Florida, Angie Nixon is the
[26:53] Speaker 1: next United States Senator from Florida. I can go down
[26:57] Speaker 1: the line and this is where, this is where I'm
[27:04] Speaker 1: trying to get folk to understand that one, I need
[27:11] Speaker 1: black elected officials to get some guts. Let me tell
[27:18] Speaker 1: you something. When Don Scott, our alpha brother, sorry, Michael,
[27:25] Speaker 1: when he became the Speaker of the House in Virginia,
[27:29] Speaker 1: my Texas A & M, Pio-Macron alpha brother, He let
[27:33] Speaker 1: it be known to all of the Democrats. All y'all
[27:36] Speaker 1: consultants gone. New sheriffs in town. This is how we
[27:42] Speaker 1: going to run this. Because every damn election cycle. Black
[27:49] Speaker 1: folks are fighting for crumbs. Kenyatta funding black owned media,
[27:54] Speaker 1: funding black consultants, putting money on the ground. All these campaign.
[27:59] Speaker 1: Tallarico's campaign just announced they raised sixty four million dollars
[28:04] Speaker 1: in the third quarter. The largest of any Senate candidate
[28:09] Speaker 1: in United States history. Where is that money going to go?
[28:17] Speaker 1: Are you truly executing a strategy to turn out black people?
[28:21] Speaker 1: Which is why what I say to black people, hey,
[28:28] Speaker 1: if they're a black candidate, and if it's a black
[28:31] Speaker 1: candidate who ain't doing their job, because see, that's the
[28:33] Speaker 1: other thing. It's some black candidates relying on white consultants.
[28:37] Speaker 1: It's some black candidates not hiring black pollsters. It's a
[28:40] Speaker 1: lot of black candidates not putting money into black-owned media.
[28:45] Speaker 1: That's why we should be funding repairs of the breach.
[28:48] Speaker 1: We should be refunding Black Voters Matter because we know
[28:51] Speaker 1: they're going to put the money where it needs to
[28:53] Speaker 1: be put. I'm telling you, it is. And this is
[28:57] Speaker 1: why I literally everything I'm talking about, y'all, every single
[29:03] Speaker 1: this whole conversation, I laid out my new book, Black Forward.
[29:08] Speaker 1: Where I literally say, y'all, it is sitting in our
[29:11] Speaker 1: hands in some of these places. We could be controlled.
[29:16] Speaker 1: Ain't no way in hell. Houston should not have back
[29:21] Speaker 1: to back to back black men like Atlanta. The numbers
[29:26] Speaker 1: are there. I could go to so many places. But
[29:31] Speaker 1: what happens is. We might get hype. Oh, yeah, we're
[29:35] Speaker 1: going to look at person. But then, OK. And then
[29:38] Speaker 1: what ends up happening? You look at Chicago. Man, Negro
[29:42] Speaker 1: spent two years attacking Brandon Johnson. Brandon Johnson has been
[29:47] Speaker 1: killing it in Chicago. And the white power structure cannot
[29:52] Speaker 1: stand it. The white folks, the white conservatives in Baltimore
[29:56] Speaker 1: can't stand Brandon Scott. because he's been killing it and
[30:02] Speaker 1: they hate the fact that he's proven them wrong. I'm
[30:07] Speaker 1: telling you, I just wish, I just wish our folk
[30:10] Speaker 1: would understand if black people would understand black power, not
[30:18] Speaker 1: the slogan, not the t-shirt. Cause see, let me remind
[30:23] Speaker 1: y'all what Dr. King said.
[30:26] Speaker 14: Dr.
[30:26] Speaker 1: King said this in his book, Where do we go
[30:30] Speaker 1: from here? Chaos or community? That the king said black
[30:34] Speaker 1: power is a slogan. It's not an agenda. See, a
[30:41] Speaker 1: lot of people got that mixed up. See, a lot
[30:44] Speaker 1: of people thought that the king was hating on Stokely Carmichael.
[30:48] Speaker 1: He wasn't. What he was saying was is one thing
[30:52] Speaker 1: to chant black power. It's another thing to execute black power.
[31:00] Speaker 1: That's where many of us are. We're going to go
[31:02] Speaker 1: to a break. We're going to come back. We're going
[31:04] Speaker 1: to talk with Chris Toler, looking at voter data. Speaking of,
[31:08] Speaker 1: where are we? How are we turning out? Y'all see
[31:11] Speaker 1: me rocking my Vote Alpha shirt today. Hey, Michael, where's
[31:16] Speaker 1: your Vote Omega shirt? Where you at? Where you at?
[31:18] Speaker 1: Where you at?
[31:20] Speaker 3: I'll have it on next time for you, Roland.
[31:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
[31:22] Speaker 2: And I'll get you one.
[31:23] Speaker 1: I know you want one. Pass that shit to Henry.
[31:25] Speaker 1: You know damn well it ain't going to be worn here.
[31:27] Speaker 1: You know that. The only purple and gold you see
[31:30] Speaker 1: me everywhere on this show is Prairie View A & M.
[31:33] Speaker 2: That's it.
[31:34] Speaker 1: That's about it, son.
[31:36] Speaker 14: All right.
[31:37] Speaker 2: We'll be back.
[31:37] Speaker 1: Hey, folks, do me a favor. If y'all want to
[31:40] Speaker 1: get my book, Black Forward, preorder your copy right now.
[31:43] Speaker 1: Marching orders for the fight against Jim Crow 2.0. Y'all,
[31:47] Speaker 1: I lay it out clear as day what our strategy
[31:49] Speaker 1: has to be. Preorder the book right now. Again, my
[31:52] Speaker 1: goal is, you know, we want to make the nearest
[31:53] Speaker 1: time bestseller list so we can blacken that list up.
[31:57] Speaker 1: So we need to move about 15 to 20,000 copies
[32:00] Speaker 1: between now and February 2nd to make the list. And
[32:03] Speaker 1: so I want y'all to buy the book. And so
[32:05] Speaker 1: you can order it from black bookstores, mahoganybooks.com. Barnes & Noble, Amazon,
[32:12] Speaker 1: all sort of ways. So pre-order your book copy right now,
[32:15] Speaker 1: and I can't wait for y'all to read it. Also,
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[32:42] Speaker 2: They told Angie Nixon to sit down. She grabbed a bull.
[32:45] Speaker 3: I will not allow you to.
[32:48] Speaker 2: Destroy our democracy! They outspent her 16 to 1.
[32:52] Speaker 1: She won anyway.
[32:53] Speaker 2: They told us to get in line, but we knew better.
[32:55] Speaker 2: They didn't get the picture. Get the hell out of here.
[32:58] Speaker 2: You don't belong in America. So we put it in
[33:01] Speaker 2: living color. Don't feel heard? Grab a bullhorn. Want change?
[33:07] Speaker 7: Grab a ballot.
[33:13] Speaker 15: I'm Chris Jones, and I'm running against the most powerful
[33:16] Speaker 15: banker in Congress. Day one, I'll get busy disappointing some
[33:21] Speaker 15: of the most dangerous billionaires in America. I'll vote to
[33:25] Speaker 15: repeal Trump's tariffs and cut costs on goods and groceries.
[33:29] Speaker 15: End the war and bring down gas and diesel prices.
[33:32] Speaker 15: And I'll bring back the healthcare coverage that French Hill killed.
[33:36] Speaker 15: Because you shouldn't have to own the bank to live
[33:38] Speaker 15: in Arkansas. I'm Chris Jones, and I approve this message.
[33:43] Speaker 10: His father took the Klan to court, bankrupted them, then
[33:47] Speaker 10: ran Jesse Jackson's campaign for president twice. His mom is
[33:52] Speaker 10: in the Alabama State Senate right now. So when Shamari
[33:55] Speaker 10: figures fight for our hospitals, our water, our housing, it's
[33:59] Speaker 10: not politics.
[34:01] Speaker 2: It's in his blood.
[34:03] Speaker 10: They redrew the map to draw him and us out.
[34:06] Speaker 10: And that's exactly why we can't back down. Shamari figures.
[34:10] Speaker 10: Born ready. Vote November 3rd.
[34:12] Speaker 3: 92.
[34:14] Speaker 16: That's how many polling places Tarrant County just cut before
[34:17] Speaker 16: this election. Nobody works that hard to silence you unless
[34:20] Speaker 16: your voice is a threat. Rent keeps climbing. Care keeps
[34:23] Speaker 16: slipping out of reach. None of that is an accident.
[34:25] Speaker 16: In Harris County, Dr. Letitia Plummer. She spent her career
[34:29] Speaker 16: caring for patients. She knows health care is a right,
[34:32] Speaker 16: not a reward. In Fort Bend, Dexter McCoy. He raised
[34:36] Speaker 16: wages for county workers and won paid parental leave. and Taryn,
[34:40] Speaker 16: Elisa Simmons. When people kept dying in the county jail,
[34:43] Speaker 16: she demanded answers and a federal investigation. She never looked away.
[34:47] Speaker 1: Three leaders.
[34:48] Speaker 16: One fight. Justice that treats us like human beings. Paychecks
[34:52] Speaker 16: that cover the rent. Healthcare that doesn't depend on your
[34:55] Speaker 16: zip code. This is the Texas we're building, with Black
[34:57] Speaker 16: and Latino communities leading the way. Texas Organizing Project PAC
[35:01] Speaker 16: proudly endorses Dr. Letitia Plummer, Dexter McCoy, and Elisa Simmons.
[35:06] Speaker 2: Three judges.
[35:07] Speaker 16: One fight.
[35:08] Speaker 1: Our counties, our call.
[35:10] Speaker 14: When it comes to your electric bill, the law is
[35:13] Speaker 14: supposed to protect you. That's why I ruled against an
[35:16] Speaker 14: unfair utility rate hike that will.
[35:19] Speaker 7: Cost our families more.
[35:21] Speaker 14: You deserve honest math, fair prices, and a court that
[35:25] Speaker 14: follows the law to put people before profits.
[35:28] Speaker 7: I'm Justice Anita Earls. On the court, I hold everyone accountable.
[35:33] Speaker 14: No matter how rich or powerful. And I won't stop
[35:37] Speaker 14: until the law works for everyone.
[35:43] Speaker 17: This is Smokey Robinson, and you got just one vote.
[35:47] Speaker 2: Use it.
[36:04] Speaker 1: Folks, a Texas District Court judge denied a request for
[36:07] Speaker 1: a temporary order to reinstate 92 polling sites in Tarrant County.
[36:10] Speaker 1: That's where Fort Worth is. It is a major setback
[36:12] Speaker 1: for black and Hispanic workers. Tarrant County is their last
[36:15] Speaker 1: remaining large red county in Texas. Three black women and
[36:18] Speaker 1: one Hispanic woman filed a lawsuit earlier this month claiming
[36:21] Speaker 1: the cutting of poll sites disenfranchises Tarrant County voters. The
[36:24] Speaker 1: cuts mean longer commutes and waits to cast a ballot,
[36:27] Speaker 1: and they could lower voter turnout on Election Day, particularly
[36:30] Speaker 1: in low-income and minority neighborhoods. Judge Patrick Gallagher did not
[36:33] Speaker 1: give a reason for rejecting the request, but did not
[36:35] Speaker 1: dismiss the lawsuit completely. That means the case could return
[36:38] Speaker 1: to court after the midterm elections. Tarrant County Election Administrator
[36:42] Speaker 1: Clint Ludwig drafted the list of polling places to cut, frankly,
[36:45] Speaker 1: at the behest of Tarrant County Judge Tim O'Hare. He
[36:48] Speaker 1: acknowledged that he did not research how the reductions would
[36:51] Speaker 1: affect black, Hispanic, or low-income voters. Now, we know he's lying, y'all.
[36:56] Speaker 1: He's straight lying. We know exactly what they did. And
[36:59] Speaker 1: pull up Elisa Simmons. This is critical. Elisa Simmons, y'all,
[37:02] Speaker 1: who's the Tarrant County Commissioner, they gerrymandered her district, so
[37:06] Speaker 1: As opposed to having three Republicans and two Democrats, I
[37:08] Speaker 1: think it's going to be four to one. She's running
[37:11] Speaker 1: for Tarrant County judge against Tim O'Hare. Pull the top,
[37:15] Speaker 1: the Texas, the top ad. She's in it. We just
[37:18] Speaker 1: showed it. So Elisa Simmons. So I need y'all in
[37:20] Speaker 1: Fort Worth and Tarrant County. Y'all should be voting in
[37:23] Speaker 1: huge numbers for Elisa Simmons. Come on, y'all. Show the photo.
[37:27] Speaker 1: Elisa Simmons. It's a sister who's running for district attorney
[37:30] Speaker 1: there as well. Need to be voting for her as well.
[37:32] Speaker 1: And so I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling
[37:36] Speaker 1: you what needs to happen in terms of these races,
[37:41] Speaker 1: in terms of how we can use our power. There
[37:44] Speaker 1: are a lot of right there.
[37:44] Speaker 2: That's her.
[37:45] Speaker 1: Come on, put it. A lot of black folks, a
[37:46] Speaker 1: lot of black folks. That are in there in Fort
[37:49] Speaker 1: Worth are not turning out. That sister could be the
[37:51] Speaker 1: next judge. And so we got to be sitting here
[37:54] Speaker 1: using our power. And there are no excuses. There are
[37:57] Speaker 1: no excuses whatsoever. We're 19 days away from Election Day.
[38:02] Speaker 1: And you're seeing all sorts of things happen. And so
[38:05] Speaker 1: what we need to understand is, again, when we maximize
[38:09] Speaker 1: our numbers, trust me, we win. Joining us right now
[38:12] Speaker 1: is Christopher Tola, director of the Black Voter Project, co-founder
[38:14] Speaker 1: of Black Insights Research. Joining us from Sacramento, California. Chris,
[38:18] Speaker 1: we've got early voting already starting. We've got early voting
[38:21] Speaker 1: in Virginia, in Illinois. starting in other places. Just give
[38:24] Speaker 1: us a sense of the map, how you see it,
[38:27] Speaker 1: how things are bearing out from Michigan to the east,
[38:32] Speaker 1: to the south, to the west.
[38:35] Speaker 18: From what I've seen so far in early voting, all
[38:37] Speaker 18: the numbers suggest Democrats are outpacing Republicans.
[38:41] Speaker 3: In almost every corner of the map. They're outpacing even
[38:44] Speaker 3: Democratic turnout from 2022. And in some places, when you're.
[38:48] Speaker 18: Looking at black numbers and black turnout in early voting,
[38:51] Speaker 18: it's outpacing 2024. And so the push is there. The
[38:56] Speaker 18: campaigns have been working hard in a lot of parts
[38:58] Speaker 18: of the country to get people out to vote.
[39:00] Speaker 3: It's absolutely happening.
[39:03] Speaker 18: I think with black voters, as you said, the message
[39:05] Speaker 18: has to be clear to get out to the polls.
[39:08] Speaker 18: It's not a question as to who black voters are
[39:10] Speaker 18: going to vote for.
[39:11] Speaker 3: I think the choice has.
[39:12] Speaker 18: Been very clear, especially for the last two years between
[39:16] Speaker 18: Republicans and the GOP. There's no question there, but it's
[39:19] Speaker 18: whether or not there's enough to motivate.
[39:21] Speaker 3: People to get off the couch and get out.
[39:23] Speaker 18: Just kind of the same story we were saying in 2024,
[39:26] Speaker 18: but with even more urgency, considering two more years are
[39:29] Speaker 18: at stake.
[39:30] Speaker 3: Under this administration.
[39:32] Speaker 1: Mike Rogers in Michigan is running this ad of so-called
[39:36] Speaker 1: black voters saying they're going to vote against Al-Said. I'll
[39:39] Speaker 1: do Al-Said for him saying that Mike Rogers cares about
[39:43] Speaker 1: West Detroit. Al-Said cares about Palestine. And they think that's making. Hey,
[39:48] Speaker 1: what are you seeing when it comes to black voters
[39:50] Speaker 1: in Michigan?
[39:52] Speaker 18: Having talked directly to black voters in Detroit over the
[39:55] Speaker 18: last two years, the people in those ads are not
[39:58] Speaker 18: reflective of the sentiment among most, if not all, black
[40:02] Speaker 18: voters in Detroit and other parts of Michigan.
[40:05] Speaker 3: Black voters understand the stakes.
[40:07] Speaker 18: They understand the differences between the two parties. And just
[40:10] Speaker 18: as we saw with Mondami's election in New York and
[40:14] Speaker 18: as we're seeing with the statewide election in Texas, People
[40:19] Speaker 18: are saying some black voters are going to go to Paxton.
[40:22] Speaker 3: After Crockett left the race. Black voters are coming home
[40:24] Speaker 3: to the Democratic Party. They are not looking towards a
[40:28] Speaker 3: GOP in Michigan.
[40:29] Speaker 18: And the ad, if at all, it is.
[40:32] Speaker 3: Actually representing real voters. It's just representing a small sliver.
[40:36] Speaker 18: Of the black population in Michigan that might even be
[40:38] Speaker 18: considered in the GOP, where most voters, when we talk
[40:41] Speaker 18: to high propensity, likely voters, we talk to low propensity voters,
[40:44] Speaker 18: the choice is not really between Democrats or Republicans. For
[40:47] Speaker 18: many of them, it's between Democrats and the couch, Democrats
[40:51] Speaker 18: and apathy or.
[40:53] Speaker 3: Disillusionment and not really showing up at all. And so,
[40:56] Speaker 3: I saw that ad today. It was coupled with another
[40:59] Speaker 3: ad that.
[41:00] Speaker 18: Was put out where It essentially tried to clip part
[41:03] Speaker 18: of Al Saeed's speech saying that he was for the
[41:08] Speaker 18: West Bank over West Detroit. And so there's just a
[41:10] Speaker 18: lot of disingenuous material out there when it comes to
[41:14] Speaker 18: what the GOP is trying to portray Democratic candidates as.
[41:18] Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to have much traction.
[41:20] Speaker 18: But just as in 2024, all of these little efforts
[41:23] Speaker 18: could deter just enough voters to create a turnout gap
[41:27] Speaker 18: especially with black voters, that makes a difference, right?
[41:30] Speaker 3: Black voters often are.
[41:32] Speaker 18: The decisive vote in places like Michigan, where they make
[41:35] Speaker 18: up so much of the Democratic coalition.
[41:36] Speaker 3: And so if.
[41:37] Speaker 18: Black turnout is not at rates above 2024, hopefully rates
[41:42] Speaker 18: closer to 2020, then Democrats, even in this swing year
[41:47] Speaker 18: where Trump has such low favorability, still might have a
[41:49] Speaker 18: tough time eking out some of these tough victories.
[41:53] Speaker 1: That was there. When you look at after the Kalei decision,
[41:57] Speaker 1: we saw in the primary that black voters participation was
[42:00] Speaker 1: up all across the South. Do you expect that to
[42:03] Speaker 1: also happen in this primary? We're looking at races, of course,
[42:06] Speaker 1: in North Carolina, United States Senate race, Anita Earle Supreme
[42:09] Speaker 1: Court race. You've also got a critical state Senate race there.
[42:13] Speaker 1: You've got Justin Pearson running in Tennessee. You've got Angie
[42:16] Speaker 1: Nixon running for the United States Senate. David Jolly for
[42:19] Speaker 1: the governorship in Florida. What are you seeing, especially in
[42:22] Speaker 1: the South, Southeast?
[42:25] Speaker 18: I'm seeing that there's turnout increasing, registration rates have increased.
[42:30] Speaker 3: Black people are coming to the polls.
[42:31] Speaker 18: A lot of the work that our firm did around
[42:34] Speaker 18: 2024 suggested that black people, especially understanding the threat of Trump,
[42:40] Speaker 18: were gonna vote, right? And that it was a matter
[42:42] Speaker 18: of making Trump the center of the conversation. And for
[42:46] Speaker 18: the past two years, that's happened naturally with him as president.
[42:49] Speaker 18: And so turnout has increased and is jumping from 2024.
[42:53] Speaker 18: And so we're seeing that in places where Democrats should win,
[42:57] Speaker 18: they're going to win. And I expect to see some
[43:00] Speaker 18: sort of blue wave. There's no question about that. But again,
[43:05] Speaker 18: The size of the wave is going to in many
[43:07] Speaker 18: places come down to whether or not the black turnout
[43:10] Speaker 18: is looking similar to 2024, slightly above, closer to 2020
[43:15] Speaker 18: or more historic to the 2008 and 2012 elections under
[43:19] Speaker 18: Obama for Democrats to win some of these tougher statewide
[43:24] Speaker 18: races in Texas.
[43:26] Speaker 3: In Mississippi and even in Florida, right?
[43:29] Speaker 18: Those are places where Democrats haven't won in decades, if
[43:32] Speaker 18: not longer. And so in order to pull out some
[43:34] Speaker 18: victories there and flip seats in those states, you're going
[43:37] Speaker 18: to need to see Black turnout not just be above
[43:39] Speaker 18: where it was the last presidential election cycle, but significantly
[43:43] Speaker 18: above and at times historic. And it's going to take
[43:46] Speaker 18: a lot. And so we've still got a couple of
[43:48] Speaker 18: weeks until the election and it needs to be full force, right?
[43:51] Speaker 3: Get out the vote.
[43:53] Speaker 18: And stop worrying about these ads that say black voters
[43:56] Speaker 18: are going to choose Republicans, black voters are looking towards.
[43:59] Speaker 3: A Republican candidate. That's all just kind of out there
[44:02] Speaker 3: in left field. That's not reflective of reality whatsoever.
[44:04] Speaker 18: The message should all be about getting out the vote
[44:07] Speaker 18: to protect the black community from further assaults from this administration,
[44:10] Speaker 18: because they will be ramped up in years three and
[44:13] Speaker 18: four if the Trump administration is able to continue at the.
[44:16] Speaker 3: Pace it's going at without any political consequences.
[44:20] Speaker 1: Well, this is why these campaigns— and they don't understand— They've
[44:23] Speaker 1: got to invest money in black communities. Listen, they can't
[44:26] Speaker 1: just sit here and think that this affects the Republicans,
[44:29] Speaker 1: as well as Latino voters are going to put them
[44:30] Speaker 1: over the top and just assume black folks are going
[44:32] Speaker 1: to turn out. Again, they need massive turnout. They need,
[44:36] Speaker 1: as I keep saying, if you want a blue tsunami,
[44:38] Speaker 1: you need a black tsunami, which means you've got to
[44:40] Speaker 1: put money on the ground, you've got to be investing
[44:42] Speaker 1: in grassroots groups, you've got to be investing in black-owned media,
[44:46] Speaker 1: and again, they're doing the same mistake that I'm always saying,
[44:49] Speaker 1: bullshitting and waiting until the last two, three weeks of
[44:53] Speaker 1: the campaign when they should have been doing this since January,
[44:57] Speaker 1: but definitely since the primaries ended. And so they're going
[45:00] Speaker 1: to need a massive black turnout if they're going to
[45:03] Speaker 1: run the table. I'm looking at the United States Senate,
[45:06] Speaker 1: and I think the problem with Schumer and these guys
[45:08] Speaker 1: is they're looking at, oh, the Alaska race, the Iowa race,
[45:12] Speaker 1: the Maine race, and the Ohio race. But if you
[45:14] Speaker 1: put the resources in, yo, you could actually create the opportunities,
[45:19] Speaker 1: and Andy Nixon can win. Scott Colom is knocking on
[45:22] Speaker 1: the damn door. You got this one guy who's now
[45:26] Speaker 1: stepped in. He's now sending big money down to Florida
[45:30] Speaker 1: and Georgia, even for Keisha Lance Bottoms. It's like all
[45:34] Speaker 1: these people have woken up to realize that, damn, we
[45:36] Speaker 1: could actually win this. Yeah, but you got to make
[45:38] Speaker 1: an investment. And I just saw this here. Hell, Elon Musk,
[45:41] Speaker 1: as he's dropped $ 158 million into a does a PAC.
[45:49] Speaker 1: And there's a PAC that's literally funding a campaign. Elon
[45:56] Speaker 1: Musk has already given that PAC one hundred and fifty
[45:59] Speaker 1: eight million dollars. And they've sent that money from that
[46:02] Speaker 1: PAC over to over to the to the Paxton campaign.
[46:07] Speaker 1: That's what's going on here.
[46:11] Speaker 3: It's unfortunate.
[46:12] Speaker 18: You know, over the last couple of years, talking to
[46:15] Speaker 18: a lot of people in the campaign world and consultants,
[46:18] Speaker 18: there was a tendency to want to sit on their
[46:20] Speaker 18: hands rather than get active early in these things because
[46:24] Speaker 18: there was just kind of a shock at Trump's victory
[46:28] Speaker 18: and uncertainty around what was going to happen next and
[46:30] Speaker 18: how to respond to everything. When clearly, as you mentioned,
[46:33] Speaker 18: after 2024, the writing was on the wall, especially when
[46:36] Speaker 18: it came to black voters, which was to invest often
[46:38] Speaker 18: and invest early.
[46:40] Speaker 3: And we're seeing the same old trends.
[46:41] Speaker 18: And so, again, I'm excited about seeing a blue wave
[46:45] Speaker 18: and seeing Democrats take back a lot of seats and
[46:47] Speaker 18: win a lot of seats. But I'm also tempered my
[46:49] Speaker 18: expectations in some of these tougher states, because I'm As
[46:53] Speaker 18: is always the case, it very well may be too
[46:56] Speaker 18: little too late when you need black turnout to be
[46:59] Speaker 18: at or exceed levels of white turnout in some of
[47:00] Speaker 18: these states to take this, right? In a state like Mississippi,
[47:03] Speaker 18: you're going to need black turnout to be.
[47:05] Speaker 3: Higher than the.
[47:08] Speaker 18: Percent of black people in the electorate for black voters
[47:10] Speaker 18: to make that shift, to push that candidate over the
[47:14] Speaker 18: one to two percent threshold that they need to win.
[47:16] Speaker 3: The statewide election. And so it's possible.
[47:19] Speaker 2: I'm optimistic.
[47:20] Speaker 18: But I'm also seeing, as you said, some of these
[47:22] Speaker 18: same patterns that need to be adjusted and they need
[47:24] Speaker 18: to be needed to be adjusted months ago. And so
[47:27] Speaker 18: we can't keep learning this lesson, especially as we look
[47:29] Speaker 18: forward to 2028, as whatever presidential campaign gets selected needs
[47:35] Speaker 18: to hit the ground running and invest as soon as
[47:37] Speaker 18: possible getting black voters out. We've seen the past two years,
[47:41] Speaker 18: black voters are absolutely activated by the Trump presidency. There's
[47:46] Speaker 18: a clear urgency and identity within black voters that They
[47:52] Speaker 18: need to do something that they need to.
[47:54] Speaker 3: Get out and vote.
[47:55] Speaker 18: The mode is different than it was in 2024, but
[47:58] Speaker 18: that's only half the battle, right? The campaigns also have
[48:00] Speaker 18: to get the rest of the black electorate out. And
[48:03] Speaker 18: in many of these cases, as we said, they have
[48:05] Speaker 18: to get out people that weren't voting in 2024 or
[48:08] Speaker 18: that might have not voted before.
[48:09] Speaker 1: You know, the thing that sits here pisses me off
[48:14] Speaker 1: with folks who don't understand this. I look at North Carolina,
[48:17] Speaker 1: the Republicans, because they've moved the power from the governor
[48:20] Speaker 1: to the state auditor. because they had a lock of
[48:24] Speaker 1: the legislature. That means they now control the elections board. Well,
[48:29] Speaker 1: the elections board there, the reason today students from North
[48:32] Speaker 1: Carolina A & T are marching to the polls is
[48:34] Speaker 1: because they have denied early voting locations on the A &
[48:37] Speaker 1: T campus in UNC Greensboro. So this is why we
[48:41] Speaker 1: kept telling the folk, if you actually vote, if you
[48:44] Speaker 1: all of a sudden use your power, then we are,
[48:46] Speaker 1: and Republicans don't control the legislature, no super majority in
[48:50] Speaker 1: North Carolina, no supermajority in Florida, no supermajority in Texas,
[48:54] Speaker 1: no supermajority in Louisiana, then you can actually change this
[48:57] Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But why do they have these supermajorities?
[48:59] Speaker 1: Because folks aren't voting.
[49:01] Speaker 18: And we're at a period in history where we have
[49:06] Speaker 18: to really recognize the significance of this moment.
[49:10] Speaker 3: And this takes studying some history as well, understanding.
[49:13] Speaker 18: That there was a Reconstruction period where Black registration rates
[49:17] Speaker 18: equaled those of whites, and then that ended rapidly with
[49:20] Speaker 18: the return of white supremacy to the South. And we
[49:23] Speaker 18: didn't see black registration, voter registration rates come close to
[49:26] Speaker 18: white voter registration rates until the end of the 1900s,
[49:30] Speaker 18: almost the turn of the 21st century, after decades following
[49:35] Speaker 18: the Voting Rights Act. and the passage of protections for voters.
[49:39] Speaker 18: And then following the 2013 Shelby v. Holder decision, we're
[49:43] Speaker 18: moving in the opposite direction, where voting rates, registration rates are.
[49:47] Speaker 3: Dropping to a point where we might be.
[49:50] Speaker 18: Reversing the progress that was made in this election, the
[49:54] Speaker 18: next election, and probably the next few elections are going
[49:56] Speaker 18: to be decisive moments in modern American politics when it
[50:00] Speaker 18: comes to whether or not we push forward with an
[50:02] Speaker 18: expansive view trying to maintain a multicultural, multiracial democracy, or
[50:07] Speaker 18: whether we're reversing course back to a long period, however long,
[50:12] Speaker 18: of depressed voting and an exclusive voting system that prioritizes
[50:17] Speaker 18: white voters and excludes and oppresses black voters.
[50:29] Speaker 1: Let's go. Questions from the panel. Jolanda, you first.
[50:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've got a question, Mr. Toler.
[50:37] Speaker 12: I've heard from, there's actually early voting going on in
[50:41] Speaker 12: some states already, right, for the November 2026 elections. And
[50:45] Speaker 12: I heard you say that you've, I guess, talked to
[50:49] Speaker 12: people or polled people or gotten data that shows that
[50:53] Speaker 12: black people are absolutely motivated to go out and vote
[50:56] Speaker 12: against Trump. But I've heard from people who said that
[51:00] Speaker 12: in the early voting states right now, where they are
[51:03] Speaker 12: looking at exit data, that people aren't massively going to
[51:07] Speaker 12: the polls like we had hoped they would. And if
[51:11] Speaker 12: the trends stay where they are right now, then Democrats
[51:15] Speaker 12: are not.
[51:15] Speaker 2: Going to win what we think they're going to win.
[51:18] Speaker 12: So where is your data coming from and what explanation
[51:22] Speaker 12: do you have for that?
[51:24] Speaker 18: So the data that I've seen most recently comes from
[51:27] Speaker 18: Target Smart, and it has to do with sort of
[51:29] Speaker 18: the early vote and registration rates based on party and race.
[51:34] Speaker 3: And at this point, they break it down by gender.
[51:37] Speaker 18: And in most of the states that they've looked at
[51:39] Speaker 18: when it comes to these elections, the rate of early
[51:43] Speaker 18: voting for Democrats and for Black Democrats is exceeding that
[51:46] Speaker 18: of 2022 and in some places exceeding that of 2024.
[51:50] Speaker 18: And so the early data suggests that in most places,
[51:54] Speaker 18: Black people are turning out to vote at rates that
[51:57] Speaker 18: are equal to or higher than that in the past.
[51:59] Speaker 18: And so it's a positive outlook. However, at the same time,
[52:02] Speaker 18: as I've talked to voters, and this is through focus
[52:05] Speaker 18: groups and interviews and some polling over the last couple
[52:08] Speaker 18: of years, it's clear that the voters that are turning
[52:11] Speaker 18: out to vote are high propensity, likely voters, people who
[52:14] Speaker 18: are engaged, who might have not been as excited or
[52:18] Speaker 18: enthusiastic to vote in 2024, and are right there now,
[52:22] Speaker 18: understanding there's even more urgency than before. But there's a
[52:26] Speaker 18: group of black voters who are not likely to vote,
[52:29] Speaker 18: who are low propensity voters, who are the voters that
[52:31] Speaker 18: we needed in 2024.
[52:32] Speaker 3: To get out over that hump. And we're going to.
[52:35] Speaker 18: Absolutely need to win some of these closer statewide races.
[52:38] Speaker 3: That are less convinced.
[52:40] Speaker 18: And they're not necessarily out there excited voting early, but
[52:43] Speaker 18: they're the ones that need to get to the polls
[52:46] Speaker 18: over these next couple of weeks to win, as was mentioned,
[52:49] Speaker 18: close statewide elections in places like Texas, Florida, Mississippi, and
[52:53] Speaker 18: even Michigan. And so there's kind of a dual electorate
[52:56] Speaker 18: within the black community. It's not just one type of voter.
[52:58] Speaker 18: There's you know, likely and unlikely voters within the black
[53:02] Speaker 18: community that are motivated and mobilized by different things. And
[53:05] Speaker 18: so as we look towards the election, it's going to
[53:08] Speaker 18: seem like we are moving forward in an optimistic way,
[53:12] Speaker 18: but there's still going to be some close races that
[53:14] Speaker 18: are going to depend on voters who are not traditionally
[53:17] Speaker 18: part of the electorate coming into the voting sphere and
[53:20] Speaker 18: making that decision to vote when they otherwise wouldn't to
[53:23] Speaker 18: tip some of these tougher scales.
[53:25] Speaker 3: And so I think we're absolutely.
[53:27] Speaker 18: Going to see Democrats take a lot of seats back.
[53:30] Speaker 3: I think they're going to win the House.
[53:32] Speaker 1: I think they're going to.
[53:32] Speaker 18: Come close to the Senate. But to guarantee an overwhelming
[53:34] Speaker 18: majority in the House and to have a very comfortable
[53:38] Speaker 18: Senate majority, like a 52 to 48 majority in the Senate,
[53:42] Speaker 18: it's going to take more than just a sort of
[53:45] Speaker 18: excitement amongst your usual electorate. You're going to have to
[53:47] Speaker 18: expand the electorate and bring in voters who otherwise wouldn't
[53:51] Speaker 18: be there and who haven't voted in the last few elections.
[53:56] Speaker 1: Michael.
[53:59] Speaker 3: First, keep up the good work.
[54:02] Speaker 11: And what kind of things do you say to folks
[54:05] Speaker 11: that say, oh, well, my vote won't matter. And since
[54:09] Speaker 11: it won't matter, I really don't need to go vote.
[54:11] Speaker 11: Nothing's going to change because clearly we all hear those
[54:15] Speaker 11: arguments from people. So what is your message to that?
[54:18] Speaker 11: So we all know what to say in the last
[54:21] Speaker 11: two and a half, three weeks.
[54:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's That's a really good point.
[54:24] Speaker 18: When we talked to voters in Detroit specifically, amongst the
[54:28] Speaker 18: low propensity group, that was a lot of what people
[54:31] Speaker 18: were talking about, is that they weren't uninterested. They were
[54:35] Speaker 18: actually very interested in politics. And many people who didn't
[54:37] Speaker 18: vote often were very knowledgeable about politics and knew about
[54:41] Speaker 18: politicians and policy, but they were alienated.
[54:44] Speaker 3: They felt like the system had failed them and they
[54:46] Speaker 3: felt like their vote didn't matter and that even if they.
[54:50] Speaker 18: Voted for an elected representative and they won, they would
[54:52] Speaker 18: get little return.
[54:54] Speaker 3: And so two things to that. One, in this day
[54:57] Speaker 3: and age.
[54:57] Speaker 18: And in this political environment, it's just as important to
[55:00] Speaker 18: tell voters that your vote can be protected just as
[55:02] Speaker 18: much as prescriptive. And that even though it might not
[55:06] Speaker 18: seem like there's a lot that Democrats can do right now,
[55:09] Speaker 18: simply resisting the harm that can be done to the
[55:11] Speaker 18: black community by the Trump administration, by MAGA.
[55:14] Speaker 3: Republicans makes it worthwhile, right? And that the removal.
[55:18] Speaker 18: Of black jobs from the economy over the last few years,
[55:22] Speaker 18: the elimination of DEI policies, the ramping up of policing
[55:27] Speaker 18: and authority presence in black communities are things that are
[55:31] Speaker 18: harmful regardless of whether or not you vote.
[55:34] Speaker 3: But if you vote, you can prevent those things.
[55:36] Speaker 18: And so using your vote as a protective measure and
[55:38] Speaker 18: to prevent more harm is extremely important. And then secondly,
[55:43] Speaker 18: trying to instill in them the idea of politics as
[55:46] Speaker 18: being sort.
[55:47] Speaker 3: Of a long game.
[55:48] Speaker 18: And that once you vote, it shouldn't be the first
[55:50] Speaker 18: and last time you vote, but you should continue to vote,
[55:52] Speaker 18: understanding that if you can turn the tide in this election,
[55:56] Speaker 18: you can give your representatives and your community an opportunity
[55:59] Speaker 18: to change.
[56:00] Speaker 3: Things in the next election and down the road.
[56:02] Speaker 18: And that it's not just sort of a short-term, one-time thing,
[56:06] Speaker 18: that voting should be a commitment that you do throughout
[56:09] Speaker 18: your life, understanding that politics moves slowly, right? And these
[56:15] Speaker 18: wheels turn at a pace where it's going to take
[56:17] Speaker 18: time to see returns. But more than anything else, you
[56:20] Speaker 18: can at least prevent further damage in this time and age.
[56:25] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[56:25] Speaker 3: Keep up the good work.
[56:26] Speaker 2: Greg?
[56:28] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[56:30] Speaker 2: Thank you, Roland. And thanks, as always, Prof. Toler.
[56:34] Speaker 13: You know, as they get more desperate, we saw today,
[56:36] Speaker 13: of course, that this Bozo Trump, his administration has sued
[56:41] Speaker 13: California over these 20,000 folks. They said they're likely non-citizens
[56:44] Speaker 13: or whatever. They're throwing everything at the wall. What's your sense—
[56:49] Speaker 13: particularly as he's traveling the country now, sounding increasingly unhinged,
[56:53] Speaker 13: at the impact this might have on his quote-unquote base,
[56:57] Speaker 13: those who are not really voting on policy, but on
[57:01] Speaker 13: that kind of vibe, that kind of white nationalism, whatever.
[57:04] Speaker 13: But as he gets increasingly unhinged, do you imagine that
[57:07] Speaker 13: there may be a dampening of turnout on the white
[57:11] Speaker 13: national side, the Republican side? And also, as it comes
[57:14] Speaker 13: to voter turnout, Because, you know, I think I read
[57:16] Speaker 13: something the other day where many of these hundreds of
[57:18] Speaker 13: millions that that Musk is dumping into this campaign, these
[57:22] Speaker 13: campaigns is going to be aimed, targeted at turning out
[57:27] Speaker 13: the electorate. What's your sense of the number of people
[57:31] Speaker 13: who are early voting that might be taking away from
[57:35] Speaker 13: the number of people who vote on the day? Or
[57:37] Speaker 13: is there any correlation between early voting and voting on
[57:40] Speaker 13: the day?
[57:41] Speaker 2: And thanks again. I echo what Michael said. Thanks for
[57:44] Speaker 2: your work. Always proud. Absolutely.
[57:47] Speaker 18: I appreciate the feedback. So to answer your first question,
[57:50] Speaker 18: from the research that's been done on my own and others,
[57:54] Speaker 18: looking at Trump and the MAGA movement, even going back
[57:57] Speaker 18: to the Tea Party in the early 2000s, starting with
[58:03] Speaker 18: the first Obama term, The MAGA faithfuls and sort of
[58:06] Speaker 18: the far right true believers, if you will, are going
[58:10] Speaker 18: to kind of ramp up as things become more desperate
[58:14] Speaker 18: for the Trump administration. And one of the things that
[58:17] Speaker 18: has driven this movement from the beginning has been an
[58:20] Speaker 18: anxiety about losing sort of their foothold on America. This
[58:24] Speaker 18: is where the American America great again kind of slogan
[58:27] Speaker 18: comes from, this understanding that we need to go back
[58:30] Speaker 18: to a time when white people, when white identity was
[58:33] Speaker 18: prioritized and was on top. And so if that feels
[58:36] Speaker 18: like that's slipping away here in this election or as
[58:39] Speaker 18: we move into the latter years of Trump, these Trump
[58:42] Speaker 18: true believers, these MAGA Republicans are going to kind of
[58:46] Speaker 18: become more desperate and more anxious and paranoid about what's
[58:50] Speaker 18: going to happen to them and to the country going forward,
[58:53] Speaker 18: which actually will likely drive them to participate more, whether
[58:57] Speaker 18: that's voting or as we've seen right, in 2020, other
[59:01] Speaker 18: means of protest and rebellion and even riots and violence.
[59:06] Speaker 18: And so the true believers, those desperately attached to Trump
[59:10] Speaker 18: and the identity that he brings to American politics, are
[59:14] Speaker 18: going to get even more desperate if things start to
[59:17] Speaker 18: fall apart further for him and his administration. What he
[59:20] Speaker 18: will lose, though, is the people on the fringes, the
[59:23] Speaker 18: people who had attached to his movement thinking that they
[59:26] Speaker 18: would have some sort of monumental benefit from the movement
[59:29] Speaker 18: who haven't seen that, who aren't necessarily true.
[59:32] Speaker 3: Believers, but who haven't really found any other option appealing.
[59:36] Speaker 18: They are going to sink back into the unlikely sort
[59:39] Speaker 18: of conservative electorate.
[59:41] Speaker 3: And that could make a difference.
[59:42] Speaker 18: When it comes to the second question, your early voting,
[59:45] Speaker 18: I think that so far what we've seen is that
[59:48] Speaker 18: the majority of early voters are older. And a lot
[59:51] Speaker 18: of places, 60, 65 plus make up, you know, a third,
[59:56] Speaker 18: if not more, close to half of the early votes.
[59:59] Speaker 3: And so we're not going to see necessarily any type
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: of shift there.
[1:00:03] Speaker 18: One way or the other, unless, again, some of these
[1:00:06] Speaker 18: campaigns were able to bring out an unusual amount of
[1:00:09] Speaker 18: younger voters, of unlikely voters, of people who aren't typically
[1:00:13] Speaker 18: considered part of the traditional electorate. And so there's not
[1:00:17] Speaker 18: really going to be, in my prediction, any type of
[1:00:19] Speaker 18: shift On Election Day, again, unless we see some dramatic
[1:00:24] Speaker 18: effects from an extreme amount of money poured into these
[1:00:27] Speaker 18: campaigns or from campaigns specifically targeting younger voters, which I
[1:00:31] Speaker 18: can't think of any in particular, that's going to make
[1:00:34] Speaker 18: a difference.
[1:00:34] Speaker 3: I do know that in some states, California being one
[1:00:37] Speaker 3: of them.
[1:00:38] Speaker 18: People are being encouraged to vote on Election Day, are
[1:00:41] Speaker 18: being encouraged to drop their ballots off if they have
[1:00:43] Speaker 18: mail-in voting, because there's been a great deal of skepticism
[1:00:46] Speaker 18: around ballots being accurately and confidently delivered by the Postal
[1:00:51] Speaker 18: Service with this election. And so that could be the
[1:00:53] Speaker 18: one thing in certain states that have mail-in elections that
[1:00:56] Speaker 18: might drive a difference if you do see a whole
[1:00:59] Speaker 18: bunch of people dropping off their ballots or going to
[1:01:01] Speaker 18: vote on Election Day to avoid putting them.
[1:01:03] Speaker 3: In the mail.
[1:01:04] Speaker 18: But in other states where mail in voting isn't necessarily
[1:01:07] Speaker 18: a huge deal or a major factor, I don't see
[1:01:10] Speaker 18: too much change.
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: All right, then, Chris, it is going to be again,
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a nail biter. We
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: need every single vote possible. And I'm telling you right now,
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: if black folks maximize the vote, Keisha Lance Bottoms will
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: be the first black woman elected governor in this country.
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: I think on that night, again, if black folks in
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: Milwaukee and other places max out, David Crowley will be
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: elected governor in Wisconsin. Aaron Ford will be elected governor
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: in Nevada. And I'm telling you right now, the backs
[1:01:40] Speaker 1: of the GOP could be broken if Sherrod Brown wins
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: in Ohio. I need Sherrod Brown's campaign that will start
[1:01:47] Speaker 1: paying attention to black people. Other organizations are trying to
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: shore up black support because he ain't been funding the
[1:01:52] Speaker 1: stuff that's happening there. Telerico campaign. They should be even
[1:01:55] Speaker 1: more aggressive in the final 20 days of the campaign.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: They should be really hitting Houston, Dallas, East Texas, Fort Worth,
[1:02:03] Speaker 1: hitting those places hard because they've got to run up
[1:02:05] Speaker 1: The reality of the Tallarico campaign, he needs to run
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: up huge numbers in Harris County, in Dallas County, in
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: Travis County, in Tarrant County as well to offset likely
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: what's going to happen on the smaller counties. And again,
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: if he's able to get a big swing, a big
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: turnout of Hispanic voters in South Texas, massive turnout of
[1:02:26] Speaker 1: black voters in those counties and picking up anywhere from
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: 35 to 38 percent of white votes, he beats Ken Paxton.
[1:02:34] Speaker 1: And so they should be going hard right now. They
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: should be dispatching black surrogates all over those places. And
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: not only that, what you also have, you've got a
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: black woman running for Harris County judge. You've got a
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: black man running for Fort Bend County judge, Tarrant County judge.
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: You've got black folks running for DA, judicial positions as well.
[1:02:51] Speaker 1: And so what I need people to understand, we're talking
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: top to bottom. You've got constitutional amendments on the ballot
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: in Virginia. You've got all these things happening. This is
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: what's going on in this election. And so again, It
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: could lead to a blue tsunami. But I keep saying
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: to black folks, I want a black tsunami. I want
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: to see minimum 70 percent black participation turning out. I
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: don't want to see those red counties in Florida dominating
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: turnout in Broward County, in Miami-Dade County being down in
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: the 54 to 58 percent. No, I need to see
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: our turnout getting 70, 75, 80, 85 percent so we
[1:03:27] Speaker 1: can make it perfectly clear what our power is.
[1:03:32] Speaker 18: Yeah, Congress and so many state governments and state legislatures
[1:03:35] Speaker 18: could look completely different after this election if black turnout
[1:03:39] Speaker 18: is at, you know, historic rates is much higher than
[1:03:43] Speaker 18: it was in the past. And if black people get
[1:03:44] Speaker 18: out and get to the polls and that can make
[1:03:46] Speaker 18: a tremendous difference in the Trump administration's ability to continue
[1:03:50] Speaker 18: to do harm to this country, and especially the black
[1:03:53] Speaker 18: people in the next two years and ultimately change the
[1:03:56] Speaker 18: direction of our democracy.
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, Chris Tolibian, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
[1:04:02] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: Folks, the ads are coming fast and furious. This one group, boy,
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: they are slamming Cindy Hyde-Smith in Mississippi. Watch this.
[1:04:11] Speaker 19: Cindy Hyde-Smith told Mississippi she can't understand why everyone's.
[1:04:14] Speaker 3: Head is exploding.
[1:04:16] Speaker 1: But we understand.
[1:04:17] Speaker 19: You promised nothing would happen to Medicaid. Then you voted
[1:04:20] Speaker 19: to cut it, to pay for tax breaks for people
[1:04:22] Speaker 19: making over 600 grand a year. And you voted to
[1:04:26] Speaker 19: cover up the files of child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. So,
[1:04:30] Speaker 19: Senator Hadsmith, Mississippi doesn't need an explanation.
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: We need a.
[1:04:34] Speaker 19: Senator who understands us. New Deal for All Inc. is
[1:04:38] Speaker 19: responsible for the content of this advertising.
[1:04:40] Speaker 1: Of course, Scott Colombo two days ago dropped this ad,
[1:04:43] Speaker 1: which I think is brilliant.
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: Some beef continuing to go up.
[1:04:47] Speaker 3: You know, you have so many proteins to choose from.
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: Pick another protein?
[1:04:51] Speaker 3: Shit, I'd rather pick another senator instead. Pick another protein.
[1:04:58] Speaker 20: She done lost her damn mind.
[1:05:00] Speaker 3: I'd rather pick another senator.
[1:05:03] Speaker 7: Pick another protein?
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: What the?
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: Pick another senator instead.
[1:05:12] Speaker 1: Jelana, you got a kick out of that, huh?
[1:05:15] Speaker 12: That was the best commercial I've seen in a long time.
[1:05:20] Speaker 12: That commercial speaks to black people. And I also think
[1:05:23] Speaker 12: it speaks to other people. So that's a good commercial.
[1:05:26] Speaker 12: And a lot of these people that have white consultants
[1:05:28] Speaker 12: need to take lessons.
[1:05:31] Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Michael?
[1:05:33] Speaker 2: Great commercial.
[1:05:34] Speaker 3: I don't know what to say.
[1:05:35] Speaker 11: I know, Roland, you were about to start doing your
[1:05:38] Speaker 11: little Rapper's Delight commercial. song, like you like to sing.
[1:05:42] Speaker 11: I know you know every single solitary word.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: Well, you know, everybody should. That was the first big
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: rap hit. Like, your ass don't know. You were 45
[1:05:53] Speaker 1: when the song came out.
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: Greg?
[1:05:56] Speaker 3: Greg?
[1:05:58] Speaker 2: Hey, listen, me too, brother. It's funny, man.
[1:06:01] Speaker 13: My young people at Howard don't know those songs. I mean,
[1:06:05] Speaker 13: they kind of vaguely think much less chic. But that
[1:06:08] Speaker 13: ad is just kiss interracial, multiracial. The cussing is right on. And,
[1:06:15] Speaker 13: you know, that's going to be the coalition that will
[1:06:18] Speaker 13: propel Scott Cohen to the U.S.
[1:06:20] Speaker 3: Senate.
[1:06:22] Speaker 2: And that's the way you do it. It's time to
[1:06:23] Speaker 2: take the gloves off.
[1:06:24] Speaker 13: The way Ossoff has been absolutely lacerating that man in Georgia.
[1:06:29] Speaker 13: Colum is a nice guy, but he's short. And in
[1:06:32] Speaker 13: that case, you ain't got to say it, bro. Just
[1:06:34] Speaker 13: let them other people say it. Keep those white women
[1:06:36] Speaker 13: saying what the fuck as they pulling out of the
[1:06:39] Speaker 13: refrigerator there at the 7-Eleven or wherever they are.
[1:06:42] Speaker 2: Let them speak for you. I think that'll put a
[1:06:44] Speaker 2: dent in it.
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: You know, some candidates don't have any historical reference. This
[1:06:49] Speaker 1: is from the debate for the Los Angeles mayor's race.
[1:06:52] Speaker 1: And this so-called progressive running against incumbent mayor Karen Bass,
[1:06:58] Speaker 1: clearly her ass was not paying attention.
[1:07:01] Speaker 13: Listen.
[1:07:02] Speaker 19: This city used to be the gold standard in terms
[1:07:05] Speaker 19: of non-cooperation with immigration enforcement.
[1:07:07] Speaker 7: Years ago, under the era of Daryl.
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: Gates, this city used to be the gold standard.
[1:07:13] Speaker 21: Chief Gates was a very forceful and aggressive police chief.
[1:07:17] Speaker 2: This city used to be the gold standard.
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: You got to be a damn fool, Greg, to be
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: citing Daryl Gates saying the city was the gold standard
[1:07:28] Speaker 1: for law and order when that racist was absolutely awful
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: and the LAPD was completely at war with black and
[1:07:36] Speaker 1: brown people.
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
[1:07:40] Speaker 13: Or believable, depending on which one of them, as you
[1:07:43] Speaker 13: call them, smart-ass white boys paid you. Which one of
[1:07:46] Speaker 13: them did you pay to say that stupidity? Remember Damien
[1:07:49] Speaker 13: Football Williams and the whole thing when Reginald Denny was
[1:07:52] Speaker 13: pulled out of his truck there at the corner of
[1:07:54] Speaker 13: Florence and Normandy? And when Darryl Gates ran down in there,
[1:07:57] Speaker 13: Darryl Gates, he of the batter ram, as he knocked
[1:08:00] Speaker 13: down people's houses, alleging that he was involved in a
[1:08:02] Speaker 13: war on crack. All these stopped by the L.A. PD
[1:08:06] Speaker 13: when they arrested Darryl Football Williams and Gates got in
[1:08:11] Speaker 13: for the photo op. And he said, you're going down, football.
[1:08:14] Speaker 13: Damian Williams said, you're going down, Chief Gates. Black people
[1:08:18] Speaker 13: ain't forgotten who Daryl Gates is. She must want to
[1:08:21] Speaker 13: lose this election.
[1:08:22] Speaker 2: But whichever smart ass white boy she paid, she didn't
[1:08:24] Speaker 2: get her money back for that because that was 180
[1:08:27] Speaker 2: degrees opposite of what she should be running on the airwaves.
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: Londa, she deserves to get excoriated.
[1:08:36] Speaker 12: She deserves to get excoriated, but here's what I'm trying
[1:08:39] Speaker 12: to say. The whole world before, um, before what happened
[1:08:47] Speaker 12: in Minneapolis to a Yates graduate, right?
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: What name do we know?
[1:08:54] Speaker 12: Rodney King, the whole world knew Rodney King, the whole
[1:08:58] Speaker 12: world saw Rodney King, get beat. And Daryl Gates was
[1:09:04] Speaker 12: a police chief then, if my memory serves me correctly.
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: So she's supposed to be progressive. Is that what you said?
[1:09:12] Speaker 1: She seemed more like.
[1:09:14] Speaker 12: A Republican talking head, at least with that little sound
[1:09:17] Speaker 12: bite that you showed me. But if she is, she
[1:09:21] Speaker 12: is failing the progressive test. And the truth is, it's
[1:09:25] Speaker 12: so easy to go check, like when people say stuff,
[1:09:29] Speaker 12: like in real time. And so I'm almost embarrassed for
[1:09:34] Speaker 12: her that she is debating someone and she wants someone
[1:09:38] Speaker 12: to take her seriously. when she literally has no idea.
[1:09:44] Speaker 12: And in case you didn't know what name I was
[1:09:45] Speaker 12: talking about before Rodney King, George Floyd. The world knows
[1:09:50] Speaker 12: George Floyd. The world knew Rodney King. I think that
[1:09:54] Speaker 12: was probably the first televised beating. Girl, get your facts straight,
[1:09:58] Speaker 12: because we damn sure don't take you seriously.
[1:10:00] Speaker 1: Michael.
[1:10:00] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[1:10:04] Speaker 11: As Greg mentioned, it's unfortunate that whoever... she hired to
[1:10:11] Speaker 11: do that ad or whoever she's getting advice from.
[1:10:14] Speaker 1: No, that wasn't an ad. That came out of her
[1:10:16] Speaker 1: mouth in a debate.
[1:10:19] Speaker 11: Oh, well, that's even worse. That's even worse to not
[1:10:23] Speaker 11: understand the history of Los Angeles.
[1:10:26] Speaker 2: It didn't matter who the chief.
[1:10:28] Speaker 11: Of police were at the particular time in history. LAPD
[1:10:33] Speaker 11: has always been tough on black and brown folks in
[1:10:37] Speaker 11: the Latino community in Los Angeles. The fact that she's
[1:10:40] Speaker 11: running for mayor and didn't know that and would have
[1:10:43] Speaker 11: that as one of her talking points on her index
[1:10:46] Speaker 11: card at that debate she should be ashamed of herself.
[1:10:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but again, maybe in your community where you
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: view Daryl Gates as being amazing, Maybe that's part of
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[1:11:36] Speaker 2: Back in a moment. On price of beef continuing to
[1:11:42] Speaker 2: go up.
[1:11:43] Speaker 3: You know, you have so many proteins to choose from.
[1:11:45] Speaker 3: Pick another protein? Shit, I'd rather pick another senator instead.
[1:11:51] Speaker 3: Pick another protein?
[1:11:53] Speaker 7: She done lost her damn mind. I'd rather pick another senator.
[1:11:58] Speaker 1: Pick another protein?
[1:12:00] Speaker 2: What the? Pick another senator instead. I'm David Jolly, running
[1:12:10] Speaker 2: for governor. Byron Donalds is a liar.
[1:12:13] Speaker 22: I don't support a hurricane tax, taxes on your social security,
[1:12:17] Speaker 22: oil drilling, or socialism. I'm running for governor to cut
[1:12:20] Speaker 22: your homeowner's insurance by 60%, to ensure you can afford
[1:12:24] Speaker 22: health care and gas and food, to invest in good
[1:12:27] Speaker 22: schools for our kids, and to stop data centers. You see,
[1:12:31] Speaker 22: Byron Donalds lies for the special interest to control him.
[1:12:34] Speaker 3: I'll fight for you.
[1:12:38] Speaker 1: All right, folks, let me get personal for a second.
[1:12:40] Speaker 1: My mom had questions about her Medicare, so she called Chapter,
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[1:12:47] Speaker 1: saying it's a great benefit. It was easy, a real
[1:12:50] Speaker 1: person walked her through the whole thing, and now she
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: understands better what's going on.
[1:12:55] Speaker 3: But it's also not just her.
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: A woman in Yonkers wrote in saying the process was
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: so simple, the enrollment was easy, and she was so
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: glad she called. Then there's Marilyn, 90 years old in Florida,
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: living on Social Security. Her premium climbed every single year
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: north of $ 400 a month for coverage she could barely
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[1:13:13] Speaker 2: So what does she do?
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[1:13:57] Speaker 1: In times like this.
[1:14:08] Speaker 16: We need people willing to speak truth to power.
[1:14:12] Speaker 23: Justin Pearson stands up to power. He stands up for us,
[1:14:17] Speaker 23: for our communities, for our future. Send Justin Pearson to
[1:14:21] Speaker 23: Congress because we need change. Make your statement.
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: Fight for change. Justin Pearson for Congress. Vote on or
[1:14:33] Speaker 2: before November 30th.
[1:14:38] Speaker 5: Jeffrey Osborne, hey, you got one vote. Use it.
[1:14:52] Speaker 1: All right, y'all. It's been some quite interesting week of debates, boy.
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: So check this out. Remember the John Ossoff debate with
[1:15:07] Speaker 1: Mike Collins when they were throwing down. Remember when Ossoff
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: hit Collins for this?
[1:15:14] Speaker 24: How weak a person do you have to be to
[1:15:18] Speaker 24: be unable to stop someone under your own roof? from
[1:15:23] Speaker 24: disseminating neo-Nazi propaganda while you run for the Senate. The
[1:15:28] Speaker 24: paper reported it's still going on to this day. How
[1:15:30] Speaker 24: about this, Mike? We can shake hands on it. Will
[1:15:33] Speaker 24: you commit tonight that for the remainder of this campaign,
[1:15:37] Speaker 24: it's just three weeks, Mike, you won't allow any more
[1:15:41] Speaker 24: neo-Nazi propaganda to be produced from your house?
[1:15:48] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[1:15:49] Speaker 1: That was hilarious. It was a matter of fact that
[1:15:53] Speaker 1: that were that were up. First of all, they had
[1:15:55] Speaker 1: a couple of debates and he just kept. hammering him
[1:15:59] Speaker 1: and hammering him and hammering him. You know what? I'm
[1:16:02] Speaker 1: going to play.
[1:16:04] Speaker 3: One more.
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: Roll it.
[1:16:05] Speaker 24: But you stand here and say you're going to be
[1:16:07] Speaker 24: a champion for black Georgians when you elevate to positions
[1:16:12] Speaker 24: of leadership in your political organization, people with ties to
[1:16:15] Speaker 24: the Ku Klux Klan. You want to explain that to
[1:16:18] Speaker 24: folks across Georgia? Did you accidentally put people with Klan
[1:16:22] Speaker 24: ties in your political organization?
[1:16:23] Speaker 7: 30-second rebuttal.
[1:16:25] Speaker 21: What we need to do for the people of the
[1:16:26] Speaker 21: state of Georgia— is make sure that they have money
[1:16:30] Speaker 21: in their pockets, make sure that they have opportunities. You
[1:16:33] Speaker 21: do that by getting interest rates down. You do that
[1:16:35] Speaker 21: by getting this economy back to rolling again. And how
[1:16:39] Speaker 21: do you do that? You do that through lower taxes.
[1:16:42] Speaker 21: You do that through making sure that regulations are off
[1:16:45] Speaker 21: the backs of the American people and American businesses.
[1:16:50] Speaker 1: Can you say you didn't answer the question? Again, it
[1:16:57] Speaker 1: was just, Hammer after hammer after hammer after hammer after hammer.
[1:17:04] Speaker 1: And not only that, he was hammering him because because
[1:17:10] Speaker 1: even when you look at his son, he was like,
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: you got a white supremacist in your house. I'm just
[1:17:15] Speaker 1: going to play one more.
[1:17:17] Speaker 24: Tonight, a united Georgia will hear the trial of Mike Collins.
[1:17:23] Speaker 24: Mike Collins has brought dishonor to our state through his
[1:17:27] Speaker 24: personal bigotry and his widely documented ties to white nationalists.
[1:17:33] Speaker 24: And he's sold out Georgia in his pathetic childlike devotion
[1:17:37] Speaker 24: to Donald Trump. Voting for the tariffs that have sent
[1:17:41] Speaker 24: groceries soaring, voting for the healthcare cuts that have doubled
[1:17:44] Speaker 24: your insurance premiums, and voting for the war that sent
[1:17:48] Speaker 24: diesel to its record high. We'll hear tonight if the
[1:17:51] Speaker 24: congressman can defend those votes. I doubt he'll have the
[1:17:53] Speaker 24: courage to do so. And that's the problem, Mike. It's
[1:17:57] Speaker 24: not just that you've hired half the Third Reich to
[1:17:59] Speaker 24: staff your congressional office and you have promoted neo-Nazi content online.
[1:18:04] Speaker 24: It's that you're robbing your constituents to subsidize your donors.
[1:18:07] Speaker 24: I want to know if you will commit to voting
[1:18:09] Speaker 24: to repeal that data center tax scam that you voted for.
[1:18:12] Speaker 3: Let's hear an answer.
[1:18:13] Speaker 21: Your opponent rarely mentions your name.
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: So it was a lot going back and forth. Now,
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: so on PBS, David Brooks, former The New York Times conservative,
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: also on PBS, David Brooks. he decided to share his
[1:18:29] Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions. And, you know, it really irks my
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: soul when I see– let me just show you what
[1:18:41] Speaker 1: happens with these people who want to sit here and
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: play nice. Listen to David Brooks. John Ossoff.
[1:18:50] Speaker 25: My advice to him is if you start calling your
[1:18:51] Speaker 25: political opponents Nazis, maybe it's time to shut up.
[1:18:54] Speaker 3: That's just not what we do here in this country.
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: Okay, so really? Maybe, David, you're the problem. Maybe you're
[1:19:04] Speaker 1: the problem because it's well-documented that The racist that Mike
[1:19:10] Speaker 1: Collins has on his campaign, his own son. Ossoff was
[1:19:15] Speaker 1: hitting him saying, why can't you control the racism that's
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: coming out of your own house? But no, David, David Brooks. No, no, no.
[1:19:23] Speaker 1: That's not what we do in this country. That is
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: exactly the problem. See, I think the real deal here, see,
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: they really don't want Democrats to be as aggressive as
[1:19:33] Speaker 1: Ossoff was, but they got no problem with Trump says
[1:19:36] Speaker 1: the stuff that he says. Oh, if you, I'm sorry,
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: what did David Brooks say again? Let me just be
[1:19:41] Speaker 1: real clear here. I'm just, listen to this.
[1:19:44] Speaker 25: John Ossoff, my advice to him is if you start
[1:19:46] Speaker 25: calling your political opponents Nazis, maybe it's time to shut up.
[1:19:49] Speaker 2: That's just not what we do here in this country.
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: Really, that's not what we do.
[1:19:54] Speaker 13: Didn't J.D.
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: Vance call Donald Trump Hitler and he's now his vice president?
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: Y'all see where I'm going? These people really get on
[1:20:06] Speaker 1: my damn nerves with this stuff here. Let's go to
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: Brian Shapiro. Brian Shapiro, of course, talk show host. You've
[1:20:12] Speaker 1: seen him. He's been on the show before. Brian, this
[1:20:15] Speaker 1: is really pisses me off because people like David Brooks,
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: what they... He'll call out Ossoff, but not the bigotry
[1:20:25] Speaker 1: and the racism of Mike Collins.
[1:20:28] Speaker 9: Yeah, good to see you, Rowan. Thanks for having me
[1:20:31] Speaker 9: back on. So let's be very clear here. Ossoff's opponent
[1:20:34] Speaker 9: is a Nazi, okay?
[1:20:36] Speaker 3: He is a racist. He is an anti-Semite.
[1:20:39] Speaker 9: And there is nothing wrong in this country, and there
[1:20:42] Speaker 9: shouldn't be anything wrong, for people in this country to call.
[1:20:45] Speaker 3: A spade a spade. They don't want us to call
[1:20:48] Speaker 3: out racism.
[1:20:49] Speaker 9: In fact, many of these people don't even think that
[1:20:51] Speaker 9: systemic racism even exists. When you literally have Klan members
[1:20:55] Speaker 9: that are living in your own home and you can't
[1:20:58] Speaker 9: control the bigotry and the racism in your own home,
[1:21:01] Speaker 9: then how are you going to control it among your constituents?
[1:21:04] Speaker 9: I've been saying since day one, Roland Donosov is a star.
[1:21:07] Speaker 9: He's a star in the Democratic Party. And I believe
[1:21:10] Speaker 9: one day he's going to be president of the United States.
[1:21:12] Speaker 9: He's going to win that race.
[1:21:14] Speaker 3: As you know, there are.
[1:21:15] Speaker 9: Important races all over the country. Some of them are
[1:21:17] Speaker 9: very close. Some of them are very tight. That is
[1:21:19] Speaker 9: not a close one. Ossoff's going to win. Collins is
[1:21:22] Speaker 9: a if he's not a Nazi, then what he is
[1:21:25] Speaker 9: doing is he is protecting Nazis. He's protecting bigotry and racism.
[1:21:29] Speaker 9: The Third Reich, as Ossoff said in his own in
[1:21:31] Speaker 9: his own campaign.
[1:21:32] Speaker 1: Let's remind people last year. Go to my iPad, Henry.
[1:21:36] Speaker 1: Paul and Gracia, a Trump appointee, was busted in these
[1:21:39] Speaker 1: text messages saying the MLK Jr. holiday belongs in hell.
[1:21:43] Speaker 1: And he admitted to a Nazi streak. Trump pulled his nomination,
[1:21:48] Speaker 1: but he still works in the administration. So David Brooks,
[1:21:52] Speaker 1: should we call somebody a Nazi who says they have
[1:21:56] Speaker 1: a Nazi streak?
[1:21:58] Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, this is what they do. And last
[1:22:01] Speaker 9: I checked, if you're talking about Martin Luther King Jr.,
[1:22:04] Speaker 9: it was actually Donald Trump that took the statue of
[1:22:07] Speaker 9: Martin Luther King Jr. out of the Oval Office. These
[1:22:09] Speaker 9: are also the people that MAGA Republicans associate themselves with.
[1:22:14] Speaker 9: It's really sad and it's despicable, but I think it's
[1:22:16] Speaker 9: also extremely important. for people like Ossoff and other Democrats
[1:22:20] Speaker 9: to call these people out for who they are.
[1:22:23] Speaker 3: And you mentioned it yourself. It was J.D.
[1:22:25] Speaker 9: Vance, our vice president, who once called Donald Trump the
[1:22:28] Speaker 9: next American, possibly the next American Hitler. And then we're
[1:22:32] Speaker 9: supposed to forget about that.
[1:22:34] Speaker 2: This is who J.D.
[1:22:34] Speaker 3: Vance is.
[1:22:35] Speaker 9: By the way, I think he was partially right. It
[1:22:37] Speaker 9: wouldn't have been the few times in J.D. Vance's entire
[1:22:39] Speaker 9: career where he was actually probably telling the truth. And,
[1:22:43] Speaker 9: you know, I didn't really agree with that language years ago.
[1:22:46] Speaker 9: I certainly agree with it now. When you talk about
[1:22:49] Speaker 9: the way ICE agents are treating citizens and even non-citizens
[1:22:53] Speaker 9: in this country, when you look at the no regard
[1:22:56] Speaker 9: for rule of law and the way they're treating brown
[1:22:58] Speaker 9: people in this country, it's sick and it's sad. And
[1:23:02] Speaker 9: as I say before and I say again, call a
[1:23:05] Speaker 9: spade a spade. We can start with Donald Trump and
[1:23:08] Speaker 9: we can start with all these other people and all
[1:23:09] Speaker 9: these races throughout the country. OK, Ossoff's a good man.
[1:23:13] Speaker 9: He's a smart man. He wakes up in the morning.
[1:23:15] Speaker 9: He goes to work, doesn't take special interest money from anybody.
[1:23:18] Speaker 9: And then he drives home to his beautiful wife and kids.
[1:23:21] Speaker 9: He has nothing in his resume that is suspicious, nothing
[1:23:25] Speaker 9: in his resume that you would say, hmm, that's strange.
[1:23:28] Speaker 9: He's going to win that race. And the fact that
[1:23:31] Speaker 9: Collins just got roasted up there. and wouldn't address any
[1:23:34] Speaker 9: of the statements or questions. If I'm sitting there at
[1:23:36] Speaker 9: a debate stage and somebody accuses me of being a
[1:23:39] Speaker 9: racist or a Nazi or supporting Nazis, the first thing
[1:23:43] Speaker 9: I would do if it wasn't true, I would answer
[1:23:45] Speaker 9: the question and I would defend myself. Collins wouldn't answer
[1:23:48] Speaker 9: any of his questions because it's indefensible. The proof is
[1:23:52] Speaker 9: in the pudding. And I think Ossoff's going to continue
[1:23:55] Speaker 9: to do a great job.
[1:23:56] Speaker 3: And I'm proud of the way he performed in these
[1:23:58] Speaker 3: two debates this week.
[1:24:00] Speaker 1: So check this out here. Remember Karl Rove. He was
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: highly critical of this racist Beau French who's running for
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: Texas Railroad Commission. He's also the head of the Tarrant
[1:24:09] Speaker 1: County Republican Party. This is what Karl Rove said about
[1:24:12] Speaker 1: his own party.
[1:24:13] Speaker 25: I did not become a Republican. The party of Abraham
[1:24:16] Speaker 25: Lincoln to associate with bigots.
[1:24:18] Speaker 17: The Republican nominee for the Texas Railroad Commissioner has never
[1:24:21] Speaker 17: gotten so much national attention. Posted a photo. of some
[1:24:26] Speaker 17: University of Texas students celebrating a football win that included
[1:24:30] Speaker 17: some of South Asian descent, and he called them the problem.
[1:24:34] Speaker 7: What's happening in and to your party because of bigotry?
[1:24:38] Speaker 25: I mean, that photograph was unbelievably wonderful. Because it's entirely
[1:24:44] Speaker 25: a crowd of burnt orange clad undergraduates at UT going
[1:24:49] Speaker 25: completely insane.
[1:24:51] Speaker 3: Over the victory over Ohio State.
[1:24:53] Speaker 25: Can you imagine the rest of your life as an
[1:24:56] Speaker 25: undergraduate saying, I was there? Well, how the hell did
[1:24:58] Speaker 25: that guy know that those Asian Americans and Hispanics and
[1:25:01] Speaker 25: blacks were foreigners?
[1:25:03] Speaker 3: And what the hell did that matter? If you're not
[1:25:06] Speaker 3: from a.
[1:25:06] Speaker 25: White Christian country, he wants you out of the United
[1:25:09] Speaker 25: States of America.
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: And that is a bigot.
[1:25:11] Speaker 25: And I did not become a Republican. The party of
[1:25:13] Speaker 25: Abraham Lincoln to associate with bigots.
[1:25:23] Speaker 1: Well, it's great, Brian, to have that applause. But when
[1:25:26] Speaker 1: you have a white supremacist in the White House, when
[1:25:29] Speaker 1: you have a man who clearly says that he craps
[1:25:32] Speaker 1: on African nations, he wants white people in this country.
[1:25:35] Speaker 1: He only wants white refugees, Afrikaners from South Africa. You've
[1:25:39] Speaker 1: got white nationalist Stephen Miller, and you've got his nutso
[1:25:42] Speaker 1: wife out there defending him, Katie Miller. So a Karl Rove,
[1:25:46] Speaker 1: you know what? It's a lot more room on the
[1:25:49] Speaker 1: back of that bigot pickup truck than just Beau French.
[1:25:53] Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm glad Karl Rove spoke a little bit of truth,
[1:25:56] Speaker 9: but so what? I mean, look at who the leader
[1:25:58] Speaker 9: of your party is. He'll never out Donald Trump. Donald
[1:26:01] Speaker 9: Trump is the guy who said when it came to
[1:26:03] Speaker 9: his Atlantic City casinos, he didn't want black people to
[1:26:06] Speaker 9: count his money. He wanted Jews to count his money.
[1:26:08] Speaker 9: You know, Donald Trump is the guy who had the
[1:26:10] Speaker 9: thousands of discrimination lawsuits in Manhattan that he had to
[1:26:14] Speaker 9: pay out to all of these people. It was Donald
[1:26:16] Speaker 9: Trump's own father who was arrested at a Klan rally.
[1:26:19] Speaker 3: Fred Trump.
[1:26:20] Speaker 9: But it's funny how they never seem to call out
[1:26:23] Speaker 9: Donald Trump for his racism and bigotry. And when I
[1:26:25] Speaker 9: give example after example of Donald Trump's pure racism, and
[1:26:29] Speaker 9: then we wonder why this country has made up 13
[1:26:32] Speaker 9: percent of African-Americans, yet less than 1 percent of them.
[1:26:36] Speaker 3: Are represented within the Republican Party. That's the reason. That's
[1:26:39] Speaker 3: one of the main reasons why. Right there. There's a lot.
[1:26:42] Speaker 9: Of minorities in this country, rightfully so, that don't want
[1:26:44] Speaker 9: to be Republicans because look at the people that are
[1:26:46] Speaker 9: representing them. You talk about Stephen Miller. All these people
[1:26:51] Speaker 9: do all the Brandon Gill. I call him Brandon the Klansman,
[1:26:55] Speaker 9: because if you look at his timeline on social media,
[1:26:57] Speaker 9: all he.
[1:26:58] Speaker 3: Does is attack brown people.
[1:27:00] Speaker 9: There are plenty of elected officials and Republicans all day long.
[1:27:05] Speaker 9: All they do is attack two groups of people for
[1:27:07] Speaker 9: the most part. Black people, brown people, and transgenders. That's
[1:27:11] Speaker 9: all they do. They don't want to talk about the economy.
[1:27:14] Speaker 9: They don't want to talk about this illegal war in Iran.
[1:27:17] Speaker 9: Did you see the new inflation numbers that came out yesterday?
[1:27:19] Speaker 9: They don't want to talk about any of that stuff.
[1:27:21] Speaker 9: They don't want to talk about this country's going down
[1:27:23] Speaker 9: the toilet under this administration. Donald Trump wants to talk
[1:27:27] Speaker 9: about the reflecting pool. He wants to talk about anything
[1:27:31] Speaker 9: and everything.
[1:27:32] Speaker 3: The ballroom.
[1:27:33] Speaker 9: But he certainly doesn't want to talk about American people.
[1:27:36] Speaker 9: Many of those people are minorities in this country that
[1:27:39] Speaker 9: are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck, while he gives the
[1:27:42] Speaker 9: biggest tax breaks to the top 1%. You know, Roland,
[1:27:45] Speaker 9: of that 1%, how many of those.
[1:27:47] Speaker 3: People are minorities?
[1:27:48] Speaker 9: I read a study that said less than 2% of
[1:27:51] Speaker 9: those people are getting those tax breaks. He's not helping minorities.
[1:27:54] Speaker 9: He's not helping everyday Americans. Again, I'm glad Karl Rove
[1:27:58] Speaker 9: called somebody out, but it means nothing to me, nearly nothing,
[1:28:02] Speaker 9: because he doesn't call out the leader of his own party.
[1:28:05] Speaker 9: These people are nothing but a bunch of cowards who
[1:28:08] Speaker 9: support white supremacists. And people who are clearly, at least
[1:28:13] Speaker 9: in my personal opinion, act like Nazis. And we need
[1:28:17] Speaker 9: to call a spade a spade and call it out.
[1:28:19] Speaker 9: People can try to silence me. They can try to
[1:28:20] Speaker 9: silence you. I'm going to keep calling them out for
[1:28:23] Speaker 9: what they truly are.
[1:28:24] Speaker 1: Well, since you brought that up, Black Minnesota Republican gubernatorial
[1:28:29] Speaker 1: nominee Lisa DeMuth found out the hard way, y'all, what
[1:28:32] Speaker 1: it means to be a Black Republican. White protesters disrupted
[1:28:36] Speaker 1: her speech at the GOP's annual Lincoln-Reagan dinner in Minnesota.
[1:28:40] Speaker 1: while she stood the podium. They stormed into the event. Watch.
[1:28:46] Speaker 3: Lisa!
[1:28:52] Speaker 2: Lisa! Lisa!
[1:28:55] Speaker 5: Lisa!
[1:28:56] Speaker 2: Lisa!
[1:28:58] Speaker 5: I have seen all of these protesters, the best.
[1:29:00] Speaker 1: Thing about our party, is that we are all.
[1:29:19] Speaker 3: USA! USA! USA! USA!
[1:29:43] Speaker 1: DeMuth is the first black woman to serve as Speaker
[1:29:45] Speaker 1: of the Statehouse and the first black person to be
[1:29:48] Speaker 1: a party nominee for Governor of Minnesota. The protesters are
[1:29:52] Speaker 1: part of the Sunrise Movement and Climate Defiance. In a statement,
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: Sunrise Movement spokesman explained why they protested DeMuth, saying the
[1:29:58] Speaker 1: KKK's legacy of racial violence and hierarchy is alive and
[1:30:01] Speaker 1: well within the GOP. We disrupted this fundraiser because we
[1:30:04] Speaker 1: refused to give a moment's peace to the people bankrolling
[1:30:07] Speaker 1: racial violence. And keep in mind, Brian, you've got Republicans
[1:30:10] Speaker 1: in that state who really believe that the cop who
[1:30:12] Speaker 1: murdered George Floyd should be released or pardoned.
[1:30:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, just horrible, despicable people.
[1:30:22] Speaker 9: And I always tell people, if George Floyd was white
[1:30:25] Speaker 9: and Derek Chauvin was black, would.
[1:30:27] Speaker 3: You guys be saying the same thing? I mean, it's insufferable,
[1:30:30] Speaker 3: these people.
[1:30:31] Speaker 9: And I've debated people that know better, people like Michael Knowles.
[1:30:35] Speaker 9: I remember I debated him on Pierce Morgan's show not
[1:30:38] Speaker 9: that long ago, and he was making the case that
[1:30:40] Speaker 9: George Floyd died of a drug overdose. And I said,
[1:30:44] Speaker 9: there were two autopsies. What did those autopsies find? He
[1:30:47] Speaker 9: died of homicide, meaning somebody else was responsible for his death.
[1:30:51] Speaker 9: It's like they just can't separate fact from fiction. And
[1:30:54] Speaker 9: they just it's just like the same people who spread
[1:30:57] Speaker 9: the lies about Puerto Rico, that he was in some
[1:30:58] Speaker 9: sort of mental facility.
[1:31:00] Speaker 2: Right.
[1:31:01] Speaker 9: And then, you know, listen, as you know, and we've
[1:31:04] Speaker 9: talked about this, Roland, on and off the air, you
[1:31:06] Speaker 9: have friends that are that are true black conservatives. No
[1:31:09] Speaker 9: problem with that. I mean I disagree with their political ideology.
[1:31:13] Speaker 9: I don't think the Republican Party and its history are
[1:31:15] Speaker 9: good for minorities, but they have the right to their opinion.
[1:31:18] Speaker 3: That's fine.
[1:31:19] Speaker 9: And then you have people that are just doing it
[1:31:21] Speaker 9: for political convenience, maybe to gain power or to make money.
[1:31:26] Speaker 9: So it's a difficult line to cross, but as far
[1:31:30] Speaker 9: as those protesters– I would tend to agree with them.
[1:31:34] Speaker 9: I think when you look at the Republican Party and
[1:31:36] Speaker 9: where it's at today, the Gropers and the.
[1:31:38] Speaker 3: neo-Nazis, they're not Democrats. They're not lefties.
[1:31:41] Speaker 9: I don't want to hear, well, the Democrats started the KKK.
[1:31:44] Speaker 9: I care about what's happening in this country right now.
[1:31:47] Speaker 9: And I can tell you right now, and I say
[1:31:49] Speaker 9: this all the time, It's not that every person who
[1:31:52] Speaker 9: voted for Donald Trump is a racist.
[1:31:54] Speaker 3: I don't believe that. I have friends who voted for
[1:31:56] Speaker 3: Donald Trump. But I do believe every racist voted for
[1:32:00] Speaker 3: Donald Trump. There's a difference there. And I stand by that.
[1:32:03] Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let me go to Greg. Greg, I'm going to
[1:32:04] Speaker 1: start with you. And the thing that jumps out at me, Greg,
[1:32:08] Speaker 1: when we were having these conversations here, and this is
[1:32:10] Speaker 1: why I don't have any respect for the black Republicans
[1:32:13] Speaker 1: who are in Congress. And I'm talking about Congressman John
[1:32:17] Speaker 1: James Jackson. who is running for governor of Michigan. I
[1:32:21] Speaker 1: found out a year ago he's an alpha. He embarrasses
[1:32:24] Speaker 1: Alpha Phi Alpha. Because when you look at the racial
[1:32:26] Speaker 1: bigotry from this administration, he says nothing. Congressman Byron Donalds,
[1:32:32] Speaker 1: running for governor of Florida, silent. Senator Tim Scott, silent.
[1:32:37] Speaker 1: That minstrel dance show leader, Wesley Hunt, congressman from Texas, silent.
[1:32:42] Speaker 1: Congressman Burgess Owens of Utah, silent. My whole deal is...
[1:32:47] Speaker 1: It's an easy one to call the party out when
[1:32:50] Speaker 1: you have the bigotry. But those five have been silent
[1:32:55] Speaker 1: about Beau French, silent about so much bigotry in their
[1:33:01] Speaker 1: own party. And what they don't understand is they would
[1:33:03] Speaker 1: actually gain more credibility with black people if they actually
[1:33:06] Speaker 1: say something about it. Instead, they excuse it.
[1:33:11] Speaker 2: And that's right, bro.
[1:33:12] Speaker 13: Well, we know that through their actions, not through their words,
[1:33:15] Speaker 13: but through their actions, that they're not seeking to gain support.
[1:33:20] Speaker 13: from black people. They're seeking access to power. They want
[1:33:23] Speaker 13: to be close to their lords and masters. As our friend,
[1:33:27] Speaker 13: Lord Victoria Burke, called Donald years ago, he's a consensual manservant.
[1:33:33] Speaker 13: They think that if they can curry favor with these
[1:33:35] Speaker 13: white men and with the money men behind them, that
[1:33:39] Speaker 13: they will live better lives.
[1:33:41] Speaker 2: It's probably better they don't speak. Because there's nothing they
[1:33:45] Speaker 2: can say.
[1:33:46] Speaker 13: Their actions have proven that their number one objective, their
[1:33:49] Speaker 13: number one goal is to enhance their individual lives at
[1:33:55] Speaker 13: whatever cost. They don't really have moral convictions. That having
[1:33:58] Speaker 13: been said, and I agree with you, Brian, this. This
[1:34:00] Speaker 13: primal call, the people like Mike Collins, he's saying that
[1:34:03] Speaker 13: he's going to change the subject in that debate because
[1:34:06] Speaker 13: his appeal isn't to logic. It isn't to facts. And
[1:34:08] Speaker 13: in this respect, Bozo Trump is actually an avatar. He's
[1:34:13] Speaker 13: very accurate. The truth doesn't matter. Kellyanne Conway tried to
[1:34:17] Speaker 13: tell us that in the first Trump administration. And we
[1:34:19] Speaker 13: kind of said, OK, we're still arguing with facts with
[1:34:22] Speaker 13: people who are arguing white supremacy. So they have struck
[1:34:25] Speaker 13: upon their final argument. death rattle strategy, which is it
[1:34:30] Speaker 13: doesn't matter what you say. I'm simply going to appeal
[1:34:34] Speaker 13: to white nationalism. And in moments when I don't have
[1:34:37] Speaker 13: anything else to say, I'll just stand silent because who
[1:34:40] Speaker 13: I am projects.
[1:34:41] Speaker 2: Finally, to David Brooks. David Brooks has been a white
[1:34:43] Speaker 2: nationalist for a long time.
[1:34:45] Speaker 13: When Conor Kaepernick kneeled, Brooks wrote that you shouldn't be kneeling,
[1:34:49] Speaker 13: you should be pushing unity and patriotism. He called America
[1:34:56] Speaker 13: a nation of mutts. He says it's going to become
[1:34:58] Speaker 13: a nation of mutts, talking about the racial commingling in
[1:35:00] Speaker 13: this country. And he tries to say he's been driven
[1:35:04] Speaker 13: by bloodless data and this kind of thing. But for
[1:35:06] Speaker 13: him to say that about John Ossoff, John Ossoff, who
[1:35:09] Speaker 13: was a Jew, whose father was a Jew who embraced
[1:35:12] Speaker 13: Judaism at his bar mitzvah to say that he shouldn't
[1:35:16] Speaker 13: call somebody a Nazi when David Brooks himself was raised
[1:35:19] Speaker 13: by Jews and then said, well, I'm all for the
[1:35:22] Speaker 13: whole ball of wax. I'm from Judaism and Christianity. Here's news, Mr. Brooks,
[1:35:26] Speaker 13: that makes you a Christian. Or maybe it just makes
[1:35:29] Speaker 13: you another crass opportunist who will paper over issues of
[1:35:32] Speaker 13: race in the service of continuing to be invited to
[1:35:35] Speaker 13: the Washington dinner parties. So whether it be Wesley Hunt
[1:35:38] Speaker 13: or David Brooks, when you get a little sniff of
[1:35:40] Speaker 13: power and they take you in the room and pet
[1:35:42] Speaker 13: you on the head and say, you can stay if
[1:35:44] Speaker 13: you will simply toe the line, whether it be David
[1:35:47] Speaker 13: Brooks or Wesley Hunt or any of these guys, John
[1:35:49] Speaker 13: James or Scott Turner, they will do whatever is necessary
[1:35:52] Speaker 13: not to get put out of that room.
[1:35:54] Speaker 1: Yolanda.
[1:35:57] Speaker 2: So here's what I say, Rowan.
[1:36:00] Speaker 12: I'm not even convinced that the black Republicans in Congress
[1:36:07] Speaker 12: appreciate that they are the N-word in the Republican Party.
[1:36:14] Speaker 12: they are absolutely convinced and they want to be the
[1:36:19] Speaker 12: only black people in the room. So they're not there
[1:36:22] Speaker 12: to fight for black people, which is our problem that
[1:36:25] Speaker 12: we even think they care about black people.
[1:36:28] Speaker 2: They just want to be in the room with power.
[1:36:32] Speaker 12: They want to be the special Negro Because I just
[1:36:35] Speaker 12: don't think they're aware that they're treated like the dogs
[1:36:40] Speaker 12: within their own party. So this is a situation where
[1:36:43] Speaker 12: they don't want to be Democrats, right? Because there's a
[1:36:46] Speaker 12: long line you've got to work your way up to
[1:36:49] Speaker 12: be in a position to get elected to these positions
[1:36:52] Speaker 12: and the Republicans are looking for black people, black faces,
[1:36:55] Speaker 12: they don't care where they come from, just to jump
[1:36:57] Speaker 12: to the front of the line.
[1:36:59] Speaker 2: So you're always gonna have those black people that are
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: like Steven from Django Unchained and that's who they are.
[1:37:06] Speaker 12: So again, I don't know why we expect for them
[1:37:09] Speaker 12: to fight for black people and bring up black issues
[1:37:11] Speaker 12: because they have been so far removed from being where,
[1:37:16] Speaker 12: if they grew up poor, They've been so far removed
[1:37:19] Speaker 12: from being in the hood. They want to forget about it.
[1:37:22] Speaker 12: They want to disassociate from it. And I think that
[1:37:25] Speaker 12: they think that that's the way that Republicans are going
[1:37:27] Speaker 12: to embrace them and they're going to keep the little
[1:37:29] Speaker 12: power that they have. So they don't want us cutting
[1:37:33] Speaker 12: up big pieces of the pie to the extent we
[1:37:35] Speaker 12: were even in a position to do so. They want
[1:37:38] Speaker 12: for there to be crumbs. They want to be special
[1:37:41] Speaker 12: and they want to get the crumbs and that's enough
[1:37:43] Speaker 12: for them. So I think that we need to stop
[1:37:45] Speaker 12: expecting them fight for us.
[1:37:48] Speaker 4: Oh, no, no, no.
[1:37:49] Speaker 1: I have zero expectation they're going to fight for us.
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: I'm just calling out what they do. I have no expectation.
[1:37:56] Speaker 1: I mean, they do not care. Remember when Trump forgot
[1:38:01] Speaker 1: whatever racist comment, I mean, and then he called Tim Scott.
[1:38:05] Speaker 1: And the only reason, and Tim Scott literally, based upon
[1:38:11] Speaker 1: black Republicans who I've talked to, Tim Scott made it clear, Trump,
[1:38:15] Speaker 1: you don't do this. I'm going to come out and
[1:38:18] Speaker 1: blast you. Then Trump.
[1:38:20] Speaker 1: I forgot what it was. And Trump apologized. And then
[1:38:24] Speaker 1: when Tim Scott made a comment, Trump still tried to
[1:38:27] Speaker 1: pull it back. I mean, and that's the whole deal.
[1:38:29] Speaker 3: But.
[1:38:29] Speaker 1: but I don't it bothers me, Michael, when they try
[1:38:32] Speaker 1: to raise the name of Ed Brooke. And I'm like,
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: none of all five, all of them together don't even
[1:38:40] Speaker 1: have the black courage that Ed Brooke had in the
[1:38:44] Speaker 1: tip of his fingernail.
[1:38:48] Speaker 23: Agreed.
[1:38:48] Speaker 11: I mean, Senator Brooke was he was different, but and
[1:38:52] Speaker 11: he was the role model at the time. But then
[1:38:55] Speaker 11: for black Republicans, the role model changed to a particular.
[1:38:59] Speaker 1: And I talk, I say, I don't tell Michael about that. Uh, damn, uh, uh,
[1:39:09] Speaker 1: that damn cricket wifi he got. Uh, I'm going to
[1:39:13] Speaker 1: go back, but get that when he's back. I'm going
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: to put Brian in here. I mean, Brian, the thing here,
[1:39:19] Speaker 1: Senator Edward Brooke, black Republican from Massachusetts, first black United
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: States Senator since reconstruction. He challenged his own party. These
[1:39:27] Speaker 1: folk won't do anything. And, and, and, and, and what
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: amazes me is when you look at these people and Republicans,
[1:39:35] Speaker 1: they're the ones who defend Confederate statutes. Pete Hegseth is
[1:39:39] Speaker 1: wiping out black and women leaders in the military. You know,
[1:39:45] Speaker 1: the constant tax on DEI. And not only that, Trump
[1:39:48] Speaker 1: constantly standing up, and I don't give a damn if
[1:39:51] Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather, who has tax troubles, And it's probably trying
[1:39:54] Speaker 1: to get apart and it's standing next to you. When
[1:39:56] Speaker 1: Trump is insinuating that Obama wasn't even Obama wasn't even
[1:40:00] Speaker 1: smart enough to get into college. It is always an attack.
[1:40:03] Speaker 1: You know, Jasmine Crockett, low IQ, Ayanna Pressley, low IQ.
[1:40:07] Speaker 1: He attacks black female reporters. I mean, they are constantly
[1:40:11] Speaker 1: attacking black people. And what is offensive, these black Republicans,
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: they say nothing.
[1:40:18] Speaker 9: And what is Donald Trump doing to try to get
[1:40:20] Speaker 9: the black vote with the midterms right around the corner?
[1:40:23] Speaker 3: You just mentioned one of those names.
[1:40:24] Speaker 9: Last week, Donald Trump was parading around Mike Tyson, who
[1:40:27] Speaker 9: is a convicted rapist.
[1:40:29] Speaker 3: Say what you want.
[1:40:30] Speaker 9: About Mike Tyson as a boxer. He's a convicted rapist.
[1:40:33] Speaker 9: Floyd Mayweather, let's be honest, the guy can't even read.
[1:40:35] Speaker 9: He can't even read a teleprompter. You know, you're showing
[1:40:38] Speaker 9: Mike Tyson out there. This is who Donald Trump is
[1:40:40] Speaker 9: parading around with.
[1:40:41] Speaker 3: I'm just going to say it.
[1:40:42] Speaker 9: Rapists hang out with rapists, OK? Floyd Mayweather went to
[1:40:46] Speaker 9: jail for abusing the mother of his child. He spent
[1:40:51] Speaker 9: time in prison. The man can barely read. So that's
[1:40:54] Speaker 9: why he wasn't reading a teleprompter. And these are the
[1:40:58] Speaker 9: people that Donald Trump is parading out there to try.
[1:41:01] Speaker 3: To get the black vote. What an embarrassment.
[1:41:03] Speaker 9: No, because most of the very intelligent people and people
[1:41:08] Speaker 9: that have never abused women or raped women that happen
[1:41:10] Speaker 9: to be black, Don't vote or support Donald Trump.
[1:41:15] Speaker 3: So I'm sorry, Donnie. I don't think that Mike Tyson and.
[1:41:19] Speaker 9: Floyd Mayweather are going to get all these black people
[1:41:21] Speaker 9: all over the country to say, wow, I better vote
[1:41:25] Speaker 9: Republican when the midterms are right around the corner. It's
[1:41:28] Speaker 9: not going to work. They're desperate right now. Yesterday was
[1:41:31] Speaker 9: an embarrassment with Floyd Mayweather. As you mentioned, he's got
[1:41:34] Speaker 9: tax troubles. Maybe he's trying to get a pardon from
[1:41:36] Speaker 9: Donald Trump.
[1:41:37] Speaker 3: Who knows? But what a complete frickin' embarrassment. What a
[1:41:40] Speaker 3: embarrassment that these two men would stand up there and
[1:41:43] Speaker 3: grift and stand next to Donald Trump. They have to know.
[1:41:46] Speaker 9: They have to know how bad Donald Trump and these
[1:41:49] Speaker 9: policies are for people who look like them.
[1:41:51] Speaker 3: But you know what? Mike Tyson's rich. He's got a
[1:41:53] Speaker 3: lot of money. Floyd Mayweather's rich. He's got a lot
[1:41:55] Speaker 3: of money.
[1:41:56] Speaker 9: Donald Trump is good for them. The biggest tax breaks
[1:41:59] Speaker 9: for the richest people in this country. But these people
[1:42:01] Speaker 9: don't understand is that they're not good for the average
[1:42:04] Speaker 9: American person.
[1:42:05] Speaker 1: No, indeed, indeed. Brown Shapiro, we appreciate it, man. Thanks
[1:42:07] Speaker 1: a lot.
[1:42:09] Speaker 3: Thanks, Roland. Appreciate it. Good to see you.
[1:42:11] Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Going to a break. We come back.
[1:42:13] Speaker 1: Brian Flores, defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings. He is
[1:42:16] Speaker 1: pushing forward his lawsuit against the NFL. This brother's not
[1:42:20] Speaker 1: backing down, and we are going to get a doozy
[1:42:26] Speaker 1: of info when this thing keeps moving forward. You're watching
[1:42:31] Speaker 1: Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.
[1:42:36] Speaker 15: I'm Chris Jones, and I'm running against the most powerful
[1:42:39] Speaker 15: banker in Congress. Day one, I'll get busy disappointing some
[1:42:44] Speaker 15: of the most dangerous billionaires in America. I'll vote to
[1:42:48] Speaker 15: repeal Trump's tariffs and cut costs on goods and groceries.
[1:42:52] Speaker 15: End the war and bring down gas and diesel prices.
[1:42:55] Speaker 15: And I'll bring back the health care coverage that French
[1:42:58] Speaker 15: Hill killed. Because you shouldn't have to own the bank
[1:43:01] Speaker 15: to live in Arkansas.
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: I'm Chris Jones, and I approve this message.
[1:43:05] Speaker 14: I was already a lawyer when my brother was murdered.
[1:43:09] Speaker 14: His killer was never brought to trial. That loss didn't
[1:43:13] Speaker 14: put me on this path, but it has shaped how
[1:43:16] Speaker 14: I walk it. As a justice, I hold criminals accountable,
[1:43:21] Speaker 14: keep communities safe, and ensure every victim gets their day
[1:43:25] Speaker 14: in court. I'm Anita Earls. As a justice, I won't
[1:43:30] Speaker 14: stop working until the law works for everyone.
[1:43:35] Speaker 20: You shouldn't have to wonder whose side your senator is on.
[1:43:38] Speaker 20: So let me make this clear. If it's Florida's homeowners
[1:43:41] Speaker 20: against insurance companies, I'm with the homeowners. If it's patients
[1:43:45] Speaker 20: against price gouging drug companies, I'm with the patients. If
[1:43:49] Speaker 20: it's families against corporate entities buying up our neighborhoods and
[1:43:52] Speaker 20: driving up the rent, I'm with the families every single time.
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[1:43:58] Speaker 20: I approve this message because Florida, I can promise you
[1:44:01] Speaker 20: that I'll never make you guess whose side I'm on.
[1:44:03] Speaker 5: 92.
[1:44:04] Speaker 16: That's how many polling places Tarrant County just cut before
[1:44:08] Speaker 16: this election. Nobody works that hard to silence you unless
[1:44:10] Speaker 16: your voice is a threat. Rent keeps climbing. Care keeps
[1:44:14] Speaker 16: slipping out of reach. None of that is an accident.
[1:44:16] Speaker 16: In Harris County, Dr. Letitia Plummer. She spent her career
[1:44:20] Speaker 16: caring for patients. She knows health care is a right,
[1:44:22] Speaker 16: not a reward. In Fort Bend, Dexter McCoy. He raised
[1:44:27] Speaker 16: wages for county workers and won paid parental leave. In Tarrant,
[1:44:30] Speaker 16: Elisa Simmons. When people kept dying in the county jail,
[1:44:34] Speaker 16: she demanded answers and a federal investigation.
[1:44:36] Speaker 5: She never looked away.
[1:44:38] Speaker 1: Three leaders.
[1:44:39] Speaker 5: One fight.
[1:44:40] Speaker 16: Justice that treats us like human beings. Paychecks that cover
[1:44:43] Speaker 16: the rent. Healthcare that doesn't depend on your zip code.
[1:44:46] Speaker 16: This is the Texas we're building, with Black and Latino
[1:44:49] Speaker 16: communities leading the way. Texas Organizing Project PAC proudly endorses Dr.
[1:44:53] Speaker 16: Letitia Plummer, Dexter McCoy, and Elisa Simmons.
[1:44:57] Speaker 2: Three judges.
[1:44:58] Speaker 3: One fight.
[1:44:59] Speaker 2: Our counties are called.
[1:45:04] Speaker 8: Hey, it's Basketball Hall of Famer Nancy Lieberman and the
[1:45:07] Speaker 8: Hall of Famer.
[1:45:08] Speaker 11: Richard Dant, MVP, and you do.
[1:45:11] Speaker 5: Have a vote.
[1:45:11] Speaker 2: You have a vote.
[1:45:12] Speaker 13: Use it.
[1:45:13] Speaker 3: Please.
[1:45:13] Speaker 1: All right, folks, y'all see this portrait that's over my
[1:45:22] Speaker 1: right shoulder. I got this when I was in Sacramento
[1:45:24] Speaker 1: and Colin Kaepernick is in that particular portrait. See it
[1:45:29] Speaker 1: right there. Remember, he sued the NFL. Then he settled
[1:45:31] Speaker 1: for $ 8 million. Well, we don't know what he settled for.
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: The number has been thrown around since $ 8 million. And
[1:45:36] Speaker 1: a lot of people really wanted Colin Kaepernick to keep
[1:45:39] Speaker 1: going with this lawsuit to expose the NFL. Well, you
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: know who's doing that? Brian Flores. Remember, he was the
[1:45:45] Speaker 1: head coach for the Miami Dolphins. He got fired. Then
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: he was being interviewed by a number of other teams,
[1:45:50] Speaker 1: Houston Texans and others. And he basically said, you know what?
[1:45:54] Speaker 1: These interviews with these black coaches are absolute sham. It
[1:45:58] Speaker 1: exposes their racism. He later got hired as an assistant
[1:46:03] Speaker 1: coach with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Then he became defensive coordinator
[1:46:05] Speaker 1: for the Miami Vikings, and he's had one of the
[1:46:07] Speaker 1: top defenses for the last several years. Well, check this out, y'all.
[1:46:11] Speaker 1: On Tuesday, a court unsealed a memo from the recruiting
[1:46:15] Speaker 1: firm Corn Fairy about Brian Flores. They were hired by
[1:46:19] Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders. The document backs up Flores' racial
[1:46:24] Speaker 1: discrimination claims, against the NFL during their head coaching hiring searches.
[1:46:28] Speaker 1: The memo outlines Flores' strengths and weaknesses as a potential
[1:46:32] Speaker 1: head coaching candidate for the Raiders. When speaking of Flores' strengths,
[1:46:36] Speaker 1: the memo says Flores is, quote, polished and a good presenter,
[1:46:41] Speaker 1: despite growing up in Brownsville, Brooklyn, same as Mike Tyson.
[1:46:48] Speaker 1: He was able to build a strong friendship with a
[1:46:51] Speaker 1: billionaire son, which gave him opportunities to socialize and learn
[1:46:56] Speaker 1: how to build relationships with white collar and upper class individuals.
[1:47:07] Speaker 1: So they basically saying Brian Flores was essentially taught to
[1:47:15] Speaker 1: be cultured by the son of a white man. This
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: is what they said about his weaknesses. Quote, he can
[1:47:23] Speaker 1: fool you with his polish upwards, has little people skills,
[1:47:29] Speaker 1: lacks self-awareness and can sometimes exhibit erratic behavior. Flores, along
[1:47:35] Speaker 1: with other black coaches, filed a lawsuit in 2022 against
[1:47:38] Speaker 1: the NFL and six other teams shortly after. Dolphins. First
[1:47:44] Speaker 1: of all, again, y'all, here's the deal. You talk to
[1:47:47] Speaker 1: any of these brothers, they'll tell you about these sham interviews, Jolanda.
[1:47:51] Speaker 1: They'll tell you how they're a joke. But here's what
[1:47:55] Speaker 1: I love about this here. The NFL is in a quandary.
[1:48:01] Speaker 1: Brian Flores literally is working in the NFL for the
[1:48:05] Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. He's a defensive coordinator and he's damn good.
[1:48:10] Speaker 1: His defenses have been smoking hot. So it's a little
[1:48:13] Speaker 1: hard to say fire him because he's at the top
[1:48:18] Speaker 1: of the heap. But what I love about this here
[1:48:21] Speaker 1: is he's not settling. He wants this to go to trial.
[1:48:27] Speaker 1: If Brian Flores wanted to settle... He could have settled
[1:48:31] Speaker 1: for a lot of money. And I guarantee you the
[1:48:34] Speaker 1: NFL is throwing a lot of money at Brian Flores
[1:48:38] Speaker 1: to get this thing to go away. He wants the
[1:48:43] Speaker 1: discovery all to be released, Yolanda.
[1:48:47] Speaker 12: And so would I, because here's the thing I will
[1:48:50] Speaker 12: tell you as a lawyer, they can't get him on
[1:48:53] Speaker 12: objective stuff because he knows what he's doing in football.
[1:48:57] Speaker 12: So they go get this search firm that clearly is
[1:49:01] Speaker 12: white-centered to use subjective.
[1:49:04] Speaker 2: Things like, basically, from the hood, he ain't supposed to
[1:49:08] Speaker 2: be there.
[1:49:09] Speaker 12: But one of those, and I hate watching those movies, Roland,
[1:49:13] Speaker 12: where some white person saves some poor black person.
[1:49:17] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, the whole white savior complex, yep.
[1:49:21] Speaker 2: I hate those.
[1:49:22] Speaker 12: But basically, that's what this white search firm is.
[1:49:27] Speaker 2: Knocked him on.
[1:49:29] Speaker 5: Right.
[1:49:30] Speaker 12: And that because he's so polished from the white people
[1:49:33] Speaker 12: that taught him because, oh, my God, this is white
[1:49:35] Speaker 12: man's burden and black folks need us in order to
[1:49:38] Speaker 12: be successful.
[1:49:39] Speaker 2: He can fool you. So even if you like him.
[1:49:43] Speaker 2: and he's polished and he seems like the right fit.
[1:49:46] Speaker 12: He's really not because he's dishonest, which is the same
[1:49:49] Speaker 12: tropes that they always use for us. And I am
[1:49:52] Speaker 12: so thankful that Flores is not getting bought and sold,
[1:49:57] Speaker 12: that he wants for people to see Because just like
[1:50:01] Speaker 12: when we were talking about the Republicans deflecting about stuff
[1:50:05] Speaker 12: that's not to the merits of the question or the issues,
[1:50:08] Speaker 12: it's the same thing they do in corporate America, which
[1:50:11] Speaker 12: speaks to you, Roland, talking about how there's an attack
[1:50:15] Speaker 12: on black America by Trump and everybody who thinks like him.
[1:50:20] Speaker 12: So even in sports, they're trying to take away or
[1:50:25] Speaker 12: they are taking away.
[1:50:26] Speaker 2: They're not trying.
[1:50:27] Speaker 12: They're succeeding. The objectivity so that they can deflect and
[1:50:32] Speaker 12: use their talking points. And I think that all they
[1:50:34] Speaker 12: need on that jury is one black person who has
[1:50:39] Speaker 12: a traditional black experience.
[1:50:40] Speaker 2: I don't mean like black.
[1:50:41] Speaker 12: Republicans, because black Republicans will sign off on that bullshit.
[1:50:46] Speaker 12: But all they need is one black person on the
[1:50:48] Speaker 12: jury and they're going to have some problems.
[1:50:50] Speaker 1: So this is the memo. This is here, Greg. Outstanding
[1:50:56] Speaker 1: defensive coach. Smart and demonstrates an ability to adapt to
[1:51:00] Speaker 1: different modern offensives and game plan against protection schemes in
[1:51:05] Speaker 1: the league's top quarterbacks. Mixes up schemes with different, sometimes
[1:51:09] Speaker 1: unorthodox situational coverages. Hard for offenses to game play it
[1:51:13] Speaker 1: against and for QBs to read. Disguises his schemes to
[1:51:17] Speaker 1: confuse offensive blocking patterns to hide the main point of
[1:51:21] Speaker 1: defensive attack. Very commonly blitzes. Defensive backs love playing for him.
[1:51:27] Speaker 1: Aggressive with strong, timing-intensive blitzes that have rattled top offenses.
[1:51:32] Speaker 1: When teams adjust, Bryant seems to always have another alteration
[1:51:36] Speaker 1: to go to. Chip on his shoulder, relentlessness and desire
[1:51:40] Speaker 1: to prove himself. But outside of football, he can be
[1:51:43] Speaker 1: a good person for players to talk to. Polished and
[1:51:47] Speaker 1: a good presenter, despite growing up in Brownsville, Brooklyn. I
[1:51:52] Speaker 1: guess no black people growing up in Brownsville, Brooklyn, know
[1:51:55] Speaker 1: how to talk. He was able to build a strong fringe,
[1:51:58] Speaker 1: as we read before. He was able to build a
[1:52:00] Speaker 1: strong friendship with a billionaire son, which gave him opportunity
[1:52:04] Speaker 1: to socialize and learn how to build relationships with white
[1:52:07] Speaker 1: collar and upper class individuals. Basically, they're meaning white people. Um,
[1:52:12] Speaker 1: top NFL quarterbacks with strong offensive lines can expose. This
[1:52:16] Speaker 1: is what they call weaknesses. Top NFL quarterbacks with strong
[1:52:20] Speaker 1: offensive lines can expose the aggressiveness of his defense. If
[1:52:23] Speaker 1: the blitz falls apart, his own defenses are not as effective.
[1:52:27] Speaker 1: Limited offensive philosophy and does not get ahead of the game.
[1:52:30] Speaker 1: As head coach, he clashed with the GM and his coordinators.
[1:52:33] Speaker 1: He can fool you with his polish upwards, has little
[1:52:36] Speaker 1: people skills, lacks self-awareness, and can sometimes exhibit erratic behavior.
[1:52:41] Speaker 1: Tua's statements have opened the narrative that Bryan was, quote,
[1:52:45] Speaker 1: pessimistic and adversarial, and his style, quote, shattered his confidence.
[1:52:49] Speaker 1: Wants to be a CEO-type head coach, but micromanages in
[1:52:53] Speaker 1: a negative manner. Makes knee-jerk reactionary decisions based on the
[1:52:57] Speaker 1: last play. Chip on his shoulder can be a dictator
[1:53:00] Speaker 1: with players, coaches, and can even be difficult with ownership.
[1:53:05] Speaker 1: His personality is unpredictable. Not sure who is going to
[1:53:08] Speaker 1: show up. Failed in how he hires coordinators and staff
[1:53:12] Speaker 1: because he doesn't give second chances or see efforts to improve.
[1:53:16] Speaker 1: needs someone strong at the top to rein in some
[1:53:19] Speaker 1: of his worst behavior. He once threatened violence to his
[1:53:22] Speaker 1: GM and made irrational demands during an ownership meeting. One
[1:53:26] Speaker 1: longtime senior team executive said, he may have changed since,
[1:53:30] Speaker 1: but he was the worst hiring decision we've ever made.
[1:53:33] Speaker 1: Another president of a club refused to talk about him.
[1:53:37] Speaker 1: Ongoing litigation may be a distraction. Now here's why I
[1:53:40] Speaker 1: find that to be all interesting, Greg. Let's be real clear.
[1:53:44] Speaker 1: Brian Flores said, came out of the Bill Belichick system, Greg.
[1:53:48] Speaker 1: That's who Bill Belichick is. If you actually look at
[1:53:52] Speaker 1: all the people who follow Bill Belichick, they're all the same.
[1:53:57] Speaker 1: And so here's the reality. And anybody who's actually been
[1:54:02] Speaker 1: a boss before, you understand it. You know what? When
[1:54:06] Speaker 1: you first become a boss, you may fail because you
[1:54:10] Speaker 1: have a certain way of conducting yourself. You learn from that.
[1:54:14] Speaker 1: Their whole deal is we ain't giving you a second chance.
[1:54:18] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Who was the guy who was coaching in Cleveland,
[1:54:24] Speaker 1: the head coach who got fired? Oh, I'm sorry. He
[1:54:27] Speaker 1: isn't he now the head coach in Atlanta? We can
[1:54:32] Speaker 1: go down the line of numerous coaches, white coaches who
[1:54:37] Speaker 1: have been rehired at other places. Probably reads the same.
[1:54:42] Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is the NFL is absolutely
[1:54:46] Speaker 1: racist when it comes to hiring head coaches. And we
[1:54:49] Speaker 1: know this. And I hope, Greg, I hope it goes
[1:54:55] Speaker 1: to the jury. I want Brian Flores to say, I
[1:54:59] Speaker 1: hope Brian Flores exposes the entire racist NFL system so
[1:55:06] Speaker 1: people know exactly who these folks are.
[1:55:12] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:55:13] Speaker 2: I hope so, too.
[1:55:13] Speaker 13: Unfortunately, in the law, he takes this to trial. He
[1:55:19] Speaker 13: gets his discovery. He deposes all these folks. And at
[1:55:24] Speaker 13: the end of the day, they may say, well, it
[1:55:27] Speaker 13: was personal animus. wasn't racial animus. It was aimed at you.
[1:55:31] Speaker 13: There's no pattern here. And even if you have the
[1:55:33] Speaker 13: cumulative weight of evidence, you know, this is the problem.
[1:55:37] Speaker 13: They talk about McDonnell Douglas standards and Washington v. Davis
[1:55:42] Speaker 13: and disparate impact. They can say, look at all these
[1:55:45] Speaker 13: black coaches who have not been hired. And then the
[1:55:51] Speaker 13: judge may say, oh, the jury, well, jury wouldn't say this.
[1:55:53] Speaker 13: On appeal, the court may say, yes, Yes, that is
[1:55:56] Speaker 13: a pattern.
[1:55:56] Speaker 2: And yes, this is disturbing.
[1:55:58] Speaker 13: But in your specific case, we think it was because
[1:56:01] Speaker 13: they looked at this report and they said, well, you know,
[1:56:04] Speaker 13: we don't like your attitude.
[1:56:06] Speaker 2: We don't like your temperament. And we think that that's
[1:56:08] Speaker 2: a matter of you as an individual. But we'll see.
[1:56:10] Speaker 13: But as you say, the real battle will be whether
[1:56:14] Speaker 13: he was to win or to lose. The real battle
[1:56:15] Speaker 13: would be to expose this. But then the question then
[1:56:18] Speaker 13: falls squarely on us, doesn't it? The question falls on
[1:56:21] Speaker 13: us to say, when are we going to turn this off?
[1:56:24] Speaker 13: You know, I went to Tennessee State. I'm very proud
[1:56:26] Speaker 13: of that. For years, the great Joe Gillum, who was
[1:56:29] Speaker 13: the offensive coordinator under Big John Merritt and then became
[1:56:32] Speaker 13: the head coach. For years, Don Shula. For years, from
[1:56:36] Speaker 13: the Miami Dolphins. For years, the coach of the Pittsburgh
[1:56:38] Speaker 13: Steelers and the Dallas Cowboys. They would call him or
[1:56:41] Speaker 13: even come in the summertime to watch the practices. And
[1:56:43] Speaker 13: this happened with Eddie Robinson and Grambling.
[1:56:46] Speaker 2: And others.
[1:56:47] Speaker 13: They would come and pick their brains for offensive schemes
[1:56:50] Speaker 13: and things like that. But they never hired them on
[1:56:52] Speaker 13: pro staffs. Now, when you look at the National Football League,
[1:56:56] Speaker 13: it's the reason why I also went to Ohio State.
[1:56:59] Speaker 2: I got two degrees from Ohio State and one from Temple.
[1:57:01] Speaker 13: I would sometimes watch Temple basketball games because the great
[1:57:05] Speaker 13: John Chaney, the coach at Temple, brother who came out
[1:57:08] Speaker 13: of Chaney University before that, Rasheed Wallace's school, Simon Gratz
[1:57:15] Speaker 13: there in North Philly. He required his players come to
[1:57:18] Speaker 13: class and he would come check on the players. So
[1:57:20] Speaker 13: I would come and watch him. But I did not
[1:57:22] Speaker 13: go to one athletic event at the Ohio State University.
[1:57:25] Speaker 13: It's a historically plantation college and university. For those of
[1:57:28] Speaker 13: you who got children and you scream yourself hoarse on
[1:57:31] Speaker 13: Friday nights for Pop Warner football or wherever you're going,
[1:57:34] Speaker 13: instead of screaming yourself hoarse at science fairs and spelling bees,
[1:57:38] Speaker 13: I'm talking to you, American Negroes. Slavery is over. Why
[1:57:41] Speaker 13: do you still love and worship your master? Please understand
[1:57:44] Speaker 13: that these people are never going to love you and
[1:57:46] Speaker 13: they're never going.
[1:57:47] Speaker 2: To respect you.
[1:57:47] Speaker 13: I will be damned if I watch a second of
[1:57:50] Speaker 13: historically plantation colleges and universities, Ohio State, Auburn, any of them,
[1:57:56] Speaker 13: you name them, Alabama. And when it comes to the
[1:57:58] Speaker 13: National Football League, the only reason I know about any
[1:58:00] Speaker 13: of this is because I read. I will not watch
[1:58:03] Speaker 13: one second of one minute of one hour of anything
[1:58:05] Speaker 13: in the National Football League. They've shown you what they are.
[1:58:09] Speaker 13: Football is a natural. in this country for white supremacy.
[1:58:13] Speaker 13: When it comes to the report that you just looked at,
[1:58:15] Speaker 13: what did they say, Roland? In that same report, what
[1:58:18] Speaker 13: they said was very simple. They said that this man
[1:58:20] Speaker 13: is very talented. He's very skilled. He knows what, and
[1:58:23] Speaker 13: because of his temperament, He would do better when being
[1:58:28] Speaker 13: guided by somebody who's a head coach who can take
[1:58:31] Speaker 13: advantage of those skills.
[1:58:33] Speaker 2: Well, guess what? Where have we heard that before?
[1:58:35] Speaker 13: You want a Negro recruiter to come get these boys
[1:58:37] Speaker 13: to come play for you.
[1:58:39] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:58:39] Speaker 2: You want that on your college staff.
[1:58:40] Speaker 13: You want a Negro on your staff that the players
[1:58:43] Speaker 13: can talk to.
[1:58:44] Speaker 3: Why?
[1:58:44] Speaker 13: Because you got to manage all these black men in
[1:58:46] Speaker 13: the locker room, but you can't be the boss. You
[1:58:49] Speaker 13: need someone to help you in these moments when the
[1:58:52] Speaker 13: players are about to rebel. So you've seen the Negro
[1:58:55] Speaker 13: on your staff and to talk to them, but they
[1:58:57] Speaker 13: can't be the leader. Let's be crystal clear about what
[1:59:00] Speaker 13: we're talking about. This man was the head coach of
[1:59:04] Speaker 13: the Miami Dolphins. They say, oh, well, he only was
[1:59:07] Speaker 13: like one game over 500. Yeah, but he beat Bill
[1:59:09] Speaker 13: Belichick's ass four times, didn't he?
[1:59:13] Speaker 2: But this is never going to change until we demonstrate
[1:59:17] Speaker 2: that we are willing to walk away from a plantation
[1:59:20] Speaker 2: where we are all the labor, where we are all
[1:59:23] Speaker 2: the genius to put the schemes together and everything else.
[1:59:25] Speaker 13: But we can't be the head coach because the National
[1:59:29] Speaker 13: Football League is a white man's football league, damn it.
[1:59:32] Speaker 13: And whether it be the owners, the fans or anybody else,
[1:59:35] Speaker 13: you shut your ass up. You go out there and
[1:59:37] Speaker 13: catch the ball. You run up and down the field,
[1:59:39] Speaker 13: damn it. And you can have a job underneath me.
[1:59:42] Speaker 13: But when it comes to Brian Flores, a son of
[1:59:44] Speaker 13: Honduran immigrants who grew up in Brooklyn, who has been
[1:59:47] Speaker 13: widely praised, including by Ian O'Connor in today's New York Times,
[1:59:50] Speaker 13: when he said, this is the pattern that goes on
[1:59:52] Speaker 13: and on and on. A man who checked the Rooney
[1:59:55] Speaker 13: Rule box until they get rid of that.
[1:59:57] Speaker 2: When it comes to Brian Flores, He knows damn well
[2:00:00] Speaker 2: what the story is.
[2:00:01] Speaker 13: In a white man's league, you take those bastards to
[2:00:04] Speaker 13: court and you just expose it to everybody else and
[2:00:06] Speaker 13: win or lose.
[2:00:07] Speaker 2: Then it's up to us to decide what we're going
[2:00:09] Speaker 2: to do. As far as I'm concerned, we're still so
[2:00:11] Speaker 2: far up white supremacies behind that we are not going
[2:00:15] Speaker 2: to turn our televisions off. And that is the barometer
[2:00:18] Speaker 2: by which we will ultimately be judged by history.
[2:00:20] Speaker 1: Michael, I hope Brian Flores exposes everything. I agree.
[2:00:29] Speaker 11: And going back to earlier in part of our conversation
[2:00:33] Speaker 11: about black Republicans, and I hate to draw a parallel,
[2:00:38] Speaker 11: but I remember when Brian, like I know him, Coach Flores,
[2:00:42] Speaker 11: started this discussion about lawsuits and exposing what was going
[2:00:46] Speaker 11: on and how the Rooney rule made no.
[2:00:48] Speaker 3: Sense and wasn't real. A lot of other black coaches
[2:00:52] Speaker 3: did not stand behind him.
[2:00:53] Speaker 11: Some did, and they should get credit, but a lot
[2:00:56] Speaker 11: did not. Because they wanted to make sure that they
[2:00:59] Speaker 11: were good. I don't want to get involved in that
[2:01:02] Speaker 11: because that could tarnish my opportunity of moving up. Rather
[2:01:06] Speaker 11: than we all seen that famous picture with Ali, Kareem
[2:01:10] Speaker 11: and Jim Brown and Bobby Mitchell and others that all
[2:01:13] Speaker 11: came together. All the African-American athletes came together to talk
[2:01:17] Speaker 11: about civil rights and they came together and stayed as
[2:01:21] Speaker 11: a group.
[2:01:22] Speaker 3: To talk about that same message.
[2:01:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, but Michael, remember, hold up. I understand that. Remember
[2:01:30] Speaker 1: when Kurt Flood sued, a lot of black major league
[2:01:34] Speaker 1: baseball stars didn't stand with Kurt Flood. I mean, when
[2:01:37] Speaker 1: you start a lot, listen, when John Mackey, when he
[2:01:41] Speaker 1: sued the NFL, a lot of black players didn't stand
[2:01:44] Speaker 1: with him. Listen, here's what I think we have to
[2:01:48] Speaker 1: sometimes recognize is, that there are black people who are
[2:01:52] Speaker 1: trying to protect their status, too. And the reality is,
[2:01:56] Speaker 1: if you look at many of these cases, history records
[2:02:00] Speaker 1: that when the moment was there for someone to stand up,
[2:02:05] Speaker 1: they often were alone.
[2:02:10] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[2:02:11] Speaker 11: I mean, it transcends itself in so many different ways.
[2:02:16] Speaker 11: industries in American life, whether business, athletics, politics, medicine, you
[2:02:22] Speaker 11: name it, you're exactly right.
[2:02:24] Speaker 1: So, again, I just, ooh, I'm hoping this thing goes
[2:02:28] Speaker 1: all the way. I really am. I mean, I'm talking about,
[2:02:32] Speaker 1: I want them to pull out every receipt. I can't
[2:02:36] Speaker 1: wait for cross-examination. I can't wait for them to subpoena black.
[2:02:40] Speaker 1: I can't wait for them to subpoena the commissioner and
[2:02:44] Speaker 1: subpoena all 32 owners. Bring y'all asses up in here.
[2:02:50] Speaker 1: And raise your right hand and let's see what they say.
[2:02:53] Speaker 1: Quick break. We're going to come back, talk about the
[2:02:55] Speaker 1: case of the black man in Ohio who killed a
[2:02:58] Speaker 1: cop after his son had been killed by police. You're
[2:03:01] Speaker 1: watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstone Network. All right, folks,
[2:03:07] Speaker 1: let me get personal for a second. My mom had
[2:03:09] Speaker 1: questions about her Medicare, so she called Chapter, a Medicare
[2:03:13] Speaker 1: advisory company, and she texted me right after saying it's
[2:03:16] Speaker 1: a great benefit. It was easy. A real person walked
[2:03:19] Speaker 1: her through the whole thing, and now she understands better
[2:03:22] Speaker 1: what's going on.
[2:03:23] Speaker 3: But it's also not just her.
[2:03:24] Speaker 1: A woman in Yonkers wrote in saying the process was
[2:03:27] Speaker 1: so simple, the enrollment was easy, and she was so
[2:03:30] Speaker 1: glad she called. Then there's Marilyn, 90 years old in Florida,
[2:03:33] Speaker 1: living on Social Security. Her premium climbed every single year
[2:03:37] Speaker 1: north of $ 400 a month for coverage she could barely
[2:03:40] Speaker 1: afford anymore.
[2:03:41] Speaker 2: So what does she do?
[2:03:43] Speaker 3: She called Chapter.
[2:03:44] Speaker 1: And they found her the same top tier coverage for
[2:03:47] Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars less. 90 years old and finally somebody
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[2:04:33] Speaker 10: His father took the Klan to court, bankrupted him, then
[2:04:36] Speaker 10: ran Jesse Jackson's campaign for president twice. His mom is
[2:04:41] Speaker 10: in the Alabama State Senate right now. So when Shamari
[2:04:45] Speaker 10: figures fight for our hospitals, our water, our housing, it's
[2:04:49] Speaker 10: not politics. It's in his blood. They redrew the map
[2:04:53] Speaker 10: to draw him and us out. And that's exactly why
[2:04:56] Speaker 10: we can't back down. Shamari figures.
[2:05:00] Speaker 2: Born ready. Vote November 3rd. I'm David Jolly, running for governor.
[2:05:05] Speaker 2: Byron Donalds is a liar.
[2:05:07] Speaker 22: I don't support a hurricane tax, taxes on your Social Security.
[2:05:11] Speaker 2: Oil drilling, or socialism.
[2:05:13] Speaker 22: I'm running for governor to cut your homeowner's insurance by 60%,
[2:05:16] Speaker 22: to ensure you can afford health care and gas and food,
[2:05:21] Speaker 22: to invest in good schools for our kids, and to
[2:05:23] Speaker 22: stop data centers. You see, Byron Donalds lies for the
[2:05:26] Speaker 22: special interest to control him.
[2:05:28] Speaker 3: I'll fight for you.
[2:05:32] Speaker 1: I'm Jose Javier Rodriguez. Our father left communist Cuba.
[2:05:36] Speaker 7: We know what it looks like when the powerful prey
[2:05:39] Speaker 7: on their own people.
[2:05:40] Speaker 24: When I stood up to corporations for screwing us, they
[2:05:42] Speaker 24: tried to give me hell.
[2:05:44] Speaker 1: I gave it right back.
[2:05:45] Speaker 3: I've spent my career fighting.
[2:05:46] Speaker 1: Crime and corruption.
[2:05:48] Speaker 24: My opponent, he uses the office of attorney general to
[2:05:50] Speaker 24: enrich himself and his friends, costing us money.
[2:05:54] Speaker 2: And we're sick of it.
[2:05:56] Speaker 7: I'm Jose Javier Rodriguez.
[2:05:57] Speaker 24: As attorney general, I'll keep fighting for you.
[2:06:05] Speaker 5: I'm Clifton Davis. You got one vote.
[2:06:08] Speaker 3: Use it.
[2:06:18] Speaker 1: An Ohio judge will allow a juror to decide a
[2:06:21] Speaker 1: lesser charge in the case of a black father who
[2:06:23] Speaker 1: ran down a police officer. Judge Jody Lubbers ruled in
[2:06:27] Speaker 1: favor of Rodney Hinton Jr. 's lawyer who filed a
[2:06:29] Speaker 1: motion seeking to add charges. a charge of reckless homicide.
[2:06:33] Speaker 1: Hinton was facing charges of aggravated murder and felonious assault.
[2:06:37] Speaker 1: He's accused of intentionally hitting and killing Sheriff Deputy Larry
[2:06:41] Speaker 1: Henderson with his car last year after viewing the body
[2:06:44] Speaker 1: cam video of his son's death. Hinton's son, Ryan, was
[2:06:47] Speaker 1: killed by a police officer just days before the crash.
[2:06:50] Speaker 1: Henderson was not responsible for Ryan's death. Hinton's lawyers hope
[2:06:54] Speaker 1: the jury will return a not guilty verdict on the
[2:06:56] Speaker 1: grounds of insanity. but they will take the lesser included,
[2:07:00] Speaker 1: including offense of reckless homicide. Jurors heard testimony from two
[2:07:04] Speaker 1: different psychologists who say that Hinton experienced a severe psychological
[2:07:09] Speaker 1: break after police killed his son. A jury will have
[2:07:11] Speaker 1: to decide whether or not Hinton is guilty of murder
[2:07:14] Speaker 1: or trying to commit suicide. This really is a very
[2:07:18] Speaker 1: difficult and emotional case, Jolanda, but his lawyers, again, are
[2:07:25] Speaker 1: hoping this insanity defense will work.
[2:07:30] Speaker 2: I hope it works.
[2:07:32] Speaker 12: I also hope that because they allowed the charge for
[2:07:36] Speaker 12: there to be jury nullification, for those of you who
[2:07:38] Speaker 12: don't know what jury nullification is, is you get somebody
[2:07:41] Speaker 12: on there and they'll make a decision that may not
[2:07:44] Speaker 12: necessarily follow the law, but it's the right result. And
[2:07:48] Speaker 12: the truth is, if somebody killed my kid and the
[2:07:51] Speaker 12: police officer who killed my kid unjustifiably did something, I
[2:07:55] Speaker 12: might do something like that.
[2:07:58] Speaker 2: Parents understand that.
[2:07:59] Speaker 12: And we also know as black people in this country
[2:08:02] Speaker 12: that we almost never get any kind of justice or
[2:08:06] Speaker 12: at least the justice that white folks would get when
[2:08:08] Speaker 12: the police murder us.
[2:08:10] Speaker 2: So I understand, I'm.
[2:08:11] Speaker 12: Glad that there was a win for the father, but
[2:08:14] Speaker 12: we all understand it. And I think the judge made
[2:08:17] Speaker 12: the right ruling. And I actually hope he gets off
[2:08:20] Speaker 12: because based on what I understand, I don't think in
[2:08:26] Speaker 12: that jurisdiction that his son was going to get the
[2:08:30] Speaker 12: kind of justice that his son deserves by the police officer.
[2:08:33] Speaker 2: So he took it into his own hands.
[2:08:34] Speaker 12: And I know people will say, oh, nobody believes in
[2:08:37] Speaker 12: vigilante justice, but you don't know what you do in
[2:08:40] Speaker 12: the heat of passion when somebody kills your kid.
[2:08:44] Speaker 1: Indeed. All right, folks, a federal judge has dismissed the
[2:08:47] Speaker 1: mortgage fraud charge against former Baltimore City State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby.
[2:08:51] Speaker 1: District Judge Lydia Grisby Granted, prosecutors request to dismiss the
[2:08:56] Speaker 1: charge as they decided not to retry Mosby. The charge
[2:08:59] Speaker 1: involved a $ 5, 000 gift letter used in connection with Mosby's
[2:09:03] Speaker 1: purchase of a condominium in Longboat Key, Florida. The Fourth
[2:09:07] Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals overturned the fraud conviction last year,
[2:09:10] Speaker 1: finding the jury received flawed instructions about where the alleged
[2:09:14] Speaker 1: crime could be prosecuted. Her perjury conviction remains in place
[2:09:18] Speaker 1: after the Supreme Court declined to hear her appeal earlier
[2:09:21] Speaker 1: this month. The charges stem from withdrawals totaling $ 40, 000 from
[2:09:25] Speaker 1: her city retirement account during the COVID-19 pandemic. A jury
[2:09:29] Speaker 1: found she falsely claimed financial hardship to avoid an early
[2:09:32] Speaker 1: withdrawal penalty. Now, Mosby did release a statement here. Give
[2:09:39] Speaker 1: me one second to pull that up, please. I thought
[2:09:42] Speaker 1: we had it, but give me one second.
[2:09:44] Speaker 5: Okay.
[2:09:48] Speaker 1: Let's see here. All right. Then here's her statement. I
[2:09:54] Speaker 1: thank God that this painful. Give me one second. I
[2:10:00] Speaker 1: thank God this painful chapter of my life is finally over.
[2:10:03] Speaker 1: The consent motion to dismiss my mortgage fraud conviction has
[2:10:06] Speaker 1: been granted and the conviction rightfully reversed and vacated just
[2:10:10] Speaker 1: as I was acquitted of the other baseless mortgage fraud charters.
[2:10:13] Speaker 1: This playbook didn't work. This playbook didn't work. Despite the
[2:10:17] Speaker 1: attempts to discredit me and disband to my career, I'm
[2:10:20] Speaker 1: still standing. I'm deeply grateful to my attorneys for their
[2:10:23] Speaker 1: unwavering advocacy, dedication and commitment to fighting for justice on
[2:10:26] Speaker 1: my behalf. While I celebrate this victory, another fight remains
[2:10:30] Speaker 1: protecting and retaining my law license. I will continue that
[2:10:33] Speaker 1: fight with faith, resilience and the unwavering belief that truth
[2:10:37] Speaker 1: and justice will prevail. God has the final say.
[2:10:40] Speaker 3: Greg.
[2:10:43] Speaker 13: Yeah, I hope she gets her license back. It's going
[2:10:46] Speaker 13: to be a struggle. It's going to be difficult. It's
[2:10:51] Speaker 13: not like she's a white man or she's not like
[2:10:54] Speaker 13: she's Donald Trump Jr. or Eric or, you know, Slender Man,
[2:10:58] Speaker 13: Jared Kushner, any of these folks. She's a black woman,
[2:11:00] Speaker 13: which means she's perpetually in the crosshairs. She's still got
[2:11:05] Speaker 13: those two federal perjury convictions.
[2:11:09] Speaker 2: What was it?
[2:11:10] Speaker 13: About a week and a half ago, the Supreme Court.
[2:11:12] Speaker 13: of the United States that criminal enterprise refused to hear that.
[2:11:16] Speaker 13: But I certainly hope if she can get that license
[2:11:19] Speaker 13: back and turn that corner, then she can rebuild.
[2:11:23] Speaker 2: And of course, she's young. She's clearly very talented politically.
[2:11:26] Speaker 13: I hope that Marilyn Mosby is set up for a
[2:11:29] Speaker 13: comeback at this point because this is just truly, truly
[2:11:33] Speaker 13: too much, too damn much in this damn criminal-ass country
[2:11:36] Speaker 13: to go after her for this.
[2:11:38] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And so, Again, we'll be paying attention to all
[2:11:44] Speaker 1: of that. All right, folks, before we go, I've got
[2:11:49] Speaker 1: a couple of other stories that I do want to
[2:11:53] Speaker 1: provide for you. One, and that is Tennessee State Representative
[2:11:56] Speaker 1: Justin Pearson is suing the Memphis City Council alleging officials
[2:12:00] Speaker 1: violated the First Amendment rights by banning him from upcoming meetings.
[2:12:04] Speaker 1: The lawsuit stems from an October 6th council meeting where
[2:12:07] Speaker 1: officials delayed a vote on a proposed moratorium on data
[2:12:10] Speaker 1: center development. The decision sparked protests, shouting matches, and a
[2:12:13] Speaker 1: fight in the council lobby, forcing the meeting to end early. Now,
[2:12:17] Speaker 1: Peterson and five other plaintiffs are asking a federal judge
[2:12:21] Speaker 1: to lift the two-meeting ban and block enforcement of the
[2:12:24] Speaker 1: council's speech restriction policy, which they argue violates their constitutional
[2:12:29] Speaker 1: right to free speech. The group wants to attend the
[2:12:31] Speaker 1: council's October 20th meeting where the council could revisit the
[2:12:34] Speaker 1: proposed data cinema moratorium. Sounds like they don't want the citizens, Jolanda,
[2:12:40] Speaker 1: expressing their sentiments.
[2:12:42] Speaker 2: Oh, you know what?
[2:12:43] Speaker 12: This is like giving me flashbacks, Roland, when city council
[2:12:48] Speaker 12: is making passing ordinances or laws or whatever to stifle
[2:12:53] Speaker 12: people's First Amendment right to speak.
[2:12:55] Speaker 1: You mean the city council there in Houston?
[2:13:00] Speaker 12: Well, when I was on the school board, they threatened
[2:13:03] Speaker 12: to make a whole ordinance to stop me from being
[2:13:07] Speaker 12: able to speak and to stop the people that came
[2:13:09] Speaker 12: up to speak during public session for saying stuff that
[2:13:12] Speaker 12: they didn't find appropriate. So they wanted to like regulate content.
[2:13:16] Speaker 12: The content of what you say, you can't do that.
[2:13:18] Speaker 2: Right. So I'm glad that Justin.
[2:13:21] Speaker 12: Is suing them because it does violate the First Amendment.
[2:13:25] Speaker 12: And really quick note, Jamie Davis, the Democratic nominee, Louisiana Senate,
[2:13:32] Speaker 12: you said hadn't got back with you. I texted him.
[2:13:36] Speaker 12: And so he texted me back. I'm going to put
[2:13:39] Speaker 12: y'all in contact with each other where y'all can have direct.
[2:13:42] Speaker 1: Numbers so that he can do that.
[2:13:44] Speaker 2: But let me be clear. Hold on.
[2:13:45] Speaker 1: Just give it to Carol. Give it to Carol. Has
[2:13:48] Speaker 1: she been trying to hit him?
[2:13:49] Speaker 2: Go ahead.
[2:13:51] Speaker 12: But if the courts follow the law, then the injunction
[2:13:58] Speaker 12: against them speaking for those two council members of the
[2:14:02] Speaker 12: council meetings should be lifted.
[2:14:06] Speaker 2: And they should get to speak and say what it
[2:14:07] Speaker 2: is they want to say.
[2:14:09] Speaker 12: But with all these Trump judges and all these appeal
[2:14:12] Speaker 12: courts that have all these Trump appointed nominees and all
[2:14:14] Speaker 12: these Republicans who are standing in line to kiss Trump's ass,
[2:14:20] Speaker 12: I don't know if the right result will happen.
[2:14:23] Speaker 2: But if they follow the law and.
[2:14:24] Speaker 12: Stare decisis means anything, which for those of you who
[2:14:27] Speaker 12: aren't lawyers, stare decisis for the most part means the
[2:14:30] Speaker 12: law is established. This is what it is and you
[2:14:32] Speaker 12: should follow it. That is not recognized under this era
[2:14:36] Speaker 12: of Trump. But if they follow the law, then Justin
[2:14:39] Speaker 12: should be able to say whatever the hell they want
[2:14:40] Speaker 12: to say. But they also want not for Justin to
[2:14:44] Speaker 12: be able to go there and speak truth to power.
[2:14:46] Speaker 12: They want him to have one less forum that people
[2:14:49] Speaker 12: pay attention to. So they're trying to shut him up
[2:14:52] Speaker 12: by shutting him out of the city council meetings.
[2:14:54] Speaker 10: Greg?
[2:14:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
[2:14:58] Speaker 5: I agree.
[2:14:59] Speaker 13: But I mean, you said all that needed to be said, Roland,
[2:15:01] Speaker 13: earlier in the show. If Memphis votes its numbers... they
[2:15:07] Speaker 13: going to be able to get rid of Justin Pierce. So,
[2:15:11] Speaker 13: you know, it is, I mean, I just end with this.
[2:15:13] Speaker 13: I mean, all the guests up and down the show,
[2:15:16] Speaker 13: as always, this is the essential importance of Black Star Network.
[2:15:20] Speaker 13: You know, you can't watch these last couple of hours
[2:15:22] Speaker 13: and not come away with a sense of being re-energized
[2:15:26] Speaker 13: and motivated to go out there and talk to the
[2:15:28] Speaker 13: people who may stay at home, talk to the people
[2:15:30] Speaker 13: who are thinking, ah, it doesn't matter to me because
[2:15:32] Speaker 13: you're giving evidence-based information commentary, which says, if we get
[2:15:37] Speaker 13: in the fight, we will win. So no, Justin Pearson
[2:15:41] Speaker 13: will be in the Congress if and when Memphis decides
[2:15:44] Speaker 13: with enough numbers that we're going.
[2:15:46] Speaker 2: To put him in the Congress.
[2:15:47] Speaker 13: You can't gerrymander your way out of all of this
[2:15:50] Speaker 13: right now. You're dying at a higher rate. And ultimately,
[2:15:53] Speaker 13: we are going to overwhelm you.
[2:15:55] Speaker 2: So, yeah, man.
[2:15:56] Speaker 13: And listen, those ads in between, it's good to see
[2:15:59] Speaker 13: that our people have gotten the memo to talk to
[2:16:02] Speaker 13: our people.
[2:16:03] Speaker 2: So, I mean, yeah, just all around another incredible show.
[2:16:06] Speaker 2: And you're making that point over and over again.
[2:16:08] Speaker 1: Let's get involved. Well, it's good to see they finally
[2:16:09] Speaker 1: got the memo to cut some damn checks. because I've
[2:16:13] Speaker 1: been seeing all these other damn media folks running ads
[2:16:18] Speaker 1: and making millions of dollars, and there's a lot of
[2:16:22] Speaker 1: black-owned media people who ain't been getting jacked. Last thing,
[2:16:27] Speaker 1: I'm trying to go, but there's too much black shit
[2:16:30] Speaker 1: going on. Go to my iPad. I've been trying to
[2:16:34] Speaker 1: go home because I've got to pack because I've got
[2:16:37] Speaker 1: to fly to Indianapolis tomorrow at noon. The Charlotte Mecklenburg
[2:16:41] Speaker 1: Police Department, the police chief says there is no evidence
[2:16:44] Speaker 1: that racist text messages affected law enforcement there. Now, three
[2:16:49] Speaker 1: police officers have already resigned. The review board says unanimously
[2:16:53] Speaker 1: recommended three other cops should be, the other cops should
[2:16:56] Speaker 1: be terminated and have their law enforcement certifications revoked. So
[2:17:01] Speaker 1: police chief Estella Patterson, she announced that an internal CMPD
[2:17:06] Speaker 1: investigation found no evidence A biased group text thread impacted
[2:17:10] Speaker 1: criminal cases or enforcement, even though they said they would
[2:17:14] Speaker 1: say in there how they were. They had a contest
[2:17:16] Speaker 1: on who can arrest the most black people. According to Patterson,
[2:17:20] Speaker 1: the message thread spanned several years and involves six department
[2:17:23] Speaker 1: employees representing three different racial backgrounds. Four of the six
[2:17:27] Speaker 1: officers belong to the 2024 recruiting class. Patterson described her
[2:17:31] Speaker 1: personal reaction to the findings as one of disgust. Anger
[2:17:34] Speaker 1: and frustration following the discovery, Patterson said the department ordered
[2:17:38] Speaker 1: the body worn camera footage, arrest records, external complaint histories
[2:17:43] Speaker 1: and traffic stops of traffic data of the officers involved.
[2:17:46] Speaker 1: As of this point, we have not found any evidence
[2:17:49] Speaker 1: of this pattern. said, regarding potential biased enforcement. She addressed
[2:17:54] Speaker 1: the community impact directly, pointing to her own career path
[2:17:57] Speaker 1: with the agency. Just real quick, thoughts of Greg, you
[2:18:05] Speaker 1: look a little perplexed.
[2:18:08] Speaker 2: You know why? Why'd they quit? And she come on back.
[2:18:12] Speaker 1: Why did three resign? Why did three resign?
[2:18:15] Speaker 2: That's what I was talking about earlier.
[2:18:18] Speaker 13: They will say, oh, this is personal animus.
[2:18:20] Speaker 2: They just hateful, whatever. There's no pattern.
[2:18:23] Speaker 13: They trying to avoid how many millions of dollars of lawsuits,
[2:18:26] Speaker 13: Representative Jones? They trying to avoid a big payouts. And
[2:18:29] Speaker 13: I can understand that. But how the hell are you
[2:18:31] Speaker 13: going to say there's no impact?
[2:18:34] Speaker 2: At the same time, you got rid of them.
[2:18:36] Speaker 5: Yeah, man.
[2:18:37] Speaker 2: The lawsuits are coming. I think we could probably all
[2:18:39] Speaker 2: predict that.
[2:18:40] Speaker 1: Jelana, this report from QC of the Metro says the
[2:18:42] Speaker 1: text messages were uncovered during a State Bureau of Investigation
[2:18:46] Speaker 1: inquiry into an officer's misuse of license plate reader technology.
[2:18:50] Speaker 1: The SBI shared information with CMPD's Internal Affairs Unit for
[2:18:54] Speaker 1: a parallel internal inquiry, leading investigators directly to the text thread.
[2:18:58] Speaker 1: CMPD subsequently convened an independent chain of command board hearing.
[2:19:02] Speaker 1: Patterson said the board voted unanimously to recommend termination for
[2:19:06] Speaker 1: the A recommendation sheet full of supports. To Greg's point, hell,
[2:19:11] Speaker 1: if y'all didn't find an impact on anything, why did
[2:19:13] Speaker 1: three quit and why y'all want to follow the other three?
[2:19:15] Speaker 5: Hmm.
[2:19:18] Speaker 12: This is what I, we have literally spent an entire
[2:19:21] Speaker 12: show today, mostly talking about Negroes who happy being there
[2:19:26] Speaker 12: and who will pee on us and tell us it's
[2:19:27] Speaker 12: raining for the most part. So on the one hand,
[2:19:30] Speaker 12: she's a black woman. She's disappointed, you know, about this
[2:19:34] Speaker 12: and it's serious. Yet they didn't find word affected.
[2:19:36] Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
[2:19:37] Speaker 12: Their foundational belief is how many black people can we
[2:19:40] Speaker 12: arrest and they have a competition to be the winner.
[2:19:43] Speaker 12: It absolutely did. So she talking out the side of
[2:19:46] Speaker 12: her neck. It doesn't make sense. And I just wish...
[2:19:50] Speaker 12: that black folks who are in positions to make a
[2:19:54] Speaker 12: difference would make the damn difference.
[2:19:56] Speaker 2: But like it was said earlier, it's about to be
[2:19:59] Speaker 2: some lawsuits.
[2:20:00] Speaker 12: And if I were the lawyer for any of the
[2:20:03] Speaker 12: people who were arrested by any of these officers, I'd
[2:20:06] Speaker 12: try to undo every single solitary arrest, every single solitary conviction.
[2:20:12] Speaker 12: And I would try to make sure that it's a
[2:20:14] Speaker 12: class action so we can freaking bankrupt the police department.
[2:20:17] Speaker 12: Because the only thing that rich people listen to is
[2:20:22] Speaker 12: when you screw with their pocketbook, period, point blank, full stop.
[2:20:28] Speaker 1: That's America. America only understands money. And when you start
[2:20:31] Speaker 1: hitting them in the pocketbook, folks start paying attention. All right, folks,
[2:20:35] Speaker 1: funeral arrangements for R & B legend Freddie Jackson have
[2:20:38] Speaker 1: been set. According to a post on Jackson's Instagram page,
[2:20:41] Speaker 1: the funeral will be held at Mount Nebo Baptist Church
[2:20:44] Speaker 1: in Harlem on Monday, October 19th at 10 a.m. Jackson
[2:20:48] Speaker 1: died Monday, October 5th at the age of 70. We will,
[2:20:52] Speaker 1: of course, be picking up their live stream. We will
[2:20:54] Speaker 1: carry that live stream right here live. on Roland Martin
[2:20:58] Speaker 1: Unfiltered and the Black Star Network. Again, that funeral is
[2:21:02] Speaker 1: set for 10 a.m.
[2:21:03] Speaker 3: On Monday.
[2:21:03] Speaker 1: All right, y'all. We got some travel ahead. I'm going
[2:21:06] Speaker 1: to be in Indianapolis on Saturday for the State of
[2:21:10] Speaker 1: Black America. We got a couple of panels. I'll be there.
[2:21:13] Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and show that. So looking forward to that.
[2:21:15] Speaker 1: So get your tickets. In Indianapolis, more than a thousand
[2:21:18] Speaker 1: have already been sold. So we're going to be at
[2:21:20] Speaker 1: the C.J. Walker Center. So look forward to that Sunday.
[2:21:25] Speaker 1: I'm joining Pastor Cody Deese at his church. I'm going
[2:21:29] Speaker 1: to be the speaker there for their. Well, they, of course,
[2:21:33] Speaker 1: even dealing with white fear, my book, White Fear. And
[2:21:35] Speaker 1: so we have Pastor Cody Dees right here on the show,
[2:21:39] Speaker 1: Vinings Lake Church. And so he, of course, has been
[2:21:42] Speaker 1: one of the white pastors who's been calling out these
[2:21:44] Speaker 1: white Christian evangelicals. So white conservative evangelicals look forward to that.
[2:21:47] Speaker 1: All right, y'all. Next week, our Black Votes Matter tour.
[2:21:51] Speaker 1: We are going to be in Jackson, Mississippi, at the
[2:21:54] Speaker 1: state office of the NAACP on Monday night. So if
[2:21:59] Speaker 1: you're in Jackson, Mississippi or nearby, we want you to
[2:22:01] Speaker 1: come out. We want a packed audience. Scott Cologne running
[2:22:05] Speaker 1: for United States Senate is going to be there. Look
[2:22:08] Speaker 1: forward to that Tuesday. We're going to be in an
[2:22:11] Speaker 1: Alabama state in Montgomery. That's right. Alabama State. in the
[2:22:16] Speaker 1: uh in the student center ballroom so that's going to
[2:22:19] Speaker 1: be again so we want all the students there if
[2:22:21] Speaker 1: you're in Montgomery pack it out Mayor Stephen Reed is
[2:22:24] Speaker 1: going to be there I'll be interviewing uh Congressman Shamari
[2:22:27] Speaker 1: Figures we'll have that on the show as well Wednesday
[2:22:30] Speaker 1: we still are waiting for our location we're going to
[2:22:32] Speaker 1: be in Miami Gardens So we're going to be in
[2:22:35] Speaker 1: Miami Gardens. That's right. Miami-Dade County. Look forward to that
[2:22:38] Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Thursday, Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in West Palm Beach.
[2:22:44] Speaker 1: That's right. West Palm Beach. We're going to be there
[2:22:47] Speaker 1: on a Thursday. Again, 6 to 8 p.m. We want
[2:22:50] Speaker 1: you to pack it out. And Friday, we'll be in Tallahassee.
[2:22:53] Speaker 1: So we're still trying to lock down exactly where we're
[2:22:55] Speaker 1: going to broadcast on Wednesday, Thursday. And Friday, look forward
[2:22:58] Speaker 1: to that. Saturday, I'm in Toledo, Ohio, speaking to the
[2:23:02] Speaker 1: NAACP in Toledo, Ohio. So I look forward to that.
[2:23:06] Speaker 1: So I got to get home and pack for the
[2:23:08] Speaker 1: next seven days. So we're going to be on the
[2:23:10] Speaker 1: road broadcasting. And so we're putting together the week after that.
[2:23:14] Speaker 1: We're trying to work it out. We're probably going to
[2:23:15] Speaker 1: be in Georgia and Texas is trying to make that
[2:23:18] Speaker 1: thing happen.
[2:23:19] Speaker 3: Work.
[2:23:19] Speaker 1: So we know we're coming down to the deadline when
[2:23:21] Speaker 1: it comes to this election. We want to be out
[2:23:23] Speaker 1: there talking to you, hearing from you. Listen up. We're
[2:23:27] Speaker 1: going to be out there. We want you to show
[2:23:28] Speaker 1: up and show out there in Jackson, Mississippi, Montgomery, Alabama
[2:23:33] Speaker 1: and Florida as well. And so we certainly. I want
[2:23:36] Speaker 1: to see y'all. Let me thank Michael. Hopefully you can
[2:23:38] Speaker 1: get that cricket Wi-Fi fixed. Representative Jolanda Jones, I appreciate it.
[2:23:43] Speaker 2: Dr.
[2:23:44] Speaker 1: Greg Carr, I appreciate it as well. Thanks a bunch. So, folks,
[2:23:47] Speaker 1: I'll be live tomorrow from Indianapolis. Since I got to
[2:23:51] Speaker 1: be there early on Saturday, I got to fly tomorrow.
[2:23:53] Speaker 1: So I'll be broadcasting from there tomorrow. But in the meantime,
[2:23:56] Speaker 1: do me a favor. Get my book pre-ordered right now.
[2:23:58] Speaker 1: My new book, Black Forward. Marching Orders for the Fight
[2:24:01] Speaker 1: Against Jim Crow 2.0. You can, of course, preorder that
[2:24:05] Speaker 1: book right now. I turn 58 on November 14th. We
[2:24:08] Speaker 1: want to sell 5,800 copies by then. We want to
[2:24:10] Speaker 1: make the New York Times bestseller list. I'm talking about
[2:24:13] Speaker 1: what black people, black organizations have to be doing to
[2:24:16] Speaker 1: fight back against these fascists who are attacking our people.
[2:24:20] Speaker 1: And so please do so. And of course, I got
[2:24:24] Speaker 1: my current book, White Fear. Hey, we're going to have copies.
[2:24:26] Speaker 1: I'll be signing copies of this in Indianapolis, in Atlanta,
[2:24:30] Speaker 1: in Jackson, Mississippi, Montgomery, in Florida. So if you haven't
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[2:28:22] Speaker 9: Holla!

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