# Trump DOJ Targets Elections. Ben Crump Joins Nolan Wells Case. Black Woman Wrongfully Arrested

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 9 Jul 2026, 2 h 20 min.

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7.8.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Trump DOJ Targets Elections. Ben Crump Joins Nolan Wells Case. Black Woman Wrongfully Arrested _ For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* _ Download the Kalshi app and use code Soccer10 to get $10 when you trade $10. You can also sign up at kalshi.com/r/soccer10, which auto-applies the code at checkout. Kalshi. Trade What's Next _ Trump's DOJ sent a warning to state officials in all 50 states and the District of Columbia that they could face criminal prosecution over noncitizen voting and will send election monitors to 15 jurisdictions in six states during the 2026 primary season. We'll examine a new, comprehensive, multiracial study of the disaffected electorate that shows they are reachable. We'll talk to one of the lead researchers about the findings. Civil Rights Attorney Harry Daniels is here to talk about two cases: A Black North Carolina woman is suing a Gaston County Police Department officer and an Advanced Auto Parts employee for a wrongful arrest that left her jobless and homeless. And a Black Delaware family wants the body cam video released of the police shooting of 19-year-old Kadir Skinner, who was shot in the back. The stepmother of one of the white teens who was with Nolan Wells before he disappeared explains why she deactivated her social media. The twice-impeached, criminally convicted felon-in-chief, Donald "the Con" Trump, is promoting what he's calling the Freedom Fuel Network, which claims to have the lowest gas prices. But is there a financial connection to the grifter occupying the Oval Office? And we'll replay my conversation with Virginia's first black House Speaker, Don Scott, when we attended the Virginia Democrats' 2026 Blue Commonwealth Gala Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:26] Speaker 3: you for being the boys of black American roles.
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[0:38] Speaker 6: media and something like seeing.
[0:40] Speaker 7: In you can't be black owned media.
[0:43] Speaker 2: And be scape.
[0:44] Speaker 1: It's time to be smart.
[0:45] Speaker 2: Bring your eyeballs hole you dig.
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[1:25] Speaker 3: So that's Wednesday, July eight, twenty twenty six, coming up
[1:28] Speaker 3: and ROLLINGD marked the unfiltered streaming live of the Blackstar Network.
[1:31] Speaker 3: Virginia Democrats had huge success in twenty twenty five. They
[1:36] Speaker 3: were led by the first black Speaker of the House,
[1:39] Speaker 3: Don Scott'll show you what he had to say in
[1:41] Speaker 3: terms of what his strategy is moving forward for the Commonwealth.
[1:45] Speaker 3: Donald Trump's dojson a warning to state officials in all
[1:48] Speaker 3: fifty states in the District of Columbia if they could
[1:51] Speaker 3: face criminal prosecution over nonsenizen voting, and will send election
[1:55] Speaker 3: monitors to fifteen states jurisdictions in six states for the
[2:00] Speaker 3: November election. Will examine a new comprehensive multi racial study
[2:04] Speaker 3: of a disaffected electric as shows they are reachable. We'll
[2:07] Speaker 3: talk to one of the lead researchers about that. Civil
[2:10] Speaker 3: rights attorney Harry Daniels is here to talk about two cases,
[2:13] Speaker 3: a black North Carolina woman suing a Gaston County Police
[2:16] Speaker 3: Department officer and an advanced autoparts employee for wrongful arrest
[2:20] Speaker 3: left her jobless and homeless. Plus a black Delaware family
[2:23] Speaker 3: wants the bodycam video released the police shooting of nineteen
[2:26] Speaker 3: year old Kadeer Skinner was shot in the back. The
[2:29] Speaker 3: stepmother one of the white teams who was with Nolan
[2:32] Speaker 3: Wells before he disappeared, explains why she deactivated her social
[2:35] Speaker 3: media account. Plus a twice in Peach criminally convicted fellow
[2:39] Speaker 3: in chief Donald the con Trump is promoting what he's
[2:42] Speaker 3: calling the Freedom Field Network, which claims to have the
[2:45] Speaker 3: lowest gas prices, but is their financial connection to the
[2:49] Speaker 3: grif here occupying the Oval office? Plus more right here,
[2:54] Speaker 3: as we talk about this attack on Black America, lots
[2:57] Speaker 3: to break down, it's time to bring the punk a
[2:59] Speaker 3: rollerd Mark filters on a Black Sudden network.
[3:01] Speaker 2: Let's go.
[3:04] Speaker 9: Whatever whatever it is he's got, fine now to believes
[3:10] Speaker 9: he's right on time.
[3:12] Speaker 10: It is rollan best believe.
[3:14] Speaker 9: He's going from Boston news to politics with entertainment. Just
[3:21] Speaker 9: he'ss golden, he's here, she's real.
[3:40] Speaker 4: Good question.
[3:40] Speaker 5: No, he's rolling Monte.
[3:53] Speaker 2: Virginia.
[3:54] Speaker 3: The success in Virginia where Democrats control the House, sitting
[3:58] Speaker 3: in the governor's man could that be a road map
[4:02] Speaker 3: for Democrats across the country, but also the investments made
[4:07] Speaker 3: in reaching black voters. I talked to the Speaker of
[4:10] Speaker 3: the House, Don Scott. We were at the Virginia Democrats
[4:12] Speaker 3: common with Gayla about that and other issues.
[4:14] Speaker 2: Here's our conversation.
[4:16] Speaker 11: I'm just saying, but I'm doing the thing.
[4:19] Speaker 3: You need a pocket square. I'm just saying, don't do that.
[4:22] Speaker 3: You need some I can tell you need some flavor. Folks,
[4:26] Speaker 3: Virginia Speak of the House, Don Scott. Uh went to
[4:30] Speaker 3: this little inferior high school, Sterling High School, and come on, now,
[4:34] Speaker 3: you know.
[4:34] Speaker 11: I'm not getting to this yate Sterling. We're not gonna
[4:36] Speaker 11: do this faster side today. No, No, we'll love y'all.
[4:40] Speaker 11: We vote from from We used to beat y'all down. No, no, no, stop,
[4:45] Speaker 11: you don't want to do that right now. I'm just
[4:48] Speaker 11: let's not do that.
[4:48] Speaker 3: Right I'm gonna ask one simple question. I'm gonna answer
[4:51] Speaker 3: one simple question. As your school ever celebrated state championship
[4:55] Speaker 3: in football? Not that I come, no, not not in
[5:00] Speaker 3: the pv I L.
[5:02] Speaker 11: But who's y'all's biggest not in athlete to come out
[5:04] Speaker 11: of yates?
[5:05] Speaker 7: Oh, I said, the one they knew, the biggest one.
[5:08] Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Dexter Manley.
[5:10] Speaker 11: Okay, he has nothing on Clyde Drexel. Can we move on,
[5:12] Speaker 11: Let's drop the mic. Oh god, you have nothing to say.
[5:15] Speaker 2: Did y'all win to stay titled?
[5:16] Speaker 8: When he was?
[5:17] Speaker 7: Clyde was there and he was he was, okay, all right, So.
[5:19] Speaker 11: Y'all y'all didn't win nothing, but the biggest y'all didn't
[5:22] Speaker 11: win nothing out of age time. This I mean, we
[5:24] Speaker 11: got so many state titles, just god, picket, women's basketball,
[5:28] Speaker 11: man's basketball, the ball, y'all stack the deck, the third War,
[5:33] Speaker 11: all the talent in the third.
[5:34] Speaker 7: Ward, you know, and then of course we third ward
[5:35] Speaker 7: you already know.
[5:36] Speaker 11: Then we got Debbie Allen, Felicia Rashad, Oh my god.
[5:40] Speaker 2: You know Roland Martin.
[5:42] Speaker 11: I mean, come on, oh my god, you put you Okay,
[5:44] Speaker 11: you belong there?
[5:45] Speaker 7: Of course I do you do I gotta give you
[5:47] Speaker 7: a problem. You know, I'm not gonna hat on you
[5:49] Speaker 7: who do who.
[5:50] Speaker 11: Who celebrates rolling Bard for me, don't say don't get stuck.
[5:54] Speaker 11: Somebody call and say somebody rolling one. I'm gonna CRUs
[5:57] Speaker 11: him out. Let's talk about what's happening. You now have
[6:01] Speaker 11: the trifecta. You do not have that.
[6:04] Speaker 3: Many Republicans have more places in the country where they
[6:10] Speaker 3: control House, Senate, and governess mansion. Explain to folks who
[6:15] Speaker 3: don't understand what that means. Having the ability to control
[6:19] Speaker 3: your political destiny.
[6:20] Speaker 7: We get to control the agenda.
[6:22] Speaker 11: We get to set the agenda on what is going
[6:24] Speaker 11: to be heard, what's going to be done. We're going
[6:26] Speaker 11: to make sure in Virginia. Just look at Virginia Loan,
[6:29] Speaker 11: a southern state. The first thing that we did when
[6:31] Speaker 11: we got the trifector is that we made sure that
[6:34] Speaker 11: we enshrine a woman's right to take care of own
[6:37] Speaker 11: medical her own body, have bodily autonomy to take care
[6:40] Speaker 11: of own medical issues. Kept politicians out of the doctor's office.
[6:44] Speaker 11: The second thing that we did was we restored rights.
[6:47] Speaker 11: Virginia had a long gym crow history of felony, disenfranchisement,
[6:51] Speaker 11: we did that that will all go into ballot and
[6:54] Speaker 11: then we we're going to valot in November. They're going
[6:56] Speaker 11: to ballot this November. That's why this November is so important.
[6:59] Speaker 11: And we have to re elect walk Warner and then
[7:01] Speaker 11: we have to let the new Congress folks will reelect
[7:03] Speaker 11: Bobby Scott and Jennifer McClellan. But when you said, when
[7:07] Speaker 11: you have the trifactor, we get to set the agenda.
[7:09] Speaker 7: And what we did this year.
[7:10] Speaker 11: We gave teachers a four percent pay raise, We gave
[7:13] Speaker 11: state employees a three and a half percent pay raise.
[7:15] Speaker 11: We put unprecedented dollars in healthcare to make up for
[7:18] Speaker 11: the big BS bill that they did that we had
[7:21] Speaker 11: to restore so people can be able to buy health insurance.
[7:23] Speaker 11: To make sure that we kept hungry children from this
[7:27] Speaker 11: summer from going children this summer from going hungry, but
[7:30] Speaker 11: make sure we put money in the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance
[7:32] Speaker 11: Program and the SNAP program. We have done everything that
[7:36] Speaker 11: the community and the comewealth of Virginia asked us to
[7:39] Speaker 11: do to offset what Donald Trump and the MAGA folks
[7:43] Speaker 11: up in DC have done and the kind of harm
[7:45] Speaker 11: that they've called here in Virginia has been palpable, but
[7:49] Speaker 11: we have been resilient. Our budget is strong and because
[7:51] Speaker 11: and that is because Democrats are here and democrats also
[7:55] Speaker 11: we can walk into gum, we can take care of
[7:57] Speaker 11: workers every day, and we can make sure that we
[7:59] Speaker 11: grow the business community and be true to the values
[8:01] Speaker 11: to be able to give people the opportunity to have
[8:03] Speaker 11: in product.
[8:04] Speaker 3: Well, how do you also explain to people who really
[8:09] Speaker 3: who don't understand as always how the sausage is made,
[8:14] Speaker 3: who don't understand public policy Because a lot of folk complain,
[8:20] Speaker 3: a lot of people say they want stuff to be done,
[8:23] Speaker 3: but they really have to understand that process. And I
[8:28] Speaker 3: keep saying that we got to have, especially of our community,
[8:31] Speaker 3: We got to have massive citizenship education training where people
[8:35] Speaker 3: understand what a city count does, a school board does,
[8:39] Speaker 3: county commission does, state and what congressional folks do.
[8:44] Speaker 11: And folks how to understand democracy is not a destination.
[8:47] Speaker 11: You have to do it every single day. You don't
[8:49] Speaker 11: get to say, oh, we want an election is over.
[8:51] Speaker 11: That's another election. In Virginia. We have one every single year,
[8:54] Speaker 11: so there is always something going on. You have to
[8:56] Speaker 11: stay engaged. You can't be despair I've heard people say, well,
[9:00] Speaker 11: that didn't go my way, and so now what do
[9:02] Speaker 11: we do next?
[9:03] Speaker 7: What do you do next? That you get back up
[9:04] Speaker 7: and fight.
[9:05] Speaker 11: And we're from a community down in Texas where we know,
[9:07] Speaker 11: you know, we just celebrated Juneteenth. We have a legacy
[9:11] Speaker 11: that we've in heerded that we have to continue to fight.
[9:14] Speaker 11: We don't get the chance to have going too despair
[9:16] Speaker 11: and start feeling for ourselves. We have to continue to
[9:19] Speaker 11: fight each and every day because we're not only doing
[9:21] Speaker 11: it for us, We're blessing our ancestors, and we also
[9:24] Speaker 11: making sure that we take care of our project and
[9:26] Speaker 11: our children that are going to come beyond us. And
[9:28] Speaker 11: so we have to continue to fight the policy issue.
[9:30] Speaker 11: There are people that I know who had been in
[9:32] Speaker 11: the minority for twenty years straight, in the House of
[9:35] Speaker 11: Delegates twenty years straight, and they had been pushing the
[9:38] Speaker 11: same ideas, the same agenda for a long time. And
[9:41] Speaker 11: finally when we got the majority, we were able to
[9:44] Speaker 11: do some of those great policies. Do criminal justice reform,
[9:47] Speaker 11: make sure we take care of our kids, invest in
[9:49] Speaker 11: public education. We invested billions, not millions, billions in public
[9:54] Speaker 11: education over the last two years that we've had the majority,
[9:57] Speaker 11: and so I feel like folks need to understand this
[9:59] Speaker 11: makes a different in everybody's life, right, you need to
[10:01] Speaker 11: make sure that we continued.
[10:02] Speaker 2: So a couple of days ago, I interviewed.
[10:05] Speaker 3: Congressman Hakim Jefferys, Democratic leader, and I talked about and
[10:11] Speaker 3: I said to him point blank, I said that black
[10:13] Speaker 3: voters have changed, that you can't use the old model
[10:17] Speaker 3: of how you go out and get black folks to vote.
[10:20] Speaker 3: I said, you're going to have to spend three to
[10:22] Speaker 3: four times as much time, three to four times as
[10:25] Speaker 3: much money reach out to them because it's just a
[10:29] Speaker 3: different perspective when it comes to voters.
[10:32] Speaker 2: And in his response, he.
[10:35] Speaker 3: Talked about what y'all did here in Virginia to understand
[10:39] Speaker 3: how you got controlled, and that, to me is what
[10:45] Speaker 3: should be happening nationally. Are other are democrats in other
[10:48] Speaker 3: states get They're trying to hold a Senate se in Georgia.
[10:52] Speaker 3: I'm trying to capture the Senate sat in North Carolina,
[10:55] Speaker 3: obviously Texas with Tall Rico Florida. Then you have Sharon
[10:59] Speaker 3: Brown in Oio, you have Iowa, Alaska, and then of
[11:03] Speaker 3: course trying to win the House are they are they
[11:06] Speaker 3: reaching out to you and saying, hey, Speaker Scott, show
[11:10] Speaker 3: us what you did and explain.
[11:12] Speaker 11: To us how you did it. You know, sadly those
[11:15] Speaker 11: leaders are not. But the Democratic activists around the country
[11:19] Speaker 11: are the people that want to win, and they're trying
[11:21] Speaker 11: to get the gage.
[11:21] Speaker 7: They have reached out to me.
[11:22] Speaker 2: So the leadership is not sitting here going The.
[11:24] Speaker 11: Only leader who has spoken to me consistently is Haqem Jeffries.
[11:28] Speaker 11: To his credit, we have talked several times about what
[11:30] Speaker 11: we needed to do, and he has he has, and
[11:32] Speaker 11: I've seen him implement some of the things.
[11:34] Speaker 7: That I've talked about.
[11:35] Speaker 11: You got to remember when I came in, I was
[11:37] Speaker 11: the minority leader in twenty twenty two.
[11:39] Speaker 7: My job was to win twenty.
[11:41] Speaker 11: Three in a tough environment where Joe Biden was at
[11:43] Speaker 11: thirty eight percent in Virginia and approval ratings, who had
[11:45] Speaker 11: a very popular governor here, Republican governor who was doing
[11:48] Speaker 11: everything that's power to keep us in a minority. We
[11:50] Speaker 11: won back the majority with a two vote majority, fifty
[11:54] Speaker 11: one to forty nine in the House. That was one
[11:55] Speaker 11: hundred seats, and then we took that twenty twenty three
[11:58] Speaker 11: victory and in twenty twenty five with engaging African American
[12:02] Speaker 11: voters in a real sustain not just wait into election week,
[12:05] Speaker 11: but early on.
[12:06] Speaker 7: It's staying, going.
[12:07] Speaker 11: Into communities over a period of time, engaging Latino voters,
[12:10] Speaker 11: engaging Asian American votes, engaging all voters. Because people need
[12:13] Speaker 11: to understand black voters want the same thing every voter wants.
[12:16] Speaker 11: They want safe schools, they want a resilient economy, they
[12:19] Speaker 11: want public safety. They want the same thing. We keep thinking,
[12:21] Speaker 11: people keep saying, well, what do black voters want?
[12:23] Speaker 7: They want a job, they want to work. They want
[12:25] Speaker 7: to believe that they have if they do.
[12:26] Speaker 11: They want a business, they want to know they have aspirations.
[12:30] Speaker 11: They want to be able to start a business. They
[12:31] Speaker 11: want to be able to have access capital. They want
[12:34] Speaker 11: to be able to make sure that the plan field
[12:35] Speaker 11: is fair. They don't want they like James Brown, they
[12:37] Speaker 11: don't want about to give them nothing, just open up
[12:39] Speaker 11: the door. They get it to self. And so I
[12:41] Speaker 11: think we need to continue to understand that black voters
[12:44] Speaker 11: have the same aspirations that every other voter. And I
[12:46] Speaker 11: think what's happening is we started speaking just down the voter.
[12:50] Speaker 11: Sometimes and I think we need to go back to communicating,
[12:52] Speaker 11: and we spend a lot of energy, and we were
[12:54] Speaker 11: able to take that fifty one to forty nine majority
[12:56] Speaker 11: in twenty twenty three and turn it into a sixty
[12:59] Speaker 11: four thirty six majority in just two years to where
[13:03] Speaker 11: we are right now. And that's that's the largest majority
[13:06] Speaker 11: Democratic majority in five decades in Virginia. So we know
[13:10] Speaker 11: what to do with if we continue to do this
[13:11] Speaker 11: work and continue to build on it and then deliver.
[13:13] Speaker 11: Once you get the majority, you can't get the majority
[13:15] Speaker 11: and celebrate right to get the majority, deliver and then
[13:18] Speaker 11: communicate what you deliver.
[13:20] Speaker 3: See, that's to me, I would think I would think
[13:24] Speaker 3: that these progressive billionaires and others out there who are
[13:28] Speaker 3: spending the money will be sitting here saying, speaker Scott,
[13:32] Speaker 3: come in here, explain us to.
[13:34] Speaker 2: Game plan and this and listen.
[13:36] Speaker 3: I've been a highly critical and I ain't got no
[13:38] Speaker 3: problem could keep doing it. I still fundamentally believe that
[13:41] Speaker 3: the biggest problem with a national Democratic party is you
[13:45] Speaker 3: largely have white male Democratic strategists who are not listening
[13:49] Speaker 3: to black people, who are not engaging black posters, black
[13:52] Speaker 3: consultants and talking to people on the ground to understand
[13:57] Speaker 3: how you win.
[13:58] Speaker 2: You cannot win so only.
[14:00] Speaker 3: By appealing to white folks in the suburbs. And you
[14:03] Speaker 3: can't appeal thinking, oh yeah, we got them, we got them.
[14:06] Speaker 3: That's how that's our Democrats in Texas lost Latino the
[14:11] Speaker 3: last election a million African Americans one point one being
[14:15] Speaker 3: that Americans did not vote. And Trump doubled his support
[14:19] Speaker 3: among black men in Texas from fifteen to thirty percent. Actually,
[14:23] Speaker 3: Etchien dropped a new piece the other day. And so
[14:26] Speaker 3: my deal is, if you want to win, you had
[14:30] Speaker 3: better learn how to engage this new black voter because
[14:33] Speaker 3: the black voter in twenty twenty six is not the
[14:36] Speaker 3: same even when Obama ran in two thousand and eight.
[14:39] Speaker 11: Totally different, totally different. And folks have to understand that.
[14:41] Speaker 11: And you know, there is something about you know, that's
[14:45] Speaker 11: why MANDOMI took everybody by surprise. Because we live in
[14:48] Speaker 11: these echo chambers. People got to get outside and go
[14:51] Speaker 11: touch grass, go be a thid more.
[14:52] Speaker 3: Because Joe Madison, god rest his soul, always said you
[14:55] Speaker 3: got to put it where the ghosts can get it.
[14:57] Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's what and that's what folks will do.
[15:00] Speaker 11: And that's why we were able to grow here. And
[15:02] Speaker 11: to Governor Abbi Gail Spamberger's credit, that's why she did
[15:05] Speaker 11: so well. She stayed focused in talking to folks and
[15:08] Speaker 11: she did a lot of outreach and all of those
[15:11] Speaker 11: marginalized communities that folks had thought they had been left behind.
[15:14] Speaker 11: And not only does she do it, then she delivered.
[15:16] Speaker 11: You know, she delivered on things that they cared about.
[15:18] Speaker 2: No.
[15:18] Speaker 11: I know people talk about we legalize adult use cannabis,
[15:22] Speaker 11: but that's not the only thing the black community cared about.
[15:24] Speaker 7: That's one small thing, right. People cared way more.
[15:27] Speaker 11: About public school education, making sure the teachers got the
[15:30] Speaker 11: pay that they leave so we would stop the brain
[15:32] Speaker 11: drain here. So those are the things that we have
[15:34] Speaker 11: delivered on. Making sure that kids who were disadvantaged had
[15:37] Speaker 11: an opportunity to learn and not be hungry. So those
[15:40] Speaker 11: are the things that we focused on. Making sure that
[15:42] Speaker 11: we had access to health care and good health care,
[15:45] Speaker 11: making sure that women got the health care that they needed,
[15:47] Speaker 11: making sure that she started a men's of men's I
[15:50] Speaker 11: ain't gonna say boys to men, men and Boys Commission,
[15:53] Speaker 11: making sure that we understand what's happening. That's keeping men
[15:56] Speaker 11: from of achieving, understanding, the gender gap between attainment of
[16:01] Speaker 11: higher education.
[16:02] Speaker 7: These are all of the things that we're focused on.
[16:03] Speaker 11: We're not just talking about it, We're being about it.
[16:05] Speaker 11: And I think that we continue to do that, We're
[16:06] Speaker 11: gonna do well.
[16:07] Speaker 3: You mentioned Zoran, Mam Donna, and this whole week you've
[16:11] Speaker 3: had this massive freak out. I really think, because the
[16:15] Speaker 3: New York is the media capital.
[16:17] Speaker 7: Of the world, anything that happens I do not I
[16:21] Speaker 7: do not.
[16:21] Speaker 11: Believe that, Oh my god, the democratic part has been taken.
[16:27] Speaker 2: Over by democratic socialists. What I have said is.
[16:31] Speaker 3: What the folks did was they presented an agenda, They
[16:34] Speaker 3: spoke to the people, and they mobilized and organized. And
[16:38] Speaker 3: if you are the so called democrat establishment and you
[16:41] Speaker 3: are mad about what happened, that means that you were lazy,
[16:45] Speaker 3: You weren't paying attention, you were not there building your coalitions.
[16:50] Speaker 3: And frankly, like in boxing, what are they saying, you know,
[16:55] Speaker 3: always protect yourself at all times.
[16:58] Speaker 2: What happened was they got caught slipping.
[17:00] Speaker 7: That's just what I think happened.
[17:02] Speaker 2: And so to now be mad, boy, you didn't do.
[17:05] Speaker 11: What you supposed to do, well, what it should be
[17:07] Speaker 11: is an opportunity for them to be motivated to make
[17:10] Speaker 11: sure that they're doing what they need to do, and
[17:12] Speaker 11: they should. They could learn some things, learn how they communicate,
[17:15] Speaker 11: learn how they message, but not only that, learn how
[17:17] Speaker 11: they mobilize and organize and get people excited. And I
[17:20] Speaker 11: think that's very important.
[17:21] Speaker 3: Because you had some people here who said, don what
[17:24] Speaker 3: you doing?
[17:25] Speaker 7: Yeah, bring it in Roland Martin.
[17:27] Speaker 2: What are you doing? But also why you doing that?
[17:30] Speaker 2: Why are you spending there these churches?
[17:32] Speaker 11: Why are you over in this community, why you in
[17:33] Speaker 11: this Latino community? While you over here this December? We
[17:37] Speaker 11: had to go everywhere. And I think when you did that,
[17:39] Speaker 11: we got a a combination of folks that came together,
[17:45] Speaker 11: uh and they a coalition that was highly motivated to
[17:49] Speaker 11: help deliver, have to deliver what we needed to deliver.
[17:52] Speaker 11: We have a Democrats were a coalition. Were not like Republicans.
[17:56] Speaker 11: We're not a monolift. You know, they fall in line
[17:58] Speaker 11: behind Trump.
[18:00] Speaker 2: I can't tell everybody the.
[18:02] Speaker 11: Republican Party is largely a white party. The reality is,
[18:08] Speaker 11: and the Democrats they have a much larger tent.
[18:10] Speaker 2: You gotta satisfy a lot.
[18:12] Speaker 11: Of different constituencies and you just can't just say, uh,
[18:17] Speaker 11: you know, we're gonna gonna get rid of waste, fraud,
[18:19] Speaker 11: and abuse. Uh you know, Uh, we love God and
[18:24] Speaker 11: we love guns. That that or Howard Dean said, God
[18:27] Speaker 11: gaves guns. We we we we have to we have
[18:30] Speaker 11: to have a much more diverse menu for everything that
[18:34] Speaker 11: we do. We have to give people an opportunity, you know,
[18:36] Speaker 11: Like I tell people, we just passed a two hundred
[18:39] Speaker 11: billion dollar budget last week. That budget has something in
[18:43] Speaker 11: it for everybody. Everybody that believed in us, that got something.
[18:46] Speaker 11: We delivered something that they could believe in and go
[18:48] Speaker 11: home and be excited about.
[18:49] Speaker 7: And that is what you must do.
[18:51] Speaker 11: We don't get to just be a monolith in our
[18:53] Speaker 11: in our party and that and that's great.
[18:55] Speaker 7: That's what makes us. That's what I think makes us
[18:57] Speaker 7: a stronger party.
[18:59] Speaker 3: A couple more questions for you, for me, let you go.
[19:04] Speaker 3: I talked about going everywhere. I'm a I'm a firm believer.
[19:09] Speaker 3: I don't like just looking at end results. I'm also
[19:12] Speaker 3: I'm also about how did it get done? How it
[19:15] Speaker 3: got done? When you so, when you were the minority leader,
[19:18] Speaker 3: did you pull the data and saying.
[19:22] Speaker 2: Where did we lose? How did we lose?
[19:26] Speaker 3: What were the margins, what were the counties, what were
[19:29] Speaker 3: the precincts?
[19:31] Speaker 2: Because that's why I keep begging.
[19:32] Speaker 3: One of your delegates came up to me before I
[19:34] Speaker 3: spoke to earlier today to the Northern Virginian Pastors Association,
[19:39] Speaker 3: and I was telling them. I said, y'all got to
[19:42] Speaker 3: stop doing these big, broad get out the vote thing.
[19:45] Speaker 3: I said, no, you got to have targeted efforts. I said,
[19:48] Speaker 3: but you got to be able to say to the data.
[19:50] Speaker 2: And here's what was crazy.
[19:51] Speaker 3: When I asked them, here, y'all have this town hall.
[19:54] Speaker 3: More than two hundred people were in there. I said,
[19:57] Speaker 3: did you collect the data? Everybody said I didn't. Here
[20:00] Speaker 3: they didn't.
[20:01] Speaker 2: I said, this is part of the problem. You have
[20:04] Speaker 2: a town hall. You don't even know who's here. You
[20:07] Speaker 2: gotta know.
[20:08] Speaker 3: You gotta have names, addresses, phone numbers, emails to understand
[20:11] Speaker 3: how not a moved people.
[20:12] Speaker 11: Well, when I became minority leader, I fired all of
[20:16] Speaker 11: my vendors.
[20:17] Speaker 7: That I fired all of them, all right.
[20:19] Speaker 11: The first thing I do is I want to look
[20:21] Speaker 11: at process, how do we get here? And then I
[20:23] Speaker 11: want to start over with people who are hungry as
[20:25] Speaker 11: I am. Because I knew I only had one shot. Okay,
[20:28] Speaker 11: I was gonna be out of there. We didn't win
[20:29] Speaker 11: the majority, and so I looked at the process. I
[20:32] Speaker 11: looked at precinct by precinc I looked at demographics. I
[20:35] Speaker 11: looked at the data. Every decision we made was data driven,
[20:37] Speaker 11: and we knew who we had lost.
[20:39] Speaker 7: We knew what communities we had lost. We knew what we.
[20:41] Speaker 11: Needed to target, and we knew that the margins were
[20:44] Speaker 11: so thin that we needed to focus on those folks.
[20:47] Speaker 11: We didn't win sixty four seats by having blowouts. We
[20:50] Speaker 11: won by thin margins and a lot of different communities.
[20:53] Speaker 11: We won every single district that was a toss up
[20:57] Speaker 11: district this last cycle, all thirteen toss ups that Donald
[21:01] Speaker 11: Trump had won, we won. That's what we did because
[21:06] Speaker 11: they will raisor thin margins and we want them all.
[21:09] Speaker 3: And we're at the point now on that's how we
[21:11] Speaker 3: got sixty four c And we have to point out
[21:12] Speaker 3: where you win by margins, which which is why I
[21:15] Speaker 3: say every vote absolutely matters. And when you micro target,
[21:20] Speaker 3: you have to micro that's how you actually.
[21:22] Speaker 2: End up winning.
[21:22] Speaker 7: You have to micro target. You have to be intentional.
[21:25] Speaker 11: You cannot be embarrassed to be intentional about telling people, Hey,
[21:28] Speaker 11: I'm trying to get your attention. I'm trying to shake
[21:31] Speaker 11: you so I can talk to you, so I can
[21:33] Speaker 11: get you out of that chair or get you out
[21:35] Speaker 11: of the I think there's a lot of apathy towards
[21:38] Speaker 11: voting now, especially with the younger community. We have to
[21:41] Speaker 11: continue to work hard to communicate with them. I tell
[21:43] Speaker 11: people all the time, it costs Democrats twice as much
[21:46] Speaker 11: money to communicate in these communities that are disenfranchised, that
[21:50] Speaker 11: are apathetic, because we have to really shake them to
[21:53] Speaker 11: get them to listen, understand. And that's what we have
[21:55] Speaker 11: to do, and that's what we're going to continue to do.
[21:56] Speaker 11: Last question, I'm gonna continue to be We're gonna be
[21:58] Speaker 11: continue to win.
[21:59] Speaker 3: Here one point for you make that point, hey, John,
[22:02] Speaker 3: which which camera is his?
[22:03] Speaker 2: Which camera is speakers? Gods? Which right here right.
[22:08] Speaker 11: Here, over here, over here, the camera right there in
[22:12] Speaker 11: the middle. Tell National Democrat and donors that very point
[22:17] Speaker 11: in terms of how they must be spending properly in
[22:21] Speaker 11: black communities if they expect a massive turnout in November.
[22:25] Speaker 11: I mean, it's like anything that we do there is
[22:27] Speaker 11: no return on zero investment. We have to make huge
[22:30] Speaker 11: investments to get the returns that we need to win
[22:33] Speaker 11: in these elections, and we have to be very intentional
[22:36] Speaker 11: and direct with the voters that we want to win over.
[22:39] Speaker 11: If we don't do that and take them for granted,
[22:41] Speaker 11: they will stay home. We're not losing elections because we
[22:44] Speaker 11: don't have the message. I'm tired of hearing people say
[22:46] Speaker 11: that we're not losing elections because we don't have the ideas.
[22:50] Speaker 11: We're losing elections because we're not making the investments in
[22:52] Speaker 11: communities where they believe that we actually care about improving
[22:56] Speaker 11: their lives and the lives.
[22:57] Speaker 7: Of their children. That is why, all right, all right,
[23:00] Speaker 7: I appreciate it. Sick by Alpha Agi right.
[23:03] Speaker 3: Here, So I'll Tolrace Sterling, We'll mention the other two.
[23:10] Speaker 11: We'll see.
[23:10] Speaker 3: All right, folks, if you want to see all of
[23:12] Speaker 3: our interviews from the Knights, but go to our YouTube
[23:15] Speaker 3: channel and check it all out. Let's talk about don
[23:17] Speaker 3: Trump Justice Department continue to attempt to suppress votes again.
[23:21] Speaker 3: It is their continuation war on Black America. The DOJ
[23:24] Speaker 3: has sent letters to election officials in all fifty states
[23:26] Speaker 3: of the District of Columbia warning them that they could
[23:29] Speaker 3: face criminal prosecution for a long na citisst to vote even.
[23:31] Speaker 2: Though they already can vote.
[23:34] Speaker 3: Letters were signed by the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights,
[23:37] Speaker 3: car Meet Dylan, who is pathetic give states five days
[23:41] Speaker 3: to explain how they will comply with federal voter eligibility
[23:44] Speaker 3: laws and ensure their voter lists are accurate. Dylan announced
[23:47] Speaker 3: on social media that the dj will deploy federal election
[23:50] Speaker 3: monitors to fifteen jurisdictions across six states during the twenty
[23:53] Speaker 3: twenty six primary season.
[23:54] Speaker 2: This is what she had to say.
[23:57] Speaker 12: In twenty twenty six in this upcoming primary season. The
[24:01] Speaker 12: United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, as it
[24:04] Speaker 12: has done for decades, is this year sending election monitors
[24:08] Speaker 12: into fifteen different jurisdictions in six states. And those states
[24:13] Speaker 12: are Arizona, Michigan, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Virginia. And
[24:20] Speaker 12: we're sending the monitors into cities.
[24:22] Speaker 3: Gentlemen, now, Robert Wiener, the director for the Laws Community
[24:25] Speaker 3: for Civil Rights under Law Voting Rights Project, not only Campbell,
[24:28] Speaker 3: President's CEO of the National Coalition on Black Cimy Participation,
[24:31] Speaker 3: Glad to have both of you here. I'm gonna start
[24:34] Speaker 3: with you, Robert Naziness is voting is non existent. I mean,
[24:43] Speaker 3: and this is the latest example of these people just
[24:46] Speaker 3: trying to create nonsense. These states already know this. These
[24:49] Speaker 3: states run elections all the time. But this is just
[24:53] Speaker 3: more bs coming from this administration.
[25:00] Speaker 1: Question about it.
[25:01] Speaker 13: This is the administration trying to intimidate public officials who
[25:08] Speaker 13: were responsible for voting. This is the administration trying to
[25:13] Speaker 13: undermine public confidence in the integrity of our elections. In fact,
[25:21] Speaker 13: voting is safe in this country. Our electoral systems have integrity.
[25:27] Speaker 13: But this president wants to create chaos and lack of confidence,
[25:34] Speaker 13: and he wants to use the chaos that he creates
[25:38] Speaker 13: to justify setting aside the results of elections that he
[25:46] Speaker 13: doesn't like.
[25:49] Speaker 3: Melanie, I remember when Fox News was whinding complaining about
[25:52] Speaker 3: members of the New Black Panther Party at a couple
[25:55] Speaker 3: of polling bulls in Philadelphia. They were actually black polling bulls.
[26:00] Speaker 3: Here is as Rob said, it is absolutely voter intimidation.
[26:03] Speaker 3: That is their aim, and they want to scare people
[26:07] Speaker 3: from showing up.
[26:10] Speaker 14: Almost definitely, Roland and the and the reality is this
[26:14] Speaker 14: is just.
[26:15] Speaker 4: The beginning of the beginning of the chaos.
[26:19] Speaker 14: One of the things that we know that was tested
[26:22] Speaker 14: was what they did in Georgia when they went into
[26:25] Speaker 14: Fulton County and snatched ballots. The idea that they're going
[26:29] Speaker 14: to use ice, the idea they're going to use every weapon.
[26:33] Speaker 4: They can, is something we just need to be prepared for.
[26:36] Speaker 4: And the question is how how to make sure that
[26:39] Speaker 4: we're prepared for. It's very different.
[26:41] Speaker 14: You have a federal government using legal uh not legal,
[26:47] Speaker 14: but using law enforcement, federal law enforcement agencies to actually
[26:53] Speaker 14: try to hijack this election.
[26:55] Speaker 4: So the idea that DJ is going to send.
[26:57] Speaker 14: Monitors is just another tool that they use using against it,
[27:00] Speaker 14: against the idea of free and fair elections. And so
[27:04] Speaker 14: we have to try to do all we can to
[27:07] Speaker 14: fight back.
[27:08] Speaker 4: I know the.
[27:08] Speaker 14: Lawyer's Committee love you all so very much, and the
[27:11] Speaker 14: legal organizations are doing all that they can, but we
[27:13] Speaker 14: also have to have our own front line, if you will, in.
[27:17] Speaker 4: These polling places. Uh.
[27:19] Speaker 14: They know that people who are non citizens aren't voting,
[27:23] Speaker 14: but that's not the point. The point is that, as
[27:25] Speaker 14: we mentioned, is intimidation to get folks not to show up.
[27:29] Speaker 14: The point is what they did with the Haitian community
[27:31] Speaker 14: and going after the Haitian community and their ideas they
[27:35] Speaker 14: can shave off. I was listening to your interview just
[27:39] Speaker 14: if you you know, right before this where the reality is,
[27:42] Speaker 14: elections are one what on the margins you get enough
[27:47] Speaker 14: of shaving away, of fear and intimidation, people just won't
[27:52] Speaker 14: even show up at all for fear that they can
[27:55] Speaker 14: run into, uh, you know, law enforcement and harassment or
[28:00] Speaker 14: or even being.
[28:02] Speaker 4: Jailed for no reason.
[28:03] Speaker 14: So we've got a big fight ahead. But the enemy
[28:07] Speaker 14: show in the hand, we have to be prepared.
[28:09] Speaker 3: For it absolutely. And again, look, voters have rights. And
[28:17] Speaker 3: I've said this here Robert that you know they're calling
[28:21] Speaker 3: for these Republicans to be monitors. Well, guess what, Progressives
[28:25] Speaker 3: and independence and others got a right to have election
[28:28] Speaker 3: monitors too.
[28:31] Speaker 13: We got to show up. You know, just the fact
[28:34] Speaker 13: of monitors. It would not be troubling by itself. We
[28:39] Speaker 13: had monitors when I was in the Justice Department, and
[28:43] Speaker 13: we monitored eight hundred communities in twenty twenty four. But
[28:48] Speaker 13: when you put it in the context of the threats
[28:52] Speaker 13: to voting officials, when you put it in the context
[28:55] Speaker 13: of threats to cut off funds to jurisdictions, that don't
[29:02] Speaker 13: toe the line, then you have to say, we have
[29:06] Speaker 13: to look at monitoring very closely, and we have to
[29:11] Speaker 13: make sure that it is done properly and partially.
[29:18] Speaker 1: That it has done well.
[29:21] Speaker 13: And you know, they're really the problem with elections in
[29:26] Speaker 13: this country is not who is voting. The problem is
[29:32] Speaker 13: who isn't and that's what we should be devoting time
[29:37] Speaker 13: to to make sure that everybody who is eligible is
[29:42] Speaker 13: registered and that they get out and they vote.
[29:47] Speaker 3: Melanie, we made it perfectly clear. If you want to
[29:49] Speaker 3: see this nonsense in the only way to shut it down.
[29:53] Speaker 2: Is at the ballot box.
[29:54] Speaker 3: That is to overwhelm ballot boxes nationwide.
[30:00] Speaker 4: And that's it. We have to overperform in this election.
[30:03] Speaker 14: We have to turn out in presidential election numbers, if
[30:06] Speaker 14: you will. And that's the that's the work, that's the
[30:09] Speaker 14: hard work between now and when early voting starts, and
[30:13] Speaker 14: assume that we have to also have our democracy called defenders.
[30:18] Speaker 4: I know that faith community is doing. I know you
[30:20] Speaker 4: guys are doing. We all are working together. We know
[30:23] Speaker 4: all the things that have been happening looking at you know.
[30:26] Speaker 14: You know I'm a Commonwealth resident in Virginia, so we
[30:29] Speaker 14: know we have to do what we need to do.
[30:31] Speaker 4: Uh, but whatever, we can expect more.
[30:36] Speaker 14: And I'm with you that monitors normally wouldn't be a problem,
[30:39] Speaker 14: but if you're monitoring to intimidate people, that is what
[30:42] Speaker 14: you're coming in there to do. And if you and
[30:44] Speaker 14: if they show up with ICE agents, if they show
[30:47] Speaker 14: up with you FBI, all these things that they have
[30:50] Speaker 14: at their disposal. Law of the rule of law is
[30:53] Speaker 14: not something that they are interested in. It is to
[30:56] Speaker 14: use their ability to control legal law enforcement for the
[31:02] Speaker 14: purposes of intimidation. And we've lived a year and a
[31:05] Speaker 14: half of this now and even people losing their lives.
[31:09] Speaker 14: So we have to be prepared for that at that
[31:11] Speaker 14: ballot box and make sure that we have as many
[31:14] Speaker 14: folks there as possible to be on the front line
[31:18] Speaker 14: of protecting.
[31:19] Speaker 4: Folks right to vote and use all the needs.
[31:22] Speaker 14: It's still trying to mess with early mailing the ballots,
[31:26] Speaker 14: and so there is an attempt to control who gets
[31:30] Speaker 14: the vote, and so we know it, and we're gonna
[31:33] Speaker 14: have to keep fighting for it.
[31:34] Speaker 4: And the only way you're right that we're going to
[31:36] Speaker 4: be able.
[31:37] Speaker 14: To change it is to change who controls those power levels.
[31:41] Speaker 3: Indeed, we're going to Melan the Camon. We appreciate it.
[31:44] Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Thank you.
[31:46] Speaker 3: All right, folks, I want to bring in my panel
[31:49] Speaker 3: right now talk about this here and of course a
[31:52] Speaker 3: lots when we're discussing over the next couple of hours.
[31:56] Speaker 3: Joining us on today's show, rob Bertillo, Robert Tello. He
[32:01] Speaker 3: is out of Atlanta Civil Wris's attorney, Patilla Law Group.
[32:05] Speaker 3: We have Record Corrolla's president's CEO, Fair Election Center out
[32:08] Speaker 3: of Washington, d C. Also George Cheney Joey Strategies out
[32:12] Speaker 3: of DCS. We'll let him have all three of you here.
[32:15] Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with you, Robert Trump. Is really they've
[32:18] Speaker 3: been going after Fulton County. They got denied, trying to
[32:21] Speaker 3: get the addresses in the names of the people who
[32:23] Speaker 3: work there. I mean, this idiot is just still just
[32:27] Speaker 3: his butt hurt because Joe Biden kicked his butt in
[32:29] Speaker 3: twenty twenty and he lost Georgia. He keeps yelling it's rigged.
[32:33] Speaker 3: There's no evidence whatsoever. And so you take this, you
[32:36] Speaker 3: take them threatening to withhold terrorism funds from states who
[32:41] Speaker 3: don't do what they want to do. I mean, this
[32:43] Speaker 3: is when talking about rigg elections, what Donald Trump, Republican's
[32:46] Speaker 3: trying to do. They're trying to rig the November election
[32:49] Speaker 3: so Republicans can win.
[32:52] Speaker 6: You know the best thing about Donald Trump is he
[32:54] Speaker 6: tells you exactly what he's doing whenever he accuses of
[32:57] Speaker 6: someone else, so something that's exactly what he's doing. Says,
[33:00] Speaker 6: we stole the twenty twenty election. That meant he was
[33:02] Speaker 6: planning on stealing the twenty twenty four election, the twenty
[33:04] Speaker 6: twenty sixty election, and the twenty twenty eight election. When
[33:07] Speaker 6: he says someone else is corrupt, Mayor, who's you talked
[33:09] Speaker 6: about Hunter Biden? He has been hundreds of billions of
[33:13] Speaker 6: dollars more corrupt than Hunter Biden could have ever imagined
[33:16] Speaker 6: being corrupt with his barisma or his paintings, et cetera.
[33:19] Speaker 6: And what we know right now is when President Trump
[33:21] Speaker 6: talks about this vis election and she's our election is
[33:23] Speaker 6: not being fair, not being secure, how we have to
[33:25] Speaker 6: pass to save at what he is actually saying is
[33:28] Speaker 6: I have every intention of rigging this coming up. I'm
[33:31] Speaker 6: going to use every lever of power possible to steal
[33:34] Speaker 6: this election. He's making very clear that he says it
[33:37] Speaker 6: to Republicans all the time. We have to pass to
[33:39] Speaker 6: save at above any other piece of legislation, because if
[33:42] Speaker 6: we do not have it, I will be impeached. You
[33:44] Speaker 6: will be put out of power. If we allow the
[33:46] Speaker 6: American people to have an actual voice in our democratic system,
[33:49] Speaker 6: if they're actually allowed to express their concerns and vote
[33:51] Speaker 6: for the candidates of their choice, we will lose. So
[33:54] Speaker 6: we need to understand the lack of outrage nationally is
[33:58] Speaker 6: the most concerning deafening part. There's a reason when Donald
[34:02] Speaker 6: Trump got into office, the first thing he did was
[34:03] Speaker 6: go after social media companies. He had Zuckerberg, he had
[34:06] Speaker 6: all the big social media people, Elon Musk add inauguration.
[34:10] Speaker 6: Then he went after network television. He went up after
[34:12] Speaker 6: the newspapers to install his own MAGA loyalists, and every
[34:15] Speaker 6: part of media. The reason for this is you have
[34:18] Speaker 6: more people spending this summer debating to spend that is
[34:21] Speaker 6: challenge than talking about whether or not we will have
[34:23] Speaker 6: the right to vote come this fall. And until we
[34:25] Speaker 6: can break through the people and help them to understand
[34:28] Speaker 6: the importance and gravity of what's coming up, what is
[34:30] Speaker 6: happening right now, we're not going to be able to
[34:32] Speaker 6: break through. And the first place we have to go
[34:33] Speaker 6: to all these MAGA celebrities who decided to perform for
[34:36] Speaker 6: President Trump at America two fifty and say, well, if
[34:39] Speaker 6: you're going to be taking that check from President Trump,
[34:42] Speaker 6: I need you talking about voting rats the remainder of
[34:44] Speaker 6: the year. Gotta make your money, however that is, but
[34:46] Speaker 6: I want you going out here and using that money
[34:48] Speaker 6: to make sure we are informing our people in turning
[34:50] Speaker 6: out the vote for November.
[34:53] Speaker 2: Rebecca.
[34:55] Speaker 5: States already doing their constitutional role. Their constitutional role is
[34:59] Speaker 5: to make sure that they are correctly administering state and
[35:02] Speaker 5: local elections. They're correctly administering federal elections that happen within
[35:07] Speaker 5: state borders. States are able to properly vet, to determine
[35:11] Speaker 5: to make sure that those who are registering the vote,
[35:14] Speaker 5: those who are casting their ballot are indeed eligible to
[35:17] Speaker 5: register the vote in are eligible to access the ballot box.
[35:22] Speaker 5: The reason why we see this particular president and the
[35:25] Speaker 5: reason why we're seeing this puppet Department of Justice that
[35:29] Speaker 5: has virtually cleaned out all of its voting rights attorneys
[35:32] Speaker 5: who have been there for decades, who are steeped in
[35:34] Speaker 5: constitutional law and steeped in voting rights in election law,
[35:38] Speaker 5: in this country. The reason why the Department of Justice
[35:42] Speaker 5: fired all of those people, the reason why the administration
[35:46] Speaker 5: is held bid and making sure that voters who are
[35:48] Speaker 5: eligible aren't turning out, is because they know that their
[35:51] Speaker 5: policies aren't popular. The point is this is that anyone
[35:56] Speaker 5: in this country that is eligible to vote should be
[35:59] Speaker 5: able to regis or the vote and cast their ballot
[36:01] Speaker 5: and for their ballot to account. And unfortunately this president
[36:04] Speaker 5: doesn't want any of those things to happen.
[36:07] Speaker 15: Joy That's absolutely right. The other thing I think that
[36:13] Speaker 15: is clear is that we have to make sure our
[36:16] Speaker 15: groups are ready. So I want to make sure that
[36:20] Speaker 15: our civil rights organizations, our fraternities, sororities, whomever, that we're
[36:25] Speaker 15: working in concerts with other groups who are also being impacted.
[36:30] Speaker 15: Are we educating our voters? Are we registering voters? Are
[36:35] Speaker 15: we making sure people are working as poll workers? Are
[36:38] Speaker 15: we doing all of that? Are we giving money such
[36:41] Speaker 15: that we can have ads, social media ads, TV ads,
[36:46] Speaker 15: whatever way we need to do it. Are we buying
[36:49] Speaker 15: time during Love Island and other BS television that we watch.
[36:54] Speaker 15: I was doing work actually for Melanie, and we were
[36:57] Speaker 15: doing some work where we were pulling up ratings. African
[37:01] Speaker 15: Americans spend more than forty percent of their child watching TV.
[37:05] Speaker 15: This is more than any other group. So are we
[37:09] Speaker 15: taking those opportunities. We can have a debate about whether
[37:12] Speaker 15: that is a good thing, but are we taking our
[37:15] Speaker 15: time and saying we're going where the voters are and
[37:19] Speaker 15: we're going to be putting our resources. I feel like
[37:21] Speaker 15: we're talking a lot and we know what needs to
[37:25] Speaker 15: be done. But just like they did in Virginia, they
[37:28] Speaker 15: didn't just talk about it, they actually did it. They
[37:33] Speaker 15: fired anyone they needed to fire, they hired who they
[37:36] Speaker 15: needed to hire. They actually went forth and implemented it.
[37:39] Speaker 15: One of the things this administration is so good at
[37:42] Speaker 15: is distracting everyone to make you think there's nothing you
[37:45] Speaker 15: can do, so you don't do the things that you
[37:47] Speaker 15: can do. We have to focus. We cannot do everything,
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[38:02] Speaker 2: Roland?
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[42:09] Speaker 7: Mark Until.
[42:14] Speaker 3: Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled that guardianship records for ineligible voters
[42:18] Speaker 3: remain confidential. The case has been in the court since
[42:20] Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. It steals from attempts by conservatives for
[42:24] Speaker 3: years to overturn President Joe Biden's victory in Wisconsin over
[42:28] Speaker 3: the twice in Peach criminally convicted fellam in chief that
[42:31] Speaker 3: con man Donald Trump. The Wisconsin Voter Alliance, a conservative
[42:34] Speaker 3: activist group, claims the number of people in eligible to
[42:37] Speaker 3: vote doesn't match the count on Wisconsin's voter registration list.
[42:41] Speaker 3: The organization wants counties to release the records when someone
[42:44] Speaker 3: was deemed an eligible to vote, arguing those records are public.
[42:48] Speaker 3: An attorney for Walworth County says they cannot do that
[42:51] Speaker 3: without releasing names and addresses of those people. Supreme Court agreed,
[42:55] Speaker 3: ruling that the records are private and do not need
[42:57] Speaker 3: to be released all right. So many polls indicate that
[43:01] Speaker 3: millions of people are frustrated with politics and question the
[43:04] Speaker 3: value of voting. In fact, if you look at this
[43:07] Speaker 3: recent Jubilee conversation, Governor Wes Moore debated a group of
[43:11] Speaker 3: twenty non voters. However, the conversation lacks a focus on solutions.
[43:16] Speaker 3: A comprehensive multiracial study of the disaffected DOC electorate shows
[43:19] Speaker 3: that they are reachable. These individuals are more likely to
[43:22] Speaker 3: take action when they feel a sense of belonging and
[43:26] Speaker 3: can see the tangible impact of their efforts. So Jordan Strategies,
[43:30] Speaker 3: Aerial Research Partners and Richard Sir Frank discover that thirty
[43:34] Speaker 3: five percent of the US electorate, approximately eighty five million
[43:37] Speaker 3: people are considered disaffected, characterized by high levels of disillusionment
[43:42] Speaker 3: and low levels of trust in government and politics. Lead
[43:45] Speaker 3: research aboutor Katrina Gamble, the CEO of sold Drawing Strategies,
[43:49] Speaker 3: joins us right now, I'm glad to have you here, Katrina.
[43:53] Speaker 3: One of things that I have always said when I
[43:57] Speaker 3: travel this country in and I come in the face
[44:01] Speaker 3: with a lot of people, folks, high income, mental income,
[44:06] Speaker 3: low income.
[44:08] Speaker 2: People who know politics who don't.
[44:10] Speaker 3: And what I often get from people is is that
[44:13] Speaker 3: they say, I don't.
[44:14] Speaker 2: Know what you do. I don't think it matters.
[44:16] Speaker 3: And what I'm often trying to do is connecting the dots,
[44:20] Speaker 3: getting them to understand on micro level, how this one
[44:24] Speaker 3: thing you care about, actually there's a line that's local,
[44:30] Speaker 3: that city, that school district, that's county, that state, and
[44:34] Speaker 3: that's federal. Give us a sense of what you discovered.
[44:37] Speaker 3: Are doing this study right?
[44:40] Speaker 5: Thanks for having me Roland, and absolutely we want to understand,
[44:45] Speaker 5: as several of your previous speakers said, how do we
[44:48] Speaker 5: get the people who aren't voting voting? And we all
[44:52] Speaker 5: understand that people are frustrated with elections and politics and
[44:55] Speaker 5: even government right now. And what our research was focused
[44:59] Speaker 5: on underst standing is not just are they frustrated, but
[45:03] Speaker 5: who are these people?
[45:04] Speaker 15: First?
[45:05] Speaker 5: And second, what are the pathways to actually bring them
[45:08] Speaker 5: back into the voting and civic engagement process. And one
[45:13] Speaker 5: of the key things that we found is that, as
[45:16] Speaker 5: you said at the top, that this is nearly thirty
[45:19] Speaker 5: five percent of the electorate is feeling this way, and
[45:22] Speaker 5: that this feeling of disaffection is grounded in real experiences
[45:27] Speaker 5: of distrust and frustration with elections and politics. And so
[45:32] Speaker 5: the solution to bringing people back in is going to
[45:36] Speaker 5: require something more than just simply quick message testing and
[45:41] Speaker 5: things like that.
[45:44] Speaker 3: So how do we then reach them the way it
[45:48] Speaker 3: should do it. One of the things that I have
[45:51] Speaker 3: long called for is I call it citizenship education, training workshops, teachings,
[45:56] Speaker 3: things along those lines, in person and virtual, and then
[46:00] Speaker 3: I say listen.
[46:01] Speaker 2: They should be on a weekly basis.
[46:03] Speaker 3: There should be every especially in southern states, every single
[46:06] Speaker 3: week a church or community group should be having these sessions.
[46:10] Speaker 3: Gary Chambers does this in Louisiana, teaching people the basics
[46:15] Speaker 3: of politics.
[46:16] Speaker 2: I call it city hall.
[46:17] Speaker 3: One on one, school board, one on one, county government,
[46:20] Speaker 3: one on one, state government, one on one, federal government
[46:22] Speaker 3: one on one. What do the people say? How they
[46:26] Speaker 3: want to be communicated with and reached?
[46:29] Speaker 5: Right? So, first, there's two things I want to emphasize
[46:32] Speaker 5: to reach these people who have to know who they are.
[46:34] Speaker 5: And one of the things that we found in our
[46:36] Speaker 5: research is that the people who are disaffected, not surprisingly,
[46:40] Speaker 5: they are majority young, over fifty two percent of them
[46:44] Speaker 5: are millennials. In gen z these are people who have
[46:47] Speaker 5: lower levels of resources in terms of income and education.
[46:51] Speaker 5: So you could imagine these are the people who are
[46:53] Speaker 5: economically strained right now. They're struggling, and so we need
[46:58] Speaker 5: to know who the people are we're trying to reach first.
[47:00] Speaker 5: And second, the research found that even though these people
[47:03] Speaker 5: are disaffected and frustrated with government and politics, there are
[47:07] Speaker 5: some clear pathways to your point about local elections. Even
[47:11] Speaker 5: though they don't trust federal government, they trust the state
[47:15] Speaker 5: government a little bit more. The place that we found
[47:17] Speaker 5: where people trust the government the most is local elections.
[47:20] Speaker 5: So one of the things we say is start with
[47:22] Speaker 5: conversations about local politics. I think that's a good way
[47:25] Speaker 5: to start building trust and engaging people. And the biggest
[47:28] Speaker 5: thing we've found is that the biggest predictor of this
[47:32] Speaker 5: segment of folks to participate in elections is increasing their
[47:36] Speaker 5: sense of belonging, making sure that they are connected to organizations,
[47:41] Speaker 5: that they are connected to people, that they are being
[47:45] Speaker 5: part they are connected to organizations within their community. We
[47:49] Speaker 5: actually found that if people had a higher sense of belonging,
[47:53] Speaker 5: they were two and a half percent more likely to
[47:56] Speaker 5: say that they would vote in the twenty twenty six
[47:58] Speaker 5: elections if they didn't have any sense of belonging.
[48:04] Speaker 3: You have here here we go to my iPad identify
[48:08] Speaker 3: messengers who share working class experiences and lean into working
[48:13] Speaker 3: class values that address the immediate struggles this affected face.
[48:18] Speaker 3: Bishop William Barbering one of the things that he always
[48:21] Speaker 3: does and emphasizes is that he wants affected voices speaking
[48:27] Speaker 3: when they have events, the poor people's campaign repairs of
[48:30] Speaker 3: the breach. They don't want just they don't want entertainers,
[48:34] Speaker 3: they don't want the politicians. They don't want those folks speaking.
[48:38] Speaker 3: They want affected people speaking and explaining what they're dealing with.
[48:44] Speaker 3: They want them to be centered. Is that what you're
[48:47] Speaker 3: talking about here too?
[48:49] Speaker 2: Yes?
[48:49] Speaker 5: Absolutely. We asked a question about who do you listen
[48:53] Speaker 5: to about elections and politics and people for very clearly
[48:58] Speaker 5: they name two things, people like my self. Right, So
[49:01] Speaker 5: we already said that these are working class people, so
[49:05] Speaker 5: working class people and their friends and family, so it
[49:08] Speaker 5: has to be people that they trust. And then we
[49:10] Speaker 5: asked a question of who do you feel most connected to,
[49:13] Speaker 5: and they said that they feel connected to working class
[49:17] Speaker 5: people and people like themselves. And so the data shows
[49:21] Speaker 5: that if you are trying to reach people who, for
[49:24] Speaker 5: good reasons, feel very distrustful of the political industry. The
[49:29] Speaker 5: people who you need to be engaging in rebuilding that
[49:32] Speaker 5: trust are, like you said, the people who are affected
[49:36] Speaker 5: so other working class people, and you have to be
[49:39] Speaker 5: actually speaking to the things that are front and center
[49:43] Speaker 5: for them, which for this group of people, it really
[49:45] Speaker 5: is the financial strain that folks are feeling in this moment. Rebecca, Katrina,
[49:59] Speaker 5: thank you so much for me on the show tonight.
[50:01] Speaker 5: So here's my question with this study, with this research
[50:06] Speaker 5: that you're releasing, what's the feedback that you're getting from it.
[50:10] Speaker 5: Are you hearing from politicals, are you hearing from parties?
[50:13] Speaker 5: Are you hearing from organizations? Are people generally receptive? Do
[50:17] Speaker 5: they understand the importance of this type of research. Yes,
[50:22] Speaker 5: We've presented this research at a couple of different places
[50:25] Speaker 5: since it's been released, and I'll tell you most people
[50:28] Speaker 5: immediately get it and they understand the impact of the research.
[50:32] Speaker 5: They think it makes sense. It's not surprising in this
[50:35] Speaker 5: moment where people are feeling deeply isolated and frustrated that
[50:40] Speaker 5: the solution to bring people back in is to engage
[50:44] Speaker 5: in community building, trust building in small spaces, to bring
[50:49] Speaker 5: people back into a process that they feel like has
[50:52] Speaker 5: failed them as election cycle after election cycle, so people
[50:56] Speaker 5: understand it. The biggest thing that we're hearing from folks
[50:59] Speaker 5: is that how do we shift the work that we've
[51:03] Speaker 5: previously been doing that is like super transactional dropping into
[51:08] Speaker 5: black communities and communities at the last minute with a
[51:10] Speaker 5: quick ass to vote. How do we get funders and
[51:13] Speaker 5: other folks who are invested in campaigns to shift their
[51:16] Speaker 5: strategy to actually investing in the type of work that
[51:19] Speaker 5: allows organizations to go in and do the community building
[51:22] Speaker 5: that Roland was mentioning and building that type of trust
[51:26] Speaker 5: to then move people to the ask about voting. That's
[51:29] Speaker 5: you have to actually invest more deeply in the process
[51:32] Speaker 5: if we want to bring those people who are already
[51:34] Speaker 5: on the margins back into the process.
[51:36] Speaker 15: Joy, did you all do anything that kind of did
[51:41] Speaker 15: a cross section of socioeconomic status for each of the
[51:43] Speaker 15: people that you were researching and talking to, So, like,
[51:48] Speaker 15: you know, do people at you know, different economic strata,
[51:52] Speaker 15: do they have different young people, do they respond differently?
[51:55] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[51:56] Speaker 5: So the biggest thing that I think was different about
[51:59] Speaker 5: our research project that I'll name is that this research
[52:03] Speaker 5: project was over a four thousand person sample, and we
[52:06] Speaker 5: intentionally had a thousand person sample from each of the
[52:10] Speaker 5: major racial ethnic groups, White, Black, Latino, Asian American, So
[52:14] Speaker 5: we didn't do just a simple over sample of people
[52:18] Speaker 5: of color because we wanted to deeply understand how different
[52:21] Speaker 5: communities are experiencing frustration and their experience with democracy in
[52:25] Speaker 5: this moment. And the interesting thing that we found is
[52:28] Speaker 5: that this sense of disaffection, it is a sentiment that
[52:33] Speaker 5: exists across race, so black, White, Asian American, Latinos, this
[52:38] Speaker 5: is a major problem regardless of race. But what we
[52:41] Speaker 5: did find to your question, Joy, is that, yes, this
[52:44] Speaker 5: is something that is especially prominent among young people. Over
[52:49] Speaker 5: thirty something percent of millennials are feeling this sense of
[52:54] Speaker 5: deep distrust and frustration with politics, and a large segment
[52:59] Speaker 5: of gen z are feeling that same way.
[53:02] Speaker 19: Okay, but before I go to Robert and it was
[53:03] Speaker 19: regardless of no go ahead, it was regardless of their
[53:08] Speaker 19: socioeconomic status, because I think that's a good point, like
[53:12] Speaker 19: young people regardless of socioeconomic status or did you all
[53:15] Speaker 19: measure that?
[53:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, we did.
[53:18] Speaker 5: The disaffected electric also tend to be more working class.
[53:22] Speaker 5: Over thirty percent of the folks who fall into that
[53:25] Speaker 5: thirty five percent segment are actually people who make incomes
[53:29] Speaker 5: less than thirty thousand dollars. So the people that we're
[53:31] Speaker 5: talking about, they're younger, and there are people who are
[53:34] Speaker 5: struggling financially.
[53:37] Speaker 3: In terms of to that particular point, when you talk
[53:41] Speaker 3: about disaffected and did you ask them or do they
[53:48] Speaker 3: articulate where they are getting their information from or are
[53:54] Speaker 3: they also out of the information loop.
[53:59] Speaker 5: Most of them are getting their information from social media,
[54:03] Speaker 5: especially young people are especially getting When we ask questions
[54:07] Speaker 5: about where you're getting your news, the vast majority are
[54:10] Speaker 5: getting their information from social media channels. That's where people
[54:14] Speaker 5: are getting their information. And to this point, most of
[54:18] Speaker 5: them do not trust most news sources, and so they're
[54:24] Speaker 5: getting their information from the channels that they follow and
[54:26] Speaker 5: the people that they trust, and whatever information is moving
[54:29] Speaker 5: through those vehicles, so television and some of the other newspapers,
[54:35] Speaker 5: especially for young people, very few of them said that
[54:38] Speaker 5: they are getting their information from those particular news sources.
[54:41] Speaker 6: Robert, thank you so much for all the work that
[54:44] Speaker 6: you're doing, and it reminded me of the work about
[54:47] Speaker 6: thirty years ago the political philosopher out of Atlanta, Andre
[54:51] Speaker 6: Benjamin and here's someone to work. Get up, get out
[54:53] Speaker 6: where he said, they're telling me to get out and vote?
[54:55] Speaker 6: Why and nobody running black but Cracker? So why I
[54:58] Speaker 6: got a register? I can think of some other stuff
[54:59] Speaker 6: to do. And that articulated the nacient concerns of the
[55:02] Speaker 6: diseffected youth of the nineties, particularly of African American males,
[55:06] Speaker 6: about the transactional nature of voting, the idea that whether
[55:10] Speaker 6: you vote or not, you're going to have a similar outcome,
[55:12] Speaker 6: So why bother doing so? What emphasis do you think
[55:16] Speaker 6: the current political parties need to place on actually providing
[55:19] Speaker 6: a articuable road map to young people to motivate them
[55:22] Speaker 6: to vote. It's hard to say, well, if you vote
[55:24] Speaker 6: now in twenty twenty six, then maybe in twenty twenty
[55:27] Speaker 6: eight you can vote again, and then maybe by twenty
[55:30] Speaker 6: thirty we can get something done. It's difficult to motivate
[55:33] Speaker 6: people of that when they want immediate change and to
[55:37] Speaker 6: handling their current concerns because the very few people on
[55:39] Speaker 6: the national level actually can having conversations about the needs
[55:43] Speaker 6: of gen Z and younger voters in particular, But we
[55:46] Speaker 6: expect them to turn out at these like Obama twenty
[55:49] Speaker 6: twelve numbers.
[55:50] Speaker 5: To vote absolutely, and I'm actually I really appreciate you
[55:55] Speaker 5: naming the other this idea of voting specifically, because that
[56:00] Speaker 5: was one of the other really big findings we found
[56:02] Speaker 5: in this research. We went into it assuming that people
[56:05] Speaker 5: who feel disaffected that they are apathetic, and that they
[56:09] Speaker 5: mostly have checked out of elections and politics altogether. And
[56:12] Speaker 5: what we actually found is on a number of other
[56:14] Speaker 5: measures of civic participation that they are as as active
[56:18] Speaker 5: as people who are not disaffected. So they are actually
[56:22] Speaker 5: more likely to say that they were going to sign
[56:24] Speaker 5: a petition or participate in a boycott in the last
[56:27] Speaker 5: twelve months than people who are not disaffected. The thing
[56:29] Speaker 5: that they're not doing is voting. And so the reason
[56:32] Speaker 5: why they're not voting is because, and we did this
[56:34] Speaker 5: in our focus groups we talk to them, is that
[56:36] Speaker 5: they feel like that it doesn't matter. So they're making
[56:39] Speaker 5: choices to do the things that they believe could actually
[56:42] Speaker 5: affect change. And some of those things are donating to
[56:46] Speaker 5: mutual aid and like working directly with people in their communities,
[56:51] Speaker 5: joining boycotts and things like that. And so if we
[56:54] Speaker 5: are going to do the work of bringing these folks
[56:56] Speaker 5: back into the actual action of voting. There are several
[57:01] Speaker 5: things that people are saying they need. They want politicians
[57:04] Speaker 5: to actually deliver on their promises. A lot of them
[57:06] Speaker 5: articulated that I showed up and I voted, and people
[57:09] Speaker 5: said they were going to do all these things, and
[57:11] Speaker 5: then nothing happened, and so I chose to focus on
[57:14] Speaker 5: my family and take care of my community. So we
[57:17] Speaker 5: need people to actually deliver on the things that they're promising,
[57:21] Speaker 5: and we need they want to make sure that they
[57:24] Speaker 5: feel seen. A lot of the people that we talked
[57:26] Speaker 5: to in the focus group said things like they're there
[57:29] Speaker 5: making decisions and they have no idea what it's like
[57:31] Speaker 5: to live paycheck to paycheck, and so they're looking for
[57:34] Speaker 5: people who can understand their experience and are actually delivering
[57:38] Speaker 5: on the promises that they make when they're running for office.
[57:41] Speaker 3: See when I hear all of that and I get it,
[57:45] Speaker 3: I totally understand it. And this is where again I
[57:50] Speaker 3: believe lack of political understanding.
[57:58] Speaker 2: Is part of the issue.
[58:01] Speaker 3: For years, I remember, I mean, I'll go back to
[58:04] Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. I remember being on one of
[58:09] Speaker 3: the site's short lived show on Fox, her talk show
[58:15] Speaker 3: and she.
[58:15] Speaker 2: Said, well, we did our part.
[58:18] Speaker 3: I said no, I said, voting is not your only part.
[58:24] Speaker 3: You have to stay engaged after the election to put
[58:28] Speaker 3: pressure on these folks to do what they said they
[58:31] Speaker 3: were going to do. And I've done this on radio
[58:35] Speaker 3: shows in numerous places, and folks are sort of like wow,
[58:40] Speaker 3: really like yeah two as you were talking about folks
[58:46] Speaker 3: who say, well I just don't think it matters, or
[58:49] Speaker 3: well they were supposed to do this here and then
[58:52] Speaker 3: it didn't happen. Also, I think a lot of people
[58:55] Speaker 3: don't understand you might vote for said person, say school
[59:00] Speaker 3: board or city council member, but if it's nine council members,
[59:05] Speaker 3: that person's gonna need.
[59:06] Speaker 2: Four other votes. You got to get five out of
[59:09] Speaker 2: the nine.
[59:10] Speaker 3: And what I've encountered are a lot of people who
[59:14] Speaker 3: really don't understand that, yes, you might vote for an individual,
[59:20] Speaker 3: but there are other pieces of this political thing.
[59:24] Speaker 2: If you say I voted for.
[59:25] Speaker 3: This person for president, and if you voted for the Democrat,
[59:29] Speaker 3: but Republicans control the House and the Senate, guess what,
[59:33] Speaker 3: a lot of your stuff ain't gonna get passed. And
[59:35] Speaker 3: so was that showing up and did they speak to
[59:41] Speaker 3: that in terms of what it's going to be required
[59:44] Speaker 3: to walk people through the reality of what politics really
[59:49] Speaker 3: is about. Because I just think, again, and I've been
[59:52] Speaker 3: count of encountering people for years, Katrina, I just think people.
[59:55] Speaker 2: Just go, oh, well, I let this so and so
[59:57] Speaker 2: nothing changed.
[59:58] Speaker 3: Well that they're one of two hundred if they are
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: in the majority in the House, one of two eighteen
[1:00:05] Speaker 3: black people were mad Democrats.
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: They ain't done nothing.
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: George Ford just is that, no, it passed the House,
[1:00:11] Speaker 3: it didn't pass the Senate, and so did you see
[1:00:15] Speaker 3: that in the In this survey, we.
[1:00:19] Speaker 5: Didn't ask questions that got specifically at what you're articulating
[1:00:24] Speaker 5: their roland. But one of the things that I will say,
[1:00:26] Speaker 5: as someone who has been in this work for many years,
[1:00:29] Speaker 5: is that in part the way that we organize people
[1:00:32] Speaker 5: to vote is created the situation that you're naming, because oftentimes,
[1:00:37] Speaker 5: especially for the black electorate, we show up just a
[1:00:40] Speaker 5: month or so before the election and we create this
[1:00:43] Speaker 5: urgency and we tell people that they have to vote,
[1:00:46] Speaker 5: and if they vote, that this is the thing that
[1:00:48] Speaker 5: is going to change things. And so in part we
[1:00:51] Speaker 5: are many of the people who are doing this work
[1:00:53] Speaker 5: is they're creating that false sense that voting is going
[1:00:56] Speaker 5: to solve all of the problems. So one thing I
[1:00:58] Speaker 5: would say is that part of it is we have
[1:01:01] Speaker 5: to readjust how we organize and talk to black voters.
[1:01:06] Speaker 5: The other thing is is that over the course, not
[1:01:08] Speaker 5: just in this survey, but in other research that we've done,
[1:01:12] Speaker 5: is that we have found when people are to your point,
[1:01:16] Speaker 5: brought into organizations where they are a part of a community,
[1:01:21] Speaker 5: where they are developing their own civic education and leadership development,
[1:01:25] Speaker 5: they understand their agency in the process, not just with
[1:01:29] Speaker 5: voting but other forms of civic action, that they're much
[1:01:32] Speaker 5: more likely to be engaged. So I agree with you
[1:01:37] Speaker 5: that the solution isn't just voting, that there are other
[1:01:42] Speaker 5: things that need to be done. But I think it's
[1:01:45] Speaker 5: part of the job of the people who are doing
[1:01:48] Speaker 5: work around the political industry and political education to make
[1:01:51] Speaker 5: sure that people understand the full process, understand their power
[1:01:55] Speaker 5: in this process, and put them bring them into organizations
[1:01:59] Speaker 5: that can show them how they can have an impact
[1:02:02] Speaker 5: whole people accountable outside of elections. And I think people
[1:02:05] Speaker 5: are actually looking for that from some of the things
[1:02:08] Speaker 5: that people said in the focus groups. They're saying that
[1:02:10] Speaker 5: they want to be more connected to their community. They
[1:02:12] Speaker 5: want to be a part of organizations where they feel
[1:02:14] Speaker 5: seen and they have a voice. But many of them
[1:02:17] Speaker 5: are articulating that they don't have those spaces where they live,
[1:02:21] Speaker 5: or no one is inviting them into those types of spaces.
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: There's a book that I'm actually, I mean literally, we
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: are writing it and editing it right now. It's called
[1:02:30] Speaker 3: Black Forward, where I talk about this very thing and
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: one of the things that I have been really focusing on.
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: And again I talked to Bishop William Barbara a lot,
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: and I'm always talking about how we have to go
[1:02:43] Speaker 3: from micro to macro, how we have to look at
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: this thing totally different. Again, I grew up. The reason
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: I am politically astute the knowledge that I have is
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: it wasn't top down. It was because my parents were
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: founders of a civic club that was that was as
[1:03:03] Speaker 3: micro as you can get. And I often talk about
[1:03:06] Speaker 3: my speeches where I say, you can't have a great
[1:03:10] Speaker 3: nation without great states. Great states require great counties. Great
[1:03:16] Speaker 3: counties require great cities, cities, neighborhoods, neighborhoods, blocks, blocks, streets, streets, houses, houses, family, families,
[1:03:27] Speaker 3: one person in the house, and then it goes in reverse.
[1:03:31] Speaker 3: Individual family, neighbors, street, block, neighborhood, uh, city, county, state, nation.
[1:03:40] Speaker 3: And I think that when we're talking about this notion
[1:03:43] Speaker 3: of belonging, I really do believe that it.
[1:03:46] Speaker 2: Has to be.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: It has to be micro uh this and and the
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: and the micro piece has to be community driven. And
[1:03:56] Speaker 3: then when you start dealing with people with comm unity
[1:04:00] Speaker 3: driven issues, then they begin to learn, oh, wait a minute,
[1:04:06] Speaker 3: that's the county. Oh that's the city. Oh that's this department.
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: Oh that's not okay. We don't call the police chief.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: We don't call the deputy chief. We actually call the
[1:04:18] Speaker 3: district commander. You actually begin to learn how politics works,
[1:04:23] Speaker 3: and you begin to learn how all of these things.
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: Are all interconnected.
[1:04:27] Speaker 3: And I've read about that in the book, that this
[1:04:30] Speaker 3: is what is going to require and it's also going
[1:04:32] Speaker 3: to require these vote organizations.
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: And I've told many of them as.
[1:04:37] Speaker 3: Well, you can't, you know, we build up these massive
[1:04:41] Speaker 3: institutions only around elections, and soon any election is over,
[1:04:45] Speaker 3: they disappear. I said, no, they have to actually now
[1:04:49] Speaker 3: switch into now policy role. And if you're going to
[1:04:53] Speaker 3: be having these rallies and meetings, collect the data and
[1:04:57] Speaker 3: now keep the folks involved after the fact. But yeah,
[1:05:01] Speaker 3: if it's only you approach somebody and saying vote, vote,
[1:05:04] Speaker 3: and they don't understand the process and also how long
[1:05:07] Speaker 3: things may change, then they are going to be ticked
[1:05:11] Speaker 3: off when they see nothing happens.
[1:05:14] Speaker 5: Now, I agree with you one hundred percent, And to
[1:05:18] Speaker 5: your point of having to start micro and build macro,
[1:05:21] Speaker 5: that's exactly what we found is that many of these
[1:05:24] Speaker 5: people are very isolated. A large number of them say
[1:05:28] Speaker 5: that they have very few friends, nearly a majority of them.
[1:05:32] Speaker 5: And we had a whole list of types of organizations, fraternities,
[1:05:36] Speaker 5: local community groups, different types of organizations. Many of them
[1:05:40] Speaker 5: are not connected to organizations at all. So these are
[1:05:43] Speaker 5: people who are very isolated from community. But when we
[1:05:46] Speaker 5: ask them, over fifty two percent of them say that
[1:05:49] Speaker 5: they want to be more connected to their community. So
[1:05:52] Speaker 5: it's not a lack of desire. I think that it's
[1:05:55] Speaker 5: a lack of access to community. And so the way
[1:05:58] Speaker 5: that we move people to engage despite this frustration and
[1:06:02] Speaker 5: distrust is to your point, we have to rebuild the
[1:06:05] Speaker 5: civic infrastructure in this country. We have to start building
[1:06:09] Speaker 5: what I like to call civic homes, places where we're
[1:06:12] Speaker 5: creating deep senses of belonging and connection for people, and
[1:06:16] Speaker 5: then we're providing trainings for them to understand their own
[1:06:18] Speaker 5: agency and leadership in this democracy and a place where
[1:06:22] Speaker 5: they can work with other peoples in their community to
[1:06:25] Speaker 5: actually have an impact. When people have the ability to
[1:06:28] Speaker 5: do that together and they can see where they can win,
[1:06:31] Speaker 5: they can see where they can push even if they
[1:06:34] Speaker 5: don't win, they can see how they can get different
[1:06:36] Speaker 5: elected officials to react to them. They start to understand
[1:06:39] Speaker 5: their power, and that's how you can get them to
[1:06:41] Speaker 5: engage in all forms of civic action, including voting. But
[1:06:45] Speaker 5: with people who have this level of distrust, we can't
[1:06:47] Speaker 5: just show show up on their door in October and
[1:06:50] Speaker 5: say hey, will you vote. Actually, it's definitely not going
[1:06:54] Speaker 5: to work. The data shows that, and we can look
[1:06:56] Speaker 5: at past elections and we're seeing that when we show
[1:07:00] Speaker 5: up in these last minute for people who have this
[1:07:01] Speaker 5: deep distrust, they're not going to just show up to vote.
[1:07:04] Speaker 5: You have to invest in this type of rebuilding of
[1:07:07] Speaker 5: the civic infrastructure and creating deep sense of belogging to
[1:07:09] Speaker 5: bring people back.
[1:07:10] Speaker 3: In last question for you, I remember having I was
[1:07:15] Speaker 3: invited to a black male dinner with Vice President Kamala
[1:07:18] Speaker 3: Harris at the VP's Residents November twenty twenty three, and
[1:07:23] Speaker 3: I remember saying to her point blank, and then I
[1:07:27] Speaker 3: said it to Quentin, the deputy campaign manager, and I
[1:07:31] Speaker 3: said it to Sedric Richmond. I said it to others.
[1:07:34] Speaker 3: I said, guys, listen you, I said, if the election
[1:07:38] Speaker 3: is in November twenty twenty four, I said, January to July,
[1:07:44] Speaker 3: January to the end of July should be what I said.
[1:07:47] Speaker 3: You should be having a lit me of what I
[1:07:51] Speaker 3: call educate, enlightened inform discussions where you literally are telling
[1:08:02] Speaker 3: people we accomplish this, this walking them through these things.
[1:08:07] Speaker 3: I said, you should have you got. I said, you
[1:08:09] Speaker 3: should have city council members, school board members, county commissioners,
[1:08:14] Speaker 3: state reps, state Senate, members of the House holding just
[1:08:18] Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about thousands of town halls everywhere.
[1:08:23] Speaker 3: You should have your volunteers, you talk about these civic groups,
[1:08:29] Speaker 3: having these small conversations as well, to walk people through
[1:08:34] Speaker 3: what you did. Because one of the things we see
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: in the data, there were a lot of stuff that
[1:08:39] Speaker 3: Biden Harris did. People had no idea they did because
[1:08:41] Speaker 3: they did a horrible job as a White House explained
[1:08:44] Speaker 3: to people. I said, so that's going to be January
[1:08:47] Speaker 3: to July, and you have to invest. Your convention is
[1:08:50] Speaker 3: in August. Then you're getting into September and October, the
[1:08:55] Speaker 3: meat of the campaign. I said, if you don't do
[1:08:57] Speaker 3: that in January to July, I said, you're gonna be
[1:09:00] Speaker 3: showing up in September October and they're gonna have no.
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: Idea what the hell you did. And I've said this
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: to so many damn candidates, and.
[1:09:11] Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all gotta stop the normal way of running
[1:09:15] Speaker 3: because you're going to have to invest more time and
[1:09:19] Speaker 3: energy on the front end. You need a longer runway
[1:09:23] Speaker 3: than just this short two maybe three month window.
[1:09:29] Speaker 5: I could not agree with you more. And we actually
[1:09:33] Speaker 5: did research. We did Black Values research in late twenty
[1:09:37] Speaker 5: twenty two and again in twenty twenty four, where we
[1:09:40] Speaker 5: had found this large segment of cynical voters and the
[1:09:43] Speaker 5: data was showing us that you have to start early.
[1:09:46] Speaker 5: You have to be having these small conversations. And honestly,
[1:09:50] Speaker 5: we were sharing that information all over the place to
[1:09:53] Speaker 5: whoever would listen. But we are trying to disrupt a
[1:09:57] Speaker 5: political industry that is used to do things a certain way,
[1:10:01] Speaker 5: and so that's why we're out here sharing this research.
[1:10:03] Speaker 5: We're trying to disrupt that and let people know that
[1:10:05] Speaker 5: the things that work. And we have partners like an
[1:10:08] Speaker 5: organization called Power Interfaith in Pennsylvania that are having these
[1:10:12] Speaker 5: small what they call soul food dinners in barbershops, in
[1:10:15] Speaker 5: community centers, in churches where they're meeting in small groups
[1:10:18] Speaker 5: to talk to people, build trust, and they're doing these
[1:10:22] Speaker 5: conversations over and over again to move people to become
[1:10:26] Speaker 5: more civically engaged. That's the work. I know, it doesn't
[1:10:29] Speaker 5: feel super sexy and quick, but it's the thing that
[1:10:33] Speaker 5: is necessary. And the data keeps showing us that that
[1:10:36] Speaker 5: is what's necessary for us to bring in nearly thirty
[1:10:39] Speaker 5: five percent of the electorate back into politics.
[1:10:42] Speaker 3: So and again, and the numbers also the show you
[1:10:46] Speaker 3: move five to seven percent, you switch the election because
[1:10:49] Speaker 3: you're now the narrow margins. Rebecca, The thing here is,
[1:10:53] Speaker 3: and you asked the question in terms of sharing these
[1:10:55] Speaker 3: different people, here's a fundamental flaw, Rebecca, and that is
[1:10:59] Speaker 3: the these damn campaign consultants do not want to spend
[1:11:04] Speaker 3: the money on things like this. They don't want to
[1:11:07] Speaker 3: put it on the ground. They don't want to have
[1:11:10] Speaker 3: a community driven They just think that everything.
[1:11:13] Speaker 2: Is solved with TV and radio ads.
[1:11:17] Speaker 5: Or they want to improperly vet Senate candidates right, which
[1:11:21] Speaker 5: we've all seen and we're seeing some of the video
[1:11:24] Speaker 5: around that. Here's the thing. If we're saying that democracy
[1:11:27] Speaker 5: is under attack, if we're saying that we're fighting for
[1:11:29] Speaker 5: our future, then we need all of those with resources,
[1:11:33] Speaker 5: especially donors, those in the donor class put your money
[1:11:37] Speaker 5: where your mouth is. You know, all many of us
[1:11:39] Speaker 5: are having meetings with these very people and we're telling them, hey,
[1:11:43] Speaker 5: there needs to be resources out in the field to
[1:11:45] Speaker 5: make sure that there is proper voter education. The reason
[1:11:49] Speaker 5: why it's so important this year is we have the
[1:11:52] Speaker 5: leader of the free world. We have the President of
[1:11:55] Speaker 5: the United States of America using his bully pulpit to
[1:12:00] Speaker 5: to attack relentlessly our voting system in this country. He
[1:12:06] Speaker 5: is going on air, he is from the White House,
[1:12:08] Speaker 5: from the Oval Office. He is saying that the election
[1:12:12] Speaker 5: integrity of this country is under suspicion. He is also
[1:12:16] Speaker 5: saying and doing other things, using every agency in the
[1:12:21] Speaker 5: executive branch to attack voting rights in this country. He
[1:12:25] Speaker 5: is relentlessly suing. He is threatening to withhold money from states,
[1:12:30] Speaker 5: he is attacking and vote by mail. He is attacking
[1:12:33] Speaker 5: campuses from doing from following the law which says that
[1:12:38] Speaker 5: campuses are that receive federal funding are supposed to provide
[1:12:41] Speaker 5: opportunities and register students to vote. He is hell bent
[1:12:46] Speaker 5: on making it tough for people to vote in this country.
[1:12:49] Speaker 5: And we need donors, not just political donors, but we
[1:12:53] Speaker 5: need donors who support democracy, donors within civil society to
[1:12:58] Speaker 5: actually move money into the field. It's not just my
[1:13:01] Speaker 5: organization Fair Election Center that's suffering, but is many organizations
[1:13:05] Speaker 5: like will you Melanie Campbell was on earlier. Many of
[1:13:08] Speaker 5: our organizations have been starved out of funding in such
[1:13:12] Speaker 5: a critical year. And so when we actually have data
[1:13:15] Speaker 5: that Katrina put forth that shows you have to engage
[1:13:20] Speaker 5: with voters if you want them to turn out, then
[1:13:23] Speaker 5: why wouldn't we put those resources behind the very groups
[1:13:26] Speaker 5: that are poised and actually have the expercise.
[1:13:30] Speaker 2: To do so well. Hopefully that happens.
[1:13:35] Speaker 3: Katrina tell people where people can actually go and see
[1:13:40] Speaker 3: your information.
[1:13:43] Speaker 5: They can find the research at dpifund dot org and
[1:13:48] Speaker 5: they can follow my organization at so Journey Strategies on
[1:13:54] Speaker 5: all social media channels.
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: All right.
[1:13:56] Speaker 5: Our website is so journey Strategies dot com.
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[1:16:52] Speaker 3: Carol Out, a black woman, files a fifteen million dollar
[1:16:55] Speaker 3: lawsuit against Gaston County and Advanced Auto Parts after false
[1:16:58] Speaker 3: accusations and arrest. Thirty three year old Tambor Park was
[1:17:01] Speaker 3: falsely accused and arrested by the Gaston County Police Department
[1:17:04] Speaker 3: for identity theft in September twenty twenty four of the
[1:17:07] Speaker 3: lawsuit names the Gaston police officer William Sampson and the
[1:17:11] Speaker 3: Advanced Auto Parks employee Olivia Presley as defendants. Joining us
[1:17:16] Speaker 3: right now is first, let's talk to Harry Daniels about
[1:17:21] Speaker 3: that is attorney representing them. Harry walk us through this case.
[1:17:26] Speaker 3: So they said she stole something.
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: Thanks rolland for having me on. Yes, this is.
[1:17:36] Speaker 20: The storyline hin This case is almost unbelievable. This is
[1:17:41] Speaker 20: a situation where somebody use somebody else's account bank account
[1:17:47] Speaker 20: to basically take or get iPhones delivered to a Advanced
[1:17:53] Speaker 20: Auto Park store in North Carolina right outside Gaston, Gastonia,
[1:17:58] Speaker 20: North Carolina and Gaston County. My client goes to the
[1:18:03] Speaker 20: store on a certain day looking for a part for
[1:18:06] Speaker 20: a husband. He was fixed on the vehicle. Nothing unremarkable.
[1:18:11] Speaker 20: That's going to the store. They didn't have the vehicle,
[1:18:13] Speaker 20: they didn't have the park.
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: She leaves.
[1:18:16] Speaker 20: About a week later, a police officer shows up at
[1:18:19] Speaker 20: a home with a search warrant searching a house. I
[1:18:24] Speaker 20: had an order to search warrant to take cell phones.
[1:18:27] Speaker 20: I passed as such. Three months later, about two or
[1:18:31] Speaker 20: three months later, she found herself being arrested for identity
[1:18:35] Speaker 20: theft and thefts still basically still in the cell phones.
[1:18:40] Speaker 20: Later on, she proclaimed her innocence from the beginning and
[1:18:43] Speaker 20: she had nothing to do with this.
[1:18:46] Speaker 15: She was accused.
[1:18:48] Speaker 20: I had to go through the course system, had to
[1:18:49] Speaker 20: hire attorney. Eventually her caps dismissed. Once we just got
[1:18:53] Speaker 20: the discovery, we learned that the employee at the Advanced
[1:18:58] Speaker 20: Audio party store actually sent a picture to the detective
[1:19:03] Speaker 20: in the case investigating case saying that on a certain day,
[1:19:06] Speaker 20: made twenty of twenty four, that my client was at
[1:19:09] Speaker 20: the store and took a picture of her vehicle. Well,
[1:19:13] Speaker 20: on twenty four, my clients was at a kindergarten graduation
[1:19:18] Speaker 20: for her daughter, and GPS evidence proved she was never there.
[1:19:22] Speaker 20: The police had knowledge of this. We believe that the
[1:19:25] Speaker 20: information provided to the investigator was a ploye to implicate
[1:19:31] Speaker 20: my client and a crime that she didn't commit, because
[1:19:35] Speaker 20: we believe the person who actually made a committed a
[1:19:37] Speaker 20: crime worked at the store to try to throw the
[1:19:40] Speaker 20: police off their tail. Nevertheless, my client was place was dismissed,
[1:19:45] Speaker 20: but during that time, she lost her home, she lost
[1:19:48] Speaker 20: I'm sorry, she lost her job, almost lost her home
[1:19:50] Speaker 20: home in a forecloser credit. She spent money, her family
[1:19:54] Speaker 20: that is torn apart, and she's now trying to put
[1:19:57] Speaker 20: together the pieces for what happened to her back in
[1:19:59] Speaker 20: the twenty twenty four. This case is, this case is
[1:20:03] Speaker 20: a case that's almost unbelievable.
[1:20:05] Speaker 1: What happened. The only thing that she did.
[1:20:07] Speaker 20: She went into the store as a black woman, found
[1:20:09] Speaker 20: herself charged, arrested, Her life based to turn upside down
[1:20:13] Speaker 20: because somebody lied and the police officer had evidence to
[1:20:17] Speaker 20: show that she did not commit a crime, nor was
[1:20:20] Speaker 20: she around in the area where when the crime was committed.
[1:20:24] Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's a whole lot right there. Let's talk
[1:20:27] Speaker 3: about this story out of woman to Delaware, where black
[1:20:30] Speaker 3: families demanded the release of the body camera video after
[1:20:32] Speaker 3: Kadir Skinner was shot in the back while running away
[1:20:35] Speaker 3: from a police officer. Police say Kadeer pulled a gun
[1:20:37] Speaker 3: at the crowd of people, but Skinner's family questions whether
[1:20:40] Speaker 3: or not their son had a gun and claims he
[1:20:41] Speaker 3: was running from a dog.
[1:20:44] Speaker 2: Harry walk us through this who.
[1:20:45] Speaker 3: This young man was? And again so they claimed he
[1:20:49] Speaker 3: had a gun.
[1:20:51] Speaker 20: Yeah, so let me Cader Skinner, good kid from good
[1:20:55] Speaker 20: family nineteen years old. He in fact the day where
[1:21:00] Speaker 20: when he was killed by police, It was actually just
[1:21:04] Speaker 20: before he was shot and killed, visiting his elderly grandmother.
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: Uh, we've seen the video.
[1:21:09] Speaker 20: Myself and Attorney Crump along with Attorney Chance links with
[1:21:13] Speaker 20: being Crump. We represent this family in this matter. We
[1:21:16] Speaker 20: actually seen the body camp footage. The body camera footage
[1:21:20] Speaker 20: hopefully be released to the public real soon. And on
[1:21:22] Speaker 20: that BodyCount footage you're gonna see that Candish Skinner is
[1:21:25] Speaker 20: running from a dog. He's running from a dog. A
[1:21:28] Speaker 20: police officer gets out of the squad car, chases him
[1:21:31] Speaker 20: and subsequently shoots him in the back. What could I
[1:21:34] Speaker 20: could ultimately die of his injuries. Many allegations that he
[1:21:39] Speaker 20: had a gun in his hand. Roland, I first want
[1:21:41] Speaker 20: to tell you we saw the video. We did did
[1:21:43] Speaker 20: not see a weapon in his hand at all. And
[1:21:46] Speaker 20: in fact, if in opposition, if he did have a
[1:21:49] Speaker 20: weapon in his hand, he never pointed the weapon at police.
[1:21:52] Speaker 20: He never threatened nobody anybody with a weapon. And law
[1:21:55] Speaker 20: is very clear in that circuit you cannot shoot and
[1:21:58] Speaker 20: kill a person just because they had a weapon. He
[1:22:02] Speaker 20: have to have some type of threatening moves or some
[1:22:06] Speaker 20: site move towards police or law enforcem I mean others
[1:22:08] Speaker 20: of law enforcement that didn't happen. This is a very
[1:22:11] Speaker 20: tragic story. Like I said, we've seen that body camera.
[1:22:14] Speaker 20: The body camera has not been released. I hope that
[1:22:16] Speaker 20: body can be released very soon so he can give
[1:22:19] Speaker 20: some transparency to what happened to condition Skinner, Like I
[1:22:23] Speaker 20: said myself, and being we all over this case, it's
[1:22:26] Speaker 20: more to come. This case will probably be thrust in
[1:22:29] Speaker 20: the national limelight media once these videos released.
[1:22:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing how all this time they haven't released
[1:22:38] Speaker 3: the video Normally if it helped their case, that video
[1:22:41] Speaker 3: will be out quickly.
[1:22:44] Speaker 20: Yeah, it doesn't help the case at all. I mean,
[1:22:47] Speaker 20: this videos is it doesn't help the case. I mean,
[1:22:50] Speaker 20: this video shows exactly what some of the witches said.
[1:22:52] Speaker 20: He was running from a dog. You know, it's riding
[1:22:55] Speaker 20: while black, shopping while black, boating while black, never running
[1:22:58] Speaker 20: from a dog while black. You know, I don't know
[1:23:00] Speaker 20: why the most dangerous thing to police officers a black
[1:23:03] Speaker 20: man running away from this young ninety year old kid
[1:23:06] Speaker 20: with a whole life ahead of.
[1:23:07] Speaker 1: Him gunned down. And it's premature.
[1:23:11] Speaker 20: She's never been shot at all, and it is unjustified
[1:23:15] Speaker 20: and it's an excuse mele and we hope that we
[1:23:17] Speaker 20: can deliver some resis justice to this family.
[1:23:19] Speaker 3: All right, Harry Daniel, She'll appreciate the man.
[1:23:21] Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Thanks, Ronan.
[1:23:23] Speaker 1: Take care, folks.
[1:23:24] Speaker 3: The investigation is the death of nineteen year old Nolan
[1:23:26] Speaker 3: Wells is ongoing and increasing speculation online is focused on
[1:23:30] Speaker 3: one of the famili's linked to the July fourth voting trip.
[1:23:33] Speaker 3: Ashley Cole, a judge on Mississippi's sixteenth chance Record, the
[1:23:37] Speaker 3: stepmother of Warren Hudson, one of the white teens who
[1:23:40] Speaker 3: accompanied Wales on the trip to Horn Island before disappeared,
[1:23:43] Speaker 3: issued a public statement after deactivating her Facebook account in
[1:23:47] Speaker 3: response to the growing rumors about her family.
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:23:52] Speaker 2: This is what she wrote.
[1:23:53] Speaker 3: Our family, alone with the community, grieves the loss of
[1:23:55] Speaker 3: Nolan Wells. Our thoughts and prayers are with Nolan's family.
[1:23:58] Speaker 3: Our son Warren Nolan dearly. Unfortunately. I feel that it
[1:24:03] Speaker 3: is appropriate for our family to dispel some rumors with
[1:24:06] Speaker 3: facts based upon the social media attention that is being
[1:24:11] Speaker 3: diverted away from the Wells family and their laws. Yes,
[1:24:14] Speaker 3: I deactivated my Facebook given the very heightened emotional state
[1:24:17] Speaker 3: of social media right now. I feel for the safety
[1:24:20] Speaker 3: of my child and my children. My husband and I
[1:24:22] Speaker 3: have six children, and we covet their privacy. We do
[1:24:25] Speaker 3: not believe it is appropriate for our minor children's photographs
[1:24:27] Speaker 3: to be circulated throughout the Internet, presenting potential threats to
[1:24:30] Speaker 3: their safety. I graduated high school with Christine Wells Wansley.
[1:24:34] Speaker 3: We are from the same community. I have the utmost
[1:24:36] Speaker 3: respect for her and all of the Wells family. We
[1:24:39] Speaker 3: mourn the loss of Noland with them. Our prayers have
[1:24:42] Speaker 3: been and will continue.
[1:24:43] Speaker 2: To be with them.
[1:24:44] Speaker 3: My husband and I were not at Horn Island at
[1:24:46] Speaker 3: any point on the fourth of July. No one in
[1:24:48] Speaker 3: our family is trying in any way to impede with
[1:24:51] Speaker 3: the investigation by law enforcement or to otherwise hamper the
[1:24:54] Speaker 3: family and law enforcement's quest for answers. Warren was interviewed
[1:24:58] Speaker 3: by the Jackson County Sheriff's Department in cooperated fully. He
[1:25:01] Speaker 3: saw Nolan last at around three pm on July fourth.
[1:25:04] Speaker 3: They left around four thirty pm when the boat was
[1:25:06] Speaker 3: taking on water and they had an issue with the
[1:25:10] Speaker 3: bilge pump. Nolan made a decision to stay on the
[1:25:13] Speaker 3: island and return in the later with another group of friends. Yes,
[1:25:16] Speaker 3: I am a judge. I also value transparency. I apologize
[1:25:20] Speaker 3: if anyone was offended that I deleted my social media.
[1:25:23] Speaker 3: There were no nefarious motivations in my deleting my social media.
[1:25:27] Speaker 3: Social media has a lot of positives, but a whole
[1:25:29] Speaker 3: lot of negatives. We live in the world of clickbaiting.
[1:25:32] Speaker 3: Sad but true. My family is hopeful that this information
[1:25:35] Speaker 3: will help to redirect the attention to the Wills family,
[1:25:37] Speaker 3: their grief and their need for our community support. Folks,
[1:25:40] Speaker 3: Nolan's family is waiting on the results of an independent
[1:25:43] Speaker 3: autopsy that is actually being being performed. According to attorney
[1:25:48] Speaker 3: Ben Crump, this Steel Robert is a rather strange story.
[1:25:53] Speaker 2: So here she says that they.
[1:25:56] Speaker 3: Left around three Nolan chose to come back with another
[1:26:02] Speaker 3: group of friends. Okay, where are those friends? And also,
[1:26:08] Speaker 3: we've seen the social media video. There will a lot
[1:26:11] Speaker 3: of boats in that area. You'll have a video play
[1:26:14] Speaker 3: it where they recorded Dolan arguing with several white male teams.
[1:26:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:26:24] Speaker 6: Well, I think the issue to mean people have and
[1:26:26] Speaker 6: to the judge's statement on social media that it has
[1:26:28] Speaker 6: both positive and negatives. One of the positive is it
[1:26:31] Speaker 6: makes it very hard for people to bullshit you. In
[1:26:35] Speaker 6: twenty thirty years ago, something happened, she has to take
[1:26:37] Speaker 6: someone's word for it. But in twenty twenty six, there's
[1:26:40] Speaker 6: GPS location on nearly every phone. Any gen z is
[1:26:44] Speaker 6: recording twenty four hours today, sevent days a week, there's
[1:26:47] Speaker 6: a live stream. It's not just what people saw, what
[1:26:50] Speaker 6: people said, it is about what is recorded. And I
[1:26:52] Speaker 6: think one of the important things that's going to be
[1:26:54] Speaker 6: is police have already Anybody who watches First forty eight
[1:26:57] Speaker 6: knows that that initial period of time is what is important.
[1:27:01] Speaker 6: We should have interviewed every single one of those teams
[1:27:03] Speaker 6: that were there. They should have subpoenaed on the cell
[1:27:06] Speaker 6: phones of all individuals involved to make sure they not
[1:27:08] Speaker 6: just that they had all videos, but no videos were
[1:27:11] Speaker 6: being deleted. We will probably never know how many different
[1:27:15] Speaker 6: angles of what happened are recorded, and we probably don't
[1:27:17] Speaker 6: have the ability to track those things down at this
[1:27:20] Speaker 6: point in time. But to the judge's statement, she's only
[1:27:23] Speaker 6: making things worse. He's only making things seem as if
[1:27:25] Speaker 6: there's a bigger cover up going on. I've had the
[1:27:29] Speaker 6: same five best friends since freshman year of college, it's
[1:27:32] Speaker 6: been twenty four years, we've all been friends. I know
[1:27:35] Speaker 6: where all of them are at at any given time,
[1:27:37] Speaker 6: and if one goes missing for any period of time,
[1:27:39] Speaker 6: we will all come together like the Avengers to make
[1:27:42] Speaker 6: sure that I'm using a person missing. But with that,
[1:27:45] Speaker 6: this idea that nobody saw anything, nobody has any concept
[1:27:48] Speaker 6: of what happens, I think very unsettling to most people.
[1:27:51] Speaker 6: And now there's a social media trend happening called check
[1:27:54] Speaker 6: on Your Brothers where black men are literally walking up
[1:27:57] Speaker 6: to black men who are the only black kids or
[1:27:59] Speaker 6: black dudes in their social circle and just check it
[1:28:02] Speaker 6: in with them to make sure they are okay, and
[1:28:03] Speaker 6: make sure they know that they are seen, that they're
[1:28:05] Speaker 6: looked out for, and if anything happens, you know you
[1:28:08] Speaker 6: have a brother around here who can help out. And
[1:28:10] Speaker 6: I think it's important for us to reform this sense
[1:28:12] Speaker 6: of community, this ability to communicate, because we've seen this
[1:28:15] Speaker 6: happen too many times in recent years, to the point
[1:28:18] Speaker 6: that we can only say it's just a coincidence that
[1:28:20] Speaker 6: so many times a group of people and the only
[1:28:22] Speaker 6: black person in one who ends up dead.
[1:28:24] Speaker 3: Here's why I'm confused, of Rebecca. This is a News
[1:28:30] Speaker 3: Nation story as they were looking for him and says,
[1:28:33] Speaker 3: Wells didn't have his cell phone when he went missing.
[1:28:37] Speaker 3: His parents, Christine and Ilmore Wansley, now have the phone. Okay, Rebecca,
[1:28:43] Speaker 3: for the life of me, I don't know any gen
[1:28:49] Speaker 3: z that is not always with their phone. I'm jen X.
[1:28:56] Speaker 3: My phone's always with me. Yeah, never not on my person.
[1:29:03] Speaker 3: And so it's like, okay, So if he decided to
[1:29:07] Speaker 3: stay back with another group of friends, he wouldn't have
[1:29:12] Speaker 3: his phone. Why would his phone go back with the
[1:29:17] Speaker 3: first group of friends?
[1:29:22] Speaker 5: That judge should have kept their mouth closed, because here's
[1:29:25] Speaker 5: the other thing. In addition to how we know how
[1:29:27] Speaker 5: people are with phones, especially eighteen year olds, especially teenagers,
[1:29:32] Speaker 5: we know that phone is basically glued to their hand
[1:29:35] Speaker 5: like they do literally do everything in life with their phone.
[1:29:39] Speaker 5: They go to sleep with the phone in their hand,
[1:29:41] Speaker 5: They shower with the phone in their hand, they go
[1:29:43] Speaker 5: to school with the phone in their hand. Unfortunately, they
[1:29:45] Speaker 5: be driving with the phone in their hand. Here's the
[1:29:47] Speaker 5: other thing that we also know. If your child does
[1:29:49] Speaker 5: not come back and it's now getting dark, guess what's happening.
[1:29:54] Speaker 5: Not only not only is that parent or those parents
[1:29:57] Speaker 5: those guardians calling law enforcement, they're als calling the parents
[1:30:01] Speaker 5: and the kids that their child was with. So you
[1:30:05] Speaker 5: need to tell me this is this is what my
[1:30:07] Speaker 5: assumption is. You need to tell me that a mother
[1:30:10] Speaker 5: is calling around trying to figure out where her son is,
[1:30:15] Speaker 5: but no one calls the police. You mean to tell
[1:30:19] Speaker 5: me that they're telling their parents, presumably maybe this judge's
[1:30:24] Speaker 5: kid or stepson or whoever the kid is a relationship
[1:30:28] Speaker 5: to the judge. What they would say, Oh, well, we
[1:30:31] Speaker 5: left him because he said he'll figure out his way back,
[1:30:34] Speaker 5: but oh, we also.
[1:30:35] Speaker 7: Have this phone.
[1:30:35] Speaker 5: So you need to tell me within these households, there
[1:30:38] Speaker 5: wasn't conversations that happened, happened that evening before before the
[1:30:46] Speaker 5: police was called by by Nolan's mother, Like, none of
[1:30:52] Speaker 5: that even makes sense. And so for her to even
[1:30:55] Speaker 5: put together these words, like actually type these words and
[1:30:59] Speaker 5: then post these words. She's a judge, and I know
[1:31:03] Speaker 5: some of these judges aren't properly vented, but come on.
[1:31:11] Speaker 2: All of this is baffling to me.
[1:31:15] Speaker 3: Joy And again, I'm just gonna start with if a
[1:31:20] Speaker 3: person decides to stay back, they don't let you take
[1:31:24] Speaker 3: their cell phone. A young person is taking pictures, taking videos,
[1:31:29] Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff along those lines. How does
[1:31:32] Speaker 3: the phone you separated from the kid?
[1:31:36] Speaker 15: I don't know. Listen, I unfortunately disagree with some of
[1:31:40] Speaker 15: my panel co panelists here. I don't think there was
[1:31:42] Speaker 15: anything wrong with what this mother said, and she chose
[1:31:46] Speaker 15: to say she was going to get off social media. Hell,
[1:31:49] Speaker 15: I've gotten off social media when you know, things get
[1:31:52] Speaker 15: you hot. So I don't really have an issue with that.
[1:31:55] Speaker 15: We don't know her son's involvement what to the extent,
[1:31:59] Speaker 15: we don't know anything. What we do know is it's suspicious.
[1:32:03] Speaker 5: We do know that.
[1:32:04] Speaker 15: I agree with you, Roland. I think it's very unusual
[1:32:07] Speaker 15: that a young person in any person would be separated
[1:32:09] Speaker 15: from their phone, especially if they were that far out right.
[1:32:12] Speaker 15: If that just feels unusual to us. The investigators are
[1:32:16] Speaker 15: getting a lot of information right now, and what we
[1:32:18] Speaker 15: have got to do is make sure that we are
[1:32:21] Speaker 15: keeping the pressure up, that we want regular updates on
[1:32:25] Speaker 15: this story, that we want to make sure everyone is investigated,
[1:32:29] Speaker 15: including some of the parents who may have been engaged
[1:32:33] Speaker 15: with some of their young their adults, but some of
[1:32:36] Speaker 15: their young adult children who may have gone to their
[1:32:40] Speaker 15: parents and talk to them after the fact. We don't
[1:32:42] Speaker 15: know that right so I'm sure everybody's cell phone numbers,
[1:32:47] Speaker 15: cell phones will be you know, looked at. Subpoenas that
[1:32:50] Speaker 15: are all of that should happen. We should have a
[1:32:52] Speaker 15: record not just of the you know parent social media.
[1:32:56] Speaker 15: The parents weren't there, so that's likely irrelevant, but the
[1:32:59] Speaker 15: choose or in social media is absolutely relevant. So if
[1:33:03] Speaker 15: they eliminate their social media accounts, I think that's a
[1:33:06] Speaker 15: worst of a different color. I hope that we're all
[1:33:08] Speaker 15: seizing that information, that evidence right now. We need to
[1:33:12] Speaker 15: know everything that happened on that island, proceeding to it,
[1:33:16] Speaker 15: and importantly after after what did they say about that situation?
[1:33:21] Speaker 15: Did they try to coordinate their stories? All of that
[1:33:24] Speaker 15: is information we need, both from the friends that he
[1:33:27] Speaker 15: went there with, the so called friends that he was
[1:33:30] Speaker 15: remaining with, the girl that he was with, all of
[1:33:34] Speaker 15: those people. I know they're being investigated now, that's the
[1:33:37] Speaker 15: information that I'm looking for. The mother who happens to
[1:33:41] Speaker 15: be a judge, I feel as a red herring and
[1:33:43] Speaker 15: I'm just not going to go down that rabbit hole.
[1:33:45] Speaker 15: I think the main goal is are we making sure
[1:33:48] Speaker 15: the investigators, the sheriff. Are they doing a thorough investigation
[1:33:52] Speaker 15: and are they being interfered with in any way, shape
[1:33:55] Speaker 15: or form, And that investigation isn't happening quickly. That's what
[1:33:59] Speaker 15: we want to know.
[1:33:59] Speaker 5: And what do his.
[1:34:00] Speaker 15: Parents say about their engagement with the cops. Those are
[1:34:03] Speaker 15: the things that I'm looking for.
[1:34:06] Speaker 3: Well, we will continue to cover this case. Kind of
[1:34:09] Speaker 3: go to break, we come back. Republicans love talking about
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[1:36:02] Speaker 3: Fos Crusade mcafire brand Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who
[1:36:05] Speaker 3: built a career hunting down so called voter fraud. They
[1:36:09] Speaker 3: have committed some of his own six times the sixty
[1:36:13] Speaker 3: three year old is the combat convict in chiefs pick
[1:36:16] Speaker 3: for the United States Senate CD beat of course, incumbent
[1:36:20] Speaker 3: John Corner Well Packson appears to have cast ballots in
[1:36:23] Speaker 3: sixty elections over the past two years, usually an address
[1:36:26] Speaker 3: where he no longer lives. Since February, Paxson has voted
[1:36:30] Speaker 3: twice in Collin County, once in the March Republican primary
[1:36:33] Speaker 3: and once in May's runoff, in which he won the
[1:36:35] Speaker 3: GP nomination. Packs his own office wrote the rules he
[1:36:38] Speaker 3: appears to have broken. Just two weeks before the primary.
[1:36:41] Speaker 3: This year's primary, he unveiled a voter fraud tip line,
[1:36:44] Speaker 3: thinking that quote, it is illegal to misrepresent your residence
[1:36:47] Speaker 3: on election records.
[1:36:48] Speaker 2: The alleged offenses not minor.
[1:36:50] Speaker 3: Voting while ineligible is a second degree fellaye In Texas.
[1:36:53] Speaker 3: The crime is punsable by up to twenty years in
[1:36:55] Speaker 3: prison and a ten thousand dollars fine.
[1:36:57] Speaker 2: I see the court.
[1:36:57] Speaker 3: This is quite interesting because the district attorney, who's up
[1:37:02] Speaker 3: for reelection, who we need to be voting out black
[1:37:05] Speaker 3: people usould be mobilizing your ass off in Aran County.
[1:37:09] Speaker 3: Nine years later, this man is still trying to put
[1:37:11] Speaker 3: Crystal Mason in prison. For voting in any election where
[1:37:15] Speaker 3: her vote was not even counted. That's what's going on.
[1:37:19] Speaker 3: But we can show numerous examples. We could just run
[1:37:22] Speaker 3: a whole list of examples, Robert, of Republicans breaking voting
[1:37:28] Speaker 3: laws while complaining about voter fraud.
[1:37:34] Speaker 6: Look, this is we talked about earlier with Trump. Whenever
[1:37:37] Speaker 6: they are talking about something, they are telling on themselves.
[1:37:40] Speaker 6: And they're talking about voter fraud, they're committing voter fraud.
[1:37:43] Speaker 6: And they're talking about welfare queens, they're stealing a whole
[1:37:46] Speaker 6: bunch of money and heading there on their welfare queens.
[1:37:48] Speaker 6: They're talking about corruption, they're the corrupt ones. They do
[1:37:50] Speaker 6: this great thing you talked about a little bit earlier,
[1:37:52] Speaker 6: and I think we have to dive into it. The
[1:37:54] Speaker 6: fact that Republicans are so much better with messaging, message, discipline,
[1:37:58] Speaker 6: and also continually to puts it out there.
[1:38:00] Speaker 1: Ronald Trump has shown us the blueprint.
[1:38:02] Speaker 6: If you say anything often enough, people will just roll
[1:38:05] Speaker 6: with it. We know that the election in twenty twenty
[1:38:08] Speaker 6: was stolen, but if you say it every single day
[1:38:10] Speaker 6: for six years, people will start believing it. We all
[1:38:13] Speaker 6: know that the economic numbers are cooked, but even just
[1:38:16] Speaker 6: today at NATO. He was talking about how great the
[1:38:18] Speaker 6: US economy was. We know that Donald Trump lost the
[1:38:21] Speaker 6: war in Iran and had the surrender to the Iahtola.
[1:38:23] Speaker 6: Today he was talking to if he won. They think
[1:38:25] Speaker 6: about Republicans is they have figured out how to run
[1:38:28] Speaker 6: politics without shame. There's no sense of moral there's no
[1:38:33] Speaker 6: floor to what they will do, and because of that,
[1:38:35] Speaker 6: you have to treat them as such. They are one
[1:38:38] Speaker 6: hundred percent nihilistic. They are one hundred percent results driven,
[1:38:42] Speaker 6: and as you've seen, they are fighting for sheer and
[1:38:44] Speaker 6: unbridled power and it does not matter how they get there.
[1:38:48] Speaker 6: So they don't care if they have to lie, steal, cheat,
[1:38:51] Speaker 6: hook or crook. They will do what it takes to win.
[1:38:53] Speaker 6: And when you're fighting somebody like that, you can either
[1:38:56] Speaker 6: do the shoe Obama and say when they go low,
[1:38:58] Speaker 6: we go high, or you can simply say we are
[1:39:01] Speaker 6: in a brass knuckle knife fight, and I gotta take
[1:39:03] Speaker 6: my shirt off and scooting around my head like a
[1:39:05] Speaker 6: helicopter because it's time to get in here and make
[1:39:07] Speaker 6: sure we make things happen. And I think we might
[1:39:09] Speaker 6: be into the knife fighter point of politics. When you're
[1:39:11] Speaker 6: dealing people at Kim Patston, Donald Trump, and people who
[1:39:14] Speaker 6: are literally willing to say and do anything to maintain
[1:39:17] Speaker 6: political power.
[1:39:19] Speaker 1: Joy.
[1:39:20] Speaker 15: That is absolutely correct. I mean we are in a
[1:39:25] Speaker 15: literally a gunfight. We cannot bring biodegradable scraws. We have
[1:39:29] Speaker 15: got to show up in full force, using every commentary
[1:39:35] Speaker 15: pathway at our disposal. This is a man who's talked
[1:39:40] Speaker 15: about voter fraud. Is committee voter fraud. This is a
[1:39:42] Speaker 15: man who talked about family values. He's not divorced, he's
[1:39:46] Speaker 15: out and about everywhere on social media with his mistress.
[1:39:50] Speaker 15: This is a woman whose wife doesn't even want to
[1:39:52] Speaker 15: have anything to do with him. This is an unacceptable person.
[1:39:56] Speaker 15: He is not fit for the United States Senate. So
[1:39:59] Speaker 15: just as we're talking about, you know, our guy in Maine,
[1:40:04] Speaker 15: we also have to be talking about him. These are
[1:40:06] Speaker 15: people who are low lives and they don't deserve the
[1:40:11] Speaker 15: distinction of being a United States Senator. And we have
[1:40:14] Speaker 15: to be able to say it. And so, even as
[1:40:16] Speaker 15: we may have our issues with some things surrounding James Tallerco,
[1:40:20] Speaker 15: we do have to shift off talking about him and
[1:40:23] Speaker 15: start talking about Paxton. I have not heard enough from
[1:40:28] Speaker 15: mister tall Rico in terms of his fight against Paxton.
[1:40:33] Speaker 15: It's still too polite, it's still too kind of Look,
[1:40:35] Speaker 15: I'm polite and kind, I'm all for it, but we
[1:40:37] Speaker 15: can't do that here. We cannot do that here. And
[1:40:40] Speaker 15: it's not Jasmine Crockett's responsibility to do it. It is
[1:40:44] Speaker 15: mister tall Rico's responsibility to do it. Everything. Everyone in Texas,
[1:40:50] Speaker 15: who is you know, in an authority position within the
[1:40:54] Speaker 15: Democratic Party where is the fight is just too polite.
[1:40:58] Speaker 15: This man is making a fool out of us and frankly,
[1:41:02] Speaker 15: the voters of Texas and the Republican voters of Texas
[1:41:04] Speaker 15: because he is saying it doesn't matter how disgusting I am,
[1:41:08] Speaker 15: I know you'll vote for me anyway. And frankly, John Cornyn,
[1:41:12] Speaker 15: where are you? You know who this man is. You
[1:41:16] Speaker 15: should be saying something too, but instead you're going to
[1:41:18] Speaker 15: support him. That is what we ought.
[1:41:20] Speaker 5: To be holding it accountable, Rebecca, I mean, this is corruption.
[1:41:25] Speaker 5: We keep talking about why people don't want to vote,
[1:41:28] Speaker 5: and we know that what is it? Over eighty million
[1:41:31] Speaker 5: people chose not to vote, over eighty million people who
[1:41:34] Speaker 5: are eligible, and shows it wasn't worth it. It's because
[1:41:37] Speaker 5: of things like this. You literally have someone who is
[1:41:40] Speaker 5: doing corrupt things, who was in charge of making sure
[1:41:43] Speaker 5: of enforcing laws in Texas, who created specific laws in Texas,
[1:41:49] Speaker 5: or who pushed for specific laws in Texas, especially around
[1:41:52] Speaker 5: voting rights, and then there's in violation of them. That's corruption.
[1:41:56] Speaker 5: That's why many folks choose not to vote in this
[1:42:00] Speaker 5: country because they see elected officials like this. So too,
[1:42:04] Speaker 5: Joyce points, should Corny say something. Yes, It shouldn't just
[1:42:07] Speaker 5: be Democratic elected officials or Democratic candidates speak out against this,
[1:42:12] Speaker 5: but it has to be people who are elected officials period,
[1:42:16] Speaker 5: regardless of pop of party, to say, hey, this is wrong,
[1:42:20] Speaker 5: this is corrupt.
[1:42:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not gonna say that.
[1:42:26] Speaker 5: No, because of white power.
[1:42:27] Speaker 3: Not gonna say it. They're whims, folks. The federal judges
[1:42:30] Speaker 3: ordered to release more than five million dollars to former
[1:42:33] Speaker 3: magazine commons e g. And Carroll after a jury found they,
[1:42:36] Speaker 3: after twice impeach criminally convicted Felam and Chief Donald the
[1:42:39] Speaker 3: con Trump sexually abused and defamed her. The ruling follows
[1:42:42] Speaker 3: Trump's appeal of the decision the Supreme Court. They're like,
[1:42:45] Speaker 3: now they're not they're gonna not gonna look at it.
[1:42:47] Speaker 3: And now now they said, let's reconsider. They got twenty
[1:42:50] Speaker 3: five days to make a decision.
[1:42:51] Speaker 2: But guess what.
[1:42:52] Speaker 3: Trump argued that paying the judgement before his appeal is resolved,
[1:42:55] Speaker 3: what cause him irreparable harm? However, the judge is like, no, no, no,
[1:43:00] Speaker 3: oh no, son, the justice did not your request, allowing
[1:43:03] Speaker 3: Caroll's attorney to seek the release other funds. That money
[1:43:05] Speaker 3: had been set aside in the court, so it already
[1:43:08] Speaker 3: be in. The five million already been given. Is one
[1:43:10] Speaker 3: of two lawsuits Carrol filed against Trump concerning statements he
[1:43:13] Speaker 3: made in twenty twenty two. Trump was also indicated plans
[1:43:16] Speaker 3: to challenge as a separate eighty three million let me
[1:43:20] Speaker 3: see it again, eighty three million dollar defamation judgment awarded
[1:43:25] Speaker 3: to Carrol. He does until the end of the month
[1:43:26] Speaker 3: to file that appeal to the Supreme Court. She whooping
[1:43:29] Speaker 3: an ass in court, joy.
[1:43:33] Speaker 4: Whooping it.
[1:43:34] Speaker 15: I mean, she is fantastic, And then Democrats pay attention.
[1:43:39] Speaker 15: She doesn't just win in court. She then goes on TV.
[1:43:42] Speaker 15: She messages it, she locks it in, She locks it
[1:43:46] Speaker 15: in on him. She appeals to people and says, this
[1:43:49] Speaker 15: is why I'm doing what I'm doing. This is what
[1:43:52] Speaker 15: he does. That did to me, she doesn't allow him
[1:43:55] Speaker 15: to escape and to let it go away. This is
[1:43:59] Speaker 15: the point. This is the strategy. Not just the wind,
[1:44:03] Speaker 15: then message the wind, then hone it in on the wind.
[1:44:07] Speaker 15: And she's actually very music. I've done some things with
[1:44:09] Speaker 15: her before. She's a lot of personality. So you know,
[1:44:13] Speaker 15: a great great post spokesperson, meeting him where he is.
[1:44:17] Speaker 15: That is what we have to do. And I mean
[1:44:21] Speaker 15: they think that because he is so easily triggered. She
[1:44:26] Speaker 15: understands her role and remaining out there and continuing to
[1:44:30] Speaker 15: be sort of a thorn in his side, and she
[1:44:33] Speaker 15: takes heat for it. I mean it's not easy. She
[1:44:36] Speaker 15: could easily go away and want to you know, received
[1:44:39] Speaker 15: back into public life, but she takes seriously her job
[1:44:42] Speaker 15: to do this, to be out there and to keep
[1:44:45] Speaker 15: him distracted, continuing to fight her and to lose over
[1:44:49] Speaker 15: and over and over again.
[1:44:51] Speaker 3: But mine is he sues everybody, Rebecca, so she's like,
[1:44:54] Speaker 3: I'm suo as.
[1:44:57] Speaker 5: And good for her. She should have added a zero to
[1:44:59] Speaker 5: the out that should have been worth a lot more
[1:45:03] Speaker 5: than five million.
[1:45:03] Speaker 4: Good for her.
[1:45:04] Speaker 5: But like you said, this should be a playbook. It
[1:45:06] Speaker 5: should be strategy of you can go after him, and
[1:45:11] Speaker 5: you could beat him in courts. That's one of the
[1:45:14] Speaker 5: things that we're seeing in terms of even challenging some
[1:45:17] Speaker 5: of the things that the administration is doing is go
[1:45:19] Speaker 5: after man court because many of his I don't know
[1:45:22] Speaker 5: who his lawyers are, but they don't have a pretty
[1:45:24] Speaker 5: they don't have a good track record, So good for her.
[1:45:27] Speaker 5: I wish it was more money for Robert.
[1:45:31] Speaker 6: I think we're also just glossing over a very real
[1:45:35] Speaker 6: thing here, which is the fact that the President of
[1:45:38] Speaker 6: the United States is a rapist. I mean, it's been
[1:45:42] Speaker 6: a judicated time and time again. We've had nearly thirty
[1:45:46] Speaker 6: credible accounts of him either except to harassing, committing exceptual assault,
[1:45:51] Speaker 6: or just all out rape. In the Eging Carol case,
[1:45:54] Speaker 6: the judge said his actions constituted rape. For the purpose
[1:45:58] Speaker 6: of this case, I mean, we have Stormy Daniels, who
[1:46:01] Speaker 6: have Susan McDougal, we have a literal sets worker in
[1:46:05] Speaker 6: the White House as First Lady right now, and Christian
[1:46:08] Speaker 6: conservatives coming to lecture us about family values. So the
[1:46:12] Speaker 6: fact that our nation has fallen to the point that
[1:46:14] Speaker 6: you can have a someone that we know is a
[1:46:17] Speaker 6: rapist and old is a woman five million dollars for
[1:46:20] Speaker 6: raping her and then another eighty three million dollars for
[1:46:22] Speaker 6: defaming her after raping her. That then Supreme Court held
[1:46:26] Speaker 6: up the defamation the ad judgment against him for raping her.
[1:46:29] Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter.
[1:46:31] Speaker 6: Lebron James free agency is getting more attention than Donald
[1:46:34] Speaker 6: Trump being a rapist. I mean, we're putting more emphasis
[1:46:37] Speaker 6: on the fee for World Cup and whether or not
[1:46:39] Speaker 6: Argentina cheated to beat Egypt, then whether or not the
[1:46:42] Speaker 6: President of the United States, who's in charge of the
[1:46:45] Speaker 6: most powerful military and economy of the world, is a
[1:46:47] Speaker 6: literal rapist. And we're not hearing any conversations about this
[1:46:52] Speaker 6: on a national level. And that's why it's very hard
[1:46:54] Speaker 6: when we have a grand plantner running for office. It's like,
[1:46:58] Speaker 6: why are Democrats and the ones who have to step down,
[1:47:01] Speaker 6: who have to run away, who have to stop what
[1:47:03] Speaker 6: they're doing at Donald trumpets to skate by Kia Stammer.
[1:47:06] Speaker 6: The Prime Minister of the UK had to step down
[1:47:09] Speaker 6: because he appointed somebody who's on the Epstein list. Donald
[1:47:12] Speaker 6: Trump's all over the Epstein list. He ain't even considered
[1:47:14] Speaker 6: stepping down, So we have to evaluate what exactly it
[1:47:17] Speaker 6: means as a country that nobody will stand up to
[1:47:20] Speaker 6: somebody who is incredibly accused twenty seven plus times eceptual assault,
[1:47:25] Speaker 6: who would have been held up by the Supreme Court
[1:47:27] Speaker 6: as being a rapist and appears in the Epstein files
[1:47:30] Speaker 6: more than anybody except Jeffrey Epstein. We have to figure
[1:47:32] Speaker 6: out why this is acceptable as a country.
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[1:49:45] Speaker 3: For the Treasury Department is scrapping plans to feature Harriet
[1:49:48] Speaker 3: Tubmany on the twenty dollars bill and to reach an
[1:49:50] Speaker 3: interview with Spectrum News trailer Secretary of Scott descent explain
[1:49:54] Speaker 3: why Treasury is.
[1:49:55] Speaker 21: Still planning to put Harriet Tubman on the twenty dollars bill.
[1:50:00] Speaker 21: We are not at present, and can you explain? I
[1:50:03] Speaker 21: guess the difference. I was at your briefing, I think
[1:50:05] Speaker 21: a month or two ago when you held up the
[1:50:07] Speaker 21: two hundred and fifty dollars bill with the president. Why
[1:50:09] Speaker 21: are those on different tracks?
[1:50:10] Speaker 22: Well, of course the two First of all, the two
[1:50:12] Speaker 22: hundred and fifty requires an Act of Congress because you
[1:50:15] Speaker 22: can't have a living person, and it was to commit
[1:50:18] Speaker 22: for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. For us to
[1:50:22] Speaker 22: change on an existing bill, whether it's a one through
[1:50:25] Speaker 22: one hundred, takes many years in events.
[1:50:28] Speaker 3: Well, so how Cong's women Joyce Baty released the statement
[1:50:31] Speaker 3: regarding this decision. She said, in all my years, I've
[1:50:34] Speaker 3: never seen an administration so he'll bit on erasing black
[1:50:36] Speaker 3: excellence from American history. Harry Tubman was an American hero.
[1:50:40] Speaker 3: She risked her life for freedom and shaped our nation.
[1:50:43] Speaker 3: We're seeing another attack on black history and the generations
[1:50:45] Speaker 3: of Black Americans whose courage built this country. This is
[1:50:49] Speaker 3: the same playbook from removing the portrait of the first
[1:50:52] Speaker 3: black four star General Daniel Chappie James Junior, to attempts
[1:50:56] Speaker 3: to raise the history of slavery from our national parks.
[1:51:00] Speaker 3: We cannot rewrite history, and we cannot ignore it. We
[1:51:02] Speaker 3: must confront our history, learn from it, and ensure we
[1:51:07] Speaker 3: never repeat its darkest chapters.
[1:51:09] Speaker 2: I fought for years.
[1:51:11] Speaker 3: Through my woman on the twenty Act to ensure our
[1:51:14] Speaker 3: nation's currency reflects the full story of America.
[1:51:17] Speaker 2: My fight doesn't end today.
[1:51:19] Speaker 3: Donald Trump may try to delay progress, but he cannot
[1:51:21] Speaker 3: stop it.
[1:51:22] Speaker 2: Harrit Tubmans place in the American stories.
[1:51:24] Speaker 3: Permanent, and I will fight with every breath unto her
[1:51:26] Speaker 3: face on a twenty dollar bill. This is just the continuation,
[1:51:31] Speaker 3: as I keep saying, Rebecca, of their war on Black America.
[1:51:38] Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, Like if they're saying that we don't have
[1:51:42] Speaker 5: enough time to make this change, wasn't this sober ten
[1:51:45] Speaker 5: years ago in the making. So isn't ten years more
[1:51:48] Speaker 5: than enough time to make this particular change.
[1:51:54] Speaker 2: Good Rebecca, I'm sorry. Are you finished? I know you
[1:51:59] Speaker 2: were finished.
[1:51:59] Speaker 4: Go ahead, yep, I'm finished.
[1:52:02] Speaker 5: My point is, Look, they had ten years. There's been
[1:52:04] Speaker 5: ten years in order to make this change, and for
[1:52:07] Speaker 5: the Treasury Secretary to say, oh, that's not enough time,
[1:52:10] Speaker 5: that's ridiculous. I mean, at the end of this, at
[1:52:13] Speaker 5: the end of the day, we get it. It's a
[1:52:15] Speaker 5: white supremacy. They were at their last graphs of white supremacy.
[1:52:19] Speaker 5: When it's done, when it's over, we're going to rectify
[1:52:22] Speaker 5: everything that needs to be rectified in this country.
[1:52:24] Speaker 4: But this is crazy, Robert.
[1:52:28] Speaker 6: You know at this point in time because I was
[1:52:30] Speaker 6: on the hill when President Trump what was the first
[1:52:34] Speaker 6: thing they did. I was on the hill when they
[1:52:35] Speaker 6: took Jackie Robinson out of the US Military Museum. We
[1:52:41] Speaker 6: were there when we saw them attacking the Smithsonian Museum
[1:52:43] Speaker 6: of African American History. We've seen them try to remove
[1:52:47] Speaker 6: the names of African Americans and any achievements in US history,
[1:52:52] Speaker 6: calling it woke ideology. We've seen them renamed basis that
[1:52:55] Speaker 6: were previously named for Confederate generals, and it has found
[1:52:58] Speaker 6: a workaround to give them the name, but take away
[1:53:00] Speaker 6: the name of the Confederates who were behind it.
[1:53:02] Speaker 1: At what point in time we just.
[1:53:04] Speaker 6: Say, if it walks like a duck, if it talks
[1:53:06] Speaker 6: like a duck, if it swims like a duck, is
[1:53:09] Speaker 6: a racist. And this there's no point in trying to
[1:53:12] Speaker 6: call out the hypocrisy among these things. You're not going
[1:53:15] Speaker 6: to change the hearts and minds of white supremacists. We've
[1:53:18] Speaker 6: been trying to do it for two hundred years in
[1:53:19] Speaker 6: this country. They just keep regenerating. We remember about twenty
[1:53:23] Speaker 6: years ago, I think Oprah said, you know, America won't
[1:53:26] Speaker 6: change it toil a lot of old racists die out. No,
[1:53:29] Speaker 6: all that happens is a new generation gets reradicalized. You
[1:53:31] Speaker 6: have a generation of Groyper's and trialboys, et cetera, just
[1:53:35] Speaker 6: to replant us to stocks. So what we need to
[1:53:38] Speaker 6: make sure of right now is instead of fighting back
[1:53:40] Speaker 6: against what they do, point by point, a step by step,
[1:53:43] Speaker 6: ensure that if we tape that the House in twenty
[1:53:45] Speaker 6: twenty six, and we take that the Senate, and we
[1:53:47] Speaker 6: take that the White House in twenty eight, that is
[1:53:49] Speaker 6: the minute that Democratic president sits down on the desk
[1:53:53] Speaker 6: on January the twentieth, twenty twenty nine, we have a
[1:53:57] Speaker 6: stack of black legislation that we want signed into law immediately.
[1:54:01] Speaker 6: The same with the President Trump that his first one
[1:54:03] Speaker 6: hundred days. I need a different piece of black legislation
[1:54:05] Speaker 6: signed two times a day for one hundred days and
[1:54:08] Speaker 6: passed directly through the Congress, no questions asked. I don't
[1:54:10] Speaker 6: want to hear anything about a bipartisan committee.
[1:54:13] Speaker 1: Et cetera.
[1:54:13] Speaker 6: Because until we put these things into law, unassailable, unrepealable
[1:54:17] Speaker 6: except for vide Act of Congress, we will keep seeing
[1:54:20] Speaker 6: these things happen, and we will be erased from history.
[1:54:24] Speaker 15: Joy, That's absolutely right. Sometimes I'm like Scott Besson. You're
[1:54:29] Speaker 15: a minority in this administration. They hate you almost as
[1:54:34] Speaker 15: much as they hate the rest of us. You ought
[1:54:35] Speaker 15: to be shamed of yourself continuing to co sign on
[1:54:38] Speaker 15: their foolishness. The real question we ought to be asking
[1:54:41] Speaker 15: for him is what is he doing to ensure full
[1:54:45] Speaker 15: employment of all of our citizens, including black women. That
[1:54:49] Speaker 15: was the question he got when he testified on the Hill,
[1:54:52] Speaker 15: and he said he was going to be following up.
[1:54:54] Speaker 15: I believe it was that on a Presley who asked
[1:54:56] Speaker 15: him that question. He said he was going to be
[1:54:57] Speaker 15: following up. I have not heard the follow up up. Okay,
[1:55:01] Speaker 15: I have not heard the follow up. Last time, I
[1:55:02] Speaker 15: Ordy's talking about black women. He's talking about not putting
[1:55:06] Speaker 15: Terriet Tubman on the twenty dollar bill. This is a
[1:55:08] Speaker 15: relatively small issue, symbolically large, but you know, in terms
[1:55:12] Speaker 15: of the lives of people, so I want to acknowledge that.
[1:55:14] Speaker 15: But this is why we have to vote. If you
[1:55:16] Speaker 15: care about this, or if you care about full employment,
[1:55:19] Speaker 15: or if you care about paid leave or all of
[1:55:21] Speaker 15: the black bills that Bob Robert has said that we need,
[1:55:25] Speaker 15: you have to win, and in order to win, you
[1:55:28] Speaker 15: got to have people vote in November. It's the same
[1:55:31] Speaker 15: thing we've been talking about. They are never going to
[1:55:35] Speaker 15: give us anything, and when we get it back, we
[1:55:37] Speaker 15: have to get things done. Some of these things we
[1:55:39] Speaker 15: could have already had been done right.
[1:55:42] Speaker 3: Well, bomb line is if elections out, they help us
[1:55:45] Speaker 3: of the consequences. Joy Robert Beckas really appreciate y'all being
[1:55:49] Speaker 3: on today's show.
[1:55:50] Speaker 2: Thank you so very much, folks.
[1:55:52] Speaker 3: On Monday, Bishop William Barber repairs of the breach continued
[1:55:55] Speaker 3: having their moral mondays here in Washington, DC. Here's some
[1:55:58] Speaker 3: of what Bishop Barbara had to say.
[1:56:02] Speaker 23: Why we do what we do and this rest to
[1:56:04] Speaker 23: this call to action. I first want you to look
[1:56:07] Speaker 23: at the person besides you hold that for me and
[1:56:09] Speaker 23: just thank them for being here. I want you to
[1:56:12] Speaker 23: thank them for being here. And then with live stream up,
[1:56:18] Speaker 23: I want you to look around and think about who's
[1:56:22] Speaker 23: not here all right? And I want us, if we're
[1:56:27] Speaker 23: going to be prophetic, to do like Isaiah and say, Lord,
[1:56:35] Speaker 23: we live in the midst of a people with unclean lips.
[1:56:39] Speaker 1: We need to repent.
[1:56:43] Speaker 23: I went to Germany, I told you all the preach,
[1:56:47] Speaker 23: and I asked the folk in Germany about what was
[1:56:50] Speaker 23: going on and.
[1:56:53] Speaker 1: Did they like it?
[1:56:54] Speaker 23: And they had one word nine nine nine nine wow.
[1:56:58] Speaker 23: I asked them, did they want this president back since
[1:57:01] Speaker 23: he had nine nine nine one?
[1:57:03] Speaker 1: Lady said nine.
[1:57:05] Speaker 8: Sure.
[1:57:07] Speaker 23: But then I asked them, well, they asked me, why
[1:57:13] Speaker 23: is the church so quiet? Don't y'all know where this
[1:57:19] Speaker 23: can end up? Yeah, So they took me.
[1:57:22] Speaker 1: On a tour.
[1:57:25] Speaker 23: Where you can see a building and it's part of
[1:57:28] Speaker 23: it's new and part of it's old. Which is a
[1:57:30] Speaker 23: symbol that that was building was bombed.
[1:57:33] Speaker 15: Mm.
[1:57:36] Speaker 23: They took me to Berlin's Holocaust. That's a maze. It
[1:57:43] Speaker 23: looks like just pits of cement. You get lost in
[1:57:47] Speaker 23: a maze hm. And they took me to an affluent
[1:57:52] Speaker 23: community that hid the train tracks hm where they brought
[1:57:58] Speaker 23: in people wow and down on the train tracks. It
[1:58:03] Speaker 23: had the number Ostrich's thirties on so on forty and
[1:58:10] Speaker 23: they shared with me that this occurred because so many
[1:58:13] Speaker 23: people chose to be quiet mm hm. They took me
[1:58:19] Speaker 23: to the church that after Hitler became chancellor, had.
[1:58:26] Speaker 1: A communion service.
[1:58:29] Speaker 23: In honor of him, right wow. The church, the authorized church,
[1:58:36] Speaker 23: the German Church. And they took me to look at
[1:58:44] Speaker 23: pictures where the problem with Hitler didn't start in the thirties.
[1:58:48] Speaker 23: It started in the eighteen eighties when the first the
[1:58:52] Speaker 23: decision was made to redraw Jesus MM.
[1:58:57] Speaker 1: To make him look Aryan.
[1:58:59] Speaker 23: Yeah, so that then they could revision the story and
[1:59:05] Speaker 23: say it was Jews that killed the white Aryan Jesus MM.
[1:59:11] Speaker 1: And this was long before Hitler.
[1:59:15] Speaker 23: They took me to the place where even the confessing
[1:59:19] Speaker 23: church m.
[1:59:20] Speaker 1: We know the names Bart.
[1:59:23] Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, Bon Haffer at first didn't disagree with Hitler's
[1:59:33] Speaker 23: violence toward the Jews. They just wanted they wanted to
[1:59:36] Speaker 23: argue with the German Church over doctrine, not public policy.
[1:59:43] Speaker 23: And bon Hoffer, who really says that he came to
[1:59:49] Speaker 23: really know Jesus when he went to Abyssinian Church in
[1:59:51] Speaker 23: Harlem and he heard Adam Clayton Powell preaching nothing but
[1:59:56] Speaker 23: the red letters of the Bible. Okay, yeah, And he
[1:59:59] Speaker 23: heard gospel music, and he heard the poetry of the
[2:00:01] Speaker 23: Harlem Renaissance. And it was out of that he said,
[2:00:03] Speaker 23: I had he had to go back to Germany and
[2:00:06] Speaker 23: challenge the Confessing Church MM to be stronger, okay and clearer.
[2:00:14] Speaker 23: You know, my sister just said something was so powerful
[2:00:18] Speaker 23: we will not have spiritual lauryngitis.
[2:00:23] Speaker 1: But we do not, y'all, but think about it.
[2:00:27] Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, And this is not a an attack, it's
[2:00:30] Speaker 23: a wake up call, that's right.
[2:00:32] Speaker 1: Right.
[2:00:33] Speaker 23: How many churches and synagogues in Moscow are there in
[2:00:36] Speaker 23: DC MM in Maryland and Virginia?
[2:00:38] Speaker 11: Oh?
[2:00:40] Speaker 13: Who?
[2:00:40] Speaker 2: Why?
[2:00:42] Speaker 23: Why haven't five hundred pastors three hundred just decided that
[2:00:51] Speaker 23: we're gonna engage in nonviolence civil disobedience. Yeah, every week, right,
[2:00:56] Speaker 23: Who who's stopping him from doing it?
[2:00:59] Speaker 8: A boy?
[2:01:00] Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is, if we're.
[2:01:02] Speaker 23: Not careful while we're here and our purpose here is
[2:01:05] Speaker 23: to be prophetic and to try to call people out,
[2:01:08] Speaker 23: is we do have too much spiritual larngitis in this nation.
[2:01:13] Speaker 23: We also have too much preaching in the safety of
[2:01:18] Speaker 23: Sunday poor pits and Saturday synagogues and Friday Mass. One day,
[2:01:24] Speaker 23: I'll tell y'all some of the things that happened to
[2:01:26] Speaker 23: me because we chose to go over there, and warnings
[2:01:29] Speaker 23: we were given about what to.
[2:01:30] Speaker 1: Say and not to say in the sermon today.
[2:01:37] Speaker 23: And so in some ways, y'all, we are kind of
[2:01:39] Speaker 23: a strange thing. We are remnant, alright, We like John
[2:01:42] Speaker 23: the Baptists crying.
[2:01:43] Speaker 1: Out y uh, and we have.
[2:01:47] Speaker 23: To yeah, And we're not suggesting we're better. But you know,
[2:01:53] Speaker 23: the only victory against against Hitler.
[2:01:56] Speaker 1: I didn't know this.
[2:02:00] Speaker 23: Six hundred women had their husbands taken from them.
[2:02:03] Speaker 1: They were Jewish men.
[2:02:05] Speaker 23: The women were Christian and Jewish and others, and they
[2:02:09] Speaker 23: decided to stand up to Hitler non violently. They went
[2:02:15] Speaker 23: to the place of power, and that word was give
[2:02:19] Speaker 23: us our husbands back. They put submachine guns on them.
[2:02:23] Speaker 23: They dispersed and then came back the next day. And
[2:02:26] Speaker 23: it is the only successful action because after I think
[2:02:30] Speaker 23: thirty days, the Nazis relented and gave them their husband's back.
[2:02:35] Speaker 11: Wow.
[2:02:36] Speaker 1: But the question in Germany about that is what if
[2:02:40] Speaker 1: we had all stood up?
[2:02:42] Speaker 4: Well, that's true.
[2:02:45] Speaker 23: They don't even like you to celebrate the fact that
[2:02:48] Speaker 23: the six hundred stood up. They have a deeper question.
[2:02:51] Speaker 23: They said, what if we all had stood up? Yeah, yeah,
[2:02:55] Speaker 23: then maybe we wouldn't have seen not six million, but
[2:02:58] Speaker 23: eleven million. Mm. That's another thing we rap we learned
[2:03:02] Speaker 23: about the numbers are wrong, just like the numbers about
[2:03:04] Speaker 23: slave It wasn't no, it was a hundred million.
[2:03:06] Speaker 13: Right.
[2:03:06] Speaker 23: If you look at all the people that were lost
[2:03:08] Speaker 23: in the Middle Passage and thrown to the shocks between Africa,
[2:03:11] Speaker 23: the Caribbeans and here. And when I was there, some
[2:03:16] Speaker 23: of them said, we just pray that the church, people
[2:03:22] Speaker 23: of faith, and as we say, people who may not
[2:03:24] Speaker 23: be a fapor who have a deep moral conscious.
[2:03:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, don't wait too long or.
[2:03:31] Speaker 23: Don't just think if I do a nice litany about it,
[2:03:36] Speaker 23: I have.
[2:03:36] Speaker 1: Done my service in this moment. So August third, all right.
[2:03:44] Speaker 23: You heard Reverend Jackson kind of tease out the table
[2:03:47] Speaker 23: of democracy we gonna taste. I'm I'm I'm really asking
[2:03:50] Speaker 23: our last one here August third, that everybody, what if
[2:03:55] Speaker 23: we could get just fifty churches that said they'll send
[2:03:59] Speaker 23: fifty members and the other Mondays around the country. But
[2:04:05] Speaker 23: on August third, we are going to have a conclusion
[2:04:11] Speaker 23: of this part of Smorrow Monday. And why did we
[2:04:15] Speaker 23: start in DC? Not just to be in DC? Because
[2:04:16] Speaker 23: DC is getting attacked and they can't even vote. They
[2:04:19] Speaker 23: don't even get to vote on the people that's messing
[2:04:21] Speaker 23: with them. They get sit in the war and can't
[2:04:24] Speaker 23: even vote on the people that's sending them right, taxation
[2:04:28] Speaker 23: without representation. So our intention was never to stay in DC.
[2:04:31] Speaker 23: It was to come and do what the scripture said
[2:04:34] Speaker 23: jere My twin to go down to the palace. We're
[2:04:37] Speaker 23: required to do that and say these things, whether they
[2:04:40] Speaker 23: listen or not. But you know, August third, we want
[2:04:43] Speaker 23: to have a large day of repentance and call to action,
[2:04:50] Speaker 23: and we've asked some denominational leaders and of different faith
[2:04:54] Speaker 23: to come and we announced that it's time to go
[2:04:57] Speaker 23: home to the state. We really don't need to have
[2:05:04] Speaker 23: a march on Washington. We need to have a march
[2:05:06] Speaker 23: on the polls in the States because that's where the
[2:05:11] Speaker 23: battle is. And we need to encourage that. We don't
[2:05:16] Speaker 23: need to put millions of dollars into a one day
[2:05:19] Speaker 23: action in DC. If we got that much money, we
[2:05:22] Speaker 23: need to be giving it to people that's gonna knock
[2:05:24] Speaker 23: on doors and do buses and back in the States.
[2:05:28] Speaker 23: Y'all can say, man ain't no man. And that is
[2:05:30] Speaker 23: not being ugly, that's just knowing history. See, because if
[2:05:34] Speaker 23: you understand, they only marched on Washington one time, and
[2:05:38] Speaker 23: then they did they had a piece of legislation that
[2:05:41] Speaker 23: they were trying to pass.
[2:05:42] Speaker 1: That's right, you don't just march on Washington.
[2:05:46] Speaker 23: And there was six hundred actions going on around the
[2:05:50] Speaker 23: country in sixty three. People had been killed in Birmingham,
[2:05:54] Speaker 23: daughter of that mega. Ever, there was a whole lot
[2:05:57] Speaker 23: of things that were going on.
[2:05:59] Speaker 1: And when the car all was made, by.
[2:06:01] Speaker 23: The way, it was on the same day that Emmitt
[2:06:03] Speaker 23: Till had been killed, August twenty eight, And it was
[2:06:08] Speaker 23: and it was because they knew that Strong Thermon and
[2:06:11] Speaker 23: others were going to put up a filibuster against the
[2:06:16] Speaker 23: piece of legislation that Kennedy had now, but they also
[2:06:19] Speaker 23: knew that they didn't put pressure. Kennedy was gonna say
[2:06:22] Speaker 23: he would do the Civil Rights Act and then back off,
[2:06:25] Speaker 23: and they knew it was gonna be philibuster, and they
[2:06:27] Speaker 23: knew it was gonna be cut. You know, the pil
[2:06:29] Speaker 23: Rights Act was diminished. That's why they had to call
[2:06:31] Speaker 23: for the Voting Rights Act of sixty five because the
[2:06:34] Speaker 23: Civil Rights Act of sixty four was gutted so bad
[2:06:36] Speaker 23: by the time it got the full vote. So the
[2:06:39] Speaker 23: purpose of the march on Washington, which wasn't just black folk,
[2:06:43] Speaker 23: it was black and white and union and labor, was
[2:06:46] Speaker 23: to drive this piece of legislation. It wasn't a fellowship.
[2:06:54] Speaker 23: It had a purpose. It had a vision. Go back
[2:06:56] Speaker 23: and read what helped me say Clinton the right Bayot
[2:07:01] Speaker 23: Bayet Rushton bay at Rusting. I always said Baya, but
[2:07:04] Speaker 23: just by it buy Itt Rusting. And he read the agenda.
[2:07:07] Speaker 23: He said, we want to raise the minimum wage to
[2:07:11] Speaker 23: seventy five cents and index it with inflation, which if
[2:07:14] Speaker 23: they had done that, the minimum wage would be twenty
[2:07:16] Speaker 23: dollars an hour today. That was supposed to be in
[2:07:19] Speaker 23: that Civil rights say, and he went down the list.
[2:07:21] Speaker 23: There was not just a march because they were mad
[2:07:24] Speaker 23: with the president. In fact, they were actually at that
[2:07:25] Speaker 23: time fairly happy with the current president. But they knew
[2:07:29] Speaker 23: they had work to do and they had an agenda,
[2:07:31] Speaker 23: which is why at the end of the speech, which
[2:07:35] Speaker 23: was not named I Have a Dream, the speech was
[2:07:38] Speaker 23: normously never Again.
[2:07:43] Speaker 1: And Julian Bond.
[2:07:44] Speaker 23: Talks about in his book It's Time to Teach, how
[2:07:47] Speaker 23: there was a thing, a deal cut that if some
[2:07:49] Speaker 23: people said the wrong thing, it was a person that
[2:07:51] Speaker 23: was supposed to pull the plug so that the mics
[2:07:53] Speaker 23: wouldn't work, And they cut John Lewis's speech because they
[2:07:56] Speaker 23: said it was too radical. Was the egos almost got
[2:08:01] Speaker 23: in the way, and a Philip Randolph had to calm
[2:08:04] Speaker 23: that down. Originally, the March on Washing supposed have been
[2:08:07] Speaker 23: two days marching around DC around the Capitol became one.
[2:08:11] Speaker 23: The unions got involved, but the speech was normously never Again.
[2:08:17] Speaker 23: There was a march before the march on Washington Detroit
[2:08:22] Speaker 23: where actually that I Have a Dream portion of his
[2:08:23] Speaker 23: speech was much longer than what happened here in DC.
[2:08:27] Speaker 23: I'm teaching because it's an audience to the audience out
[2:08:29] Speaker 23: there and here as well. And at the end, Doctor
[2:08:34] Speaker 23: King said, go back, go read it sometime to Louisiana,
[2:08:41] Speaker 23: go back to Alabama. He also, in his I Have
[2:08:46] Speaker 23: a Dream portion, began to show what was with rhetoric,
[2:08:50] Speaker 23: how the real fight was in the state. He said,
[2:08:53] Speaker 23: down in Alabama with the governess whose lips are dripping with.
[2:08:57] Speaker 1: The words of interposition and nullification.
[2:09:01] Speaker 23: He named that that DC was not a one time
[2:09:06] Speaker 23: it was a specific purpose and to go back because
[2:09:09] Speaker 23: the real battle was a state and it was not
[2:09:11] Speaker 23: an election year. The strategy of the civil rights movement
[2:09:16] Speaker 23: is they never had mass gatherings any election year. An
[2:09:21] Speaker 23: election year, they focused their attention at the states. Right,
[2:09:26] Speaker 23: And so we're here on August third, we're gonna make
[2:09:29] Speaker 23: that clear and we're gonna call for what if we
[2:09:31] Speaker 23: had five hundred through a thousand churches across this country,
[2:09:34] Speaker 23: particularly in battleground station in the South, who and Center,
[2:09:38] Speaker 23: Goods and Mosque and other groups that would all on
[2:09:41] Speaker 23: the first day of early voting lead marches to the pole.
[2:09:43] Speaker 1: What would that look like?
[2:09:46] Speaker 23: And then every day doing early voting, and then on
[2:09:48] Speaker 23: election day they would even do the same thing, go
[2:09:51] Speaker 23: to the States August third, somebody say August third. And
[2:09:58] Speaker 23: the problem with what I just said that that was
[2:10:01] Speaker 23: the spirit saying say that none of that's written. But
[2:10:06] Speaker 23: my brothers and sisters that are listening to us, and
[2:10:12] Speaker 23: what I like to call my siblings of conscience, were
[2:10:16] Speaker 23: here this Smorrow, Monday. And why are we here because
[2:10:19] Speaker 23: of the craziness that went on Sunday, all of that
[2:10:21] Speaker 23: unnecessary fireworks that has the ass so bad that people
[2:10:28] Speaker 23: with heart diseases and asthma and even people that are
[2:10:30] Speaker 23: doing all right were told to stay inside. And we're here,
[2:10:35] Speaker 23: if you will, on the high ground of justice. And
[2:10:39] Speaker 23: we're here because we refuse to accept people telling us
[2:10:44] Speaker 23: that poverty is personal failure, and that the lack of
[2:10:49] Speaker 23: health care is a luxury, and that the suppression if
[2:10:53] Speaker 23: you haven't tissue, suppression of our vote is standard politics.
[2:10:59] Speaker 1: Part of the problem we have my brothers and sisters
[2:11:01] Speaker 1: in this country.
[2:11:02] Speaker 23: Right now with MAGA and with Trump and with those
[2:11:04] Speaker 23: who are following him, is they believe that the country
[2:11:09] Speaker 23: was perfect at its beginning and the amendments to the
[2:11:13] Speaker 23: Constitution made it less perfect, and they want to go
[2:11:21] Speaker 23: back to someholy, immoral vision of a past perfection. And
[2:11:28] Speaker 23: if we don't understand that, we don't understand the real
[2:11:30] Speaker 23: battle that's going on. Right and we're here to represent
[2:11:34] Speaker 23: amorrow movement. We serve a higher law that demands us
[2:11:38] Speaker 23: that we stand up. Somebody said it for the poor
[2:11:41] Speaker 23: to marginalize the immigrants, the forgotten. And we've got to
[2:11:45] Speaker 23: look at our nation constantly through this lens of moral truth.
[2:11:49] Speaker 23: And we've got to look at the deep, painful contradictions
[2:11:53] Speaker 23: being played out, particularly in our state capitals across this
[2:11:59] Speaker 23: country by those elected in states, and the fact that
[2:12:05] Speaker 23: most of them can go to church on Sunday, or
[2:12:08] Speaker 23: go to synagogue on Saturday, or go to uh mosque
[2:12:13] Speaker 23: on Friday and not be troubled.
[2:12:15] Speaker 1: I'm on, I'm on a street HM, and not be
[2:12:20] Speaker 1: troubled by what's priest?
[2:12:21] Speaker 2: HM.
[2:12:24] Speaker 1: Did you see Sunday.
[2:12:27] Speaker 23: This massive display of wealth HM. The theater, the l
[2:12:33] Speaker 23: eight hundred and fifty thousand fireworks. HM.
[2:12:38] Speaker 1: He believed at Alvin wh watch this.
[2:12:40] Speaker 23: I you know, I'm like, I'm I like, doctor Jackson,
[2:12:42] Speaker 23: I'd like to read what happened Sunday was twelve thousand
[2:12:48] Speaker 23: times the amount of fireworks that's ever been released in
[2:12:52] Speaker 23: the world.
[2:12:57] Speaker 1: It was a grand spectacle.
[2:12:59] Speaker 23: A flat should like a loud boom and then absolute darkness,
[2:13:09] Speaker 23: and here we are, this public corporate. We had to
[2:13:11] Speaker 23: come inside because of that, and we've got to ask
[2:13:16] Speaker 23: a question. We got to help this nation ask a question.
[2:13:18] Speaker 23: That's why we're livestreaming everywhere. We're trying to get people
[2:13:21] Speaker 23: to talk. What sense does it make? How do you
[2:13:26] Speaker 23: justify burning up millions of dollars in smoke when people
[2:13:34] Speaker 23: are suffering in the streets. It makes no morral sense.
[2:13:42] Speaker 23: That should be a massive outcry all this week, next
[2:13:46] Speaker 23: Sunday and Saturday everywhere. It makes no morral sense to
[2:13:49] Speaker 23: fire off fireworks when millions of perk people are working
[2:13:53] Speaker 23: full time jobs but don't make a living wage. It
[2:13:57] Speaker 23: makes no morral sense celebrate freedom with expensive explosions when
[2:14:03] Speaker 23: families are choosing between buying groceries and buying life saving
[2:14:07] Speaker 23: medication because they had basic health care snatched from them.
[2:14:14] Speaker 23: It makes no moral sense to fund a temporary show
[2:14:21] Speaker 23: while our schools are underfunded.
[2:14:25] Speaker 2: Folks.
[2:14:25] Speaker 3: If you want to catch the full speech abition William Barber,
[2:14:28] Speaker 3: go to our YouTube channel and you can check it out.
[2:14:31] Speaker 3: Just click live and you'll see the moral Mondays that
[2:14:34] Speaker 3: took place on Monday this year from DC there he
[2:14:38] Speaker 3: spoke with them of other speakers, and so you definitely
[2:14:41] Speaker 3: want to check that out.
[2:14:42] Speaker 2: Folks.
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[2:16:58] Speaker 3: some quotes from some great leaders like Paul Robeson, James Baldwin,
[2:17:05] Speaker 3: Hair Belafonte, and so again you can check those out.
[2:17:10] Speaker 3: We have those shirts available on the site. And so
[2:17:15] Speaker 3: for instance, we've got a shirt right here, America at
[2:17:19] Speaker 3: two fifty.
[2:17:20] Speaker 2: Tell the Whole story.
[2:17:22] Speaker 3: That's one of the shirts that we have, and you
[2:17:25] Speaker 3: can check that out. Let me go back here, and
[2:17:27] Speaker 3: so you can check another one of our shirts. We
[2:17:30] Speaker 3: have this one right here. Of course, it's James Baldwin.
[2:17:34] Speaker 3: I love America more than any other country in this world,
[2:17:37] Speaker 3: and exactly for this reason, I insist on the right
[2:17:40] Speaker 3: to criticize her perpetually. And so Candy, y'all supposed to
[2:17:45] Speaker 3: have America two fifty on that shirt. So that's not right.
[2:17:48] Speaker 3: So let's be sure to upload the correct shirt. And
[2:17:51] Speaker 3: so those shirts the James Baldwin quote, the Paul Robeson quote,
[2:17:55] Speaker 3: the Hair Belafonte quote, those should have America two fifty
[2:17:59] Speaker 3: on the top and the quote beneath it, this is
[2:18:01] Speaker 3: Paul Ropes and this is our home, and this is
[2:18:03] Speaker 3: our country. Beneath its soul live bones of our fathers
[2:18:06] Speaker 3: for it. Some of them fought, bled and dyed. Here
[2:18:09] Speaker 3: we were born, and here we will stay. And so
[2:18:12] Speaker 3: I don't give a damn what Donald Trump.
[2:18:14] Speaker 2: Has to say.
[2:18:14] Speaker 3: Go to shot black Start network dot com for our shirts, folks. Also,
[2:18:18] Speaker 3: so put our black owned companies.
[2:18:20] Speaker 2: We got more than fifty.
[2:18:21] Speaker 3: Companies on our marketplace, and so if you go there,
[2:18:24] Speaker 3: you'll see all of the different black On products. All
[2:18:27] Speaker 3: these products you see in our studio, All of these
[2:18:30] Speaker 3: products right here are available at shop Blackstar network dot com.
[2:18:34] Speaker 3: We want we should have a tight shot one of
[2:18:35] Speaker 3: the cameras.
[2:18:37] Speaker 2: So all those products, y'all name it.
[2:18:39] Speaker 3: We got puzzled and backpacks and sauces and all sort
[2:18:43] Speaker 3: of stuff. All of that's available at shop Blackstart Network
[2:18:47] Speaker 3: dot com.
[2:18:47] Speaker 2: So please check it out. All right, folks, that's it.
[2:18:50] Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
[2:18:51] Speaker 3: I'll see you all tomorrow right here rolling Mark Unfiltered
[2:18:53] Speaker 3: on the Blackstar Network.
[2:18:54] Speaker 2: Oh shout out.
[2:18:55] Speaker 3: I'm wearing no kill Ona A and T today, So
[2:18:57] Speaker 3: of course we found in eighteen ninety one, so I'm representing.
[2:18:59] Speaker 3: I'm texting them Aggie, well, I'm rocking the North Carolina
[2:19:02] Speaker 3: A and T Aggie shirt today.
[2:19:04] Speaker 2: All right, I see how tomorrow how mm hm

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