# Trump-IRS Settlement Blocked. Jeffries Slams GOP Affordability Crisis. Lindsay Graham Dies

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 14 Jul 2026, 2 h 07 min.

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7.13.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Trump-IRS Settlement Blocked. Jeffries Slams GOP Affordability Crisis. Lindsay Graham Dies _ For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* _ Download the Kalshi app and use code Soccer10 to get $10 when you trade $10. You can also sign up at kalshi.com/r/soccer10, which auto-applies the code at checkout. Kalshi. Trade What's Next _ Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:57] Speaker 6: From trys Mind New July thirteen, twenty twenty Sis coming
[0:59] Speaker 6: up a poltice streaming live the Black Star Network. House
[1:04] Speaker 6: Democrat leader how King Jeffries blast Donald Trump for his
[1:08] Speaker 6: failure to sound the bipartisan Housingville. He also has some
[1:12] Speaker 6: tough words about the Supreme Court or the extreme court
[1:16] Speaker 6: making decisions that he says it's about reintroducing Jim Crow.
[1:20] Speaker 6: A federal judge rips Donald Trump and his lawyers regarding
[1:25] Speaker 6: his settling with the irs. The judge is so cold
[1:28] Speaker 6: that he's referring the lawyers to the state bar for
[1:33] Speaker 6: action as well, folks. Also on today's show, Lindsey Graham,
[1:38] Speaker 6: Senator from a republic Republican head of South Carolina dies
[1:42] Speaker 6: over the weekend. We'll talk about his legacy, which is
[1:45] Speaker 6: really about embarrassing itself by kissing Donald Trump's ass, and
[1:49] Speaker 6: his sister has been named his temperary replacement in the
[1:52] Speaker 6: United States Senate DC Council has sent letters to Governor
[1:55] Speaker 6: gretchend Whipburgh Michigan and the Governor Albert Bryant Junior of
[1:58] Speaker 6: Virgin Islands, urging them to with all their National Guard
[2:01] Speaker 6: personnel from the city. We'll talk of the council member
[2:03] Speaker 6: who believes it's time for them to go. The Justice
[2:06] Speaker 6: Department recently's wore in more than one hundred new lawyers
[2:08] Speaker 6: in personnel. Pretty much they're lily white. And we'll talk
[2:13] Speaker 6: about environmental justice uh in this country as well. Folks
[2:19] Speaker 6: lost to talk about it's time to bring the farmer.
[2:21] Speaker 6: I'm rolling buck unfilter on a blackstun network.
[2:23] Speaker 7: Let's go past whatever it.
[2:29] Speaker 5: Is.
[2:29] Speaker 8: He believes he's right on time and best believe he's going.
[2:38] Speaker 9: Thanks lost most of politics with entertainment.
[2:42] Speaker 10: Justic case, he's.
[2:51] Speaker 8: Strolls.
[3:03] Speaker 6: He's in the market, folks say. Federal judge has voided
[3:18] Speaker 6: these settlement previously reached by the Liary in Chief Donald
[3:21] Speaker 6: the car Trump and his two oldest sons, which would
[3:24] Speaker 6: have given them millions if they planned to use in
[3:27] Speaker 6: part as a slush fund for January sixth riders. Judge
[3:30] Speaker 6: Kathleen Williams rule the lawsuit was an attempt legitimize the
[3:33] Speaker 6: government's effort under Trump to quote confer immunity to people
[3:37] Speaker 6: and entities affiliated with the president and quote and to
[3:40] Speaker 6: earmark billions of dollars from American taxpayers to address unclear grievances.
[3:44] Speaker 6: The settlement would have freed the Trumps from years of
[3:46] Speaker 6: past tax liability UH and also it would have stopped
[3:50] Speaker 6: any future audits. Also would have created a so called
[3:54] Speaker 6: UH anti weaponization fund for people who claim to have
[3:57] Speaker 6: been abused by the legal system. But not only that,
[4:00] Speaker 6: in this ruling, the judge also said you can't have
[4:04] Speaker 6: somebody representing both sides. That's pretty much what happened here.
[4:08] Speaker 6: Also in this ruling, which is even more decisive, the
[4:12] Speaker 6: judge blasted the attorneys involved and is going to refer
[4:16] Speaker 6: them to the state bar in Florida as well as
[4:21] Speaker 6: Washington d C. Now, this is a huge, huge ruling
[4:25] Speaker 6: because what you had here was Donald Trump essentially saying
[4:29] Speaker 6: that because his tax returns have been leaked, oh by
[4:32] Speaker 6: the way, they were leaked during his first administration, that
[4:37] Speaker 6: he was entitled to compensation. So the Department of Justice agrees.
[4:43] Speaker 6: The problem is they're working at his best. That's why
[4:48] Speaker 6: this judge said no, no, no. And so the judge
[4:52] Speaker 6: also just said, how there these lawyers could make the
[4:56] Speaker 6: decisions that they were making. And so it really was
[5:02] Speaker 6: quite a ruling by this judge, especially the referring to
[5:09] Speaker 6: the state bar Listen to this here, the judge said,
[5:13] Speaker 6: John Adams Warren, facts or stubborn things, and whatever may
[5:16] Speaker 6: be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions,
[5:19] Speaker 6: they cannot alter the state of facts in evidence. Thus,
[5:22] Speaker 6: whatever may be the party's wishes, inclinations, or the dictates
[5:26] Speaker 6: of their passion, they cannot alter the state of the
[5:29] Speaker 6: facts or evade the rule of law. Contrary to plaintiffs concern,
[5:32] Speaker 6: the court did not have to quote sally Forth to
[5:35] Speaker 6: look for a wrong to right. Court only needed. Court
[5:39] Speaker 6: needed only to look at the controverted facts here Donald
[5:43] Speaker 6: Trump as president. President Trump controls the actions of the
[5:46] Speaker 6: Secretary of the Treasury Department Scott Descent, rs CEO, Frank
[5:50] Speaker 6: Bissidni Gano, and all executive branch actors. President Trump's executive
[5:55] Speaker 6: Order also controls the litigation strategy and interpretation of the
[5:59] Speaker 6: laws guiding the Department of Justice. For the one hundred
[6:03] Speaker 6: and nine days that this case was pending, no attorney
[6:06] Speaker 6: representing the United States found a notice of appearance or
[6:09] Speaker 6: any document indicating the government's position, interest or awareness of
[6:15] Speaker 6: this matter. Definitis actions are consonant with the dictates of
[6:19] Speaker 6: Executive Order seven. These facts lead to the inexorable conclusion
[6:24] Speaker 6: that the quote settlement terms the individuals who signed the
[6:27] Speaker 6: settlement as well as the putative beneficiaries of the settlement
[6:31] Speaker 6: demonstrate a shared unitary interests, and the unilateral revision and
[6:36] Speaker 6: renunciation of the fund component of the settlement demonstrates the
[6:40] Speaker 6: fact that all parties were aligned and ultimately undeffrientiated. I'm
[6:48] Speaker 6: a congot to being a senior professer of lecture of
[6:50] Speaker 6: school in National Service, author of the book Lies about
[6:55] Speaker 6: Black People, also film and antist and creative. The public
[6:58] Speaker 6: opinion court author shut up in prosecute joining us from
[7:01] Speaker 6: Dallas that the Zachary Kirk educator and content creator out
[7:05] Speaker 6: of Atlanta, out of Atlanta, glad to have all three
[7:07] Speaker 6: of y'all here exact created as one big ass microphone. Seriously,
[7:14] Speaker 6: that is a big ass that's a big ass loud
[7:17] Speaker 6: and clear. Yeah, yeah, they can hear your ass in Mars.
[7:21] Speaker 6: That's a big ass microphone. All right, let's get this.
[7:23] Speaker 6: Get I'm just saying, big ass microphone, Like damn okay
[7:29] Speaker 6: on the congo. Uh this is this judge just rips it.
[7:33] Speaker 6: But judge is right, How on the hell can you
[7:36] Speaker 6: have the individual being the plane and the defendant controlling
[7:41] Speaker 6: both legal strategies.
[7:44] Speaker 1: I guess you get it.
[7:44] Speaker 11: You can do that when you're Trump, or at least
[7:46] Speaker 11: you think you can until this judge blocks it down.
[7:48] Speaker 11: I mean, this guy walked around talking about why I
[7:50] Speaker 11: don't really know how it's gonna go, you know, because
[7:52] Speaker 11: I'm the one I'm suing myself and this has never
[7:54] Speaker 11: been done before, and he thought it was cute. And
[7:56] Speaker 11: he's gonna keep pushing these limits as far as he
[7:59] Speaker 11: can go. Hope he'll that this gets to the Supreme
[8:01] Speaker 11: Court and that they'll allow him to do whatever it
[8:03] Speaker 11: is that he wants. But it's really important that these
[8:05] Speaker 11: judges continue to stand up. And quite frankly, it's very
[8:08] Speaker 11: frustrating that between Trump one point zho and Trump two
[8:11] Speaker 11: point zero, like more lawyers have not been disbarred or
[8:15] Speaker 11: referred to be disbarred because they have lied for him
[8:18] Speaker 11: on so many levels. Even some of his health officials
[8:20] Speaker 11: as well, like Jackson as well. You know, he's the
[8:22] Speaker 11: fittest ever he surrounds himself, the liars, they lie to
[8:25] Speaker 11: the American people, and unfortunately too many of these courts,
[8:29] Speaker 11: some have cided against him, but they.
[8:30] Speaker 12: Have not held these lawyers accountable.
[8:33] Speaker 11: And once you start doing things like this, messing with disbarment,
[8:35] Speaker 11: messing with their money, messing with their legal profession and
[8:38] Speaker 11: their ability to be able to continue to work after
[8:40] Speaker 11: this administration is gone, that's maybe when some of these
[8:43] Speaker 11: guys are going to buckle up. But this is a
[8:45] Speaker 11: man who's throwing spaghetti at the wall, seeing everything that's
[8:47] Speaker 11: going to stick, hoping he'll get the right judge, you know,
[8:49] Speaker 11: an Aileen Cannon type down in Florida, you know, just
[8:51] Speaker 11: somebody who's going to help him continue his path towards
[8:54] Speaker 11: undermining this democratic experiment.
[8:56] Speaker 12: And fortunately, at least in this moment, this judge is
[8:59] Speaker 12: not allowing.
[8:59] Speaker 11: It is calling him out for his lives, something that
[9:02] Speaker 11: you've been doing rolling since day one of the last administration,
[9:05] Speaker 11: These judges, these other networks, so many people took over
[9:08] Speaker 11: ten years to just call this man a straight up liar.
[9:10] Speaker 11: But this is what he's doing and it needs to
[9:12] Speaker 11: be called out.
[9:14] Speaker 6: Zachary, the judge writes in the very first paragraph of
[9:17] Speaker 6: the complaints, plaintiffs introduce their claims, stating President Trump served
[9:22] Speaker 6: as the forty fifth president of the United States and
[9:25] Speaker 6: is the forty seventh president of the United States. They
[9:28] Speaker 6: then go on to state that President Trump brings this
[9:31] Speaker 6: suit in his personal capacity. After a review of the
[9:35] Speaker 6: record and the party's statements, the court declines to adopt
[9:39] Speaker 6: or accept the credulous exercise of divorcing President Trump's current
[9:44] Speaker 6: job title from an understanding of what happened here. But
[9:48] Speaker 6: perhaps the most startling misstatement advanced by plaintiffs is their
[9:52] Speaker 6: characterization of this case as ordinary. The parties here are
[9:57] Speaker 6: not private actors to a mind run to speed recounting
[10:01] Speaker 6: their proficiency in the art of the deal they negotiated.
[10:04] Speaker 6: Let lead, plaintiffs and defendants are public servants, the pinnacle
[10:08] Speaker 6: of the executive branch, sworn to uphold the law, faithfully
[10:11] Speaker 6: perform the duties of their office, and protect the interests
[10:14] Speaker 6: of the American public. The issue before the court is
[10:17] Speaker 6: whether instead they ignored ethical norms, court rules, and legal
[10:21] Speaker 6: authority to manipulate the judicial process. The issue is whether
[10:26] Speaker 6: they did so to guild their efforts to gain unpressd
[10:29] Speaker 6: in their access to the public fisks and with the
[10:32] Speaker 6: patina of legitimacy. There's nothing ordinary about this case, and
[10:37] Speaker 6: it's a very definition of suis generous. This is a
[10:42] Speaker 6: fifty six page ruling and this judge just goes on
[10:46] Speaker 6: and on and on in ripping these grifters.
[10:51] Speaker 13: And thank God, thank God for just Kathleen Williams Wilson,
[10:55] Speaker 13: someone who is willing to do the right thing and
[10:57] Speaker 13: who is willing to be able to follow the rule
[11:00] Speaker 13: of law, which is extremely clear. We are living in
[11:02] Speaker 13: a timeframe when six members of the Supreme Court routinely
[11:05] Speaker 13: failed to do with this judge who serves under them,
[11:09] Speaker 13: chose to do and that's the right thing, follow what's
[11:11] Speaker 13: written by law. And she's absolutely right. There's no level
[11:15] Speaker 13: of ethics here. There is no level of morality in
[11:17] Speaker 13: this current administration. Donald Trump's net worth and I pulled
[11:21] Speaker 13: it up, has increased from has increased by about three
[11:25] Speaker 13: point four billion dollars, and that's on the lower end
[11:28] Speaker 13: of what this man has possibly made since taking office
[11:30] Speaker 13: in twenty twenty five. In addition to that, he wanted
[11:34] Speaker 13: to take even more money from the American people in
[11:36] Speaker 13: the American government. This is a man who is trying
[11:38] Speaker 13: to remake the White House and his image, trying to
[11:41] Speaker 13: remodel Washington in his image, flying around on a Katari
[11:44] Speaker 13: jet that he's calling Air Force One. This man has
[11:48] Speaker 13: there is no limit to what he will take from
[11:51] Speaker 13: the American people, while the majority of Americans have seen
[11:54] Speaker 13: a denigration in their quality of life under his leadership.
[11:58] Speaker 13: Under his leadership, our economy is faltering, our uninput on
[12:01] Speaker 13: rates are going up. We're struggling under this man. Yet
[12:05] Speaker 13: he's constantly profiting. Thank God, has Judge and her willingness
[12:09] Speaker 13: to tow the line, follow the law, and I can
[12:11] Speaker 13: only hope and pray that more people will look to
[12:14] Speaker 13: her as a model and do exactly what she did,
[12:16] Speaker 13: the right thing.
[12:17] Speaker 6: Absolutely grifter in chief. And what was insane about this
[12:21] Speaker 6: so called Iris settlement filma is that it said, oh,
[12:26] Speaker 6: there will not be any future audience. So basically, hey,
[12:31] Speaker 6: Donald Junior and Eric Trump and Ivanka, he's a green
[12:34] Speaker 6: light to just cheat and we will never ever investigate
[12:38] Speaker 6: you again.
[12:41] Speaker 14: Well, first of all, that their testing awards. They've been
[12:44] Speaker 14: testing awards on the legal capacity since their first administration.
[12:51] Speaker 14: Right now, what they're doing is they have not They're
[12:54] Speaker 14: no longer walking, they are sprinting because they have been
[12:58] Speaker 14: afforded that. That's that's the reason why when I said
[13:01] Speaker 14: in twenty twenty four, are going into twenty twenty five,
[13:03] Speaker 14: there's going to be a reckoning in the legal profession.
[13:06] Speaker 14: You're going to see who really is ethical and who
[13:10] Speaker 14: really don't have a backbone and is only showing up
[13:13] Speaker 14: or a check these lawyers that have decided that everything
[13:17] Speaker 14: that they've worked for, the oath that they've taken from
[13:21] Speaker 14: both their state and.
[13:23] Speaker 7: On the federal level, that they said, we don't care
[13:26] Speaker 7: about that.
[13:27] Speaker 14: As long as the commander in chief, who is only
[13:30] Speaker 14: their per term is going to give us permission to
[13:33] Speaker 14: do something that we've always wanted to do, we're going
[13:36] Speaker 14: to do it. But what people don't understand is we
[13:40] Speaker 14: can hold these people accountable. Not only can we hold
[13:43] Speaker 14: them accountable, we can file complaints with their bar, just
[13:46] Speaker 14: like Pam Bundy had thousands of bar complaints waiting on
[13:49] Speaker 14: her when she got fired. That's how you hold these
[13:52] Speaker 14: grifters who are dependent on a unethical, just egregious, disgusting
[13:59] Speaker 14: human and being in a president while they're out here
[14:03] Speaker 14: continuing to do this nonsense. But thank God that there
[14:05] Speaker 14: are judges that are going to say, no, y'all not
[14:09] Speaker 14: going to come in my court room and play with
[14:11] Speaker 14: the law. You do not come in here as a
[14:13] Speaker 14: president and try to be on a personal side.
[14:16] Speaker 7: What is wrong with you?
[14:17] Speaker 14: Somebody has finally said, you don't get to play in
[14:20] Speaker 14: our face. The people did not hire you for you
[14:23] Speaker 14: to come in here and still kill and destroy this system.
[14:27] Speaker 14: And I'm going to put a stop to it. But
[14:29] Speaker 14: hopefully I don't have no faith in these DOJ prosecutors
[14:32] Speaker 14: to do anything but do what they have been trained
[14:36] Speaker 14: and what their commander in chief.
[14:38] Speaker 7: Tells them to do.
[14:40] Speaker 6: Well, folks, we'll see. Certainly, I'm sure they're going to
[14:42] Speaker 6: be appealing this and what the pupels court says. But
[14:45] Speaker 6: thank god, these federal judges are absolutely stopping the thug
[14:50] Speaker 6: and grifter in chief. Got to go to break. We
[14:53] Speaker 6: come back. Lots to talk about, including Lindsey Graham dying
[14:59] Speaker 6: over the wee and what is his legacy Let's just
[15:04] Speaker 6: say kissing Donald Trump's. But I will explain. You're watching
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[18:13] Speaker 1: Roland Martin an unfiltered.
[18:20] Speaker 6: All right, folks, welcome back to rollandmart unfiltered and locked
[18:23] Speaker 6: for us to break down here on the show. So
[18:26] Speaker 6: we're gonna keep doing that. One of the things that
[18:30] Speaker 6: happened over the weekend was the shocking death of Lindsey Graham,
[18:34] Speaker 6: Republican senator from South Carolina. He had returned from Ukraine
[18:39] Speaker 6: and he suffered a ordered dissection and that's what led
[18:42] Speaker 6: to his death in the age of seventy one. Now
[18:46] Speaker 6: there are being a variety of tributes from Republicans and Democrats,
[18:49] Speaker 6: regarding his passing. But when we talk about someone passing away,
[18:54] Speaker 6: one of the things that I think about is what
[18:57] Speaker 6: Max Robinson, the nation's first black network anchor, said in
[19:01] Speaker 6: nineteen eighty eight. His body was frail, he was dying
[19:04] Speaker 6: of AIDS. He was speaking at Howard University, talking to
[19:07] Speaker 6: students and alumni. He said something, never ever lose your
[19:11] Speaker 6: integrity or your credibility, because in the end, that's all
[19:14] Speaker 6: you've got. And so here we are talking about Lindsey
[19:17] Speaker 6: Graham and what do we remember him? Being an absolute
[19:23] Speaker 6: flip flopper? And Trump asked Kisser, now understand he ran
[19:28] Speaker 6: for president two thousand and sixteen. Yep, he was running
[19:33] Speaker 6: against Trump and others. Twenty fifteen, he was on CNN
[19:38] Speaker 6: and this is what the so called straight shooter said
[19:43] Speaker 6: about Donald Trump.
[19:45] Speaker 4: I want to talk to the Trump support us from that.
[19:47] Speaker 4: I don't know who you are, and I don't know
[19:49] Speaker 4: why you like this guy. I think what you like
[19:52] Speaker 4: about him. He appears to be strong in the rest
[19:54] Speaker 4: of us for a week.
[19:56] Speaker 6: He's a very.
[19:56] Speaker 1: Successful business man.
[19:57] Speaker 4: He's gonna make everything great. He's gonna take all the
[20:00] Speaker 4: problems of the world and put him in a box
[20:03] Speaker 4: and make your life better.
[20:04] Speaker 1: That's what he's selling.
[20:05] Speaker 12: Here's what you're buying.
[20:07] Speaker 4: He's a race bating, xenophobic, religious bigot. He doesn't represent
[20:12] Speaker 4: my party. He doesn't represent the values that the men
[20:16] Speaker 4: and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. I've
[20:18] Speaker 4: been in the Air Force for thirty three years. I've
[20:20] Speaker 4: retired this June. He's the isole man of the year.
[20:23] Speaker 4: By the way, just got back from Morocc a week
[20:25] Speaker 4: ago this Monday.
[20:26] Speaker 3: I know we interviewed you live from there. You were
[20:28] Speaker 3: with Senator John mccannon.
[20:29] Speaker 7: You were going to Iraq to get a status report.
[20:32] Speaker 10: What were they saying there about all of this?
[20:35] Speaker 4: The military leadership and the diplomatic corps. Now, we have
[20:39] Speaker 4: young men and women in harm's way all over the world,
[20:41] Speaker 4: particularly in the Mideast. They were concerned about this rhetoric
[20:45] Speaker 4: because the enemy will use it against us. So what
[20:49] Speaker 4: was a concern last week has to be defkind for
[20:52] Speaker 4: this week because what mister Trump is doing, and I
[20:54] Speaker 4: don't think he has a clue about anything, He's just
[20:57] Speaker 4: trying to get his numbers up and get the biggest
[20:58] Speaker 4: reaction you can. He's putting our soldiers and diplomats at risk.
[21:03] Speaker 4: He's empowering the enemy in this ban, if it's actually enacted,
[21:07] Speaker 4: would take people who have been interpreters who came to
[21:10] Speaker 4: our side in Iraq and Afghanistan her under siege in
[21:13] Speaker 4: their own countries and basically becomes a death sentence for them.
[21:18] Speaker 6: That's Lindsey Graham, and he was highly critical of Donald Trump.
[21:25] Speaker 6: Not only that, after the January sixth domestic terrorists attempt
[21:32] Speaker 6: of Trump's people again heading to the US capital, Lindsey
[21:38] Speaker 6: Graham stood on the floor of the United States Senate
[21:43] Speaker 6: railed against Trump, and he said this Trump and I
[21:48] Speaker 6: we've had a hell of a journey.
[21:50] Speaker 10: I hate it. Then this way, oh my god, I
[21:53] Speaker 10: hate it.
[21:54] Speaker 15: From my point of view, he's been a consequential bresident.
[21:56] Speaker 15: But today, first thing you'll see.
[22:00] Speaker 1: All I can say is count me out. Enough is enough.
[22:06] Speaker 6: I've tried to be helpful.
[22:08] Speaker 15: But when this Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled four to three
[22:11] Speaker 15: that they didn't violate the Supreme the Constitution of Wisconsin,
[22:16] Speaker 15: I agree with the three, but I accept the four.
[22:18] Speaker 15: If al Gore could accept five to four, he's not president.
[22:21] Speaker 15: I can accept Wisconsin four to three. Pennsylvania, it went
[22:26] Speaker 15: to the Second Circuit so much for all the judges
[22:28] Speaker 15: being in Trump's pocket.
[22:31] Speaker 10: They said, no, you're wrong.
[22:33] Speaker 15: I accept the Pennsylvania Second Circuit that Trump's lawsuit wasn't right. Georgia,
[22:38] Speaker 15: they said the Secretary of ting took the law in
[22:40] Speaker 15: his own hands. He changed the election laws unlawfully. The
[22:45] Speaker 15: federal judge said, no, I accept the federal judge, even
[22:48] Speaker 15: though I don't agree with it. Fraud they said, there's
[22:51] Speaker 15: sixty six thousand people in Georgia under eighteen voted.
[22:55] Speaker 6: How many people believe that?
[22:58] Speaker 10: I asked, give me ten?
[23:00] Speaker 6: Had one?
[23:01] Speaker 15: They said, eight thousand felons in prison and Arizona voted
[23:06] Speaker 15: give me ten.
[23:06] Speaker 1: I had gotten one. Does that say there's.
[23:10] Speaker 10: Problems in every election? I don't buy this. Enough's enough.
[23:17] Speaker 6: And went Carl Fox News the Weekend and said, forty
[23:19] Speaker 6: minutes after Lindsey Graham made that, he called to apologize
[23:23] Speaker 6: and when he said I'm done, that was a lie.
[23:25] Speaker 6: Lindsey Graham was a hypocrite. Lindsey Grahm was a liar.
[23:28] Speaker 6: Lindsey Graham was all about access to power. Here is
[23:32] Speaker 6: Lindsey Graham talking in twenty twenty five to a group
[23:37] Speaker 6: of Jewish Republicans. The Republican Jewish Coalition. Listen.
[23:43] Speaker 15: So I just want to say I feel good about
[23:45] Speaker 15: the Republican Party. I feel good about where we're going
[23:48] Speaker 15: as the nation. We're killing all the right people and
[23:51] Speaker 15: were cutting your Texas. Trump is my favorite president.
[24:00] Speaker 10: We've run out of bombs.
[24:01] Speaker 15: We didn't run out of Bob's in World War Two.
[24:05] Speaker 6: Now check this out. Peter Baker the New York Times
[24:07] Speaker 6: wrote this piece, good MyPad, how Lindsey Graham's journey from
[24:10] Speaker 6: Trump critic to ally made him a power player. So
[24:15] Speaker 6: he talked about he was still in the game. He
[24:18] Speaker 6: sat here and look at this here, it said it
[24:21] Speaker 6: had been a head spinning transformation. When mister Trump first
[24:24] Speaker 6: took the national stage, mister Graham denounced him as a
[24:27] Speaker 6: kook who was unfit for office. Then after mister Trump
[24:29] Speaker 6: on the presidency, mister Graham was at his side on
[24:31] Speaker 6: the golf course and going on television to say how
[24:34] Speaker 6: outrageous it was for anyone to call him some kind
[24:36] Speaker 6: of a kook not fit to be president. Graham mainew apologies.
[24:40] Speaker 6: He said, this was politics. I've just made a conscious decision.
[24:43] Speaker 6: You know, I'm still in the game. There's no way
[24:45] Speaker 6: to get around Trump. He's the most important figure in
[24:48] Speaker 6: the Republican party now, not me, not John McCain, not
[24:50] Speaker 6: George W. Bush, Donald Trump. Let's play the hand of Ordell.
[24:53] Speaker 6: In the same article, Peter Baker says that even John McCain,
[24:57] Speaker 6: who was very close to Lindsey Graham, was in so
[25:00] Speaker 6: tom By he said, why do you have to play
[25:01] Speaker 6: golf with him? So much? That was related to Peter
[25:04] Speaker 6: Baker by someone else. Graham actually could actually confirm the comment.
[25:09] Speaker 6: And so the article lays out again how he got
[25:13] Speaker 6: close to Trump, how he played golf with him, how
[25:15] Speaker 6: he was about being he was the sort of go
[25:17] Speaker 6: between between him and other Republicans. But see, this is
[25:20] Speaker 6: what happens when you have no spine. This is what
[25:23] Speaker 6: happens when you have no morals, no values, no integrity,
[25:27] Speaker 6: no credibility, no decency, no honor. Lindsey Graham was the
[25:32] Speaker 6: same as Donald Trump, craving for power and attention, and
[25:36] Speaker 6: so his word cannot be trusted. It's as simple as that.
[25:40] Speaker 6: Remember the George Floyd Act. That's right, Lindsey Graham and
[25:45] Speaker 6: Tim Scott set before those families, George Ford family said
[25:48] Speaker 6: they were gonna get the votes to pass the George
[25:51] Speaker 6: Floyd bill. That never happened Graham or Tim Scott. And
[25:59] Speaker 6: so what is the legacy? How will Lindsey Graham be remembered,
[26:05] Speaker 6: Sarah John McCain. We may have differences on policy, but
[26:10] Speaker 6: when it came to time to cast the vote for
[26:12] Speaker 6: the Afordable Care Act, we all remember his famous thumbs down.
[26:16] Speaker 6: He stood firm even when his own party disagreed. That's
[26:19] Speaker 6: not how we remember Lindsey Graham. He'll be remembered as
[26:23] Speaker 6: a slithering snake, someone who would slide in, slide out,
[26:26] Speaker 6: somebody who would just do whatever whatever he could do
[26:30] Speaker 6: in order to maintain relevance. As Max Robinson said about
[26:37] Speaker 6: your credibility, he said, never ever lose your integrity or
[26:40] Speaker 6: your credibility, because in the end, that's all you've got.
[26:44] Speaker 6: In the end, Lindsey Graham had none because he served
[26:50] Speaker 6: it up to Donald Trump. Zachary, your thoughts.
[26:58] Speaker 1: May he rest he is resting, He is resting.
[27:04] Speaker 13: Lindsey Graham was a weak and small leader who continuously
[27:10] Speaker 13: looked for stronger people to hide behind, like Senator John McCain,
[27:14] Speaker 13: like Donald Trump, and at no point did he.
[27:18] Speaker 1: Ever do what was the right thing for the people
[27:20] Speaker 1: of South Carolina.
[27:22] Speaker 13: The people of South Carolina continuously searched, and both he
[27:26] Speaker 13: and Tim Scott, Senator Scott for leaders who were in
[27:29] Speaker 13: the middle, more moderate, more census leaning, to represent them.
[27:33] Speaker 1: And he never did.
[27:34] Speaker 13: He always ran to the far right, hiding behind the
[27:37] Speaker 13: far right, and never doing what was right and in
[27:39] Speaker 13: the enges of the people. And so I look back
[27:42] Speaker 13: to Roland what you said at the very beginning of
[27:44] Speaker 13: this conversation, and that this man could have gone down
[27:47] Speaker 13: in history as someone of principle, of someone of having
[27:51] Speaker 13: done what was right, but he won't. I have never
[27:54] Speaker 13: seen so many people heckle the loss of an American leaders.
[28:00] Speaker 1: I have seen them heckle Lindsey Graham. And they say
[28:03] Speaker 1: that death comes in threes. And it's very well that
[28:05] Speaker 1: this is at a pretense.
[28:07] Speaker 13: Of what may yet be to come and the jolly
[28:10] Speaker 13: good time we will have online when someone else transitions
[28:14] Speaker 13: to hell.
[28:17] Speaker 12: Oh, mccono, you know my biggest problem.
[28:22] Speaker 11: I think about Malcolm a lot of one of his
[28:24] Speaker 11: speeches where he just says, you know, just tell the truth,
[28:27] Speaker 11: just tell the truth. And this revisionist history is a
[28:30] Speaker 11: serious problem. If people don't want to speak ill of
[28:32] Speaker 11: the dead. I completely understand that, but it's not speaking
[28:35] Speaker 11: ill of the dead to tell the truth.
[28:37] Speaker 12: And you told the truth.
[28:39] Speaker 11: Roll And the fact of the matter is that he's
[28:40] Speaker 11: somebody who wanted proximity to power. It didn't matter. You
[28:43] Speaker 11: don't go from John McCain to you know, being Donald
[28:46] Speaker 11: Trump's boy like you just don't do that unless that's
[28:49] Speaker 11: what your goal is. And we also have to be
[28:51] Speaker 11: clear on many of his policies. He wasn'tn enemy to
[28:54] Speaker 11: black and brown people. And you look at the LGBTQ
[28:58] Speaker 11: community as well, artists. What rumors people had about you know,
[29:01] Speaker 11: his own lifestyle doesn't matter. He was an enemy to
[29:04] Speaker 11: that community as well. He's going in front of that
[29:06] Speaker 11: organization that you mentioned there and he saw them about
[29:09] Speaker 11: were killing all of the right people. Was a complete
[29:12] Speaker 11: warmonger as it relates to how he viewed other parts
[29:15] Speaker 11: of the world when he wanted, he.
[29:16] Speaker 6: Was a hawk gun.
[29:17] Speaker 11: And so it's not disparaging him in any way, shape
[29:19] Speaker 11: or form to talk about his record and talk about
[29:22] Speaker 11: what he did. And I feel like there are a
[29:23] Speaker 11: lot of people out there who are mad at many
[29:25] Speaker 11: of the Democrats who not the ones who are just
[29:28] Speaker 11: you know, speaking not ilephant, but are going extra, you know,
[29:31] Speaker 11: to call him a hero and all of these other
[29:33] Speaker 11: types of things. And it's just kind of showing people
[29:35] Speaker 11: that some of these democrats are not really in it
[29:38] Speaker 11: to tell the truth and tell and to really fight
[29:40] Speaker 11: the good fight, and they're losing. They're getting a lot
[29:42] Speaker 11: of criticism as well. As it relates to Lindsey Graham,
[29:45] Speaker 11: many people in South Carolina said that they never felt
[29:47] Speaker 11: like he represented them for reals, for not like one day.
[29:51] Speaker 12: He was somebody who wanted that proximity to power and
[29:53] Speaker 12: he got it.
[29:54] Speaker 11: And I feel like the way that the stories are
[29:56] Speaker 11: being told about him now, we just need to paint
[29:58] Speaker 11: an accurate picture.
[29:59] Speaker 12: Whether you love them or hate him, this.
[30:01] Speaker 6: Is what he did.
[30:01] Speaker 11: No one's gonna sit here and say that any of
[30:03] Speaker 11: us four cared about proximity to power. We change our
[30:07] Speaker 11: values up depending on who was in office, and we
[30:09] Speaker 11: did everything possible to get close to that. Just tell
[30:12] Speaker 11: the truth, that's all we're asking.
[30:15] Speaker 6: This is what Peter Baker writes. With those outside mister
[30:18] Speaker 6: Trump's team, mister Graham projected a weakened nod. I'm in
[30:21] Speaker 6: on the joke demeanor, and my wife and I ran
[30:23] Speaker 6: into him on the street in Washington one night during
[30:25] Speaker 6: mister Trump's first term. Coming out of a dinner at
[30:28] Speaker 6: the CNBC in Palm restaurant, he stopped to boast about
[30:31] Speaker 6: just getting off the phone with mister Trump, even as
[30:33] Speaker 6: he laughed about the president's foible. He's a line m effort,
[30:37] Speaker 6: mister Graham allowed with the shrug, but also quote a
[30:39] Speaker 6: lot of fun to hang out with mister Trump, he said,
[30:42] Speaker 6: was so dominant with him the party that he could
[30:44] Speaker 6: do almost anything with impunity. He could kill fifty people
[30:48] Speaker 6: on our side and it wouldn't matter, mister Graham observed,
[30:52] Speaker 6: So he didn't mind filming him being a line m effort.
[30:58] Speaker 14: And that's why his family mind how individuals are speaking
[31:03] Speaker 14: their truth in the reality that he calls for so
[31:06] Speaker 14: many people in this country. There's a saying that you know,
[31:09] Speaker 14: if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say
[31:12] Speaker 14: it at all. There is nothing nice to say about
[31:16] Speaker 14: this spineless racis.
[31:20] Speaker 7: Just inhumane individual. For you to side with an individual.
[31:25] Speaker 14: Who has created such a rhetoric in this country, that
[31:30] Speaker 14: only shows us that was your propensity. You just wanted
[31:34] Speaker 14: somebody to come and remove that shell of a person
[31:37] Speaker 14: that you have had to subscribe to in order to
[31:41] Speaker 14: think that you are going into the base that is
[31:44] Speaker 14: going to accept you.
[31:45] Speaker 7: No, you wanted this identity all along.
[31:49] Speaker 14: You just needed Trump to come in and release it
[31:52] Speaker 14: so that you can be free in your hate and
[31:54] Speaker 14: your racism, in your spineless rhetoric. So when we are
[31:59] Speaker 14: looking at how they have celebrated the deaths of individuals
[32:05] Speaker 14: who are heros, nobody is celebrating the death of someone
[32:10] Speaker 14: that has created so much damage in this country that
[32:13] Speaker 14: is going to take decades to undo. So I seeing
[32:19] Speaker 14: these democrats go and kiss the rain don't make it
[32:22] Speaker 14: no better because now we're.
[32:24] Speaker 7: Able to see your slip. We're able to see what you're.
[32:27] Speaker 14: Doing behind closed doors when you are not holding space
[32:31] Speaker 14: for the people that put you in that position. And
[32:34] Speaker 14: that's exactly what Graham was. And the one thing that
[32:38] Speaker 14: they would never be able to accept is how John
[32:42] Speaker 14: McCain was celebrated when he passed away. How dare he
[32:47] Speaker 14: gets support and love from both sides? Well, did you
[32:51] Speaker 14: check his record?
[32:53] Speaker 7: Did you check how he was as a real human
[32:56] Speaker 7: being and as a hero? Y'all would never to an
[33:00] Speaker 7: inch of that man's.
[33:03] Speaker 14: Credibility because y'all have none, and Lindsey Graham had none,
[33:08] Speaker 14: and it should not be celebrated for the damage and
[33:11] Speaker 14: the pain that he's.
[33:12] Speaker 7: Caused along the way.
[33:15] Speaker 6: Absolutely, all right, folks, Let's talk about Washington, d C.
[33:18] Speaker 6: Or the DC Council. They were sent letters to two governors,
[33:22] Speaker 6: one in Michigan, one in the US Virgin Islands asking
[33:27] Speaker 6: them to withdraw their National Guard troops from the nation's capital.
[33:32] Speaker 6: The Michigan governor is Gretchen and Whipber, and of course
[33:35] Speaker 6: in the Virgin Islands you have their governor as well.
[33:42] Speaker 6: So the letters sent July ninth to Greta Whipmer thanking
[33:47] Speaker 6: the Michigan National Guard for helping protests, protect residents and
[33:51] Speaker 6: visionors during the holiday events. But the Council says the
[33:55] Speaker 6: mission is over, okay now. Letter also was sent to
[34:02] Speaker 6: Albert Bryant, Junior of the US Virgin Islands, joining us
[34:05] Speaker 6: right now is the DC Council membery and Lawge Robert
[34:09] Speaker 6: White Jr. Glad to have you here. So how many
[34:12] Speaker 6: different National Guard members in terms of how many states
[34:16] Speaker 6: are they from in the city, To your.
[34:18] Speaker 16: Knowledge, I have lost count at this point, Roland. But
[34:24] Speaker 16: what we saw was five or six Democratic governors sent
[34:28] Speaker 16: guard troops here. This is after Trump has brought in
[34:32] Speaker 16: guard troops from Republican states for a year now.
[34:36] Speaker 1: But for America to.
[34:37] Speaker 16: Fifty, several Democrats say, look, you know, out of respect
[34:41] Speaker 16: for the country, we'll send guard troops for America to fifty.
[34:44] Speaker 16: But then we look and we see them mountain neighborhoods
[34:46] Speaker 16: doing law enforcement, not crowd control. And so now that
[34:50] Speaker 16: America to fifty, the events are over, we said, look,
[34:53] Speaker 16: it's time for folks to go back to their families
[34:56] Speaker 16: and their jobs.
[34:57] Speaker 12: Mission complete.
[34:58] Speaker 6: Have y'all talked to Governor Whitmer or Governor Bryant.
[35:03] Speaker 16: We're reaching out now, and look, I've been happy to
[35:08] Speaker 16: see some of the remarks from Governor Whitmer h in
[35:11] Speaker 16: particular saying, look, I'm concerned about Mission Creep and our
[35:16] Speaker 16: Guard troops being used for something that was not intended,
[35:19] Speaker 16: and so I think she's lined herself.
[35:21] Speaker 1: Up for removing them. But it is time.
[35:24] Speaker 16: You know, in DC, we've seen significant abuses.
[35:27] Speaker 1: You're showing one of the videos.
[35:28] Speaker 16: Now, this is somebody on their property, and you know,
[35:31] Speaker 16: different than the National Guard, but we've seen ICE agents
[35:34] Speaker 16: within one week killed two people in two different states.
[35:37] Speaker 1: And you know this is not law enforcement, This is
[35:39] Speaker 1: not about public safety.
[35:41] Speaker 16: This is about politics and political shows, and we don't
[35:44] Speaker 16: want to be upon in that game.
[35:47] Speaker 6: This is I mean, obviously Trump wants everyone doing his bidding.
[35:51] Speaker 6: And to your point, uh, these are two, you know, frankly,
[35:56] Speaker 6: two Democratic strongholds. And when it comes to Michigan, Democrats
[36:00] Speaker 6: control the governor's mansion, the House in the Senate as well.
[36:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. And we want to be conscious.
[36:08] Speaker 16: The letter that that we sent to the governor and
[36:12] Speaker 16: to the governor of the Virgin Islands says, look, DC
[36:15] Speaker 16: residents are the only ones only Americans that pay all
[36:18] Speaker 16: federal taxes, have fought and died in every single war,
[36:21] Speaker 16: follow every American law, but don't have the same rights
[36:25] Speaker 16: as other states. Treat us the way that you would
[36:28] Speaker 16: want the residents of your state treated. But also, you
[36:31] Speaker 16: know happened to be after this, we lost the.
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[39:33] Speaker 6: Now we got counsel member White back up. Lost lost
[39:37] Speaker 6: them there, Go ahead and finish the commentary making sir
[39:41] Speaker 6: all right, looks like we've lost him again. Not sure
[39:43] Speaker 6: what's going on there, uh, and so we'll short through
[39:48] Speaker 6: that to figure it out. Put my panel here, bottom
[39:52] Speaker 6: line here, uh thelma.
[39:54] Speaker 15: Uh.
[39:55] Speaker 6: These these governors should absolutely recall their troops and should
[39:58] Speaker 6: not be doing the bidding of Don.
[40:00] Speaker 14: Trump, absolutely, especially when they are footing the bill for
[40:07] Speaker 14: what is being required. When you're telling troops to go
[40:11] Speaker 14: somewhere and put their lives in and risk their livelihoods
[40:16] Speaker 14: and in their famili's security on a president that is
[40:21] Speaker 14: refusing to provide resources and help, but for the fact
[40:27] Speaker 14: that he is the president, he can make these demands.
[40:29] Speaker 3: Well.
[40:30] Speaker 14: They are also over seers of what these guards are
[40:35] Speaker 14: being inflicted to do, so their job is to protect them,
[40:40] Speaker 14: just like the commander chief job is to protect not
[40:43] Speaker 14: only the troops, but the residents of this country and
[40:47] Speaker 14: the citizens of this country.
[40:49] Speaker 7: And to ignore the requests that you are able to do,
[40:54] Speaker 7: but you want to sit up here.
[40:55] Speaker 14: And do everything else but provide for the National Guard
[41:00] Speaker 14: is insane to me, and it only shows they that
[41:04] Speaker 14: he lacks everything a leader lacks. But I appreciate them
[41:09] Speaker 14: continuing to put pressure on him and don't stop, because
[41:14] Speaker 14: that's the only way, the only way they are going
[41:16] Speaker 14: to get just an ounce of what they should be
[41:19] Speaker 14: receiving in return.
[41:20] Speaker 13: Exachly that these governors have to absolutely do the right thing.
[41:26] Speaker 13: I literally just look this up people, really quickly, and
[41:29] Speaker 13: it's going to cost about It costs right now between
[41:32] Speaker 13: three hundred and eleven and six hundred and seven dollars
[41:34] Speaker 13: per person per day for these members of the National
[41:37] Speaker 13: Guards to be away from their families, with their jobs,
[41:39] Speaker 13: away from their lives to patrol Washington, DC at the
[41:43] Speaker 13: behest of the president. That's how much it's costing. And
[41:47] Speaker 13: it's about one million total dollars per day. That's how
[41:51] Speaker 13: much money that we are losing these states. These funds
[41:55] Speaker 13: could do so much good for the people if they
[41:58] Speaker 13: were being used in that way. I need Gretchen Whitmer
[42:01] Speaker 13: and people like this who are possibly being mentioned for
[42:04] Speaker 13: a future beyond their state office to follow them. Example
[42:08] Speaker 13: of leaders like Governor Wes Moore we have and you know,
[42:11] Speaker 13: to be fair, Governor Gavin Newsom. We need people to
[42:14] Speaker 13: have a backbone to stand up and do what is
[42:17] Speaker 13: the interest of their constituents instead of doing the bidding
[42:20] Speaker 13: of this president. And until we see that, we have
[42:22] Speaker 13: to make these people is disqualifying. If they don't stand up,
[42:25] Speaker 13: they don't have a backbone, there's no way they can
[42:26] Speaker 13: continue to serve the people of this country beyond their state.
[42:31] Speaker 6: You got counsel Member White, back, Councilmember White, you were
[42:34] Speaker 6: making a comment. Want you to finish that? Okay, all right,
[42:40] Speaker 6: and let's go. Let's let's have let's close us out
[42:43] Speaker 6: with a second on the congo cond of go ahead.
[42:47] Speaker 11: Look, I'm a homeowner in DC, I teaching DC, and
[42:51] Speaker 11: I'm a businesswman in DC, and these these National Guard members,
[42:56] Speaker 11: they're blight on the city everywhere you go. There there
[43:01] Speaker 11: you saw the trucks outside the tanks outside of the
[43:04] Speaker 11: Union station, you know, basically looking like a museum demonstration
[43:07] Speaker 11: right on the grass. People look at them almost as
[43:09] Speaker 11: a tourist attraction. People aren't from here, but for people
[43:12] Speaker 11: who are here, it's very frustrating. It's very frustrating. And
[43:15] Speaker 11: I noticed that I didn't see any of them out
[43:17] Speaker 11: there when you know, those white nationalists were out there
[43:20] Speaker 11: like four hundred deep, you know, pro marching down the streets,
[43:23] Speaker 11: so hopping on these trains.
[43:24] Speaker 12: You know, during you know, Trump's two hundred and.
[43:27] Speaker 11: Fifty celebration, you know of himself that he tried to
[43:29] Speaker 11: tie into America's independence.
[43:31] Speaker 12: It's really frustrating, and they do have to go.
[43:34] Speaker 11: And I give kudos to white and others who are
[43:36] Speaker 11: putting pressure on these governors to withdraw their troops because
[43:39] Speaker 11: they're doing absolutely nothing. And earlier there are losing time
[43:44] Speaker 11: with their own families on the personal side, But for
[43:46] Speaker 11: us who are walking around in the city, they are
[43:48] Speaker 11: completely unnecessary.
[43:57] Speaker 6: That is issue with council member, but appreciate him joining us.
[44:01] Speaker 6: Let's go to a break. We'll be right back rolling.
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[48:01] Speaker 6: It's your boy Earthquake, you know, giving Roland Martin something
[48:04] Speaker 6: to do because you know you don't know what to
[48:06] Speaker 6: do from Texas. Ain't his fault. The white man who
[48:14] Speaker 6: opened fire on a black Georgia family reunionist back at
[48:16] Speaker 6: police custody. He may face board charges. Last month, Jeffrey
[48:20] Speaker 6: Kinser was charged with one count of aggravated assault after
[48:23] Speaker 6: he shot at racial slurs while driving past the black
[48:26] Speaker 6: family's home, then returned wearing body armor and began firing
[48:30] Speaker 6: at the crowd. Kinser's defense team requested a bond modification
[48:33] Speaker 6: to allow him to return home. The state opposed at
[48:36] Speaker 6: requests and filed a motion for Kinser to remain in
[48:39] Speaker 6: jail until an official bond hearing. Judge Jim Thurman ruled
[48:42] Speaker 6: in favor of the state and adjusted Kinsa's original bond condition,
[48:46] Speaker 6: now he must remain at least half a mile away
[48:48] Speaker 6: from the victim's home. During the hearing, Lee County District
[48:51] Speaker 6: Attorney Lewis Lamb requested adding in about twenty nine additional
[48:55] Speaker 6: council of aggravated assault and thirty counts of possession of
[48:58] Speaker 6: a firearm. While Judge Than discussed a potential one million
[49:02] Speaker 6: dollar bond if it'shabon hearing its set for tomorrow. One
[49:06] Speaker 6: of the friends who says he was with Dolan Wales
[49:09] Speaker 6: during a fourth July trip to the Mississippi's Horn Island
[49:11] Speaker 6: before the team was found dead, is now speaking out
[49:14] Speaker 6: about some of what he saw. In an interview that
[49:17] Speaker 6: aired Monday, July thirteenth on Good Morning America, Traceton Sheppard
[49:21] Speaker 6: told ABC News that he had other young folks who
[49:24] Speaker 6: were on the trip have been devastated by Wells's death
[49:27] Speaker 6: while also facing intense public scrutiny in the days since,
[49:32] Speaker 6: I just.
[49:33] Speaker 2: Know I've lost my best friend. We didn't know wrong here,
[49:36] Speaker 2: and we don't understand how we're getting so much hate
[49:38] Speaker 2: behind it. We all cared and loved Nolan, and nobody
[49:42] Speaker 2: wanted to see no one die. Nobody wanted to see
[49:45] Speaker 2: his life be taken so short. Don't want everybody just
[49:47] Speaker 2: to relax and let everybody warns the loss of Nolan
[49:54] Speaker 2: and let us remember him as in like the sweet guy.
[49:58] Speaker 2: I think everybody needs to the investigation continue and let
[50:05] Speaker 2: what the facts be shown.
[50:07] Speaker 6: Fritschan also said he was the one in the video
[50:09] Speaker 6: of the alleged confrontation that day, not Nolan. So much
[50:15] Speaker 6: has been made of all of this, and I will
[50:19] Speaker 6: say he's right here in terms of investigation must be
[50:23] Speaker 6: allowed to continue. But here we are nine days after
[50:31] Speaker 6: he was last seen, his body was seven days after
[50:34] Speaker 6: his body was recovered. Then of course a photo was
[50:38] Speaker 6: put out showing that he was possibly at a pool
[50:41] Speaker 6: party later that night. I mean, so much conflicting information here.
[50:45] Speaker 14: Thelma, absolutely, And what irritates me about this friend is
[50:52] Speaker 14: where were you last week when we were trying to
[50:55] Speaker 14: figure out what was going on in that video?
[50:58] Speaker 7: You were mute.
[50:59] Speaker 14: So for you to come to say a week later
[51:02] Speaker 14: that we need to relax, No, we don't need to
[51:05] Speaker 14: relax because we need to know what happened to Nolan
[51:09] Speaker 14: and if none of his friends are going to step
[51:12] Speaker 14: up and be man enough to tell us what happened
[51:16] Speaker 14: to Nolan. We are going to continue to apply enough
[51:20] Speaker 14: pressure to make y'all do what y'all should have done.
[51:24] Speaker 14: Where were you Did you go and tell his attorneys,
[51:28] Speaker 14: his family attorneys about this mysterious voice? Did you tell
[51:33] Speaker 14: his attorneys about anything that you saw, Because we're hearing
[51:38] Speaker 14: from you on Good Morning America on a big platform.
[51:43] Speaker 14: We don't see an affidavit that you've signed, that you've
[51:46] Speaker 14: swore to these statements. We're just getting statements from individuals
[51:51] Speaker 14: that now want to come to the front when we
[51:53] Speaker 14: the public, have been seeking answers for the family.
[51:58] Speaker 7: So I don't care what he he said. None of
[52:00] Speaker 7: what he said to me is credible.
[52:03] Speaker 14: What we are continuing to do is make sure this
[52:05] Speaker 14: investigation is credible. But his statements coming out a week later,
[52:10] Speaker 14: it sounds very much rehearsed.
[52:12] Speaker 7: They sound balked.
[52:14] Speaker 14: They sound like somebody got to him, Because ain't no
[52:17] Speaker 14: way a real friend of Nolan is going to come
[52:21] Speaker 14: out and approach this conversation the way that he did
[52:25] Speaker 14: without first seeking and giving the information to the family
[52:29] Speaker 14: and his family's attorney, Zachary.
[52:41] Speaker 13: You know, Roland, this is one of the stories that
[52:43] Speaker 13: I'm following very closely on my social media accounts that's
[52:45] Speaker 13: activisty and for those watch you can follow on TikTok
[52:48] Speaker 13: and Instagram. And I'm doing a lot of research around
[52:51] Speaker 13: debunking what isn't true. And so we now know that
[52:54] Speaker 13: that photo that you saw about of the pool party
[52:57] Speaker 13: was probably taken around June twenty seventh and was an
[52:59] Speaker 13: old photo that then resurface. There's a lot of misinformation
[53:02] Speaker 13: out there, and it's so important, and I want to
[53:04] Speaker 13: share to everybody out there that we only share factual
[53:06] Speaker 13: information and that we don't money and confuse the work
[53:10] Speaker 13: of people who are trying to like release at the
[53:12] Speaker 13: bottom of it. But at the same time, it's so
[53:14] Speaker 13: important for us to not for us to not for
[53:17] Speaker 13: us to not stop saying this young man's name, knowing
[53:20] Speaker 13: Exavier Wills, knowing Exavier Wills, knowing Exavier Wills, because by
[53:23] Speaker 13: us keeping this to the forefront, we are.
[53:25] Speaker 1: Pushing for justice.
[53:27] Speaker 13: Mississippi, my native land where my family still lives, is
[53:32] Speaker 13: a state right with racial injustice and continuous police cover ups.
[53:36] Speaker 13: We cannot trust Sheriff Ledbetter in Jackson County, Mississippi anymore
[53:40] Speaker 13: that we can trust the people that cover up the
[53:42] Speaker 13: murder of Mmitil, the people that we saw in Missipi
[53:45] Speaker 13: burning and the.
[53:46] Speaker 1: Showba County, Mississippi.
[53:47] Speaker 13: We cannot trust these people to ever give justice for
[53:49] Speaker 13: the black lives that live and that have lived in
[53:52] Speaker 13: that state and that have made that state. That is
[53:54] Speaker 13: why we're being vocal, that is why we're fighting hard.
[53:57] Speaker 13: That is why we are committed to ensuring justice for
[54:00] Speaker 13: knowing Xavier Wills.
[54:02] Speaker 10: And it is to me.
[54:04] Speaker 13: Disappointing that this young man who looks brown. Now he
[54:07] Speaker 13: may not know you brown, but he certainly didn't look
[54:09] Speaker 13: white to me. They got on the darkens of the
[54:11] Speaker 13: group to come out on public television and defend the
[54:15] Speaker 13: actions of the Fairy group.
[54:16] Speaker 1: And these young people may very well be innocent of
[54:18] Speaker 1: any in all.
[54:19] Speaker 13: Crimes, but we don't know that to be true until
[54:23] Speaker 13: the facts of the case bearout. I personally am taking
[54:26] Speaker 13: the lead from Attorney ban Crump and the family. I'm
[54:30] Speaker 13: looking at what they put out, I'm looking at how
[54:32] Speaker 13: they're feeding this information. Because this man is a master
[54:35] Speaker 13: of getting justice for people in this country that have
[54:38] Speaker 13: been wronged civiling by systems of government.
[54:42] Speaker 1: So I I urge all of us to do the
[54:44] Speaker 1: same thing. But I do ask that everyone out.
[54:46] Speaker 13: There continue to push, continue to share credible information, and
[54:49] Speaker 13: continue to see this through toil. She's just garner for
[54:52] Speaker 13: this family going to go.
[54:56] Speaker 18: Well.
[54:56] Speaker 11: First of all, I want to thank you Rolling for
[54:58] Speaker 11: the incredible interview that she did with the family last week.
[55:01] Speaker 11: And you know, going off with doctor Kirk's point, it's
[55:04] Speaker 11: really important that we pay attention to trusted sources that
[55:07] Speaker 11: doctor Kirk mentioned his platform. Also, you know right here
[55:11] Speaker 11: on Roland Martin Unfiltered in the Blackstar Network, because there's
[55:14] Speaker 11: so much misinformation and disinformation out there that if we
[55:18] Speaker 11: really want to uplift Knowled, we have to make sure
[55:20] Speaker 11: that we're telling factual stories.
[55:21] Speaker 12: And so I appreciate that everything that you've done as.
[55:24] Speaker 1: It relates to that.
[55:25] Speaker 11: Furthermore, it's really important that as we continue to to
[55:28] Speaker 11: uplift him, we also have to pay real attention to
[55:32] Speaker 11: whenever this autopsy is going to be released, shout out
[55:35] Speaker 11: to Colin kaepernickuse He's been in the news a lot
[55:37] Speaker 11: this weekend for reasons that shouldn't have been in the
[55:39] Speaker 11: news relating to jay Z. But he was busy doing
[55:41] Speaker 11: the work and paying for part of this autopsy, and
[55:44] Speaker 11: when that comes out, so much more is going to
[55:46] Speaker 11: be explained. So I'm not paying attention to any of
[55:48] Speaker 11: these friends, any of these other family. I'm not family,
[55:51] Speaker 11: any of the any of these friends, any of these judges, parents,
[55:54] Speaker 11: you know, faan, members of those friends who are coming out,
[55:57] Speaker 11: I'm not paying them any attention because real solid cases
[56:01] Speaker 11: being built. There's nobody better in the business to do
[56:03] Speaker 11: that than Benjamin Crump. And as it was said, we
[56:06] Speaker 11: need to continue to uplift him. I'm seeing videos of
[56:08] Speaker 11: Nolan on my feet every day and he just, you know,
[56:11] Speaker 11: so aligned, so energetic, so happy, and it was just
[56:15] Speaker 11: taken for reasons we don't know yet, but those reasons
[56:18] Speaker 11: are going to come out if we continue to keep
[56:20] Speaker 11: our finger on the button. And I know that we're
[56:23] Speaker 11: going to do it here and everybody needs to know
[56:25] Speaker 11: that we're going to keep doing that here.
[56:26] Speaker 6: Oh absolutely. I had somebody I comment, I want my
[56:29] Speaker 6: post on Instagram, like, where's your Nolan Will's coverage. I'm like, yo, ass,
[56:34] Speaker 6: you've been in a coma. I'm like and I said,
[56:39] Speaker 6: and people are like, oh, you gotta be nice about it.
[56:41] Speaker 6: I'm like, no, I said, I said, don't you ever
[56:44] Speaker 6: come on my page saying some nonsense like that without
[56:48] Speaker 6: checking your damn facts. They got real quiet. All right, folks,
[56:52] Speaker 6: let's talk about the issue environmental justice. On July eighth,
[56:55] Speaker 6: the Bartlement of Justice Warren one hundred new attorneys and
[56:57] Speaker 6: staff members in the Civil Rights Division. It pretty much
[57:01] Speaker 6: looked like a clan meeting. These individuals are responsible for
[57:06] Speaker 6: enforcing some of the nation's most important anti discrimination laws.
[57:10] Speaker 6: That's your new civil rights lawyers. Okay, gotcha with this
[57:17] Speaker 6: team in place. What does that mean for the future
[57:23] Speaker 6: of civil rights in this country? It is what we
[57:25] Speaker 6: know under our meat, Dylan, this Department of Justice does
[57:30] Speaker 6: not actually give a damn about civil rights what they
[57:33] Speaker 6: care about or white people what they care about our
[57:37] Speaker 6: white rights. They are attacking civil rights if it impacts
[57:41] Speaker 6: black people in other people of color. In fact, they
[57:45] Speaker 6: have sued states when it comes to voting, when it
[57:49] Speaker 6: comes to the EOC you name it, and so this
[57:54] Speaker 6: and also do you understand that the Department of Justice
[57:59] Speaker 6: was literally created to protect black people from races in
[58:04] Speaker 6: the South yep. So we look at the history of
[58:07] Speaker 6: the Department of Justice and the Civil Rights Division and
[58:09] Speaker 6: the work it did obviously with Bobby Kennedy in the
[58:12] Speaker 6: nineteen sixties. Christian Clark led it under President Joe Biden,
[58:16] Speaker 6: we're talking about an apartment that really impacts everything in
[58:22] Speaker 6: this country when it comes to our civil rights. But
[58:26] Speaker 6: what Donald Trump cares about are white people. What Donald
[58:31] Speaker 6: Trump cares about are defending them. In fact, this is
[58:34] Speaker 6: so interesting. I was giving, you know, give me a second.
[58:37] Speaker 6: I was reading Howard Bryant's book, Kings and Pawns. And
[58:45] Speaker 6: you know, whenever you hear these simple simon negroes who
[58:49] Speaker 6: love themselves some Republicans, you notice they never ever bringing
[58:56] Speaker 6: these things up. So Howard was talking about out Jackie
[59:01] Speaker 6: Robinson and his dissatisfaction with the Republican Party. And if
[59:08] Speaker 6: anybody actually read his book I never had it made,
[59:12] Speaker 6: you will then understand exactly what he was talking about.
[59:18] Speaker 6: But he also talked about Jackie Robinson writing a piece
[59:26] Speaker 6: in a newspaper because Jackie Robinson, which I didn't even realize,
[59:29] Speaker 6: he was the first black sports columnist in the country
[59:32] Speaker 6: when he started writing a column for a New York newspaper,
[59:36] Speaker 6: and so it talked about his frustration with the Republican
[59:43] Speaker 6: Party their refusal to care about issues that impacted African Americans.
[59:54] Speaker 6: He often was was critical of Richard Nixon, Dwight eisenhowerd
[59:58] Speaker 6: he campaigned against Barry Goldwater as well. But it was
[1:00:05] Speaker 6: interesting in this one. Wait. Basically he questioned, is the
[1:00:09] Speaker 6: Republican Party of the Party of white men showed the photo? Again?
[1:00:17] Speaker 6: That's a excellent question that he posed. I believe was
[1:00:21] Speaker 6: nineteen sixty nine. And what we have to recognize is, yeah,
[1:00:30] Speaker 6: we talked about civil rights in this country. That's what
[1:00:32] Speaker 6: these folks are. They laid it out in Project twenty
[1:00:37] Speaker 6: twenty five, Zachary. We kept trying to explain to people
[1:00:39] Speaker 6: that this Department of Justice, this Civil Rights Division, Donald
[1:00:42] Speaker 6: Trump did not give a damn by black people. They
[1:00:45] Speaker 6: were going to target black people. There's a war on
[1:00:48] Speaker 6: black people. It is the defunding of Black America. And
[1:00:52] Speaker 6: this is a reality.
[1:00:56] Speaker 13: This administration wants to continuous to see black and brown
[1:01:01] Speaker 13: people die. We know what happened today in Maine, we
[1:01:04] Speaker 13: know what happened last week in Texas, and now we
[1:01:06] Speaker 13: look at what's happening in the continuous assaults in Cancer
[1:01:10] Speaker 13: Alley of Black Lives. That's representative. I think Troy Carter's
[1:01:14] Speaker 13: district in Louisiana, where you have the insanely insubbording amount
[1:01:19] Speaker 13: of cancer causing towers and chemical plans and processing plants,
[1:01:25] Speaker 13: so that the Republicans who leave that state are going
[1:01:27] Speaker 13: to make money and make revenue, while the black residents
[1:01:30] Speaker 13: of that state who live a law cancer alley suffer
[1:01:32] Speaker 13: lifelong consequences and generational harm and health damages. And we
[1:01:36] Speaker 13: had small steps, small steps by our government under the
[1:01:40] Speaker 13: Joe Biden administration to rectify the past wrongs, to help
[1:01:43] Speaker 13: build these communities back up, to help take away the
[1:01:45] Speaker 13: environmental pollutons, only to see Trump come in and undo
[1:01:48] Speaker 13: all of that work, undo all of that progress, to
[1:01:50] Speaker 13: put us right back to where we are. It is devastating,
[1:01:53] Speaker 13: it's disappointing, and there's no similus of environmental justices even
[1:01:56] Speaker 13: coming anytime soon, because again, what this man is doing
[1:02:00] Speaker 13: and the four years that he's going to serve in
[1:02:02] Speaker 13: office will take decades to undo decades, and only and
[1:02:07] Speaker 13: only then if we have leaders in power who care
[1:02:10] Speaker 13: enough to undo the damage, which I can't say we will.
[1:02:14] Speaker 6: They don't care, oh my congo, and they never will.
[1:02:19] Speaker 6: And they've been there perfectly clear.
[1:02:22] Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, and I will say even in addition to
[1:02:25] Speaker 11: them not caring, they're dropping all of the cases that
[1:02:28] Speaker 11: we talked about cancer alley and other things. But they're
[1:02:31] Speaker 11: also increasing the pollution that's happening in our communities when
[1:02:34] Speaker 11: you look at what's happening with these data centers, when
[1:02:36] Speaker 11: you look at all of the regulations that Trump is
[1:02:38] Speaker 11: working almost the auto industry to get rid of some
[1:02:40] Speaker 11: of the environmental emissions. As it relates to that as well,
[1:02:43] Speaker 11: At every single step, what do you talk about we're
[1:02:46] Speaker 11: going to bring back coal. I mean, at every single step,
[1:02:48] Speaker 11: they're enacting policies that are making our communities more unhealthy.
[1:02:52] Speaker 11: And many people who are in these white oral areas,
[1:02:54] Speaker 11: these white and poverished area, these trailer park areas, they
[1:02:57] Speaker 11: should be paying attention to this as well, because they
[1:02:59] Speaker 11: were already struggling as to this, and it's going to
[1:03:01] Speaker 11: get worse as their rural hospitals close, as they get
[1:03:04] Speaker 11: less and less access. So as much as there is
[1:03:07] Speaker 11: a real attack on black and brown people in this
[1:03:09] Speaker 11: country and is being paid for by our taxpayer dollars
[1:03:12] Speaker 11: to get lawyers like that who they just hired, who
[1:03:15] Speaker 11: they're bringing in, I remember I saw a picture of
[1:03:17] Speaker 11: the White House the interns for the summer, and it
[1:03:21] Speaker 11: was the same picture.
[1:03:22] Speaker 12: But now these are just college students. They were just teenagers.
[1:03:24] Speaker 11: So what every level, he's making it wider and wider
[1:03:27] Speaker 11: and wider. And they're going to continue to get rid
[1:03:30] Speaker 11: of policies that benefited our communities in any way, shape
[1:03:32] Speaker 11: or form, like Doctor Carton, the little policies that we had,
[1:03:35] Speaker 11: and they're going to make it worse because this is
[1:03:37] Speaker 11: a man who's beholden to cold to oil, to these
[1:03:40] Speaker 11: data centers, to big tech, and they're going to do
[1:03:42] Speaker 11: everything possible to raise this country and burn it down
[1:03:46] Speaker 11: to the ground. As related to not leaving any opportunities
[1:03:49] Speaker 11: for people who don't have means to be able to
[1:03:51] Speaker 11: survive in this society, them.
[1:03:56] Speaker 14: Agree with the both of you. One thing that I
[1:04:00] Speaker 14: had to tell individuals who have asked.
[1:04:02] Speaker 11: Me what can we do?
[1:04:04] Speaker 14: Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait this out because
[1:04:09] Speaker 14: we will not get anything done up under this administration.
[1:04:13] Speaker 14: They've already shown as soon as this administration took office,
[1:04:17] Speaker 14: those departments went to smither rings. I was even told
[1:04:22] Speaker 14: by individual that worked there that looked like us before
[1:04:26] Speaker 14: they were released and removed that the department was being
[1:04:30] Speaker 14: dismantled as we knew it. So when people are asking
[1:04:34] Speaker 14: like what do we do, Unfortunately, we have to wait
[1:04:36] Speaker 14: this out, and we have to wait this out and
[1:04:39] Speaker 14: vote like our lives depending on us, because what is
[1:04:43] Speaker 14: going to happen in its next election cycle is going
[1:04:46] Speaker 14: to be dependent on us getting out and doing the
[1:04:51] Speaker 14: work as the voters to remove these bad apples. So
[1:04:55] Speaker 14: when a new administration take over, they can release the
[1:04:59] Speaker 14: bad apples that are in there right now.
[1:05:01] Speaker 7: Ain't none of them in there look like they ethical.
[1:05:04] Speaker 14: Don't none of them look like they are the holders
[1:05:06] Speaker 14: of equal protection for all. They look like they were
[1:05:10] Speaker 14: hired to do a job, and their job is to
[1:05:13] Speaker 14: be the handlers and act like handlers. So we cannot
[1:05:17] Speaker 14: trust them as we know it right now.
[1:05:19] Speaker 7: But that's why you're going to have to vote.
[1:05:23] Speaker 6: I was referencing September fifteenth, nineteen sixty three, when Jackie
[1:05:27] Speaker 6: Robinson wrote the Peace for the Saturday Evening Post that
[1:05:30] Speaker 6: was titled the GOP for White men only. When you
[1:05:33] Speaker 6: think about the issue of civil rights, when you think
[1:05:36] Speaker 6: about environmental justice, all of these issues, they do not
[1:05:41] Speaker 6: care as Omicongo and zachary A stated, we cover this.
[1:05:45] Speaker 6: We talked to the folks there, Oh, a lawsuit in
[1:05:48] Speaker 6: Cantrally disupportunately impacting black people. Joe Biden is still the
[1:05:54] Speaker 6: Rights Division. They were behind it. Trump got in said,
[1:05:58] Speaker 6: now we're getting out. They called DEI, which you've seen
[1:06:02] Speaker 6: under democratic presidents. Fights, fights against polluting industries, landfills, highways
[1:06:07] Speaker 6: disproportionately situated in communities of color, lord kame areas. This
[1:06:12] Speaker 6: administration says, oh, that's a bunch of crap. Systemic racism,
[1:06:16] Speaker 6: said Joe, you're discussing highways. That's a waste of time.
[1:06:20] Speaker 6: Jonsre Taylor saw you as a senior attorney environmental justice.
[1:06:24] Speaker 6: First of all, she's a senior attorney and Environmental Justice
[1:06:27] Speaker 6: Initiative leader at the Southern Environmental Law Centerm joining us
[1:06:29] Speaker 6: fro Chapel Hill, North Carolina'm glad to have you here.
[1:06:33] Speaker 6: What we have seen from day one from these folks.
[1:06:35] Speaker 6: They have gutted all of the efforts of the EPA.
[1:06:40] Speaker 6: We were there in North Carolina for the anniversary where
[1:06:44] Speaker 6: environmental justice was coined in North Carolina. We were there
[1:06:47] Speaker 6: covering that event, and this administration and the Republican Party
[1:06:54] Speaker 6: acts as if none of that stuff they eventually they
[1:06:56] Speaker 6: act like it it's all fiction and none of them
[1:06:59] Speaker 6: was discussed in number that has happened on the last
[1:07:01] Speaker 6: forty years is real, billin.
[1:07:08] Speaker 7: Should I jump in?
[1:07:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Oh well, I mean absolutely.
[1:07:13] Speaker 5: That's what we have come to see with this administration. So,
[1:07:17] Speaker 5: as you said, I'm a senior attorney at Southern Environmental
[1:07:20] Speaker 5: Law Center. I lead our Environmental Justice Initiative, and our
[1:07:24] Speaker 5: work is really focused on making sure that black communities,
[1:07:28] Speaker 5: poor communities, vulnerable communities are not continuing to bear the
[1:07:32] Speaker 5: disproportionate burden of environmental harm and are in a place
[1:07:36] Speaker 5: that they are able to be that we're able to
[1:07:38] Speaker 5: be more resilient when there are more climate crisis driven
[1:07:44] Speaker 5: weather events. So what we're seeing right now with this
[1:07:48] Speaker 5: administration includes federal funding rollbacks. As you alluded to the
[1:07:54] Speaker 5: conflation of diversity, equity and inclusion with environmental justice. This
[1:07:58] Speaker 5: has resulted in the elimination of the Office of Environmental Justice,
[1:08:03] Speaker 5: the elimination of the Environmental Protection Agency external Office of
[1:08:07] Speaker 5: Civil Rights, cuts to hundreds of federal jobs. That these
[1:08:11] Speaker 5: were people who were committed to making sure that these
[1:08:16] Speaker 5: environmental threats were not disproportionately born by people who have
[1:08:20] Speaker 5: been underserved and overburdened for far too long. We saw
[1:08:24] Speaker 5: the elimination of the Justice forty initiative that was going
[1:08:27] Speaker 5: to make sure that certain federal benefits that forty percent
[1:08:30] Speaker 5: of them went to communities that were the most vulnerable
[1:08:33] Speaker 5: and the most underserved. There's specific projects that I could
[1:08:37] Speaker 5: get into that we are not going to be able
[1:08:40] Speaker 5: to see come into fruition. These were projects that Congress
[1:08:43] Speaker 5: mandated should actually receive federal funding. These organizations were vetted
[1:08:48] Speaker 5: through months long processes, I mean in some cases years
[1:08:51] Speaker 5: long processes, and this administration and one fell swoop without
[1:08:55] Speaker 5: due consideration, cut federal funding that would actually have gone
[1:08:59] Speaker 5: to improving the environment, improving the public health of communities
[1:09:04] Speaker 5: that have not been served for far too long.
[1:09:08] Speaker 6: This is video of Michael Reagan when we were there
[1:09:11] Speaker 6: in North Carolina where they were making that announcement, where
[1:09:15] Speaker 6: they were sort of combining these various offices and really
[1:09:20] Speaker 6: strengthening the efforts to attack environmental racism and confront environmental justice.
[1:09:27] Speaker 6: And as you said, there's just been a flat out
[1:09:30] Speaker 6: gutting all of those efforts. They're just they've been wiped
[1:09:33] Speaker 6: off of the map by Donald Trump and these maggots.
[1:09:40] Speaker 5: I mean absolutely what we're I'm sorry. Were you going
[1:09:44] Speaker 5: to move to the video or should I continue to talk?
[1:09:47] Speaker 6: Yeah? Go ahead.
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:09:50] Speaker 5: So some of the things that we've seen, you know,
[1:09:52] Speaker 5: Democracy Green and North Carolina, you know, they were planning
[1:09:55] Speaker 5: to do a campaign to actually to actually make sure
[1:09:58] Speaker 5: that people have safe water. This organization was you know,
[1:10:03] Speaker 5: really made to be seen as if they didn't know
[1:10:06] Speaker 5: what they were doing when they have been doing this
[1:10:08] Speaker 5: work for quite you know, a really long time. You know,
[1:10:11] Speaker 5: Landforce was increasing transitional employment opportunities and providing training on
[1:10:16] Speaker 5: reusing urban treeways.
[1:10:17] Speaker 3: Their funding was cut.
[1:10:20] Speaker 5: Black Belt Unincorporated Wastewater Program in Alabama, they had funding
[1:10:25] Speaker 5: that was going to actually help make sure that there
[1:10:27] Speaker 5: was adequate wastewater treatment and rural Alabama also we saw
[1:10:31] Speaker 5: cuts to that funding. So what we you know, what
[1:10:34] Speaker 5: we're doing as an organization is engaging on every level,
[1:10:39] Speaker 5: standing beside our partner groups and our client groups to
[1:10:41] Speaker 5: make sure that people's voices are heard, participating in the
[1:10:44] Speaker 5: regulatory process, making sure that we're promoting the policies to
[1:10:49] Speaker 5: still protect communities of color. Because even even when the
[1:10:53] Speaker 5: administration tries to say that environmental justice does not exist.
[1:10:57] Speaker 5: That does not mean that we're not still facing these
[1:10:59] Speaker 5: same problems. Ones that we're not still seeing black communities
[1:11:03] Speaker 5: being twice as likely to have hazardous waste facilities cited
[1:11:06] Speaker 5: near them, that we're not still seeing higher rates of
[1:11:10] Speaker 5: asthma and black children.
[1:11:12] Speaker 3: We still see those harms.
[1:11:14] Speaker 5: So we're still working to make sure that you know
[1:11:17] Speaker 5: that we're stopping the worst facilities getting better regulations. So
[1:11:20] Speaker 5: that does look like litigation in some instances, and I
[1:11:24] Speaker 5: can get into some of that if that's where we
[1:11:27] Speaker 5: like to go next. But you know, there's definitely a
[1:11:30] Speaker 5: lot of effort that is still happening on the ground
[1:11:34] Speaker 5: to make sure that people have the best lives that
[1:11:36] Speaker 5: they envision for themselves, despite all of the efforts of
[1:11:39] Speaker 5: this administration to cut environmental justice infrastructure.
[1:11:43] Speaker 11: For the panel home at Congo, First, thank you so
[1:11:47] Speaker 11: much for all of your work and efforts and bringing
[1:11:50] Speaker 11: information about what other organizations are doing. What can people
[1:11:55] Speaker 11: like myself to You know, people who are interested in
[1:11:57] Speaker 11: activist I'm interested in our communities don't have the great
[1:12:00] Speaker 11: depth of knowledge or history in terms of the work
[1:12:02] Speaker 11: that you're doing in terms of environmental justice and may
[1:12:05] Speaker 11: not necessarily live in the communities that are directly being impacted.
[1:12:09] Speaker 11: I know, indirectly we're all suffering. But what can you know,
[1:12:12] Speaker 11: average folks, we do tell raise awareness and fight this.
[1:12:18] Speaker 5: Yeah, I think one great thing that we can all
[1:12:20] Speaker 5: look into is supporting community groups. Support supporting groups that
[1:12:25] Speaker 5: are doing environmental justice work all over the South. So
[1:12:29] Speaker 5: Rachel's Network is an organization that has looked to women
[1:12:35] Speaker 5: who are doing great work for environmental protection, and they're
[1:12:37] Speaker 5: all over the nation. I just I mentioned their name
[1:12:39] Speaker 5: because I think it's a good place to go to
[1:12:41] Speaker 5: see some of the organizations that any of us can
[1:12:45] Speaker 5: choose to support with our time, with our talent, with
[1:12:48] Speaker 5: our money, making sure that those organizations are you know,
[1:12:51] Speaker 5: actually supported. In many instances, just like federal funding has
[1:12:54] Speaker 5: been cut, you know, on to all these great organizations.
[1:12:58] Speaker 5: AJ organization are underfunded by philanthropy generally. So all of
[1:13:03] Speaker 5: the support that we can serve, that we can provide
[1:13:05] Speaker 5: to continue to help these to help our neighbors, to
[1:13:09] Speaker 5: help people who are advocating. I think that's something that
[1:13:11] Speaker 5: we can all that we can all do, you know,
[1:13:13] Speaker 5: Petitioning Decision makers as issues that are important to you
[1:13:18] Speaker 5: show up on the local level, then making sure that
[1:13:21] Speaker 5: the decision makers know what you'd like to see done.
[1:13:24] Speaker 3: You know, one example that I think is.
[1:13:25] Speaker 5: Really helpful to think about is the proliferation of data centers.
[1:13:29] Speaker 5: Data centers are you know, what we're seeing is in
[1:13:32] Speaker 5: many cases they're popping up in communities that you know
[1:13:35] Speaker 5: have been frontline to environmental harm, or in many instances
[1:13:38] Speaker 5: there's rural communities that you know, have been neglected in
[1:13:41] Speaker 5: terms of services. What we're seeing now is a number
[1:13:44] Speaker 5: of moratoria. The last time I look nationwide, I think
[1:13:47] Speaker 5: is one hundred and fifty five moratoria thirty two of
[1:13:50] Speaker 5: those moratory that have been issued or in the state
[1:13:52] Speaker 5: of North Carolina.
[1:13:53] Speaker 3: So you know, as the South goes, so goes the nation.
[1:13:56] Speaker 5: Look to making sure that you know, decision makers are
[1:14:00] Speaker 5: getting all of the information about how these data centers operate,
[1:14:03] Speaker 5: how much, what do they use, how much.
[1:14:05] Speaker 3: Rates will increase?
[1:14:07] Speaker 5: What you know, what is the land use going to
[1:14:09] Speaker 5: be like when we get to the aftermath of these
[1:14:11] Speaker 5: data centers. But people are speaking out, they're letting decision
[1:14:15] Speaker 5: makers know what the problem is. One thing I also
[1:14:17] Speaker 5: like for people to consider doing. We have a multimedia
[1:14:20] Speaker 5: storytelling project Plantations to Pollution Black Communities, Legacy pollution in
[1:14:24] Speaker 5: the Path Forward. It's uh, there's a separate website. I
[1:14:28] Speaker 5: would suggest that people go to it, and it really shows,
[1:14:32] Speaker 5: like really the unbroken line between plantation and slavery in
[1:14:34] Speaker 5: the United States and present day environmental racism. It really
[1:14:39] Speaker 5: is showing how communities that were in the shadow of
[1:14:41] Speaker 5: former plantations, they built themselves up nearby, you know, post
[1:14:45] Speaker 5: enslavement as free people, built whole, wonderful communities, but still
[1:14:50] Speaker 5: ended up, you know, because of a legacy of racism,
[1:14:52] Speaker 5: you know, being underserved, finding projects like highway projects that
[1:14:57] Speaker 5: have split up communities, Uh, seeing more ultiple polluting facilities
[1:15:01] Speaker 5: locate in these black communities.
[1:15:03] Speaker 3: They're seeing this harm.
[1:15:05] Speaker 5: So I think going to that multimedia storytelling project, seeing
[1:15:09] Speaker 5: what that unbroken line looks like, I think it actually helps,
[1:15:12] Speaker 5: you know, illuminate some of the issues that we will
[1:15:15] Speaker 5: that we see pop up over.
[1:15:16] Speaker 3: And over again all over the nation.
[1:15:18] Speaker 5: It's a repeated story of how systemic racism results in
[1:15:22] Speaker 5: this present day disproportionate burden of environmental harm on black.
[1:15:25] Speaker 3: Communities, under serve communities poor communities.
[1:15:28] Speaker 6: Let's go to film, good evening.
[1:15:34] Speaker 14: Thank you for all that you do and what people
[1:15:37] Speaker 14: would consider not the sexy area of the law, but
[1:15:40] Speaker 14: it is the most important area because we're talking about
[1:15:43] Speaker 14: environmental environmental protections. One question that I have because I
[1:15:49] Speaker 14: don't want to escape the roles and responsibility of our
[1:15:53] Speaker 14: local elected officials because they are on the grounds.
[1:15:56] Speaker 7: They get to see, they get.
[1:15:58] Speaker 14: To hear, they know what's into our counties, our cities,
[1:16:03] Speaker 14: and sometimes they say nothing. So what do you recommend
[1:16:09] Speaker 14: for the average resident within these counties that are very
[1:16:13] Speaker 14: vocal in their within their local elections, as well as
[1:16:17] Speaker 14: holding politicians accountable when we are not being told about
[1:16:21] Speaker 14: what's going on in the environment but we find out
[1:16:24] Speaker 14: after the fact, are there resources or standards that we
[1:16:28] Speaker 14: can utilize in order to make sure that they are
[1:16:32] Speaker 14: being transparent Because we often find out things after the fact,
[1:16:36] Speaker 14: so we don't know what's going on, but if we
[1:16:38] Speaker 14: know how to approach these individuals, they can run from
[1:16:43] Speaker 14: being transparent for the most part.
[1:16:47] Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think foundational to the protection of
[1:16:50] Speaker 5: all of our other rights, of course, is our right
[1:16:52] Speaker 5: to vote. What we all have seen recently with the
[1:16:55] Speaker 5: decision in Louisiana versus Calais. With the gutting of the
[1:16:58] Speaker 5: Voting Rights Act, it is made can get much more
[1:17:01] Speaker 5: difficult for black communities to actually make sure we're able
[1:17:04] Speaker 5: to elect the representatives who are not going to hide
[1:17:08] Speaker 5: the ball, who are not going to keep that information
[1:17:10] Speaker 5: from us. Political power is essential to actually eliminating environmental racism,
[1:17:16] Speaker 5: to promoting environmental justice.
[1:17:18] Speaker 3: So doing all that we can to.
[1:17:20] Speaker 5: Actually participate in the electoral process ourselves, to you know,
[1:17:25] Speaker 5: be very rigorous in our review of who is running
[1:17:29] Speaker 5: for elected office, to put pressure on people who are
[1:17:32] Speaker 5: currently in decision making roles, whether that is on the
[1:17:36] Speaker 5: local level with planning boards, if it's you know, the
[1:17:40] Speaker 5: mayor of the town or the chair of the board
[1:17:42] Speaker 5: of county commissioners, up into our state representatives and members
[1:17:46] Speaker 5: of Congress, we want to put pressure on them to
[1:17:49] Speaker 5: know that we want that information, we want to be.
[1:17:52] Speaker 3: Included in the process. So let's make sure that we're engaging.
[1:17:56] Speaker 5: In every way to protect the rights to vote and
[1:17:59] Speaker 5: to be able to to get people in decision making
[1:18:03] Speaker 5: roles that actually care about our interests, care about our
[1:18:06] Speaker 5: health care, about the environment that we live in, work
[1:18:08] Speaker 5: in play in Learning.
[1:18:10] Speaker 13: Xaveryth Attorney and Taylor Saya, thank you so much for
[1:18:14] Speaker 13: all that you have done.
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: I really appreciate you being here.
[1:18:17] Speaker 13: One of the best things about roldand Martin UNFIELDDA is
[1:18:19] Speaker 13: that he brings such amazing guests to the audience and
[1:18:22] Speaker 13: he shares these really great, diverse respectives. I want to
[1:18:25] Speaker 13: be aspirational for that audience right now and talk and
[1:18:28] Speaker 13: ask two questions about the future.
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: When Leader Hakim Jeffries becomes the.
[1:18:36] Speaker 13: Speaker of the House of Representatives and Democrats take control
[1:18:40] Speaker 13: in a couple of months and start in January twenty
[1:18:43] Speaker 13: twenty seven, what's the first thing that you want to
[1:18:46] Speaker 13: see them do to take a step forward in regardless
[1:18:48] Speaker 13: to environmental justice. And the second part of that question
[1:18:51] Speaker 13: is is that when we have a Democrat assume the
[1:18:53] Speaker 13: presidency in twenty twenty nine after the twenty twenty election,
[1:18:57] Speaker 13: what's the first thing you want to see that president do.
[1:19:01] Speaker 3: Well.
[1:19:01] Speaker 5: I would say there have to be expectations of corporations.
[1:19:05] Speaker 5: They are on the front line of where we see
[1:19:07] Speaker 5: this environmental harm starting, and we don't have to wait
[1:19:11] Speaker 5: like it doesn't always have to be that that the
[1:19:14] Speaker 5: corporations wait for the law to actually tell them how
[1:19:18] Speaker 5: much they can pollute. We can make sure that there
[1:19:22] Speaker 5: are incentives in place to actually do right by communities,
[1:19:25] Speaker 5: to do right by the people who are going to be,
[1:19:28] Speaker 5: you know, in proximity to in proximity to polluting facilities.
[1:19:33] Speaker 5: So you know, so in addition to making sure that
[1:19:36] Speaker 5: corporations have incentives to actually do the right thing by
[1:19:39] Speaker 5: communities because they're going to be the place that you
[1:19:42] Speaker 5: know is actually often causing harm, we want to make
[1:19:45] Speaker 5: sure that, you know, we see some good legislation, that
[1:19:49] Speaker 5: we actually get some legs under the Environmental Justice for
[1:19:51] Speaker 5: All at that we actually see the restoration of the
[1:19:56] Speaker 5: Voting Rights Act, so much of it has been whittled away.
[1:19:59] Speaker 5: Actually seeing something happen with that, and I think too,
[1:20:03] Speaker 5: restoration of great programs that we saw that were really
[1:20:06] Speaker 5: breathing life into the environmental justice movement from the prior administration.
[1:20:11] Speaker 5: So you know, like federal funding that was sitting there
[1:20:13] Speaker 5: that didn't get to the places that it should be.
[1:20:15] Speaker 5: We want to see that actually go to communities that
[1:20:18] Speaker 5: needed to improve the help of those communities, to improve
[1:20:22] Speaker 5: the environment of those communities.
[1:20:24] Speaker 3: I mean, hope isn't passive. It's persistence.
[1:20:27] Speaker 5: The communities that we work with show us that progress
[1:20:30] Speaker 5: happens when people are heard and supported. So people speaking
[1:20:33] Speaker 5: out to make sure you know that the next Congress,
[1:20:36] Speaker 5: that the next executive knows that we want this. It's
[1:20:40] Speaker 5: extraordinarily important. So every time communities stand up to a polluter,
[1:20:44] Speaker 5: they're rewriting what's possible. And I think really that's what
[1:20:47] Speaker 5: can keep us going while we are, you know, waiting
[1:20:49] Speaker 5: to see, while we're waiting to get to that next
[1:20:52] Speaker 5: place where the leadership changes and we can expect better
[1:20:56] Speaker 5: things for all of us.
[1:21:00] Speaker 6: Shander Michelle, appreciate it.
[1:21:01] Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, Thank you, appreciate it.
[1:21:04] Speaker 6: Good night folks. Today, House Democrat Leader how King Jeffries
[1:21:10] Speaker 6: spoke and he laid into Donald Trump over his refusal
[1:21:15] Speaker 6: to sign a bipartisan housing bill that was driven by
[1:21:18] Speaker 6: Congresswoman Maxine Waters in the House. He also had something
[1:21:23] Speaker 6: to say about the extreme court and their racist attacks,
[1:21:29] Speaker 6: racist decisions when it comes to voting. Just check it out,
[1:21:34] Speaker 6: all right. One.
[1:21:37] Speaker 19: Donald Trump promised the American people that Republicans would lower
[1:21:42] Speaker 19: the high cost of living on day one, but costs
[1:21:45] Speaker 19: having gone down during Donald Trump's presidency, costs have gone up.
[1:21:51] Speaker 19: Donald Trump promised that ICE enforcement in this country would
[1:21:58] Speaker 19: target the worst of the world, but instead billions of
[1:22:04] Speaker 19: taxpayer dollars are being used by ICE to brutalize and
[1:22:10] Speaker 19: kill American citizens and violently target law abiding immigrant families
[1:22:19] Speaker 19: and communities, including in Maine. Earlier today, Donald Trump promised
[1:22:28] Speaker 19: that he was elected not to start wars in the
[1:22:32] Speaker 19: Middle East, but to stop them. He then turned around,
[1:22:38] Speaker 19: along with compliant Republicans, and launched a reckless and costly
[1:22:45] Speaker 19: war of choice in Iran that's ongoing and now has
[1:22:51] Speaker 19: been taking place for more than one hundred days, with
[1:22:56] Speaker 19: over one hundred billion dollars in taxpayer money being wasted,
[1:23:02] Speaker 19: while leaving Iran in a stronger position than they were
[1:23:07] Speaker 19: in before the war, and the American people economically in
[1:23:11] Speaker 19: a weaker position, particularly as it relates to high gas prices.
[1:23:19] Speaker 19: Donald Trump and the Republican majority in the House in
[1:23:22] Speaker 19: the Senate has been a complete and total failure.
[1:23:25] Speaker 6: Life hasn't gotten.
[1:23:26] Speaker 19: Better on the Republicans in Washington, d C. It's gotten
[1:23:29] Speaker 19: much worse. And as House Democrats, we continue to be
[1:23:34] Speaker 19: committed to doing the things that are necessary to drive
[1:23:38] Speaker 19: down the high cost of living, fix our broken healthcare system,
[1:23:42] Speaker 19: get ice under control in the reckless and costly war
[1:23:46] Speaker 19: of choice in the Middle East, and clean up corruption
[1:23:50] Speaker 19: in this town questions. We have advanced multiple war powers
[1:24:03] Speaker 19: resolutions up until this point, and we will continue to
[1:24:07] Speaker 19: use every legislative tool available to end Donald Trump and
[1:24:12] Speaker 19: the Republican reckless and costly war of choice.
[1:24:15] Speaker 6: In a round.
[1:24:18] Speaker 19: Is litigation an option for House Democrats and trying to
[1:24:21] Speaker 19: force any kind of action on the war powers resolutions
[1:24:24] Speaker 19: that were previously passed. What's in front of us right
[1:24:26] Speaker 19: now relates to the legislative process and the appropriations process,
[1:24:31] Speaker 19: and the notion that Republicans are prepared as early as
[1:24:35] Speaker 19: this Wednesday to move another budget.
[1:24:40] Speaker 9: To give.
[1:24:42] Speaker 19: The so called Department of War more than seventy five
[1:24:48] Speaker 19: billion dollars at least to continue Operation epic Failure in
[1:24:55] Speaker 19: the Middle East. And I'm pretty confident that every single
[1:25:01] Speaker 19: House Democrat will strongly oppose this effort, and the same
[1:25:05] Speaker 19: will take place in the Senate. And what we need
[1:25:08] Speaker 19: to do is to stop this effort to use taxpayer
[1:25:12] Speaker 19: dollars to continue this failed war in the Middle East
[1:25:17] Speaker 19: that the American people have rejected from the beginning.
[1:25:22] Speaker 20: And have soured on even.
[1:25:23] Speaker 12: More over the last several months.
[1:25:28] Speaker 20: Bass Letter, the grand platiner of the recess, dropped out
[1:25:33] Speaker 20: of the main Senate racer Stetdy would dropp out of.
[1:25:35] Speaker 1: The main Senate race.
[1:25:36] Speaker 20: Your action to the act to that, Are there any
[1:25:38] Speaker 20: lessons that can be learned going forward as far as
[1:25:40] Speaker 20: vetting candidates no matter what sea they're running for.
[1:25:42] Speaker 19: I as you the statement relative to him dropping out,
[1:25:47] Speaker 19: urging him to end his campaign immediately. That's been done,
[1:25:53] Speaker 19: and now it's in the hands of the people of
[1:25:56] Speaker 19: Maine to decide who will be the best Democrats nominee
[1:26:01] Speaker 19: to flip that seat and defeat Susan Collins. At the
[1:26:05] Speaker 19: same period of time, when it comes to our efforts
[1:26:11] Speaker 19: in the House to flip a handful of seats that
[1:26:15] Speaker 19: will be needed in order for us to start to
[1:26:18] Speaker 19: end this national nightmare in the United States of America
[1:26:21] Speaker 19: and take back control of the House. We've had incredible
[1:26:25] Speaker 19: candidates step forward and emerge all across the country, including
[1:26:32] Speaker 19: combat veterans, doctors, farmers, educators, smoke jumpers, firefighters, law enforcement officers,
[1:26:48] Speaker 19: and even a Tahano music star in South Texas. We
[1:26:53] Speaker 19: have incredible candidates all across the country, and it's one
[1:26:58] Speaker 19: of the many reasons why I'm confident that on that
[1:27:02] Speaker 19: first Tuesday in November, we're going to take back control
[1:27:04] Speaker 19: of the House of Representatives.
[1:27:06] Speaker 6: One of those clip opportunities is Michigan seventh District.
[1:27:10] Speaker 20: The Congressional Black Caucus over the weekend put out a
[1:27:12] Speaker 20: statement saying anyone's supporting Will Lawrence, one of the lefting
[1:27:16] Speaker 20: Canids running, should announce their support.
[1:27:18] Speaker 21: He had hateful comments.
[1:27:19] Speaker 20: They said, do you agree with what the Congressional Black
[1:27:22] Speaker 20: Caucus pac said and one of your thoughts on that
[1:27:24] Speaker 20: Democratic primary.
[1:27:25] Speaker 19: I haven't had a conversation with the chair the Congressional
[1:27:28] Speaker 19: Black Caucus or the chair of the Pack, but those
[1:27:31] Speaker 19: comments were brought to my attention and they are deeply disturbing.
[1:27:38] Speaker 5: Thank you.
[1:27:38] Speaker 21: Have you had the chance to meet with Brod Linder
[1:27:41] Speaker 21: or any other New York progressive winners since their primaries.
[1:27:45] Speaker 19: Yes, I've talked to several of them, and we'll have
[1:27:51] Speaker 19: more to say about it in the future.
[1:27:55] Speaker 10: Thank you.
[1:27:56] Speaker 5: Lad.
[1:27:56] Speaker 21: Senator Lindsey Gram was known for his ability to work
[1:28:00] Speaker 21: across the aisle. But then you have Schumer, you have Pelosi,
[1:28:04] Speaker 21: Joe Biden, and John McCain. And this is like the
[1:28:09] Speaker 21: little Guard politicians who were able to verfick in the
[1:28:12] Speaker 21: culture of their by fatisan relationship were possible and offer
[1:28:16] Speaker 21: often necessary.
[1:28:17] Speaker 10: So what are your views on the state.
[1:28:19] Speaker 21: Of bye fatisanship today in America and how do you
[1:28:24] Speaker 21: intend as a leader to guard those values going forward?
[1:28:29] Speaker 19: Well, let me again offer uh thoughts and prayers and
[1:28:34] Speaker 19: condolences to the family of Lindsay Graham, to his friends,
[1:28:40] Speaker 19: to his loved ones, to his Senate colleagues, and of
[1:28:43] Speaker 19: course to Uh. His constituents. Disagreed on a whole host
[1:28:47] Speaker 19: of issues, but he was someone who was committed to
[1:28:50] Speaker 19: a lifetime of service, and on occasion, I think, particularly
[1:28:58] Speaker 19: when he was closely aligned with John McCain, leaned into
[1:29:03] Speaker 19: the importance of trying to actually get things done in
[1:29:07] Speaker 19: a bipartisan way for the American people.
[1:29:12] Speaker 6: In my view, house.
[1:29:13] Speaker 19: Democrats have made clear from the very beginning of this
[1:29:16] Speaker 19: Congress that we will work with anyone, anytime, in any
[1:29:19] Speaker 19: place in order to solve problems on behalf of the
[1:29:22] Speaker 19: American people. The big problem that we've confronted is that
[1:29:25] Speaker 19: Donald Trump hasn't been interested in making life better for
[1:29:28] Speaker 19: everyday Americans right now. He's just focused on trying to
[1:29:32] Speaker 19: rig the midterm elections. This is the reason why he
[1:29:36] Speaker 19: did not sign a bipartisan housing bill on affordability into law.
[1:29:44] Speaker 19: That bill was bipartisan and was worked on in the
[1:29:48] Speaker 19: House led by Maxine Waters. She did a tremendous job
[1:29:52] Speaker 19: in partnership with Senator Elizabeth Warren who also did a
[1:29:56] Speaker 19: tremendous job, and every single Democrat in the House of Representatives,
[1:30:02] Speaker 19: from the most progressive to the most centrist and all
[1:30:05] Speaker 19: points in between, supported that housing affordability bill, which was
[1:30:10] Speaker 19: then sent to Donald Trump's desk, and he ignored it
[1:30:16] Speaker 19: through a temper tantrum and was uninterested in actually signing
[1:30:19] Speaker 19: it because Donald Trump has made clear he doesn't give
[1:30:22] Speaker 19: a damn about making life more affordable for the American people.
[1:30:26] Speaker 19: As House Democrats, we do an exhibit A is the
[1:30:32] Speaker 19: housing Affordability Bill led by House and Senate Democrats in
[1:30:38] Speaker 19: partnership with French Hill to get something important done for
[1:30:42] Speaker 19: the American people.
[1:30:45] Speaker 5: Thank you here.
[1:30:47] Speaker 9: Dark for a month now, has there been any discussions regarding.
[1:30:52] Speaker 6: That anything happening you know, behind the scenes forgetting.
[1:30:56] Speaker 19: That you know, there have been no direct conversations between
[1:31:00] Speaker 19: the Trump administration and members of House Democratic leadership over
[1:31:03] Speaker 19: the last several weeks in connection with surveillance authority, opposition
[1:31:07] Speaker 19: has remained clear. It is irresponsible to expect the American
[1:31:14] Speaker 19: people to trust Donald Trump, Cash Betel, and Bill Pulty
[1:31:18] Speaker 19: with the privacy of the American people, And under no
[1:31:22] Speaker 19: circumstances is that in any way a logical thing to
[1:31:28] Speaker 19: expect House or Senate Democrats to sign off on. Given
[1:31:32] Speaker 19: the repeated abuses by the Trump administration in terms of
[1:31:38] Speaker 19: weaponizing the authority that they have within the Department of Justice,
[1:31:45] Speaker 19: but not limited to the Department of Justice, the Trump
[1:31:50] Speaker 19: administration at this point is just not serious about solving
[1:31:54] Speaker 19: problems for the American people. They continue on to jam
[1:32:00] Speaker 19: extreme individuals and their extreme ideology down the throats of
[1:32:05] Speaker 19: the American people, and from the perspective of House Democrats,
[1:32:08] Speaker 19: we're just not going to go along with it. And
[1:32:12] Speaker 19: that has been the case. We've battled them as it
[1:32:15] Speaker 19: relates to their efforts to destroy healthcare in America, We've
[1:32:23] Speaker 19: battled them as it relates to ice brutality, and we'll
[1:32:27] Speaker 19: continue to do so. We're battling them as it relates
[1:32:31] Speaker 19: to their reckless and costly war of choice, which has
[1:32:35] Speaker 19: been a disaster for the American people, and we're going
[1:32:39] Speaker 19: to continue to battle them with respect to their efforts
[1:32:41] Speaker 19: to overreach when it comes to surveillance authority and AFFISA extension.
[1:32:50] Speaker 20: I wanted to get you to the Supreme Court's term
[1:32:53] Speaker 20: now that it is completely wrapped up. After the Cali decision.
[1:32:56] Speaker 20: You called it legitimate, You called it the Trump Court.
[1:32:58] Speaker 20: But this term, the Court has ruled against Trump on
[1:33:02] Speaker 20: issues like citizenship, like tariffs. Given those rulings, is it
[1:33:06] Speaker 20: fair to call the Supreme Court?
[1:33:09] Speaker 19: I said that the majority as constructed had severe credibility problems.
[1:33:16] Speaker 19: Let me put it politely in that fashion, and anyone
[1:33:21] Speaker 19: paying attention to the court the gutting of the Voting
[1:33:28] Speaker 19: Rights Act and unleashing Jim Crow like tactics on black Americans,
[1:33:34] Speaker 19: particularly in the Deep South, would understand the illegitimacy of
[1:33:40] Speaker 19: that decision. It didn't lack any credible basis in law
[1:33:46] Speaker 19: or in fact. And the Supreme Court then doubled down
[1:33:50] Speaker 19: on the fact that they're completely and totally out of
[1:33:52] Speaker 19: control in this area. When a three judge panel, all
[1:33:58] Speaker 19: appointed by Republican presidents in Alabama, two of whom appointed
[1:34:04] Speaker 19: by Donald Trump and one of whom was appointed by
[1:34:08] Speaker 19: Ronald Reagan, decided in in a unanimous decision after Calais
[1:34:14] Speaker 19: that the map that Alabama Republicans wanted to use was
[1:34:18] Speaker 19: racially discriminatory against black folks in the state of Alabama.
[1:34:24] Speaker 19: Three judge panel, two Trump appointed judges made that declaration,
[1:34:29] Speaker 19: and the Supreme Court overturned it. So they have no
[1:34:34] Speaker 19: credibility zip zero in this area. They also lack credibility
[1:34:43] Speaker 19: as it relates to the fact that this unbridled corruption
[1:34:48] Speaker 19: that's being unleashed on the American people. And the reason
[1:34:50] Speaker 19: why House Democrats are committed to cleaning up corruption in
[1:34:54] Speaker 19: the United States of America is because if you've got
[1:34:57] Speaker 19: people in power like Donald Trump and his Republican sick
[1:35:03] Speaker 19: offense who do nothing but bend the need to him
[1:35:06] Speaker 19: within the administration and here in Congress, if you've got
[1:35:09] Speaker 19: people in power who are so focused on enriching themselves,
[1:35:14] Speaker 19: their family members, their friends, and their donors, then they're
[1:35:16] Speaker 19: not focused on solving problems for the American people. So
[1:35:20] Speaker 19: we have a big problem with that on behalf of
[1:35:23] Speaker 19: everyday Americans, which is why as part of our affordability
[1:35:27] Speaker 19: agenda and solving problems for the American people. We're committed
[1:35:31] Speaker 19: to cleaning up corruption in this town. If one were
[1:35:36] Speaker 19: to say, why are we facing such unbridled corruption by
[1:35:40] Speaker 19: Donald Trump? In fact, the one point eight billion dollar
[1:35:45] Speaker 19: slush fund for violent January sixth insurrectionists earlier today, declared
[1:35:53] Speaker 19: illegitimate by a federal judge lawsuit brought by Donald Trump,
[1:36:01] Speaker 19: was a complete and total sham that was designed to
[1:36:06] Speaker 19: bring about a situation where they could fake a settlement,
[1:36:12] Speaker 19: enrich people who brutally beat police officers on January sixth,
[1:36:17] Speaker 19: and then give blanket immunity to tax investigations from the
[1:36:23] Speaker 19: irs for Donald Trump and his family. The whole thing
[1:36:30] Speaker 19: is a Ponzi scheme that has now been unraveled by
[1:36:35] Speaker 19: a federal court. But what unleashed all of this corruption
[1:36:40] Speaker 19: too numerous for me to mention. I would be here
[1:36:43] Speaker 19: all day and all night and throughout the rest of
[1:36:46] Speaker 19: the week detailing the corruption that has been on leased
[1:36:49] Speaker 19: on the American people. It was the Supreme Court in
[1:36:52] Speaker 19: two thousand and twenty four, in the Trump v. United
[1:36:57] Speaker 19: States decision, where six right wing conservative justices.
[1:37:03] Speaker 6: On this court.
[1:37:07] Speaker 19: Gave Donald Trump as president blanket immunity to unleash a
[1:37:16] Speaker 19: crime wave on the American people and enrich himself. That
[1:37:21] Speaker 19: all traces back to that Supreme Court decision in Trump
[1:37:24] Speaker 19: the United States. So yes, in my view, there is
[1:37:29] Speaker 19: zero credibility in that decision as well, and look at
[1:37:33] Speaker 19: what it has unleashed on the American people.
[1:37:38] Speaker 22: We're getting closer to August, recession and prime campaign season.
[1:37:42] Speaker 22: Are you going to roll out, as House Democrats like
[1:37:45] Speaker 22: an HR one for the new Congress is not necessarily
[1:37:48] Speaker 22: a contract with America.
[1:37:49] Speaker 1: But something like that.
[1:37:49] Speaker 22: I mean, I know, obviously substantively you're talking about anti corruption, affordability,
[1:37:53] Speaker 22: et cetera.
[1:37:53] Speaker 3: But is there going to be like a bill that
[1:37:55] Speaker 3: you all are going to say this is going to be.
[1:37:58] Speaker 19: The Democratic Policy and Communications Committee, under the leadership of
[1:38:02] Speaker 19: DeBie Dingol, has done a great job of engaging with
[1:38:07] Speaker 19: people all across the ideological spectrum within the House Democratic
[1:38:10] Speaker 19: Caucus family, and it's my expectation that they will present
[1:38:15] Speaker 19: to the Caucus at some point in the next few
[1:38:18] Speaker 19: weeks in advance of the August district work period about
[1:38:24] Speaker 19: you know, continuing to articulate an affirmative vision related to
[1:38:29] Speaker 19: our plans as House Democrats to make life better for
[1:38:33] Speaker 19: the American people.
[1:38:34] Speaker 6: Thank everyone, all right, folks, that was of course today's
[1:38:41] Speaker 6: news conference. You know on the housing bill, Zach great,
[1:38:47] Speaker 6: He's right. Trump did through a little fit Madden upset
[1:38:51] Speaker 6: and it's a no brainer, but also goes to show
[1:38:53] Speaker 6: you he doesn't give a damn about the American people
[1:38:56] Speaker 6: and what was happening. It's all about how can he
[1:38:59] Speaker 6: rape and pillagey country and how can he make his
[1:39:02] Speaker 6: millionaire billionaire friends happy.
[1:39:06] Speaker 13: Almost five billion dollar increase in this man's.
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: Net worth, and he does not give a damn that.
[1:39:14] Speaker 13: Millions of Americans cannot afford to purchase a home, cannot
[1:39:18] Speaker 13: afford to begin the process of building generational.
[1:39:22] Speaker 1: Wealth, gen Z.
[1:39:24] Speaker 13: Some millennials are shut out permanently from home ownership in
[1:39:29] Speaker 13: this country. And one of the very few things that
[1:39:32] Speaker 13: our leaders in Congress could do is come together in
[1:39:35] Speaker 13: this bipartisan bill and pass it, trying to rectify and
[1:39:39] Speaker 13: provide lower cost not low cost, but lower cost housing
[1:39:44] Speaker 13: to the American people. And this man refused to even
[1:39:47] Speaker 13: sign it, so he threw a little hissy fit. He
[1:39:49] Speaker 13: threw a tantrum. It was typical of what he does,
[1:39:53] Speaker 13: and I'm afraid that we're going to see even more
[1:39:55] Speaker 13: of that bullshit as we approach the end of the week.
[1:39:59] Speaker 13: I do want to say I appreciate you showing Leader
[1:40:02] Speaker 13: Jeffries remarks and really highlighting the work that he is
[1:40:06] Speaker 13: doing and how he's presenting himself and the legal efforts
[1:40:09] Speaker 13: that Democrats have to fight back and to dissent while
[1:40:13] Speaker 13: they are not within any seats of congressional.
[1:40:15] Speaker 1: Power at the moment.
[1:40:17] Speaker 13: I'm someone who's always I'm a big fan of Leader
[1:40:19] Speaker 13: of Jeffreys in the fact that this is the highest
[1:40:21] Speaker 13: ranking Democrat in this country and he is a black man.
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: So I'm just so thankful that we're able to.
[1:40:25] Speaker 12: Get him in front of the American people more.
[1:40:27] Speaker 6: Oh my congo.
[1:40:30] Speaker 11: You know, listening to his press conference, it was a
[1:40:33] Speaker 11: reminder that people who are Democrats liberal so called progressives,
[1:40:39] Speaker 11: and they're like, they need to really focus on what's important,
[1:40:44] Speaker 11: because I've heard so much talk in the last few days,
[1:40:46] Speaker 11: last few weeks about people are going to stay home
[1:40:49] Speaker 11: if this particular campaign issue is in the dress, if
[1:40:51] Speaker 11: this camping issue is in the dress, and in the
[1:40:54] Speaker 11: very beginning of this press conference, how can you Representative
[1:40:57] Speaker 11: Jeffies laid out the whole gauntlet of things that Democrats
[1:41:01] Speaker 11: are fighting for, and whether you're somebody who's considered a
[1:41:04] Speaker 11: liberal or DSA or whatever, most of those things that
[1:41:07] Speaker 11: he talked about, if not all of them, all all.
[1:41:10] Speaker 12: Of us want.
[1:41:11] Speaker 11: And so it's extremely important that people really focus on
[1:41:15] Speaker 11: what's important, which is getting control of the House, possibly
[1:41:18] Speaker 11: the Senate, and putting pressure on this administration and fighting
[1:41:22] Speaker 11: them back. And I believe that people have this fake nonsense,
[1:41:25] Speaker 11: Oh y'all just want to vote blue, no matter who.
[1:41:27] Speaker 11: It's not about any of that. It's about making sure
[1:41:30] Speaker 11: that we have a fighting chance to get the services
[1:41:32] Speaker 11: that are into us as American citizens or people who
[1:41:35] Speaker 11: just reside in this country period.
[1:41:37] Speaker 12: Bottom line.
[1:41:37] Speaker 11: Look at what he talked about as it relates to science,
[1:41:39] Speaker 11: to shooting and Maine, shooting in Houston. The list goes
[1:41:42] Speaker 11: on and on and on. So I feel like his
[1:41:44] Speaker 11: press conference was really should really be a reality check
[1:41:47] Speaker 11: for all of us to see what's really at stake.
[1:41:50] Speaker 11: He has we go into the midterms because this is
[1:41:52] Speaker 11: not one that people can afford to sit out the role.
[1:41:54] Speaker 11: And I feel like there's an emerging podcast class of
[1:41:58] Speaker 11: so called liberals and progressive who are thwarting some of
[1:42:01] Speaker 11: these really important efforts, and it's really problematic and dangerous.
[1:42:07] Speaker 14: I think what Jeffries laid out is something that every
[1:42:13] Speaker 14: ranking Democrat needs to be doing on a larger scale.
[1:42:17] Speaker 14: We don't just need to hear from one of you,
[1:42:19] Speaker 14: We need to hear from all of you, and we
[1:42:22] Speaker 14: need all of you that are laying out the plan.
[1:42:25] Speaker 7: And it's being lost because they're not doing that.
[1:42:29] Speaker 14: So when Jeffries come and have to lay out the
[1:42:32] Speaker 14: whole table, somebody is going to miss the message, and
[1:42:37] Speaker 14: it's because it's not consistent. We need consistent messages from
[1:42:42] Speaker 14: our leaders so that everyone can be on board. And
[1:42:46] Speaker 14: if we're not going to continue to do that, we're
[1:42:49] Speaker 14: going to continue to be behind the ball. And I
[1:42:53] Speaker 14: also want our leaders to stop making these compromises.
[1:42:57] Speaker 7: To the Republicans.
[1:42:58] Speaker 14: You don't got to eat nothing, then you don't have
[1:43:01] Speaker 14: to say these nice things all the dog on time,
[1:43:03] Speaker 14: especially when we are they're out here doing the unthinkable.
[1:43:06] Speaker 14: We have people dying at the hands of the Republican Party.
[1:43:10] Speaker 14: Why are you up here doing sweet nothings and sending condolencens.
[1:43:15] Speaker 7: To a man that is a pig and what's evil.
[1:43:18] Speaker 14: So I want them to get away from that because
[1:43:21] Speaker 14: the Republicans don't do that, and focus on what we
[1:43:24] Speaker 14: need to be focusing on and continue to be consistent
[1:43:27] Speaker 14: and pushing the message that we need to be hearing
[1:43:30] Speaker 14: and paying attention to so that we can go out
[1:43:32] Speaker 14: and execute.
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[1:47:13] Speaker 19: Hello, I'm Bishop TV Jakes and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered.
[1:47:23] Speaker 6: An LPD officer could face criminal charges for as secretly
[1:47:26] Speaker 6: recording as colleagu's racist comments. Last year, LAPD officer Daniel
[1:47:31] Speaker 6: Flores recorded almost ninety discriminatory conversations with his colleagues to
[1:47:36] Speaker 6: support an internal affairs complaint. The internal affairs case has
[1:47:40] Speaker 6: now been transferred to state prosecutors because California law prohibits
[1:47:44] Speaker 6: secretly recording conversations. Okay, Florid's attorney argues that he had
[1:47:50] Speaker 6: the authority to record the conversations because he is a
[1:47:54] Speaker 6: police officer. Wow, So the guy records racist converse stations
[1:48:01] Speaker 6: film and he's the one who's going to be in trouble.
[1:48:06] Speaker 7: And that's the tricky part about California.
[1:48:09] Speaker 14: And one thing that I've paid attention to this particular
[1:48:12] Speaker 14: law when individuals have come out recording individuals. The one
[1:48:19] Speaker 14: catch all that forces them the ability to do so
[1:48:23] Speaker 14: if there is a crime being committed, or you anticipate
[1:48:27] Speaker 14: something to be criminal in nature.
[1:48:30] Speaker 7: This could fall into that middle ground because when.
[1:48:35] Speaker 14: You have law enforcement officers who are out here and
[1:48:38] Speaker 14: who have taken an oath to serve and protect their community,
[1:48:43] Speaker 14: and they're out here intentionally making racial statements towards individuals
[1:48:50] Speaker 14: they come into contact with on a daily basis, that
[1:48:53] Speaker 14: is an inherent bias. It also puts the individuals that
[1:48:58] Speaker 14: they are coming in count with in danger and they
[1:49:02] Speaker 14: don't know that they're in danger because these individuals are
[1:49:06] Speaker 14: being equipped to put them in danger because of their
[1:49:11] Speaker 14: racial backgrounds that we don't know about. And that's one
[1:49:15] Speaker 14: of the failures in the public service industry. They don't
[1:49:20] Speaker 14: ask the required question, are you a damn racist? It's
[1:49:25] Speaker 14: very easy to ask these questions because if they say
[1:49:29] Speaker 14: that they are not, now you have recorded conversations that
[1:49:33] Speaker 14: can come back and hold them accountable.
[1:49:36] Speaker 7: But because they are.
[1:49:37] Speaker 14: Afraid to ask the ultimate question that needs to be
[1:49:39] Speaker 14: asked to every law enforcement officer, every lawyer, every judge,
[1:49:45] Speaker 14: anyone that is in these positions that where the law
[1:49:48] Speaker 14: requires them to either be present to present legal arguments
[1:49:54] Speaker 14: or take someone in custody.
[1:49:56] Speaker 7: It's insane. I don't know why they are playing with their.
[1:50:00] Speaker 14: Own statute that gives leeway as to what is the
[1:50:05] Speaker 14: recipe to get around that particular law when it's necessary.
[1:50:08] Speaker 13: And this is necessary, Zachary, this is going to be
[1:50:16] Speaker 13: an opportunity for the Democratic leaders of California if this
[1:50:22] Speaker 13: man is facing any kind of penalty for what he's done,
[1:50:25] Speaker 13: to step up and do the right thing. There have
[1:50:27] Speaker 13: been records record number of times when Governor Gavenusom didn't
[1:50:31] Speaker 13: do the right thing, but this is the time that
[1:50:32] Speaker 13: he can correct that, especially if he helps to have
[1:50:34] Speaker 13: any kind of opportunities beyond where he currently assists as
[1:50:37] Speaker 13: governor of California. This is also a prime example of
[1:50:41] Speaker 13: why we move while we need the George Floyd Justice
[1:50:46] Speaker 13: and Policing Act, because this is exactly what that Act
[1:50:50] Speaker 13: aims to help end.
[1:50:54] Speaker 1: The police who are not doing and operating it in
[1:51:00] Speaker 1: good faith to do what was right by the people.
[1:51:03] Speaker 6: I'm a congo.
[1:51:07] Speaker 11: Well, I have a bigger concern for the officer now
[1:51:09] Speaker 11: because it's a bigger target on his back. I mean,
[1:51:12] Speaker 11: whatever he was suing for whatever discrimination he was talking about.
[1:51:15] Speaker 11: Now he has all of this and people know that
[1:51:17] Speaker 11: they're recorded, so I'm even more concerned for what's going
[1:51:19] Speaker 11: to happen to him. And quite honestly, look, if you
[1:51:22] Speaker 11: can have these laws about not recording this or that,
[1:51:24] Speaker 11: but if people are saying things that you know are jeopardizing,
[1:51:28] Speaker 11: maybe they're saying racist things about how they view the
[1:51:30] Speaker 11: communities that they serve, and you actually do nothing about it,
[1:51:34] Speaker 11: that's a problem.
[1:51:35] Speaker 12: That's a real problem.
[1:51:36] Speaker 11: And quite honestly, this can come up later on in
[1:51:38] Speaker 11: another court case I'm assuming where people can say, well,
[1:51:41] Speaker 11: his officers was racist, it was put out there, and
[1:51:43] Speaker 11: nothing was done about it. And so this officer has
[1:51:45] Speaker 11: had a greater risk and there needs to be something
[1:51:47] Speaker 11: done more to support him because he clearly has evidence
[1:51:51] Speaker 11: that he's surrounded by people who don't have the best
[1:51:53] Speaker 11: interests of either him or his community at heart, and
[1:51:57] Speaker 11: that nothing can be done about it simply because of
[1:51:59] Speaker 11: this law. It's only going to end up bad for him.
[1:52:02] Speaker 11: I don't know it's going to happen to these officers,
[1:52:03] Speaker 11: but something needs to be on their files as well,
[1:52:06] Speaker 11: based on what they are recorded as saying.
[1:52:07] Speaker 12: I get it, but I don't get it at the
[1:52:10] Speaker 12: same time.
[1:52:11] Speaker 6: Understand, folks, Moros College is getting a major investment in
[1:52:14] Speaker 6: campus safety. The school will receive more than half a
[1:52:17] Speaker 6: million bucks in federal funding through a bipartisan effort led
[1:52:19] Speaker 6: by Georgia Senators John Osoft and revn Rafiel Warnock. The
[1:52:23] Speaker 6: funding is part of the Fiscal Year twenty twenty six Commerce, Justice,
[1:52:26] Speaker 6: Science and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, which is part of
[1:52:29] Speaker 6: the senators broader push to strengthen and invested in HBCUs systematically.
[1:52:33] Speaker 6: The money will pay for new motorized gates at campus interests,
[1:52:36] Speaker 6: security cameras at dorm interests, and proximity and lock systems
[1:52:39] Speaker 6: for classrooms and offices across the campus. Folks, so versut,
[1:52:46] Speaker 6: so let we think our panel. We appreciate all of you. Filma,
[1:52:49] Speaker 6: Zachary and am Congos. You'll appreciate it. Thanks a bunch.
[1:52:53] Speaker 6: You'll have a good one, folks. Going to close the
[1:52:54] Speaker 6: show out with an interview that I did with the
[1:52:57] Speaker 6: Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, Kazala Hashmie. She is the first
[1:53:03] Speaker 6: Muslim lieutenant governor. We sat down to talk about her
[1:53:06] Speaker 6: historic win and also her focus since taking office. This
[1:53:10] Speaker 6: conversation took place June twenty seventh at the Virginia Democrats
[1:53:13] Speaker 6: Commonwealth kayla us right now, the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, Gazala.
[1:53:19] Speaker 1: Hashbie just correcting.
[1:53:21] Speaker 10: That's correct, it right, That's all right.
[1:53:22] Speaker 19: Dan. So how you doing.
[1:53:24] Speaker 10: I'm doing well, Thank you so much.
[1:53:25] Speaker 6: So obviously a historic win for you. How has it
[1:53:31] Speaker 6: been thus far? What kind of learning curve has it been?
[1:53:34] Speaker 23: Well, it's been a very wonderful transition. You know, I
[1:53:37] Speaker 23: serve six years in the Virginia Senate and now I
[1:53:40] Speaker 23: preside over the Senate. What's been really important and helpful
[1:53:44] Speaker 23: is that I have those key relationships already in place,
[1:53:48] Speaker 23: not just with members of the General Assembly, but across
[1:53:51] Speaker 23: state agencies. My team got to work right away continuing
[1:53:55] Speaker 23: the effort to help all Virginians.
[1:53:57] Speaker 6: But you also have a very narrow mark in the Senate.
[1:54:00] Speaker 10: Correct, We do one seat margin.
[1:54:03] Speaker 23: You know, when I've got elected in twenty nineteen, I
[1:54:06] Speaker 23: was that one seat margin.
[1:54:08] Speaker 10: We brought in a trifecta.
[1:54:09] Speaker 23: At that point, we were able to secure so many
[1:54:12] Speaker 23: critical pieces of legislation. And then when we lost the
[1:54:16] Speaker 23: governorship to Governor Younkin, when we lost the majority in
[1:54:20] Speaker 23: the House of Delegates. Is that one seat that continued
[1:54:23] Speaker 23: to protect Virginia over these years so that we could
[1:54:26] Speaker 23: be a firewall against the disastrous policies that we're seeing
[1:54:31] Speaker 23: from the Republicans.
[1:54:32] Speaker 6: Now, the next round of Senate state Senate electure is.
[1:54:35] Speaker 10: What next year for the state government.
[1:54:38] Speaker 23: Yes, we will have all one hundred and forty seats
[1:54:41] Speaker 23: in twenty twenty seven, forty seats in the Senate, one
[1:54:44] Speaker 23: hundred seats.
[1:54:45] Speaker 10: Again in the House of Delegates.
[1:54:47] Speaker 23: We're going to fight hard to expand our Senate majority.
[1:54:50] Speaker 6: You know, one of the things that I was just
[1:54:51] Speaker 6: talking about is that what people really have to understand
[1:54:56] Speaker 6: what is going on here. When I look at this
[1:54:58] Speaker 6: extreme court, I don't go almost Supreme Court, this extreme court.
[1:55:02] Speaker 6: What we are seeing is this effort to solidify their
[1:55:06] Speaker 6: control not just for the next election cycle, but literally
[1:55:10] Speaker 6: for the next generation. And so, what do you say
[1:55:14] Speaker 6: to that person who's watching, who's listening, who says, you
[1:55:18] Speaker 6: know what, I'm not feeling this. My vote doesn't matter,
[1:55:22] Speaker 6: it doesn't count. I don't think I can actually create change.
[1:55:27] Speaker 23: Every person's vote absolutely matters. You know, what we've seen
[1:55:31] Speaker 23: in Virginia when we won that one seat in the Senate,
[1:55:34] Speaker 23: that ensured that we were able to have effective control
[1:55:39] Speaker 23: over all of the legislation that was going to be introduced,
[1:55:42] Speaker 23: that was going to be passed. We've been able to
[1:55:45] Speaker 23: pass significant historic legislation that kept Virginia protected no matter.
[1:55:50] Speaker 10: What Donald Trump was doing.
[1:55:52] Speaker 23: Every vote matters, and that's why it's so critical, especially now.
[1:55:56] Speaker 23: I think we all agree we're facing perilous times in
[1:55:59] Speaker 23: this country. Democracy truly is at state. It's for everybody
[1:56:04] Speaker 23: to act at this moment so that we can keep
[1:56:07] Speaker 23: this nation moving forward and not relinquish the kind of
[1:56:11] Speaker 23: prominence and effort that so many generations have made to
[1:56:15] Speaker 23: get us to.
[1:56:15] Speaker 10: Where we are.
[1:56:16] Speaker 6: What do you make of the constant attacks in this
[1:56:22] Speaker 6: country on immigrants.
[1:56:25] Speaker 23: As an immigrant myself, I understand what pain and vulnerability
[1:56:30] Speaker 23: so many families are feeling. And you know, this is
[1:56:34] Speaker 23: again a moment where we have to stand up for
[1:56:37] Speaker 23: immigrant communities, and Virginia continues to show that we are
[1:56:42] Speaker 23: not going backward and in fact, we are a very
[1:56:45] Speaker 23: inclusive commonwealth. We know that our wealth stands on the
[1:56:49] Speaker 23: basis of the richness and the diversity that we have,
[1:56:53] Speaker 23: not just in Virginia, but across the country, and Virginians
[1:56:57] Speaker 23: elected not just me, but other immigrants. We know that
[1:57:01] Speaker 23: we're fighting for the same reason we're here as Americans,
[1:57:05] Speaker 23: and we're going to fight to continue to uphold those
[1:57:08] Speaker 23: democratic values.
[1:57:09] Speaker 6: Well, one of the things that I am consistently trying
[1:57:11] Speaker 6: to convey the people, and it's amazing how many people
[1:57:14] Speaker 6: that really don't think about this here. You really don't
[1:57:17] Speaker 6: understand the number of immigrants in this country and the
[1:57:21] Speaker 6: number of people who are in jobs in corporate America,
[1:57:26] Speaker 6: in politics who maybe one generation removed. And when you
[1:57:31] Speaker 6: hear the phrase obviously black folks were enslaved, brought here
[1:57:35] Speaker 6: in chains. But it's without a doubt this is an
[1:57:38] Speaker 6: immigrant driven country. So this notion that you're not going
[1:57:43] Speaker 6: to have immigration and we're just gonna shut the borders off,
[1:57:48] Speaker 6: it's nonsensical because you cannot grow as a nation if
[1:57:53] Speaker 6: you are decreasing your population, your gross domestic product will
[1:57:58] Speaker 6: actually decrease.
[1:57:59] Speaker 10: I agree fully.
[1:58:01] Speaker 23: You know, America has always built its communities and resources
[1:58:05] Speaker 23: through the efforts of so many different immigrant communities. We
[1:58:11] Speaker 23: get the research talent, we get the scholarship, we get
[1:58:14] Speaker 23: the entrepreneurial efforts all from so many.
[1:58:18] Speaker 10: People around the world.
[1:58:20] Speaker 23: People around the world hold fast to the idea of America.
[1:58:24] Speaker 23: It is an idea that has stood the test of time.
[1:58:26] Speaker 23: It's an idea that appeals to so many individuals because
[1:58:31] Speaker 23: they know.
[1:58:32] Speaker 10: All the opportunity that this nation has to offer.
[1:58:35] Speaker 23: But also the fact that it's based on a democratic principle,
[1:58:39] Speaker 23: that every single person has the right, has a right
[1:58:43] Speaker 23: to life and liberty.
[1:58:44] Speaker 10: And the pursuit of happiness.
[1:58:46] Speaker 23: Those words mean something very powerful for people all across
[1:58:50] Speaker 23: the world. We need to restore America's position on a
[1:58:54] Speaker 23: global scale.
[1:58:55] Speaker 6: Well, that's why I always appreciate when I read or
[1:58:59] Speaker 6: listen to out the King speech on April third, nineteen
[1:59:01] Speaker 6: sixty eight, when you say, in America, be true to
[1:59:04] Speaker 6: what you put on paper, exactly because there are a
[1:59:06] Speaker 6: lot of people. There are a lot of people who
[1:59:09] Speaker 6: claim to be patriotic, a lot of people who claim
[1:59:12] Speaker 6: to be great Americans, who claim they love the Decoration
[1:59:16] Speaker 6: of Independence, who claim they believe in the Constitution, but
[1:59:19] Speaker 6: there actually speak something totally different.
[1:59:21] Speaker 10: You're absolutely right.
[1:59:22] Speaker 23: You know, I spent thirty years teaching American literature before
[1:59:26] Speaker 23: I decided to run for office and So for me,
[1:59:29] Speaker 23: those foundational texts that actually define our American idea mean.
[1:59:35] Speaker 10: So much more than just words on a paper.
[1:59:38] Speaker 23: And I taught students from around the world who sat
[1:59:40] Speaker 23: in my classroom.
[1:59:42] Speaker 10: They were here pursuing an.
[1:59:44] Speaker 23: American dream knowing that there is a power in this country,
[1:59:49] Speaker 23: and that power rest on its recognition of the individual
[1:59:53] Speaker 23: and of the critical role that democracy plays in upholding
[1:59:58] Speaker 23: every single voice.
[2:00:00] Speaker 6: So you say, you talk with thirty years, why did
[2:00:02] Speaker 6: you want to run?
[2:00:03] Speaker 1: Why?
[2:00:04] Speaker 23: So I decided to run in twenty nineteen because of
[2:00:07] Speaker 23: Donald Trump's first administration.
[2:00:10] Speaker 10: You know, Trump came into office.
[2:00:12] Speaker 23: Wanting to ban Muslims, wanting to attack immigrants on bigoted ways.
[2:00:18] Speaker 23: And as a Muslim American who had grown up in
[2:00:21] Speaker 23: this country, I knew that that was not the vision
[2:00:25] Speaker 23: of America that I was teaching my students, and I
[2:00:28] Speaker 23: had a special urgency to stand up and represent the
[2:00:33] Speaker 23: people in the communities that I work so closely with.
[2:00:38] Speaker 6: Last question for you, and that he is as we
[2:00:43] Speaker 6: look at the next five months, what do you say
[2:00:47] Speaker 6: to democratic strategies And now I say it largely white
[2:00:52] Speaker 6: male strategies who believe in putting all the money on
[2:00:56] Speaker 6: television not putting the money on the ground, who believe
[2:01:00] Speaker 6: that the path to victory are white suburban voters, and
[2:01:05] Speaker 6: who are not truly understanding Muslim voters, Black voters, Hispanic voters,
[2:01:11] Speaker 6: Asian American voters. What do you say to folks to
[2:01:16] Speaker 6: change their idea of how to win elections based upon
[2:01:20] Speaker 6: how y'all have been effected here in Virginia.
[2:01:22] Speaker 23: I think if we still play out the same tired game,
[2:01:25] Speaker 23: we're going to continue to lose the critical constituencies that
[2:01:29] Speaker 23: are looking to Democrats to stand up and truly represent
[2:01:33] Speaker 23: the full.
[2:01:33] Speaker 10: Spectrum of this nation.
[2:01:35] Speaker 23: You know, I campaigned for two years as I ran
[2:01:38] Speaker 23: for lieutenant governor. I crisscrossed the state, put on over
[2:01:42] Speaker 23: eighty thousand miles in my little prius.
[2:01:45] Speaker 10: I talk to people in every part.
[2:01:47] Speaker 23: Of this commonwealth. People want to be seen, they want
[2:01:50] Speaker 23: to be heard. They want to know that the people
[2:01:53] Speaker 23: who are in elected office are fighting for them, regardless
[2:01:56] Speaker 23: of political party, and that authentic city really registers a
[2:02:02] Speaker 23: Less voters see you, they're not going to be able
[2:02:04] Speaker 23: to trust you, They're not going to be able to
[2:02:06] Speaker 23: vote for you. I urge all candidates to go everywhere,
[2:02:11] Speaker 23: to talk to every community to build those solid coalitions.
[2:02:15] Speaker 23: That's the path to victory because once voters understand what
[2:02:19] Speaker 23: we're fighting for, they know that they can trust you
[2:02:22] Speaker 23: as a candidate.
[2:02:24] Speaker 6: All right, Legita goo it to asby. I appreciate it.
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