# George Floyd 6 Years Later. Redistricting War in The South. Talarico Senate Campaign

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 23 May 2026, 2 h 30 min.

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5.22.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: George Floyd 6 Years Later. Redistricting War in The South. Talarico Senate Campaign Monday will be six years since George Floyd's murder. We'll talk to Maryland Congressman Glen Ivey about his reintroducing the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act and to Houston community activists about how Floyd's hometown is remembering the man who started a global movement. Alabama's controversial congressional maps are the center stage in a Birmingham courtroom. We'll show you my one-on-ones with Texas Democratic Senate candidate James Talarico about his campaign, and with Congressmen Emanuel Cleaver and James Clyburn, who could lose their seats to newly redrawn maps in South Carolina and Missouri. And former California state attorney general and Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra will be here to discuss his gubernatorial campaign. Black Star Network Partner: Chapter For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[7:31] Speaker 8: Coming up, I'm roland Mark and Unfiltered streaming live on
[7:34] Speaker 8: the Black Start Network. Monday marks at sixth anniversary of
[7:36] Speaker 8: the murder of George Floyd. Congress and Glenn Ivey will
[7:39] Speaker 8: join us to say talk about him reintroducing the George
[7:43] Speaker 8: Oloy Policing Act. Also on today's show, Congresswoman Debbie Wahsamon
[7:47] Speaker 8: Schultz coming under fire from Black Democrats in Florida where
[7:50] Speaker 8: she files to run in a seat that they say
[7:54] Speaker 8: African Americans should be running in. Also, we will hear
[7:58] Speaker 8: from Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver about being having his seat in
[8:03] Speaker 8: Missouri being jerry mannered by Republicans. Congressman Jim Clyburn Jones
[8:08] Speaker 8: is talking about South Carolina trying to do the exact
[8:10] Speaker 8: same thing to him and his message for eighteen to
[8:14] Speaker 8: thirty nine year old voters. Will also talk to Zevi Versaro,
[8:18] Speaker 8: who's running for governor of California, plus Texas State Representative
[8:22] Speaker 8: James tel Rico running for the United States Senate in Texas.
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[9:33] Speaker 8: Oaks. Monday will be the sixth anniversary George Floyd was
[9:35] Speaker 8: murdered in Minneapolis Congress, and Glenn Ivey is reintroducing the
[9:39] Speaker 8: George Floyd just as the Policing Act. He joins us
[9:41] Speaker 8: right now. I'm glad to have you on the show,
[9:43] Speaker 8: Congressman Ivy. Bottom line is, listen, it passed the House
[9:48] Speaker 8: with Democrats that control the House. It died in the Senate.
[9:51] Speaker 8: You're reintroducing it, but Republicans control the House and the Senate.
[9:55] Speaker 7: Why well, we want to keep pushing it the It's
[10:00] Speaker 7: needed now more than ever. Certainly, the issues that led
[10:02] Speaker 7: to George Floyd's death are still here, and anybody who
[10:06] Speaker 7: was watching what was what Ice was doing in Minneapolis
[10:09] Speaker 7: saw that is still alive and doing horrible things there
[10:13] Speaker 7: as well. I've been doing a tour today with Keith Ellison,
[10:16] Speaker 7: the Attorney General of Minneapolis. I'm sorry Minnesota. They move
[10:20] Speaker 7: forward with one of the cases there in Minnesota already,
[10:23] Speaker 7: but there's still going to be challenges moving forward in
[10:25] Speaker 7: federal courts that states will have to bring state charges
[10:29] Speaker 7: and move forward there.
[10:31] Speaker 6: I think we need to address these concerns.
[10:33] Speaker 7: And the laws that as it was passed you know
[10:37] Speaker 7: in the previous two congresses. Those laws are needed now
[10:40] Speaker 7: more than ever.
[10:41] Speaker 8: Plus you also have concernives whose two want they're showing
[10:45] Speaker 8: to be parton have to be convicted on the federal level.
[10:48] Speaker 8: Your thoughts on that, Yeah, I.
[10:51] Speaker 7: Mean one of the good things about moving forward to
[10:53] Speaker 7: the state level, which I think is what's going to
[10:55] Speaker 7: have to happen in Minnesota, is that they if they
[10:59] Speaker 7: get convicted, even and if it's moved to federal court,
[11:01] Speaker 7: it'll still be under state law. So Trump won't be
[11:04] Speaker 7: able to give away one of those pardons like he
[11:05] Speaker 7: did with the January sixth insurrectionists. They'll have to serve
[11:09] Speaker 7: out the sentence, just like Chauvin's going to have to do.
[11:12] Speaker 12: So.
[11:12] Speaker 6: I think it's important to make sure we move forward.
[11:15] Speaker 7: Big point to make sure we remember, though, with respect
[11:18] Speaker 7: to what's going on in Minnesota, the Department of Justice
[11:20] Speaker 7: has been withholding the evidence in the shootings of a
[11:23] Speaker 7: good and pretty I led a letter with fifty seven
[11:27] Speaker 7: other members of Congress pushing for the Department of Justice
[11:30] Speaker 7: to release that evidence so they can share it and
[11:33] Speaker 7: get access to it. Keith Ellison and the DA in
[11:38] Speaker 7: one of the neighboring counties was able to move forward
[11:40] Speaker 7: in a different case, but not in.
[11:43] Speaker 6: These two so far.
[11:44] Speaker 7: So they need to turn the evidence over. It can
[11:46] Speaker 7: get out of the way if they're not going to
[11:47] Speaker 7: do something themselves.
[11:48] Speaker 8: This is also to further force the Republicans to be
[11:51] Speaker 8: on record in their opposition to this.
[11:55] Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's important to make sure that they
[11:57] Speaker 7: are continuing to be pressed on these issues, especially you
[12:01] Speaker 7: know in the version of it now that's come forward
[12:03] Speaker 7: with the ICE excessive force cases, and you know, the
[12:08] Speaker 7: border patrol has been terrible too, and so you know,
[12:11] Speaker 7: I think for a lot of Americans, yeah, they saw
[12:13] Speaker 7: you know, you know, Derek Chauvin get convicted in the like,
[12:16] Speaker 7: but you know, you had an unarmed white woman get
[12:19] Speaker 7: shot in the face in Minneapolis. And then to E said,
[12:21] Speaker 7: you saw the video with respect to the Preadie killing.
[12:25] Speaker 7: That's a white man who'd been disarmed, forced to the
[12:27] Speaker 7: ground and he was shot ten times. I think that
[12:30] Speaker 7: for a lot of white Americans that was an eye opener.
[12:32] Speaker 7: And so yeah, let's make sure the Republicans are on
[12:35] Speaker 7: record with respect to this and the position they're taking here,
[12:39] Speaker 7: but also across the board with Ice, which also needs
[12:41] Speaker 7: a total revamp.
[12:42] Speaker 6: By the way, we need to keep pushing.
[12:44] Speaker 2: On that too.
[12:45] Speaker 8: Are you hopeful that this will come up before the
[12:48] Speaker 8: November of the election?
[12:51] Speaker 7: You know the Speaker is going to try and block
[12:53] Speaker 7: it for sure. You know they've been trying to block
[12:55] Speaker 7: many things, and the War Powers Act they had to
[12:57] Speaker 7: take down because they were afraid to lose that yesterday.
[13:01] Speaker 7: So we'll keep pushing on that front. And there's this
[13:04] Speaker 7: something called a discharge petition where if you get a
[13:06] Speaker 7: majority of members of the House, you can bring it
[13:09] Speaker 7: to the floor even if the speaker's trying to block it.
[13:12] Speaker 7: That's how we got the Epstein files legislation that forced
[13:15] Speaker 7: the release there, or at least force the beginning of
[13:18] Speaker 7: the release of those documents, because they're still dragging their
[13:21] Speaker 7: feet there. But you know, we're going to use every opportunity,
[13:23] Speaker 7: every tool, and every platform that we can to move
[13:27] Speaker 7: this forward and keep fighting this fight because it's it
[13:30] Speaker 7: hasn't gone away. It's still a huge problem here in
[13:32] Speaker 7: the United States across the country, and we're going to
[13:35] Speaker 7: make sure we keep it on the front Burner.
[13:38] Speaker 8: Well, and obviously the issue that you have here is
[13:41] Speaker 8: that you and need some Republicans to join you on
[13:43] Speaker 8: the discharge petition.
[13:46] Speaker 16: Yeah.
[13:46] Speaker 7: Absolutely, And you know what's going to happen, I think is,
[13:50] Speaker 7: you know, Trump's been trying to hold the Republicans and
[13:53] Speaker 7: make them toe the line, but they're starting to read
[13:55] Speaker 7: the writing on the wall. His numbers are in the tank,
[13:58] Speaker 7: you know, in fifty to sixty points underwater for some
[14:01] Speaker 7: of these polls that I've seen, including Fox polls, and
[14:04] Speaker 7: so the Republicans that were running for reelection, and they're
[14:07] Speaker 7: all running for reelection in the House, are going to
[14:09] Speaker 7: have to make a decision about whether they're going to
[14:11] Speaker 7: step away from Trump and distance themselves from what he's
[14:14] Speaker 7: been doing, or if they're going to stay with him
[14:17] Speaker 7: and go down.
[14:18] Speaker 6: Either way, I think it's going to be beneficial.
[14:20] Speaker 7: We'd like to get them to move now, not just
[14:22] Speaker 7: on this issue, but on other affordability issues, you know,
[14:26] Speaker 7: like getting us out of the war, for example, start
[14:28] Speaker 7: bringing gas prices down, ending those tariffs so we grocery
[14:31] Speaker 7: prices will go down. We're going to force them to
[14:34] Speaker 7: work on those two. Healthcare coverage and the like. But
[14:37] Speaker 7: we'll keep pushing and we'll get it now or later,
[14:40] Speaker 7: but sooner or later, it's going to have to happen.
[14:43] Speaker 8: Absolutely all right then, Congressman Glenn Obvious really appreciate it.
[14:47] Speaker 8: Thanks a lot, Thanks for having me. My panel joining
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[15:03] Speaker 8: Look the realities Republicans. They don't care about this issue.
[15:05] Speaker 8: They don't care about like they've been lifting up Derek Chauvin.
[15:09] Speaker 8: But I do think it's important to press, press, press,
[15:13] Speaker 8: to keep them on the defense and to force them
[15:15] Speaker 8: to be on the record on these issues.
[15:18] Speaker 11: Yeah.
[15:18] Speaker 17: I think ultimately what we're looking at is making sure
[15:21] Speaker 17: that this is kept alive so that people just don't
[15:24] Speaker 17: forget about it, because it is easily forgotten. As you said,
[15:27] Speaker 17: the Republicans are not thinking about it. But they're going
[15:29] Speaker 17: to have to get over this qualified immunity they're going
[15:31] Speaker 17: to get after They're going to have to get over
[15:33] Speaker 17: this whole idea of what happens to civil rights cases,
[15:36] Speaker 17: and that's still going to be the biggest block in
[15:39] Speaker 17: all of this. Ultimately, this is a federal issue in
[15:42] Speaker 17: terms of this particular law, and what's important to really
[15:45] Speaker 17: think about is what's going on in the states. What's
[15:48] Speaker 17: going on when it comes to no knock warrants. There
[15:51] Speaker 17: has been some progress, a lot of that has been
[15:53] Speaker 17: rolled back, but still we are looking at what the
[15:56] Speaker 17: states have and the power that they have and what
[15:58] Speaker 17: they can carry out, So two different things that we're
[16:01] Speaker 17: looking at federal and state level. Slightly more progress on
[16:04] Speaker 17: the state level, but at least, as you said, we
[16:07] Speaker 17: are keeping this idea alive that things are not good
[16:11] Speaker 17: on the streets for African Americans.
[16:13] Speaker 18: Whether you're a man, whether you're a woman.
[16:15] Speaker 17: Coupled with that de rights kind of rolled back, all
[16:18] Speaker 17: of this is something that Trump has in his executive
[16:21] Speaker 17: orders taken away. So a lot to look at, but
[16:25] Speaker 17: certainly not a lot of progress that we're going to
[16:27] Speaker 17: see anytime soon.
[16:28] Speaker 8: And of course it's not like Trump gives a damn
[16:31] Speaker 8: he wants to offer community to any cop. And so
[16:36] Speaker 8: I don't see any movie whatsoever on this, Matt.
[16:43] Speaker 19: I see that there's a.
[16:44] Speaker 20: Glaring contradiction time you try to create a nearly two
[16:48] Speaker 20: billion dollars dollar weaponization fund for the people who are
[16:52] Speaker 20: I guess here are sickophants who have allegedly been you know,
[16:57] Speaker 20: targeted by a federal law enforcement I mean, that's the
[17:00] Speaker 20: thing that I think is so dishonest intellectually that you
[17:03] Speaker 20: see from the Republicans and from mister Trump in particular,
[17:07] Speaker 20: zoos where they want to be prolonged before they think
[17:10] Speaker 20: they're victims along. But we're demonstrated evidence that there's a
[17:15] Speaker 20: certain class of people who are victims of law enforcement,
[17:18] Speaker 20: and you do nothing to remedy that, and it's clear
[17:21] Speaker 20: that you don't care about those people. And what this shows,
[17:24] Speaker 20: especially because there are places like Colorado that has actually
[17:27] Speaker 20: legislated where it's gotten rid of qualified immunity. Obviously, as
[17:30] Speaker 20: candidates said, is a federal law, not a state law.
[17:33] Speaker 20: But the point is there is a precedent for it,
[17:36] Speaker 20: indssity for it, because we obviously have seen that there
[17:39] Speaker 20: have been a myriad and there's been enough you know,
[17:42] Speaker 20: situations where we need to really revisit this issue.
[17:45] Speaker 19: So I think you're right.
[17:46] Speaker 20: I don't think the Republicans are going to get But
[17:49] Speaker 20: I think it's intellectually dishonest when they're talking about the
[17:52] Speaker 20: same things fund that he's trying to create.
[17:54] Speaker 8: Michael, not in this form.
[18:01] Speaker 13: What I would do, And you know we've had this
[18:03] Speaker 13: conversation here before on the show rolling and with the
[18:07] Speaker 13: killing of Alex Preddy and.
[18:10] Speaker 11: Renaming Nicole Good this gives more fuel to the fire.
[18:14] Speaker 13: Personally, I would rename the bill the Law and Order,
[18:19] Speaker 13: Justice and Police in that until Republicans okay, so you
[18:21] Speaker 13: want law and order, Okay, here's the law and Order,
[18:24] Speaker 13: Justice and Police and that.
[18:25] Speaker 11: And also I would bring in the Fraternal Order Police.
[18:29] Speaker 13: Why because the Fraternal Order Police supported the George Floyd
[18:32] Speaker 13: Justice and Policing that and they said that it protected.
[18:36] Speaker 11: Police officers, but it also protected citizens. And I would
[18:40] Speaker 11: cite the.
[18:41] Speaker 13: Evidence from the doctor from the database called Fatal Force
[18:45] Speaker 13: from the Washington Post that shows each year approximately fifty
[18:50] Speaker 13: percent of the people shot and killed by police or
[18:52] Speaker 13: white people. Okay, So I say, okay, I would bring
[18:55] Speaker 13: in white crime mothers whose chure, whose loved ones was
[18:59] Speaker 13: shot and killed by police, whether they were armed or unarmed.
[19:02] Speaker 13: I would I would have a massive force behind this,
[19:05] Speaker 13: and even if you've got to break this bill up
[19:07] Speaker 13: into save two or three bills.
[19:09] Speaker 11: I would I would take that approach.
[19:11] Speaker 13: Yes, African Americans are disproportionately shot and killed unarmed, but
[19:16] Speaker 13: the data is in your favor, and it shows fifty
[19:19] Speaker 13: percent of the people shot and kill the white people.
[19:21] Speaker 11: So I would I would approach.
[19:22] Speaker 13: I would hit this from different sides and try to
[19:26] Speaker 13: force this through and get Republicans on record and say
[19:29] Speaker 13: you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna vote against the Fraternal
[19:31] Speaker 13: Order Police and the International Association Police Chiefs who both
[19:35] Speaker 13: signed on to this bill, and let the chips fall
[19:37] Speaker 13: where they may.
[19:39] Speaker 16: Well.
[19:39] Speaker 8: We will certainly see quick break. We come back. We'll
[19:41] Speaker 8: talk about Alabama UH being in court trying to try
[19:47] Speaker 8: to defend their congressional maps. We'll talk about that also,
[19:51] Speaker 8: Congoman w. Washington Shultz taking off Black Democrats after she
[19:56] Speaker 8: had announced today she is running in a congressional district
[20:00] Speaker 8: and not the one that she previously represented. After the
[20:04] Speaker 8: maps there were change. You're watching Roland Martin unfiltered on
[20:07] Speaker 8: the Black Study.
[20:07] Speaker 2: New I've been trying to erase black political power since Reconstruction.
[20:13] Speaker 2: Now the Supreme Court is helping them finish the job.
[20:16] Speaker 2: First came Shelby County versus Holder in twenty thirteen. The
[20:19] Speaker 2: ruling that gutted the Voting Rights Act then came Bernovich
[20:22] Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Another ruling, another piece torn away,
[20:26] Speaker 2: now comes Calais, the case civil rights leaders Warren could
[20:30] Speaker 2: cripple the last major federal protection against racial vote dilution,
[20:33] Speaker 2: and within days Tennessee eliminated its only majority black congressional
[20:38] Speaker 2: district Louisiana, South Carolina Alabama. The same strategy is spreading
[20:44] Speaker 2: across the South. The old Jim Crow used poll taxes
[20:48] Speaker 2: and literacy tests. The new Jim Crow uses gerrymanderd maps,
[20:52] Speaker 2: voter roll purges, polling place closures, and court rulings that
[20:57] Speaker 2: make black communities politically invisible. Teen sixty five was Freedom Summer.
[21:02] Speaker 2: This is Freedom Summer two point zero because they are
[21:04] Speaker 2: still trying to erase black political power and we.
[21:08] Speaker 16: Will not vow. Hey everybody, I'm TD Jackson. I want
[21:25] Speaker 16: to encourage you to watch Roland Martin unfiltered. It'll blow
[21:31] Speaker 16: your mind.
[21:57] Speaker 8: Alabama back in federal court at the Republican's moved to
[21:59] Speaker 8: revive a congressional map, the same map that judges can
[22:02] Speaker 8: already ruled unconstitutional for discriminating against black voters. A three
[22:07] Speaker 8: judge panel heard arguments today based on the long running
[22:10] Speaker 8: Allen versus Milligan case. The judges will decide whether the
[22:13] Speaker 8: state can move forward with special congressional primaries under those
[22:16] Speaker 8: disputed district lines comeass August. The hearing comes after the
[22:21] Speaker 8: Supreme Court's decision in the louisiannivers Kalay case, which completely
[22:24] Speaker 8: gutted the Voting Rights Act protections. Of course, in this
[22:30] Speaker 8: first of all, in second fourth, now civil rights groups
[22:33] Speaker 8: are speaking up about the Congression of map that Alabama
[22:35] Speaker 8: federal courts used to weaken black voting power. The planners
[22:38] Speaker 8: are asking judges to keep the current court approved map
[22:42] Speaker 8: and protect the votes already cast in this year's election.
[22:45] Speaker 8: That map is for two black members of Congress. That
[22:49] Speaker 8: carerent map again allows Alabama to elect Congluld and Terry
[22:52] Speaker 8: Sewell Congressman Shamari Figures. Of course, two seats for the
[22:55] Speaker 8: first time into history. Republicans want to go back to one,
[22:59] Speaker 8: but they really want a white about even congress momentary
[23:02] Speaker 8: schools district. I was mad, I was communicated with and
[23:06] Speaker 8: there's one chat with Evan Milligan, who is of course
[23:09] Speaker 8: the Miligan in that case. He talked about how the
[23:12] Speaker 8: lawyers just running circles around them. The problem is at
[23:16] Speaker 8: this Supreme Court doesn't give a damn. The Supreme Court is,
[23:20] Speaker 8: frankly I call it the extreme Court. They're doing the
[23:22] Speaker 8: work of Republicans and they're allowing them to move forward.
[23:25] Speaker 8: And it is as if they don't even care about facts,
[23:28] Speaker 8: don't care about president, don't care about the law. They're
[23:31] Speaker 8: choosing to create their own law. They are judicial activists.
[23:37] Speaker 20: And by judicial activism the time right, I mean, that's
[23:41] Speaker 20: what we hear. Don't be justicially active. And I think
[23:44] Speaker 20: plaintiffs are saying this is a little different situation. They're
[23:47] Speaker 20: saying that the legislatures grew map based on twenty twenty
[23:50] Speaker 20: three information and also was drawn cration.
[23:55] Speaker 19: But I think you hit the nail on the head.
[23:56] Speaker 19: That gets to the heart of my analysis.
[23:58] Speaker 20: I think the problem is once you have a case
[24:01] Speaker 20: like Kalai coming down from the highest court in the land,
[24:04] Speaker 20: the district court is going to feel it's bound to
[24:07] Speaker 20: follow that decision, and it's probably point time to buy
[24:11] Speaker 20: some Alabama's arguments that are you know, saying basically, the
[24:15] Speaker 20: current map should be the proposed map should be used.
[24:18] Speaker 20: I think that's what's going to happen functionally. Now, whether
[24:21] Speaker 20: this is really a different situation, you know, I don't
[24:24] Speaker 20: know enough of the evident every way that it differs.
[24:26] Speaker 20: But I'm in court all the time. I'm in front
[24:28] Speaker 20: of judges all the time, and frankly, one thing about enough.
[24:31] Speaker 20: A lot of times judges are reticent to do what
[24:34] Speaker 20: they think is stepping out on a limb. So if
[24:37] Speaker 20: they think the Supreme Court has spoken, and if the
[24:39] Speaker 20: judge is disinclined to go with the planiniffs, this allows
[24:42] Speaker 20: the judge to say, well, the Supreme Court resolved this issue, I.
[24:44] Speaker 19: No longer need to hear it.
[24:46] Speaker 20: And I see that happen every day in cases that
[24:48] Speaker 20: you know you'll never learn about, right they don't the
[24:50] Speaker 20: public airways. But in a case like this, I suspect
[24:53] Speaker 20: what will happen is the district court will do exactly that.
[24:55] Speaker 20: They'll bind two bob emas our arguments, or at least
[24:59] Speaker 20: listen to to them more substantially in the wake of
[25:02] Speaker 20: Klay and I think that's a problem, especially be able
[25:05] Speaker 20: to distinguish it like this as the planets are arguing, can.
[25:08] Speaker 8: This Well, I hope this district court were before rules
[25:12] Speaker 8: in favor of these plaintiffs. Until Supreme Court, y'all are wrong.
[25:17] Speaker 17: Well, you know, precedent is often overturned, and that's how
[25:21] Speaker 17: it happens. But it does happen when the culture shifts.
[25:23] Speaker 17: It does happen when people speak up. It does happen
[25:26] Speaker 17: when you come to court with the right legal arguments.
[25:28] Speaker 17: And it also happens when the judges use the discretion
[25:32] Speaker 17: in the way that they should, which is rightfully and
[25:34] Speaker 17: forcefully and correspondence with whatever the Constitution says. But as
[25:39] Speaker 17: you said, they don't care at this point, and as
[25:41] Speaker 17: Matt said, you know what.
[25:43] Speaker 18: They have an easy out.
[25:44] Speaker 17: We have an easy out because we just can defer
[25:46] Speaker 17: to collias and what happened with the United States Supreme
[25:50] Speaker 17: Court already. So it's kind of like this block that
[25:54] Speaker 17: we're in and until these attorneys can come up with
[25:59] Speaker 17: the right specific argument to talk about these maps in
[26:02] Speaker 17: a legally reasonable way.
[26:04] Speaker 18: That is sound. You know, that's the only way you're
[26:07] Speaker 18: going to do it.
[26:08] Speaker 17: But then again, you add the discretion of a judge,
[26:11] Speaker 17: you add the political disposition of a judge, and you
[26:14] Speaker 17: add the Supreme Court, which is, as we know, Republican leaning,
[26:19] Speaker 17: and you kind of are at a dead end.
[26:21] Speaker 18: But this is why you keep it going.
[26:23] Speaker 17: You keep it going until you have the right case
[26:26] Speaker 17: and the right time in order to have the change
[26:29] Speaker 17: in the justice system. In terms of what President says,
[26:33] Speaker 17: we know that the Supreme Court cases take The Supreme
[26:36] Speaker 17: Court takes cases according to what's going on in the
[26:38] Speaker 17: algorithm and the culture, what is important to them, and
[26:41] Speaker 17: this is what happens to be important to them at
[26:43] Speaker 17: the time, and that was deciding Calaius the way that
[26:46] Speaker 17: it was.
[26:47] Speaker 18: I think for my lifetime, I am going to see
[26:50] Speaker 18: these judges act in this way unless something extreme happens.
[26:53] Speaker 17: But we still keep it alive because, as you said,
[26:56] Speaker 17: judges can overturn President Michael.
[27:00] Speaker 11: Yeah, Roland, you know, hopefully they're successful here.
[27:05] Speaker 13: I'm not sure about that, but you know this just
[27:09] Speaker 13: you know, you just have to take a step back
[27:11] Speaker 13: and say, well, if the black vote doesn't matter, if
[27:16] Speaker 13: black political power is irrelevant, why are these people working
[27:20] Speaker 13: so hard to break up black districts.
[27:24] Speaker 11: Why they're working so hard to reduce the power of
[27:27] Speaker 11: the black vote.
[27:29] Speaker 13: You know, once again, they keep showing us that they
[27:31] Speaker 13: fear the black vote more than we value it.
[27:34] Speaker 11: And this times directly.
[27:36] Speaker 13: Into the fear of twenty forty three, when white people
[27:39] Speaker 13: will no longer be a majority population.
[27:41] Speaker 11: In this country and they want to control the courts.
[27:45] Speaker 11: They're restructuring the.
[27:49] Speaker 13: Voting districts as well to prepare for that and nullify
[27:54] Speaker 13: black political power as well as Latino political power.
[27:58] Speaker 8: Well, it is going to be an absolute battle, and
[28:01] Speaker 8: trust me, it is going to continue. Let's talk about
[28:04] Speaker 8: what's happening in Florida where man is getting real ugly there.
[28:10] Speaker 8: So congs from with Debbie Washingon Schultz, a longtime member
[28:13] Speaker 8: of Congress former chair of the Democratic National Committee Committee,
[28:16] Speaker 8: announced today that she is running for a congressional seat
[28:21] Speaker 8: in the twentieth congressional district. This was the video that
[28:25] Speaker 8: she dropped today.
[28:28] Speaker 9: I've thought for the people of Broward County my whole
[28:31] Speaker 9: adult life. You've always been able to count on me
[28:33] Speaker 9: to deliver results, for our community, to deliver results.
[28:37] Speaker 17: If you know Debbie Washerman Schelt, you know that Debbie
[28:40] Speaker 17: does not back down from a fight.
[28:42] Speaker 18: She is a person that is for all people.
[28:44] Speaker 20: Debbie's always been there to fight for us to stand
[28:47] Speaker 20: up against all forms of hate and make sure we
[28:49] Speaker 20: are best represented in Congress.
[28:52] Speaker 9: And I wage these battles when our values were on
[28:54] Speaker 9: the line, all while raising a family, beating cancer, and
[28:59] Speaker 9: answering President Obama's call to lead our party.
[29:02] Speaker 21: Debbie has for many years been a strong ally of
[29:05] Speaker 21: the LGBTQ community and the Hispanic community.
[29:08] Speaker 11: Debbie has walked the walk.
[29:10] Speaker 15: She's able to get things done, and in a country
[29:13] Speaker 15: where unity has become a real problem and that no
[29:17] Speaker 15: one does that, she is.
[29:19] Speaker 8: A rare person.
[29:21] Speaker 9: Today, I'm announcing my candidacy for re election in Congressional
[29:25] Speaker 9: District twenty because we cannot let Trump destroy Broward County's power.
[29:30] Speaker 21: Having somebody with that experience right now in this turbulent
[29:34] Speaker 21: times is so important.
[29:36] Speaker 9: Republicans couldn't care less about lowering your healthcare guess or
[29:40] Speaker 9: grocery girls.
[29:41] Speaker 8: But I'll use all my.
[29:43] Speaker 9: Seniority and clout in Washington to continue to make our
[29:47] Speaker 9: lives more affordable and nick Broward a safer, less expensive
[29:50] Speaker 9: place to live, raise a family, and retire some people.
[29:54] Speaker 9: To a lot of talking, I work hard to deliver results.
[30:00] Speaker 11: Do this together, doesn't matter what the issue is Wie.
[30:03] Speaker 8: Wasserman Schultz delivers.
[30:05] Speaker 18: Her authenticity, her connection to the community.
[30:08] Speaker 22: She stands up for our country.
[30:10] Speaker 8: She tells it like it is.
[30:12] Speaker 17: We need strength, we need experience in Debbie Wasserman Schultz
[30:16] Speaker 17: is that person.
[30:17] Speaker 16: She has humanity, she has experienced, she has honor, and
[30:22] Speaker 16: she has vision.
[30:23] Speaker 8: I'm telling you, folks, get her elected. We do not
[30:26] Speaker 8: want to lose Debbie Washerman and Charlie's Okay, So here's
[30:36] Speaker 8: the problem. Okay, her district was eliminated when the Republicans
[30:43] Speaker 8: jer Benner at the maps. Okay, so she's running in
[30:46] Speaker 8: a majority black district. Now, this has led to a
[30:53] Speaker 8: whole lot of pist off folks. In fact, the Flora
[30:56] Speaker 8: Legislated Black Caucus dropped this statement. Today, the Flora Legislated
[31:00] Speaker 8: Black Caucus is compelled to address Congresswomen Debbie Wassamon Shult's
[31:04] Speaker 8: recent announcement regarding her candidcy in Florida's Congressional District twenty,
[31:08] Speaker 8: a district with a rich history of Black representation. For generations,
[31:12] Speaker 8: Black Floridians have fought tirelessly for the right to vote
[31:15] Speaker 8: and for that vote to result in meaningful representation. This
[31:19] Speaker 8: fight has not been easy marked by sacrifice, organizing, and
[31:22] Speaker 8: the courage to overcome various forms of racial discrimination and exclusion. Today,
[31:28] Speaker 8: as we face a crucial juncture in our history, we
[31:31] Speaker 8: must reaffirm our commitment to protecting the political power of
[31:34] Speaker 8: Black communities. With only two remaining Black access congressional districts
[31:39] Speaker 8: in Florida, the significance of representation in District twenty cannot
[31:43] Speaker 8: be overstated. This district was established to remedy decades of
[31:47] Speaker 8: racial exclusion and to ensure that Black communities have the
[31:51] Speaker 8: opportunity to elect leaders who truly reflect their experiences and needs.
[31:56] Speaker 8: Congresswomen Wassamon's Shult's decision to pursue reelection in this historically
[32:01] Speaker 8: black district, despite explicit request from the Black community to
[32:06] Speaker 8: seek candidacy in a neighboring district is disheartening. Prior to
[32:11] Speaker 8: her announcement, Chair of the Florida Legislated Black caucas Represented
[32:14] Speaker 8: Felicia Robinson, sought a meeting to discuss these pressing concerns.
[32:19] Speaker 8: The absence of that dialogue demonstrates a lack of respect
[32:23] Speaker 8: and engagement with the very constituents who are most affected
[32:27] Speaker 8: by her candidacy. This is more than a political issue.
[32:30] Speaker 8: It is a pressing voting rights and civil rights issue.
[32:34] Speaker 8: The residents of District twenty deserve transparency, engagement, and a
[32:39] Speaker 8: genuine commitment to listening. Building trust with black leaders and
[32:43] Speaker 8: constituents should be paramount for anyone seeking to represent a
[32:48] Speaker 8: majority black district. Unfortunately, the actions taken by Congresswoman in
[32:53] Speaker 8: Wasman Schultz suggests a failure to prioritize these essential values,
[32:59] Speaker 8: perpetuating a narrative of performative allyship rather than meaningful connection.
[33:05] Speaker 8: As the Flora Legislative Black Caucus, we are dedicated to
[33:07] Speaker 8: preserving the hard fought gains made in securing voting rights
[33:11] Speaker 8: and representation for Black Floridians. We will continue our efforts
[33:15] Speaker 8: to educate communities about the importance of fair representation and
[33:19] Speaker 8: to advocate for the protection of black access districts. We
[33:22] Speaker 8: call on Allfulridians to stay informed, engaged, and committed to
[33:26] Speaker 8: the principles of fair representation and equal political opportunity. Preserving
[33:30] Speaker 8: Black political voices not only about honoring our history. It
[33:34] Speaker 8: is about ensuring a future where every voice is heard
[33:39] Speaker 8: in value. Michael, she right or wrong?
[33:43] Speaker 12: Oh?
[33:43] Speaker 11: I think she's is who right or wrong?
[33:46] Speaker 13: From the statement I think the statement is I said
[33:48] Speaker 13: she Jebbie Washington show, Okay, is no, I disagree with
[33:54] Speaker 13: Debbie Washington Shoults, and I think so let's look at
[33:58] Speaker 13: what happened in Tennessee, ro The district was the only
[34:03] Speaker 13: black majority district was redrawn represented by Representative can Con
[34:07] Speaker 13: and he decided not to run for reelection.
[34:10] Speaker 11: Okay, So I think she should do the same thing here.
[34:14] Speaker 13: This should be African Americans should be able to choose
[34:18] Speaker 13: a representative, and I would say an African American representative.
[34:22] Speaker 16: I think she.
[34:22] Speaker 11: Should do the same thing and not run.
[34:24] Speaker 13: And looking at the piece from the New York Times,
[34:27] Speaker 13: you know every everybody from black Democrats to Uncle Luke Luther.
[34:32] Speaker 11: Campbell are calling her out for this. Luther Campbell is
[34:35] Speaker 11: quoted in the article from the New York Times as well.
[34:37] Speaker 13: So this is this is another example of going back
[34:42] Speaker 13: to your show yesterday and Greg Carr talking about using
[34:46] Speaker 13: the Democratic Party as a delivery system. I totally agree
[34:49] Speaker 13: with that, agree with him on that we have to
[34:51] Speaker 13: use them as a tool and watch out for snakes
[34:54] Speaker 13: like Debbie Wasserman, Schultz, Kennis.
[35:02] Speaker 19: You know what I say, let her run.
[35:04] Speaker 18: You know why one she has the right to run.
[35:07] Speaker 19: Number two.
[35:08] Speaker 18: This is exactly what the Republicans are going to say.
[35:11] Speaker 11: That isn't fair.
[35:12] Speaker 17: Oh, you can't use race to say anything about anybody
[35:15] Speaker 17: who's running for a candidacy.
[35:17] Speaker 18: They would not be one hundred percent wrong.
[35:19] Speaker 17: Blacks have the right to run in other districts, right,
[35:21] Speaker 17: but they want to run in this twentieth because it
[35:24] Speaker 17: is advantageous for them and they're representing their people and
[35:27] Speaker 17: the history of the people. What we need to learn
[35:30] Speaker 17: from this, I think perhaps in this though we know
[35:32] Speaker 17: she's got more money, she's got recognition, what do we
[35:36] Speaker 17: do when someone runs?
[35:38] Speaker 18: This will be a good.
[35:39] Speaker 17: Test to figure this out because this is going to
[35:41] Speaker 17: happen again. You just have to live in the state,
[35:45] Speaker 17: right from what I understand Roland, correct me if I'm wrong,
[35:47] Speaker 17: But you can run in any district that you want
[35:50] Speaker 17: in terms of the prerequisite of living in the state,
[35:53] Speaker 17: that's all you need. She chose one that would be
[35:55] Speaker 17: advantageous to her. There are several other African Americans that
[35:59] Speaker 17: are right. Again, like I said, she's got more money.
[36:02] Speaker 17: But let's see where the chips fall and let us
[36:05] Speaker 17: use this as kind of a road map as to
[36:08] Speaker 17: what is to come in other districts, not just in Florida,
[36:11] Speaker 17: but across the country, because this is what we are
[36:13] Speaker 17: going to see pop up over and over again.
[36:16] Speaker 19: What do you do when this happens?
[36:19] Speaker 18: This actually is a good test case, let's see.
[36:22] Speaker 17: But to tell her flat out, I can make the
[36:24] Speaker 17: argument on side on either side. But since you ask
[36:27] Speaker 17: is this fair for her? Was it right that she
[36:29] Speaker 17: do this for her? I would say why not? She's
[36:33] Speaker 17: not breaking any laws. Let's see the strength that the
[36:36] Speaker 17: African American community has to see what we need to
[36:40] Speaker 17: do in order to change the tide.
[36:42] Speaker 18: We can't just talk about it.
[36:43] Speaker 17: We have to be about it in terms of how
[36:46] Speaker 17: this actually carries out and what we do is going
[36:48] Speaker 17: to make the difference.
[36:49] Speaker 18: And other people are going to be watching this district.
[36:52] Speaker 20: Matt, So I kind of agree with both Michael and Candice,
[36:58] Speaker 20: and I think there's some things in this statement that
[37:01] Speaker 20: indicate to me it's a larger issue than just where
[37:04] Speaker 20: she decided to run. So I don't understand why Congresswoman
[37:08] Speaker 20: Washerman Schultz would choose not to have this dialogue, because
[37:12] Speaker 20: it stands to reason to Candas's point, if she's entitled.
[37:15] Speaker 19: To run wherever she wants to run, this is where
[37:16] Speaker 19: she's chosen to run.
[37:18] Speaker 20: She should go sit with the people that she knows
[37:20] Speaker 20: are going to feel some kind of way about her
[37:22] Speaker 20: running in that district. Speak directly to them, and then
[37:25] Speaker 20: if she still decides to run, they can't say she
[37:27] Speaker 20: didn't meet with them. I think not meeting with them
[37:29] Speaker 20: looks like there's something shady going on. And I think
[37:32] Speaker 20: there was some language in there talking about performative allyship,
[37:35] Speaker 20: this is precisely the kind of thing that looks performative
[37:38] Speaker 20: when you invoke mister Obama's name or President Obama's name,
[37:41] Speaker 20: but instead you don't go sit down with the people
[37:43] Speaker 20: that you know will be materially affected by you running
[37:46] Speaker 20: in that district. However, by the same token, I don't
[37:48] Speaker 20: put it past any politico to do what they can
[37:51] Speaker 20: to ensure their political survival. And I think if you've
[37:54] Speaker 20: been the Democratic Party chairman, it shouldn't really be a
[37:58] Speaker 20: surprise to anyone that she's going to do whatever is
[38:00] Speaker 20: in her best, you know, perceived political interest. Whether she
[38:03] Speaker 20: should do that, whether that's the correct thing, I guess
[38:07] Speaker 20: in terms of relationships and in terms of her time
[38:10] Speaker 20: there in Florida, politics. You know, it's a different strategic question,
[38:13] Speaker 20: but it doesn't surprise me that she chose to do that.
[38:15] Speaker 20: I think the umbrage is partially because she ran, but
[38:18] Speaker 20: more so because she didn't go sit down at the
[38:20] Speaker 20: table and look.
[38:21] Speaker 19: Them in their eye and tell them she was gonna run.
[38:23] Speaker 19: And I think she's entitled to run.
[38:24] Speaker 20: But I also think, you know, if you're truly about
[38:27] Speaker 20: the mission of supporting black people who are running and
[38:30] Speaker 20: making sure that people have representation that looks.
[38:32] Speaker 19: Like them, then maybe you have a moral duty to
[38:35] Speaker 19: not run.
[38:35] Speaker 20: But again, she's a politico, and I don't expect a
[38:38] Speaker 20: politico to act really in anyone's best interest but their own.
[38:41] Speaker 19: And I think this shows that this is what she thinks.
[38:43] Speaker 8: That is so more than half of the district black
[38:47] Speaker 8: and Hispanic, although the Democratic, as a New York Times
[38:50] Speaker 8: story says, the Democratic electorate is district is mostly black
[38:53] Speaker 8: now he is also the wrinkle. Most of this district
[38:56] Speaker 8: had been represented by Congresswoman Sheila Serefless McCormick. She, of course,
[39:02] Speaker 8: resigned from office after she was about to be expelled
[39:06] Speaker 8: as a result of being indicted on a criminal charge
[39:09] Speaker 8: of in bestling five million dollars in federal disaster aid
[39:12] Speaker 8: another number. As I said, there are a number of
[39:14] Speaker 8: African Americans who are running for this particular seat. And
[39:17] Speaker 8: what you have heard from people say, listen, this is
[39:21] Speaker 8: about why why not go somewhere else, Why not go
[39:25] Speaker 8: to one of those competing districts. And this is really
[39:27] Speaker 8: the challenge that you're going to see in the moment.
[39:29] Speaker 8: We're going to hear from congress Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver, who
[39:33] Speaker 8: had his district jerry mandered. He made it clear he
[39:36] Speaker 8: is going to run in another seat in Memphis. When
[39:39] Speaker 8: they got rid of that district, Congressman Steve Cohen announced
[39:42] Speaker 8: he was going to retire as opposed to run for
[39:46] Speaker 8: one of the other districts. In South Carolina, they there
[39:49] Speaker 8: looking to get rid of Congressman Jim Clyburn's seat. He says,
[39:53] Speaker 8: no matter what they do, he is going to run.
[39:55] Speaker 8: And so this here is you know, an issue that
[40:00] Speaker 8: this is that they want to see. I remember in
[40:02] Speaker 8: Texas when the Republicans did their jerry mander back in
[40:06] Speaker 8: two thousand and three, they targeted white Democrats and they
[40:10] Speaker 8: wiped out the district of Congressman Martin Frost and also
[40:15] Speaker 8: in Houston, they created another black district. That district was
[40:19] Speaker 8: eventually that particular seat was originally won by Congressman Al Green,
[40:24] Speaker 8: and the whole goal was to force white incumbents to
[40:27] Speaker 8: run against a black candidate. So this is also part
[40:31] Speaker 8: of this whole game that the Republicans are looking to
[40:34] Speaker 8: do by pity white Democrats against black Democrats. That's what's
[40:38] Speaker 8: going on here. So it's going to be interesting to
[40:40] Speaker 8: see what happens in Florida moving forward when it comes
[40:44] Speaker 8: to this particular seat. Hold tight. One second, we're going
[40:48] Speaker 8: to go to a break. We come back more on
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[45:49] Speaker 8: has been focused in the last several days over the
[45:52] Speaker 8: end of the LACPS call for black athletes and others,
[45:57] Speaker 8: uh who'll go to attend certain schools and certain states
[46:01] Speaker 8: to not go to those schools and go to the others.
[46:02] Speaker 8: There are a lot of people have been commenting on
[46:04] Speaker 8: social media saying, oh my god, this is not right.
[46:07] Speaker 8: It's unfair to those young men. We should not be
[46:11] Speaker 8: asking young people to do these things. And I don't
[46:16] Speaker 8: really understand the argument. I've heard some people talk about, oh,
[46:21] Speaker 8: you know, we need to allow them to secure the bag,
[46:25] Speaker 8: and I get it. I get it when we're talking
[46:28] Speaker 8: about millions of dollars. But one of my problems with
[46:34] Speaker 8: this secure the bag generation is that what do you
[46:39] Speaker 8: stand for? If it's time to fight for something, what
[46:43] Speaker 8: do you fight for? So let me think about the
[46:48] Speaker 8: Black freedom movement for a second. When I think about
[46:51] Speaker 8: the Black Freedom movement, we got to remind people it
[46:55] Speaker 8: was a lot of eighteen nineteen year old people, many
[47:01] Speaker 8: of them who were expelled from colleges, including HBCUs for
[47:06] Speaker 8: joining the Black Freedom movement. What would the Black Freedom
[47:11] Speaker 8: Movement have looked like if folks said to young people, hey, no, no, no, no, no,
[47:18] Speaker 8: y'all need to stay in college. You need to get
[47:21] Speaker 8: your education. Don't want to mess up your future. No,
[47:26] Speaker 8: don't do that, do they? If you remind people in
[47:31] Speaker 8: Birmingham that all about the King's advisors were dead set
[47:37] Speaker 8: against James Bevel, who was organizing the children from being
[47:43] Speaker 8: involved in the movement. But what happened. The adults kept
[47:49] Speaker 8: getting arrested and then kept getting arrested, and he was
[47:54] Speaker 8: training the young folks. The young folks were clamoring to
[47:59] Speaker 8: be involved in movement. They were at one point climbing
[48:03] Speaker 8: out of the windows and trying to escape the doors
[48:07] Speaker 8: out of the schools to go get trained. Then finally
[48:11] Speaker 8: doctor King gave Bevil the nod and said release the children.
[48:16] Speaker 8: And it was when the children begin to march in protest,
[48:21] Speaker 8: and they sick dogs on them, and they sicked fire
[48:26] Speaker 8: hoses on them, and the world saw that. That's when
[48:31] Speaker 8: people said we got to do something. And then what happened.
[48:36] Speaker 8: Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Actor, those things actually happened.
[48:42] Speaker 8: I think about the brother a few years ago Mississippi
[48:46] Speaker 8: State who said, I ain't planning under that flag. I
[48:55] Speaker 8: ain't doing it in Mississippi, y'all. Ten days after that
[49:01] Speaker 8: brother made that statement, you know what happened. They changed
[49:06] Speaker 8: that flag. When I think about the folk who talk
[49:12] Speaker 8: about secure the bag, it reminds me of a story
[49:20] Speaker 8: that a woman told me. Her name was Carolyn Hunter.
[49:28] Speaker 8: So what happened was Carolyn Hunter, recent college graduate, had
[49:35] Speaker 8: got she was a chemistry major, had gotten her a
[49:38] Speaker 8: nice job at Polaroid. Well, one day there was a
[49:42] Speaker 8: brother named Ken Williams, and Ken Williams was walking through
[49:47] Speaker 8: the lobby and.
[49:48] Speaker 4: He saw this.
[49:52] Speaker 8: Past he saw this photo book that Polaroid was selling,
[49:58] Speaker 8: and in a sense that was like a past but
[50:01] Speaker 8: that past book is what the races in South Africa
[50:06] Speaker 8: were forcing black folk to have to care and they
[50:08] Speaker 8: could demand your papers on any notice. So Ken Williams
[50:14] Speaker 8: saw that and Ken Williams said, wait a minute, whoa,
[50:18] Speaker 8: we're selling that, And so Ken Williams began to talk
[50:23] Speaker 8: about that. Ken Williams began to raise a stink in Polaroid.
[50:31] Speaker 8: Polaroid didn't particularly like that. So Ken began to talk
[50:35] Speaker 8: to other black employees and they said, this is not right,
[50:38] Speaker 8: this is not fair, this is nineteen to seventy. So
[50:41] Speaker 8: what happened was that's Carolyn Hunter, recent college graduate. She said,
[50:49] Speaker 8: you know what, Ken's right. So they began to protest
[50:53] Speaker 8: the issue. They end up losing their job. Do you
[51:03] Speaker 8: know what that created? Go to my iPad. That created
[51:06] Speaker 8: what is known as the Polaroid Revolutionary Workers movement. Do
[51:14] Speaker 8: y'all know that? And we know this because Ron Dellams
[51:18] Speaker 8: when Mandela died, was on my TV one show and
[51:22] Speaker 8: the CBC wasn't aware of this divestment of this issue.
[51:28] Speaker 8: It was the Polaroid Revolutionary Workers Movement y'all that actually
[51:33] Speaker 8: created the divestment campaign against South Africa I was in
[51:42] Speaker 8: New York City, this is two thousand and nine, and
[51:48] Speaker 8: I was up late watching PBS and I saw this
[51:52] Speaker 8: story and I'm looking at the picture and I went, damn,
[51:57] Speaker 8: the woman look familiar. So I this other sister, And
[52:02] Speaker 8: I said, is that jo Mama? Unbeknownst to me, when
[52:06] Speaker 8: I went to Marsina's, Vinyard actually stayed at the home
[52:09] Speaker 8: of Carolyn Hunter. Carolyn Hunter later married Ken Williams. It
[52:13] Speaker 8: was a golf tournament of Marthas Vinyard Charles Ogletry had
[52:17] Speaker 8: become playing that was named after Ken Williams. Why am
[52:21] Speaker 8: I saying this because it was young. Carolyn Hunter was
[52:25] Speaker 8: a young woman who put her career on the line
[52:29] Speaker 8: and it wasn't about securing the bag. She cared about
[52:34] Speaker 8: something bigger. What I think people are losing in this
[52:39] Speaker 8: whole argument is that many of the players that NAACP
[52:44] Speaker 8: is talking about are also being recruited by USC, UCLA,
[52:49] Speaker 8: Big ten schools, other schools across the country. So they're
[52:53] Speaker 8: not saying don't play. They're saying don't play for these
[53:00] Speaker 8: particular schools. And these are the schools the NAACP and
[53:06] Speaker 8: their out of bounds campaign they are targeting public universities
[53:11] Speaker 8: in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.
[53:19] Speaker 8: That's the schools they're targeting, those state schools. So it's
[53:24] Speaker 8: very interesting to me to see people who are so mad,
[53:33] Speaker 8: so upset, so angry calling the naacp out, y'all wrong,
[53:39] Speaker 8: y'all wrong for doing this, and those young people, I mean,
[53:46] Speaker 8: look at all the money they could make. So is
[53:51] Speaker 8: that what we've reduced this to. We've reduced the fight
[53:59] Speaker 8: for civil rights in voting rights and equal protection to
[54:05] Speaker 8: what a handful of black people can earn. That tells
[54:11] Speaker 8: me all I need to know about where this generation
[54:15] Speaker 8: stands when it comes to fighting on behalf of black people.
[54:22] Speaker 8: Let my panel get the weigh in. I'll start with you, Candice.
[54:28] Speaker 17: Yeah, you know, being economically sound and secure in the
[54:33] Speaker 17: bag really is just an illusion. I mean, you're still
[54:37] Speaker 17: going to get stopped by the police. The Supreme Court
[54:40] Speaker 17: is still going to gut the Voting Rights Act. It
[54:43] Speaker 17: just means that when you're a plaintive in your case
[54:45] Speaker 17: to try to change the law, you're going to be able.
[54:47] Speaker 18: To wear a better suit. You will look better when
[54:50] Speaker 18: we think of Althea.
[54:51] Speaker 17: Gibson, Muhammad Adli, Bill Russell, I mean so many people
[54:56] Speaker 17: they made and stood their ground to make a difference
[54:59] Speaker 17: that they knew what happened because of those who came
[55:02] Speaker 17: before them. It doesn't matter the age. And like you said,
[55:06] Speaker 17: we're not saying don't go to school, but choose wisely
[55:09] Speaker 17: and know that you have the power.
[55:11] Speaker 11: In order to do what you can do.
[55:13] Speaker 17: And know that in that twenty billion dollar industry when
[55:16] Speaker 17: you talk about you know, college sports, it goes a
[55:20] Speaker 17: long way.
[55:20] Speaker 18: When you talk with your money. That's how people listen.
[55:23] Speaker 11: That is that is the great great, one of the.
[55:26] Speaker 17: Great equalizers in terms of being recognized and how people
[55:30] Speaker 17: see you in this world. And if they're going to
[55:32] Speaker 17: secure the back secured at the right school, that's all
[55:34] Speaker 17: folks are saying.
[55:35] Speaker 18: Just secure it at the right school. You have the right,
[55:38] Speaker 18: You have your own power.
[55:40] Speaker 17: And volition to make a better decision than the one
[55:43] Speaker 17: that you were going to make at the school that
[55:45] Speaker 17: you know doesn't support the cause. And people at that
[55:48] Speaker 17: age also need to understand and recognize their power. I
[55:52] Speaker 17: think that we you know, we treat young people like
[55:54] Speaker 17: they're young, but like you said, the people that came
[55:56] Speaker 17: before us, they were very young.
[55:59] Speaker 19: This documentary.
[56:02] Speaker 17: The Mighty, the Mighty Movement, anyway, folks can google it,
[56:05] Speaker 17: but it talks about the Children's March. It talks about
[56:08] Speaker 17: the children involved in the Civil Rights era. Powerful, powerful, powerful.
[56:14] Speaker 17: Age is nothing but a number. And in terms of
[56:16] Speaker 17: the numbers, in terms of securing those bags too, nothing
[56:19] Speaker 17: but a number.
[56:20] Speaker 3: Two.
[56:20] Speaker 18: The Supreme Court is going to work the way that
[56:22] Speaker 18: they want unless people stand up.
[56:24] Speaker 13: Michael Roland, you know, I'm glad you brought this up
[56:29] Speaker 13: because I did a video a couple of nights ago
[56:32] Speaker 13: about this, and I think the same problem with this,
[56:35] Speaker 13: in people commenting on social media making these insane comments,
[56:39] Speaker 13: is the same problem that we had.
[56:40] Speaker 11: With the target boycott. People don't read shit.
[56:43] Speaker 13: I don't think people actually read the press release from
[56:46] Speaker 13: the NAACP, because when you read the press release, it
[56:50] Speaker 13: actually encourages these athletes to consider going to HBCUs and
[56:56] Speaker 13: plan for HBCUs. It doesn't tell them don't play and
[57:00] Speaker 13: all okay. And it also calls on fans, alumni, donors, consumers,
[57:06] Speaker 13: et cetera to redirect dollars.
[57:08] Speaker 11: To HBCUs, purchase tickets for HBCU games, support HBCUs, et cetera.
[57:14] Speaker 13: So this is a form of economic withdrawal, Okay, and
[57:19] Speaker 13: a lot and too many of our people have gotten
[57:21] Speaker 13: too comfortable. Let's just tell the truth. Too many of
[57:24] Speaker 13: our people have gotten too comfortable. Don't really understand sacrifice.
[57:28] Speaker 13: Haven't studied the civil rights movement? Okay, because when we
[57:31] Speaker 13: look at economic boycotts, not just the Montgomery bus boycott,
[57:34] Speaker 13: but we look at boycotts in Birmingham, Alabama, we look
[57:38] Speaker 13: at go million versus Lightfoot, and the boycott's at Tuskegee, Alabama.
[57:42] Speaker 13: We realized that we had to redirect our dollars somewhere
[57:46] Speaker 13: else also, and there was some sacrifice involved. So if
[57:50] Speaker 13: people actually read the entire NAACP press release, I think
[57:56] Speaker 13: they'll get a totally different impression than what Circuit Lady
[58:00] Speaker 13: on social media. But once again, this is why you
[58:02] Speaker 13: have to read. But this is something very powerful, This
[58:05] Speaker 13: is something we should all participate in, and we should
[58:09] Speaker 13: have done something like this to get behind Colin Kaeperdick.
[58:12] Speaker 13: We should have stopped watching NFL games, stop purchasing the jerseys,
[58:15] Speaker 13: stop purchasing the tickets, Okay, and lever st our economics
[58:19] Speaker 13: to enforce our political agenda.
[58:21] Speaker 11: This is exactly what the NAACP is talking about here.
[58:24] Speaker 13: How you can have negros when we are being politically lynched,
[58:28] Speaker 13: How you can have negroes want to sacrifice short term gang.
[58:32] Speaker 11: For long term priadon.
[58:33] Speaker 22: I don't understand something like that.
[58:35] Speaker 8: The thing for me, Mattter, is this here. It would
[58:43] Speaker 8: be great if let's say the ESPN top three hundred
[58:49] Speaker 8: said YOI out, but let's say five or ten chose
[58:57] Speaker 8: to do so. The whole point of this is to
[59:06] Speaker 8: create a reaction among these lawmakers. I go back to
[59:14] Speaker 8: Mississippi State. I go back to what happened when that
[59:23] Speaker 8: brother said, you know what, I'm uncomfortable playing under this flag.
[59:40] Speaker 8: And when he tweeted that this was one brother, this
[59:49] Speaker 8: was one black man, This was one football player. When
[59:59] Speaker 8: that brother said it, you know what, Yeah, I ain't
[1:00:06] Speaker 8: comfortable doing this. You know what happened, Matt, several other
[1:00:12] Speaker 8: players say you know what, bruh, I'm un comfortable too.
[1:00:24] Speaker 8: You know what then happened those white coaches. The white
[1:00:30] Speaker 8: coaches were like, uh, I better get behind my player.
[1:00:38] Speaker 8: Then the white coaches went to the white conservative lawmakers
[1:00:41] Speaker 8: and they said say, man, I need y'all to know
[1:00:49] Speaker 8: this is gonna be a problem because the white coaches
[1:00:54] Speaker 8: saw what was down the line. The white coaches saw
[1:01:01] Speaker 8: that if one black ballplayer caused five or six others
[1:01:07] Speaker 8: to say no, we ain't playing undeath that flag, they
[1:01:10] Speaker 8: were not gonna be able to recruit black ball players.
[1:01:13] Speaker 8: Matt in ten days, I need people watching and listening
[1:01:19] Speaker 8: to understand. The NAACP for decades had been trying to
[1:01:26] Speaker 8: get that Confederate emblem off of the Mississippi state flag.
[1:01:32] Speaker 8: The NAACP launched boycotts in Mississippi and South Carolina, and
[1:01:40] Speaker 8: they kept the NCUBA from holding various championships in those states,
[1:01:47] Speaker 8: meaning that if the South Carolina or the Mississippi state
[1:01:51] Speaker 8: of the old miss softball team, volleyball team, swim team,
[1:01:57] Speaker 8: golf team, or whatever, they were ineligible from hosting regional events.
[1:02:06] Speaker 8: Because the NCAA said we're gonna honor the naacpeople atcot.
[1:02:11] Speaker 8: Then white law makers are like, yeah, we won't give
[1:02:13] Speaker 8: a damn. But when that black running back said yeah,
[1:02:19] Speaker 8: I ain't down with this, them white boys changed that flag.
[1:02:24] Speaker 8: In ten days, Tate Reive was talking trash. We ain't
[1:02:29] Speaker 8: changing nothing ten days later signing that law. So people
[1:02:37] Speaker 8: need to understand that the actions of a few black
[1:02:43] Speaker 8: ball players could actually lead to massive change. I don't
[1:02:50] Speaker 8: understand why people act like that didn't happen, Matt.
[1:02:57] Speaker 20: This is a more nuanced conversation than you know, short
[1:03:01] Speaker 20: time allows. But I think there's several things that play
[1:03:03] Speaker 20: into this. I don't think you're wrong. I think that's
[1:03:06] Speaker 20: an extraordinary example of how that can cascade and you
[1:03:09] Speaker 20: can have people following suit and you can inspire change.
[1:03:13] Speaker 20: But I think several things. First, I think collegiate athletics
[1:03:16] Speaker 20: at this level is per se exploitative. I've always thought
[1:03:20] Speaker 20: it's problematic that people have any objection to nil money
[1:03:24] Speaker 20: because the couch it as though there's some kind of,
[1:03:26] Speaker 20: you know, loyalty that's owed to these teams. But the
[1:03:29] Speaker 20: University of Texas and Texas AT and them university make
[1:03:32] Speaker 20: way more money than any.
[1:03:33] Speaker 19: Of these individuals ever do. And it's just per se exploitative.
[1:03:37] Speaker 19: I tell you that.
[1:03:37] Speaker 20: To say this, I think it shouldn't surprise anyone that
[1:03:40] Speaker 20: within that system people are acting in their own self interest.
[1:03:43] Speaker 20: And I think in order for this to work, there
[1:03:45] Speaker 20: are a couple of things that haven't been mentioned that
[1:03:48] Speaker 20: have to be considered. The first thing is, I think
[1:03:51] Speaker 20: it would require players on MOSS to not go to
[1:03:54] Speaker 20: these schools because to your point, I mean, you have
[1:03:56] Speaker 20: an upper echelon of students or at student athletes who
[1:04:00] Speaker 20: are going to realistically go to the league and whatever,
[1:04:03] Speaker 20: but you have a bunch of others who are not
[1:04:04] Speaker 20: going to. Unless you have people deep in the depth
[1:04:07] Speaker 20: charts not playing at some of those schools, I think
[1:04:10] Speaker 20: those schools are going to still field teams and it's
[1:04:13] Speaker 20: not going to have the effect unless you have a
[1:04:16] Speaker 20: real mass exodus to some other schools. But one of
[1:04:19] Speaker 20: the things I think has to be addressed is you
[1:04:20] Speaker 20: have to really talk about them going to independent HBCUs.
[1:04:24] Speaker 20: I think they have to go to Howard or Hampton
[1:04:26] Speaker 20: or somewhere that's not PV or Texas Southern, because if
[1:04:29] Speaker 20: you think about it, even sending them to one of
[1:04:31] Speaker 20: those schools still funnels money into the University of Texas
[1:04:35] Speaker 20: system or the Texas A and M system, and then
[1:04:37] Speaker 20: you just move it from one university to another university,
[1:04:40] Speaker 20: but it's still benefiting the same entity that you take
[1:04:42] Speaker 20: umbrage with. So I don't have any issues what the
[1:04:46] Speaker 20: NAACP is saying. I think it's the right stance. I
[1:04:50] Speaker 20: think there's some necessary nuance to make it even more effective.
[1:04:53] Speaker 20: And on top of that, the final thing that I
[1:04:55] Speaker 20: think mediates this that is a difficult part of this
[1:04:57] Speaker 20: conversation is for some of those students, the period of
[1:05:01] Speaker 20: time where they can be a professional athlete is small.
[1:05:04] Speaker 20: So I understand, at least conceptually, how people could have
[1:05:08] Speaker 20: difficulty with saying, look, I don't want to miss my
[1:05:10] Speaker 20: opportunity to go play in the league. I mean, that's
[1:05:12] Speaker 20: a dream for a lot of these kids. It's not
[1:05:15] Speaker 20: realistic for most of them, but for a lot of
[1:05:17] Speaker 20: them it is a dream. So I get how families
[1:05:19] Speaker 20: would grapple with that part of it. But I think
[1:05:21] Speaker 20: it comes down to the moral question what is it worth?
[1:05:24] Speaker 20: What is your individual ascension worth as in respect to
[1:05:27] Speaker 20: your entire You know, people right, and I think you're right.
[1:05:32] Speaker 20: I think eighteen nineteen year olds should be imbued with
[1:05:35] Speaker 20: the sense of responsibility to their people to choose what
[1:05:39] Speaker 20: is best for the people, even more so than themselves.
[1:05:42] Speaker 20: But I also understand that's a very difficult conversation, especially
[1:05:45] Speaker 20: if you have a realistic prospect of playing professional sports.
[1:05:48] Speaker 20: And I think that's a tough, tougher conversation than most
[1:05:52] Speaker 20: of us will ever have to have because we are
[1:05:53] Speaker 20: in that position. So I think those things make this
[1:05:56] Speaker 20: a more difficult conversation. But I think if they're going
[1:05:58] Speaker 20: to divest in the there's a mass exodus to HBCUs,
[1:06:02] Speaker 20: it has to be the independent HBCUs, so you're not
[1:06:04] Speaker 20: still enriching the systems that you're railing against.
[1:06:08] Speaker 8: Yeah, but they're very clear in terms of what this is,
[1:06:13] Speaker 8: and they also are not just calling on the athletes
[1:06:16] Speaker 8: as well. What they lay out here is right here
[1:06:23] Speaker 8: says get involved, athletes and families, take the pledge. Fans
[1:06:27] Speaker 8: and alumni advocate with your dollars support HBCUs. Amplify your advocacy.
[1:06:33] Speaker 8: They say that if you withhold your money from these
[1:06:38] Speaker 8: institutions when it comes to games and things along those lines.
[1:06:44] Speaker 8: You know all of this here. I just think people
[1:06:46] Speaker 8: need to just understand and learn. First of all, as
[1:06:49] Speaker 8: Michael said, actually read so you actually understand what the
[1:06:54] Speaker 8: whole agenda is here. But I do think too many
[1:06:59] Speaker 8: people today are so selfish that everything is about again
[1:07:05] Speaker 8: securing the bag, and that for me when I look
[1:07:08] Speaker 8: at these responses, and here's the other thing. That's that's
[1:07:12] Speaker 8: that's that's if let's just say top twenty players first
[1:07:16] Speaker 8: of all, one two percent going to the next level.
[1:07:20] Speaker 8: I mean, we're not talking about a ton of people.
[1:07:24] Speaker 8: You got a pretty good idea who's going to the
[1:07:25] Speaker 8: next level. And the reality is, if you take your
[1:07:30] Speaker 8: talents from Texas A and m Texas Alabama and you
[1:07:35] Speaker 8: choose to go to Ohio State, Michigan and USC, it
[1:07:39] Speaker 8: really ain't no different than when those same Jim Crow
[1:07:43] Speaker 8: screw school didn't recruit black ball players. Where do they go? Syracuse, Michigan,
[1:07:50] Speaker 8: Ohio State, USC? When did Alabama start recruiting black pap ballplayers?
[1:07:55] Speaker 8: When Bam Countyham and USC came down and whooped, they asked,
[1:08:00] Speaker 8: and that's when them biggest went, we're gonna have to
[1:08:03] Speaker 8: go get us some of them. And they did say
[1:08:06] Speaker 8: some of them. They used in word. It was them
[1:08:09] Speaker 8: getting they asked, is whooped by black ball players? That
[1:08:14] Speaker 8: caused those racists asked Jim Crow schools to say, yeah,
[1:08:18] Speaker 8: we we we're gonna We're gonna lose. We're gonna keep
[1:08:22] Speaker 8: losing if we ain't got some of them on our team.
[1:08:26] Speaker 8: So that's what they're saying. And what I'm arguing is
[1:08:31] Speaker 8: that if three four or five, I'm telling you, that's
[1:08:35] Speaker 8: all that's gonna take. If three four or five or
[1:08:37] Speaker 8: top athletes say I ain't going, let me call the States.
[1:08:44] Speaker 8: If they said I'm not going to any of these
[1:08:49] Speaker 8: schools in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee,
[1:08:56] Speaker 8: and Texas, I can guarantee you those white Republican legislators
[1:09:05] Speaker 8: are gonna be shaking in the boots, because, y'all, that's
[1:09:09] Speaker 8: a big difference between having a whole football team of
[1:09:13] Speaker 8: white boys and you going seven and six and having
[1:09:19] Speaker 8: a lot of brothers on your team and you going
[1:09:22] Speaker 8: ten and one or nine and two. That's a lot
[1:09:26] Speaker 8: of millions, a lot of zeros you lose. Trust me,
[1:09:32] Speaker 8: that would get their attention. Let me let me thank Matt,
[1:09:40] Speaker 8: Candice and Michael Bill on today's show. I appreciate all
[1:09:43] Speaker 8: three of y'all here, and y'all congratulations Matt. Now think
[1:09:47] Speaker 8: he's grown because apparently Matt turned forty, so he can
[1:09:54] Speaker 8: stop all that bullshit about how young he is or
[1:09:57] Speaker 8: I'm the youngest. Oh, I'm young like the preacher. The
[1:10:01] Speaker 8: Preacher once he turned forty, he can't preach youth revivals anymore.
[1:10:06] Speaker 8: That's gone. That's gone. So Matt, be happy you turn forty.
[1:10:13] Speaker 8: Gonna take your prostate exam and gonna take the colon
[1:10:16] Speaker 8: exam because you now in that category. Folks. The show
[1:10:20] Speaker 8: is not over. The show is not over at all.
[1:10:24] Speaker 8: I'm done with the pan. I just want to get
[1:10:25] Speaker 8: one to tell him thanks a lot. But we got
[1:10:29] Speaker 8: a lot more left on the show. We've got Zaia
[1:10:33] Speaker 8: Big Sarah is gonna be on the show runner for
[1:10:34] Speaker 8: Government of California. Coming up next, we're gonna hear from
[1:10:37] Speaker 8: Congressman Emmanual Cleaver. We also have my interview with Congress
[1:10:41] Speaker 8: and Jim Clyburn State Rosentim James tell Rico. I may
[1:10:44] Speaker 8: not get to all of those today. Also, I got
[1:10:46] Speaker 8: some breaking news to share with you as well. So
[1:10:50] Speaker 8: let's do this here right now. Let's hear I talk
[1:10:53] Speaker 8: to Congress and Emmanual Cleaver of Kansas City about Republicans
[1:10:56] Speaker 8: jerry mandering his seat. And so here's our conversation. Thymas Mcleaver,
[1:11:02] Speaker 8: I'm glad to have you here. Bottom line is this year,
[1:11:07] Speaker 8: you are one of the victims of the Republicans racial
[1:11:11] Speaker 8: gerry manderin in the three they wiped out your congressional
[1:11:15] Speaker 8: seat in the Kennes City area, and just just your
[1:11:20] Speaker 8: thoughts on what is happening after Donald Trump as mandated
[1:11:27] Speaker 8: the Texas Republicans get him five seats.
[1:11:30] Speaker 3: Well after that, after going to Texas, the President then
[1:11:35] Speaker 3: zeroed in on Governor kell up in Missouri. In Missouri
[1:11:39] Speaker 3: where I live in Kansas City in particular, did I
[1:11:44] Speaker 3: represent in Congress and represented the city as it's mayor
[1:11:48] Speaker 3: for eight years, and they were told to do a
[1:11:54] Speaker 3: special session, which they did immediately at the request of
[1:11:59] Speaker 3: the governor. And the only thing on the agenda for
[1:12:02] Speaker 3: the recess elimination was the fifth Congression district. Let's figure
[1:12:12] Speaker 3: out how we can take that district without jeopardizing any
[1:12:16] Speaker 3: of the non African American districts too. In our state,
[1:12:21] Speaker 3: Saint Louis represented by Wesley Bill, used to be represented
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: by Lacy Clay and before that his dad, and then
[1:12:31] Speaker 3: of course Cancer of Missouri, which is not a majority
[1:12:35] Speaker 3: of black district, has never been that way. We have
[1:12:41] Speaker 3: probably eighteen to twenty percent African American in the district.
[1:12:46] Speaker 3: But what they're doing, what they've done, is it's taking
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: the fifth district all the way out into the Ozarks
[1:12:52] Speaker 3: in Missouri and all the way near the University of Missouri.
[1:12:56] Speaker 16: They didn't go.
[1:12:57] Speaker 3: Too close because they didn't want the students there to
[1:12:59] Speaker 3: be able to vote for me get not only at MU,
[1:13:02] Speaker 3: but we have a large number of African American students
[1:13:06] Speaker 3: at Lincoln University, which is also nearby. So they took
[1:13:10] Speaker 3: great care to make sure that none of those students
[1:13:12] Speaker 3: who tend to vote for the liberal candidates and African Americans,
[1:13:18] Speaker 3: it doesn't matter with them, not less than their.
[1:13:22] Speaker 16: Parents and grandparents.
[1:13:24] Speaker 3: And so they did what they wanted, which was to
[1:13:26] Speaker 3: come in and do it in the Missouri General and
[1:13:28] Speaker 3: simply approved it. And I think it's horrible. It's in
[1:13:34] Speaker 3: some cases bigoted. I think that they are trying to
[1:13:38] Speaker 3: do illegally and morally from my vantage point, what they
[1:13:43] Speaker 3: could not do in terms of pure politics. They had
[1:13:50] Speaker 3: not been able to move me at all from Na
[1:13:55] Speaker 3: Sadaf Hill for twenty years, even though they went after
[1:13:58] Speaker 3: it every year every two years.
[1:14:00] Speaker 7: Uh.
[1:14:01] Speaker 3: And so they're going to have to win it again
[1:14:04] Speaker 3: because we're clearly not going to lay down and let
[1:14:08] Speaker 3: them just take the seat. That's what if that's what
[1:14:11] Speaker 3: they're expecting, as Jim Clyiver and I talked about there
[1:14:14] Speaker 3: before yesterday, expecting that in Kansas City. Maybe they're expecting
[1:14:18] Speaker 3: that in South Carolina. But that's not what they're going
[1:14:21] Speaker 3: to get.
[1:14:23] Speaker 8: To that particular point there. What we often see is
[1:14:27] Speaker 8: when these actions are taking canidates say, oh, you know,
[1:14:30] Speaker 8: I'm not going to run. And I've never understood that.
[1:14:34] Speaker 8: I've always believed that, all right, you changed the district.
[1:14:38] Speaker 8: I would rather go down fire fighting than to voluntarily
[1:14:41] Speaker 8: give up. And I say, man, go to those new voters,
[1:14:45] Speaker 8: make the peel and say in challenge whoever is running
[1:14:49] Speaker 8: to present an agenda.
[1:14:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim Claverton and I both that's exactly what we're
[1:14:55] Speaker 3: going to do. And I reminded one of my colleagues
[1:15:00] Speaker 3: that Jesse Jackson came to Missouri and tried desperately to
[1:15:06] Speaker 3: get people when he was running for president, to zero
[1:15:08] Speaker 3: ian on him as a candidate, and he did get
[1:15:13] Speaker 3: their attention. And farmers in Missouri were actually involved in
[1:15:20] Speaker 3: a two or three mile caravan coming from one of
[1:15:25] Speaker 3: the rulers into Kansas City, and they were attractors and
[1:15:29] Speaker 3: trucks and pickups led by Jesse Lewis Jackson. And so
[1:15:36] Speaker 3: we know that if we talk about the issues and
[1:15:39] Speaker 3: support the issues that they were interested in, that they're
[1:15:42] Speaker 3: going to listen.
[1:15:44] Speaker 16: I think it's just a pity that some people are
[1:15:51] Speaker 16: not going to fight.
[1:15:53] Speaker 3: I have a colleague from the state of Tennessee who
[1:15:57] Speaker 3: just said, you know, I'm out, and I think he
[1:16:02] Speaker 3: has represented his district involving Memphis quite well with you know,
[1:16:08] Speaker 3: something somewhere close to the to a ninety eight percent
[1:16:12] Speaker 3: voting record with NAACP, Urbanly and organized Labor. I mean,
[1:16:17] Speaker 3: you don't get too much better than that, no matter
[1:16:19] Speaker 3: what your color. So what you just spoke to me
[1:16:25] Speaker 3: a few moments ago is exactly where I am. I
[1:16:29] Speaker 3: can't speak for Jim Cliven, but I can tell you
[1:16:31] Speaker 3: that that's exactly where he is.
[1:16:35] Speaker 8: This really is a moment that requires fighters. What we're
[1:16:41] Speaker 8: seeing is the largest attack on black polical power since Reconstruction.
[1:16:47] Speaker 8: And I just fundamentally believe that this is a moment
[1:16:52] Speaker 8: where people are looking for folks who are going to
[1:16:54] Speaker 8: fight or are going to do battle. And also, you know,
[1:16:58] Speaker 8: we were there in Montgomery broadcasting the kickoff there for
[1:17:03] Speaker 8: Freedom Summer twenty twenty six, Freedom Fall. And this really
[1:17:06] Speaker 8: is the moment for black voters across Missouri, Definitely black
[1:17:11] Speaker 8: voters in Kansas City, across Missouri, across the South, in
[1:17:14] Speaker 8: this country. They have the largest Black voter mobilization since
[1:17:17] Speaker 8: the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act. Because what these
[1:17:21] Speaker 8: folks are trying to implement, it's not just a Republican agenda.
[1:17:26] Speaker 8: They are trying to implement a massive anti black agenda, Yes, no.
[1:17:31] Speaker 3: Question about it. And I think they're proud of themselves.
[1:17:35] Speaker 3: They've been waiting for an opportunity like this, and I
[1:17:40] Speaker 3: think we are going to have, I'm predicting now one
[1:17:45] Speaker 3: of the largest turnouts in Missouri history. And we may
[1:17:50] Speaker 3: have the same thing in some of the other districts
[1:17:54] Speaker 3: in Louisiana, South Carolina, very likely in fr Jia. You,
[1:18:01] Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to see people now resorting to
[1:18:08] Speaker 3: the kinds of things we did when I grew up
[1:18:10] Speaker 3: in SCLC during the nineteen seventies, and that is people
[1:18:15] Speaker 3: went up, went out and stood in the cold or
[1:18:17] Speaker 3: the rain, whatever they had to do to vote. And
[1:18:20] Speaker 3: I think we're going to see that. What my experience
[1:18:23] Speaker 3: is that people are angry. And the poll we took
[1:18:26] Speaker 3: in Missouri is shows that whites, neither whites nor Republicans, Democrats, vegetarians,
[1:18:41] Speaker 3: you know, pescatarians, everybody in the state of Missouri and
[1:18:45] Speaker 3: large numbers opposed the mid decade redistrict.
[1:18:49] Speaker 16: They think that they think it's unfair and it's.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: Not right, and.
[1:18:55] Speaker 3: We're going to have a turnout. My goal would be
[1:18:59] Speaker 3: the coming on the roll of Martin Show and talk
[1:19:03] Speaker 3: and talk to you about. Uh this this huge turnout
[1:19:08] Speaker 3: that we had after the election, because I think I
[1:19:12] Speaker 3: think things are coming together.
[1:19:14] Speaker 2: Uh.
[1:19:16] Speaker 3: The a large number of the ministers and now the
[1:19:19] Speaker 3: CBC are asking black athletes not to sign letters of
[1:19:25] Speaker 3: intent to go to the SEC schools.
[1:19:28] Speaker 16: They can go to you know Big.
[1:19:30] Speaker 3: Ten, Michigan, Michigan, State, at USC, Oregon, some some some
[1:19:36] Speaker 3: football powerhouses.
[1:19:38] Speaker 17: Uh.
[1:19:39] Speaker 16: But uh, you know, if you if you look at
[1:19:42] Speaker 16: the SEC.
[1:19:43] Speaker 3: Schools and then you look at where the attempt is
[1:19:47] Speaker 3: being made to silence black elected officials.
[1:19:51] Speaker 16: Uh there's one insane Uh.
[1:19:54] Speaker 3: You know l s U, Urban Alabama, Mississippi, Uh, Florida,
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: and it goes actually over into Texas, not SEC necessarily,
[1:20:06] Speaker 3: but they said don't go there. And we're having athletes
[1:20:11] Speaker 3: responding now to the call by the minority leaders Kim Jefferies.
[1:20:18] Speaker 3: When we had our press company, we had we had
[1:20:23] Speaker 3: athletes from Washington, d C. Standing with us who are
[1:20:28] Speaker 3: Georgetown and who at Maryland. They said, we're going to
[1:20:32] Speaker 3: We're going to join in allegiance with our brothers and
[1:20:35] Speaker 3: sisters who live in the SEC area. There are a
[1:20:37] Speaker 3: lot of other schools east coast, west coast, north coast
[1:20:41] Speaker 3: where people can go. And I think this, this giant
[1:20:46] Speaker 3: may have been awakened at a level that I haven't
[1:20:50] Speaker 3: seen since the nineteen seventies.
[1:20:53] Speaker 8: What specifically are you and your campaign going to do
[1:20:57] Speaker 8: to really target those eighteen to thirty nine When I
[1:21:00] Speaker 8: look at the exit polls out of Georgia, they represented
[1:21:04] Speaker 8: nine percent of folks who voted. Millennials Gen Z are
[1:21:09] Speaker 8: the largest demographic, the larger than Baby Boomers, the larger
[1:21:12] Speaker 8: than Gen X, and they really have got to be
[1:21:17] Speaker 8: touched and activated because we talk about these policies. Look,
[1:21:23] Speaker 8: they're the ones who are going to be impacted, okay,
[1:21:26] Speaker 8: and not you, not me, And so they really need
[1:21:31] Speaker 8: to be engaged. And I've said that when it comes
[1:21:34] Speaker 8: to black turnout, the baseline, the bottom, the minimum should
[1:21:39] Speaker 8: be seventy percent of elder black voters. We cannot get
[1:21:43] Speaker 8: to that relying just on folks who are forty plus.
[1:21:49] Speaker 8: It really especially sixty five plus and those folks in
[1:21:52] Speaker 8: fifty to sixty four. It is going to require black
[1:21:56] Speaker 8: voters eighteen to thirty nine to turn out in big numbers.
[1:22:00] Speaker 3: My, my, my, Uh, my children would agree with you,
[1:22:06] Speaker 3: uh and more in fact, they are. They had a
[1:22:11] Speaker 3: conversation with me about that this past week.
[1:22:14] Speaker 4: Uh.
[1:22:15] Speaker 3: And and they they did say say to me, they said, look,
[1:22:19] Speaker 3: your online presence has to change.
[1:22:21] Speaker 10: Uh.
[1:22:21] Speaker 3: This is not going to be the uh fifty year
[1:22:25] Speaker 3: olds up upward in this race who are going to
[1:22:29] Speaker 3: pick the next member of Congress.
[1:22:31] Speaker 16: And they say it's going to be us.
[1:22:33] Speaker 3: And I think they're absolutely right in And so we're
[1:22:37] Speaker 3: in the process right now looking at and trying to
[1:22:39] Speaker 3: figure out how to to to do this at the
[1:22:42] Speaker 3: at the optimum level. Do you know online with an
[1:22:45] Speaker 3: online president, they don't you know, the day is over
[1:22:49] Speaker 3: where you run ads on television. Uh, that's just that's
[1:22:53] Speaker 3: just not where they are.
[1:22:56] Speaker 20: Uh.
[1:22:56] Speaker 16: My kids don't watch Uh. I do the uh you know,
[1:23:02] Speaker 16: evening news or uh, they've not.
[1:23:05] Speaker 3: In large numbers watching Meet the Press and uh you
[1:23:10] Speaker 3: know the Sunday morning uh elite talk shows.
[1:23:15] Speaker 16: I mean they're online.
[1:23:17] Speaker 3: They don't take the newspapers anymore. They get their news
[1:23:20] Speaker 3: from from online. And so you're absolutely right. And I've
[1:23:26] Speaker 3: just begun to talk to young people with whom I've
[1:23:29] Speaker 3: been connected, people like you that you know, like Angela
[1:23:32] Speaker 3: Rye and uh you know who has a podcast.
[1:23:37] Speaker 16: And and uh and she's telling me the same thing.
[1:23:40] Speaker 3: You need to go elsewhere in a campaign, which is
[1:23:45] Speaker 3: what we're getting organized to do right now.
[1:23:50] Speaker 8: Well, this is going to be a critical year. Uh,
[1:23:55] Speaker 8: and again for African Americans, whether we're talking about Missouri, Texas,
[1:24:00] Speaker 8: whether we're talking about obviously southern states. We see what
[1:24:04] Speaker 8: they've done to Don Davis's district in North Carolina, obviously Alabama,
[1:24:10] Speaker 8: wiping out the seat in tennessee what they're doing in Florida.
[1:24:13] Speaker 8: And so what I continually say to African Americans, the
[1:24:18] Speaker 8: only response that we have is to have an overwhelming
[1:24:22] Speaker 8: presence at the ballot box and destroy those folks who
[1:24:27] Speaker 8: are trying to destroy black institutions.
[1:24:32] Speaker 16: You just said it better than I could.
[1:24:33] Speaker 8: Reverend Well, good luck in the campaign, and we certainly
[1:24:38] Speaker 8: appreciate you joining us.
[1:24:39] Speaker 16: Praft. Thanks a lot.
[1:24:40] Speaker 8: Good to be with you. That things folks going to
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[1:25:24] Speaker 8: California governor's race seems to be turning into a three
[1:25:28] Speaker 8: way fight. Latest tracking poll commissioner the California Democratic Party
[1:25:32] Speaker 8: production from May fourteen through sixteenth has GP candidate Steve
[1:25:35] Speaker 8: Hilton and Democratic candidate and former State Attorney General in
[1:25:38] Speaker 8: the Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Sarah tie for
[1:25:41] Speaker 8: the lead, each with tweeny two percent of the vote
[1:25:44] Speaker 8: coming in third is billionaire Tom Starr at fifteen percent.
[1:25:47] Speaker 8: California has a jungle primary, meaning it's not Republican primary,
[1:25:51] Speaker 8: Democratic primary, it's the top two vote getters. And joining
[1:25:55] Speaker 8: us right now is Xavier Psara. Glad to have you
[1:25:58] Speaker 8: here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. It has been a topsy turvy.
[1:26:03] Speaker 8: Early on, former Congressman Katie Porter was in the lead.
[1:26:06] Speaker 8: Then of course you had former Congressmroan Eric Swallwell. Then
[1:26:09] Speaker 8: all of a sudden, allegations hit him, he has to
[1:26:12] Speaker 8: drop out. A lot of people have been saying there's
[1:26:15] Speaker 8: too many Democrats in the race, more folks should be
[1:26:17] Speaker 8: dropping out. I think lieutenant governor also or another candidate
[1:26:21] Speaker 8: dropped out. So it's a whole lot going on. So
[1:26:25] Speaker 8: how do you cut through all of that in order
[1:26:28] Speaker 8: for you to lay in those top two spots?
[1:26:32] Speaker 21: So Rowan first, thanks for having me by the way,
[1:26:34] Speaker 21: x like an h and Mike case So Xavier, But
[1:26:38] Speaker 21: do it, yeah, yeah, And the way you do it
[1:26:42] Speaker 21: is by giving people the confidence.
[1:26:44] Speaker 22: That you actually know what you're gonna do.
[1:26:46] Speaker 21: Because with all the crises that we're facing, whether it's
[1:26:49] Speaker 21: the affordability crisis that everyone's facing, back home, or it's
[1:26:53] Speaker 21: the man made crisis coming out of Washington, d C.
[1:26:55] Speaker 21: You want someone who won't need training wheels the moment
[1:26:58] Speaker 21: they walk into the governor's office. And I've had an opportunity,
[1:27:01] Speaker 21: whether it's the former Secretary of Health and Human Services
[1:27:04] Speaker 21: during the COVID pandemic, or as the Attorney general for
[1:27:07] Speaker 21: California when Trump was president the first time, or as
[1:27:10] Speaker 21: a member of Congress for twenty four years.
[1:27:12] Speaker 22: I've been there, have done that, and I can say
[1:27:14] Speaker 22: that I can get us out of crisis.
[1:27:16] Speaker 21: So I think people are hearing that it sticks, and
[1:27:20] Speaker 21: I think that's why I was able to jump.
[1:27:21] Speaker 22: Up in the polls and now leading the polls.
[1:27:25] Speaker 8: Obviously, affordability is the dominant issue in airpublican race across
[1:27:30] Speaker 8: the country. There are some who say California it is
[1:27:33] Speaker 8: way too expensive. People are leaving the state. What can
[1:27:38] Speaker 8: you do as governor to address that issue for California voters.
[1:27:43] Speaker 21: Yeah, that's job one is to address the affordability crisis.
[1:27:47] Speaker 21: So we've the legislature fortunately and our current Governor Newsom.
[1:27:51] Speaker 21: They've worked hard to try to make it easier to
[1:27:54] Speaker 21: build homes in California to reduce the pressure the demand
[1:27:58] Speaker 21: and therefore help reduce the price. That should help housing
[1:28:01] Speaker 21: become more affordable. We have to make sure that we're
[1:28:04] Speaker 21: continuing to provide healthcare to our population. As you know Roland,
[1:28:08] Speaker 21: when the Trump administration cut a trillion dollars out of
[1:28:11] Speaker 21: the healthcare system by gutting Medicaid, he makes it hard.
[1:28:15] Speaker 22: In California.
[1:28:16] Speaker 21: There are about three million Californians who are set to
[1:28:19] Speaker 21: lose their health insurance coverage as a result of Donald Trump.
[1:28:22] Speaker 22: We're not going to go there if I become governor.
[1:28:24] Speaker 22: We're going to.
[1:28:24] Speaker 21: Continue to provide healthcare because it's penny wise, pound foolish
[1:28:29] Speaker 21: to cut people off of having access to a pediatrician
[1:28:33] Speaker 21: or a family family doc, because ultimately they're going to
[1:28:35] Speaker 21: get their healthcare. They're just going to go to the er,
[1:28:38] Speaker 21: the most expensive place to do health care at the
[1:28:40] Speaker 21: end of the day. So we're going to do the
[1:28:42] Speaker 21: things that keep California moving forward, make it more affordable.
[1:28:45] Speaker 21: If you want to come to California, we want you.
[1:28:47] Speaker 21: If you already hear, we want.
[1:28:48] Speaker 16: You to stay.
[1:28:50] Speaker 8: Housing also is a dominant issue as well, and we've
[1:28:53] Speaker 8: seen the prices explode. Of governor, how do you help
[1:28:58] Speaker 8: spur frankly housing, but affordable housing in the state.
[1:29:05] Speaker 22: We have right now in housing, affordable housing units that
[1:29:12] Speaker 22: are ready to go.
[1:29:13] Speaker 21: They are shovel ready, they've passed through their permitting requirements,
[1:29:18] Speaker 21: they have penciled out.
[1:29:20] Speaker 22: The only thing missing is enough money to put shovel
[1:29:23] Speaker 22: and ground.
[1:29:24] Speaker 21: And so one of the things that I've said on
[1:29:25] Speaker 21: this campaign is in my firste hundred days, I've already
[1:29:28] Speaker 21: told some of the legislators in California that I'm going
[1:29:31] Speaker 21: to be working with them to make sure that we
[1:29:33] Speaker 21: help get these projects underway, shovel in ground, so people
[1:29:38] Speaker 21: have confidence to know that we are actually going to
[1:29:40] Speaker 21: build the units that we need for folks who need
[1:29:43] Speaker 21: to have affordable housing available to them.
[1:29:45] Speaker 22: That's one thing. Secondly, I'm going to boost these programs
[1:29:48] Speaker 22: that already are in place.
[1:29:49] Speaker 21: I'm just going to expand them that make down payment
[1:29:51] Speaker 21: assistance more possible for a lot of families, because most
[1:29:55] Speaker 21: families in California, when they're renting, they're essentially paid a
[1:29:58] Speaker 21: mortgage every month.
[1:29:59] Speaker 22: It's just they're paying the mortgage for somebody else, the landlord.
[1:30:02] Speaker 22: Why not pay it so you can own the place.
[1:30:04] Speaker 21: And so if we can help with down payment assistance,
[1:30:06] Speaker 21: because that's the only thing that most of these families lack.
[1:30:09] Speaker 22: We'll be able to make them homeowners.
[1:30:10] Speaker 21: And the most important thing, as you know about that,
[1:30:13] Speaker 21: is that if you want to ever generate wealth, you
[1:30:17] Speaker 21: need to start owning assets that appreciate in value, and
[1:30:20] Speaker 21: that's typically your home. If you go paycheck to paycheck
[1:30:23] Speaker 21: literly enough of your income what you earn every month,
[1:30:26] Speaker 21: you're never going to have the wealth that you need
[1:30:28] Speaker 21: to get ready for retirement. So I really want to
[1:30:30] Speaker 21: boost home ownership in California so we can have families
[1:30:33] Speaker 21: build wealth. And that's really crucial in the black community,
[1:30:37] Speaker 21: in the brown community, because too many of our families
[1:30:39] Speaker 21: don't have the opportunity to own their own home.
[1:30:42] Speaker 8: You've got this one time tax increase for billionaires. It's
[1:30:47] Speaker 8: going to be on the ballot in November as well,
[1:30:49] Speaker 8: and you've got a lot of billionaires who are man
[1:30:52] Speaker 8: of set threatening to leave the state. I mean, it
[1:30:55] Speaker 8: is stunning to me to listen to the the co
[1:31:00] Speaker 8: founders of Google, I mean, people with gobs and gobs
[1:31:04] Speaker 8: and gobs of money. When these companies, when you look
[1:31:08] Speaker 8: at the tax rate that they actually pays virtually nothing.
[1:31:12] Speaker 8: They don't give themselves salar. They live off of capital means.
[1:31:15] Speaker 8: I mean, my god, Like, you're losing your mind over
[1:31:19] Speaker 8: a five percent one time tax.
[1:31:23] Speaker 16: Yeah.
[1:31:23] Speaker 21: Well, it's one of those things where if you've got it,
[1:31:26] Speaker 21: you don't want to give it up. And tax policy,
[1:31:30] Speaker 21: whether you're a billionaire or you're making minimum wage, nobody
[1:31:34] Speaker 21: likes taxes, and so we have to recognize.
[1:31:36] Speaker 8: That nobody likes taxes until they need something from the state.
[1:31:41] Speaker 8: And so when they need roads and bridges in infrastructure,
[1:31:45] Speaker 8: or when there's a natural disaster, it's amazing how they
[1:31:48] Speaker 8: then would love some taxpayer money.
[1:31:51] Speaker 21: Yeah, it's like this conversation where people are saying we
[1:31:54] Speaker 21: should suspend the gas tax. Well, then how are you
[1:31:56] Speaker 21: going to fix the roads and retrofit the bridges and
[1:31:59] Speaker 21: make sure the potholes are filled.
[1:32:02] Speaker 22: You need the revenues to make that happen.
[1:32:04] Speaker 21: And so you're right, people understand that we pay taxes
[1:32:08] Speaker 21: so we can have an infrastructure in our society.
[1:32:11] Speaker 22: On this billionaire.
[1:32:13] Speaker 21: Initiative, the difficulty, I think is that it's a one
[1:32:16] Speaker 21: time deal and we need to have tax policy. As
[1:32:20] Speaker 21: I tell people, and I served on the ways and
[1:32:21] Speaker 21: Means Committee for for twenty years. That's the tax writing
[1:32:24] Speaker 21: committee in the House of Representatives. You need to have
[1:32:28] Speaker 21: tax tax policy that is fair, that's predictable, and that's stable.
[1:32:33] Speaker 21: And unfortunately, this initiative, I think is going to ultimately
[1:32:37] Speaker 21: have a difficult time because it's not predictable and it's
[1:32:41] Speaker 21: not stable. It only is a one time deal. Most
[1:32:44] Speaker 21: of the money goes for healthcare, which is good, but
[1:32:46] Speaker 21: I guarantee you we need money for our schools, we
[1:32:48] Speaker 21: need money to help build our homes, and so my
[1:32:51] Speaker 21: suspicion is that it will have a difficult time once
[1:32:54] Speaker 21: people look a little bit closer into But we need
[1:32:57] Speaker 21: to make sure if we need revenue, we get it
[1:32:59] Speaker 21: from folks who are paying their fair share. Absolutely, and
[1:33:02] Speaker 21: there's no doubt that billionaires are not paying their fair share.
[1:33:05] Speaker 22: As you mentioned Roland.
[1:33:07] Speaker 21: Chances are most billionaires are paying at a lower effective
[1:33:10] Speaker 21: tax rate than are you know, that teacher, that firefighter,
[1:33:14] Speaker 21: that nurse, that police officer, And no one who's making
[1:33:18] Speaker 21: millions or billions should be paying less ineffective tax rates
[1:33:21] Speaker 21: than someone who's one of those.
[1:33:22] Speaker 8: Four data centers have been talked about all around the country,
[1:33:28] Speaker 8: and a lot of people don't like some of these
[1:33:32] Speaker 8: data centers getting billions of dollars in millions of dollars
[1:33:36] Speaker 8: in tax breaks from states in local governments. What is
[1:33:39] Speaker 8: your position on tax breaks for data centers.
[1:33:45] Speaker 22: Well, I think data centers can be California is home
[1:33:50] Speaker 22: to the tech industry.
[1:33:52] Speaker 21: California is home to AI, and California will continue to
[1:33:58] Speaker 21: benefit from having AI. We have to do more to
[1:34:01] Speaker 21: make sure we know where it's going to go and
[1:34:03] Speaker 21: benefits the communities that are in California. And so if
[1:34:06] Speaker 21: data centers are going to be located here, it should
[1:34:09] Speaker 21: be because they are being good community partners, which means
[1:34:12] Speaker 21: not only are they paying their fair share, but they
[1:34:14] Speaker 21: should help a community build up its infrastructure, whether it's
[1:34:18] Speaker 21: on the electricity, whether it's on the water. We want
[1:34:21] Speaker 21: to make sure that if AI is coming to California,
[1:34:24] Speaker 21: that it is doing more than just soaking up the
[1:34:28] Speaker 21: energy it needs without doing its fair share to help
[1:34:30] Speaker 21: the surrounding communities prosper as well. So we'll make sure
[1:34:34] Speaker 21: that we continue to have tech AI come to California,
[1:34:40] Speaker 21: do right by California and the industry will do well
[1:34:43] Speaker 21: as well.
[1:34:47] Speaker 8: But how do you also protect water supply electric calls.
[1:34:52] Speaker 8: Those a lot have been the criticism we've heard from
[1:34:55] Speaker 8: so many other places where people that was a congression
[1:34:58] Speaker 8: of hearing the other day and comes when Alexandra Queso
[1:35:01] Speaker 8: Cortez held up bottles of extremely dirty water that has
[1:35:05] Speaker 8: infected whales in one particular state.
[1:35:09] Speaker 21: Yeah, so that's I said that if they're going to
[1:35:13] Speaker 21: locate in California, they have to help us with our infrastructure,
[1:35:16] Speaker 21: whether it's on the water side or whether it's on
[1:35:18] Speaker 21: the electricity side. So when they come in, they will
[1:35:22] Speaker 21: understand that they have to be complete and good community partners,
[1:35:27] Speaker 21: which means that we won't have those circumstances where they're
[1:35:31] Speaker 21: leaving dirty water.
[1:35:32] Speaker 22: In fact, they will help us build out our water infrastructure.
[1:35:35] Speaker 21: They will help us build out our grid and our
[1:35:38] Speaker 21: electrical capacity. And if they're not willing to do that,
[1:35:44] Speaker 21: then there are plenty of places they can locate. But
[1:35:47] Speaker 21: having California benefit from the technology industry and AI industry
[1:35:52] Speaker 21: is a good thing, so long as we work as
[1:35:54] Speaker 21: partners to make sure everyone benefits from this. And I
[1:35:57] Speaker 21: will say this because I think most people understand this.
[1:36:00] Speaker 21: California already is the fourth largest economy in the world,
[1:36:05] Speaker 21: just the state of California by itself, it ranks only
[1:36:08] Speaker 21: behind the US overall China and Japan, and then after Japan,
[1:36:14] Speaker 21: then the biggest economic force in the world is the
[1:36:18] Speaker 21: state of California, and part of that is because of
[1:36:21] Speaker 21: the tech industry, and so we benefit from that.
[1:36:24] Speaker 22: But we have to make sure the benefits of that
[1:36:27] Speaker 22: go to all folks.
[1:36:28] Speaker 21: But as we just finished talking about housing, there are
[1:36:30] Speaker 21: too many families in California you can't even.
[1:36:32] Speaker 22: Afford to buy a house.
[1:36:33] Speaker 21: And so we may be the fourth largest economy in
[1:36:35] Speaker 21: the world with a lot of prosperity, but it's clearly
[1:36:37] Speaker 21: not getting to enough people. That's what we got to change,
[1:36:40] Speaker 21: because we want it to be that the forty million
[1:36:43] Speaker 21: people of California can all believe they're going to prosper
[1:36:46] Speaker 21: from everything that all the assets that California brings to
[1:36:49] Speaker 21: the table.
[1:36:50] Speaker 8: All right, then, Jababasara was certainly appreciated. Good luck in
[1:36:54] Speaker 8: this campaign. The primary is June second, June second, come soon,
[1:36:59] Speaker 8: all right, appreciate it, thanks a lot, Thank you, folks.
[1:37:03] Speaker 8: We talk about what's happening in this country. Jered Bannen
[1:37:07] Speaker 8: a huge, huge issue and I got a chance to
[1:37:10] Speaker 8: catch up with Conrence and Jim Clyburn of South Carolina.
[1:37:13] Speaker 8: We talked about what is going on in his state
[1:37:16] Speaker 8: and how Macan Republicans are targeting him in wiping out
[1:37:20] Speaker 8: his district. Here's our conversation Cards and Clyburn. Clearly, the
[1:37:28] Speaker 8: governor of South Carolina does not control his own state. Initially, Republicans,
[1:37:36] Speaker 8: of course, joined with Democrats in not advancing the changing
[1:37:40] Speaker 8: of the maps there. Then he decided to call a
[1:37:43] Speaker 8: special session, and clearly he is being controlled by sixteen
[1:37:48] Speaker 8: hundred Pennsylvania Avenue Well.
[1:37:52] Speaker 10: I was very disappointed with the government's decision many others
[1:38:00] Speaker 10: in South Carolina. I was led to believe that he
[1:38:06] Speaker 10: would leave it up to the legislature to work its will,
[1:38:11] Speaker 10: and I think that occurred when the Senate decided not
[1:38:17] Speaker 10: to go forward with the mid term redistrictant, not because
[1:38:24] Speaker 10: of any thing political, but because two years ago the
[1:38:32] Speaker 10: Supreme Court ruled that what had taken place in South
[1:38:38] Speaker 10: Carolina after the last redistrictant was in fact constitutional, and
[1:38:45] Speaker 10: that the congressional districts were not racially drawn. But it
[1:38:52] Speaker 10: seemed as if someone in the White House more concerned
[1:38:59] Speaker 10: about the individual then itself so I suspect that I
[1:39:10] Speaker 10: have a few people up in the White House who
[1:39:14] Speaker 10: I would not call close friends.
[1:39:18] Speaker 8: Well, that's no doubt. And what we're seeing is we're
[1:39:22] Speaker 8: seeing these attacks take place on black political power all
[1:39:26] Speaker 8: across the South. We saw what happened in Tennessee and Alabama, Mississippi.
[1:39:32] Speaker 8: The leader of the Democratic Party of Mississippi estimates that
[1:39:36] Speaker 8: twenty four black districts on the state level could be impacted.
[1:39:41] Speaker 8: And so this louisiannivers Kalay decision, you know, Supreme Court decided,
[1:39:46] Speaker 8: could have devastating impact. And what I keep telling people,
[1:39:49] Speaker 8: it's not just losing black book representation. It's also going
[1:39:53] Speaker 8: to lead to the loss of billions of dollars that
[1:39:56] Speaker 8: flow back to the black community through public product.
[1:40:00] Speaker 10: Jack Absolutely, you know. One of the things that I
[1:40:05] Speaker 10: find surprising the number of Southerners, I mean not necessarily
[1:40:14] Speaker 10: Black Southerners, but Southerners who seem not.
[1:40:21] Speaker 12: To realize that there are being used.
[1:40:26] Speaker 4: In a very.
[1:40:29] Speaker 12: I would say, not complementary way.
[1:40:34] Speaker 22: When you have.
[1:40:38] Speaker 10: The resources in your states being misused and your states
[1:40:45] Speaker 10: being denied, somebody's gonna benefit from that. And if you
[1:40:52] Speaker 10: look at just in my case, the congressional district that
[1:40:56] Speaker 10: I represent, it's about forty five percent after America.
[1:41:02] Speaker 12: Now I did see according to the census, it's only
[1:41:05] Speaker 12: for the three percent for the four percent block.
[1:41:11] Speaker 10: And that means that those of us who are there,
[1:41:16] Speaker 10: who have developed a certain amount of seniority in cachet
[1:41:22] Speaker 10: and presence here in the Congress, are able to do
[1:41:28] Speaker 10: things in the state that a brand new person would
[1:41:33] Speaker 10: not be able to do. And as one white Republicans
[1:41:39] Speaker 10: said to me, who are we going to replace you
[1:41:44] Speaker 10: with somebody who can't find the room where the Transportation
[1:41:50] Speaker 10: Committee meets when you're sitting there as a ranking member.
[1:41:56] Speaker 10: And Democrats were to take back the House, which so
[1:42:01] Speaker 10: many people are predicting will occur, then the chairmanship of
[1:42:06] Speaker 10: that Transportation Hut committee that I will have will go
[1:42:12] Speaker 10: to another state, and it would not be a Southern state.
[1:42:16] Speaker 10: And this is the kind of stuff that I would
[1:42:19] Speaker 10: hope the Southern legislatures will take a look at. There
[1:42:25] Speaker 10: would much rather deny their state the resources that could
[1:42:30] Speaker 10: come from a Bennet Thompson.
[1:42:33] Speaker 26: Or from.
[1:42:37] Speaker 12: Some others. Barber Scott uh In, chair of.
[1:42:43] Speaker 10: The Education Committee, and many many other subcommittee chairs will
[1:42:53] Speaker 10: be lost to.
[1:42:54] Speaker 12: These Southern states.
[1:42:57] Speaker 10: And the beneficiaries of that loss it could be non
[1:43:02] Speaker 10: Southern states.
[1:43:03] Speaker 12: So I just hate to see.
[1:43:07] Speaker 10: This leadership of my state be so shortsighted with us.
[1:43:13] Speaker 10: This is something that seemed not to be or that
[1:43:18] Speaker 10: important to them, so long as they can get rid
[1:43:23] Speaker 10: of the color.
[1:43:27] Speaker 8: And that's exactly and that's exactly what this is. I
[1:43:30] Speaker 8: this is the absolute targeting of African Americans. This Supreme Court,
[1:43:36] Speaker 8: what I call this extreme court. They are allowing it.
[1:43:39] Speaker 8: Their decision making to me, is grossly disrespectful. It goes
[1:43:43] Speaker 8: against their own president. In December, they said that it
[1:43:48] Speaker 8: was too late to challenge or too late to impact
[1:43:54] Speaker 8: the elections in Texas because the primary was in March,
[1:43:56] Speaker 8: but Louisiana and Alabama headed which is a week away,
[1:44:01] Speaker 8: and they allowed them to make changes. And so, to
[1:44:04] Speaker 8: be honest, it is clear that this extreme court is
[1:44:08] Speaker 8: doing the work of the Republican Party. They are not nonpartisan,
[1:44:12] Speaker 8: they're not independent, and their decision making, their rulings speak
[1:44:17] Speaker 8: clearly to that.
[1:44:19] Speaker 10: Well, you know, I started saying back when Citizens United
[1:44:22] Speaker 10: was first, uh clear, when that decision came down, I
[1:44:28] Speaker 10: said at the time that this is the kind of
[1:44:31] Speaker 10: decision that was right alongside dred Scott as being among
[1:44:37] Speaker 10: the worst decisions ever hunded down by thiss of being caught. Now,
[1:44:42] Speaker 10: a lot of people look at me like I was crazy.
[1:44:45] Speaker 10: Can you find somebody asked me, how could you equate
[1:44:48] Speaker 10: the two us? I'm not doing that in the richer way.
[1:44:51] Speaker 10: I'm saying how bad the decision is. When you make
[1:44:55] Speaker 10: a decision as you do in Citizen United and equate
[1:45:00] Speaker 10: a corporation with a human being, what you've just done
[1:45:05] Speaker 10: is dilute the impact of individuals.
[1:45:10] Speaker 12: That make up the government. We the people.
[1:45:14] Speaker 10: It's not that we the corporations or the companies, We
[1:45:19] Speaker 10: the people. And so what you've done is lessen the
[1:45:23] Speaker 10: importance and the impact of the people, because the head
[1:45:29] Speaker 10: to the corporations will get the second bite out of
[1:45:34] Speaker 10: the apple when we the people get all in one.
[1:45:37] Speaker 10: And I saw this because if you go into the
[1:45:42] Speaker 10: case and look at what has happened now, you have
[1:45:46] Speaker 10: unlimited contributions coming in the campaigns from corporations, and these
[1:45:52] Speaker 10: corporations are really impacting in the big way result of
[1:46:00] Speaker 10: these elections. And that's what you see that when you
[1:46:04] Speaker 10: have the President of the United States said I oppose
[1:46:11] Speaker 10: this person's re election, and all of a sudden, all
[1:46:14] Speaker 10: of this dark money polls in there. Nobody knows where
[1:46:17] Speaker 10: the money's coming from. All of that was allowed by
[1:46:22] Speaker 10: Citizens United. And then that decision was followed by Shelby
[1:46:30] Speaker 10: be Older when the Supreme Court said, there's no more
[1:46:37] Speaker 10: need for preclerance, which is allowed among the Section five
[1:46:44] Speaker 10: of the voting right side is out lived its usefulness,
[1:46:49] Speaker 10: and so they got rid of Section five, another step
[1:46:55] Speaker 10: on this road to what I call Jim pro two
[1:47:01] Speaker 10: point zero. Now, when the court is should that go
[1:47:07] Speaker 10: back and look at what Roberts said. He said, we
[1:47:10] Speaker 10: know this may be or something may happen. Now on
[1:47:14] Speaker 10: paraphrasing here, but all you got to look at decisions
[1:47:19] Speaker 10: that something may happen under.
[1:47:21] Speaker 12: This pre Clarence rule to be getting rid of.
[1:47:24] Speaker 10: For Section two is still sitting there, which will allow
[1:47:27] Speaker 10: for a right of action if someone is injured under
[1:47:33] Speaker 10: the absence of pre Clarence. Then they come up with
[1:47:37] Speaker 10: this decision and get rid of section two. So they
[1:47:43] Speaker 10: were taking these steps in order to get to where
[1:47:46] Speaker 10: they wanted to go, and this seemed to be the
[1:47:52] Speaker 10: last step on this journey. But I suspect they'll find
[1:47:57] Speaker 10: another one to not just deny, but to suppress, because
[1:48:04] Speaker 10: there's one thing to make it difficult to be able
[1:48:10] Speaker 10: to vote, but it's something else when you start making
[1:48:14] Speaker 10: decisions to wait the voting.
[1:48:17] Speaker 16: I can see.
[1:48:19] Speaker 10: The Supreme Court getting to a point where one community
[1:48:25] Speaker 10: is vote that will weigh more heavily than another community's vote,
[1:48:32] Speaker 10: so long as you do it geographically and don't do
[1:48:35] Speaker 10: it by race. It's almost like saying, if you come
[1:48:40] Speaker 10: from one neighborhood, you can get a margage to buy
[1:48:46] Speaker 10: a house. The bard of money is necessary, but if
[1:48:52] Speaker 10: you come from another neighborhood you can't. What you call
[1:48:56] Speaker 10: a redliner, you know, chair the Community Reinvestment that committee
[1:49:03] Speaker 10: of what used to be seen as Citizen Southern National
[1:49:08] Speaker 10: Bank and seeing their sovereign two of the predecessor banks
[1:49:14] Speaker 10: to what is now Bank of America. So I know
[1:49:17] Speaker 10: about red lining in our communities were red line in
[1:49:22] Speaker 10: order to provide loans. I can see red lining can
[1:49:28] Speaker 10: be used to determine political participation as well. And for
[1:49:33] Speaker 10: anybody who says, oh, that won't happen, just look back
[1:49:38] Speaker 10: at the history.
[1:49:39] Speaker 16: As you're aware.
[1:49:40] Speaker 10: I wrote a book that was released last November talking
[1:49:45] Speaker 10: about the first eight African Americans that served in Congress
[1:49:49] Speaker 10: from South Carolina before me, I'm the ninth, but then
[1:49:54] Speaker 10: nine to five years between number eight and number nine.
[1:49:57] Speaker 12: How did that happen?
[1:49:59] Speaker 10: That happened because the Supreme Court starting with the slaughter
[1:50:03] Speaker 10: House cases and come and running down through history all
[1:50:07] Speaker 10: the way up to pleas It versus Ferguson.
[1:50:11] Speaker 16: What did that?
[1:50:12] Speaker 12: Canse stand for? Yes, under the Constitution, you've got rights.
[1:50:20] Speaker 10: Thirteenth Amendment feed you from slavery, Fourteenth Amendment give you
[1:50:27] Speaker 10: equal protection to the laws, and the Fifteenth Amendment gave
[1:50:31] Speaker 10: you the right to vote.
[1:50:33] Speaker 12: But the Supreme Court.
[1:50:34] Speaker 10: Decided, yes, you can be separate and still be equal.
[1:50:43] Speaker 10: Would that be at having on one side of the
[1:50:46] Speaker 10: track or the other side of the track, with the
[1:50:51] Speaker 10: track separate you, but you equal on either side. That's
[1:50:57] Speaker 10: the kind of reasoning the Supreme Court is now making.
[1:51:04] Speaker 10: In nineteen fifty four, if you read Brown before the Education,
[1:51:09] Speaker 10: the Supreme Court hell as Briggs fie Editt did, he
[1:51:15] Speaker 10: did in nineteen forty eight decision that segregation separate but
[1:51:23] Speaker 10: equal is inherently unequal, inherently unequal.
[1:51:30] Speaker 12: So when you have these combinations of things. You can
[1:51:35] Speaker 12: see that this Supreme Court.
[1:51:39] Speaker 10: Is and I've been saying this, I think that Justice
[1:51:43] Speaker 10: Roberts history will treat him the same way it's treated
[1:51:48] Speaker 10: Roger Tanne, who is a Chief Justice Supreme Court that
[1:51:52] Speaker 10: issued the opinion in Dressed Scott. I know he didn't
[1:51:57] Speaker 10: write the opinion. So for those people said, well so
[1:52:01] Speaker 10: Tenant was just the chief Justice, but he didn't write
[1:52:03] Speaker 10: the opinion. Well, h he wrote the opinion, but this
[1:52:10] Speaker 10: chief Justice did not write the opinion he collected. He's
[1:52:15] Speaker 10: still the chief Justice the Preme Court he assigns, which
[1:52:19] Speaker 10: just would write the opinion. So don't tell me he
[1:52:22] Speaker 10: didn't write it, because he is just the person he
[1:52:26] Speaker 10: assigned in this case.
[1:52:27] Speaker 12: Alito wrote it. Well, same thing.
[1:52:33] Speaker 8: Well, you made that point about in terms of them
[1:52:40] Speaker 8: speaking of black voters how race cannot be used, but
[1:52:45] Speaker 8: clearly it's okay for white folks. I mean, what they
[1:52:49] Speaker 8: are saying is, hey, we got no problem if you
[1:52:53] Speaker 8: have sixty five seventy seventy five percent white districts, and
[1:52:58] Speaker 8: then this whole notion that all that that we that
[1:53:01] Speaker 8: we have to protect the interests of white voters when
[1:53:05] Speaker 8: they've never let representation.
[1:53:09] Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, that's so.
[1:53:10] Speaker 10: Interesting because the congressional district that they had drawn me into,
[1:53:17] Speaker 10: which was forty five percent block, that congressionaltiction is now
[1:53:23] Speaker 10: seventy five percent white. But South Carolina itself is not
[1:53:30] Speaker 10: setting to five percent white. So it's okay for a
[1:53:33] Speaker 10: district to be seventy five percent white, but now they're
[1:53:36] Speaker 10: okay for the district to be forty five percent black.
[1:53:40] Speaker 12: That's how this works.
[1:53:43] Speaker 10: And those are not dumb people on the Supreme Court.
[1:53:47] Speaker 10: And I knew Clans Thomas before he became a justice
[1:53:50] Speaker 10: on the Supreme Court. And when I say I knew him,
[1:53:54] Speaker 10: not just my name in the newspapers. I knew him
[1:53:59] Speaker 10: sat down in the same room do they have, many
[1:54:01] Speaker 10: many times on the same programs with him that he
[1:54:05] Speaker 10: was running EEOC and before that he was at the
[1:54:08] Speaker 10: in the Shipwright Division, that Department of Education.
[1:54:12] Speaker 16: I know him, And so.
[1:54:16] Speaker 10: I said to people all the time, I know, I
[1:54:20] Speaker 10: don't speak on these kinds of things unless I know
[1:54:22] Speaker 10: what I'm talking about.
[1:54:24] Speaker 12: And I know Clans Thomas.
[1:54:31] Speaker 8: One of the things that I have been saying. I
[1:54:34] Speaker 8: was in Montgomery on Saturday. We broadcast that National Day
[1:54:39] Speaker 8: of Action that that's that's going to kick off Freedom
[1:54:42] Speaker 8: Summer as well as Freedom Fall twenty twenty six, is
[1:54:46] Speaker 8: that the response from African Americans has to be a
[1:54:51] Speaker 8: massive turnout akin to what we saw after nineteen sixty
[1:54:56] Speaker 8: five Voter Rights Act. That we cannot can continue to
[1:55:01] Speaker 8: have black turnout of forty eight fifty two, fifty fifty seven,
[1:55:07] Speaker 8: sixty percent we saw, and Chief Justice Roberts of the
[1:55:13] Speaker 8: Extreme Court often cites even Samlely Lito cites the black
[1:55:17] Speaker 8: turnout in the election of Obama in two thousand and
[1:55:20] Speaker 8: eight twenty twelve. And what I keep saying to black
[1:55:24] Speaker 8: folks is our minimum number has to be seventy percent
[1:55:30] Speaker 8: of eligible Black voters. We have to have that type
[1:55:33] Speaker 8: of massive turnout to beat back this anti black agenda
[1:55:38] Speaker 8: at Republicans represent on the state, on the state level
[1:55:42] Speaker 8: as well as on the national level.
[1:55:45] Speaker 10: Well, you know, I agree with you there except that
[1:55:48] Speaker 10: the question I had, what's wrong with that thirty percent?
[1:55:53] Speaker 10: You know, I shall never forget uh. When Washington, the
[1:56:00] Speaker 10: first African American.
[1:56:04] Speaker 12: Mayor of.
[1:56:08] Speaker 10: Chicago, Harold Washington, I remember in that election there was
[1:56:15] Speaker 10: a precinct in Chicago.
[1:56:16] Speaker 12: I mean, the black community was so up for getting
[1:56:20] Speaker 12: rid of the.
[1:56:21] Speaker 10: Daily machine and the prospect of the electing and African
[1:56:26] Speaker 10: American mayor.
[1:56:27] Speaker 12: They got so up.
[1:56:29] Speaker 10: In one particular precinct, about three o'clock in the afternoon,
[1:56:34] Speaker 10: one hundred percent of the people, everybody that was registered
[1:56:37] Speaker 10: in that precinct had voted. Nobody was left to vote.
[1:56:43] Speaker 10: And this is a true story.
[1:56:44] Speaker 12: Now you know. I wasn't there, but I read it.
[1:56:47] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[1:56:48] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:56:48] Speaker 8: In fact, in an election of Harold Washington, the black
[1:56:52] Speaker 8: voter turnout total was eighty five percent of all eligible voters.
[1:57:01] Speaker 12: You're making my point.
[1:57:02] Speaker 10: In this particular precinct, the precinct worker says, wait a minute,
[1:57:06] Speaker 10: everybody has voted.
[1:57:08] Speaker 12: They called down to the headiquarters and can't we go home?
[1:57:11] Speaker 16: This is no.
[1:57:11] Speaker 10: You got to stay there because the law says the
[1:57:14] Speaker 10: Poland place must be open until a certain hour in
[1:57:18] Speaker 10: the afternoon. So you got to keep it up with
[1:57:20] Speaker 10: me so that two of their thumbs until that hour arrived.
[1:57:25] Speaker 10: The point I'm making is here, thirty percent to me
[1:57:30] Speaker 10: not voted, is still too many people not voting. Why
[1:57:38] Speaker 10: should you take a pass?
[1:57:40] Speaker 14: And let me tell you the impact of that.
[1:57:42] Speaker 12: I think you so.
[1:57:44] Speaker 10: Like you are in most cases because I can remember
[1:57:48] Speaker 10: one decision you made which it will haunt you for
[1:57:52] Speaker 10: the rest of your life.
[1:57:54] Speaker 8: But don't hey, don't hey, don't see, don't start, don't start,
[1:57:58] Speaker 8: and let you group you in don't Okay.
[1:58:02] Speaker 12: But you get this right often and you're right on
[1:58:07] Speaker 12: the money here.
[1:58:10] Speaker 10: The fact of the matter is, if you remember in
[1:58:12] Speaker 10: nineteen ninety four, when Nuke Gentes took over, they can't
[1:58:18] Speaker 10: speak of the House.
[1:58:20] Speaker 12: His contract on America.
[1:58:24] Speaker 10: He unceremoniously kicked out of the speakership because he made
[1:58:30] Speaker 10: a statement I will never forget, and the black voters
[1:58:35] Speaker 10: all over this country made him.
[1:58:38] Speaker 12: Pay for that statement.
[1:58:39] Speaker 10: I don't think most black people realize how And fine
[1:58:44] Speaker 10: Nuke Giddris got kicked out of the speakership. They can
[1:58:48] Speaker 10: dress it up in there where they want to. Well,
[1:58:50] Speaker 10: when nuke gender started making decisions like this fine House
[1:58:54] Speaker 10: is making, and when people called him on that, nuke
[1:58:57] Speaker 10: Gendri said something I want to remind the people today.
[1:59:01] Speaker 10: He said, it's okay because our people will vote and
[1:59:08] Speaker 10: their people won't. They will not turn out the vote.
[1:59:12] Speaker 10: That's what he said. And quenby turn out the vote,
[1:59:18] Speaker 10: and they lost votes in the House of representatives rather
[1:59:23] Speaker 10: than pick them up. In that off y election, the
[1:59:28] Speaker 10: leadership and the Republican Party kick new Interest out of
[1:59:31] Speaker 10: the speakership.
[1:59:33] Speaker 12: Go back and look at it. That's what happened, and the.
[1:59:37] Speaker 10: Same thing that happened in this off yr election. If
[1:59:42] Speaker 10: that you've given an excuse to they turn out too.
[1:59:49] Speaker 8: Well. I continue to say that we are that that
[1:59:53] Speaker 8: today's Republican Party is an existential threat to Black America.
[1:59:58] Speaker 8: And I make it clear, I've never self identified as
[2:00:02] Speaker 8: a Republican, as a Democrat, as an independent. I'm black,
[2:00:06] Speaker 8: and my deal is when I look at the issues,
[2:00:09] Speaker 8: when I look at who wants to freeze black people
[2:00:12] Speaker 8: out of contracts, who wants to cut access to food,
[2:00:18] Speaker 8: who wants to cut access to pel grants, who are
[2:00:22] Speaker 8: making cuts to HBCUs, who are attacking civil rights and
[2:00:27] Speaker 8: voting rights. It's very clear now. While that's being said,
[2:00:32] Speaker 8: Democrats also had some work to do because there were
[2:00:34] Speaker 8: too many Democrats who were complacent when we were talking
[2:00:37] Speaker 8: about the John Lewis Voting Rights Act. Too many people said, hey,
[2:00:42] Speaker 8: don't pressure Biden, don't pressure Mansion, don't pressure the cinema,
[2:00:47] Speaker 8: and folks did not go hardcore and so this is
[2:00:50] Speaker 8: about us demanding what should happen to our agenda. But absolutely,
[2:00:56] Speaker 8: when I look at Product twenty twenty five, there's absolutely
[2:00:59] Speaker 8: nothing in that report that is positive for black people.
[2:01:03] Speaker 8: And so black folks had better wake up. And the
[2:01:06] Speaker 8: main thing is this here, and I say this here,
[2:01:08] Speaker 8: and I've there have been people I forgot. There's some
[2:01:13] Speaker 8: white woman who they're touting who should leave the Democratic DNC.
[2:01:17] Speaker 8: She's all about the name of I forgot her name.
[2:01:20] Speaker 8: She's all about getting rid of folks like you and
[2:01:23] Speaker 8: others saying y'all are too old. And I've went after
[2:01:27] Speaker 8: her on social media. And what I've said is, Okay,
[2:01:31] Speaker 8: eighteen thirty nine year olds, millennials, Gen Z. You there
[2:01:35] Speaker 8: are more of you than baby boomers in Gen X.
[2:01:37] Speaker 8: But we just saw in Georgia nine percent of a
[2:01:41] Speaker 8: turnout in Georgia in the primary. We're eighteen thirty nine,
[2:01:45] Speaker 8: fifty five percent of those who voted fifty sixty five
[2:01:48] Speaker 8: plus in the next group fifty sixty four. And so
[2:01:51] Speaker 8: this generation millennials in Gen Z are going to have
[2:01:55] Speaker 8: to not just complain on social media, not just talk
[2:01:58] Speaker 8: about these things. They are going to have to rise
[2:02:01] Speaker 8: up and be as aggressive as possible in maxic going
[2:02:05] Speaker 8: to the polls, and you can't complain about folks being
[2:02:08] Speaker 8: of being older who are in politicians. If you're not
[2:02:11] Speaker 8: turning out at the polls and voting.
[2:02:14] Speaker 12: Well, thank you so much for that. I'm glad to
[2:02:18] Speaker 12: see that you are.
[2:02:21] Speaker 10: Paying close attention to that, because I've been sending to
[2:02:24] Speaker 10: people all the time, be careful about all of this.
[2:02:28] Speaker 10: You too old to be here, You're too old to
[2:02:31] Speaker 10: be there, so you're not old enough to vote. Come
[2:02:37] Speaker 10: on twenty five and thirty year olds to say us
[2:02:44] Speaker 10: seventy five and eighty years or too old the whole office. Well,
[2:02:49] Speaker 10: we're the ones that's show enough to vote and you're
[2:02:53] Speaker 10: not show enough to vote. If when you get out
[2:02:56] Speaker 10: of and participate and up at.
[2:03:00] Speaker 11: The polls, those of us.
[2:03:04] Speaker 10: Who are older will be much more comfortable with your criticisms.
[2:03:13] Speaker 10: I'm to take criticism too well from people who tell
[2:03:17] Speaker 10: me they measure their support by how many hits they
[2:03:21] Speaker 10: get on social media. I asked the question all the time,
[2:03:26] Speaker 10: are those people following you or are they trolling you
[2:03:32] Speaker 10: so you can't measure that? Are you more interested in
[2:03:35] Speaker 10: getting a headlined or do you want to make some headweight.
[2:03:41] Speaker 10: These are the things that we've got again serious about
[2:03:45] Speaker 10: because I'm telling you, these people are not playing. When
[2:03:50] Speaker 10: you look at what these southern states did within hours
[2:03:54] Speaker 10: of that decision, Florida move.
[2:03:58] Speaker 12: They didn't wait until the next day.
[2:04:01] Speaker 10: They were just waiting on the decision to come down,
[2:04:04] Speaker 10: and the same day the decision came down, then moved to.
[2:04:08] Speaker 12: Start this meddling stuff.
[2:04:11] Speaker 10: And if you think they're playing, why did the governors
[2:04:14] Speaker 10: South care how to change his mind when he said
[2:04:19] Speaker 10: he was not going to call a special session and
[2:04:24] Speaker 10: within ours of the House or the Senate, the state
[2:04:29] Speaker 10: center saying we are not going to redraw these districts.
[2:04:35] Speaker 10: Now within ours of that, the government seems to have
[2:04:40] Speaker 10: changed his mind. Why, because these people are not playing
[2:04:46] Speaker 10: and we'd better stop foother and around, because our children
[2:04:51] Speaker 10: and our grandchildren are going to find themselves living in
[2:04:55] Speaker 10: the same existence that our.
[2:04:57] Speaker 12: Parents and grandparents lived.
[2:05:00] Speaker 10: And if you think that's not possible, why is there
[2:05:05] Speaker 10: ninety five years between number eight in South Carolina and
[2:05:10] Speaker 10: us through the number nine? Because Supreme Court was not
[2:05:14] Speaker 10: fooling around and we were not allowed to participate back then.
[2:05:20] Speaker 10: Now you know, I always said that history as a
[2:05:24] Speaker 10: way of repeating itself. But I also followed up by saying,
[2:05:29] Speaker 10: the results do not have to be the same, and
[2:05:33] Speaker 10: so we are repeated the history that took place after
[2:05:40] Speaker 10: the Civil War, after reconstruction, or we gonna sit around
[2:05:48] Speaker 10: and let the results be the same, or or we're
[2:05:52] Speaker 10: gonna use the benefit of that education our parents and
[2:05:57] Speaker 10: grandparents tall moderate to allow us to get Are we
[2:06:05] Speaker 10: gonna use that to fight back? Oh, we're gonna just
[2:06:10] Speaker 10: shit around and play around with tweeting and whatever else
[2:06:15] Speaker 10: we may do with these devices and not show up
[2:06:19] Speaker 10: at the polls.
[2:06:21] Speaker 12: That number you just gave on the percentage of young people,
[2:06:26] Speaker 12: I forgot what the age range for us now, but.
[2:06:31] Speaker 4: That's it was.
[2:06:32] Speaker 8: It was eighteen to thirty nine. Eighteen to thirty nine
[2:06:35] Speaker 8: represented nine percent of the total turnout. And when you
[2:06:40] Speaker 8: look at any exit pole in this country, it's gonna
[2:06:44] Speaker 8: look the exact same way. And that is the people
[2:06:46] Speaker 8: that vote the most are sixty five plus, the second
[2:06:50] Speaker 8: group fifty to sixty four, the next group forty to
[2:06:54] Speaker 8: forty nine, and the lowest group is the largest group.
[2:06:58] Speaker 8: The lowest voting turnout group is the largest group by demographic.
[2:07:02] Speaker 8: That's eighteen or thirty nine, and that's millennials in gen
[2:07:06] Speaker 8: Z in jen Alpha. They're born in twenty ten. Their
[2:07:10] Speaker 8: first election is going to be twenty twenty eight, and
[2:07:13] Speaker 8: hopefully we see them turn out in numbers. But what
[2:07:16] Speaker 8: I keep saying that generation is going to have to
[2:07:20] Speaker 8: accept the mantle and the call to step up. I
[2:07:24] Speaker 8: see these people saying, oh, y'all shouldn't be asking players
[2:07:29] Speaker 8: not to go to SEC schools. I got to remind
[2:07:31] Speaker 8: them that civil rights workers were also eighteen and nineteen
[2:07:36] Speaker 8: and twenty. Many of them dropped out of college. A
[2:07:39] Speaker 8: lot of them were kicked out of college because they
[2:07:42] Speaker 8: chose to join the movement. So this idea that you're
[2:07:45] Speaker 8: too young to get involved, I can't accept when that's
[2:07:48] Speaker 8: why we had a black freedom move Well, you.
[2:07:52] Speaker 12: Exactly right about that. John Luis and I met as
[2:07:55] Speaker 12: nineteen year old college students. He is down there in
[2:07:58] Speaker 12: Nashville House in Ninburg.
[2:08:00] Speaker 10: South Carolina. We met on the campus at Morehouse College
[2:08:03] Speaker 10: in October nineteen sixty. Both of us were nineteen years old,
[2:08:09] Speaker 10: and I had.
[2:08:10] Speaker 12: Already spent some time in jail when I got there.
[2:08:16] Speaker 19: And so.
[2:08:18] Speaker 10: That's why I just, you know, I'm listen and I
[2:08:21] Speaker 10: do what I can. I couldn't get down to Summer
[2:08:26] Speaker 10: on last Saturday. I explained to the people who were
[2:08:31] Speaker 10: hosted it that I had my fellowship that I've been
[2:08:36] Speaker 10: doing for eleven years now, forty to fifty young people
[2:08:41] Speaker 10: that meet quarterly in South Carolina, teaching them about South
[2:08:45] Speaker 10: cal politics, about South Carolina's history, and I meet with
[2:08:49] Speaker 10: them quarterly, and last Saturday was my meeting date with them,
[2:08:55] Speaker 10: And so that's why I didn't show up down in
[2:09:00] Speaker 10: Summer and Montgomery.
[2:09:03] Speaker 12: That's what we've got to do. You've got to recognize
[2:09:08] Speaker 12: that young people.
[2:09:10] Speaker 10: Change things in the sixties, and young people can change
[2:09:16] Speaker 10: things now. But you aren't going to do it if
[2:09:21] Speaker 10: you want to vote nine percent eighteen to thirty nine
[2:09:27] Speaker 10: on the nine percent of the vote or there nine
[2:09:31] Speaker 10: percent of them voted. I don't know what that is,
[2:09:35] Speaker 10: but that that's that's the stuff of which apartheid has made.
[2:09:45] Speaker 8: Absolutely And at the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, there's
[2:09:49] Speaker 8: a sign that says, I never forget it. It says
[2:09:51] Speaker 8: all I want for my eighteenth birthday is a voter
[2:09:54] Speaker 8: registration card. That has to be the mentality of this generation.
[2:09:59] Speaker 8: Cars and Clyber. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
[2:10:01] Speaker 12: Thank you so much for having me.
[2:10:04] Speaker 8: All right, folks have a black stud network headlines a
[2:10:06] Speaker 8: pretty noble.
[2:10:08] Speaker 14: The Trump administration is losing another member.
[2:10:11] Speaker 15: Tulca Gabbert told President Donald Trump of her decision to
[2:10:14] Speaker 15: resign from her role as Director of National Intelligence during
[2:10:17] Speaker 15: an Oval Office meeting today.
[2:10:19] Speaker 14: Gabert says she's stepping away.
[2:10:21] Speaker 15: From the administration to support her husband, Abraham Williams, who's
[2:10:25] Speaker 15: battling what she described as an extremely rare form of
[2:10:28] Speaker 15: bone cancer. Her departure is the fourth by a cabinet
[2:10:31] Speaker 15: during Trump's second term. There have been grumblings that Gabert
[2:10:35] Speaker 15: would split with Trump after the president decided to strike Iran. Gabert,
[2:10:40] Speaker 15: a veteran and a former Democratic congresswoman from Hawaii, is
[2:10:43] Speaker 15: known for her opposition to foreign wars. This stance has
[2:10:47] Speaker 15: put her in a difficult position, particularly since the US
[2:10:50] Speaker 15: joined Israel in launching attacks on Iran February twenty eighth.
[2:10:54] Speaker 15: Her final day in the position is expected to be
[2:10:56] Speaker 15: June thirtyeth one year old black girl has died after
[2:11:01] Speaker 15: police reported that she was tortured to death by three
[2:11:04] Speaker 15: generations of white women in the Long Island home the
[2:11:07] Speaker 15: Sulfoix County District Attorney's office, and died at fifty year
[2:11:11] Speaker 15: old Kelly Emily Kelly, her seventy five year old mother,
[2:11:14] Speaker 15: Barbara Renner, and her twenty four year old daughter Alyssa
[2:11:17] Speaker 15: Seymour with the death of Jordan Duncan. According to reports,
[2:11:20] Speaker 15: Jordan was placed in the care of her father's fiance
[2:11:23] Speaker 15: in December of twenty twenty four. The Fionta gained full
[2:11:26] Speaker 15: custody and guardianship in April of twenty twenty five while
[2:11:30] Speaker 15: the father was incarcerated. Police state that Jordan was terrorized
[2:11:34] Speaker 15: by all three women in the home between January and
[2:11:37] Speaker 15: June of twenty twenty five, during which time she missed
[2:11:40] Speaker 15: forty days of school. In late December of twenty twenty five,
[2:11:43] Speaker 15: Kelly Calledinland one to report that Jordan was in cardiac arrest.
[2:11:47] Speaker 15: When the paramedics arrived, the child was unconscious, and she
[2:11:50] Speaker 15: later died at the hospital. Prosecutors indicated that the autopsy
[2:11:54] Speaker 15: found Jordan had suffered ninety stab wounds, and her cause
[2:11:57] Speaker 15: of death was determined to be untreated in affection from
[2:12:00] Speaker 15: these wounds. Kelly's attorney claims that the wounds may have
[2:12:03] Speaker 15: been self inflicted. Kelly was indicted for murder, reckless endangerment,
[2:12:08] Speaker 15: unlawful imprisonment, and endangering the welfare of a child, and
[2:12:12] Speaker 15: Kelly's mother was indicted for manslaughter, while Kelly's daughter was
[2:12:15] Speaker 15: indicted for unlawful imprisonment.
[2:12:19] Speaker 14: An up and coming basketball star from Illinois had.
[2:12:21] Speaker 15: His life tragically cut short while riding in an Uber.
[2:12:24] Speaker 15: Eighteen year old Damarian Johnson along with his Uber driver,
[2:12:27] Speaker 15: Janson Show, were shot and killed on Chicago's Garfield Park neighborhood.
[2:12:31] Speaker 15: The incident occurred around eight thirty pm May seventh, when
[2:12:35] Speaker 15: the GRAYSUV pulled alongside their vehicle and an documented side
[2:12:39] Speaker 15: opened fire.
[2:12:41] Speaker 14: Johnson was a talented.
[2:12:42] Speaker 15: High school basketball player who was on his way home
[2:12:44] Speaker 15: from the gym and just days away from committing to
[2:12:47] Speaker 15: a college on the full right scholarship. Choe, on the
[2:12:49] Speaker 15: other hand, was a financial analyst who drove for Uber
[2:12:53] Speaker 15: just to earn extra money. Devastated friends and families spoke
[2:12:56] Speaker 15: about Johnson's positive impact and the heart printing laws that
[2:13:00] Speaker 15: has left a significant.
[2:13:01] Speaker 14: Void in the lives of the people who knew him.
[2:13:04] Speaker 15: According to the Chicago Police Department, exclusive surveillance footage captured
[2:13:08] Speaker 15: the drive through shooting, and although a person of interest
[2:13:13] Speaker 15: was questioned, they were released without charges. No arrest has
[2:13:17] Speaker 15: been made, and police are offering a reward for information
[2:13:19] Speaker 15: that leads to an arrest in this case. A federal
[2:13:24] Speaker 15: appeals court has dismissed a lawsuit filed by a former
[2:13:27] Speaker 15: Colorado corrections officer who claimed that mandatory workplace diversity training
[2:13:32] Speaker 15: created a hostile work environment for white employees.
[2:13:35] Speaker 16: Now.
[2:13:35] Speaker 15: The case Young First Colorado Department of Corrections, involved former
[2:13:39] Speaker 15: Corrections officer Joshua Young, who said that the department's equity,
[2:13:42] Speaker 15: diversity and inclusion training unfairly targeted white individuals and made
[2:13:48] Speaker 15: him fearful of being accused of racism. Young claimed that
[2:13:52] Speaker 15: the training included discussions on topics such as white supremacy,
[2:13:55] Speaker 15: cultural appropriation, and racial power dynamics, which he believed discriminated
[2:14:00] Speaker 15: against white employees. He also contended that the mandatory training
[2:14:04] Speaker 15: caused him to hesitate in carrying out certain job responsibilities,
[2:14:08] Speaker 15: including interactions with incarcerated individuals and prison visitors. However, the
[2:14:13] Speaker 15: Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the lower court's dismissal
[2:14:16] Speaker 15: of the case.
[2:14:17] Speaker 14: Concluding that a single workplace training program does not meet
[2:14:21] Speaker 14: the high legal.
[2:14:21] Speaker 15: Standard required to establish a hostile work environment under federal law.
[2:14:27] Speaker 15: George Clinton, the legendary performer and founder of the Parliament Funkadelic,
[2:14:32] Speaker 15: is suing Universal Music Group, accusing the company of withholding
[2:14:35] Speaker 15: more than one million dollars in unpaid royalties. The lawsuit
[2:14:39] Speaker 15: claims UMG has frozen payment of Clinton's royalties for more
[2:14:43] Speaker 15: than three years over a separate legal dispute tied to
[2:14:46] Speaker 15: the estate of former Parliament keyboardists Bernie World. World's estate
[2:14:51] Speaker 15: had claimed that Clinton had not properly paid him, the keyboardist,
[2:14:55] Speaker 15: for some of their collaborations, but in the new court filings,
[2:14:58] Speaker 15: Clinton says that you and d G has frozen royalty
[2:15:01] Speaker 15: payments for projects unconnected to collaborations with World.
[2:15:05] Speaker 14: According to the court.
[2:15:06] Speaker 15: Filings, Clinton is owed nearly one million dollars in Parliament royalties,
[2:15:10] Speaker 15: plus additional money connected to other projects, including work with
[2:15:13] Speaker 15: the Red Hot Chili Preppers. Clinton is seeking damages, release
[2:15:17] Speaker 15: of the royalties, and a full accounting from UMG.
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[2:15:36] Speaker 8: of fifty nine. He been battling cancer. Of course, he
[2:15:39] Speaker 8: is known for his song It Takes Two as well
[2:15:43] Speaker 8: as Joy and Pain. Of course, one of the legends
[2:15:47] Speaker 8: in the game, and so many people have been sharing
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[2:19:53] Speaker 8: YouTube channel that's first and foremost. Or you can of
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[2:20:02] Speaker 8: we look forward to that and so there you go.
[2:20:05] Speaker 8: So get all of that, Hey, don't forget do me
[2:20:08] Speaker 8: a favor this weekend. Remember our veterans. It is Memorial
[2:20:13] Speaker 8: Day that's taking place on Monday. A lot of our
[2:20:17] Speaker 8: folks of course, paid the ultimate sacrifice for this country,
[2:20:21] Speaker 8: and so that's taking place. I'm gonna be in Houston
[2:20:23] Speaker 8: this weekend, headed to Hetown. The last of my nieces
[2:20:28] Speaker 8: and nephews graduates from high school. That's right, my nephew, Christopher,
[2:20:32] Speaker 8: my brother's son, my little man, he is graduating from
[2:20:36] Speaker 8: High School on excuse me high school on Sunday, so
[2:20:41] Speaker 8: I will be in htown. That was a shot when
[2:20:44] Speaker 8: we were at the Houston Texas game on the sideline,
[2:20:47] Speaker 8: and so looking forward to celebrating his graduation that's taken
[2:20:55] Speaker 8: place on Sundays. So this is probably my set. That's
[2:20:59] Speaker 8: probably my second favorite photo of Chris. This is probably
[2:21:03] Speaker 8: my favorite one. I had this. You know, y'all know,
[2:21:06] Speaker 8: I got all these old funny little hats, and so
[2:21:08] Speaker 8: I had this court gesture of Houston Texans hat and
[2:21:12] Speaker 8: Chris decided he wanted to take my hat. So I
[2:21:16] Speaker 8: had to buy a second one. And so we were
[2:21:18] Speaker 8: traveling to the game and we were in the back
[2:21:21] Speaker 8: seat and he was in the back seat, and I
[2:21:23] Speaker 8: took this photo of my little man.
[2:21:24] Speaker 11: So he turns.
[2:21:26] Speaker 8: He turns eighteen years old, first of all in graduations
[2:21:29] Speaker 8: on Sunday. So looking forward to it all, y'all. That's
[2:21:32] Speaker 8: it for us. I will see y'all Tuesday right here.
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