# Nolan Wells Autopsy Findings. Warnock on Affordable Housing. Kadir Skinner Bodycam Contradicts Cops

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 23 Jul 2026, 2 h 26 min.

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7.22.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Nolan Wells Autopsy Findings. Warnock on Affordable Housing. Kadir Skinner Bodycam Contradicts Cops. Abbott Attacks Black Voters. _ Nolan Wells' independent autopsy preliminary findings pose new questions about what happened to him. We'll share what Civil Rights Attorney Ben Crump calls "significant findings." A millennial and minority-owned research firm is rolling out new polling and research about Black voters' opinions on voting rights following the Callais v. Louisiana decision and heading into the midterm elections. HIT Strategies' president will explain how they plan to get Black folks to the polls. Delaware officials have released body camera footage that seems to contradict the initial police report related to the fatal shooting of 19-year-old Kadir Skinner. The family attorney will walk us through the videos and why the cops' story doesn't add up. Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott has a lot to say about James Talarico and Black Voters. We'll break down why Abbott doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. And I talked to Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock about voting rights and the ROAD to Housing Act, which should increase affordable housing and ease the pathway to homeownership. Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[10:39] Speaker 2: Where said your last twenty second twenty twenty six Coming
[10:41] Speaker 2: up on rolland Mark on Crystal streaming live on the
[10:43] Speaker 2: Black Stuard Network. The family of Nolan Well has releases
[10:48] Speaker 2: their indefinite autops of results today at the NAACITY convention
[10:51] Speaker 2: in Chicago.
[10:52] Speaker 8: Will tell you what was said.
[10:55] Speaker 2: Also, Center Rappio Warnock talks about white supremacy, UH, Trump
[11:01] Speaker 2: and the Housing Bill, as well as what Democrats need
[11:03] Speaker 2: to do UH to reach black voters. We'll also talk
[11:07] Speaker 2: with a research firm that talks about how African Americans
[11:11] Speaker 2: feel about the issue of voting in the wake of
[11:14] Speaker 2: the Louisiana Versuskolay decision.
[11:16] Speaker 3: We'll talk about the case.
[11:17] Speaker 2: But black man's shot in killed in Delaware with talk
[11:20] Speaker 2: of the family attorney and also Texas Governor of Greg
[11:23] Speaker 2: Abbot had something to say about UH Texas State Representative
[11:26] Speaker 2: James tel Rico not understanding black voters. I'm gonna tell
[11:32] Speaker 2: you how Greg Abbot ain't got a damn plue about
[11:35] Speaker 2: black voters in Texas.
[11:37] Speaker 10: He's trying to.
[11:37] Speaker 2: Bring the phone on rolling unfilter. I'm glad to network.
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[12:36] Speaker 10: UH.
[12:37] Speaker 2: US Senat Raphael Warnock of Georgia is one of four
[12:39] Speaker 2: Democratic United States Senators who are African American in the Senate.
[12:44] Speaker 2: There is one Republican UH and we chanted today about
[12:47] Speaker 2: a number of issues, including white supremacy when it's Trump administration.
[12:52] Speaker 2: We talked about, of course, what Democrats you do to
[12:55] Speaker 2: reach black voters and also housing bille Here is our
[13:00] Speaker 2: conversation Sarah Warnock, Glad to have you here. I have
[13:06] Speaker 2: been doing something really since the inauguration. I've been framing
[13:10] Speaker 2: this thing that we we're seeing right now from trumpet
[13:13] Speaker 2: MAGA is an effort to completely defund Black America. And
[13:17] Speaker 2: I've been saying right now, it's warm Black America. If
[13:19] Speaker 2: you look at everything. You look at the tax on DEI,
[13:21] Speaker 2: the pulling of grants, when you look at the federal layoffs,
[13:26] Speaker 2: when you look at the FCC, look at all these things,
[13:31] Speaker 2: it is as black jerrymandering, civil rights pullback. It is
[13:35] Speaker 2: as if there's a massive bullseye on the backs of
[13:39] Speaker 2: Black America. And I've been trying to get our people
[13:42] Speaker 2: to understand that we cannot set elections out because they
[13:46] Speaker 2: want to completely eradicate the entire civil rights, economic rights,
[13:50] Speaker 2: social justice infrastructure that has been not just built over
[13:55] Speaker 2: the last sixty years, but even going back to the
[13:57] Speaker 2: Reconstruction amendments.
[14:00] Speaker 8: Oh.
[14:00] Speaker 18: Absolutely, there is no question that the Trump advance administration
[14:06] Speaker 18: is a white supremacist regime that is trying to foist
[14:11] Speaker 18: its dark and divisive vision of our country onto the
[14:18] Speaker 18: American experiment. Just as we celebrate, observe the two hundred
[14:23] Speaker 18: and fiftieth anniversary of this grand experiment that its certainly had,
[14:28] Speaker 18: has had, and does continue to have its imperfections. Black
[14:33] Speaker 18: people have been at the center of the work of
[14:36] Speaker 18: trying to transform our country, make a country as good
[14:41] Speaker 18: as its promise, one that lives up to the ideals
[14:45] Speaker 18: in the Charter documents in our nation. And there's no
[14:49] Speaker 18: question that the Trump administration, whether we're talking about the
[14:54] Speaker 18: attacks on the idea, that you would turn tosity, equity,
[15:01] Speaker 18: inclusion into cuss words, often at the behest of religious people.
[15:07] Speaker 18: I've been saying from pulpits, you know, in my other
[15:10] Speaker 18: day job, equities in the Bible, the idea of inclusion
[15:15] Speaker 18: and diversion and diversity. These are moral concepts and we
[15:21] Speaker 18: have to hold this administration accountable. But we also have
[15:25] Speaker 18: to hold others, including pastors and churches, who are loud
[15:32] Speaker 18: supporters of this some of the meanest voices in our
[15:35] Speaker 18: country right now. The folks most likely to blame immigrants,
[15:39] Speaker 18: blame poor people are people who read from the book,
[15:43] Speaker 18: and so I want to challenge them on the basis
[15:47] Speaker 18: of the book. I'm a Matthew twenty five Christian, and
[15:50] Speaker 18: as much as you've done it unto the least of these.
[15:53] Speaker 18: You've done it also under me, and I think we've
[15:56] Speaker 18: got to hold them accountable. But come this November, we
[15:58] Speaker 18: got to hold them accountable at the polls people.
[16:01] Speaker 2: This is also why it's also why I think where
[16:04] Speaker 2: we are we have to be in this and I
[16:07] Speaker 2: have been just Bishop William Barber and I our brother,
[16:09] Speaker 2: we've been talking about this here. We have to have
[16:11] Speaker 2: a micro to macro strategy, but also we have to
[16:13] Speaker 2: be walking people through this. Those of us who live
[16:16] Speaker 2: and breathing stuff every day just simply can't assume that
[16:18] Speaker 2: people know. There has to be a connecting of the dots.
[16:21] Speaker 2: And so you have to connect the dots of DOGE
[16:24] Speaker 2: layoffs with the dramatic rise in black unemployment because we
[16:28] Speaker 2: over index in federal government. You have to connect the
[16:31] Speaker 2: dots of the attacks against DEI on how every black
[16:34] Speaker 2: nonprofit has been impacted, the slashing of federal grants impacts
[16:39] Speaker 2: in goos. It's impacting black organizations and so all look
[16:45] Speaker 2: last year, Biden Harris, black owned business has got ten
[16:47] Speaker 2: billion dollars in federal contracts. Only two percent. That's not
[16:50] Speaker 2: down to one point two percent. And so when you
[16:53] Speaker 2: lose those you know, billions of dollars in federal contracts.
[16:56] Speaker 2: Guess what those are black owned businesses. They have employees,
[16:59] Speaker 2: they have families, they have kids in schools, and so
[17:03] Speaker 2: this thing is just impacting in all areas. And so
[17:07] Speaker 2: we're just in a moment where I just think that
[17:09] Speaker 2: people really need to understand that what they are trying
[17:14] Speaker 2: to lock in is I'm very clear my book, White Fear,
[17:18] Speaker 2: White supremacist rules for the next fifty to one hundred years,
[17:22] Speaker 2: and folks have got to wake up and realize this
[17:25] Speaker 2: is not just about the next election. This is literally
[17:27] Speaker 2: about the next half century.
[17:31] Speaker 5: No.
[17:32] Speaker 8: Absolutely, they are playing and they've been playing the long game.
[17:37] Speaker 18: You know, we on our side have not focused on
[17:42] Speaker 18: these state legislatures, for example, the way that they have
[17:45] Speaker 18: over the last few decades, and as a result, we're
[17:49] Speaker 18: witnessing this rabid gerrymandering that's going on all across our country.
[17:55] Speaker 18: The Supreme Court with its recent Calaid decisions, poured fuel
[18:00] Speaker 18: on that fire. There are literally some nineteen seats that
[18:06] Speaker 18: are are endangered right now. In the Congressional Black Caucus,
[18:12] Speaker 18: they want the opposite of the Grand Covenant Eplurbus Unum
[18:17] Speaker 18: out of many one, and they are trying to shape
[18:21] Speaker 18: the nation in their cruel, narrow, racist, bigoted, dystopian image.
[18:29] Speaker 18: And the most powerful thing we have right now is
[18:32] Speaker 18: our voices. I want those who were saying in twenty
[18:36] Speaker 18: twenty four, what difference does it make to look around
[18:39] Speaker 18: and see what's happening and ask yourself, can you afford
[18:42] Speaker 18: to stay home come November?
[18:44] Speaker 8: I think not.
[18:47] Speaker 2: You said that if Democrats gang control of the House
[18:51] Speaker 2: and or the Senate, you want investigation of folks who
[18:54] Speaker 2: have been redrawing these maps. Don Trump said in January, hey,
[18:59] Speaker 2: y'all got to keep control of this of this thing,
[19:02] Speaker 2: because if not, they're going to impeach me. Speak of
[19:05] Speaker 2: the House, Mike Johnson said, hey, y'all, we better keep
[19:08] Speaker 2: control because y'all need me to protect you. They're scared
[19:11] Speaker 2: to death of investigations. And I've had people. I heard
[19:13] Speaker 2: people say, well, you know, Democrats should we should not
[19:16] Speaker 2: be packed practicing retribution. I've said, now, wait a minute,
[19:19] Speaker 2: corruption is corruption.
[19:20] Speaker 5: Uh.
[19:20] Speaker 2: And if Democrats gained control, they should be making it
[19:23] Speaker 2: perfectly clear that they're going to investigate potential wrongdoing.
[19:27] Speaker 6: Uh.
[19:27] Speaker 2: And clearly we know Donald Trump's DOJ is not going
[19:30] Speaker 2: to criminally prosecute. But what is happening. People just just
[19:34] Speaker 2: can't just get away with it.
[19:36] Speaker 5: Uh.
[19:36] Speaker 2: And and not just when it comes to Jared Mandering
[19:38] Speaker 2: as well, but even just the blatant corruption, the raping
[19:41] Speaker 2: and pillaging of the federal budget, with Trump earning billions
[19:45] Speaker 2: of dollars of hum and his family as well. I mean,
[19:47] Speaker 2: this is this is is mind boggling. What is going on.
[19:51] Speaker 2: And so this is also what's on the ballot in November.
[19:54] Speaker 2: Actual accountability from Congress.
[19:58] Speaker 18: Listen, if we win, when we win one or both
[20:01] Speaker 18: of these houses come November, there's no question that we
[20:06] Speaker 18: owe it to the American people. We owe it to
[20:08] Speaker 18: the people who sent us up here to hold folks accountable.
[20:12] Speaker 18: We have to hold accountable those in the administration who
[20:16] Speaker 18: are literally looting the government. They are looting and burning
[20:25] Speaker 18: our systems of accountability down and selling it for parts.
[20:31] Speaker 18: I don't know if Donald Trump was a billionaire or
[20:33] Speaker 18: not the first time he ran. There's some question about that,
[20:38] Speaker 18: but there's no question now, there's no He's wealthier than
[20:42] Speaker 18: he's ever been. He's enriching himself, he's enriching his sons,
[20:46] Speaker 18: his families, he ran saying that he was going to
[20:50] Speaker 18: do something about people's families, and apparently charity begins at
[20:54] Speaker 18: home because he has done an excellent job and enriching
[20:58] Speaker 18: his own family, but he's not focus on yours at all.
[21:02] Speaker 8: We have to hold him and his enablers and accountable.
[21:09] Speaker 18: And we have to hold partisan actors in the state
[21:13] Speaker 18: legislatures who have been cherrymandering black people's voices all across
[21:20] Speaker 18: the South with absolute abandon Racial jerry mandarin still is
[21:27] Speaker 18: elite illegal and even the Supreme Court had denied to
[21:30] Speaker 18: that even in their awful Kalay decision. It is it
[21:34] Speaker 18: is illegal to engage in racialize jerrymandering. And so if
[21:40] Speaker 18: we win the majority in the Senate, I intend to
[21:43] Speaker 18: drag these state legislators before Congress, hold them accountable, get
[21:48] Speaker 18: them on the record, ask them about public statements they've made,
[21:54] Speaker 18: other evidence that we can gather so that those who
[21:57] Speaker 18: are fighting these issues in court will have the data and.
[22:01] Speaker 8: The evidence that they need.
[22:03] Speaker 18: We can do that if we win one or both houses,
[22:07] Speaker 18: and then once we're back in power, there are some
[22:11] Speaker 18: real things that we need to do to save our democracy.
[22:15] Speaker 18: The strengthen and expand voting rights in our country.
[22:20] Speaker 2: This week, Democrats are meeting to decide who is going
[22:23] Speaker 2: to go first. I have made it perfectly clear that
[22:26] Speaker 2: I still believe that South Carolina should be the first
[22:29] Speaker 2: in the nation, all due respect to Nevada, Latino voters
[22:33] Speaker 2: in Iowa and New Hampshire, African Americans of the bedrock
[22:37] Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party. But the reason I believe the
[22:39] Speaker 2: South Carolina should go first is because the Democratic Party
[22:42] Speaker 2: is going to have to come to grips that if
[22:44] Speaker 2: you look at the twenty thirty census, what is projected
[22:46] Speaker 2: Blue states are going to lose twelve congressional district that's
[22:50] Speaker 2: twelve electoral College votes. Those votes are going south. They're
[22:53] Speaker 2: going to Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, Texas and other places.
[22:58] Speaker 2: And so the only Democrats cannot win in the future
[23:02] Speaker 2: if they do not win in the South, and that
[23:05] Speaker 2: means they are going to have to invest serious dollars
[23:08] Speaker 2: on the ground in South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana,
[23:18] Speaker 2: Texas if they want a future. And I think changing
[23:21] Speaker 2: it from South Carolina to me is a huge mistake.
[23:24] Speaker 2: Do you support South Carolina remaining of the first in
[23:27] Speaker 2: the nation for Democrats.
[23:28] Speaker 18: There's no question that the road to the presidency, the
[23:32] Speaker 18: road to the majority, is through the South. And as
[23:37] Speaker 18: a child of the South, I absolutely support that. I
[23:42] Speaker 18: resonate with what you're saying with respect to my neighboring
[23:46] Speaker 18: state of South Carolina. We debate on who has the
[23:50] Speaker 18: best peaches, but I support ain't.
[23:56] Speaker 2: No debata who's got the best barbecue met being tas.
[23:59] Speaker 2: Let's just be real clear. I'll talk about y'all can't
[24:03] Speaker 2: talk about bumping. But look, look here, here's the issue
[24:07] Speaker 2: we have in the Senate.
[24:08] Speaker 8: Roland.
[24:10] Speaker 9: Our our.
[24:13] Speaker 18: Hot watermark right now in terms of seats that Dems
[24:17] Speaker 18: can realistically win in the Senate is fifty two fifty two.
[24:22] Speaker 8: Think about that.
[24:23] Speaker 18: When when Barack Obama won election in two thousand and eight,
[24:26] Speaker 18: he had sixty Democratic senator sixty that is practically unimaginable.
[24:32] Speaker 18: Right now, we're going to have to expand our base
[24:36] Speaker 18: and a big part of that is the South, which
[24:38] Speaker 18: is one of the reasons why one of the races
[24:41] Speaker 18: that I've been trying to get people to pay attention
[24:43] Speaker 18: to is the race in Mississippi. We can win a
[24:47] Speaker 18: Senate seat in Mississippi. I'm not going to kid you
[24:49] Speaker 18: and pretend that it would be easy, but it wasn't
[24:52] Speaker 18: easy for me to win my seat in Georgia.
[24:55] Speaker 8: When folks started talking about.
[24:56] Speaker 2: It's not gonna be easy to win that seats there
[24:58] Speaker 2: and to start interrupew you got two Black Cannions and
[25:01] Speaker 2: one is running as an independent right now, Polly has
[25:03] Speaker 2: six percent. I mean, I'm sorry, that's that that that
[25:06] Speaker 2: you can't beat Cindy HoTT Smith with two Black Cannons
[25:09] Speaker 2: running with one as an independent, that's just and I
[25:12] Speaker 2: think I think that's just real.
[25:14] Speaker 18: I think that's a tactical issue that needs needs to
[25:18] Speaker 18: be addressed. But I'm very proud of the race that
[25:22] Speaker 18: Scott Cologne is running. He actually outraised the incumbenty uh
[25:27] Speaker 18: Sindy HoTT Smith in the first quarter. Mississippi is a
[25:31] Speaker 18: state where the media markets are are relatively cheap, certainly
[25:36] Speaker 18: very cheap as compared say to Texas. I support fullheartedly,
[25:41] Speaker 18: wholeheartedly what we're doing in Texas, but if we could
[25:44] Speaker 18: get a fraction of those resources UH in Mississippi, I
[25:49] Speaker 18: think it's important both for the short term. I do
[25:53] Speaker 18: believe that Scott Cologne can win. Mississippi has just the
[25:57] Speaker 18: kind of coalition that we had in Georgia, but he
[26:00] Speaker 18: but even more so Georgia's thirty one percent African American
[26:04] Speaker 18: Mississippi's thirty eight percent. We can build a multi racial
[26:08] Speaker 18: coalition in Mississippi to deliver that Senate seat. And in
[26:12] Speaker 18: the wake of what they're doing around as partisan jereed mandering,
[26:15] Speaker 18: I'd love to see us send Manny Thompson back, of course,
[26:18] Speaker 18: to the House and for good measure, pick up a
[26:23] Speaker 18: Senate seat.
[26:24] Speaker 8: In the meantime, a.
[26:25] Speaker 2: Couple of more questions, one of them deals with, Frankly, money,
[26:29] Speaker 2: are you and othermens of the CBC, are you telling
[26:33] Speaker 2: the DNC, the DSCC, the d Triple C, the Democrat
[26:37] Speaker 2: Government Association CENTI majority Pack, House majority Pack. Listen, y'all
[26:42] Speaker 2: got to stop this nonsense of the old way of running.
[26:45] Speaker 2: You're going to have to spend three to four more
[26:47] Speaker 2: time in investing in black people. You're going to spend
[26:51] Speaker 2: three to four more times on the ground because today's
[26:54] Speaker 2: black voters not of the voter. More black people are
[26:57] Speaker 2: not identifying as Democrat doesn't mean that they won't vote
[26:59] Speaker 2: demoic but the investment has to be there, and I
[27:04] Speaker 2: just keep saying to these folks, you're not You can't
[27:07] Speaker 2: go to the old model that of forty years ago,
[27:09] Speaker 2: thinking you're gonna pop into a few black churches, show
[27:12] Speaker 2: some black endorsements, uh, and then do some nolineal work. No,
[27:16] Speaker 2: you're gonna have to spend real money, real time investing
[27:20] Speaker 2: to turn out African Americans if they want to win.
[27:23] Speaker 2: Are y'all telling them that? And they are they listening?
[27:26] Speaker 18: The answer is yes, I'm telling them that. I'm saying
[27:30] Speaker 18: it all the all the time. And guess what is
[27:33] Speaker 18: you know, I got street credits to support it. I'm
[27:36] Speaker 18: not here by accident. I don't know that anybody, nobody
[27:40] Speaker 18: who spent more money on black media, on black radio,
[27:45] Speaker 18: in black newspapers than I did. During my campaign. I
[27:53] Speaker 18: had to upset what would people would normally do. I
[27:56] Speaker 18: had to shake shake the apple cart, make sure that
[28:00] Speaker 18: we were talking full time, in real time, in a
[28:04] Speaker 18: robust manner, to the most faithful part of the Democratic
[28:09] Speaker 18: multi racial coalition. Black people are at the base of
[28:13] Speaker 18: the party, especially black women, and so you move across
[28:17] Speaker 18: Georgia and you talk to folks and who own black
[28:22] Speaker 18: radio stations in these little rural towns, and you asked them,
[28:26] Speaker 18: what did the Walnut campaign do during my two races.
[28:31] Speaker 2: For the Senate?
[28:32] Speaker 18: And as a result of that, I'm sitting here twice
[28:35] Speaker 18: elected in the state of Georgia.
[28:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, so black God, they to be listened what you
[28:41] Speaker 2: did in of Georgia and what don Scott den because
[28:43] Speaker 2: speak of the House in Virginia. That's really the model
[28:46] Speaker 2: how you turn it out. They better listen. Last question
[28:48] Speaker 2: for you, bipartisan effort, huge numbers passing a housing bill.
[28:52] Speaker 2: Housing is a major crisis. Twice in Peach criminal convicted
[28:56] Speaker 2: Comment in Chief refused to sign the bill because he
[28:59] Speaker 2: threw a timper tan in that bill is actually helping people,
[29:02] Speaker 2: and we know for African Americans housing is critical, affordability
[29:06] Speaker 2: is critical. Talk about you know what you want to
[29:10] Speaker 2: see happen now that the bill will become law. Despite
[29:13] Speaker 2: the antics of the common in Chief, housing is one.
[29:19] Speaker 8: Of the most important issues we can be talking about.
[29:22] Speaker 8: And we have a major.
[29:24] Speaker 18: Housing affordability crisis in this country. Much of it is
[29:28] Speaker 18: on the supply side. There's just not enough housing and
[29:31] Speaker 18: a whole range of reasons for that. I've been working
[29:35] Speaker 18: on this issue since I came to the Senate. But
[29:37] Speaker 18: I'm proud that we were able to pass the Road
[29:41] Speaker 18: to Housing Bill, which in various ways addresses this affordability crisis.
[29:47] Speaker 18: It doesn't do everything, but it is a robust first start.
[29:51] Speaker 18: I'd like to do more once we're in power. But
[29:54] Speaker 18: in this bill, in this law, which this bill, which
[29:58] Speaker 18: became law despite Donald Trump's temper tandem. He wouldn't sign it,
[30:02] Speaker 18: but it became law anyway after ten days. I have
[30:07] Speaker 18: a bill, I have a provision in the law that finally,
[30:11] Speaker 18: finally addresses the outsize footprint of private equity in the
[30:18] Speaker 18: housing markets. And we're particularly seeing this in communities all
[30:22] Speaker 18: across Georgia. I think of huge swaths of land in
[30:25] Speaker 18: southwest Atlanta and all across the state that I represent.
[30:30] Speaker 18: One in four single family homes owned by private corporations
[30:35] Speaker 18: in Atlanta.
[30:36] Speaker 8: So you're trying to be a first time home buyer.
[30:38] Speaker 18: You're a young couple, you got married, you followed all
[30:41] Speaker 18: the rules, and you're starting a family. And when you
[30:44] Speaker 18: get ready to buy a house, you're not competing against
[30:46] Speaker 18: the person down the street. You're competing against some out
[30:49] Speaker 18: of state private equity corporation. When my provision finally does
[30:53] Speaker 18: something about this by putting a cap on how much
[30:58] Speaker 18: they could buy and beginning to address this outsize impact
[31:03] Speaker 18: of private equity, putting the squeeze on that. I've got
[31:07] Speaker 18: another provision, which is the only fair housing provision in
[31:10] Speaker 18: the bill, which deals with something and you know this
[31:13] Speaker 18: role in Black homeowners deal with us all the time.
[31:16] Speaker 18: Appraisal bias. There's a tax you pay just for being black,
[31:21] Speaker 18: trying to sell your house and what people say it's worth. Well,
[31:24] Speaker 18: I have a provision in the bill that has now
[31:27] Speaker 18: been passed in the law. If you get an appraisal
[31:30] Speaker 18: and you think there's something untoward there, for the first time,
[31:34] Speaker 18: you actually have some legal recourse and you can demand
[31:38] Speaker 18: an additional appraisal. These are the things that we were
[31:41] Speaker 18: able to do. Now there are other things in the
[31:44] Speaker 18: bill addressing this whole issue around NIMBI, the government red tape,
[31:50] Speaker 18: the zoning laws that make it difficult for us to
[31:53] Speaker 18: think outside the box about how to get housing done.
[31:56] Speaker 8: All of that is in this bipartisan piece of legislation.
[32:00] Speaker 18: It's going to take some pressure off of the housing market,
[32:02] Speaker 18: create more opportunity. But I look forward to the day
[32:07] Speaker 18: when we can get even more done.
[32:10] Speaker 2: Well, absolutely well, it's a lot of work to do.
[32:12] Speaker 2: And I'm telling people they've got to be a prize
[32:14] Speaker 2: on the issues, because again, if we don't see massive
[32:18] Speaker 2: change in November, it's going to be an ugly twenty
[32:22] Speaker 2: seven and twenty eight and live truly on the line.
[32:26] Speaker 18: Parlor policy is indeed, as you put it, it is
[32:29] Speaker 18: a matter of life and death. And there are people
[32:31] Speaker 18: right now in our country and even service members abroad
[32:36] Speaker 18: who are dead right now because of the outcome and election.
[32:41] Speaker 18: And so your voters are kind of prayer for the
[32:44] Speaker 18: world we desire, for ourselves and for our children. And
[32:46] Speaker 18: so let's pray our way all the way to and
[32:49] Speaker 18: through November with our all right hand, our legs are.
[32:52] Speaker 2: Hands, and our feet absolutely all right, Pratt, I appreciate it,
[32:56] Speaker 2: Thanks so much.
[32:58] Speaker 8: That's for all the cues in the cap. Much love
[33:01] Speaker 8: though we got. We got pan hooltic love. We love everybody.
[33:04] Speaker 2: I call them youth groups. I call them lil l
[33:08] Speaker 2: I l lil youth groups.
[33:09] Speaker 18: You know why you say that, because you don't need
[33:11] Speaker 18: them to vote for you.
[33:12] Speaker 8: I need all the pan heolitics to vote with me.
[33:17] Speaker 2: You just still call them that because they know it's true. Everybody,
[33:22] Speaker 2: all right, all right, all right, folks, Let's bring in
[33:29] Speaker 2: my panel joining me right now. Rebecca Carruthers, President CEO
[33:33] Speaker 2: Fair Election Center out of Washington, d C out of Patillo,
[33:37] Speaker 2: sil Roche attorney, Patilla Law Firm out of Atlanta. Derek
[33:41] Speaker 2: Jackson to representative out of Georgia. Glad all three of
[33:45] Speaker 2: y'all here. I'll start with you, Rebecca. What with cinner
[33:49] Speaker 2: one I talked about obviously, Uh, those issues, Listen, that's
[33:54] Speaker 2: what's gonna be on the ballot, this attack on black America. Uh,
[33:58] Speaker 2: Trump will give a damn about house. He's about lining
[34:00] Speaker 2: his own pockets. But I keep saying, what has to
[34:04] Speaker 2: happen is as opposed to folks fixating on marches and
[34:08] Speaker 2: rallies right now. And they said a purpose we should
[34:12] Speaker 2: be having more teachings, more training sessions and like the
[34:16] Speaker 2: dogs to get people to understand what the issues are,
[34:20] Speaker 2: who's in charge in how their vote actually makes a
[34:24] Speaker 2: difference when it comes to these life changing, life altered issues.
[34:31] Speaker 7: You know, the most important thing that the senator talked
[34:34] Speaker 7: about is he talked about policy through the lens of life.
[34:37] Speaker 7: And death, and he's absolutely right, and there are many
[34:40] Speaker 7: activists on the ground who are talking about policy in
[34:42] Speaker 7: those terms. I know, sometimes we talk about black representation
[34:46] Speaker 7: and we talk about, oh, we need black people. But
[34:48] Speaker 7: here's the thing that's also important in this moment. We
[34:52] Speaker 7: need people who are in power who are advocating for
[34:55] Speaker 7: black policies, policies that help push black communities in this
[35:00] Speaker 7: country forward, because it is life and death. If we're
[35:02] Speaker 7: talking about housing, the life expectancy of your house versus
[35:06] Speaker 7: un housed is quite different. When we're talking about a
[35:12] Speaker 7: a mountain of student loans, the ability to actually feed
[35:15] Speaker 7: your family and not be in a thirty year old
[35:18] Speaker 7: because you're trying to pay hundreds of hundreds of thousands
[35:20] Speaker 7: of dollars back because you pursued education.
[35:24] Speaker 12: And hope for a better life. When we talk about food.
[35:27] Speaker 7: Apartheid, food scarcity, When we talk about these issues, this
[35:31] Speaker 7: is life and death.
[35:32] Speaker 12: Of course, when we talk about foreign policy and what's.
[35:35] Speaker 7: Happening with the US and it's increased aggression in the
[35:38] Speaker 7: Middle East specifically Eron.
[35:40] Speaker 12: When we talk about these issues, we do have.
[35:43] Speaker 7: To understand that stakes are high and that we're seeing
[35:48] Speaker 7: that white supremacist in this country. They're playing for keeps,
[35:51] Speaker 7: and so we have to have that same level of
[35:53] Speaker 7: intensity as we're discussing policy. And yes, voting is important,
[35:58] Speaker 7: of course I will say that because I run national
[36:00] Speaker 7: Voting Rights organization. But voting is one of many steps.
[36:04] Speaker 7: But taking the time to examine policy helps people cut
[36:08] Speaker 7: through misinformation and disinformation that.
[36:11] Speaker 10: We see online.
[36:12] Speaker 7: The final thought that I would add here is that
[36:15] Speaker 7: look out, you're going to see an increase in foreign
[36:19] Speaker 7: interference on information on online platforms. It's not just about
[36:24] Speaker 7: the midterms, but for many people we have started the
[36:27] Speaker 7: March to twenty twenty eight.
[36:30] Speaker 19: Robert, I think the conversation with Senator Warnock was so
[36:35] Speaker 19: important primarily because I've dealt with for a lot more
[36:39] Speaker 19: Gen Z's recently, and they are by far the most
[36:43] Speaker 19: detached generation politically at their age of anything I can
[36:48] Speaker 19: remember in recent memory.
[36:49] Speaker 8: I remember when we.
[36:50] Speaker 19: Were all twenty two years old out marching and protesting
[36:54] Speaker 19: Bush's re election, saying We're going to stop the Iraq War,
[36:57] Speaker 19: saying that we were going to fight back again the
[37:00] Speaker 19: genocide and dar for those sorts of things who Democrats
[37:03] Speaker 19: have to realize this nest generation is not interested in
[37:07] Speaker 19: the same politics and policies of the past. You can't
[37:10] Speaker 19: just simply roll out of bed and count on them
[37:13] Speaker 19: to turn out. You have that to present to them
[37:15] Speaker 19: polities that they believe in, things that once you make
[37:18] Speaker 19: their lives better, and not just simply say how the
[37:20] Speaker 19: other side is terrible. If you are eighteen right now,
[37:23] Speaker 19: you've been dealing with Donald Trump since you were ten
[37:26] Speaker 19: years old. I mean, you've been the majority of your
[37:30] Speaker 19: life with this presidency, and therefore you don't understand what
[37:33] Speaker 19: America is like beforehand. Pointing out the absurdity of Trump
[37:37] Speaker 19: is no longer a winning strategy. You have to push
[37:39] Speaker 19: forward the policies that you actually know will help the
[37:42] Speaker 19: American people, and we have to get rid of this
[37:44] Speaker 19: old guard there for some reason things we can play
[37:46] Speaker 19: the same game again and again and again. This is
[37:49] Speaker 19: a new post Obama, radicalized young generation that's looking for
[37:53] Speaker 19: leadership and is looking for bold and strong solutions. And
[37:56] Speaker 19: that's what's going to win going forward, not simply recycling
[37:59] Speaker 19: retreating the same things we've done for the last forty years.
[38:03] Speaker 20: Eric, you know, I absolutely agree with my dear friends
[38:08] Speaker 20: that I share the panel with this evening but I'm
[38:11] Speaker 20: gonna just take a different kind of pivot. I'm happy
[38:14] Speaker 20: that Senator Warnock was able to deliver and actually got
[38:18] Speaker 20: this bill pass right, because we as Democrats, we often
[38:23] Speaker 20: tell every campaign election cycle what we want to do,
[38:29] Speaker 20: all the promises that we make, and unfortunately we don't deliver.
[38:33] Speaker 10: This is one that he delivered on.
[38:36] Speaker 20: I mean, right here in Georgia, as he are, we
[38:39] Speaker 20: articulated one out of every four homes roland owned by
[38:44] Speaker 20: someone on.
[38:46] Speaker 10: Wall Street, and our housing market has went through the roof.
[38:51] Speaker 20: And so as we continue to articulate this quality of
[38:55] Speaker 20: life and this American dream, here, Senator Warnock was able
[39:00] Speaker 20: to deliver I think a very hallmarked piece of legislation
[39:05] Speaker 20: to tell the American public, who do get out and vote,
[39:10] Speaker 20: and you vote for someone that aligned with your interests,
[39:14] Speaker 20: we can deliver and then hold them accountable to get
[39:18] Speaker 20: that particular thing done. And so I enjoy the fact
[39:24] Speaker 20: that this Housing Act has been done in spite of
[39:28] Speaker 20: the person that's in the over office.
[39:33] Speaker 2: All right, folks, gotta go to break.
[39:35] Speaker 12: We come back.
[39:36] Speaker 2: We're going to talk about a new research that shows
[39:40] Speaker 2: bred black voters stand in the wake of the Supreme
[39:42] Speaker 2: Court Louisiana vers Koalaid decision. We will also be talking
[39:46] Speaker 2: about the results of the Nolan Wells Independent Family Autopsy.
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[42:42] Speaker 13: Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr Brown
[42:46] Speaker 13: versus the Board of Education. The history books call it
[42:50] Speaker 13: the Court decision that ended racial segregation in American schools,
[42:55] Speaker 13: but a brand new book, Jim Crow's Pink Slip, uncovers
[42:59] Speaker 13: a devastating, unintended consequence of that nineteen fifty four Supreme
[43:05] Speaker 13: Court decision.
[43:06] Speaker 21: We may, if we were lucky, have been the very
[43:09] Speaker 21: last generation of black students who have experienced these generations
[43:14] Speaker 21: of black teachers who have never been replaced.
[43:16] Speaker 13: Doctor Leslie Finwick joins us to talk about her book
[43:19] Speaker 13: and the actions following that Landmark decision that dealt a
[43:23] Speaker 13: virtual death.
[43:24] Speaker 8: Blow to black educator. That's next on the Black Table
[43:29] Speaker 8: right here on the Black Star Network.
[43:33] Speaker 12: Hatred on the streets.
[43:34] Speaker 2: A horrific scene a white nationalists rally that descended into
[43:38] Speaker 2: deadly violence. White people are moving their their.
[43:44] Speaker 22: Man as an AGray pro Trump mark storm to the
[43:48] Speaker 22: US capital and six ship.
[43:50] Speaker 8: We're about to.
[43:50] Speaker 2: See the lies what I call white minority resistance. We
[43:53] Speaker 2: have seen white folks in this.
[43:55] Speaker 19: Country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.
[44:00] Speaker 20: What we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.
[44:04] Speaker 15: This is part of American history.
[44:06] Speaker 22: Every time that people of color have been in progress,
[44:09] Speaker 22: whether real or symbolic, there has been.
[44:11] Speaker 13: But Carol Anderson at every university calls white rage as
[44:15] Speaker 13: a backlash.
[44:16] Speaker 2: Says the wife of the Proud Boys and the Boogaaloo
[44:18] Speaker 2: Boys America.
[44:19] Speaker 6: There's going to be more of this, are the Proud
[44:22] Speaker 6: Boys guy.
[44:23] Speaker 2: This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and
[44:27] Speaker 2: its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The
[44:31] Speaker 2: food that they're taking our job, they're taking out our resources,
[44:34] Speaker 2: they're taking our women. This is white being.
[44:47] Speaker 17: Times wing cash Basketball Hall of Famer and you're watching
[44:50] Speaker 17: Roland Martin unfiltered.
[45:01] Speaker 2: The Supreme Courts Louisa Louisian versus Colley decision had a
[46:18] Speaker 2: devastating impact on black political power. Already, we've seen Republicans
[46:22] Speaker 2: wipe out congressional in state seats, and they plan to
[46:26] Speaker 2: do more after the mid term elections. Well, where are
[46:30] Speaker 2: black voters stand on this? How are they responding? How
[46:33] Speaker 2: do they feel? And is this going to be uh
[46:37] Speaker 2: a significant significant uh turnout uh effort? Uh in November
[46:43] Speaker 2: joined us right now, is uh Terrence wood barrier to
[46:46] Speaker 2: share with us uh some research uh that he uh
[46:49] Speaker 2: has been developing.
[46:51] Speaker 5: Uh.
[46:51] Speaker 2: He is the UH president and founding partner of Hit Strategies.
[46:55] Speaker 2: UH glad to have him uh join us to uh
[46:58] Speaker 2: talk about this here. So Terrees, take us through this
[47:01] Speaker 2: new data that you now have.
[47:03] Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me Roland.
[47:05] Speaker 23: You know, we have long known that when people are upset,
[47:08] Speaker 23: when they're pissed off, when they feel attacked, that these
[47:12] Speaker 23: resistance movements that they result and can win elections, just
[47:15] Speaker 23: like we saw in twenty twenty where the Black Lives
[47:18] Speaker 23: Matter movement mobilized young people across America delivering Democrats to victory.
[47:23] Speaker 23: In twenty twenty two, we saw the same thing with
[47:26] Speaker 23: the abortion rights movement, with the young people again being
[47:30] Speaker 23: mobilized to protect abortion rights in the wake of the
[47:33] Speaker 23: Dobbs decision which prevented the Red Wave. And now in
[47:36] Speaker 23: twenty twenty five, when we started watching these resistance movements,
[47:40] Speaker 23: whether it was the No Kings movement or the Ice
[47:43] Speaker 23: Out movement, Hitch Strategies began to observe that the complexion
[47:49] Speaker 23: of these movements were changing, and the age of these
[47:52] Speaker 23: movements were changing. They were just a little bit older
[47:54] Speaker 23: and a little bit wider, and so we started to
[47:57] Speaker 23: wanted to observe is what's going on with black folks.
[48:00] Speaker 23: We started the Black Ops Coalition, anchored by a bunch
[48:05] Speaker 23: of black civil rights and voter engaging organizations, and what
[48:13] Speaker 23: we found is that Number one, black folks are engaging
[48:16] Speaker 23: in this resistance movement, We're just we're engaging very differently.
[48:20] Speaker 23: Number Two is that since the Calais decision that gutted
[48:25] Speaker 23: the Voting Rights Act and began to systematically oppress black
[48:31] Speaker 23: votes and black power across the South, that black folks
[48:34] Speaker 23: see what's happening that they are more engaged in what's happening.
[48:37] Speaker 23: In fact, sixty five percent of black folks say that
[48:42] Speaker 23: the attacks on voting rights across the South have made
[48:45] Speaker 23: them more likely to vote. And we've seen activation engagement
[48:50] Speaker 23: that black people are taking actions now. In fact, seventy
[48:52] Speaker 23: five percent of black voters say they've taken at least
[48:55] Speaker 23: three actions to combat voter suppression. And that's up from
[49:00] Speaker 23: sixty two percent of black people that have been activated
[49:04] Speaker 23: this time last year. And so, look, we've long said
[49:07] Speaker 23: this Roland, if Republicans are going to try to oppress
[49:10] Speaker 23: black votes, they better keep doing it privately in smokey chambers,
[49:13] Speaker 23: behind closed doors, because once black folks find out about it,
[49:17] Speaker 23: we respond in kind. And so we have seen this
[49:21] Speaker 23: across the South. We know the South are not red states,
[49:24] Speaker 23: they've just been oppressed states. And now what we're seeing
[49:26] Speaker 23: in places like Georgia and in South Carolina with that
[49:29] Speaker 23: oppression is front and center, where state legislatures have attempted
[49:34] Speaker 23: to gut you know, two black congressional seats in Georgia,
[49:38] Speaker 23: and the resistance movement stopped them. In South Carolina, they
[49:41] Speaker 23: tried to snatch a representative Clyburn seat and the resistance
[49:46] Speaker 23: movement stopped them, and more importantly Roland. What we're seeing
[49:49] Speaker 23: is that in these democratic primaries that have happened after
[49:53] Speaker 23: the Calais decision, in places like Georgia and South Carolina,
[49:57] Speaker 23: that black voters are surging. And so we reckon ns
[50:00] Speaker 23: that our power is being attacked now, and we're taking
[50:02] Speaker 23: actions to protect it and not waiting until election day
[50:06] Speaker 23: to protect that power, but take an action right now.
[50:09] Speaker 2: When I think about generations, when I think about what
[50:15] Speaker 2: the numbers look like, I've often said this on this show.
[50:20] Speaker 2: I really I really started watching this thirty six years ago.
[50:29] Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety was a junior at Texas A and M University,
[50:33] Speaker 2: and I was listening to the conversations of African Americans.
[50:39] Speaker 2: So I'm born November fourteen, sixty eight. My brother's born
[50:42] Speaker 2: November thirteen, nineteen sixty seven. He's a year ahead of me,
[50:46] Speaker 2: so that generation. So he goes to Texas A and
[50:50] Speaker 2: M in nineteen eighty six. I go in nineteen eighty seven.
[50:54] Speaker 2: So we go to college. We go to college eighteen
[51:00] Speaker 2: nineteen years. And this is how people deem don't understand
[51:03] Speaker 2: the math. King gets killed in sixty eight, so we
[51:06] Speaker 2: literally were that first generation that was born and went
[51:11] Speaker 2: to college after the death of MLK. So I'm listening
[51:16] Speaker 2: to conversations and what I'm looking at realizing is that
[51:20] Speaker 2: that generation is coming out of school, first job, actually
[51:25] Speaker 2: making more money than many of our parents. And so
[51:28] Speaker 2: I'm listening to terms of what they're paying attention to.
[51:32] Speaker 2: And that's when I first started really saying, hey, y'all,
[51:36] Speaker 2: we better be mindful of this generational gap that we're seeing.
[51:42] Speaker 2: So we go from baby boomers to Gen X, then
[51:45] Speaker 2: we go from Gen X to millennials, then we go
[51:49] Speaker 2: from millennials to Gen Z, and behind Gen Z is
[51:53] Speaker 2: jen Alpha. So your research pointed this out. You said
[51:56] Speaker 2: that black gen Z go to my or less likely
[52:01] Speaker 2: than boomers to This is what the research showed. Black
[52:04] Speaker 2: gen z are less likely than boomers to fight for
[52:08] Speaker 2: freedom and racial justice, but black gen z are much
[52:12] Speaker 2: less likely to fight for American democracy or the right
[52:17] Speaker 2: to vote. Fifty six percent of black gen Z believe
[52:21] Speaker 2: that they do not have to defend democracy because it
[52:24] Speaker 2: is not work for us, compared to just twenty two
[52:27] Speaker 2: percent of black boomers. Younger black voters are almost twice
[52:31] Speaker 2: as likely to expect political violence forty four percent than
[52:35] Speaker 2: older black voters. Now what jumps out is that when
[52:38] Speaker 2: you and I talked, I guess it was twenty twenty
[52:40] Speaker 2: two for the election. When you were we were talking
[52:43] Speaker 2: about you were seeing how we have to use language differently. Soack, go,
[52:47] Speaker 2: go back to my iPad. So when I see the
[52:51] Speaker 2: gen Z are much less likely to fight for democracy
[52:54] Speaker 2: or the right to vote, that means that when I
[52:57] Speaker 2: think about Vice President Kamala Harrison's campaign, what was the
[53:00] Speaker 2: centerpiece of the campaign, fight for democracy and democracy? What
[53:04] Speaker 2: do you keep hearing people talk about fight for democracy
[53:07] Speaker 2: or we got to fight for our right to vote.
[53:09] Speaker 2: So the language that is being used actually is not
[53:14] Speaker 2: appealing to the vote we need to turn out.
[53:18] Speaker 23: That's that's exactly exactly right, Roland. Look, it's not that
[53:24] Speaker 23: we've been you know, we've been saying this since twenty
[53:26] Speaker 23: twenty two that Democrats have to stop defending democracy. Stop
[53:30] Speaker 23: defending democracy. That is not a winning message. That does
[53:34] Speaker 23: not mean that we abandon democracy. But young people, specifically
[53:38] Speaker 23: gen Z millennials, who have seen multiple candidates get the
[53:42] Speaker 23: most votes and still lose, who have seen an insurrection,
[53:47] Speaker 23: who have seen you know, candidates refuse to accept the
[53:50] Speaker 23: outcome of elections. These young people have had mixed results
[53:53] Speaker 23: from democracy and they are not prepared to defend that.
[53:56] Speaker 23: And so what we found is that while eighty one
[53:58] Speaker 23: percent of Black boomers say it is black black baby
[54:02] Speaker 23: boomer said it's important for them to defend democracy, only
[54:06] Speaker 23: fifty percent of Black gen z say it's important to
[54:09] Speaker 23: defend democracy.
[54:09] Speaker 2: So what that means is when we're talking about messaging,
[54:13] Speaker 2: you have to if you're taking Black people, you have
[54:17] Speaker 2: to have Black boomer messaging, Black gen X messaging, Black
[54:22] Speaker 2: millennial messaging, Black gen Z messaging. And the problem with
[54:27] Speaker 2: these white strategists is that they just want to do
[54:31] Speaker 2: one message to Black people.
[54:33] Speaker 6: That's it.
[54:33] Speaker 2: And the candidate says, well, and when I keep saying
[54:36] Speaker 2: this is like, no, you have to have a micro
[54:38] Speaker 2: targeting strategy. And this also goes for black politicians and
[54:42] Speaker 2: black groups. We have to be talking to different generations
[54:46] Speaker 2: in a different way.
[54:48] Speaker 10: That's exactly right.
[54:49] Speaker 23: I mean that we've heard a lot about the gender
[54:51] Speaker 23: gap in the black community role in how black men
[54:53] Speaker 23: show up different than Black women, when in fact, the
[54:56] Speaker 23: gender gap exists across every racial group and every group.
[55:00] Speaker 23: Women vote different than men, women show up more than men,
[55:04] Speaker 23: and in the Black community that gender gap is smaller
[55:07] Speaker 23: than it is in any other group. But what is
[55:10] Speaker 23: undermining our ability to coalesce this resistance, to really demonstrate
[55:15] Speaker 23: the full force of Black power is not the gender
[55:18] Speaker 23: gap between black men and black women. It is the
[55:20] Speaker 23: generation gap between older Black voters and younger Black voters.
[55:25] Speaker 23: We're across every single metric, whether it is you know
[55:28] Speaker 23: how important it is to fight for democracy, how likely
[55:31] Speaker 23: are you to vote, how much do you approve of
[55:34] Speaker 23: Donald Trump? When every metric, younger Black voters are twenty
[55:39] Speaker 23: points away from older Black voters. And so this is
[55:42] Speaker 23: where we have to start solving for the gap. And
[55:46] Speaker 23: a part of how we do that is by connecting
[55:48] Speaker 23: the dots between the democracy, these kind of pain points
[55:52] Speaker 23: of democracy and how those and how they are impacting
[55:58] Speaker 23: young people Black young voters.
[56:00] Speaker 10: Economically.
[56:01] Speaker 23: For example, right we may want to talk about ice
[56:04] Speaker 23: occupying our cities are being deployed into American cities, and
[56:09] Speaker 23: that's fine as long as we are connecting that to
[56:12] Speaker 23: the fact that that means that there are seventy five
[56:14] Speaker 23: billion dollars of wasteful spending that could have been used
[56:19] Speaker 23: to solve problems in your community. We can talk about
[56:22] Speaker 23: an unconstitutional war in Iran, that's fine, but it's more
[56:27] Speaker 23: important to talk about the fact that we're spending eight
[56:29] Speaker 23: billion dollars a day in Iran, almost thirty billion dollars wasted,
[56:34] Speaker 23: and what Democrats would have solved with that money. Because
[56:38] Speaker 23: this is I mean, it comes down to how is
[56:41] Speaker 23: this impacting me personally? And all of these decisions, all
[56:45] Speaker 23: of these attacks on democracy, on voting rights, they have
[56:48] Speaker 23: economic implications, and we have to connect the dots and
[56:52] Speaker 23: show how these these decisions are. Yes, they're undermining America's democracy,
[56:57] Speaker 23: but also they are hurting you, your family.
[56:59] Speaker 2: And your This right here jumped out at me and
[57:02] Speaker 2: I found this to be really interesting. Now, first of all,
[57:05] Speaker 2: this is the actual just the graph here, but I'm
[57:08] Speaker 2: gonna go down here, and when you talk about that
[57:11] Speaker 2: black female divide again, we have to deal with messaging.
[57:15] Speaker 2: So it says, hurt you personally, not made a difference, personally,
[57:20] Speaker 2: help you personally. Men under fifty Trump's policies hurt you
[57:25] Speaker 2: personally thirty nine percent, not made a difference, forty percent,
[57:31] Speaker 2: help you personally eighteen percent. Now we go women under
[57:36] Speaker 2: fifty start contrast, hurt you personally sixty two percent, not
[57:42] Speaker 2: made a difference, personally twenty four percent, help you personally
[57:47] Speaker 2: nine percent. Let's go to men plus fifty, hurt you
[57:52] Speaker 2: personally sixty nine percent. So it jumps from thirty nine
[57:59] Speaker 2: to sixty nine. When you go from men under fifty
[58:03] Speaker 2: to men plus fifty, not made a difference, goes from
[58:08] Speaker 2: forty to twenty two. Help you personally drops eighteen to eight.
[58:14] Speaker 2: Now with the same thing, if we're talking about messaging
[58:19] Speaker 2: and how do you talk. So now, if you're talking
[58:22] Speaker 2: to black men, the conversation to black men fifty plus
[58:27] Speaker 2: is different than the ones below that because again, when
[58:31] Speaker 2: you look at numbers, who are the folks that have
[58:33] Speaker 2: been getting laid off, largely African Americans who are fifty
[58:37] Speaker 2: plus men and women, federal workers, others, impacts of DEI
[58:42] Speaker 2: and so again, what it is saying is is that
[58:47] Speaker 2: when we're talking about how do we communicate, we have
[58:51] Speaker 2: to be you know, I'm thinking about I forgot the
[58:54] Speaker 2: guy's last name, but he's the author about your love language.
[58:57] Speaker 2: I mean, that's what this is all about. All this
[59:00] Speaker 2: is saying is you cannot continue with this sort of
[59:05] Speaker 2: one size fits all that worked from nineteen Let's just
[59:11] Speaker 2: be honest, that worked from sixty eight to two thousand
[59:19] Speaker 2: and four. Obama comes along, he completely changes all of it.
[59:24] Speaker 2: He's an anomaly. So you got to really take him
[59:27] Speaker 2: out of eight and twelve and you got to look
[59:29] Speaker 2: at the election since then, and so the messaging has
[59:33] Speaker 2: to be different.
[59:36] Speaker 23: That's exactly right, Roland. And you know what makes that
[59:38] Speaker 23: quite easy is the Internet. You know what makes it
[59:41] Speaker 23: easy to target specific voters with a specific message is
[59:45] Speaker 23: the Internet and the fact that they're consuming all the
[59:47] Speaker 23: information from the palm of their hand where they could
[59:50] Speaker 23: be targeted.
[59:51] Speaker 10: I mean, think about what we're talking about.
[59:52] Speaker 23: We're talking about segmenting black men and black women as
[59:55] Speaker 23: rudimentary is you know, a rudimentary division as that when
[1:00:00] Speaker 23: it was what a decade ago that Cambridge Analytica was
[1:00:04] Speaker 23: using data to get vote, you know, to isolate Brexit
[1:00:09] Speaker 23: messaging per person, not per demo or per group, but
[1:00:13] Speaker 23: per person isolation.
[1:00:15] Speaker 10: This is what we are combating. We're combating.
[1:00:20] Speaker 23: The right the other side, Republicans who are targeting young
[1:00:23] Speaker 23: men with messaging, who are isolating and frankly showing them
[1:00:28] Speaker 23: messaging that none of us are really seeing or hearing
[1:00:31] Speaker 23: because it's only in the palm of their hand. And
[1:00:34] Speaker 23: we are still trying to blanket blanket message as if
[1:00:38] Speaker 23: we were only advertising on television, as opposed to using
[1:00:42] Speaker 23: the power of targeting on the internet. Young men, you know,
[1:00:47] Speaker 23: when I look at the at the graph that you
[1:00:49] Speaker 23: just put up, eighteen percent of black men under fifty
[1:00:52] Speaker 23: saying that Donald.
[1:00:53] Speaker 11: Trump's policies have helped them personally, Guess.
[1:00:56] Speaker 10: How many black men under the age of fifty.
[1:00:58] Speaker 11: Voted for Donald Trump? Eighteen percent?
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: And that eighteen percent and eighteen percent helped me personally,
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: y'all is just right in the data women under fifty nine,
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: men plus fifty eight women fifty plus two defenders eight percent,
[1:01:16] Speaker 2: activals seven percent, spectators eleven percent. So that's the highest
[1:01:21] Speaker 2: percentage out of all of those groups.
[1:01:24] Speaker 23: And look, bro, and keep that up for a second,
[1:01:26] Speaker 23: because I just want to draw this correlation. I'm gonna
[1:01:28] Speaker 23: get in the weeds a little bit here with correlations.
[1:01:30] Speaker 23: But when you just look at that bottom row, black
[1:01:33] Speaker 23: men under fifty, eighteen percent say that Donald Trump's policies
[1:01:36] Speaker 23: have helped them personally. Eighteen percent voted for Donald Trump.
[1:01:40] Speaker 23: Black men over fifty, only eight percent said that Donald
[1:01:44] Speaker 23: Trump's policies to date have helped them personally. Eight percent
[1:01:48] Speaker 23: of Black men under fifty voted for Donald Trump. Look
[1:01:51] Speaker 23: at black women over fifty, only two percent say that
[1:01:56] Speaker 23: Trump's policies in his second term have helped them. Only
[1:02:01] Speaker 23: two percent of black women voted for Donald Trump. I
[1:02:03] Speaker 23: mean it's a direct correlation. We have to now demonstrate
[1:02:07] Speaker 23: how the actions of this federal government are hurting these
[1:02:10] Speaker 23: black men personally, and this and the Black Ops research
[1:02:15] Speaker 23: demonstrates how we do that.
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: Last question for me then to go to my panel
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: as a part of this, when when you were doing
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: this did did you did you ask folks where they're
[1:02:29] Speaker 2: getting their information from, which also speaks to how we
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: should be communicating with them.
[1:02:37] Speaker 23: Yes, so we dive a lot into where they're getting information,
[1:02:40] Speaker 23: but also we dive into who the trusted messengers are,
[1:02:44] Speaker 23: who they need to hear from.
[1:02:46] Speaker 10: And there's there's a couple of things happening here.
[1:02:48] Speaker 23: Number One, Barack Obama Michelle Obama remained the most trusted
[1:02:51] Speaker 23: messengers in the black community. That ain't gonna change no
[1:02:53] Speaker 23: time soon. But what's most important is who comes right
[1:02:56] Speaker 23: after them, and that is people like me and people
[1:02:59] Speaker 23: like you, right, they want to hear from their peers
[1:03:03] Speaker 23: in this age of kind of you.
[1:03:05] Speaker 10: Know, this splintered.
[1:03:08] Speaker 23: Communications ecosystem where everyone is hearing a different message, everyone
[1:03:12] Speaker 23: is reading a different message.
[1:03:14] Speaker 8: There it is there.
[1:03:15] Speaker 23: Barack Obama fifty one percent of black voters say that
[1:03:17] Speaker 23: he's the most trusted messenger.
[1:03:19] Speaker 10: But right after Barack Obama are people like them.
[1:03:23] Speaker 23: Their most trusted messenger are their friends, their family, their peers,
[1:03:26] Speaker 23: and notably, and here's where we start getting to the
[1:03:29] Speaker 23: media strategy. The influencers that they have chosen to follow
[1:03:34] Speaker 23: and trust, those are their trusted messengers. Those are the
[1:03:37] Speaker 23: people like them. And so we have an opportunity. And
[1:03:41] Speaker 23: all of these are twice as high as black celebrities,
[1:03:45] Speaker 23: as black athletes, as you know, jay Z, Beyonce, all
[1:03:50] Speaker 23: the folks, Cardi b, Meg, the Stallion, all the folks
[1:03:54] Speaker 23: that we're going to throw in stage over the next
[1:03:55] Speaker 23: ninety days when the people that they trust, and we
[1:03:58] Speaker 23: should do that.
[1:03:59] Speaker 10: I want to be clear.
[1:04:00] Speaker 23: Celebrities break through the noise and get people's attention that
[1:04:04] Speaker 23: are otherwise checked out of politics. But when it comes
[1:04:06] Speaker 23: to changing what they believe, when it comes to making
[1:04:10] Speaker 23: those eighteen percent of young black men who say that
[1:04:13] Speaker 23: Trump's policies.
[1:04:14] Speaker 8: Have helped them.
[1:04:16] Speaker 11: When it comes to changing those perceptions, they need to
[1:04:19] Speaker 11: hear from their peers.
[1:04:20] Speaker 23: They need to hear from other young black men. And
[1:04:22] Speaker 23: the part of how we do that is by hiring
[1:04:27] Speaker 23: and listing the influencers, and I want to be clear
[1:04:30] Speaker 23: hiring them with money, because that is what the right
[1:04:34] Speaker 23: is doing. They are finding the points of the centers
[1:04:37] Speaker 23: of gravity on social media, on TikTok, on Instagram, and
[1:04:41] Speaker 23: they are paying them to deliver this black pill of
[1:04:45] Speaker 23: annihilation that nothing is going to get better, no one
[1:04:48] Speaker 23: has your back. You might as well withdraw, just get money.
[1:04:52] Speaker 23: Black women have done enough. You're part of the ninety
[1:04:54] Speaker 23: two percent. That is the bullshit that is being fed
[1:04:57] Speaker 23: and targeted to these young voltes, and we can only
[1:05:01] Speaker 23: counter that with other influencers that they have already chosen
[1:05:05] Speaker 23: to trust. It's the equivalent rolling of what we used
[1:05:08] Speaker 23: to call feed in the streets, putting money on the
[1:05:11] Speaker 23: streets and street teams. When we used to meet black
[1:05:14] Speaker 23: men where they are, we were meeting them in barber shops. Well,
[1:05:18] Speaker 23: now meeting them where they are is in the palm
[1:05:20] Speaker 23: of their hand and the people, the messengers that they trust,
[1:05:23] Speaker 23: they already follow.
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, listen, listen. My feand brother Todd Brown hit
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: me today and he said his son came home and
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: he was like, yo, he said, man, why y'all didn't
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: tell me about Roland Martin? Because because his barber leave
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: the show on the moment he opened, he opens because
[1:05:48] Speaker 2: we have this show. We also have a twenty four
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: hour channel on YouTube that you could just put on
[1:05:53] Speaker 2: in circulates, and and he was talking about that, I've
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: got other So the point is, what I keep saying
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: is you have to produce the content. It makes it
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: available to them, and so and they're and so they're
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: touching it in their own way. And so my whole
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: deal is you have to be using it to be
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: talking to them, reaching them, speaking to their issues. We're
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: going to be dropping I was going to have it ready,
[1:06:18] Speaker 2: but we're changing our promos. A new show we're launching
[1:06:21] Speaker 2: that specifically targeting black men. But the whole point is
[1:06:24] Speaker 2: you have to have different messaging that resonates with them.
[1:06:30] Speaker 2: So whether it's black men, black women, black men fifty
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: plus under eighteen thirty five is all that way and
[1:06:37] Speaker 2: you know, and like I had somebody and they were like, well,
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: you know, man, you need to have brother told me like, well,
[1:06:42] Speaker 2: you need to have this. Is this on your show?
[1:06:44] Speaker 2: Rich a younger people, And I actually said, no, you
[1:06:48] Speaker 2: need to have a separate show that does that. And
[1:06:51] Speaker 2: again he wasn't understanding what I was trying to say.
[1:06:54] Speaker 2: I say, you can't. You can't do everything for everybody.
[1:06:57] Speaker 2: I understand our wor core ardiers with this show's forty
[1:07:00] Speaker 2: five plus, that's our core audience. So we created the
[1:07:04] Speaker 2: Other Side of Change hosts about two millennials specifically for that. Again,
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: folk have to understand that today's media is totally different
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: than now I normally think about it quickly. Let me
[1:07:15] Speaker 2: go to the panelists. Robert, your question for Terrence.
[1:07:20] Speaker 19: Terrence, I think it's a really important conversation because often
[1:07:23] Speaker 19: that we have this generational divide between before Boomers and
[1:07:28] Speaker 19: Gen Z, and then it was Generation X and Generation Alpha,
[1:07:33] Speaker 19: et cetera. What do you think has to happen in
[1:07:35] Speaker 19: order to create the type of messaging they will be
[1:07:38] Speaker 19: broad based enough to get all these disparate groups on
[1:07:41] Speaker 19: the same page. You know, we're trying to get people
[1:07:43] Speaker 19: who listen to both Pattalabela and the city girls to
[1:07:46] Speaker 19: vote for the same people.
[1:07:47] Speaker 8: What has to happen to get that messaging out there.
[1:07:51] Speaker 23: I take it a step back, people, And this is
[1:07:54] Speaker 23: something I've continued to advise Democrats, is that when people
[1:07:58] Speaker 23: are experiencing pain, frankly, when their lives seem to suck, they.
[1:08:02] Speaker 11: Need to they need a reason for that pain.
[1:08:06] Speaker 10: What And it can't just be because I ain't doing
[1:08:08] Speaker 10: something right.
[1:08:09] Speaker 23: I got the degree, I went to school, I did
[1:08:11] Speaker 23: all the things you told me to do, and this
[1:08:12] Speaker 23: shit still sucks.
[1:08:13] Speaker 11: And those people need a pain.
[1:08:15] Speaker 23: And young black men are experiencing a separation and an isolation,
[1:08:23] Speaker 23: struggling to enter into this workforce and to find their footing.
[1:08:27] Speaker 23: And these are young black men that got degrees, saddled
[1:08:30] Speaker 23: with debt and still can't get a footing. Those young
[1:08:33] Speaker 23: black men need a reason for that pain. And what
[1:08:36] Speaker 23: Donald Trump does comes along and tells them that the
[1:08:39] Speaker 23: reason for your pain, he says, says the same thing
[1:08:41] Speaker 23: to young black men, the same thing to white oral men,
[1:08:44] Speaker 23: the same that the reason for your pain is because
[1:08:47] Speaker 23: of those other people that are getting what you deserve,
[1:08:50] Speaker 23: those immigrants, those Muslims, those trans kids, and I think
[1:08:55] Speaker 23: that Democrats, Frankly, I don't know what reason we have
[1:08:58] Speaker 23: given these young black men for why they're for why
[1:09:01] Speaker 23: they're experiencing this kind of pain. Besides, the only reason
[1:09:04] Speaker 23: I could think of in the last ten years is
[1:09:06] Speaker 23: Donald Trump, and they're just not buying that. They were
[1:09:10] Speaker 23: experiencing this pain before Trump. In fact, we beat Trump,
[1:09:12] Speaker 23: somebody else became president, and it still sucked. And now
[1:09:16] Speaker 23: he's back and it still sucks. At least, you know,
[1:09:20] Speaker 23: to the message that he's presenting. He is trying to
[1:09:23] Speaker 23: get rid of the people that are causing that problem.
[1:09:26] Speaker 23: I would argue that one message that I know cuts
[1:09:29] Speaker 23: across this generational divide, in fact, it cuts across every
[1:09:33] Speaker 23: race and every gender, is that the reason that your
[1:09:36] Speaker 23: life sucks is not because of the people that have
[1:09:39] Speaker 23: less than you.
[1:09:40] Speaker 11: It's because of the people that have way too damn
[1:09:42] Speaker 11: much that.
[1:09:43] Speaker 23: Are willing to take from you and from them so
[1:09:46] Speaker 23: that they can have even more, the people that are
[1:09:48] Speaker 23: rigging the system against you. That is a message that
[1:09:52] Speaker 23: resonates with seventy three percent of Americae, not seventy three
[1:09:56] Speaker 23: percent of Black America. Seventy three percent of Americans believe
[1:10:00] Speaker 23: that corporations and billionaires are rigging the system against us,
[1:10:04] Speaker 23: and so Democrats have an opportunity to own that message
[1:10:08] Speaker 23: and then to really begin to hold these corporations accountable
[1:10:11] Speaker 23: for the special for the way special interest are rigging
[1:10:14] Speaker 23: the system.
[1:10:14] Speaker 10: There, Terrence, great.
[1:10:17] Speaker 8: To see you again.
[1:10:19] Speaker 10: Listen. My question is around the primary versus the general election.
[1:10:25] Speaker 20: When I look at the primaries, the turnout is so
[1:10:29] Speaker 20: extremely low. I mean, I know, we continue to talk
[1:10:32] Speaker 20: about they're coming to take your voting rights and voter
[1:10:35] Speaker 20: suppression and all that, and here in Georgia we were talking.
[1:10:40] Speaker 10: About record breakings, this and that and the other.
[1:10:42] Speaker 20: Based on last year, well, our turnout, Terrence, was only
[1:10:46] Speaker 20: twenty eight percent.
[1:10:48] Speaker 10: Seventy two percent stayed home. And so when you have
[1:10:51] Speaker 10: two point five.
[1:10:52] Speaker 20: Million black voters right here in Georgia, what can we
[1:10:57] Speaker 20: do to cut through this low voter turnout? And I
[1:11:01] Speaker 20: get the messaging piece, but it seems like there's something else.
[1:11:04] Speaker 20: It's not just restrictive that we continue to pass in Georgia.
[1:11:08] Speaker 20: It's not just talking about democracy or they coming to
[1:11:11] Speaker 20: take your voting rights. We got to be able to
[1:11:13] Speaker 20: cut through this low voter turnout. And then the last thing,
[1:11:17] Speaker 20: but not least, I would love to see your data
[1:11:19] Speaker 20: around name I D because we've.
[1:11:23] Speaker 10: Seen the hang our hats on name I D.
[1:11:25] Speaker 20: Because I guarantee you, if you ask back in two
[1:11:28] Speaker 20: thousand and seven, will you believe in Barack Obama, the
[1:11:31] Speaker 20: answer will not be fifty one percent like it is today.
[1:11:34] Speaker 23: That's right, that's right, You're spot on, you are spot on.
[1:11:38] Speaker 23: So you know, Georgia is priority number one for me
[1:11:41] Speaker 23: in twenty twenty six. In fact, I have moved to
[1:11:43] Speaker 23: Atlanta to help a black woman and a young black
[1:11:46] Speaker 23: woman become governor and a young millennial get re elected
[1:11:49] Speaker 23: to the US Senate. And I do think that those two,
[1:11:52] Speaker 23: you know, one of the things that we have seen
[1:11:54] Speaker 23: is that Candida's election matters, you know, and when you
[1:11:57] Speaker 23: when you have candidates that represent the broad diversity of
[1:12:00] Speaker 23: the coalition, that speak to the lived experience of people,
[1:12:04] Speaker 23: and that can tell you why your life sucks. Because
[1:12:06] Speaker 23: I am experiencing it too, because my children are experiencing
[1:12:10] Speaker 23: it too, because my siblings are experiencing it too. That
[1:12:13] Speaker 23: is a very very different proposition than what they've been experiencing.
[1:12:17] Speaker 23: And so I do think that's going to be important
[1:12:19] Speaker 23: in Georgia. I would also argue that you know, this
[1:12:21] Speaker 23: is investment, It's going to take resources. And we've done
[1:12:26] Speaker 23: this analysis cycle over cycle where turnout in battleground states
[1:12:31] Speaker 23: where one hundred million dollars is being spent is double
[1:12:34] Speaker 23: digit ten twenty points higher than it is in states
[1:12:38] Speaker 23: where we're not investing.
[1:12:39] Speaker 11: And so Georgia is going to be a very high
[1:12:42] Speaker 11: investment state.
[1:12:44] Speaker 23: But then the last thing I would say is we
[1:12:46] Speaker 23: are seeing that black approval rating of Donald Trump has
[1:12:49] Speaker 23: plummeted back down to five or six percent. It was
[1:12:53] Speaker 23: as high as twenty to twenty five percent at the
[1:12:56] Speaker 23: beginning of this second term. But the problem is that
[1:12:59] Speaker 23: as his approval rating has plummeted, you know, as they've
[1:13:03] Speaker 23: become anti.
[1:13:04] Speaker 11: Trump, they have not become pro Democrats.
[1:13:07] Speaker 23: And so this is why I encourage Democrats, especially in
[1:13:11] Speaker 23: places like Georgia where a lot of money is about
[1:13:14] Speaker 23: to be spent, to give voters something to vote for
[1:13:17] Speaker 23: and not.
[1:13:18] Speaker 11: Just something to vote against.
[1:13:19] Speaker 23: They know Republicans suck, they know Donald Trump is terrible,
[1:13:22] Speaker 23: they know Maga is second them.
[1:13:25] Speaker 11: They need to know what Democrats are going to do
[1:13:27] Speaker 11: for them.
[1:13:28] Speaker 12: Rebecca Hey, Terrence, is good to see you, and I
[1:13:32] Speaker 12: owe you a phone call.
[1:13:34] Speaker 11: Yes you do so, and I'll be Enjoorgia next week.
[1:13:40] Speaker 7: So I'm reading ele Baker's biography, especially as she's talking
[1:13:45] Speaker 7: about participatory democracy.
[1:13:50] Speaker 2: They.
[1:13:54] Speaker 12: Especially as she's challenging black hierarchy.
[1:13:57] Speaker 7: I'm raising this because when I look at influencers online
[1:14:02] Speaker 7: on behalf of the party or on behalf of candidates,
[1:14:05] Speaker 7: when I look at celebrities, when I look at black churches,
[1:14:08] Speaker 7: black fraternities and sororities, that has been the way in
[1:14:12] Speaker 7: which the black establishment has said, Okay, this is how.
[1:14:15] Speaker 12: We're going to organize the black community.
[1:14:17] Speaker 15: It's not working.
[1:14:18] Speaker 7: So how do we get the black entrenched establishment to
[1:14:22] Speaker 7: understand that we have to get everyday black people involved
[1:14:26] Speaker 7: into this thing if we're actually going to do something
[1:14:29] Speaker 7: to move our communities forward.
[1:14:32] Speaker 10: Luckily, you know I frankly, I.
[1:14:39] Speaker 23: I don't know how we convince the democratic establishment to
[1:14:43] Speaker 23: do things differently without replacing.
[1:14:46] Speaker 10: More of them.
[1:14:46] Speaker 11: Frankly, I'm going to get in trouble for saying.
[1:14:48] Speaker 23: That, But that is why it is so important for
[1:14:52] Speaker 23: organizations like yours, for grassroots organizations across the country. Black
[1:14:57] Speaker 23: Wisconsin and Detroit and Power Pennsylvania and Top Texas organizing,
[1:15:04] Speaker 23: that all of these these groups that have become a
[1:15:07] Speaker 23: center of gravity in our community, that they are funded,
[1:15:12] Speaker 23: that they are that there will resourced because they are
[1:15:15] Speaker 23: doing a lot of the work that state parties used
[1:15:18] Speaker 23: to do. And so, you know, as the national party,
[1:15:21] Speaker 23: I believe it's kind of in a soul search for
[1:15:23] Speaker 23: the brand of the party that I don't know will
[1:15:25] Speaker 23: be answered until twenty twenty eight. That that we just
[1:15:29] Speaker 23: have to make sure that the groups that are on
[1:15:31] Speaker 23: the ground, that have demonstrated a proof of progress, that
[1:15:35] Speaker 23: that have been on campuses the way.
[1:15:36] Speaker 10: You have organizing and mobilizing.
[1:15:39] Speaker 23: And registering young people, that those groups are actually well
[1:15:41] Speaker 23: funded because that's where the work is happening.
[1:15:44] Speaker 2: All right, Terrence? Where can people go to check out
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: all of the research?
[1:15:49] Speaker 23: Yeah, please check out the Black Ops project. We've been
[1:15:52] Speaker 23: conducting this research for the past year. Focus groups, polls,
[1:15:55] Speaker 23: top lines, all the focused group clips can be found
[1:15:59] Speaker 23: at www dot hitstrap dot com, backslash backslash black Ops.
[1:16:06] Speaker 11: Uh, And please, I really encourage you.
[1:16:08] Speaker 23: To listen to some of these focus group clips, listen
[1:16:10] Speaker 23: to the pain in these black voters and instead of
[1:16:12] Speaker 23: us talking about these black voters.
[1:16:14] Speaker 2: Well, what we'll do is we'll also we'll we'll we'll
[1:16:17] Speaker 2: pull some of that so we can actually share this.
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: People can actually see it, understand it. Terres, We appreciate it.
[1:16:22] Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Thank you, brother folks. Quick break, we
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: come back. We're gonna talk about a critical case out
[1:16:27] Speaker 2: of Delaware. Black man shot and kill family demanding answers.
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[1:18:33] Speaker 2: Spread the word the Failimly Kadeer Skinner is calling for
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: criminal charters against the police officer who shot and killed
[1:18:44] Speaker 2: the black nineteen year old in Wilmlington, Delaware. We went
[1:18:47] Speaker 2: to Police have previously said that around eleven pm on
[1:18:49] Speaker 2: June twenty four, Skinner came out of his home and
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: waved a gun at a crowd, prompting officers to open fire. However,
[1:18:56] Speaker 2: Skinner's family insists that he was running away from a
[1:18:59] Speaker 2: loose dog. Many are calling for justice on behalf of Skinner,
[1:19:02] Speaker 2: including black clergy leaders. Doing a virtual news conference on Tuesday,
[1:19:07] Speaker 2: Bishop William Barber demanded transparency and a fairness in this
[1:19:10] Speaker 2: sense is killing another young black man.
[1:19:13] Speaker 8: This is not just to isolate incident number two.
[1:19:18] Speaker 9: We must call for even members of the police community
[1:19:22] Speaker 9: that know things to come forward.
[1:19:24] Speaker 8: This is not a time for the police to be
[1:19:27] Speaker 8: in solidated with wrong.
[1:19:29] Speaker 9: You know wrong was done, then you need to step
[1:19:32] Speaker 9: up along with these men and women of God of
[1:19:35] Speaker 9: all faiths.
[1:19:36] Speaker 8: Number three, this is about humanity.
[1:19:38] Speaker 9: While this is a nineteen year old black man, anybody,
[1:19:42] Speaker 9: black boy, teenager, baby, to most of us, anybody that's
[1:19:48] Speaker 9: not concerned about somebody being shot in the back has
[1:19:53] Speaker 9: lost some of your humanity. And then, finally, as past
[1:19:59] Speaker 9: the Bland will say on August twenty fourth, we're having
[1:20:02] Speaker 9: a mass community, right, you said, well, why is it
[1:20:04] Speaker 9: the twenty four? Why not immediately, because we're going to
[1:20:07] Speaker 9: make it strong and big and powerful to show that
[1:20:12] Speaker 9: this community is not going to be on fire and
[1:20:15] Speaker 9: be concerned for two days or three days or one
[1:20:18] Speaker 9: week and then back away. That's not who you're dealing
[1:20:20] Speaker 9: with in these brothers and sisters. That's not who you're
[1:20:22] Speaker 9: dealing with in past the blasts. Now who you're dealing
[1:20:24] Speaker 9: with Attorney Daniels and others.
[1:20:28] Speaker 8: This is sit have.
[1:20:29] Speaker 9: You have to stick and stay because Kadea at nineteen,
[1:20:34] Speaker 9: not twenty, not twenty one. At nineteen, he wasn't robbing
[1:20:38] Speaker 9: a bank, but he was shot in the back. He
[1:20:41] Speaker 9: wasn't resisting arrest, but he was shot in the back.
[1:20:44] Speaker 9: He wasn't committing a crime, but he was shot in
[1:20:47] Speaker 9: the back. He wasn't beating somebody down. He was shot
[1:20:50] Speaker 9: in the back. He was shot in the back and
[1:20:55] Speaker 9: killed and did not die immediately and then died over time,
[1:21:01] Speaker 9: dying without getting the treatment that maybe could have saved
[1:21:05] Speaker 9: his life. Well, we believe at this point is an unnecessary,
[1:21:09] Speaker 9: unprovoked mr ra a shooting of a nineteen year old.
[1:21:16] Speaker 9: Keep saying it in the back. And Pastor Bland told
[1:21:20] Speaker 9: me that that peace troubles the whole nation when every
[1:21:23] Speaker 9: time we tell other people they say, well, what he
[1:21:26] Speaker 9: was in the back at nineteen and then laid and
[1:21:30] Speaker 9: then died later. So Pastor Bland, we know that we're
[1:21:35] Speaker 9: standing inside their people all over. There has to be justice,
[1:21:38] Speaker 9: there has to be truth, There has to be transparentcy folks.
[1:21:42] Speaker 2: Showing us right now is Harroy Daniels, the attorney for
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: the family, Harry, glad to have you here now now.
[1:21:50] Speaker 2: The Woman Police Department, they released a body camera for
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: different three officers showing three different perspectives of what took place.
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: The first videos apparently from the officer who actually shot Kadeer.
[1:21:58] Speaker 2: Y'all can actually roll that will walk us through your
[1:22:02] Speaker 2: perspective in terms of what you and the family are
[1:22:05] Speaker 2: saying with what happened.
[1:22:05] Speaker 8: Here, Thanks for having me Rowland.
[1:22:10] Speaker 24: On the night of the incident, an officer with two
[1:22:13] Speaker 24: officers in the patrol vehicle and they was, I guess
[1:22:16] Speaker 24: the patrol in the area.
[1:22:17] Speaker 8: I don't.
[1:22:17] Speaker 24: We don't know exactly what was their purpose for their
[1:22:21] Speaker 24: presence in that neighborhood, but at some point they saw
[1:22:25] Speaker 24: Kadeer running. The cop the police patrol vehicle stop. Both
[1:22:32] Speaker 24: officer exit the vehicle and started to give chase to Cadeer.
[1:22:36] Speaker 24: In the video, at the end of the video, if
[1:22:39] Speaker 24: you slow it down, you can see Cader running from
[1:22:42] Speaker 24: a dog. In fact, we have witnesses statements that in
[1:22:45] Speaker 24: fact corroborated the video before we even saw the video,
[1:22:49] Speaker 24: that he was walking down the street, turned the corner
[1:22:51] Speaker 24: and a vicious dog got loose and he took off
[1:22:54] Speaker 24: running and simonstainers as these cops I pulled up and
[1:22:57] Speaker 24: kind of did a roll stop. At some point, why
[1:23:01] Speaker 24: ca there is running, the officer pulls this firearm and
[1:23:05] Speaker 24: fired three shots, striking Cader in the back. What we
[1:23:09] Speaker 24: do know is that he was shot in the back
[1:23:12] Speaker 24: he was running from the police. We have all witnesses
[1:23:15] Speaker 24: to that account that that not just the video along
[1:23:20] Speaker 24: but corroborates what's on the video and cooporates the physical
[1:23:23] Speaker 24: evidence here. Uh, the Williams Police Department initially came out
[1:23:28] Speaker 24: and said the cader came out of house pointed gun
[1:23:31] Speaker 24: at a crowd of people. That prompted the officer to
[1:23:34] Speaker 24: give chase. And if you can see the video that
[1:23:35] Speaker 24: you kind of see the dog running. You can see
[1:23:37] Speaker 24: the dog running behind him.
[1:23:39] Speaker 8: That's not true.
[1:23:40] Speaker 24: The second video shows a better advantage point of what's
[1:23:43] Speaker 24: what's down the street and the direction where Cadre is
[1:23:46] Speaker 24: running from, and that clearly showed that he was not
[1:23:49] Speaker 24: in an in any way in form coming out of
[1:23:53] Speaker 24: the house, pointed weapon at a dog, anything in capacity.
[1:23:59] Speaker 24: A gun was recovered away from his body. That guy
[1:24:04] Speaker 24: was handled picked up. But as we stayed it before, looks.
[1:24:12] Speaker 2: Like we lost Harry there. We'll hope to get him
[1:24:15] Speaker 2: back to to further explain, folks, there are other angles.
[1:24:20] Speaker 2: Here's a third angle from the third officer who arrived
[1:24:22] Speaker 2: on the scenes. Go ahead and roll that and so
[1:24:25] Speaker 2: again and so there have been three different videos that
[1:24:27] Speaker 2: have been released showing roll the video. Please have three
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: different videos that have been released different angles of what
[1:24:34] Speaker 2: took place on that night, and again, what you are,
[1:24:39] Speaker 2: what you are hearing from this family is that you
[1:24:41] Speaker 2: know that they want justice. You know. Unfortunately, we have
[1:24:45] Speaker 2: seen far too many of these cases, Robert, where let's
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: just be clear, benefit of the doubt often goes to
[1:24:52] Speaker 2: the police officer. Uh. And then when they put out
[1:24:55] Speaker 2: there there's there's a gun on the scene, people just
[1:24:58] Speaker 2: automatically go, yep, there you go, he's guilty. Move on. Well.
[1:25:03] Speaker 19: This is one of the most importive things that came
[1:25:05] Speaker 19: out of President Obama's twenty first century policing policy, which
[1:25:09] Speaker 19: is a proliferation that we've now seen above bodycam foot is,
[1:25:13] Speaker 19: but also the general public understanding that when you see
[1:25:16] Speaker 19: an encounter this nature, start filming immediately. We can go
[1:25:20] Speaker 19: back forty years to Rodney King and people understand the
[1:25:23] Speaker 19: importance of video in these situations. I was with Reverend
[1:25:27] Speaker 19: Jackson at the Amada Aubrey hearing when the lawyer said,
[1:25:31] Speaker 19: we don't want to have Jesse Jetson here on Monday.
[1:25:33] Speaker 19: I was the person in charge of you get me
[1:25:35] Speaker 19: sure Reverend Jackson's there on Monday to walk into court
[1:25:37] Speaker 19: and talking to the jurors in those cases, it was
[1:25:40] Speaker 19: the video that was just positive because at the end
[1:25:43] Speaker 19: of the day, law enforcement still has this benefit of
[1:25:46] Speaker 19: the doubt, this still belief. There's still many people, particularly
[1:25:49] Speaker 19: white people in this country, that believe law enforcement there
[1:25:51] Speaker 19: to protect and serve, and they believe their word above
[1:25:54] Speaker 19: anything else unless you have photo and videographic evidence to
[1:25:58] Speaker 19: disprove that. Until we can somehow create some kind of
[1:26:02] Speaker 19: technology where every black boy has a drone to follows
[1:26:05] Speaker 19: in twenty four hours a day, seven minutes a week
[1:26:07] Speaker 19: to film them, we have to start working societally to
[1:26:10] Speaker 19: break down this presumption of innocence and presumptive truth on
[1:26:14] Speaker 19: the part of law enforcement. There's a reason police reports
[1:26:17] Speaker 19: are not admissible in court. They're fundamentally unreliable. They cannot
[1:26:21] Speaker 19: be trusted on their own without cooperating evidence. And this
[1:26:25] Speaker 19: is why it's so crucial that we are that we
[1:26:27] Speaker 19: get jurors, that we get a court system that believes
[1:26:31] Speaker 19: people the first time without having to have a surveillance
[1:26:34] Speaker 19: satellite overhead to prove what we're saying is trup, we've
[1:26:36] Speaker 19: got a.
[1:26:36] Speaker 2: Hair Daniel's back hair. Are you by to making a
[1:26:38] Speaker 2: point that before we got cut off?
[1:26:42] Speaker 24: Yeah, So, at no point was Conder a threat to
[1:26:44] Speaker 24: anyone or the officer. He was clearly running. We have screenshot.
[1:26:51] Speaker 24: It slowed this video down. An Express looked at it
[1:26:54] Speaker 24: and you can clearly see at the time this officer
[1:26:56] Speaker 24: discharged his fire arm, he's shooting caneers in the back.
[1:27:00] Speaker 24: One thing that stood out to us is the narrative,
[1:27:04] Speaker 24: and I think my good friend Robert Pattillo was talking
[1:27:06] Speaker 24: about that is the police support and the narrative that
[1:27:09] Speaker 24: was given initially that Kader came out of house with
[1:27:12] Speaker 24: a gun and point a gun in the crowd. Well,
[1:27:15] Speaker 24: that's simply not true. That's simply not the case. It
[1:27:17] Speaker 24: didn't happen, And that account came from the shooting officer
[1:27:21] Speaker 24: of what he said transpired. Here's the thing, it's opposition
[1:27:26] Speaker 24: that he didn't even have read a suspicion of proper costs.
[1:27:28] Speaker 8: He even gives Chase could deer.
[1:27:31] Speaker 24: The Streme Port Supreme Court the United States have made
[1:27:33] Speaker 24: it very clear right to walk away, you have the
[1:27:37] Speaker 24: right to run away. In this case, Kader was not
[1:27:40] Speaker 24: running from the police. He's running from a dog, a
[1:27:43] Speaker 24: dog that in that neighborhood. When we can say that
[1:27:45] Speaker 24: neighborhood spoke the witnesses it's a big sign on the
[1:27:48] Speaker 24: window say be aware of dog. That dog to be
[1:27:51] Speaker 24: aware of showed itself and he got away from his
[1:27:54] Speaker 24: owner and Kader took took flight and took off running.
[1:27:58] Speaker 8: Bro We don't believe Caader even knew the officer was
[1:28:00] Speaker 8: behind him.
[1:28:01] Speaker 24: So you know, we got this this thing rotting while black,
[1:28:05] Speaker 24: you know, swimming while black, shopping while black. Now you
[1:28:09] Speaker 24: got running running from a dog while black, can be
[1:28:12] Speaker 24: subjecting you to being shot in the back.
[1:28:14] Speaker 8: You know, I don't want to sell cliches, but it
[1:28:16] Speaker 8: is what it is.
[1:28:17] Speaker 24: The evidence, the autopsy, the evidence shows that he was
[1:28:21] Speaker 24: running and shotting the back, as Bishop Barber stated, and
[1:28:24] Speaker 24: this case, I've guarded a lot of attention, national attention.
[1:28:28] Speaker 8: The people at women to Delaware are protesting daily.
[1:28:31] Speaker 24: We was able to get this video release. Uh the
[1:28:34] Speaker 24: Attorney General releases video, these videos, and it shows exactly
[1:28:38] Speaker 24: what these witnesses already stated. This This is this is
[1:28:42] Speaker 24: I mean, we talked about these things being epidemics, but
[1:28:44] Speaker 24: you see it over and over again in cases that
[1:28:47] Speaker 24: myself and my colleague Benjamin Kraump and Chance Langsy, we
[1:28:50] Speaker 24: represent people across his nation, and you have these egregious
[1:28:53] Speaker 24: acts by law enforcement thinking that they can shoot a
[1:28:56] Speaker 24: black man simply because he's running, and that's not the case.
[1:29:00] Speaker 8: So we stay with his family.
[1:29:02] Speaker 24: The clergy, the national clergy, stand with his family and
[1:29:06] Speaker 24: pursue his case until we get a result for this family.
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: All right, then, Harry Daniels was stinly appreciated.
[1:29:11] Speaker 8: Thanks a lot, Thanks Roland. Take care folks.
[1:29:14] Speaker 2: Today in Chicago the NAACP Convention civilasch attorney Ben Crump
[1:29:19] Speaker 2: joined the family of Nolan Welles where they laid out
[1:29:21] Speaker 2: their fightings of an independent autopsy that was done on
[1:29:25] Speaker 2: the body of the eighteen year old here in Washington,
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: d C.
[1:29:30] Speaker 6: As in the case with Nolan Wells.
[1:29:33] Speaker 16: At the time of this report, this forensic pathologist does
[1:29:39] Speaker 16: not know the condition of Nolan Wells. He did not
[1:29:45] Speaker 16: know whether he was conscious or unconscious when he entered
[1:29:50] Speaker 16: the water.
[1:29:53] Speaker 6: He said that would be significant.
[1:29:56] Speaker 16: He said he did not know whether he was forced
[1:30:01] Speaker 16: into the water or unforced into the water.
[1:30:05] Speaker 6: He said that would be significant. So he said the
[1:30:09] Speaker 6: condition of.
[1:30:09] Speaker 16: Nolan Wells before he entered the water would be the
[1:30:15] Speaker 16: crux of the matter. It would be of utmost importance
[1:30:19] Speaker 16: to being able to determine a cause and manner of death.
[1:30:28] Speaker 16: He said, definitive circumstances of death are required to determine
[1:30:36] Speaker 16: the manner of death. For these reasons, this pathologist cannot
[1:30:43] Speaker 16: rule out.
[1:30:46] Speaker 6: And let me really call your attention to this.
[1:30:51] Speaker 16: For these reasons, this pathologists cannot rule out if any intervening,
[1:30:59] Speaker 16: non acts, incidental factors contributed to or cause the death
[1:31:06] Speaker 16: of Nolan Wells.
[1:31:09] Speaker 6: Very open, he says.
[1:31:12] Speaker 16: However, dissection of the back of the head doing the
[1:31:18] Speaker 16: layered posterior neck dissection revealed a twelve x eight inch
[1:31:26] Speaker 16: focal area a red discoloration in the deep soft tissues
[1:31:32] Speaker 16: overlaying the osippit the bone.
[1:31:37] Speaker 6: And he talked about how he found.
[1:31:46] Speaker 16: Red discoloration when he cut open into the back of
[1:31:52] Speaker 16: his head towards the osipp of the bone, and he
[1:31:57] Speaker 16: saw the red discoloration and we actually saw the pitches
[1:32:03] Speaker 16: of it.
[1:32:04] Speaker 6: It's significant.
[1:32:05] Speaker 16: You can't help but notice, why is this dark red
[1:32:11] Speaker 16: here in the back of his head.
[1:32:13] Speaker 6: And so he was important to note that in his report.
[1:32:23] Speaker 6: He said.
[1:32:26] Speaker 16: That ideology of this finding is unclear. There are no
[1:32:32] Speaker 16: lacerations of the overlaying skin nor frashes of the underlying skull.
[1:32:40] Speaker 16: These findings are inconclusive for perry mortem injury due to
[1:32:47] Speaker 16: the body due to both the extensive decomposition and the
[1:32:53] Speaker 16: absence of associated injuries. This finding, however, it's significant enough
[1:33:02] Speaker 16: to be highlighted in this preliminary report for further investigation.
[1:33:11] Speaker 16: It is important to reiterate that the finding could not
[1:33:15] Speaker 16: have been observed in the first autopsy because the posterior
[1:33:22] Speaker 16: head and neck discession.
[1:33:24] Speaker 10: Were not.
[1:33:27] Speaker 2: Performed.
[1:33:31] Speaker 6: He said.
[1:33:32] Speaker 16: Another limitation, thank you. Another limitation faced by this forensic
[1:33:38] Speaker 16: pathologist was the absence of the anterior internal neck structures.
[1:33:45] Speaker 16: The trachea and the laryngaal cartilage, the thyroid horn, and
[1:33:53] Speaker 16: the hyoid bone were not received with the body.
[1:34:00] Speaker 6: So he said that the throat.
[1:34:06] Speaker 16: Was not received with the body when he got Nolan
[1:34:12] Speaker 16: Wells's body in Washington, d C. To perform the second autopsy.
[1:34:18] Speaker 16: And so let's discuss that with whether he said about that.
[1:34:26] Speaker 16: He said, it is assumed that the initial pathologists retained
[1:34:30] Speaker 16: these structures for additional evaluation. He said, the retention of
[1:34:36] Speaker 16: the anterior next structures doing an initial autopsy is a
[1:34:42] Speaker 16: common forensic pathology practice. He was chief medical Examiner for
[1:34:47] Speaker 16: seven years in Washington, d C. And he said that
[1:34:51] Speaker 16: if they had concerned about throat or any frash or
[1:34:56] Speaker 16: compression of the throat, they too would hold them back
[1:35:00] Speaker 16: and know why they held the throat back. But he
[1:35:02] Speaker 16: said the throat was not with the body of Nolan
[1:35:05] Speaker 16: Wells when he received it in Washington, d C. To
[1:35:10] Speaker 16: performed the second autopsy. He said, Nevertheless, a posterior neck
[1:35:19] Speaker 16: dissection performed without review of the anterior neck structures is incomplete. Therefore,
[1:35:28] Speaker 16: this pathologist cannot rule out injury to the neck as
[1:35:33] Speaker 16: a contributing a contributor on a cause of death. He
[1:35:38] Speaker 16: said he would need to have the medical examiner in
[1:35:44] Speaker 16: Mississippi allow him to review the throat. That's why he
[1:35:49] Speaker 16: said his autopsy is undetermined pending investigation.
[1:35:54] Speaker 6: Remember us about transparency, folks.
[1:35:58] Speaker 2: So it's very interesting looking at some of the comments
[1:36:02] Speaker 2: from people trying to understand what took place as to
[1:36:04] Speaker 2: why they went to Chicago. Let me help some people out.
[1:36:07] Speaker 2: Nolan Wills was killed in DC. Excuse me, killed in Mississippi.
[1:36:12] Speaker 2: The NAACP Nascovitches is in Chicago. Emmett till Is from
[1:36:18] Speaker 2: Chicago was killed in Mississippi. So again, if you understand
[1:36:23] Speaker 2: the history of the NAACP. They've long been involved in
[1:36:26] Speaker 2: cases like this, So I don't understand why people and
[1:36:29] Speaker 2: I am totally befuddled about the sheer stupidity of people
[1:36:32] Speaker 2: on threads in Twitter who are complaining about Ben Crump. Oh,
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: we don't like how he talks. He doesn't win cases.
[1:36:38] Speaker 2: It's like they have no idea what the hell happens
[1:36:41] Speaker 2: in these cases. And we reached out to doctor Mitchell
[1:36:43] Speaker 2: the Joints on the show, but he declined because it's
[1:36:45] Speaker 2: an ongoing investigation. And again we've been covering this and
[1:36:50] Speaker 2: Robert again, it's a lot of conversation. People have a
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: lot of conversation, but it is an ongoing investigation, and
[1:37:00] Speaker 2: so what we are continuing to see is trying to
[1:37:03] Speaker 2: get answers as to what.
[1:37:05] Speaker 6: The hell happened.
[1:37:07] Speaker 19: And I think that's what's most important in this case,
[1:37:09] Speaker 19: these questions. I've spoke with the family of Kendrick Johnson recently,
[1:37:13] Speaker 19: who had very similar circumstance of a young black man
[1:37:16] Speaker 19: who ends up dead and mysteriously nobody knows anything about
[1:37:20] Speaker 19: what has happened to anybody. Everyone gets real quired. You're
[1:37:23] Speaker 19: dealing with small town politics, small town law enforcement, small
[1:37:27] Speaker 19: town judges, et cetera, and the families often end up
[1:37:30] Speaker 19: never getting justice and never getting satisfactory answer. And this
[1:37:34] Speaker 19: is what is so significant right now about not having
[1:37:36] Speaker 19: an operational Department of Justice. There's one thing to see
[1:37:39] Speaker 19: what they're doing with the Epstein files, what they're doing
[1:37:42] Speaker 19: with other investigators, but not having an operational our Division
[1:37:47] Speaker 19: of Civil Rights in the Justice Department is perhaps the
[1:37:50] Speaker 19: most tragic part of what's going on with this extreme
[1:37:52] Speaker 19: MAGA agenda. Because we normally would have a federal backstop
[1:37:56] Speaker 19: where local jurisdictions were in transigent, local officials were recalcitrend,
[1:38:02] Speaker 19: you'd have the Department of Justice and the FBI that
[1:38:05] Speaker 19: can step in, as you saw with Chaining and Schwerner
[1:38:08] Speaker 19: and Gruder in the nineteen sixties. Now this is going
[1:38:12] Speaker 19: to be very much on the family and on outside
[1:38:15] Speaker 19: organizations to donate to not only determine what happened with
[1:38:20] Speaker 19: this autopsy, but find out what happened in that crucial
[1:38:22] Speaker 19: first forty eight hours, to determine how exactly that the
[1:38:25] Speaker 19: messages get deleted off his phone, what pictures or videos
[1:38:29] Speaker 19: are still out there on some cloud or some cell
[1:38:31] Speaker 19: phone that might be this positive where exactly this young
[1:38:34] Speaker 19: boys throw it at and how is that missing from
[1:38:37] Speaker 19: the body? There are more questions are being raised by
[1:38:39] Speaker 19: the day and the compulsion of local jurisdiction to simply
[1:38:44] Speaker 19: try to sweep these things under the rug. We've seen
[1:38:46] Speaker 19: time and time again that once you start shining light
[1:38:48] Speaker 19: on this, once you start bringing national attention, you get answers.
[1:38:52] Speaker 19: And the fact that we don't have the Department of Justice,
[1:38:54] Speaker 19: our FBI right now that can help us means that
[1:38:57] Speaker 19: we have to depend on ourselves to fight this fight, Rebecca,
[1:39:03] Speaker 19: So you know, I want to shout.
[1:39:04] Speaker 7: Out doctor Roger Minchell. He is the only black male
[1:39:09] Speaker 7: chief medical examiner in the country. I'm going to say
[1:39:12] Speaker 7: that again. He is the only black male chief medical
[1:39:16] Speaker 7: examiner in the country. And because of his scientific knowledge
[1:39:20] Speaker 7: and because of his medical training, he has really pushed
[1:39:24] Speaker 7: the envelope for civil rights and for making sure that
[1:39:27] Speaker 7: black and brown families, especially black families.
[1:39:29] Speaker 12: Receive answers.
[1:39:30] Speaker 7: That is the very reason why Nolan's body came here
[1:39:34] Speaker 7: to DC, because this is where doctor Roger Minchell resides.
[1:39:40] Speaker 7: And I think it's important to say that because this
[1:39:42] Speaker 7: is another reason why we need more black people going
[1:39:45] Speaker 7: into that particular profession.
[1:39:47] Speaker 12: I've sat on panels with him where he's.
[1:39:50] Speaker 7: Gone through the criminal legal system, and he's talked about
[1:39:54] Speaker 7: deaths while people were incarcerated, and oftentimes he went into
[1:39:58] Speaker 7: those prisons, and he is able to conduct many of
[1:40:02] Speaker 7: those autopsies to show that there's been systemic issues, especially
[1:40:06] Speaker 7: towards black people, black men who are incarcerated and who
[1:40:12] Speaker 7: die in custody. But that said, yes, Robert's right, there's
[1:40:17] Speaker 7: so many questions that are left. Even the question about
[1:40:20] Speaker 7: the throat. I heard a medical doctor speak on it earlier,
[1:40:24] Speaker 7: saying that sometimes if you're still doing an investigation, then
[1:40:28] Speaker 7: certain body parts might not go to the second and
[1:40:32] Speaker 7: to the second or third or to the subsequent medical
[1:40:37] Speaker 7: examiner examining the body. However, doctor Roger Mitchell did this
[1:40:42] Speaker 7: examination I think at least ten days ago, and we've
[1:40:47] Speaker 7: seen that this autopsy has been released.
[1:40:49] Speaker 12: Mississippi has had it longer.
[1:40:51] Speaker 7: So even if they were keeping the throat longer to
[1:40:53] Speaker 7: content to pursue additional investigation, why haven't that information been
[1:40:59] Speaker 7: made public? Why hasn't that then been shipped to DC
[1:41:03] Speaker 7: for doctor Mitchell to complete his examination of the body.
[1:41:07] Speaker 11: There's too many questions, and.
[1:41:10] Speaker 12: We know and I know there are different Like I'm
[1:41:14] Speaker 12: an attorney.
[1:41:14] Speaker 11: I know there's many attorneys who are.
[1:41:16] Speaker 7: Reluctant to provide a conclusion on this, and that's responsible.
[1:41:20] Speaker 7: But I will say this, having my family been in
[1:41:24] Speaker 7: this country for centuries and seeing things like this happen
[1:41:27] Speaker 7: over and over. The ancestors are speaking here, and I
[1:41:32] Speaker 7: don't think that it was just a simple accident in
[1:41:35] Speaker 7: the way in which the initial reports are within an
[1:41:39] Speaker 7: hour the sheriff's department saying, oh, there's no there's no
[1:41:42] Speaker 7: foul play found. How can you say that when the
[1:41:44] Speaker 7: body is still barely cold, when there hasn't been public
[1:41:49] Speaker 7: findings from the original autopsy.
[1:41:53] Speaker 10: Derek, Yeah, I'm gonna pick up where Rebecca left off.
[1:41:57] Speaker 20: I mean, it was problematic for me, as a father
[1:42:01] Speaker 20: of seven, four daughters and three sons, to hear a
[1:42:03] Speaker 20: sheriff to say there's.
[1:42:05] Speaker 10: No foul play here. How was there no foul play?
[1:42:09] Speaker 20: Because if the roads were reversed Roland, if there was
[1:42:13] Speaker 20: three young black men and one white boy, four went
[1:42:18] Speaker 20: over and three came back, their cell phones would have
[1:42:23] Speaker 20: been confiscated. They would have been interrogated for hours on end.
[1:42:30] Speaker 20: It would have been a thorough investigation from beginning to end.
[1:42:34] Speaker 20: And so this has been problematic from the time the
[1:42:37] Speaker 20: sheriff said there's no foul play. And I get all
[1:42:40] Speaker 20: the other players that the parents of the other three boys,
[1:42:44] Speaker 20: they're very strong and political in nature.
[1:42:47] Speaker 10: But what about Nolan Wells family. I'm gonna keep coming
[1:42:51] Speaker 10: back to that.
[1:42:52] Speaker 20: We continue to watch this two tier justice system from
[1:42:57] Speaker 20: sixteen nineteen to twenty twenty six.
[1:43:00] Speaker 10: How many times do we need to say Roland, enough
[1:43:03] Speaker 10: is enough?
[1:43:04] Speaker 20: And that's the part that from Kadeer Skinner, Eric Gardner,
[1:43:09] Speaker 20: Brionna Taylor, the list continues. These families demand justice and
[1:43:15] Speaker 20: when you continue to have more questions that answers, we
[1:43:19] Speaker 20: want to get the response that we currently.
[1:43:20] Speaker 2: Have in d Indeed, for us, we will to continue
[1:43:23] Speaker 2: to cover this story, give you the latest and again,
[1:43:27] Speaker 2: how many people understand there's a lot of conversation around this.
[1:43:34] Speaker 2: We don't have much information. We don't have much information,
[1:43:39] Speaker 2: so our objective is to give you real credible information.
[1:43:44] Speaker 2: So whatever's the latest, what's new, will actually have that
[1:43:47] Speaker 2: for you. Gotta go to the break, we come back.
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[1:45:33] Speaker 7: This week on the other side of change in black life,
[1:45:36] Speaker 7: black death, and a country that was never built for us,
[1:45:39] Speaker 7: as we are talking about eighteen year old Nolan Wells,
[1:45:42] Speaker 7: his family search for answers and.
[1:45:44] Speaker 12: The way that our own trauma is showing up in
[1:45:46] Speaker 12: how we are reacting.
[1:45:48] Speaker 2: To the new Where it was Nolan in the ninety
[1:45:50] Speaker 2: minutes between when you're claiming you last saw him and
[1:45:52] Speaker 2: when you actually left the island, Because ninety minutes is
[1:45:56] Speaker 2: a lot of time. So where was he?
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[1:46:29] Speaker 2: Representative James Celerrico, the Democratic Caniffery Dynas state senator, held
[1:46:34] Speaker 2: forums in Houston and Dallas speaking to black voters. We
[1:46:37] Speaker 2: extreamly event in Dallas on Monday's show. He of course
[1:46:42] Speaker 2: is running against the corrupt Texas a trained General Ken Paxton,
[1:46:47] Speaker 2: and obviously black voters are key. Texas has more eligible
[1:46:50] Speaker 2: black voters in this state than any state in the country. Well,
[1:46:56] Speaker 2: Texas Governor Greg Abbott decides to go on Fox News
[1:47:00] Speaker 2: and weigh in on this very issue in terms of
[1:47:04] Speaker 2: tall Rico and black voters. Do you believe the radicalism
[1:47:08] Speaker 2: of tell Rico is getting out there?
[1:47:12] Speaker 10: Has it entered the consciousness of most voters in Texas.
[1:47:17] Speaker 6: Not adequately?
[1:47:18] Speaker 22: The fact of the matter is tell Rico has been
[1:47:20] Speaker 22: on a tour across the state of Texas lying to
[1:47:23] Speaker 22: Texans about who he is and what his record is.
[1:47:25] Speaker 22: The fact of the matter is, if you just look
[1:47:27] Speaker 22: at the votes that he has cast in the Texas Legislature,
[1:47:30] Speaker 22: he is either the or a second most liberal leftist
[1:47:34] Speaker 22: progressive in the Texas Legislature, advocating all those ideas that
[1:47:38] Speaker 22: you just mentioned there in your comments. The fact is
[1:47:41] Speaker 22: also you saw him be asked that question about cross
[1:47:44] Speaker 22: dressing by African Americans. The fact of the matter is
[1:47:47] Speaker 22: his beliefs about transgender ideology are contrary to where the
[1:47:52] Speaker 22: vast majority of the Black community is in Texas and
[1:47:55] Speaker 22: probably across the entire country. Tall Rico has a problem
[1:47:58] Speaker 22: with the Black community that goes back to the time
[1:48:00] Speaker 22: when there was the divide between Tall Rico and Jasmine Crockett.
[1:48:03] Speaker 22: But also that divide is fundamental ideological because the Black
[1:48:08] Speaker 22: community doesn't support these transgender ideas. The Black community is
[1:48:12] Speaker 22: heavily connected to faith and religion, and they are against
[1:48:18] Speaker 22: all of his ideas about sanctuary city policies and welcoming
[1:48:22] Speaker 22: people from coming across the border illegally.
[1:48:24] Speaker 10: They say, what.
[1:48:25] Speaker 6: About our community? We've been here all along.
[1:48:27] Speaker 22: Why are you giving free things away to these people
[1:48:30] Speaker 22: crossing the border illegally.
[1:48:32] Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't realize that Greg Abbot cares so much
[1:48:35] Speaker 2: about black people. That's interesting because considering Black people in
[1:48:40] Speaker 2: Texas despise Greg Abbot and his policies.
[1:48:44] Speaker 6: Now.
[1:48:44] Speaker 2: He referenced the question being asked about transgender at the
[1:48:49] Speaker 2: town hall the black note it wasn't black voters that
[1:48:53] Speaker 2: asked the question, It was a black woman that asked
[1:48:56] Speaker 2: the question who happens to be a Republican. Yeah, she
[1:49:00] Speaker 2: actually was outed later on as to who she is.
[1:49:04] Speaker 2: And so again here he is running his mouth on this.
[1:49:08] Speaker 18: Well.
[1:49:09] Speaker 2: Congressman Christian Minifie of Houston decided to weigh in on this,
[1:49:13] Speaker 2: and this is what he said on Twitter. He said,
[1:49:17] Speaker 2: running congressman out of Texas. Here running down Greg Abbott's
[1:49:20] Speaker 2: rap sheet with black Texans for those who aren't familiar.
[1:49:24] Speaker 2: Signed a male ballot law that got black voters rejected
[1:49:27] Speaker 2: at far higher rates than white voters. Pushed a voter
[1:49:30] Speaker 2: id law struck down as racial discriminatory by one of
[1:49:34] Speaker 2: the most conservative appeals courts in the country. Redrew our
[1:49:37] Speaker 2: congressional map and eliminated a black district in Houston. Also
[1:49:41] Speaker 2: a black district in Dallas. Ended race conscious hiring at
[1:49:45] Speaker 2: state agencies and universities appointed the guy who killed the
[1:49:48] Speaker 2: state's minority owned business certification program. Refuses to expand Medicaid,
[1:49:53] Speaker 2: leaving over a million low income Texas mostly black and Hispanic,
[1:49:57] Speaker 2: without health insurance. Banned schools from teaching about out institutional racism.
[1:50:01] Speaker 2: Parton a bigot who murdered a black activist but wouldn't
[1:50:06] Speaker 2: give George Floyd a posthumous parton even after his own
[1:50:09] Speaker 2: parole board recommended it. Left Texas eighteen, a historically black district,
[1:50:14] Speaker 2: without a voice in Congress for nearly a year, sued
[1:50:17] Speaker 2: by the NAACP over voting restrictions again and again. Greg Abbot,
[1:50:22] Speaker 2: that's your record. You don't get to speak for black Texans.
[1:50:24] Speaker 2: We all know you couldn't care less about us, and
[1:50:27] Speaker 2: you actively harm our communities. Set this one out. Joining
[1:50:31] Speaker 2: me right now is Isaiah Martin, political commentator, content creator.
[1:50:35] Speaker 2: Glad to have you here. Let me also remind people
[1:50:38] Speaker 2: that the Biden administration was set the Department of Hood
[1:50:42] Speaker 2: was set to sue Texas because they actually held back
[1:50:47] Speaker 2: a billion dollars from Harris County and said that hurt
[1:50:51] Speaker 2: low income communities. Isaiah, you're there in Houston. He ran
[1:50:55] Speaker 2: for Congress. I'm born and raised in Houston. Greg Abbot,
[1:50:59] Speaker 2: who also what they was pissed off with a black
[1:51:02] Speaker 2: mayor in Houston and Sylvester Turner, a Hispanic woman county
[1:51:07] Speaker 2: judge Leenahdalgo, and so they purposely targeted Harris County with
[1:51:11] Speaker 2: hell resources and those sort of different things. So Greg Abbott,
[1:51:16] Speaker 2: don't give a damn about Black Texans.
[1:51:20] Speaker 25: Absolutely not, And I just think that it's absolutely hilarious
[1:51:23] Speaker 25: for him to position himself as any type of authority
[1:51:26] Speaker 25: on this issue whatsoever, because everywhere I go, Black Texans
[1:51:30] Speaker 25: and just Texans in general, whenever I visit Houston, say
[1:51:34] Speaker 25: that they're sick of these price increases as a result
[1:51:36] Speaker 25: of the terrorists that Trump is put on everything. They're
[1:51:39] Speaker 25: sick of the factor we're fighting a dumb war because
[1:51:41] Speaker 25: Trump went and got us into it. Now, ultimately, Greg
[1:51:44] Speaker 25: Abbott has his hand in all these things because he's
[1:51:47] Speaker 25: supported candidates that are rubber stamps on all of these
[1:51:50] Speaker 25: policies and has been.
[1:51:51] Speaker 15: Absolutely a disaster.
[1:51:53] Speaker 25: So look, I think that Texans across of all sides
[1:51:56] Speaker 25: of the spectrum see that Greg Abbott is certainly not
[1:52:00] Speaker 25: to be able to comment on any of that stuff
[1:52:02] Speaker 25: because he's supported people that have made this economy worse
[1:52:04] Speaker 25: and he himself is pushing policies that makes this economy
[1:52:08] Speaker 25: a lot worse for everybody.
[1:52:09] Speaker 2: Great Abba also supported a corrupt attorney general who his
[1:52:13] Speaker 2: own Republicans wanted to impeach.
[1:52:16] Speaker 25: That's right, I mean, you know how bad you got
[1:52:19] Speaker 25: to be to get impeached by your own party in Texas.
[1:52:21] Speaker 25: I mean, Texas has some of the most extreme Republicans
[1:52:24] Speaker 25: known the man. And if they are trying to impeach
[1:52:27] Speaker 25: someone like Ken Paxon, I think that speaks a lot
[1:52:29] Speaker 25: about what kind of person is.
[1:52:33] Speaker 2: Talk about what Tella Rico has to do. First of all,
[1:52:37] Speaker 2: the Pole came out showing that he's performing better among
[1:52:40] Speaker 2: African Americans then better or work was at this time
[1:52:44] Speaker 2: than Congressman and then Congressman Colin already. And so as
[1:52:49] Speaker 2: anybody who understands when you run, especially statewide, there's a
[1:52:52] Speaker 2: build up to how you begin to reach out. He
[1:52:56] Speaker 2: announced he's going to be investing some twenty five million
[1:52:58] Speaker 2: dollars in African America. Can turn out in different ways,
[1:53:03] Speaker 2: and so how would you assess thus far this black outreach?
[1:53:09] Speaker 25: You know, look, I think that he has done. You know,
[1:53:13] Speaker 25: he's working to expand his coalition. When I talk to
[1:53:16] Speaker 25: my friends, I think that they sound very clear that
[1:53:19] Speaker 25: they don't want to put someone on in the Senate
[1:53:21] Speaker 25: that's going to rubber stamp of another Clarence Thomas getting
[1:53:24] Speaker 25: on the court. I mean, that's really I think a
[1:53:26] Speaker 25: top of mine issues. So look, I think that tall
[1:53:28] Speaker 25: Rico has got to go out there and reach people
[1:53:31] Speaker 25: from all sides of the state. But I think the
[1:53:34] Speaker 25: ultimate reality here is that black voters time and time
[1:53:37] Speaker 25: again have understood the threats that Republicans have put up,
[1:53:41] Speaker 25: and I think they're going to make that same determination again.
[1:53:43] Speaker 25: I think Tall Rico has got to get into more
[1:53:45] Speaker 25: black churches. I think he's got to be able to
[1:53:47] Speaker 25: go and reach people that don't go to church as well.
[1:53:50] Speaker 25: But also, you know, I just think that the message
[1:53:53] Speaker 25: is one of the principal focuses of being in the
[1:53:57] Speaker 25: United States Senate is appointing people to the Supreme Court.
[1:54:01] Speaker 25: If someone like Kim Paxson gets in there, he will
[1:54:04] Speaker 25: put another Clarence Thomas on the court.
[1:54:06] Speaker 15: What does that mean? More rollbacks of the protections that have.
[1:54:11] Speaker 25: Prevented a lot of the cancer, you know, the pollution
[1:54:15] Speaker 25: inside of our neighborhoods. It's going to result in someone
[1:54:18] Speaker 25: who's gonna rubber stamp and all these tarifts set goes forward.
[1:54:21] Speaker 15: That is a principal focus, and I know that Tall
[1:54:24] Speaker 15: Rico will vote.
[1:54:24] Speaker 25: Against any of these judges that someone like Trump puts
[1:54:28] Speaker 25: up there.
[1:54:29] Speaker 15: Boom forward.
[1:54:29] Speaker 2: Well, it was also more hilarious here's Abbott talking about
[1:54:33] Speaker 2: where Tall Rico is in Black Texans and Ken Paxton,
[1:54:36] Speaker 2: his entire agenda has been putting a bulls out on
[1:54:41] Speaker 2: black people. Ken Paxon has not been a friend to
[1:54:44] Speaker 2: Black Texans. And if he's in the United States Senate,
[1:54:47] Speaker 2: he damn sure is not going to support civil rights.
[1:54:51] Speaker 2: He's not going to support expansion of opportunities for black businesses.
[1:54:54] Speaker 2: And we can go down the line on things that
[1:54:56] Speaker 2: he will not be supporting at all.
[1:55:00] Speaker 25: That's right, I mean one hundred percent, whether it's it's
[1:55:03] Speaker 25: supporting language and contracts that help black businesses go and
[1:55:06] Speaker 25: get additional contracts. You know, that's a really big focus
[1:55:10] Speaker 25: of legislators, particularly in Congress, to go create these grant
[1:55:13] Speaker 25: programs that are available for people. So ultimately, Kim Paxson
[1:55:18] Speaker 25: will be no friend to the black community. I think
[1:55:19] Speaker 25: that people will understand that very clearly. But it's just
[1:55:22] Speaker 25: making sure that that message gets communicated to people. But
[1:55:25] Speaker 25: you know, the other thing is that I think it's
[1:55:27] Speaker 25: important to yes call out the things that Kim Paxson
[1:55:31] Speaker 25: that we are against a Kim packs and supports, but
[1:55:33] Speaker 25: also talk about the things that Tall Rico can do
[1:55:35] Speaker 25: for US, Tallarico will be a vote to go and
[1:55:38] Speaker 25: expand their Affordable Care Act, which is going to reduce
[1:55:40] Speaker 25: prices for US folks at home. Because we already know
[1:55:43] Speaker 25: that health insurance premiums are up by more than twenty
[1:55:45] Speaker 25: six percent this year. We know that tall Rico will
[1:55:48] Speaker 25: be a vote against these ridiculous tariffs that are raising
[1:55:51] Speaker 25: costs at the grocery store for business owners and everything else.
[1:55:54] Speaker 25: That's something that is going to go and save people
[1:55:56] Speaker 25: money directly. So I think it's important to talk about, yes,
[1:56:00] Speaker 25: why we don't like Kim Paxson, but voting for Taller
[1:56:02] Speaker 25: Rico is also going to put more money in your
[1:56:04] Speaker 25: pocket by supporting policies that's going to do that for affordability.
[1:56:09] Speaker 2: And just in case folks don't realize this, the Texas
[1:56:14] Speaker 2: Public Opinion Research poll came out and Gina Hinojosa, who's
[1:56:19] Speaker 2: running against Greg Abbot for governor, there's a fifty seven
[1:56:23] Speaker 2: point difference between her and Abbot among African Americans. So,
[1:56:29] Speaker 2: Greg Abbot, you have a black problem.
[1:56:34] Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, he one percent does, and he always has.
[1:56:38] Speaker 25: I mean that's the thing, like, you know, the belief
[1:56:40] Speaker 25: that anybody would go listen to Greg Abbott on Fox
[1:56:43] Speaker 25: News and say that, Wow, you know, this is a
[1:56:45] Speaker 25: guy who's a champion for black voters.
[1:56:47] Speaker 15: It's just absurd, you know, it's just the audacity of
[1:56:49] Speaker 15: this guy.
[1:56:49] Speaker 25: But like I said, I know that black voters see
[1:56:52] Speaker 25: through this stuff, and I think that ultimately going out
[1:56:55] Speaker 25: there communicating an affirmative vision for what people will get
[1:56:59] Speaker 25: with some I'm like tall Rico in the Senate and
[1:57:01] Speaker 25: Jennhnahosts in the governor's mansion, I think it's gonna be
[1:57:03] Speaker 25: really important moving forward.
[1:57:05] Speaker 2: One of the things that I have tried to also
[1:57:07] Speaker 2: make clear to people is that listen, the primary is
[1:57:10] Speaker 2: in March. There are a lot of folks who supported
[1:57:13] Speaker 2: corisbin Jasmin Crockett, and look, I voted for I got
[1:57:17] Speaker 2: no problem actually saying it. She was my member of Congress.
[1:57:19] Speaker 2: I'm still registered in a thirdeth Congression of district in Texas.
[1:57:23] Speaker 2: But the reality is she lost. She lost. The primiery
[1:57:26] Speaker 2: is over, you know, a general election, and so now
[1:57:29] Speaker 2: the question is who's a Democratic candidate, who's Republican candidate,
[1:57:32] Speaker 2: and which of those people are going to be in
[1:57:34] Speaker 2: the best interest of black voters. To me, it ain't
[1:57:37] Speaker 2: even a conversation between Talla Rico and Paxton, like, ain't
[1:57:41] Speaker 2: even a conversation. I mean, Paxton can't even figure out
[1:57:45] Speaker 2: what house he votes from, but he wants to talk
[1:57:47] Speaker 2: about voter fraud. But the thing, and so what has
[1:57:51] Speaker 2: been offensive to me is listing to people who ain't
[1:57:54] Speaker 2: even from Texas, okay, including black folks, weighing in and
[1:57:58] Speaker 2: essentially telling black folk, yeah, we're good if Paxton wins
[1:58:03] Speaker 2: wins support in Tela Rico. And I'm like, first of all,
[1:58:05] Speaker 2: who the fuck is we? Here's what I know. My
[1:58:10] Speaker 2: seventy nine year old daddy and my mama will be
[1:58:13] Speaker 2: seventy nine in November, living in Texas. My brother, his wife,
[1:58:19] Speaker 2: two kids still in Texas. My sister, her husband and
[1:58:24] Speaker 2: her four kids still in Texas. My sister and her
[1:58:29] Speaker 2: husband and her two kids still in Texas. Of my
[1:58:34] Speaker 2: thirteen nieces and nephews, twelve of them are still in Texas.
[1:58:39] Speaker 2: So I need people who are not from Texas to
[1:58:43] Speaker 2: frankly shut the fuck up when talking about these races,
[1:58:47] Speaker 2: because it is is. You can bring in Gaza, you
[1:58:51] Speaker 2: can bring in Israel, you can bring in financial, you
[1:58:55] Speaker 2: can live foreign a, you can bring what's happening in
[1:58:58] Speaker 2: the wrong. You can bring in all all these things,
[1:59:01] Speaker 2: but as a fifty as a fifty seven year old
[1:59:04] Speaker 2: native Texan, I see what the hell is going on
[1:59:08] Speaker 2: in my home state, and damn Ken Paxton being my
[1:59:13] Speaker 2: nexture out of state senator, I know that's right.
[1:59:17] Speaker 25: I mean I think that ultimately, like you said, the
[1:59:20] Speaker 25: primary is over. It is never going to change. So
[1:59:24] Speaker 25: the reality is is that the choices between Kim Paxson
[1:59:27] Speaker 25: and James Salarico. And so look, you know, you got
[1:59:30] Speaker 25: a lot of people from all parts of the country
[1:59:33] Speaker 25: that want to opine or whatever. But until you've gone
[1:59:36] Speaker 25: and you've met that person that lives inside of Trinity
[1:59:40] Speaker 25: Gardens that is faced with cancer clusters as a result
[1:59:43] Speaker 25: of Republican policies and deregulation that's allowed these companies to
[1:59:47] Speaker 25: go and pollute our air and drinking water and everything else.
[1:59:50] Speaker 25: And tell someone's actually met someone like that, I don't
[1:59:53] Speaker 25: think they really should be really opening. And the reality
[1:59:56] Speaker 25: is putting someone like Kim Paxson is going to endanger
[1:59:59] Speaker 25: the lives everybody that lives in Texas.
[2:00:01] Speaker 15: It's really just that simple. And I'll tell you what.
[2:00:03] Speaker 25: Putting another Clarence Thomas on the court for literally forty
[2:00:07] Speaker 25: more years is going to be quite literally the most
[2:00:10] Speaker 25: disastrous thing that anybody could have ever imagined. So, look,
[2:00:14] Speaker 25: it's a binary choice you've got between James Talerico, Orkin Paxson.
[2:00:19] Speaker 25: I think that the person that's going to be a
[2:00:20] Speaker 25: vote against Tarot's a vote against the next Clarence Thomas,
[2:00:23] Speaker 25: A vote to make sure that we can expand the
[2:00:25] Speaker 25: Affordable Care Act to go and make sure that healthcare
[2:00:28] Speaker 25: is given to everybody, A vote to make sure that
[2:00:30] Speaker 25: we protect Social Security and expand it instead of trying
[2:00:33] Speaker 25: to constantly take it away. That is exponentially better than
[2:00:36] Speaker 25: someone who's going to vote to cent trillions of more
[2:00:38] Speaker 25: tax dollars to the richest people on oath, vote to
[2:00:41] Speaker 25: go and send us into more war that's going to
[2:00:44] Speaker 25: cost the American taxpayer more and more money, and someone
[2:00:47] Speaker 25: who's absolutely going to go forward and continue the rampage
[2:00:51] Speaker 25: against black owned businesses American businesses in general. I think
[2:00:54] Speaker 25: that's a no brainer, and we cannot allow for folks
[2:00:58] Speaker 25: that are paid agitators to try to go and make
[2:01:01] Speaker 25: mess that point up. You know, I think that even
[2:01:04] Speaker 25: if you look even further during the presidential election. We
[2:01:07] Speaker 25: understood that the choice was between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
[2:01:12] Speaker 15: Look at the effects of what that's done.
[2:01:14] Speaker 25: A vote for sitting on the sidelines has resulted in
[2:01:18] Speaker 25: more price raises, that's resulted in the destruction of the
[2:01:20] Speaker 25: American economy, and has absolutely pushed our allies further and
[2:01:23] Speaker 25: further away. That choice is now upon Texas voters. You
[2:01:27] Speaker 25: cannot allow for disagreements in a primary to change whether
[2:01:32] Speaker 25: or not you're going to vote for someone who agrees
[2:01:33] Speaker 25: with you on ninety five percent of the issues. James
[2:01:37] Speaker 25: Salerco is the obvious choice to me to go to
[2:01:39] Speaker 25: the United States Senate, and I think that Texans have
[2:01:42] Speaker 25: to go and vote accordingly in November.
[2:01:44] Speaker 2: Go to my pound, Derek you first, Yeah, this is Isaiah.
[2:01:50] Speaker 10: I certainly agree with you and my dear brother.
[2:01:54] Speaker 8: But my question is this right?
[2:01:57] Speaker 20: Because Texas is could be very pivotal when you think
[2:02:03] Speaker 20: about tuler Rico win in and that one senencee can
[2:02:07] Speaker 20: influence and impact in the entire United States. What can
[2:02:11] Speaker 20: we do in the other Southern states because we have
[2:02:15] Speaker 20: our fight over here in Georgia trying to get us
[2:02:18] Speaker 20: off to reelect it. What can we do to collaborate
[2:02:22] Speaker 20: between Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, Gary Chambers doing his tam I
[2:02:27] Speaker 20: think their strength if we collaborate along these eleven southern states.
[2:02:38] Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, I absolutely agree with that.
[2:02:39] Speaker 25: I think that you know, they've got John Ossoff has
[2:02:43] Speaker 25: been a great senator in Georgia. You know, Jamie Davis
[2:02:45] Speaker 25: is running for the United States Senate in Louisiana. I
[2:02:48] Speaker 25: think that there has to be support there, and I
[2:02:50] Speaker 25: think there also has to be support for Taller Rico.
[2:02:52] Speaker 25: I think there has to be a slate because we
[2:02:53] Speaker 25: have to understand that all three of these candidates have
[2:02:56] Speaker 25: something in common. There are against the tariffs that are
[2:02:59] Speaker 25: raising prices Formurricans. They're against what's being done to get
[2:03:03] Speaker 25: rid of the ACA substutes that's making you at home
[2:03:05] Speaker 25: pay more for things. So understanding that if you like Aso,
[2:03:08] Speaker 25: well you're also going to like Jamie Davis. You're also
[2:03:11] Speaker 25: going to like James Salerico because they support policies that's.
[2:03:13] Speaker 15: Going to put more money in your pocket. I think
[2:03:15] Speaker 15: we have to communicate that to folks far and wide.
[2:03:19] Speaker 7: Rebecca Hey, Isaiah, I hear your analysis, but I don't
[2:03:25] Speaker 7: think it addresses some of the data and some of
[2:03:29] Speaker 7: the focus groups that Terrence Woodberry has been producing over
[2:03:33] Speaker 7: the last couple of years for people who do plan
[2:03:36] Speaker 7: to vote, looking at the choice between Tallerico versus Paxton. Okay, cool, right,
[2:03:44] Speaker 7: I understand that. But there are people who have done
[2:03:47] Speaker 7: all the right things. They showed up to vote, their
[2:03:49] Speaker 7: life hasn't gotten better. They went to school, they got
[2:03:52] Speaker 7: a bunch of debt, they vote, and it's still hard
[2:03:56] Speaker 7: making ends meet. There are people who are literally dealing
[2:04:00] Speaker 7: with life and death issues right now, people who are.
[2:04:02] Speaker 12: Trying to figure out where their next meal is going
[2:04:04] Speaker 12: to come from.
[2:04:05] Speaker 7: And so, even though yes, I lead a national voting organization,
[2:04:08] Speaker 7: I understand voting is a privilege. It's a privilege when
[2:04:13] Speaker 7: you're going into the ballot box house what you're thinking
[2:04:15] Speaker 7: about versus there are other people.
[2:04:17] Speaker 12: There are people who.
[2:04:18] Speaker 7: Are dealing with major life issues and voting doesn't make
[2:04:22] Speaker 7: their top ten. So for those people, what is the
[2:04:26] Speaker 7: messaging for those people for why they should still participate
[2:04:30] Speaker 7: in the system that hasn't been delivering for them.
[2:04:35] Speaker 25: Well, first and foremost, I would say that without voting,
[2:04:37] Speaker 25: we never would have gotten the affordable character across the
[2:04:40] Speaker 25: finish line. And I know about a time in which
[2:04:42] Speaker 25: people were kicked off of their health insurance if they
[2:04:45] Speaker 25: had a pre existing condition. At one point, pregnancy was
[2:04:48] Speaker 25: considered a pre existing condition, so many people were not
[2:04:51] Speaker 25: able to get healthcare. But because people organize and because
[2:04:54] Speaker 25: people were voted, President Obama was able to get into
[2:04:56] Speaker 25: office and to push that across the finish line. That
[2:04:59] Speaker 25: is a direct change that happened as a result of that.
[2:05:02] Speaker 25: So many black owned businesses can tell you about a
[2:05:04] Speaker 25: time in which they could not get as much a
[2:05:07] Speaker 25: direct investment from the federal government. Records amount of federal
[2:05:10] Speaker 25: funding flow to the pockets of black owned businesses as
[2:05:13] Speaker 25: a result of the policies enacted by President Biden and
[2:05:17] Speaker 25: the previous administration. So look, I think that ultimately what
[2:05:20] Speaker 25: we have to talk about is what people get in
[2:05:22] Speaker 25: return for their vote, because I do believe that voting
[2:05:24] Speaker 25: is transactional. I think that an understanding and a recognition
[2:05:28] Speaker 25: that the status quo is not working is very important.
[2:05:30] Speaker 25: But then talk about what comes next. I personally believe
[2:05:33] Speaker 25: that the agenda should be afford universal health care for
[2:05:37] Speaker 25: every single person in this country, universal childcare for every
[2:05:40] Speaker 25: single person in this country going forward and getting rid
[2:05:42] Speaker 25: of these universal, broad based tars. Those are three things
[2:05:45] Speaker 25: that can go and reduce prices for Americans, and I
[2:05:48] Speaker 25: believe that the Democratic Party runs on those things.
[2:05:50] Speaker 15: Those are things that can absolutely be accomplished.
[2:05:53] Speaker 25: So look to make things in summary, people want to
[2:05:57] Speaker 25: understand that they get something for their vote. When you
[2:06:00] Speaker 25: voted for Barack Obama, you got the Affordable Care Act
[2:06:03] Speaker 25: and that was great. If you voted for Zoe around mom, Donnie,
[2:06:06] Speaker 25: you got a childcare system in which it is free
[2:06:10] Speaker 25: for a lot of New Yorkers.
[2:06:11] Speaker 15: In New York.
[2:06:12] Speaker 25: You're seeing building of so many homes across New York City.
[2:06:16] Speaker 25: That's what people want to see. I think, delivering something
[2:06:18] Speaker 25: that's real and tangible that they can feel in a.
[2:06:21] Speaker 15: Lot of ways.
[2:06:22] Speaker 25: I think that that hasn't been something that we have
[2:06:24] Speaker 25: done as much. You know, we run on sometimes on
[2:06:26] Speaker 25: these amorphous things that are big ticket, you know issues.
[2:06:29] Speaker 15: Let's run on real tangible things.
[2:06:31] Speaker 25: Universal healthcare, universal childcare, getting rid of broad based tears.
[2:06:35] Speaker 15: Those three things.
[2:06:35] Speaker 25: Directly can go and reduce prices for Americans, and I
[2:06:39] Speaker 25: think we need to get that done.
[2:06:40] Speaker 19: Robert, could you talk just briefly about how voters can
[2:06:46] Speaker 19: avoid some of this cod entail pro and fake information
[2:06:50] Speaker 19: that comes out.
[2:06:51] Speaker 8: We saw this from Governor Ada.
[2:06:53] Speaker 19: You saw this from Donald Trump and the last elected
[2:06:56] Speaker 19: answering whether or not Commalo was black. Now we have
[2:06:59] Speaker 19: avid As and whether they're not tell Ricos forth black people.
[2:07:02] Speaker 19: Another people actually have any interest in helping black people.
[2:07:05] Speaker 19: They just want to drive these divisions within our communities
[2:07:07] Speaker 19: and within our side of the aisle. He can talk
[2:07:09] Speaker 19: a little bit about what people can do and start
[2:07:11] Speaker 19: avoiding them, particularly when they're coming from you know, the
[2:07:14] Speaker 19: online brother Mustafa sixty eight who just appeared out of
[2:07:17] Speaker 19: nowhere to talk about how Tylerrico doesn't like black people.
[2:07:20] Speaker 19: And then it starts well fantastasizing through the algorithm that
[2:07:23] Speaker 19: Elon Musk owns and starts spreading this which we saw
[2:07:26] Speaker 19: on the last election cycle. Really can't impact elections.
[2:07:30] Speaker 25: Well, you know, I think the biggest thing is we
[2:07:32] Speaker 25: got to understand that everything we say can be cannon
[2:07:35] Speaker 25: fodder for these Republicans and so you know, for one,
[2:07:40] Speaker 25: you know, some of these folks are content creators, and
[2:07:43] Speaker 25: they're trying to get engagement and clicks off of asking
[2:07:46] Speaker 25: people questions like I saw somebody making a question to
[2:07:51] Speaker 25: tall Ico about what some other content creator said and
[2:07:54] Speaker 25: how that made them feel. At the end of the day,
[2:07:56] Speaker 25: we have to understand everything we say will be used
[2:08:00] Speaker 25: by Republicans, and so we cannot feed into that, and
[2:08:04] Speaker 25: I don't think that it's very helpful to do that.
[2:08:07] Speaker 25: I think that ultimately might ask to the voters of
[2:08:12] Speaker 25: this country is to go and ask yourself the question,
[2:08:14] Speaker 25: who's going to do something for you personally? And so
[2:08:18] Speaker 25: I think that person is Tallarico, who will vote for healthcare,
[2:08:23] Speaker 25: who will vote for childcare, who will vote to make
[2:08:25] Speaker 25: sure that we can bring down costs. I think that's
[2:08:28] Speaker 25: really important. And then you juxtappose that with someone like
[2:08:31] Speaker 25: Paxson in this instance, what's he going to do for you.
[2:08:34] Speaker 25: I don't think more terroiffts is going to make your
[2:08:36] Speaker 25: life better. I don't think that getting rid of more
[2:08:38] Speaker 25: subsidies for ACA is going to make your life better.
[2:08:41] Speaker 25: I don't think someone who's going to support rolling back
[2:08:44] Speaker 25: environmental regulations to put more pollution in your air and
[2:08:46] Speaker 25: water is going to make things better. I don't think
[2:08:48] Speaker 25: that's in your best interest. Ask yourself the question of
[2:08:50] Speaker 25: who's going to be in your best interest And when
[2:08:52] Speaker 25: you look at the policies at Tallarico supports that absolutely
[2:08:56] Speaker 25: is it without real question in my opinion.
[2:09:01] Speaker 2: Question I have for you. And actually piggybacks on what
[2:09:03] Speaker 2: Rebecca said. I have been yelling and screaming this for
[2:09:08] Speaker 2: the longest that what should be happening right now when
[2:09:12] Speaker 2: she talked about, hey, how can I make somebody life better? Look,
[2:09:15] Speaker 2: tall Rico is running his campaign, He's doing his thing,
[2:09:18] Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that we can't do what we're
[2:09:20] Speaker 2: supposed to do. And for me, I've said what should
[2:09:25] Speaker 2: be happening right now is in every city in Texas
[2:09:34] Speaker 2: every week there should be a we the People, discussion, panel, discussion,
[2:09:40] Speaker 2: town hall Q and a walking people through all of
[2:09:44] Speaker 2: these different things. They should be live stream. We should
[2:09:46] Speaker 2: be kicking those things out primarily because a lot of
[2:09:50] Speaker 2: people just simply don't know what is happening. They don't
[2:09:56] Speaker 2: understand and not connecting the dots. And I think the
[2:09:59] Speaker 2: mass is when we have events and rallies and we
[2:10:02] Speaker 2: say need your vote, Well, I can't get you to
[2:10:06] Speaker 2: vote unless you're registered, and I can't get your registered
[2:10:09] Speaker 2: until I walk you through why you need to be registered,
[2:10:11] Speaker 2: why you need to vote, and so that to me
[2:10:14] Speaker 2: is what really should be happening as well, and so
[2:10:18] Speaker 2: it should be multiple events. Churches and community groups should
[2:10:21] Speaker 2: be doing this, teaching people, having teachings and real discussions
[2:10:26] Speaker 2: that are connecting those dots. Your thoughts on that, I.
[2:10:29] Speaker 25: Think you're one hundred percent right, you know, I just
[2:10:32] Speaker 25: saw a friend of mine, state representative, Jelanta Jones, just
[2:10:36] Speaker 25: did a really big town hall and you in Swich.
[2:10:39] Speaker 10: She did.
[2:10:40] Speaker 25: She invited a lot of people to go forward and
[2:10:42] Speaker 25: learn about what's going on and what's happening. I think
[2:10:44] Speaker 25: there has to be a variety of different events. I
[2:10:47] Speaker 25: don't think that everything will be able to be done
[2:10:51] Speaker 25: by Jess Tallerico. It's going to have to be done
[2:10:53] Speaker 25: by other political figures. And also, you know, with our
[2:10:57] Speaker 25: own individual selves, talk to your friends and family.
[2:11:00] Speaker 15: About the importance of voting and why it is.
[2:11:02] Speaker 25: If you do see someone repost something that is disinformation
[2:11:06] Speaker 25: that you know is not true, go and talk to
[2:11:07] Speaker 25: those people and debunk that. This is going to have
[2:11:10] Speaker 25: to be a team effort, because at the end of
[2:11:11] Speaker 25: the day, we all share the understanding that the Republicans
[2:11:14] Speaker 25: cannot win. Now if we disagree with some of the
[2:11:18] Speaker 25: ways that tall Ico might be campaigning or whatever, take
[2:11:21] Speaker 25: matters into your own hands.
[2:11:22] Speaker 15: Say what do I need to go do? To go
[2:11:24] Speaker 15: and correct the record, and to go and spread the
[2:11:27] Speaker 15: words of people.
[2:11:28] Speaker 25: I know that I am you doing everything I possibly can,
[2:11:31] Speaker 25: even though I don't live in Texas anymore. To go
[2:11:33] Speaker 25: and spread the word to my friends that are still
[2:11:36] Speaker 25: living in Texas about why it's important to go vote
[2:11:41] Speaker 25: and the particular things that they're going to be getting
[2:11:43] Speaker 25: as a result of voting for tall Rico.
[2:11:45] Speaker 15: So we've all got to pick up our mantle.
[2:11:48] Speaker 25: I remember my late mentor congress Woman Jacksonville once said
[2:11:51] Speaker 25: that no one is coming to save us. We are
[2:11:54] Speaker 25: the ones that are the cavalry, and so we have
[2:11:56] Speaker 25: to pick up that mental ourselves and go and do
[2:11:59] Speaker 25: everything in our can uh to go forward and spread
[2:12:01] Speaker 25: the words as many people as possible.
[2:12:04] Speaker 2: You talked about what you left Texas. Where you go?
[2:12:08] Speaker 15: I live in the DMV.
[2:12:09] Speaker 2: Now, oh yo, ass see you you just live in
[2:12:13] Speaker 2: You lived in the d m V and keep your
[2:12:15] Speaker 2: voter registration in Texas. See that's that's allowed. That's allowed.
[2:12:23] Speaker 2: You never know, well, I've been I've been doing it.
[2:12:26] Speaker 2: What you say, Rebecca, I.
[2:12:29] Speaker 7: Said, check your local rules, consulta an attorney, because in
[2:12:33] Speaker 7: Texas they are bringing felony charges to people outside of
[2:12:38] Speaker 7: Paxton if you are voting at an address in which
[2:12:41] Speaker 7: that is not your domicile.
[2:12:43] Speaker 12: Sure you you checked local law.
[2:12:45] Speaker 2: When you got a homestead and you're paying them when
[2:12:47] Speaker 2: you got a homestead and you're paying them property taxes
[2:12:51] Speaker 2: on your home and it's in your name, that's your house.
[2:12:54] Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so uh I know my house is because
[2:12:58] Speaker 2: I own it. I paid them down. I pay taxes. Absolutely,
[2:13:01] Speaker 2: that's right. Every year, all right, is Zee. I appreciate it.
[2:13:04] Speaker 15: Thanks a lot, absolutely, thanks for having me.
[2:13:07] Speaker 2: Folks. We talked about organizing go to my iPad this
[2:13:10] Speaker 2: Saturday in Houston. Freedom Summer two point oh. They're going
[2:13:14] Speaker 2: to be in Houston this Saturday. You see it right here,
[2:13:17] Speaker 2: July twenty fourth, twenty fifth. There in Austin August twenty
[2:13:20] Speaker 2: first and twenty second, Dallas September eighteenth and nineteenth, got
[2:13:24] Speaker 2: various performances. But also if you want to learn more information,
[2:13:30] Speaker 2: this is the this is the QR code right here,
[2:13:34] Speaker 2: and so again right there, we need Houston. Need y'all
[2:13:39] Speaker 2: to show up Freedom Summer two point oh great training
[2:13:42] Speaker 2: things that will be going on on this Saturday in
[2:13:46] Speaker 2: h Town. All right, y'all. New York City is Zoraman
[2:13:49] Speaker 2: Mam Donning made it clear that he wanted to arrest
[2:13:53] Speaker 2: Israeli Prime minsis of Benjamin net in Yahoo. But the
[2:13:57] Speaker 2: reality is he can't do that. It's called thing called
[2:13:59] Speaker 2: difficult community. Donald Trumblair. Oh, he can't do it, but
[2:14:03] Speaker 2: they didn't stop him from dropping this video.
[2:14:07] Speaker 14: Benjamin Etnia, who is a war criminal, the architect of
[2:14:10] Speaker 14: a horrific genocide against the Palestinian people. He is responsible
[2:14:13] Speaker 14: for the killing of more than seventy three thousand people,
[2:14:17] Speaker 14: for the maiming of tens of thousands of children as
[2:14:20] Speaker 14: those who survive undergo amputation without anesthesia, For the targeting
[2:14:25] Speaker 14: of neonatal hospitals and maternity care centers, denying newborns even
[2:14:29] Speaker 14: the chance to live, For the countless people he starved
[2:14:32] Speaker 14: as he blocked food and humanitarian aid from reaching them,
[2:14:35] Speaker 14: for the gunning down of hundreds of aid workers and journalists.
[2:14:39] Speaker 14: And just last month, the UN confirmed that Palestinian children
[2:14:42] Speaker 14: continue to be deliberately targeted and killed by Israeli armed
[2:14:46] Speaker 14: forces more than eight months after the so called ceasefire.
[2:14:50] Speaker 14: The list goes on and on, all as we, as Americans,
[2:14:55] Speaker 14: pay for the bombs that do the killing. There is
[2:14:57] Speaker 14: a reason the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for
[2:15:00] Speaker 14: his arrest. As human beings, we have spent generations building
[2:15:04] Speaker 14: a shared understanding that there are crimes so grave they
[2:15:07] Speaker 14: offend all of humanity. Anyone with their eyes, with their heart,
[2:15:12] Speaker 14: with their conscience, should recognize the devastation he has wrought
[2:15:15] Speaker 14: and understand that he belongs before a court of law.
[2:15:20] Speaker 14: As I've said, I agree with the ICC, the Benjamin Netanya,
[2:15:24] Speaker 14: who should be arrested and tried for his crimes, as
[2:15:27] Speaker 14: I do for anyone else charged by the ICC. My
[2:15:30] Speaker 14: administration has reviewed every avenue available under applicable law to
[2:15:35] Speaker 14: determine whether New York City could execute the International Criminal
[2:15:38] Speaker 14: Court's arrest warrant with Benjamin Netanya, who came here. It
[2:15:41] Speaker 14: is clear that we do not have the independent legal
[2:15:43] Speaker 14: authority to enforce this warrant. The federal government, however, does,
[2:15:48] Speaker 14: and I call on them to join the ICC and
[2:15:50] Speaker 14: execute this warrant. And I want to be equally clear
[2:15:53] Speaker 14: Benjamin Netanya, who is not welcome in New York City,
[2:15:56] Speaker 14: nor is any other war criminal at large. While we
[2:15:59] Speaker 14: cannot end the genocide on our own, we can decide
[2:16:02] Speaker 14: whether our silence will become another weapon, and we can
[2:16:05] Speaker 14: examine every tool we have to defend the humanity and
[2:16:09] Speaker 14: dignity of all people. That is my commitment to you.
[2:16:13] Speaker 2: You know, it's always quite interesting, Rebecca, the United States,
[2:16:17] Speaker 2: we want to execute the rule of law. We will
[2:16:19] Speaker 2: actually go into Venezuela and kidnap its president and drag
[2:16:24] Speaker 2: him back here out of his country to execute an
[2:16:28] Speaker 2: indictment in this country. But then we don't care about
[2:16:32] Speaker 2: the ICC when a rule against us or our friends.
[2:16:38] Speaker 7: Well, it sounds like the United States is committed to
[2:16:40] Speaker 7: exercising and protecting the white supremacist rule of law here.
[2:16:45] Speaker 7: Because here's the bottom line. We know that Yahoo is
[2:16:48] Speaker 7: a war criminal. We know what's happening in Israel in
[2:16:51] Speaker 7: Gaza is genocide.
[2:16:54] Speaker 12: That is clear.
[2:16:54] Speaker 11: That's what history is going to show.
[2:16:56] Speaker 12: That is what the present is showing and is very clear. Now,
[2:17:00] Speaker 12: you know what I think.
[2:17:02] Speaker 7: In the previous segment, I talked about how do you
[2:17:04] Speaker 7: convince people to vote, even if voting is on their
[2:17:08] Speaker 7: top ten things to do.
[2:17:10] Speaker 12: Being a moral leader.
[2:17:12] Speaker 7: The way we see the Mayor of New York being
[2:17:14] Speaker 7: at this moment is a reason to support him. It's
[2:17:17] Speaker 7: a reason why people who may not be actively involved
[2:17:21] Speaker 7: in our political system say, hey, you know what, that's
[2:17:23] Speaker 7: a leader. That's somebody who's actually trying to do the
[2:17:26] Speaker 7: right thing. That's someone's actually trying to make people's lives better.
[2:17:29] Speaker 7: And then we see the policy that he's doing. He's
[2:17:31] Speaker 7: doing a lot of pro.
[2:17:32] Speaker 12: Black policy, a lot of policy that doesn't just help black.
[2:17:36] Speaker 7: Communities, but it helps all communities, because we know when
[2:17:39] Speaker 7: you do pro black policies as a matter of public policy,
[2:17:42] Speaker 7: it actually helps everybody. And so that is the future.
[2:17:48] Speaker 7: If we want to get gen Z, if we want
[2:17:50] Speaker 7: to get Jen Alpha, that's what it looks like. It
[2:17:53] Speaker 7: is unfortunate that there are members of his own party
[2:17:56] Speaker 7: who don't support him, but that is the future.
[2:18:00] Speaker 12: Series why you see certain candidates, like the.
[2:18:04] Speaker 7: Looking at the Senate race in Michigan is the reason
[2:18:08] Speaker 7: why you're seeing people gravitate towards those types of candidates,
[2:18:13] Speaker 7: those types of leaders.
[2:18:15] Speaker 12: And they want them to be their elected leader because they're.
[2:18:17] Speaker 7: Showing moral clarity in this moment, They're not doing this equivocation,
[2:18:22] Speaker 7: they're not playing politics, but instead they're actually trying to
[2:18:25] Speaker 7: deliver for people.
[2:18:27] Speaker 2: And what also I think jumps out here Robert, is
[2:18:29] Speaker 2: that Madonna is not buckling from the pressure. His whole
[2:18:34] Speaker 2: deal is, oh, y'all, mad suck it.
[2:18:38] Speaker 3: Well.
[2:18:38] Speaker 19: You know, I find it interesting that this is even
[2:18:41] Speaker 19: an argument, because we talk a lot about mad men
[2:18:44] Speaker 19: around the world and people that we have to do
[2:18:47] Speaker 19: regime change. I'll just ask you a very just simple question.
[2:18:51] Speaker 19: Who has been responsible for more loss of human life
[2:18:54] Speaker 19: in the last forty years? You know it's been done Yahoo,
[2:18:57] Speaker 19: or let's say Maduroni yao.
[2:19:00] Speaker 8: Who are you know?
[2:19:02] Speaker 19: Kadafi Benjamin Uttingawa, who you can go down the list
[2:19:05] Speaker 19: if you just go number by number, he has been
[2:19:09] Speaker 19: pro perhaps one of the top five or ten people
[2:19:12] Speaker 19: that has led in the depths of human beings over
[2:19:15] Speaker 19: the course of his time in power over the last
[2:19:17] Speaker 19: forty years. So on this issue of whether or not
[2:19:20] Speaker 19: he should be tried as a war criminal, to be
[2:19:22] Speaker 19: a ar rested in the United States of America, I
[2:19:24] Speaker 19: find it ridiculous that we have quote unquote Christian conservatives
[2:19:28] Speaker 19: who talk about the sanctity of life all the time,
[2:19:31] Speaker 19: who talk about the importance of godly principles being the
[2:19:34] Speaker 19: ones lining up to support someone who has killed more
[2:19:37] Speaker 19: women and children civilians than perhaps anyone in the modern era.
[2:19:42] Speaker 19: What Mandanni is doing should not be a hero's journey.
[2:19:45] Speaker 19: This should be the baseline for what we in America,
[2:19:49] Speaker 19: because if you can't stand up to Benjamin Netta Yahu,
[2:19:52] Speaker 19: how can we expect you to stand up to Vladimir Pudin.
[2:19:55] Speaker 8: How can we expect you.
[2:19:56] Speaker 19: To stand up to Kim John Un or to Ying Jingping?
[2:20:01] Speaker 19: How exactly can we expect you to do anything outside
[2:20:03] Speaker 19: of your life and self interest if you won't stand
[2:20:06] Speaker 19: with another Yahoo Derek.
[2:20:10] Speaker 10: You know, the timing of this video is perfect.
[2:20:13] Speaker 6: Roland.
[2:20:13] Speaker 10: I mean you think about it.
[2:20:14] Speaker 20: I mean, all of his candidates that he endorsed up
[2:20:17] Speaker 20: in New York, they all won. Those other candidates and
[2:20:21] Speaker 20: other primaries across the United States.
[2:20:23] Speaker 10: Over in Colorado that's following him, they won.
[2:20:27] Speaker 20: I mean, the young ladies Shoes twenty nine years of
[2:20:29] Speaker 20: age should beat someone that's been in Congress for thirty years. Right,
[2:20:33] Speaker 20: These are the kind of leaders that we're looking for
[2:20:36] Speaker 20: right now. The Mayor is very clear. He's saying at
[2:20:40] Speaker 20: a time when over one hundred Democrats voted to support
[2:20:45] Speaker 20: a bill to give Israel more money.
[2:20:49] Speaker 10: Meanwhile, we need our.
[2:20:52] Speaker 20: Children, six hundred and forty four thousand of our children
[2:20:54] Speaker 20: in Georgia Niede snap benefits. We have those veterans that
[2:21:00] Speaker 20: are looking for care. And so Mandummie is saying, we
[2:21:04] Speaker 20: no longer want the status quo. We're challenging the democratic establishment.
[2:21:09] Speaker 20: We're saying that although I know I can't do this,
[2:21:13] Speaker 20: as he articulated in this video, he said, I'm gonna
[2:21:15] Speaker 20: put this video out there so that way you all
[2:21:19] Speaker 20: who should be doing something in Washington, d C. Y'all
[2:21:22] Speaker 20: should be doing this, and that's going to force that
[2:21:26] Speaker 20: eighteen to thirty five year old group more pressure to
[2:21:30] Speaker 20: the four hundred and thirty five, especially Democrats up in Washington,
[2:21:34] Speaker 20: d C.
[2:21:35] Speaker 2: Folks. And remember, and don't forget. You can tune in
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