# Karmelo Anthony Seeks New Trial. Nolan Wells Family Hires Ben Crump. Black Students Strip Searched

An episode of [#RolandMartinUnfiltered](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1434424449), 8 Jul 2026, 2 h 17 min.

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7.7.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Karmelo Anthony Seeks New Trial. Nolan Wells Family Hires Ben Crump. Black Students Strip Searched _ For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial (724) 264-8281 to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to https://askchapter.org/roland *Paid Partnership* _ Download the Kalshi app and use code Soccer10 to get $10 when you trade $10. You can also sign up at kalshi.com/r/soccer10, which auto-applies the code at checkout. Kalshi. Trade What's Next _ The legal team for Karmelo Anthony filed two motions today -- including one requesting a new trial. We'll break down the filings with attorney A. Scott Bolden. A new lawsuit alleges county and school officials failed to intervene in the case of a 7-year-old Black girl in Long Island who suffered severe abuse and neglect. The family of Nolan Wells, who died over the July 4th weekend in Mississippi, has retained civil rights attorney Ben Crump to investigate the case. Remember the seven black Mississippi families who are suing after their children were unlawfully strip-searched? We talk to the attorney who is representing them. A federal judge shoots down the Trump Administration's attempt to obtain the names of all Fulton County, Georgia, election workers in 2020. And in our Shop Black Star Network Marketplace, we'll be joined by the CEO of the first Black-owned golf equipment company ever to have its golf balls meet US Golf Association standards. Black Star Network Partner: Chapter Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:01] Speaker 1: In in, in, in, in, in, in, in in in in,
[0:36] Speaker 1: in in In.
[1:15] Speaker 2: Today's Tuesday, July seven, twenty twenty six coming up in Roland,
[1:18] Speaker 2: Martin unfiltered streaming live on the Blackstar Network. Legal team
[1:21] Speaker 2: for Camala Anthony has filed two motions today, including one
[1:23] Speaker 2: requesting a new trial will break down the fountains with
[1:27] Speaker 2: attorney A. Scott Bolton, also a new lawsuit the ledges,
[1:30] Speaker 2: county and school officials. He all to intervene in the
[1:32] Speaker 2: case of a seven year old black girl in Long
[1:34] Speaker 2: Island who suffered severe abuse and neglect. The family of
[1:38] Speaker 2: Nolan Wales, who died of the July fourth weekend in Mississippi,
[1:41] Speaker 2: have hired civil rights attorney being prompted to investigate the
[1:44] Speaker 2: case and represent them. Remember the seven black Mississippi families
[1:47] Speaker 2: were assuming after their children were underlawfully strip search. Will
[1:50] Speaker 2: talk to the attorney who's representing the families. Plus the
[1:53] Speaker 2: federal judge shoots down the Trump administration's attempt to obtain
[1:56] Speaker 2: the names of all Fulton County, Georgia election workers in
[1:59] Speaker 2: two thousand twenty, Speaking of Trump that continue their attack
[2:02] Speaker 2: on Black America, this time pretty much ignoring discrimination claims
[2:07] Speaker 2: we'll talk about that. In addition to that, folks, and
[2:11] Speaker 2: we'll hear from Virginia Governor Avagail Spanberger about her first
[2:15] Speaker 2: six months in office. Plus and I shot Blackstar Network
[2:18] Speaker 2: dot com marketplace segment. We'll talk to the CEO of
[2:21] Speaker 2: the first black owned golf equipment company ever. Ever, it's
[2:24] Speaker 2: golf balls meet the US Golf Association's standards. It's time
[2:28] Speaker 2: to bring the funk on rolling unfiltered the Blackstart Network.
[2:31] Speaker 3: Let's go.
[2:33] Speaker 4: Whatever whatever.
[2:40] Speaker 5: He's right on time and best believe he's knowings Loston
[2:47] Speaker 5: News to politics.
[2:50] Speaker 4: Just she's real the question, No, he's ruling.
[3:11] Speaker 3: The margin Carlo Mello. After his new legal team have
[3:27] Speaker 3: found two new motions.
[3:29] Speaker 2: One asked for a new trial and the other asked
[3:31] Speaker 2: to accuse the judge presided over his murder trial, Anthony's
[3:34] Speaker 2: legal team wants Judge John Roach removed from all remaining
[3:37] Speaker 2: post trial proceedings. In the motion, they a point to
[3:40] Speaker 2: Roach's post verdict interview with the local TV station and
[3:43] Speaker 2: has written statement to Fox News in which he publicly
[3:46] Speaker 2: endorsed the guilty verdict, defended his courtroom rulings, and declared
[3:49] Speaker 2: that Anthony received a fair trial Anthony's attorneys say those comments,
[3:53] Speaker 2: they say, make it make it impossible for Roach to
[3:55] Speaker 2: rule on the defense's post trial motions fairly. This request
[3:59] Speaker 2: comes this legal experts continue to point to one issue
[4:02] Speaker 2: they believe gives Anthony his strongest chance on appeal. The
[4:05] Speaker 2: jury that convicted him did not include a single black jaw.
[4:08] Speaker 2: During the July Junior levelth interview with w FAA TV
[4:12] Speaker 2: Channel eight, he acknowledged the dismissal of every potential black jaw.
[4:19] Speaker 3: And you excused, you.
[4:23] Speaker 6: Denied the defense and the dismissing of three jurors who
[4:27] Speaker 6: at least identified as African American on their bioforms.
[4:32] Speaker 3: What did you make of that moment?
[4:34] Speaker 7: Well, that's not exactly how it works. The defense didn't
[4:36] Speaker 7: dismiss them.
[4:37] Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The defense raised an objection.
[4:39] Speaker 8: And raised an objection. Yeah, they have raised an objection.
[4:42] Speaker 7: Like I told you before, as long as I follow
[4:44] Speaker 7: the law, I sleep well at night. And I'm telling
[4:47] Speaker 7: you I follow the law in that case. Did I
[4:50] Speaker 7: know what the perception was going to be?
[4:53] Speaker 3: Sure?
[4:54] Speaker 7: I knew in the back of my mind what the
[4:55] Speaker 7: perception was going to be. But I'm not here to
[4:58] Speaker 7: satisfy perceptions. I'm not here to sat us by agendas.
[5:01] Speaker 7: I'm not here to do any of those things. I'm
[5:02] Speaker 7: here to follow the law and i did it to
[5:04] Speaker 7: a t and I'm proud.
[5:06] Speaker 3: Of that, very proud of that. Is this your last
[5:09] Speaker 3: big trial?
[5:09] Speaker 8: It's my last big trial.
[5:11] Speaker 7: The sad part about it is, I will tell you
[5:13] Speaker 7: before I leave, at the end of the year, I'll
[5:15] Speaker 7: try a couple more murder cases.
[5:16] Speaker 3: For example, the parking.
[5:18] Speaker 7: Lot won't be full, the gallery won't be full of
[5:22] Speaker 7: people watching the case. We still have somebody who's died
[5:25] Speaker 7: and someone accused of doing the killing, and it won't
[5:29] Speaker 7: draw the attention that this case did. And their death
[5:33] Speaker 7: is no less tragic than the tragic death of the
[5:37] Speaker 7: young man in this case. And so big trial, I
[5:41] Speaker 7: guess from an outside outsider's perspective and the social media
[5:47] Speaker 7: and the media interest in the case. But crime still
[5:50] Speaker 7: happens in Colin County, and every single person deserves to
[5:54] Speaker 7: have is fair of a trial that Carmelo Anthony had.
[5:58] Speaker 3: What's your take on Carmelo. I don't know.
[6:04] Speaker 8: I really don't know.
[6:05] Speaker 3: He's had a lot of defense.
[6:06] Speaker 8: You've had a lot of defendants in your courtroom.
[6:07] Speaker 7: I've had a lot of defendence in my courtroom, and
[6:10] Speaker 7: I talked to mister Anthony a couple of times because
[6:12] Speaker 7: I'm legally required to go over some things with him.
[6:16] Speaker 8: He seems.
[6:18] Speaker 7: Like a nice young man who committed a crime, and
[6:24] Speaker 7: he understands today more than any day before today, the
[6:28] Speaker 7: consequences of committing a crime like he did, folks.
[6:34] Speaker 2: The other motion for a new trial claims Anthea's constitution
[6:37] Speaker 2: and rights were violated, arguing courtroom access restrictions deprived him
[6:41] Speaker 2: of a public trial, and prosecutors backed away from an
[6:44] Speaker 2: author record agreement that ultimately laid Anthony not to testify
[6:48] Speaker 2: in his own trial. Anthony is serving thirty five years
[6:50] Speaker 2: for the murder of Austin Medcalf. He maintained he stabbed
[6:54] Speaker 2: Mintcalf in self defense. Turnie Scott Balden joined us right now. Scott,
[6:59] Speaker 2: your assessment of these two new motions from Anthony's new
[7:02] Speaker 2: legal team, Well.
[7:04] Speaker 3: I think emotions are pretty strong.
[7:06] Speaker 9: Again, I didn't sit in on any other cases, but
[7:09] Speaker 9: the emotion for the judge to accuse himself, I just
[7:11] Speaker 9: got done looking at the interview that judge Roach did
[7:15] Speaker 9: and it just makes no sense.
[7:18] Speaker 10: This is exactly what the judicial of canons of ethics
[7:21] Speaker 10: don't want a judge to do. Where he is relishing
[7:24] Speaker 10: in the press a big case, but the case is
[7:28] Speaker 10: still pending before him. The verdict was rendered by the jury,
[7:32] Speaker 10: but there are always post JDIC post verdict motions to
[7:36] Speaker 10: be held on to be decided by the court. Even
[7:40] Speaker 10: if you file an appeal, even while the case is
[7:42] Speaker 10: pinning appeal, it can go back and it can go
[7:45] Speaker 10: back to the trial court. So why is a sitting
[7:49] Speaker 10: judge who sat through the whole trial now giving public
[7:53] Speaker 10: interviews and writing letters to Fox News, Relachine or wallowing
[7:59] Speaker 10: if you well in his newfound quote celebrity status because
[8:04] Speaker 10: he had a big case just not ready for prime time,
[8:07] Speaker 10: but also hasn't really looked at the canons of ethics
[8:09] Speaker 10: in regard to the post trial asking for a new trial.
[8:15] Speaker 3: Those arguments are pretty strong. Doesn't mean they're going to
[8:18] Speaker 3: be granted.
[8:19] Speaker 10: The lack of access for his family and the public
[8:22] Speaker 10: to the trial is a bit of a long shot,
[8:25] Speaker 10: but I think that argument has to be made the
[8:29] Speaker 10: off the record agreements that were made between the lawyers,
[8:33] Speaker 10: which ultimately barred the defendant from taking the stand on
[8:38] Speaker 10: a self defense case. I would never have agreed to that.
[8:40] Speaker 10: I don't know how you get that off the record agreement.
[8:43] Speaker 10: But more importantly, so many of the proceedings in Carmelo
[8:47] Speaker 10: Anthony's trial were conducted in the chambers of this very judge,
[8:51] Speaker 10: weren't filed with the clerk's off ifs if you will.
[8:54] Speaker 10: And even now, the defense lawyers, as I understand it,
[8:58] Speaker 10: don't have access to the.
[8:59] Speaker 11: Full record without reviewing them in the judges chambers, and
[9:03] Speaker 11: they can't make copies or take them with them with
[9:06] Speaker 11: them in preparation for post trial proceedings or for the
[9:10] Speaker 11: Court of appills.
[9:11] Speaker 3: That's unheard of, if you will.
[9:13] Speaker 10: So a lot of different and not so good things
[9:17] Speaker 10: going on, not just for Carmlo Anthony, but the integrity
[9:20] Speaker 10: of the court, the integrity of the criminal.
[9:22] Speaker 3: Justice system, which is always an issue when you have
[9:26] Speaker 3: judges as well as prosecutors acting in this manner.
[9:30] Speaker 2: Obviously, this new legal team was critically important because many
[9:36] Speaker 2: felt that his previous lawyer just did an awful job
[9:39] Speaker 2: during the trial.
[9:40] Speaker 3: I still don't understand what the hell the.
[9:42] Speaker 2: Attorney was thinking by after he was convicted, only putting
[9:46] Speaker 2: on one person in the sentising phase and that was
[9:49] Speaker 2: his mother. He didn't bring in his coaches, friends, church
[9:54] Speaker 2: pastor nobody. I mean, the kid gets convicted, kid gets
[10:00] Speaker 2: convicted same day, they have a sinising phase, the jury
[10:04] Speaker 2: goes back and hits them with thirty five years. That
[10:07] Speaker 2: literally all happened like in a six hour span.
[10:10] Speaker 10: Yeah, the defendant at one point was only given ten
[10:14] Speaker 10: minutes to figure out whether he was going to be
[10:16] Speaker 10: able to testify or not. I don't know whether there's
[10:18] Speaker 10: a ruling that he couldn't testify that would certainly be
[10:21] Speaker 10: reversible error.
[10:22] Speaker 3: But they were moving pretty fast in this courtroom.
[10:27] Speaker 10: And if you'd read the papers of his new council,
[10:32] Speaker 10: which is the appellate counselor or a combination of about
[10:35] Speaker 10: six lawyers, including Ben Crumb's firm, it sounds to me
[10:38] Speaker 10: after reading the papers that they're setting up a argument
[10:43] Speaker 10: at the Appellate Court for an effective assistance of council,
[10:46] Speaker 10: which is very.
[10:46] Speaker 3: Viable here just based on the facts that we know publicly.
[10:50] Speaker 10: But there was a lot of fast and loose things
[10:52] Speaker 10: going on, not just with the interview, the post trial interview,
[10:56] Speaker 10: but also this off the record agreement between the parties
[11:01] Speaker 10: and then the repudiation of that agreement at the end
[11:04] Speaker 10: of the plane at the prosecutor's case, but the preparation
[11:09] Speaker 10: was nullified.
[11:09] Speaker 3: That repudiation nullified.
[11:12] Speaker 10: Whether you would even put on a self defense expert
[11:15] Speaker 10: or whether you would put on character testimony. Those are
[11:19] Speaker 10: two defenses or two factual pieces that are fundamental to
[11:25] Speaker 10: self defense. Why would you ever agree not to do that?
[11:27] Speaker 10: As they say, try the case under the tent, that is,
[11:30] Speaker 10: we're going to try the case on the facts and
[11:32] Speaker 10: everything that happened at the crime scene.
[11:35] Speaker 3: Well that borders on the nonsensical.
[11:37] Speaker 10: When this young man was sentenced to thirty five years
[11:40] Speaker 10: in prison, and he was sentenced after a conviction, why
[11:44] Speaker 10: would you foreclose any of that? So look for an
[11:46] Speaker 10: ineffective assistance of a council being made at the appellate.
[11:49] Speaker 3: Level for sure.
[11:52] Speaker 2: And just your thoughts on this six member team that
[11:57] Speaker 2: was announced to take on on him. Obviously there was
[12:02] Speaker 2: so much controversy discussion union social media after the case
[12:06] Speaker 2: of people folks are like, yo, where are blacks you know,
[12:09] Speaker 2: superstar legal eagles to rise to this young man's defense,
[12:13] Speaker 2: and well, people have to understand, listen, he's been convicted.
[12:17] Speaker 2: Texas ain't the most easiest place to overturn a conviction
[12:21] Speaker 2: and get a new trial.
[12:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a dream team now with a former
[12:29] Speaker 3: federal prosecutor, a state prosecutor from that county.
[12:32] Speaker 10: All of them are volunteering their rights right now or
[12:36] Speaker 10: volunteering their time.
[12:37] Speaker 3: Obviously, Ben Crumb's firm is involved.
[12:40] Speaker 10: I had a couple of attorneys reach out to me
[12:42] Speaker 10: in regard to our appellate group, but those six that
[12:46] Speaker 10: they ultimately are defending him are really good. At the
[12:50] Speaker 10: appellate level. Look for more, quite frankly, to support and participate.
[12:56] Speaker 10: A big firm like mine or any other big firm
[12:59] Speaker 10: out here who certainly supported and has supported been in
[13:02] Speaker 10: many of his other prior cases, whether it was at
[13:04] Speaker 10: the appellate level or at the trial level where the
[13:07] Speaker 10: cases were pending. Many of the big firms have resources,
[13:10] Speaker 10: and so this young man we're going to give him.
[13:12] Speaker 10: They're going to give him every shot at getting this
[13:15] Speaker 10: reverse giving the inconsistencies and the problems with the case
[13:20] Speaker 10: just from a public perception standpoint.
[13:22] Speaker 12: So look for not just the pr on this, but
[13:25] Speaker 12: look for some really good lawyer in at the appellate level,
[13:28] Speaker 12: and hopefully the Court of Appeals or even the Supreme
[13:33] Speaker 12: Court will do the right thing.
[13:34] Speaker 3: Good lawyering will help this young man explain why.
[13:38] Speaker 2: We'll explain for folks who don't really understand the law,
[13:44] Speaker 2: why a specific expertise when it comes to an appellate team.
[13:48] Speaker 13: Matters well, because the appeal is about about putting together
[13:56] Speaker 13: a strong brief arguing what the law is. Are you
[14:00] Speaker 13: in what the errors that were made at the trial level,
[14:03] Speaker 13: being able to present in a cogent and reasonable and
[14:06] Speaker 13: forceful and faithful manner before let's say three judges or
[14:10] Speaker 13: up to eight or nine judges at the.
[14:12] Speaker 10: State level, whereby you're doing an appellet argument. You're not
[14:16] Speaker 10: putting on evidence, you're not putting on witnesses, you're not
[14:19] Speaker 10: moving there's no jury there here.
[14:21] Speaker 3: You have three appellate judges.
[14:24] Speaker 10: You can go unbox many cases at the state level
[14:27] Speaker 10: and at the federal level, but they hear your oral
[14:29] Speaker 10: argument on the errors that occurred below.
[14:32] Speaker 3: The prosecution will be there.
[14:33] Speaker 10: They have specialized repellant lawyers who will put together papers
[14:37] Speaker 10: and they will defend what the trial lawyers did. So
[14:40] Speaker 10: this is part of the due process. This is part
[14:42] Speaker 10: of the criminal justice system and civil justice system where.
[14:45] Speaker 3: You have a trial.
[14:46] Speaker 10: Many of us know that we've watched TV, but then
[14:49] Speaker 10: you appeal what happened at the trial level level and
[14:53] Speaker 10: hopefully if it could be denovo where they look at everything,
[14:57] Speaker 10: or they could be very limited in their review. And
[15:00] Speaker 10: in this case, the defend the defense Appellate Council will
[15:04] Speaker 10: be trying to get the Texas Court of Appeals to
[15:07] Speaker 10: reverse and send it down for a new trial or
[15:10] Speaker 10: send it back for further proceedings.
[15:12] Speaker 3: So it's its cases far from over.
[15:15] Speaker 2: On another case, following the death of Nolan Wells his
[15:18] Speaker 2: family in Mississippi, his family has now hired Bent Crump's
[15:22] Speaker 2: law firm to represent them. Of course, Dola Wells, eighteen
[15:25] Speaker 2: years old, found dead Monday by park ranger on Mississippi's
[15:28] Speaker 2: Gulf Coast after he disappeared in July fourth during a
[15:31] Speaker 2: trip to Horn Island with three of his friends. As
[15:34] Speaker 2: the investigation to know those disappearance and death leads more
[15:36] Speaker 2: questions and answers, Crumper's legal team say they will conduct
[15:39] Speaker 2: an independent review of the case, and the statement on
[15:41] Speaker 2: the attorney's website the family's demanding a timely release of
[15:45] Speaker 2: all the records autopsy findings and witness statements is investigator's work.
[15:48] Speaker 2: You're determine exactly what happened. We also have seen lots
[15:52] Speaker 2: of information but videos of other people who were actually
[15:56] Speaker 2: in the waters, and some people had a video of
[15:59] Speaker 2: the those white teams arguing.
[16:02] Speaker 3: With Nolan Wells as well.
[16:05] Speaker 2: Of course, the family also has created GoFundMe financial page
[16:09] Speaker 2: to pay for the independent autopsy. It's organized by a
[16:13] Speaker 2: Leah dentist and that so that's there now and so
[16:17] Speaker 2: again they have been raising those funds and so we're
[16:23] Speaker 2: gonna show that go fund me Paige in a in
[16:25] Speaker 2: a bit as well, Scott. And this is the thing
[16:29] Speaker 2: that we discussed this beforehand, and people have to understand
[16:32] Speaker 2: Ben Crump and his Ben Crump and his team they
[16:35] Speaker 2: do not prosecute cases.
[16:36] Speaker 3: They're there to represent the family.
[16:39] Speaker 2: Explain why how critical it is to have attorneys who
[16:43] Speaker 2: understand media, who understand that process that keeps the pressure
[16:49] Speaker 2: on to ensure an investigation is properly done, because we've
[16:53] Speaker 2: seen examples where families are like, we can't get any answers,
[16:57] Speaker 2: the attorneys not being aggressive or they're not generalating attention,
[17:01] Speaker 2: because that public attention also keeps that spotlight on those investigating, right, and.
[17:08] Speaker 10: The investigators are part of the government. They may or
[17:11] Speaker 10: may not have an interest outside of the vested interests
[17:15] Speaker 10: in law enforcement. They may have their own personal prejudices.
[17:19] Speaker 10: But somebody knows what happened to this young man in
[17:21] Speaker 10: this case, and someone like Ben Crump and his team,
[17:24] Speaker 10: they'll not only do an independent autopsy if they can
[17:27] Speaker 10: get access to it, but they'll also do an independent
[17:30] Speaker 10: review and then publicize what their findings were, take them
[17:34] Speaker 10: to the government and press the prosecutor's office or press
[17:38] Speaker 10: for an inquest or press for autopsy, and what the
[17:45] Speaker 10: coroner is ultimately going to decide as to what the
[17:49] Speaker 10: cause of death was. That's really really important as far
[17:52] Speaker 10: as a broad investment, or rather an independent investigation, and
[17:55] Speaker 10: then ultimately those findings of Ben Crump and his advocacy
[18:00] Speaker 10: and the media is interested in the case. Certainly are
[18:03] Speaker 10: pressure points, but should also not intimidate or up in
[18:08] Speaker 10: the independence of the government's conclusion. But let's make sure
[18:12] Speaker 10: we get that government conclusion right. It's about accountability, and
[18:15] Speaker 10: so it's important that he do his job ultimately independence,
[18:20] Speaker 10: if you will, And so often these smaller communities and
[18:23] Speaker 10: these in these cities. Right, everybody's got a political agenda,
[18:28] Speaker 10: and most of the time it ain't a political agenda
[18:30] Speaker 10: to help black folks or our community or to have accountability.
[18:34] Speaker 3: Somebody knows what happened. Those young people need to be interviewed.
[18:37] Speaker 3: If it was an accident, so be it. If it
[18:40] Speaker 3: was intentional, so be it.
[18:41] Speaker 10: But that family deserves answers, and the public deserves answers,
[18:45] Speaker 10: and so we should get those, hopefully in the next
[18:48] Speaker 10: sixty to one hundred and twenty days, maybe sooner.
[18:51] Speaker 3: All right, Scott Boudon, I still appreciate it. Thanks a lot,
[18:54] Speaker 3: good seeing you man. All Right, folks, have to go
[18:56] Speaker 3: to the break. We'll be right back. Roland Martin unfiltered
[18:58] Speaker 3: on the Blackstart Network.
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[20:52] Speaker 1: Uh.
[20:53] Speaker 2: We had discussion about it last night uh, And we
[20:56] Speaker 2: talked about, of course we'll actually gonna have that question
[21:00] Speaker 2: case in the second because of the Mississippi But it's
[21:02] Speaker 2: just a very very strange story that makes no sense
[21:05] Speaker 2: to me. And when you talk about how our kids
[21:09] Speaker 2: are being treated, and I hope people understand when all
[21:12] Speaker 2: of these cases and we talk about them, why it's
[21:14] Speaker 2: important you have strong legal representation. It amazes me when
[21:19] Speaker 2: I see these stories people say, oh, you know, I
[21:22] Speaker 2: hate journalists and I hate lawyers. Well that's until you
[21:25] Speaker 2: need one, and all of a sudden, you hope those
[21:27] Speaker 2: folks actually show up. And that's certainly the case in
[21:31] Speaker 2: Mississippi with Nolan Wells, that's the case with Carmelo Anthony
[21:37] Speaker 2: and another example.
[21:38] Speaker 3: And what we must be doing.
[21:41] Speaker 2: And I was having this conversation with a civil rights
[21:43] Speaker 2: attorney who said that we really have to understand the
[21:47] Speaker 2: power of the law and why we must be encouraging
[21:52] Speaker 2: more and more of our young people to pursue advocacy
[21:56] Speaker 2: in law, to pursue being civil rights attorneys. And so
[22:01] Speaker 2: these things mattered, And so in the next hour, we're
[22:05] Speaker 2: going to talk with the attorney for the family suing
[22:08] Speaker 2: in that case in Mississippi. Where those teens were searched
[22:13] Speaker 2: when it came to vapes. Then there's a store that's
[22:16] Speaker 2: out of New York. Again, this is important when you
[22:21] Speaker 2: have strong legal representation to pursue your interest.
[22:27] Speaker 3: Let's talk about that particular story. Seven year old kid,
[22:30] Speaker 3: black girl. They're suing Suffolk County in Bayport Blue Point
[22:34] Speaker 3: School District, claiming officials there ignore repeated warnings before she
[22:39] Speaker 3: was murdered on December twenty ninth. Jordan Dukin's family Allegia's
[22:44] Speaker 3: County Social Service officials were negligent, placing her in an
[22:48] Speaker 3: abusive home in the failing to intervene despite multiple warnings.
[22:52] Speaker 3: Fifty year old Emily Kelly, who was the fiancee of
[22:55] Speaker 3: Jordan's father, who was incarcerated, gained full custody of her
[22:59] Speaker 3: in a twenty twenty five. Prosecutors say Jordan.
[23:05] Speaker 2: Endured prolonged neglect and abuse inflicted by Kelly, her seventy
[23:09] Speaker 2: five year old mother, Barbara Renter in Kelly's twenty four
[23:12] Speaker 2: year old daughter, Elisa Seymour. Sofa County Medical Examiner's Office
[23:16] Speaker 2: reported Jordan died from an infection caused by her injuries
[23:20] Speaker 2: and was found to have ninety wounds on her body
[23:24] Speaker 2: at the time of her death. The three women are
[23:26] Speaker 2: facing this s little charges. Kelly is being charged with
[23:28] Speaker 2: a secondary murder. Heather Palmore Jorg just right now. She's
[23:32] Speaker 2: the attorney for the family. Heather, glad to have you here.
[23:35] Speaker 2: This is beyond shocking. How in the hell does this
[23:40] Speaker 2: type of abuse happen? And also over what period of
[23:43] Speaker 2: time are we talking about this abuse took place?
[23:47] Speaker 16: Well, let me say this that as an attorney who's
[23:50] Speaker 16: been practicing for thirty one years and a former prosecutor,
[23:55] Speaker 16: I've never seen anything like this in my life.
[24:01] Speaker 17: How did we get here?
[24:02] Speaker 16: We got here because there was a total system failure
[24:07] Speaker 16: of an institution and an entity that is supposed to
[24:11] Speaker 16: protect our children. And Jordan wasn't seen repeated history marked
[24:19] Speaker 16: history of abuse. And let me be clear about something
[24:23] Speaker 16: that Jordan lived a very good life from the period
[24:29] Speaker 16: of time when she was eight months old all the
[24:31] Speaker 16: way through her sixth birthday. And it was only a
[24:35] Speaker 16: few days that she was going to be permanently placed
[24:39] Speaker 16: with a family member that it was determined by the
[24:43] Speaker 16: court that Emily Kelly would be her custodian.
[24:54] Speaker 2: When we think about this, this family, this is again unbelievable.
[25:02] Speaker 2: Here did they track checks on this child?
[25:09] Speaker 3: How often were they visiting the home checking her well being?
[25:13] Speaker 16: Well, let's say this during the course of time, based
[25:17] Speaker 16: upon the evidence that we have thus far, that CPS
[25:22] Speaker 16: seemed to be over policing the home that she was in,
[25:27] Speaker 16: and she was stable, didn't miss any school, and then
[25:31] Speaker 16: when she was turned over to Emily Kelly, there was
[25:35] Speaker 16: a hands off approach. And our position is is that
[25:41] Speaker 16: Emily Kelly was basically given the privilege of being white
[25:46] Speaker 16: in this situation, and a.
[25:48] Speaker 17: Lot of signs were overlooked. The fact that Emily.
[25:51] Speaker 16: Kelly had two children in her care prior to Jordan
[25:57] Speaker 16: that died. One was murdered by her then boyfriend.
[26:03] Speaker 2: W w wait wait, you're the woman who they gave
[26:09] Speaker 2: this child to. A previous person died allegedly at the
[26:13] Speaker 2: hands of her boyfriend, and they allowed her. They gave
[26:17] Speaker 2: her another child, correct, Okay, okay, go ahead, and she had.
[26:25] Speaker 17: An infant that also died.
[26:29] Speaker 16: We don't know the circumstances under which that death occurred,
[26:33] Speaker 16: but through the course of discovery, we are going to be.
[26:38] Speaker 17: Diligent in uncovering those facts that are very.
[26:42] Speaker 16: Well known and should have been known to CPS at
[26:45] Speaker 16: the time when making a determination as to whether Emily
[26:48] Speaker 16: Kelly was the appropriate place for Jordan to be placed.
[26:52] Speaker 16: In addition, she had a recent DWI back in twenty
[26:56] Speaker 16: twenty three, less than twenty four months BEFO before she
[27:00] Speaker 16: was placed with Jordan. So clearly there may be an
[27:03] Speaker 16: indication of a substance abuse problem. And I say that
[27:08] Speaker 16: because it was the very same thing that caused the
[27:11] Speaker 16: removal from the initial removal of Jordan from her home
[27:16] Speaker 16: with her mother, Porsche. And so it's a position that
[27:21] Speaker 16: had CPS done the appropriate background check, we certainly wouldn't
[27:25] Speaker 16: be here.
[27:26] Speaker 3: Okay.
[27:26] Speaker 2: The New York Post has a story saying that, First
[27:31] Speaker 2: of all, it's just the headline here. It says that
[27:35] Speaker 2: the mother of the mother of the young girl, they're suing.
[27:39] Speaker 2: It says they're suing what twohundred and fifty million.
[27:41] Speaker 3: This torture house.
[27:42] Speaker 2: Okay, So in this story, in this story, they said
[27:46] Speaker 2: that Jordan was placed in Kelly's custody at the request
[27:49] Speaker 2: of the girl's dad, Derek Dixon, who is currently serving
[27:53] Speaker 2: a four year state prison sentence on an attempted Berkeley conviction.
[27:57] Speaker 2: Despite Portia Duncan's objections. Kelly was given full custody of
[28:01] Speaker 2: the girl in April twenty twenty five. Why would the
[28:04] Speaker 2: mother not get custody of her own child.
[28:08] Speaker 16: It's our position that social services and the county went
[28:13] Speaker 16: over and beyond to stored and prevent Porsche Duncan from
[28:22] Speaker 16: being a parent to her child. There are a number
[28:27] Speaker 16: of people who petitioned in her family to care for Jordan,
[28:33] Speaker 16: and all four of them were rejected.
[28:35] Speaker 17: They were all four black women, All four of them.
[28:39] Speaker 16: Had jobs, all four of them had safe homes, and
[28:42] Speaker 16: all four of them lived independently, and they were rejected
[28:46] Speaker 16: by the court. And so these are things that we're
[28:49] Speaker 16: going to be looking into as we moved to uncover
[28:54] Speaker 16: what actually happened here. Who's responsible it is?
[28:58] Speaker 2: There's a quote here from uh the d A prosecutors say, uh,
[29:06] Speaker 2: she cured. She dealt with abuse including quote sharp force injuries,
[29:13] Speaker 2: culture to miss Atola for your school days, which is
[29:15] Speaker 2: a hell of a lot quote. This was not an
[29:18] Speaker 2: alleged single act of violence, seffic DA attorney Ray Tyrna said,
[29:22] Speaker 2: it was months of alleged systematic cruelty and sadistic abuse.
[29:29] Speaker 17: Yes, it was, and.
[29:33] Speaker 16: That is what we are looking to do right now
[29:35] Speaker 16: and the course of discoveries finding out who knew what
[29:39] Speaker 16: when any reporting, there's a report or something out there,
[29:47] Speaker 16: and that's why. And I'm so glad that you talked
[29:48] Speaker 16: about the media and how powerful it is, and especially
[29:53] Speaker 16: black owned media. And there's a report out there that
[29:57] Speaker 16: there was no finding a fault by CPS, by the
[30:00] Speaker 16: state for CPS, and that is absolutely not true.
[30:03] Speaker 17: There is nothing in that report that says that CPS
[30:06] Speaker 17: was not at fault.
[30:08] Speaker 16: It does say that they did not conduct any investigations
[30:12] Speaker 16: in the year.
[30:14] Speaker 17: Leading to her death.
[30:15] Speaker 16: And the family court is very clear that prior to
[30:20] Speaker 16: the final placement she would have to be monitored by
[30:23] Speaker 16: CPS for a period of six months prior to being
[30:27] Speaker 16: awarded full custody. That did not take place here. And
[30:31] Speaker 16: so our position is on top of the miscues that
[30:36] Speaker 16: CPS and the school district violated their own policies in
[30:41] Speaker 16: the care of Jordan Duncan, resulting unfortunately in her death.
[30:46] Speaker 2: Of course, for my pal, first off, do the masaun
[30:48] Speaker 2: to Ali Santiago Eli, former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice
[30:52] Speaker 2: of the EPA out of DC.
[30:54] Speaker 18: Let's stop the gold yeah, well, thank you for everything
[30:58] Speaker 18: that you have done and that that you continue to do.
[31:01] Speaker 18: You know, we know based upon some studies that New
[31:04] Speaker 18: York on New York State has a problem and relationship
[31:07] Speaker 18: to the foster care system and children losing their lives
[31:10] Speaker 18: and of course dealing with abuse. Based upon where you
[31:13] Speaker 18: said what needs to be done to better protect our children,
[31:21] Speaker 18: I would.
[31:22] Speaker 16: Say that we have to be intentional about electing our officials.
[31:29] Speaker 16: We talk about this all the time, how important local
[31:32] Speaker 16: elections are. They matter because whoever you elect as your
[31:36] Speaker 16: accounty executive has the power to put the person in
[31:39] Speaker 16: place who would be ultimately in charge of your social services,
[31:44] Speaker 16: which is the oversight the entity that would oversee CPS.
[31:49] Speaker 16: So I think it causes us to pause and really
[31:53] Speaker 16: start where the center of gravity is, and that would
[31:57] Speaker 16: be electing people who are qualified and intentional about making
[32:06] Speaker 16: sure that policies and procedures are followed, statutes with teeth
[32:16] Speaker 16: to them that are that are very clear about what
[32:21] Speaker 16: is required in order to make sure that a child
[32:26] Speaker 16: is in safetyeping care.
[32:29] Speaker 2: Next question is the more jd I, a consultant and
[32:32] Speaker 2: employment specialist, joined us from DC.
[32:35] Speaker 19: Well, thank you so much for evoritething that you're doing
[32:37] Speaker 19: for this family.
[32:39] Speaker 20: So if ultimately what discovery, what discovery finds out, If
[32:46] Speaker 20: what you've described to describe to this point, is it
[32:50] Speaker 20: due to individual negligence or does it reveal more of
[32:53] Speaker 20: the systemic failures within the child welfare system? And how
[32:56] Speaker 20: can we as the community really support seeing some kind
[33:01] Speaker 20: of policy changes within cp IS or on a federal
[33:06] Speaker 20: or a state level. Where would you say we really
[33:08] Speaker 20: need to focus our interests in supporting his family?
[33:11] Speaker 16: I would say both, we need to hold those accountable
[33:16] Speaker 16: for Jordan's death, but we also need to actively engage
[33:21] Speaker 16: reach out to our assemblymen and women in the state,
[33:26] Speaker 16: our state senators who have the power to create the
[33:31] Speaker 16: legislation that would give broader protections for children that are
[33:35] Speaker 16: in the forster care system. Let's be very clear that
[33:39] Speaker 16: this is a system right and in order for this
[33:44] Speaker 16: system to work, it requires people that are experienced.
[33:49] Speaker 17: It begs the question is that really the intent?
[33:53] Speaker 16: A lot of people have made a lot of money
[33:55] Speaker 16: off of the Family Court and our plates within the
[34:00] Speaker 16: Black family, and so the goal, I would hope is
[34:05] Speaker 16: to reunite people with their families and give them the
[34:07] Speaker 16: resources that they need.
[34:09] Speaker 17: And this is not a very easy issue to unwrapped.
[34:13] Speaker 17: It's layered, and.
[34:15] Speaker 16: So where there are times where we fall or life happens,
[34:21] Speaker 16: that's why CPS and social services are in place in
[34:25] Speaker 16: order to assist. And there was a complete system failure
[34:29] Speaker 16: here with respect to this case.
[34:33] Speaker 2: Praise Alndi, principal and founder TML Communications out of Philadelphia.
[34:39] Speaker 15: Well, thank you so much for that well worth of
[34:42] Speaker 15: information that was given. I think my question has to
[34:45] Speaker 15: do with what are some things and some like things
[34:50] Speaker 15: we can look to make sure that this doesn't happen
[34:54] Speaker 15: in our own backyard.
[34:55] Speaker 3: What are some tips and trucks that you can give us?
[34:59] Speaker 16: I would say just on the ground level the community.
[35:03] Speaker 16: You know, you see something, you say something right. School
[35:09] Speaker 16: district employees in New York State are mandated reporters. Jordan
[35:14] Speaker 16: came to school at the age of seven years old
[35:17] Speaker 16: with a faith full of makeup on her body, and
[35:22] Speaker 16: no one thought, you know what, maybe somebody's covering up
[35:26] Speaker 16: something here. You know, a seven year old presenting to
[35:31] Speaker 16: class with heavy makeup. That should have been a red flag.
[35:37] Speaker 16: And so it's just examples such as that that we're
[35:40] Speaker 16: going to be delving into during the course of discovery
[35:43] Speaker 16: in this matter to determine whether or not there were
[35:45] Speaker 16: other factors that were missed and incidents that were missed
[35:49] Speaker 16: by the school and of course CPS.
[35:53] Speaker 19: In the county.
[35:54] Speaker 2: All right then, well as Valmore Visual appreciate it. Keep
[35:58] Speaker 2: us update on what happens next, and Sirly Caduless go
[36:02] Speaker 2: out to Jordan's mother Porsche.
[36:05] Speaker 17: Thank you so much.
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[38:26] Speaker 2: A federal judge the rejecting the Justice Department's attempt to
[38:29] Speaker 2: get the name of the twenty twenty election workers in
[38:31] Speaker 2: Fulton County, Georgia. Today, US District Judge William Ray ruled
[38:34] Speaker 2: that Trump's DJ cannot have the names and personal contact
[38:38] Speaker 2: information for every person who worked during the twenty twenty election.
[38:41] Speaker 2: In April, the Justice Department issued a grand jurisipoena seeking
[38:44] Speaker 2: the names and personal contact info of county employees and
[38:48] Speaker 2: volunteer poll workers. Trump continues to claim, without any evidence,
[38:52] Speaker 2: he's just lying that widespread voter fraud in Fulton County
[38:55] Speaker 2: cost him victory in the state in the twenty twenty election.
[38:58] Speaker 2: Judge Ray wrote in his ruling, giving the low need
[39:01] Speaker 2: for the subpoena information, the highly burdensome nature of the
[39:04] Speaker 2: disclosure of the same the subpoena is unreasonable.
[39:07] Speaker 3: It must be quashed.
[39:08] Speaker 2: While your grand juries often work with federal prosecutors to
[39:11] Speaker 2: investigate alleged crimes, that does not give a DOJ the
[39:14] Speaker 2: right to use the grand juria to do whatever the
[39:17] Speaker 2: DOJ wants. Well, unfortunate Mustafa Trump wants to treats the
[39:22] Speaker 2: DOJ that his own personal attorneys and he's exacting revenge
[39:26] Speaker 2: and bomb line is he lost, period, simple as that
[39:29] Speaker 2: he lost.
[39:31] Speaker 18: He continues to lose when we go to court in many,
[39:34] Speaker 18: many instances because you know, the sets of actions that
[39:38] Speaker 18: they continue to try and move forward on are not
[39:41] Speaker 18: only unlawful in the things that they're trying to implement,
[39:44] Speaker 18: but it's nonsensical. And thankfully we have judges who are
[39:49] Speaker 18: calling them out and not just bending the knee, but
[39:52] Speaker 18: actually focusing on the letter of the law and making
[39:55] Speaker 18: sure that they are implementing it properly. So, you know,
[39:59] Speaker 18: the Department of just This is supposed to be impartial,
[40:01] Speaker 18: it's supposed to be looking out for the people of
[40:04] Speaker 18: the United States, but unfortunately it has been weaponized. But
[40:09] Speaker 18: thankfully there are more talented folks who are on the
[40:12] Speaker 18: outside than those who are currently making decisions on the inside.
[40:15] Speaker 2: It really is pathetic, Teresa, because continues to see what
[40:18] Speaker 2: these fools are doing. But again, he is such a
[40:20] Speaker 2: narcissist and he simply can't handle the fact that Joe
[40:23] Speaker 2: Biden kicked his ass in twenty twenty.
[40:27] Speaker 15: Yeah, Trump is a real character, not only as a
[40:30] Speaker 15: person who as a president. But you know, as much
[40:33] Speaker 15: as he wants to still invoked that he is changing
[40:36] Speaker 15: the past of what has been happening with the previous administration,
[40:40] Speaker 15: he also needs to push to try to figure out
[40:44] Speaker 15: what his agenda really is and the wins he's really had,
[40:48] Speaker 15: because all we've seen right now is him pushing, pushing, pushing,
[40:52] Speaker 15: trying to figure out what his next message is, what
[40:55] Speaker 15: his next deal is, and we really haven't really seen
[40:59] Speaker 15: an actual or foundational apparatus on how he's actually going
[41:04] Speaker 15: to win for the American people. So we haven't seen
[41:05] Speaker 15: that yet, but you know, we definitely still will hear
[41:09] Speaker 15: how he's still trying in the last four years, trying
[41:12] Speaker 15: to right the wrongs of the last administry.
[41:14] Speaker 20: The boy, Yeah, I totally agree with that. You know,
[41:17] Speaker 20: what stood out to me is not the politics, but
[41:19] Speaker 20: it's the process. Even if the government believes it's a
[41:23] Speaker 20: legitimate reason to investigate. Our course exists to make sure
[41:26] Speaker 20: that those investigations stay constitutional. And when we are just
[41:30] Speaker 20: having a dj that does whatever he wants and we
[41:33] Speaker 20: are making decisions to not follow that constitution, you know,
[41:38] Speaker 20: this is what Trump does.
[41:39] Speaker 19: He just doesn't follow the rules, trying to do things
[41:41] Speaker 19: his own way. And we can have a.
[41:44] Speaker 20: Court that follows the administration's goals. That that isn't just
[41:48] Speaker 20: That isn't the way our government is meant to be ran.
[41:50] Speaker 20: That isn't the way the Department of Justice is meant
[41:52] Speaker 20: to be ran. And we have to make sure that
[41:54] Speaker 20: we are continuing to see these situations where Trump lose
[41:59] Speaker 20: and and understand that these subpoenas are broad, they don't
[42:04] Speaker 20: have enough information, they're not strong enough, and you know,
[42:08] Speaker 20: you can't just release personal information of election.
[42:10] Speaker 19: Workers just because you feel like it or because you
[42:13] Speaker 19: want the next elections to go the way in which
[42:15] Speaker 19: you want to go. We know that this is vote oppression.
[42:18] Speaker 20: As best we're doing, They're doing everything in their power
[42:21] Speaker 20: to keep people from getting out to vote, to keep
[42:23] Speaker 20: people from milling in their votes, to keep people from
[42:25] Speaker 20: being able to really you know, be diverse and work
[42:29] Speaker 20: the election polls. So if we target the election workers,
[42:33] Speaker 20: maybe they won't show up. And we know what we've
[42:35] Speaker 20: always done as people of colors, show up and make
[42:38] Speaker 20: sure that we are doing our civic duty. So you know,
[42:42] Speaker 20: can't use the DLJ to do what.
[42:44] Speaker 19: You wanted to do.
[42:45] Speaker 3: Well.
[42:46] Speaker 2: Unfortunately, what we are seeing from a thug and chief
[42:51] Speaker 2: is that he wants to literally cause folks to bend
[42:57] Speaker 2: their knee. The New York Times have this story. Check
[43:01] Speaker 2: this out. Administration demands states change voting rules or lose
[43:07] Speaker 2: anti tirorism funds. FELL officials said they would withhold some
[43:11] Speaker 2: money unless states pursue paper ballot systems, verify citizenship, and
[43:16] Speaker 2: conduct costly audits.
[43:17] Speaker 3: I mean, this is just the latest stupidity of these people.
[43:22] Speaker 2: It's his FEMA, part of the Homeland Security Department, has
[43:24] Speaker 2: told Stacy they would withhold twenty percent of some terrorism
[43:28] Speaker 2: preparedness grants unless they provide quote proof of compliance with
[43:32] Speaker 2: the election security measures. The grants, which total one billion
[43:35] Speaker 2: each year, helped pay for physical barriers and other security measures,
[43:39] Speaker 2: as well as planning and drill exercises and cybersecurity protections.
[43:44] Speaker 2: They've been in blocked with this nonsens through federal course,
[43:46] Speaker 2: but they're going to continue doing.
[43:48] Speaker 3: It over and over and over and over and over again. Zabore.
[43:52] Speaker 20: Definitely, this is what our president does. He doesn't have
[43:56] Speaker 20: proper information. He just attacks things on how or he feels,
[44:00] Speaker 20: and his goal is to uphold racism, uphold white supremacy,
[44:06] Speaker 20: not think about what is actually a legitimate concern and
[44:10] Speaker 20: focus on the things that we really need to concern
[44:13] Speaker 20: and he really just doesn't have the knowledge to do
[44:15] Speaker 20: those things. And so if we keep having systems and
[44:19] Speaker 20: people and all of these people support his ignorance, we
[44:23] Speaker 20: keep getting in these same spots. They're attacking voting rights,
[44:27] Speaker 20: not because anything has been proven. Time and time again,
[44:30] Speaker 20: we keep seeing that it's actually been the opposite of
[44:33] Speaker 20: what he said. Our elections have been fair, Our elections
[44:36] Speaker 20: are doing the things that they're supposed to do, but
[44:39] Speaker 20: we're attacking them just because you know that you're not
[44:43] Speaker 20: doing anything to make.
[44:44] Speaker 19: People continue to support you. See your support dwindling. You
[44:48] Speaker 19: see how.
[44:51] Speaker 20: This attacked on voters are really impacting us. And as
[44:54] Speaker 20: a woman and thinking of the saying and thinking of
[44:56] Speaker 20: the obstacles that they're doing to try to keep us
[44:59] Speaker 20: from vote. And it's just really important that we stay
[45:02] Speaker 20: vigilant and we really attack them and work hard to.
[45:05] Speaker 19: Ensure that they're not able to dismountle our voting rights.
[45:09] Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look at this one. Here Mustafa another
[45:12] Speaker 2: New York Times story. Justice Department threatens top election officials
[45:16] Speaker 2: over non citizen voting. Look, the letters come amid President
[45:21] Speaker 2: Trump's efforts to tighten election rules to prevent a problem
[45:24] Speaker 2: that doesn't exist, widespread non citizen voting. They send this
[45:28] Speaker 2: idiot right here a heart meet Dylan, who is literally
[45:32] Speaker 2: an evil, despicable person. They sent letters to eleven states
[45:37] Speaker 2: threatening criminal prosecution if ballots were cast by non citizens.
[45:44] Speaker 18: Well, let's be clear, So everybody understands that if you
[45:47] Speaker 18: are not a citizen, you cannot vote.
[45:50] Speaker 3: Existing laws say that it does so.
[45:55] Speaker 8: But they want to pretend like it doesn't and that
[45:58] Speaker 8: there is a problem.
[45:58] Speaker 18: We know that the only problem is is that they
[46:01] Speaker 18: have no policies that attract you know, the vast majority
[46:05] Speaker 18: of Americans. So they try and play around here on
[46:08] Speaker 18: the fringes of this, even the folks who come from
[46:10] Speaker 18: their own party.
[46:11] Speaker 8: When you look at the state of Georgia, you know, the.
[46:14] Speaker 18: Heads of the government there have even said that there
[46:17] Speaker 18: was no irregularities, there was no voter fraud, none of
[46:21] Speaker 18: those different types of things. But they continue to, you know,
[46:24] Speaker 18: try and peddle this type of story to folks who
[46:28] Speaker 18: don't know any better or who only get their information
[46:30] Speaker 18: from one source. The other part of it is is
[46:33] Speaker 18: that remember he talked about cleaning up the swamp, right,
[46:36] Speaker 18: that was his big thing or one of his big things.
[46:38] Speaker 18: Now we're not even going to talk about the reflecting
[46:40] Speaker 18: pool in the swamp that he created there. But what
[46:42] Speaker 18: he did, the way he thought he could get rid
[46:44] Speaker 18: of the swamp was to move the swamp all across
[46:47] Speaker 18: the country. And that's exactly what's going on now.
[46:49] Speaker 8: Folks. Remember, they are using your tax dollars to go.
[46:53] Speaker 18: After you know, this this misinformation that they continue to peddle,
[46:58] Speaker 18: to go after these non exaus existance sets of stories
[47:01] Speaker 18: and actions that are going on. So, yeah, these people
[47:04] Speaker 18: are devilish in many ways, but they are also affecting
[47:08] Speaker 18: your pocketbook. They are affecting programs that these dollars should
[47:12] Speaker 18: go to. And the last point that I'll make is
[47:14] Speaker 18: that when you you know, the last two stories here
[47:16] Speaker 18: that we just talked about. You know, whether you're talking
[47:18] Speaker 18: about terrorism or you're talking about environmental protection, you're talking
[47:21] Speaker 18: about the impacts that are going to happen from many
[47:24] Speaker 18: of these storms and wildfires. You know, they threaten folks
[47:28] Speaker 18: that if you don't do something else over here, that
[47:31] Speaker 18: you won't have the dollars that are necessary to help
[47:34] Speaker 18: folks to be safe and to be able to be
[47:37] Speaker 18: protected and to be able to move forward.
[47:39] Speaker 8: So we should really be.
[47:40] Speaker 18: Giving that strong consideration when you go to the ballot box.
[47:43] Speaker 18: Do you want an administration who cares about you, that's
[47:46] Speaker 18: focused on the issues that are central.
[47:49] Speaker 8: To your life?
[47:50] Speaker 18: Or do you want an administration that continues to follow
[47:53] Speaker 18: ghosts and to follow these negative disinformation sets of actions
[47:58] Speaker 18: that have nothing to do with your everyday life.
[48:02] Speaker 2: This was so crazy. There's unbelievable reason. Go back to
[48:07] Speaker 2: my iPad, it says. The letters sit on Tuesday come
[48:10] Speaker 2: from Harmeat Dylon, who runs a Justice Department civil rights division.
[48:13] Speaker 2: They're largely identical to multiple copies obtained by The New
[48:17] Speaker 2: York Times. The seven page letters detail a host of
[48:20] Speaker 2: federal election laws that prohibit non citizens from voting an elections.
[48:25] Speaker 2: Laws that have been clear for decades. You know, election
[48:28] Speaker 2: officials should write back going duh, You're right.
[48:34] Speaker 15: You know one thing about Trump's administration. They know how
[48:36] Speaker 15: to keep people distracted because there are so many things
[48:40] Speaker 15: happening internationally right now that He's like, instead of people
[48:44] Speaker 15: focusing on that, let's focus on the stuff that's already changed,
[48:47] Speaker 15: but will make it seem like it isn't changed, so
[48:50] Speaker 15: we can.
[48:50] Speaker 19: Just have something else to do.
[48:52] Speaker 15: I was on social media the other day, probably two
[48:55] Speaker 15: days ago, and I saw something about Trump accounts right
[48:58] Speaker 15: for young people to say, And I just said, what
[49:01] Speaker 15: is our government telling us to do to sign up
[49:04] Speaker 15: for a Trump account that we don't know? I guess
[49:07] Speaker 15: fdic approud, I guess the other banks are doing the
[49:10] Speaker 15: same thing, Citizen B and.
[49:11] Speaker 3: C and where have you.
[49:13] Speaker 15: And it's just like a massive distraction campaign that I
[49:16] Speaker 15: think they just sit there in their offices. Okay, this
[49:20] Speaker 15: is a bigger issue we have to deal with, But
[49:23] Speaker 15: how do we distract the American people on something tedious
[49:25] Speaker 15: so they don't come protests on something else? So I
[49:28] Speaker 15: think this is the ongoing tiresy that we're seeing coming
[49:32] Speaker 15: from this administration. And I'm not sure if we're gonna
[49:35] Speaker 15: let up anytime soon while he's still there.
[49:41] Speaker 3: Yeah. Pretty pretty crazy, are folks.
[49:45] Speaker 2: June twenty seventh, we were in Richmond, Virginia for the
[49:48] Speaker 2: Democrats Commonwealth Gala. Had an opportunity to catch up with
[49:52] Speaker 2: Governor ABAGAILT. Spanberger as well as Attorney General Jones, as
[49:57] Speaker 2: well as other officials, and so we're going to bring
[50:00] Speaker 2: a lot of those interviews to you. If you saw
[50:02] Speaker 2: a live stream that night, maybe So here's my conversation
[50:05] Speaker 2: with Governors span Order.
[50:07] Speaker 3: Last time we talked you in a car. Grab that
[50:10] Speaker 3: you in a car.
[50:11] Speaker 4: This is a much better location.
[50:12] Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely it is. You were a member of Congress,
[50:17] Speaker 2: you know how that works, but being governor is a
[50:19] Speaker 2: lot different.
[50:20] Speaker 3: So how has that transition being for the last six months.
[50:23] Speaker 5: It's been fantastic. We've had a busy, busy first six months.
[50:27] Speaker 5: Certainly we worked in partnership with the General Assembly on
[50:29] Speaker 5: a whole host of priorities, lowering costs, strengthening our communities,
[50:33] Speaker 5: investing in public schools, and also through my administration, we've
[50:37] Speaker 5: been focused on making some real reforms within our state agencies.
[50:41] Speaker 3: Just this past week, we did a press release.
[50:43] Speaker 5: And a press conference talking about some of the major
[50:45] Speaker 5: overhauls we've done with the Department of Corrections to strengthen
[50:49] Speaker 5: a system and make sure that we're taking care of
[50:51] Speaker 5: all of our community members and fixing some things that
[50:54] Speaker 5: are systemically broken. And we're off to a strong start,
[50:59] Speaker 5: and I look forward to the next three and a
[51:01] Speaker 5: half years.
[51:02] Speaker 2: It's a lot easier to have a trifecta when you
[51:04] Speaker 2: control the House and the Senate as opposed to having
[51:09] Speaker 2: the opposing party control it. But it also means, though
[51:13] Speaker 2: that no excuse is about not delivering. When a public says,
[51:17] Speaker 2: wait a minute, y'all.
[51:18] Speaker 5: Control all of it, that's right, that's right, And it
[51:21] Speaker 5: means that we have to make sure that we're holding
[51:23] Speaker 5: ourselves accountable. Certainly, the things that I talked about on
[51:26] Speaker 5: the campaign trail when I was running for governor, and
[51:29] Speaker 5: so much of what the sixty four members of the
[51:32] Speaker 5: House of Delegates who were on the ballot with me.
[51:35] Speaker 5: We talked about issues of affordability, we talked about lowering
[51:38] Speaker 5: costs and healthcare.
[51:39] Speaker 19: I'm really proud of some.
[51:41] Speaker 5: Of the prescription drug related legislation that they pushed through.
[51:45] Speaker 5: We got signed into law, a number of really innovative
[51:47] Speaker 5: and we heard Senator Warner talk about some of the
[51:49] Speaker 5: housing priorities that we've done here in Virginia models for
[51:52] Speaker 5: the rest of the country.
[51:53] Speaker 4: Renewablely.
[51:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, I here, I'm talking about in his seven times
[51:55] Speaker 2: seven times seven speet when it comes over here, I'm
[51:59] Speaker 2: gonna remind him at that Tenerary says seven minutes.
[52:02] Speaker 3: What I'm just saying.
[52:03] Speaker 5: No one can stop Senator Mark Warner, that senior senator
[52:06] Speaker 5: from Virginia.
[52:07] Speaker 3: But he was on fire, so I was happy to
[52:09] Speaker 3: start and go on the.
[52:11] Speaker 2: Thing that I interviewed cons with Haakim Jeffries two days ago,
[52:15] Speaker 2: and I was talking about how do you really speak
[52:20] Speaker 2: driving grassroots for African American voters?
[52:23] Speaker 3: And he talked about what happened here in this state.
[52:26] Speaker 3: Was Speaker Don Scott did the campaigns that were run here?
[52:30] Speaker 2: So I'm curious, are Democrats in other parts of the country?
[52:33] Speaker 2: And I asked to Speaker of Scott and he said
[52:35] Speaker 2: the answer.
[52:35] Speaker 3: Was no, are they?
[52:37] Speaker 2: Is leadership talking to folks here to say, Okay, not
[52:41] Speaker 2: only how were you able to take back the House,
[52:44] Speaker 2: control the Senate, take back the governor's mansion, but even
[52:47] Speaker 2: when it came to the special election, with the Supreme
[52:49] Speaker 2: Court of the State throughout and I still don't understand
[52:51] Speaker 2: their reasoning. Are they actually studying what happened and listening
[52:56] Speaker 2: to understand how to replicate this nationally?
[53:00] Speaker 5: Not as much as I think people should be. And
[53:03] Speaker 5: I'll tell you again, I presume Speaker Scott probably said
[53:07] Speaker 5: a lot of the same things. Virginia is a really
[53:09] Speaker 5: representative state as it relates to the rest of the country,
[53:13] Speaker 5: whether it's our rural communities or our urban communities, whether
[53:17] Speaker 5: it's our agriculture or our industry. We have really population
[53:22] Speaker 5: and Latino communities, South Asian communities. We have strong and
[53:26] Speaker 5: vibrant Black communities in cities and in leadership, and also
[53:30] Speaker 5: so much of what you see throughout the South, which
[53:31] Speaker 5: is rural, agricultural black farmers who for so long have
[53:34] Speaker 5: gotten forgotten. So across Virginia we have so much of
[53:39] Speaker 5: what exists at the national level. And what we were
[53:41] Speaker 5: able to do in twenty twenty five flipping our three
[53:44] Speaker 5: state wide seats, flipping fourteen thirteen seats in the House
[53:48] Speaker 5: of Delegates, and as you mentioned, in the referendum, which
[53:53] Speaker 5: was in April, a totally random time for an election,
[53:56] Speaker 5: not only did we vote and pass that referendum redistricting. Now,
[54:00] Speaker 5: as you mentioned, the Supreme Court of Virginia returned it.
[54:03] Speaker 5: But just back in twenty twenty, we had sixty six
[54:09] Speaker 5: percent of the people voted for our redistricting amendment. So
[54:12] Speaker 5: that speaks to how substantially we made the argument about
[54:15] Speaker 5: the urgency of that temporary, responsive fix. And I think
[54:19] Speaker 5: there's a lot to be learned from Virginia. Of course
[54:21] Speaker 5: I'm biased as the governor of Virginia, but truly our
[54:24] Speaker 5: communities and what we were able to do it was
[54:26] Speaker 5: highly tactical, highly engaged, and we basically as a coordinated
[54:31] Speaker 5: campaign decided we have to make sure that of course
[54:34] Speaker 5: there are people who are deeply engaged voters, but it
[54:37] Speaker 5: is about reaching people in the places where they are,
[54:41] Speaker 5: where they're most comfortable, so that they don't have to
[54:43] Speaker 5: come to us all the time.
[54:44] Speaker 19: And so I mean between the bus tours and the.
[54:47] Speaker 5: Visits to churches and faith centers and community events, we
[54:54] Speaker 5: just did the back to the basics, deep community driven campaigning.
[54:58] Speaker 3: All of us did rush for you as a part
[55:01] Speaker 3: of that.
[55:01] Speaker 2: When I look at the numbers, when I saw the
[55:03] Speaker 2: black turnout, especially in those last few days and on
[55:07] Speaker 2: election day significant and what I've said to numerous strategists
[55:12] Speaker 2: that you can't run an old playbook, that you're gonna
[55:15] Speaker 2: have to spend three to four as much time and
[55:19] Speaker 2: you're gonna spend three to four three to four times
[55:20] Speaker 2: that much money because the model twenty years ago, the
[55:24] Speaker 2: Obama model, does not work.
[55:26] Speaker 3: The Jackson model does not work.
[55:27] Speaker 2: And I think in too many cases we have seen
[55:30] Speaker 2: the last six elections national we've seen a decrease in
[55:33] Speaker 2: black vital turnout because strategists are spending their time saying no, no,
[55:37] Speaker 2: we got them, and I'm like, no, you're gonna have
[55:40] Speaker 2: to talk to them over and over and over again,
[55:43] Speaker 2: not just assume that African American voters are going to
[55:45] Speaker 2: sup vote Democratic.
[55:46] Speaker 5: And the thing where it comes down to is it's
[55:48] Speaker 5: people are busy, and life is hard, and gas prices
[55:51] Speaker 5: are going up, and you're worried about your kids, right,
[55:54] Speaker 5: And it's about connecting the dots. And so even if
[55:58] Speaker 5: you think somebody might be likely vote for a Democrat,
[56:02] Speaker 5: if they get out and vote, it's about making sure
[56:05] Speaker 5: that you're giving them a reason to believe that it's
[56:08] Speaker 5: worth it and giving them a reason to know because
[56:12] Speaker 5: you're there, you're showing up, you're talking about the issues
[56:14] Speaker 5: that are mattering to them, and that counts for all voters,
[56:18] Speaker 5: but particularly We talked so frequently about the fact that
[56:21] Speaker 5: you know, there's turnout efforts for black voters. But but
[56:24] Speaker 5: what we did in Virginia was a longer term communication
[56:27] Speaker 5: effort to make sure that you know, yes, the person
[56:30] Speaker 5: who's going to go out and vote, Okay, they're going
[56:32] Speaker 5: to go out and vote, but let's make sure they
[56:33] Speaker 5: have the information right to talk to their friends the
[56:37] Speaker 5: and yes and so that not only are yes they're
[56:40] Speaker 5: going to check that box when they go to the ballot,
[56:42] Speaker 5: but they're going to inspire and excite and engage their
[56:46] Speaker 5: friends and family to do the same.
[56:47] Speaker 2: Absolutely well, going to Abags Bamberger, glad to be here,
[56:50] Speaker 2: Glad to see you, and I apprecid you stopping by.
[56:52] Speaker 19: Taking to the dance floor.
[56:53] Speaker 3: We're Democrats.
[56:54] Speaker 2: Oh I'm look, I'm always dancing, so I've never called
[56:58] Speaker 2: myself anything, but I do call myself a dancer. But
[57:01] Speaker 2: I gotta due work so y'all can enjoy it. But
[57:03] Speaker 2: I gotta do a little.
[57:04] Speaker 3: Bit more work. And Senator Warner is going to be.
[57:06] Speaker 2: Coming over here soon, so I'm gonna make sure he
[57:08] Speaker 2: does not go twenty five minutes.
[57:09] Speaker 3: Now, good luck with that man, friends, hard folks, gotta
[57:14] Speaker 3: go to a break.
[57:15] Speaker 2: We come back, we'll talk with the attorney for the
[57:17] Speaker 2: those families Mississippi suing over them being body search. Also,
[57:23] Speaker 2: Donald Trump falls asleep again overseas and then he's also
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[59:53] Speaker 18: Hatred on the Streets a horrific scene white nationalist rally
[59:57] Speaker 18: that descended into deadly violence.
[1:00:01] Speaker 3: Well not white people are moving their their minds.
[1:00:06] Speaker 21: As a angry pro Trump mob storms the US capital ship.
[1:00:10] Speaker 3: We're about to see the rise what I call white
[1:00:12] Speaker 3: minority resistance.
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: We have seen white folks in this country who simply
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: cannot tolerate black folks voting.
[1:00:20] Speaker 22: I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
[1:00:24] Speaker 22: violent denial.
[1:00:25] Speaker 8: This is part of American history.
[1:00:26] Speaker 23: Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
[1:00:30] Speaker 23: real or.
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: Symbolic, there has been but Carol Anderson at every university
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: calls white rage as a backlash. This is the right
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: of the proud boys and the Boogaaloo boys America.
[1:00:40] Speaker 3: There's going to be more of this, the provo.
[1:00:43] Speaker 24: This country is getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and
[1:00:47] Speaker 24: its attitudes because of the fear of white people the food.
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: That they're taking our jobs, they're taking out our resources,
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: they're taking out women.
[1:00:56] Speaker 3: This is white being this and this is David Mann,
[1:01:11] Speaker 3: and you're watching roland Mark unfilter.
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: Is assuming the Atala County School District for unlawfully strip
[1:01:30] Speaker 2: searching students at mcadam's High School for allegedly having vapes.
[1:01:33] Speaker 2: The search found nothing. Well, uh, those families say it's
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: time for y'all to pay up. Keith French, Uh is
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: the attorney for the families. Keith glad to have you here.
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: Uh.
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: And so so you have seveny families here. At any
[1:01:47] Speaker 2: point were these families called before these students were strip searched.
[1:01:54] Speaker 23: No, the families weren't called at all.
[1:01:57] Speaker 25: And for us, in fact, the children were not getting
[1:02:00] Speaker 25: a meaningful explanation for it at the time, and they
[1:02:02] Speaker 25: were made to believe that they had no real choice.
[1:02:05] Speaker 25: So they were coerced by the school officials involved and
[1:02:09] Speaker 25: told either you submit yourself to the school search or
[1:02:13] Speaker 25: you can endure a suspension. So after that, one by
[1:02:17] Speaker 25: one they forced each student to enter a room alone.
[1:02:21] Speaker 25: They weren't exactly sure what was about to happen to them,
[1:02:24] Speaker 25: but when they got there, they were forced to strip
[1:02:26] Speaker 25: off their pants and undergarments expose their enimate areas, including
[1:02:31] Speaker 25: their genitals.
[1:02:32] Speaker 23: They were told to bendover.
[1:02:33] Speaker 25: And squat while a school official subjected them to degrading
[1:02:37] Speaker 25: and deeply intrusive searches.
[1:02:40] Speaker 23: You know, it stripped them not.
[1:02:41] Speaker 25: Only of their privacy with their dignity, but some contraband
[1:02:44] Speaker 25: or weapons were found.
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: And when you say strip search were they was it
[1:02:48] Speaker 2: closed off or they were they stripped, neked their underwear.
[1:02:52] Speaker 25: Their underwear were taken off, so their genitals were exposed
[1:02:56] Speaker 25: when they were forced to bendover and squad.
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: So they were stripped as if they were prisoners. When
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: people go to prison, they actually have them, they're nicked
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: and spread butt cheeks.
[1:03:08] Speaker 3: That's what they did here.
[1:03:10] Speaker 25: That's right, that's right, you know, which which you know
[1:03:14] Speaker 25: really opens the door to this case about a broader issue.
[1:03:19] Speaker 25: You know, we don't have enough evidence to speak the
[1:03:22] Speaker 25: motive in this case, But scenarios like this begs the question,
[1:03:25] Speaker 25: you know, when government officials encountered black children from low
[1:03:28] Speaker 25: income backgrounds, do they see children first or do they
[1:03:31] Speaker 25: see suspects?
[1:03:35] Speaker 3: This obviously is.
[1:03:39] Speaker 2: Shocking, a stunning Uh and uh So what happened after
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: it happened? What these kids came home told family members
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: of what took place? And did they then reach out
[1:03:50] Speaker 2: to the school district?
[1:03:53] Speaker 23: Not exactly.
[1:03:54] Speaker 25: The kids were actually too humiliated and in bears to
[1:03:57] Speaker 25: tell their parents. I mean, you can imagine being sixteen
[1:04:01] Speaker 25: or seventeen years old having to sit across from your
[1:04:04] Speaker 25: parents and tell them, you know.
[1:04:07] Speaker 23: I went into the room with an adult and had
[1:04:08] Speaker 23: to pull down my underwear.
[1:04:10] Speaker 25: So they didn't tell them. There was only one student.
[1:04:13] Speaker 25: The kids didn't discuss it amongst themselves. There was one
[1:04:16] Speaker 25: student whose parents called us. After we had a personal
[1:04:20] Speaker 25: conversation with him, he went ahead and told us the truth.
[1:04:24] Speaker 25: We didn't know whether the other students had been strip
[1:04:27] Speaker 25: searched as well, but I can tell you this that
[1:04:31] Speaker 25: one of the parents actually went and had a meeting
[1:04:35] Speaker 25: with some of the school officials, including the officer involved
[1:04:39] Speaker 25: that conducted the strip search, and in a recording, he
[1:04:43] Speaker 25: admitted to strip searching each and every one of the children.
[1:04:48] Speaker 26: Questions from the panel. First off, Teresa, Yeah one, I'm discussed. Yeah,
[1:05:00] Speaker 26: here's a question for you. So where are you at in.
[1:05:03] Speaker 15: The process, Hollge justice being rendered.
[1:05:10] Speaker 25: We found the a complaint in federal court. We're attempting
[1:05:14] Speaker 25: to serve all the defendants involved in this case. Some
[1:05:18] Speaker 25: of them are being pretty evasive.
[1:05:21] Speaker 3: But once that.
[1:05:21] Speaker 25: Happens, you know, a judge will issue a scheduling order
[1:05:25] Speaker 25: and then we can start to get some discovery and
[1:05:27] Speaker 25: find out, you know, why on earth would a school
[1:05:30] Speaker 25: official do something like this. You know, one of the
[1:05:32] Speaker 25: things that people are missing about this case is that
[1:05:37] Speaker 25: you know, the school official involved had a wand and he.
[1:05:43] Speaker 23: Has heard on this record and also stating that he
[1:05:45] Speaker 23: could have used that wind.
[1:05:47] Speaker 25: In fact, the winds are used exactly for this sort
[1:05:50] Speaker 25: of scenario to check, you know, the kids, to see
[1:05:53] Speaker 25: if they had anything on.
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: But he didn't do it.
[1:05:55] Speaker 25: Instead, he took the extra leap to stript surgeon. And
[1:06:00] Speaker 25: so we want to really find out, you know, what's
[1:06:03] Speaker 25: the reasoning about this. There's a broader context where black
[1:06:07] Speaker 25: students in Mississippi face significantly disproportioned at school discipline rates,
[1:06:12] Speaker 25: especially compared to their white peers. You know, of course
[1:06:15] Speaker 25: they're suspended and expelled at for our higher rates, but
[1:06:19] Speaker 25: they're also disciplined at a much higher rate, and they
[1:06:22] Speaker 25: received more, much more severe punishment, you know. So, you know,
[1:06:26] Speaker 25: federal guidelines to address these disparities and school discipline actually
[1:06:31] Speaker 25: came under President of Barack Obama and it's twenty fourteen administration.
[1:06:35] Speaker 3: You know, federal officials and.
[1:06:37] Speaker 25: Courage restorative justice practices that didn't criminalize students and push
[1:06:41] Speaker 25: them to become you know, a school.
[1:06:43] Speaker 23: To prisons to test it.
[1:06:45] Speaker 8: But those rules were rolled back.
[1:06:46] Speaker 25: By President Donald Trump's administration, and somehow I feel like
[1:06:49] Speaker 25: in discovery we might find out that this might be
[1:06:52] Speaker 25: a regular occurrence because the kids, you know, at first,
[1:06:57] Speaker 25: at first.
[1:06:58] Speaker 3: Didn't say anything about it, Zamora.
[1:07:07] Speaker 20: So what really concerns me is I'm just wondering, at
[1:07:10] Speaker 20: what point does a strip search move from being just
[1:07:14] Speaker 20: school a school discipline issue and become more of a
[1:07:17] Speaker 20: violation of that child's constitutional rights and even raise concerns
[1:07:21] Speaker 20: about child abuse and thinking of sexual assault towards a child,
[1:07:25] Speaker 20: and what legal protections. Do these minors and their families
[1:07:29] Speaker 20: have the situations like this?
[1:07:32] Speaker 25: Yeah, well, when you read the facts of this case,
[1:07:35] Speaker 25: you know, it's not a large jump or to presume that,
[1:07:39] Speaker 25: you know, there is something perverted about doing something like
[1:07:43] Speaker 25: this with kids.
[1:07:45] Speaker 23: But yeah, we absolutely that's what we found.
[1:07:49] Speaker 25: Our claims are fourth amending claims for unreasonable search and
[1:07:52] Speaker 25: seizure and fourteen Amending claims. You know, school searches they
[1:07:56] Speaker 25: don't require warrant or probable cause, but they have to
[1:08:00] Speaker 25: reasonable at the start and reasonable in scope, and the
[1:08:03] Speaker 25: search can't be excessively intrusive when you consider the student's age, sex,
[1:08:08] Speaker 25: and the alleged infraction.
[1:08:09] Speaker 23: And keep in mind, these students said that they didn't
[1:08:12] Speaker 23: have a vape.
[1:08:13] Speaker 25: You know, they were just in the bathroom and it
[1:08:15] Speaker 25: was a transition between class periods. You know, so there's
[1:08:21] Speaker 25: no real justification for this official to have crossed the
[1:08:25] Speaker 25: line here. And there's plenty of precedent in the Supreme
[1:08:29] Speaker 25: Court in the Fifth Circuit, which Mississippi is in.
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: You know, that says it.
[1:08:34] Speaker 25: You know, reasonable suspicion is not a blank check. The
[1:08:36] Speaker 25: more invasive the search, the stronger and more specific the justification.
[1:08:40] Speaker 5: Must be.
[1:08:41] Speaker 25: You know, there wasn't any exigence circumstances where there was
[1:08:45] Speaker 25: someone thought a weapon was around, or somebody could have
[1:08:48] Speaker 25: been harmed, nothing of the sort.
[1:08:51] Speaker 23: You know, But the officer did what he did. So
[1:08:53] Speaker 23: that's what we're doing.
[1:08:54] Speaker 25: We're following a lawsuit based on the violation of their
[1:08:58] Speaker 25: constitutional rights.
[1:09:00] Speaker 23: You know, the burden is not on the children to
[1:09:03] Speaker 23: resist government authority. The burden is on the government.
[1:09:06] Speaker 25: Officials who had to act lawfully before conducting an invasive search.
[1:09:11] Speaker 25: So you know, legally speaking, the children could have actually said,
[1:09:17] Speaker 25: you know, absolutely no, we don't want to be searched.
[1:09:20] Speaker 25: But practically, you know, these are children and the adults
[1:09:23] Speaker 25: have the power in this scenario, so they felt like
[1:09:26] Speaker 25: they didn't have a choice, especially when you're threatening and
[1:09:28] Speaker 25: threatening them with suspension.
[1:09:31] Speaker 8: Well, Stapa, I mean, this is just so messed up
[1:09:36] Speaker 8: on so many levels. You know, Mississippi has a long history.
[1:09:39] Speaker 18: Everybody remembers the auction blocks and they bring people up
[1:09:43] Speaker 18: on those auction blocks and you be stripped down and
[1:09:45] Speaker 18: have to show your genitalia and your teeth and all
[1:09:47] Speaker 18: this other stuff.
[1:09:49] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:09:49] Speaker 18: The question is one is you answered about the sexual
[1:09:52] Speaker 18: abuse sort of element of this. The other one is
[1:09:55] Speaker 18: the mental health abuse, because when you go through a
[1:09:58] Speaker 18: situation like this, I have a psychology background, you know,
[1:10:02] Speaker 18: it can be a lot of therapy that's needed to
[1:10:05] Speaker 18: help you to understand that you still have value and
[1:10:08] Speaker 18: that you're still a human. I'm curious what parts of
[1:10:11] Speaker 18: those elements might come into this case.
[1:10:15] Speaker 23: Absolutely right, they're part of the damages.
[1:10:17] Speaker 25: You know, we've had some of the students. You know,
[1:10:19] Speaker 25: there were non students total, I of represent seven of them.
[1:10:22] Speaker 25: We've had some students that, you know, they're they're scared,
[1:10:26] Speaker 25: they're dealing with a lot of anxiety.
[1:10:28] Speaker 3: One of the.
[1:10:28] Speaker 25: Students stopped going back to school because here's another big shocker.
[1:10:33] Speaker 23: The officer and school officials involved were allowed to stay.
[1:10:36] Speaker 25: On campus for the remainder of the year, So these
[1:10:39] Speaker 25: students were too scared to go to school. We have
[1:10:43] Speaker 25: one student that went to school, but it was too
[1:10:44] Speaker 25: scared to go to the bathroom and use the bathroom,
[1:10:47] Speaker 25: so he had to call his parents so they can
[1:10:49] Speaker 25: come come pick them up.
[1:10:50] Speaker 23: You know, one of the couple of the students are
[1:10:52] Speaker 23: on medication.
[1:10:53] Speaker 21: Now.
[1:10:53] Speaker 25: They're all receiving some sort of treatment, and we do
[1:10:57] Speaker 25: know that students who are suspended or otherwise kicked out
[1:11:01] Speaker 25: of the classroom or or receive some severe punishment, they're
[1:11:07] Speaker 25: more likely to have anger issues and become disconnected from
[1:11:12] Speaker 25: their classmates and the school environment, and then they're more
[1:11:15] Speaker 25: likely to be disengaged from school. That's why these disparities
[1:11:18] Speaker 25: with this sort of disciplinary framing against k black children,
[1:11:22] Speaker 25: especially from low income areas, are so important to prevent
[1:11:26] Speaker 25: and bring awareness to because it's part of the school
[1:11:28] Speaker 25: the prison pipeline. You know, they'll start missing out on
[1:11:30] Speaker 25: learning time and likely have worse academic outcomes, including you know.
[1:11:35] Speaker 23: Worse race of graduation.
[1:11:37] Speaker 25: So, of course, across the country, you know, we've debated
[1:11:40] Speaker 25: the limits on government authority over children in schools, at borders,
[1:11:45] Speaker 25: during police encounters. You know, regardless where somebody falls politically,
[1:11:50] Speaker 25: there's a broad agreement or it should be on one principle,
[1:11:53] Speaker 25: and that's the children should occupy you know, very special
[1:11:56] Speaker 25: constitutional and moral position because they're uniquely vulnerable, and that's
[1:12:01] Speaker 25: what the Constitution is meant for. I'm supposed to protect
[1:12:05] Speaker 25: those the vulnerable children just as much as those who
[1:12:09] Speaker 25: are privileged.
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: All right, then we'll keep us a breast Keith of
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: what happens next. We appreciate it.
[1:12:14] Speaker 3: Thanks a lot. Thank you, folks.
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[1:14:09] Speaker 14: It's God be the funniest dude on the planet, and you're.
[1:14:12] Speaker 19: Watching Roland Martin unfiltering.
[1:14:39] Speaker 2: I keep telling y'all about this war on Black America
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: from Republicans Donald Trump and MAGA, and you better believe it.
[1:14:46] Speaker 3: Now. Last week's jobs.
[1:14:48] Speaker 2: Report reville that the black unemployment rate remains double that
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: of the white rate.
[1:14:53] Speaker 3: Now, let's be real clear.
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: In April it was seven point three percent, May and
[1:14:57] Speaker 2: June six point six percent. Okay, Now, however, a black
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: unemployment for black unemployment black men dropped the five point
[1:15:03] Speaker 2: eight percent for black women, it increased to five point
[1:15:06] Speaker 2: seven percent. Now Donald Trump continues just to ignore it.
[1:15:10] Speaker 2: Now check this out if you want to see how
[1:15:12] Speaker 2: much of a liar he is. Last mon speaking to
[1:15:16] Speaker 2: a group of farmers in western Wisconsin. You know the
[1:15:18] Speaker 2: people who he who has devastated. He just fled out
[1:15:22] Speaker 2: liight about black unemployment.
[1:15:26] Speaker 27: This is something that's amazing. African American unemployment is now
[1:15:31] Speaker 27: doing better than it's ever done. And I don't know
[1:15:36] Speaker 27: where that SAT came from, but i'll take it. I
[1:15:39] Speaker 27: don't know where the hell that's SAT kept, but we'll
[1:15:41] Speaker 27: take it. And a short time ago, we were a
[1:15:43] Speaker 27: dead country. We're dead as a door nail. If you
[1:15:46] Speaker 27: look go back two years, we were laughing.
[1:15:49] Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So I just want to be clear.
[1:15:53] Speaker 2: I don't know where the hell that came from, but
[1:15:55] Speaker 2: i'll take it.
[1:15:55] Speaker 3: Play it again.
[1:15:58] Speaker 27: Something that this is, This is something that's amazing. African
[1:16:04] Speaker 27: American unemployment is now doing better than it's ever done.
[1:16:09] Speaker 14: And I don't know where that SAT came from, but
[1:16:12] Speaker 14: I'll take it.
[1:16:13] Speaker 27: I don't know that's SAT camp, but we'll take it.
[1:16:17] Speaker 27: And a short time ago we were a dead country.
[1:16:19] Speaker 27: We're dead as a door nail. If you look go
[1:16:22] Speaker 27: back two years, we were laughing sock all over the world.
[1:16:25] Speaker 27: We had a president that couldn't walk up a flight
[1:16:27] Speaker 27: of stairs.
[1:16:28] Speaker 2: Oh really, okay, all right, So first of all, let's
[1:16:32] Speaker 2: deal with the lies there. In the first term of Trump,
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: black unemployment went down to a record five point three percent.
[1:16:42] Speaker 2: Record didn't last long because under President Joe Biden, black
[1:16:46] Speaker 2: unemployment hit eight record low of four point eight percent.
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: That was an April of two thousand and twenty three.
[1:16:55] Speaker 2: So when Trump said that, now put the black employment
[1:17:00] Speaker 2: numbers up, y'all. So this was last month, So that
[1:17:03] Speaker 2: means that the and the June jobs report were the
[1:17:07] Speaker 2: main numbers.
[1:17:07] Speaker 3: Y'all. It's right there at six point six percent.
[1:17:11] Speaker 2: In fact, the New York Times even lays out that
[1:17:15] Speaker 2: black unemployment had had gone up above eight percent and
[1:17:23] Speaker 2: then it settled back down.
[1:17:25] Speaker 3: It's right here.
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: Black undeployment reached the record low of five point three
[1:17:28] Speaker 2: percent during mister Trump's first term. The record was shattered
[1:17:31] Speaker 2: by President by It in twenty twenty three, when it
[1:17:33] Speaker 2: fell to four point eight percent in mister Trump's second term,
[1:17:36] Speaker 2: the greatest increase since he was sworn into office January
[1:17:39] Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, when was six point two percent. It
[1:17:41] Speaker 2: has not fallen below six percent since then, and it
[1:17:44] Speaker 2: peaked at eight percent last fall. So the liar in
[1:17:50] Speaker 2: chief just straight up live. And now people are like,
[1:17:53] Speaker 2: oh my god, that's great. I wonder how many black
[1:17:55] Speaker 2: people were actually in the audience Western Wisconsin. I out none,
[1:18:02] Speaker 2: But you see what's going on here, And so he
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: doesn't care. He doesn't care. But youry to recognize he
[1:18:09] Speaker 2: doesn't care because when he was saying during the campaign
[1:18:13] Speaker 2: or I car about black and black unemployment, and these
[1:18:16] Speaker 2: simple simons believed them.
[1:18:18] Speaker 3: They were stupid. We knew he was lying. We tried
[1:18:22] Speaker 3: to tell you. And all of his policies.
[1:18:27] Speaker 2: Since the moment he was inaugurated has been to target
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: and attack Black America. And so you really had to
[1:18:36] Speaker 2: be stupid to be black and support Donald Trump when
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: everything that they are doing is about destroying Black America.
[1:18:45] Speaker 3: And I keep telling y'all he.
[1:18:47] Speaker 2: Will lie about a lie, and he sat there and
[1:18:51] Speaker 2: lied about those unemployment numbers.
[1:18:54] Speaker 8: Ustafa, Yeah, well, you know that's part for the course
[1:18:58] Speaker 8: for this administration. They they continue to put these false
[1:19:01] Speaker 8: narratives out there.
[1:19:02] Speaker 28: It was kind of interested though when he talked about
[1:19:05] Speaker 28: the statistic, I know he would to look at the.
[1:19:07] Speaker 18: Side and say, how the hell did that happen because
[1:19:09] Speaker 18: that was not a part of our game plan. But
[1:19:11] Speaker 18: then when you really unpack those numbers, you understand all
[1:19:14] Speaker 18: you have to do is look at the policies that
[1:19:16] Speaker 18: they have implemented. You know, we saw all the black
[1:19:19] Speaker 18: women who lost employment opportunities and got fired or let go.
[1:19:25] Speaker 18: We have also seen black men losing jobs consistently. We
[1:19:28] Speaker 18: also know that they make sure that there's no effort
[1:19:32] Speaker 18: to make sure that there's fairness in the hiring process,
[1:19:35] Speaker 18: and we know who's disproportionately impacted there, so they have
[1:19:38] Speaker 18: no intention of doing anything to help our community to
[1:19:42] Speaker 18: make sure there's fairness in the hiring process. Then you
[1:19:46] Speaker 18: look at the contracting and subcontracting opportunities that are out there,
[1:19:49] Speaker 18: they stripped away any of the protections that are there.
[1:19:52] Speaker 18: So I'm not sure how anyone could possibly think that
[1:19:55] Speaker 18: they've done anything to help our community economically.
[1:20:00] Speaker 3: And here are more lies of bar going back to
[1:20:02] Speaker 3: my iPad.
[1:20:03] Speaker 2: Alison the Shoestra, a White House spokesman and spokeswoman, insisted
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: that mister Trump quote has done more for Black Americas
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: than any other president in recent history.
[1:20:13] Speaker 3: That's total bullshit. She pointed policies in.
[1:20:16] Speaker 2: His first term, which included the previous record low for
[1:20:18] Speaker 2: the black unemployment rate, the e creation, the creation of
[1:20:21] Speaker 2: opportunity zones and distressed housing communities, and the long term
[1:20:25] Speaker 2: funding for historically black cause the universities. Now you know
[1:20:28] Speaker 2: they can't provide any data support any of that quote.
[1:20:31] Speaker 2: The second Trump administration is building on those tremendous successes
[1:20:35] Speaker 2: of making our community safe and beautiful, stopping the flow
[1:20:37] Speaker 2: of the legal migrants who are undermining American workers, signed
[1:20:40] Speaker 2: of the largest working class tax cut in American history,
[1:20:42] Speaker 2: and putting American children on a path towards generation of
[1:20:45] Speaker 2: well through Trump accounts, missus Schuster said, all bullshits of war.
[1:20:51] Speaker 19: Definitely.
[1:20:52] Speaker 20: I mean, just then looking at how much could we've
[1:20:55] Speaker 20: had on diversity, equity and inclusion and accessibility, and how
[1:21:00] Speaker 20: all the supports that we used to have, Like the
[1:21:02] Speaker 20: work Opportunity tax Credit, it hasn't been It was authorized
[1:21:06] Speaker 20: through December twenty twenty five, it hasn't been renewed. That
[1:21:10] Speaker 20: is something where you gave access to individuals that had
[1:21:13] Speaker 20: disabilities that people that were getting out of the criminal
[1:21:18] Speaker 20: justice system and re turn into society, or individuals that
[1:21:22] Speaker 20: were receiving snap benefits and tanned benefits. Those tax credits
[1:21:28] Speaker 20: really allowed employers to hire individuals that are not necessarily
[1:21:34] Speaker 20: getting the same access to jobs. So we see these
[1:21:36] Speaker 20: programs are being took away and are not being renewed.
[1:21:40] Speaker 20: So how can you think unemployment rate for those individuals
[1:21:43] Speaker 20: that are already struggling to get employment would increase.
[1:21:46] Speaker 17: It's no way that it could.
[1:21:48] Speaker 20: You know, we're not having the protections to provide interpreters
[1:21:51] Speaker 20: for deaf individuals anymore. When I need an accommodation for work,
[1:21:54] Speaker 20: we're not getting those things. So we're watching all of
[1:21:57] Speaker 20: these black women be laid off, all of these individuals
[1:22:00] Speaker 20: with disabilities not being able to get the accommodations that
[1:22:02] Speaker 20: they need in the workplace, and our labor market research
[1:22:06] Speaker 20: is not all of the activities and the programs that
[1:22:10] Speaker 20: were there to assist individuals that already had our marginalized
[1:22:14] Speaker 20: and employment are being.
[1:22:16] Speaker 19: Diminished or took away completely.
[1:22:18] Speaker 20: So when you think about unemployment and how a person
[1:22:21] Speaker 20: can say that, I don't know where these numbers come from.
[1:22:24] Speaker 19: Of course you don't know where these numbers come from.
[1:22:26] Speaker 19: You don't even know. We have seven wonders in the world, you.
[1:22:28] Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
[1:22:29] Speaker 20: So how can I expect you to understand what the
[1:22:31] Speaker 20: data is and how the data is impacting the everyday
[1:22:33] Speaker 20: black person. You're not You don't care about that person.
[1:22:36] Speaker 20: You're just talking out your neck and it doesn't even matter.
[1:22:40] Speaker 2: They he is a liar. The White House spokeswomen are lying, Teresa.
[1:22:46] Speaker 2: But again, this is what they do. They're experts at lying.
[1:22:50] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:22:51] Speaker 15: The one thing I saw during this two hundred and
[1:22:53] Speaker 15: fiftyeth celebration of America's birth was Trump on his main
[1:22:58] Speaker 15: stage at the State Fair, and I was really interested
[1:23:01] Speaker 15: in what a speech had to say, and I felt
[1:23:02] Speaker 15: like he was trying. And whoever the you know, spokesperson
[1:23:06] Speaker 15: the writers are for his administration, they did a really
[1:23:09] Speaker 15: good job, a high level job of trying to exaggerate
[1:23:13] Speaker 15: what was actually done. There was no substance, There was
[1:23:16] Speaker 15: no real fact based truth. There was It was like
[1:23:20] Speaker 15: the best fluff I've ever seen, circle with like a
[1:23:24] Speaker 15: whole background of music to help amplify it. So I
[1:23:27] Speaker 15: think what we're seeing again from this administration is, yes,
[1:23:30] Speaker 15: it is an exaggerated fascination of excellence in what they
[1:23:37] Speaker 15: see is getting done. But what we see is just
[1:23:40] Speaker 15: a lot of talk and high level ideas, but not
[1:23:43] Speaker 15: actually stuff that's getting done. And that's what also makes
[1:23:47] Speaker 15: a really big difference in somebody who has never been
[1:23:50] Speaker 15: in this space or field running and understanding what the
[1:23:54] Speaker 15: public's needs are and being in public service, but somebody
[1:23:57] Speaker 15: who's just only focus on being in business and trying
[1:24:02] Speaker 15: to get gains versus losses.
[1:24:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, they just straight. I mean, he'll just sit there
[1:24:07] Speaker 2: and just lie. He'll just lie and lie and lie
[1:24:11] Speaker 2: like he was. Of course he's overseas and he bathed
[1:24:15] Speaker 2: this commedy. We've had probably the best year ever had
[1:24:18] Speaker 2: by then American president. We've had the greatest economy we've
[1:24:20] Speaker 2: ever had. We have nineteen point two trillion being invested
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: in the United States. It's a world record, y'all. He's
[1:24:26] Speaker 2: a liar, Okay. I just want everybody to understand something.
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: The United States economy is thirty trillion dollars.
[1:24:35] Speaker 3: The number two.
[1:24:38] Speaker 2: Economy in the world is China at nineteen trillion. This
[1:24:43] Speaker 2: idiot wants you to believe that more money is being
[1:24:47] Speaker 2: invested in the United States than the second largest economy
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: in the world. He's absolutely full of shit. Not only that,
[1:25:01] Speaker 2: so that we played that clip about about af American
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: employ unemployment. So I'm gonna play it, but I want
[1:25:09] Speaker 2: to play it in full because he's always trashing Biden.
[1:25:12] Speaker 3: So let's just let's just play it again.
[1:25:16] Speaker 27: This is something that's amazing. African American unemployment is now
[1:25:21] Speaker 27: doing better than it's ever done. And I don't know
[1:25:26] Speaker 27: where that sat came from, but I'll take it. I
[1:25:28] Speaker 27: don't know where the hell that's sat Kemp, but we'll
[1:25:31] Speaker 27: take it. And a short time ago, we were a
[1:25:33] Speaker 27: dead country. We're dead as a doornail. If you look
[1:25:36] Speaker 27: go back two years, we were laughing sock all over
[1:25:40] Speaker 27: the world. We had a president that couldn't walk up
[1:25:42] Speaker 27: a flight of stairs. You couldn't walk down a flight
[1:25:45] Speaker 27: of stairs, you know, and we had everybody.
[1:25:48] Speaker 3: We were laughing sock all over the world.
[1:25:51] Speaker 27: And I was with the King of Saudi Arabia because
[1:25:53] Speaker 27: I wanted him to invest trillions of dollars.
[1:25:55] Speaker 3: Into our country. Look at that whole situation now too.
[1:25:59] Speaker 8: It's very interesting.
[1:26:00] Speaker 27: But he was good and he said to me, you know,
[1:26:03] Speaker 27: President's amazing. A year ago year and a.
[1:26:06] Speaker 14: Half ago, we thought you were a dead.
[1:26:07] Speaker 27: Country, and now you're the hottest country anywhere in the
[1:26:11] Speaker 27: world that we are with the strongest, were the hottest
[1:26:14] Speaker 27: and with the most respected country anywhere in the world.
[1:26:18] Speaker 2: First of all, y'all know dann Well to Sardi Sardi
[1:26:20] Speaker 2: Keing didn't say that straight lie. And he always was
[1:26:24] Speaker 2: trashing Biden talking about, oh how he was sleepy Joan
[1:26:30] Speaker 2: falling asleep and couldn't walk up a flight of stairs.
[1:26:34] Speaker 3: You mean this sleepy Joe right here? You mean this
[1:26:37] Speaker 3: one right here? Oh, I'm sorry. This was the snoozer
[1:26:40] Speaker 3: in chief, y'all at the July fourth parade. Yeah, this
[1:26:45] Speaker 3: was him. Oh gets better.
[1:26:48] Speaker 2: Here they were with the world leaders in Turkey today
[1:26:53] Speaker 2: and this is the video of Donald Trump falling asleep
[1:26:58] Speaker 2: at the news conference.
[1:26:59] Speaker 3: Roll it oah, this.
[1:27:05] Speaker 22: Bish Judah, Yeah, Susan all the Saint Suja looks jur
[1:27:23] Speaker 22: If India, Candid Well jet Aldo Susan. Then unity all
[1:27:35] Speaker 22: ship tasted us Yuru.
[1:27:43] Speaker 8: Sat As, I want.
[1:27:45] Speaker 17: Susan each other.
[1:27:51] Speaker 3: Now. And I'm sure some of y'all mass say, oh,
[1:27:54] Speaker 3: he was listening to the interpreter.
[1:27:56] Speaker 2: Now here's a zoom. Then look at Donald Trump as
[1:28:00] Speaker 2: he was talking. Uh look at him, eyes closed.
[1:28:05] Speaker 1: Uh.
[1:28:06] Speaker 3: We all, y'all, we all know that look. We all
[1:28:10] Speaker 3: know we all have used that look in in church.
[1:28:14] Speaker 27: Uh.
[1:28:14] Speaker 3: We we've had that same look sitting in class. That
[1:28:20] Speaker 3: one eye opened him. They're still looking, they're still looking
[1:28:23] Speaker 3: like we know his ass falling asleep. All right, now,
[1:28:26] Speaker 3: check this out. He was always criticized in Biden his
[1:28:30] Speaker 3: video of his ass just roaming around not knowing where
[1:28:34] Speaker 3: the hell he was going.
[1:28:36] Speaker 29: Told Iranian leaders, whoever they are, I'm staying out of
[1:28:39] Speaker 29: this right and then and then you they've got they
[1:28:42] Speaker 29: rocketed Turkey a couple of times. So now they said,
[1:28:46] Speaker 29: and they've said some negative things about he needed him the.
[1:28:49] Speaker 3: Guide him was like, hey, hey, hey, you're wandering. You're wandering.
[1:28:52] Speaker 3: Uh so, I mean, Teresa, this is the snoozer in chief.
[1:28:59] Speaker 3: I was like, because I'm just like, I think.
[1:29:01] Speaker 15: I probably did that like one of my college course
[1:29:05] Speaker 15: classes where it's just like, you know, I mean, I
[1:29:08] Speaker 15: woke up with the test.
[1:29:09] Speaker 19: But yeah, you know, it's very interesting.
[1:29:12] Speaker 15: You know, Trump thinks whatever energy drink he's on, that
[1:29:15] Speaker 15: it doesn't happen. I also find it interesting that that
[1:29:19] Speaker 15: clip is from their local media outlet, and we did
[1:29:22] Speaker 15: not see that on Fox News or any other major
[1:29:25] Speaker 15: station because I'm sure Trump, you know, was probably going
[1:29:29] Speaker 15: to threaten to remove their FBC license like he is
[1:29:32] Speaker 15: doing everybody else.
[1:29:34] Speaker 3: So, yes, Donald Trump is sleeping.
[1:29:37] Speaker 15: He is not listening to an interpreter, because we've seen
[1:29:39] Speaker 15: him listen to interpreters on many occasions, uh and in
[1:29:43] Speaker 15: many rooms. So he just needs to admit you are sleeping,
[1:29:47] Speaker 15: you know, during an international meeting, which is truly important,
[1:29:51] Speaker 15: especially as you talk about all these wins and games.
[1:29:53] Speaker 8: But again, this is uh, this is our president.
[1:29:57] Speaker 2: So yeah, last month, when these seven leaders were meeting
[1:30:02] Speaker 2: Mustafa Yep, the dodoring, wandering Trump did again. I mean
[1:30:07] Speaker 2: here you see they were taking the picture that all
[1:30:09] Speaker 2: of a sudden, He's like, Okay, I need to go
[1:30:12] Speaker 2: take a nap so i'll see y'all later. They were
[1:30:15] Speaker 2: like no, no, no, no, bring your old lass back.
[1:30:17] Speaker 2: We got more pictures to take, and he's like, oh damn,
[1:30:20] Speaker 2: I can't y'all stop me from taking a nap.
[1:30:28] Speaker 28: I mean, it's funny, but there is a serious aspect
[1:30:31] Speaker 28: of this, right. I used to have this older gentleman
[1:30:34] Speaker 28: when I was growing up in my community. His name
[1:30:37] Speaker 28: was mister Wyman. Mister Wayman would fall asleep while he
[1:30:41] Speaker 28: was walking.
[1:30:42] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:30:42] Speaker 28: We just used to have to, you know, keep our
[1:30:44] Speaker 28: hands close to him and take care of him, you know,
[1:30:47] Speaker 28: whether he was in church or whether he was just
[1:30:49] Speaker 28: walking down the road.
[1:30:51] Speaker 3: You know.
[1:30:51] Speaker 18: The seriousness of this is that it's very disrespectful on
[1:30:54] Speaker 18: the international level when you have these top level discussions
[1:30:58] Speaker 18: and conversations for you not to be on top of
[1:31:01] Speaker 18: your game.
[1:31:01] Speaker 8: Now, Yes, he is a man of you know, over
[1:31:04] Speaker 8: eighty years old now, and yes, you know who knows.
[1:31:08] Speaker 8: Maybe it's because he's up late night tweeting.
[1:31:10] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:31:10] Speaker 18: If that's the case, you need to stop. Maybe he
[1:31:13] Speaker 18: has an arcolepsy, and an arcolepsy, you know, you fall asleep, so.
[1:31:17] Speaker 8: He needs to address that.
[1:31:18] Speaker 18: If that's the case, or maybe and I'm saying maybe,
[1:31:21] Speaker 18: I'm not saying this is true, but when you have
[1:31:23] Speaker 18: early on set dementia or Alzheimer's, it also has some
[1:31:28] Speaker 18: significant impacts where you can just fall asleep in the daytime.
[1:31:31] Speaker 18: Of course, it could be disrupted at night. So there
[1:31:33] Speaker 18: are a number of things. So I call him sleepy
[1:31:36] Speaker 18: d because you know, he just continues.
[1:31:39] Speaker 8: To fall asleep, and he may just be bored. He
[1:31:41] Speaker 8: may not feel that these.
[1:31:42] Speaker 18: Things require his attention, so he's not properly preparing his body,
[1:31:48] Speaker 18: or maybe his body will no longer allow him to
[1:31:50] Speaker 18: properly prepare.
[1:31:52] Speaker 2: Well, we know Dog on wheel, he's been propped up.
[1:31:56] Speaker 2: That's what's going on. And so again always trying to
[1:32:01] Speaker 2: sit here and you know, and criticize body every turn.
[1:32:06] Speaker 2: When he said, he's just all over the place. Oh,
[1:32:11] Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm going, I don't know what
[1:32:12] Speaker 2: I'm doing. But we know he is a flat out
[1:32:18] Speaker 2: awful liar. We know he loves to make things up.
[1:32:23] Speaker 2: And again, what he's constantly doing is just wandering and
[1:32:28] Speaker 2: then just also just saying absolutely insane, insane, crazy things,
[1:32:34] Speaker 2: and that's exactly who he is and what he is
[1:32:39] Speaker 2: good at, and just making stuff up. I mean, matter
[1:32:43] Speaker 2: of fact, here he was in a restaurant making up
[1:32:46] Speaker 2: again the money being invested and they can't quantify this
[1:32:50] Speaker 2: money being invested.
[1:32:51] Speaker 3: So remember he said, nineteen trull you listen to this one.
[1:32:57] Speaker 2: The country is doing well, and I keep telling you,
[1:33:10] Speaker 2: Maga so dumb. They just believe anything. Oh, yeah, eighteen. True,
[1:33:15] Speaker 2: you're being invested. Yet these same folks in Wisconsin are
[1:33:18] Speaker 2: the ones who are filing for bankruptcy because they're losing
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: their family farms. But he keeps just lying about the investment.
[1:33:28] Speaker 2: All right, y'all, Uh, let's go to a break. We
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[1:35:28] Speaker 2: National Guard soldiers family shot a twenty ye old black
[1:35:31] Speaker 2: man who legedly had a gun in downtown Memphis. According
[1:35:34] Speaker 2: to police, Tyron Johnson turned his gun towards the Tennessee
[1:35:37] Speaker 2: National Guard members during the pursuit on Sunday morning. The
[1:35:39] Speaker 2: soldiers were responding alongside local police to reports of gun
[1:35:42] Speaker 2: shots around four am. When they began pursuing an armed
[1:35:45] Speaker 2: man who was fleeing on foot. Memphis police said the
[1:35:47] Speaker 2: Guard has been opened fire after Johnson aimed his weapon
[1:35:50] Speaker 2: at them. Johnson dot at the scene despite attempts at
[1:35:53] Speaker 2: first aid by two National Guard medical specialists.
[1:35:56] Speaker 3: The National Guard.
[1:35:57] Speaker 2: Members are part of a federal task force in Memphis
[1:35:59] Speaker 2: created by the Trump administration would have sent troops in
[1:36:02] Speaker 2: federal agents to democratic runing cities last year.
[1:36:05] Speaker 3: Trump has characterized these.
[1:36:06] Speaker 2: Cities as being overrun with crime infits Mayor Paul Jung,
[1:36:09] Speaker 2: a Democrat, pointed out that crime rates in the city
[1:36:11] Speaker 2: were already declining when Governor Bill Lead deployed a National
[1:36:14] Speaker 2: Guard to Memphis. NAACP at a launching a twenty million
[1:36:17] Speaker 2: dollars get out the Vote campaign and head the twenty
[1:36:19] Speaker 2: twenty six mid term elections as part of the Nation
[1:36:21] Speaker 2: of two and fifty anniversary celebration. In a partnership with GSSAA,
[1:36:25] Speaker 2: Colorada based data and election strategy group. The NAACP says
[1:36:29] Speaker 2: it plans to recruit twenty thousand volunteers and mobilize six
[1:36:32] Speaker 2: point five million Black voters across fourteen stations, thirty three
[1:36:35] Speaker 2: congressional districts. The objective is to reach six point five
[1:36:38] Speaker 2: million black voters through radio ads and other spots. According
[1:36:42] Speaker 2: to the Pe Research Center, black voters accounting for twelve
[1:36:44] Speaker 2: point one percent of one hundred and thirty one million
[1:36:47] Speaker 2: voters into the two thousand and eight presidential election. About
[1:36:50] Speaker 2: two and three eldrib black Americans voted in twenty twelve
[1:36:52] Speaker 2: president election, per the Census Bureau. The NAACP's voter engagement
[1:36:56] Speaker 2: effort will target infrequent voters in hopes of significantly increasing
[1:37:00] Speaker 2: turnout compared to those years. All right, if you want
[1:37:04] Speaker 2: to see a grossly out of touch rich white man,
[1:37:08] Speaker 2: there's no better example than the individual who had to
[1:37:14] Speaker 2: relieve Fox News because he kept messing with women.
[1:37:18] Speaker 3: And sexual harassing them.
[1:37:19] Speaker 2: So Bill A Rally, this idiot is actually slamming Americans
[1:37:24] Speaker 2: who are struggling with inflation, saying what's wrong with y'all?
[1:37:28] Speaker 3: Get your act together? On his No Spend News podcast,
[1:37:32] Speaker 3: Bill A.
[1:37:33] Speaker 2: Rowdy said, these people need to stop complaining and just
[1:37:37] Speaker 2: shut up and get into the stock market.
[1:37:43] Speaker 21: Well thought record high in the stock market. You may
[1:37:47] Speaker 21: know that oil prices coming down that was easily predictable,
[1:37:51] Speaker 21: and they'll continue to drop. We hope they go below
[1:37:54] Speaker 21: seventy dollars a barrel. Now, the American oil companies will
[1:37:58] Speaker 21: take their sweet time because they want to make as
[1:38:01] Speaker 21: much money as possible from us dropping at the pump.
[1:38:06] Speaker 3: But it'll happen.
[1:38:08] Speaker 21: But the most important thing is that about forty of
[1:38:17] Speaker 21: Americans have no stocks, no mutual funds, no iras, nothing. Okay,
[1:38:24] Speaker 21: fifty eight percent, according.
[1:38:26] Speaker 3: To Gallup, have stocks. This is how you grow your
[1:38:30] Speaker 3: money in a capitalist society.
[1:38:33] Speaker 21: Now, if you don't have any stocks, what de deuce
[1:38:37] Speaker 21: do you think is going to happen to you when
[1:38:39] Speaker 21: you get older? What do you think that the government
[1:38:44] Speaker 21: is going to provide a comfortable living for you? Is
[1:38:47] Speaker 21: that what you think you'll get Social Security?
[1:38:52] Speaker 3: But that ekes by you want to live in a trailer.
[1:38:56] Speaker 21: The stock market is the way to our mass capital.
[1:39:02] Speaker 3: And I'm not a speculator.
[1:39:04] Speaker 21: I just said, tell my guys, I have a financial advisor,
[1:39:08] Speaker 21: and you know you have to have one. By the
[1:39:11] Speaker 21: S and P the standard ports. That means that by
[1:39:15] Speaker 21: and just hold it. My portfolio is doing great because
[1:39:21] Speaker 21: Trump is his policies appealed to the big companies, but
[1:39:30] Speaker 21: Americans don't participate in capitalism, and a lot of them
[1:39:34] Speaker 21: are yowling about high prices. Come on, you get four
[1:39:39] Speaker 21: percent inflation here, live in the real world. So you
[1:39:46] Speaker 21: younger people, you got to get into the stock market.
[1:39:50] Speaker 21: Don't take big risks. Go with the conservative stuff.
[1:39:56] Speaker 3: What a pompous asshole. Go to my iPad. This is
[1:40:02] Speaker 3: from Forbes.
[1:40:03] Speaker 2: This is an article dating November seventh, twenty seventeen. Even
[1:40:08] Speaker 2: with the thirty two million dollar settlement bill, O'Reilly made
[1:40:14] Speaker 2: millions last year. And when you go into the article,
[1:40:19] Speaker 2: it says right here, okay, they did a twenty million
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: dollar payout to Gretchen Carlson, and it says, discounting the settlement,
[1:40:30] Speaker 2: O'Reilly would have earned five million dollars last year. In fact,
[1:40:35] Speaker 2: the former television host, who now has subscription based podcast
[1:40:39] Speaker 2: No Spend News in an online video series, earned thirty
[1:40:42] Speaker 2: seven million dollars in the twelve months leading up to
[1:40:45] Speaker 2: June first, twenty seventeen, landing him a spot on Forbes's
[1:40:49] Speaker 2: annual list of top earning television hosts and his biggest
[1:40:53] Speaker 2: annual haul since Forbes started keeping track. He made money
[1:40:59] Speaker 2: from Fox New News, He made money from selling his books,
[1:41:04] Speaker 2: speaking gigs, a National geographic adaption of one of his books.
[1:41:08] Speaker 3: All of that.
[1:41:11] Speaker 24: So you got to be pretty arrogant, ain't blood Jemaia
[1:41:17] Speaker 24: in histot market? What extra money? Housing costs have exploded. See,
[1:41:26] Speaker 24: when you are worth more than one hundred million dollars,
[1:41:29] Speaker 24: you don't really care about housing costs.
[1:41:32] Speaker 3: You don't care about gas prices, you don't care.
[1:41:36] Speaker 2: About groceries increasing all right, you don't care about daycare,
[1:41:44] Speaker 2: you don't care about the cost of living because you're
[1:41:48] Speaker 2: living on a whole different level.
[1:41:51] Speaker 3: Than nearly all Americans.
[1:41:54] Speaker 2: This is what happens when you have these rich, pompous
[1:41:59] Speaker 2: idiots who say these things.
[1:42:01] Speaker 3: And see.
[1:42:01] Speaker 2: One of the criticisms that I have of cable news
[1:42:05] Speaker 2: and broadcast news is that the individuals that you're often
[1:42:08] Speaker 2: seeing sitting in those anchorchairs are making millions of dollars
[1:42:12] Speaker 2: living in New York City or Washington, DC. Their children
[1:42:16] Speaker 2: don't go to public schools. They go to private school
[1:42:19] Speaker 2: they go to boarding schools. Their kids aren't riding the
[1:42:23] Speaker 2: school bus, They're being taken to school via car service.
[1:42:28] Speaker 2: And so he dares to say this, Oh, the way
[1:42:31] Speaker 2: you the way you get wealth of this country is in.
[1:42:34] Speaker 3: A stock market. Hey, how about actually pensions? What about that? Bill?
[1:42:39] Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, companies got rid of that in favor
[1:42:43] Speaker 2: of four to one k's because it was wait for
[1:42:46] Speaker 2: them to make more money. How about increasing wages, it's
[1:42:50] Speaker 2: a good idea.
[1:42:51] Speaker 3: What about that again?
[1:42:55] Speaker 2: This is the arrogance of white conservatives. Oh, it's been
[1:43:01] Speaker 2: amazing under Trump. It's been just unbelievable. Yeah, for the rich.
[1:43:10] Speaker 2: Trump's big beautiful bill. It was for people like Bill O'Reilly. Oh,
[1:43:15] Speaker 2: he's ecstatic. Remember the last time Trump was there, they
[1:43:21] Speaker 2: allowed of folks to be able to write off planes
[1:43:23] Speaker 2: and boats and all sort of stuff, because that's who
[1:43:27] Speaker 2: Trump cares about. He cares about the super rich in America.
[1:43:34] Speaker 2: This is just unbelievably arrogant.
[1:43:37] Speaker 3: Zabora.
[1:43:41] Speaker 20: Definitely, they're not worried about the little person and the
[1:43:45] Speaker 20: person that everyday people and what are every day people needs.
[1:43:48] Speaker 20: Their concern is how do we get to the top,
[1:43:52] Speaker 20: because they're already there, right, how do we stay at
[1:43:54] Speaker 20: the top?
[1:43:54] Speaker 19: And they don't care about how that affects anyone beneath them.
[1:43:58] Speaker 20: So when I'm thinking that here, what Bill O'Reilly says,
[1:44:02] Speaker 20: or I'm listening to Trump say things, that is just
[1:44:05] Speaker 20: very dismissive of the individual that has to work to
[1:44:10] Speaker 20: stay in the position therein and then they're being dismissed
[1:44:13] Speaker 20: from jobs, like all of those black women from the
[1:44:16] Speaker 20: government that did absolutely nothing but go to work, show up,
[1:44:21] Speaker 20: do a good job, do all of the things that
[1:44:24] Speaker 20: they were supposed to work for years, and then you
[1:44:26] Speaker 20: just let me go with no real reason so that
[1:44:30] Speaker 20: you can say, we don't have the budget to fund
[1:44:33] Speaker 20: all of these services that meet the needs of our
[1:44:36] Speaker 20: communities and the people that we really love and are
[1:44:40] Speaker 20: around and are making the world really work that were
[1:44:44] Speaker 20: so called what did they call them during COVID the
[1:44:48] Speaker 20: people that you know, we need those people, We need
[1:44:50] Speaker 20: the Walmart worker, we need the person that's online. But
[1:44:53] Speaker 20: when you're cutting programs that impact those individuals, how can
[1:44:57] Speaker 20: you say that those are the people that we really need,
[1:45:01] Speaker 20: but your programs don't inflict it. So you cut funding
[1:45:04] Speaker 20: in one era that is focused on those programs, and
[1:45:08] Speaker 20: you increase your billion dollar bottom line.
[1:45:12] Speaker 19: All of the tech bros. Bottom line has increased.
[1:45:16] Speaker 20: Trump, for as poor of a money manager as he
[1:45:20] Speaker 20: is when it comes to our country, his bottom line
[1:45:23] Speaker 20: and his family's bottom line.
[1:45:25] Speaker 19: Continues to increase.
[1:45:26] Speaker 20: He study increases on how many billions of dollar him
[1:45:29] Speaker 20: and Elon Musk and becoming trillionaires, and how those things
[1:45:33] Speaker 20: are helping their lives, But they're cutting the funding that
[1:45:36] Speaker 20: helps everyday Americans.
[1:45:38] Speaker 19: And the people that are his supporters are.
[1:45:41] Speaker 20: The people that are getting impacted more than they even
[1:45:44] Speaker 20: can imagine. But they're blindly supporting racism versus really paying
[1:45:49] Speaker 20: attention to what they need and how their households are
[1:45:53] Speaker 20: being affected from a president that they are die hard lovers.
[1:45:59] Speaker 19: And they're looking like, what are the communists doing or
[1:46:02] Speaker 19: the socialists doing? When who are they?
[1:46:05] Speaker 20: You can't identify them, there's no there's no accountability for
[1:46:10] Speaker 20: our president. Are the agencies that he has allowed to
[1:46:15] Speaker 20: just control our lives?
[1:46:17] Speaker 2: School made twenty five million dollars a year at Fox News,
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: and he's telling people suck it up.
[1:46:29] Speaker 19: How do you even get the rights to say that?
[1:46:30] Speaker 17: You don't even know what it's like?
[1:46:34] Speaker 3: Is Teresa there? Yes, I'm here, there you go.
[1:46:37] Speaker 2: I was to ask you a question, I said here
[1:46:40] Speaker 2: he is. He made twenty five million dollars a year.
[1:46:43] Speaker 2: He's having nerder to tell people to suck it up.
[1:46:46] Speaker 2: If it's in the stock market.
[1:46:48] Speaker 26: You know, I'm not surprised.
[1:46:49] Speaker 15: You know, I actually had a similar situation happen in
[1:46:52] Speaker 15: my condo association where you know, there are a special
[1:46:56] Speaker 15: assessments happening, and I had a white gentleman who's sitting
[1:47:02] Speaker 15: on the board literally say hey, you know, everybody owes
[1:47:08] Speaker 15: more money, and so what I need you guys to
[1:47:11] Speaker 15: do is probably go get a lot of credit or
[1:47:13] Speaker 15: a new credit card to pay it. And I and
[1:47:15] Speaker 15: I literally had to take a step back, and I said, wow,
[1:47:18] Speaker 15: the audacity of these individuals. And I said, you know what,
[1:47:21] Speaker 15: but the stems from the top, and the top comes
[1:47:24] Speaker 15: for our president of the United States, and and also
[1:47:27] Speaker 15: stems down to Bill o'relly who is saying twenty five
[1:47:30] Speaker 15: million dollars is what he's getting. But it's telling people
[1:47:34] Speaker 15: who don't have these means to.
[1:47:38] Speaker 19: To to provide in other ways, which we just don't
[1:47:40] Speaker 19: have the resources to do.
[1:47:42] Speaker 2: Now, if they.
[1:47:42] Speaker 15: Decided to cut their salary and decrease in the type
[1:47:46] Speaker 15: of in their commentary and start, you know, actually producing
[1:47:50] Speaker 15: some results for those families who don't have I guess,
[1:47:54] Speaker 15: you know, we could figure out a mechanism to figure
[1:47:57] Speaker 15: out how to get out of these situations. But it's
[1:48:00] Speaker 15: always interesting. Those who make the seven eight figure salaries
[1:48:05] Speaker 15: are always trying to tell folks who you know only
[1:48:09] Speaker 15: honestly just has the means to probably watch what they're
[1:48:12] Speaker 15: saying and to take that type of abuse, just even
[1:48:15] Speaker 15: from a distance, to tell them something different than what
[1:48:18] Speaker 15: they're living.
[1:48:19] Speaker 3: It's always just hard to hear, just just beyondpathetic most
[1:48:24] Speaker 3: of them, it is.
[1:48:26] Speaker 18: But it is the paradigm of the haves and the
[1:48:29] Speaker 18: have nots, and the individuals that you know have the
[1:48:32] Speaker 18: wealth figure that you must be doing something incorrectly if
[1:48:36] Speaker 18: you don't have the wealth. You know, it's disingenuous to
[1:48:38] Speaker 18: tell folks that they should just be investing in the
[1:48:41] Speaker 18: stock market if we're not going to make sure that
[1:48:43] Speaker 18: people have the knowledge and the skills, if we don't
[1:48:47] Speaker 18: have a living wage so that folks actually have a
[1:48:49] Speaker 18: few extra dollars, because most of the time people are
[1:48:52] Speaker 18: trying to utilize those extra dollars that.
[1:48:55] Speaker 8: They might have and just survival.
[1:48:57] Speaker 18: You know, if you don't have a certain price point,
[1:49:00] Speaker 18: if you don't actually make enough money, you actually don't
[1:49:04] Speaker 18: get a chance to invest in the stock market the
[1:49:06] Speaker 18: same way that wealthy people do because they get to
[1:49:09] Speaker 18: come in early, they get to you know, buy up
[1:49:12] Speaker 18: the things that they think are going to go up,
[1:49:14] Speaker 18: and then later on other individuals then get an opportunity
[1:49:18] Speaker 18: to invest. So there is a lot of disparities that
[1:49:21] Speaker 18: exist inside of the stock market.
[1:49:23] Speaker 8: So for him to say that, you.
[1:49:25] Speaker 18: Know, just continues to show, you know, that they are
[1:49:27] Speaker 18: very you know, just not connected to what everyday people
[1:49:31] Speaker 18: are actually dealing with.
[1:49:33] Speaker 8: But it's not unusual. But unfortunately, as I close, the
[1:49:38] Speaker 8: reason that.
[1:49:38] Speaker 18: These individuals can make these statements and the reasons that
[1:49:41] Speaker 18: the policies that are out there that benefit the rich
[1:49:44] Speaker 18: and not the working class is because we often you know,
[1:49:49] Speaker 18: elect these individuals who have no connection to us, who
[1:49:53] Speaker 18: have never understood what it is to have to go
[1:49:54] Speaker 18: to the laundromat or to have to make some decisions
[1:49:58] Speaker 18: at the grocery store about what you can and what
[1:50:01] Speaker 18: you can't get. So once again, our vote is incredibly
[1:50:04] Speaker 18: powerful and we can change this dynamic. And that does
[1:50:07] Speaker 18: not mean that folks can't you know, continue to make
[1:50:09] Speaker 18: money and do you know, hopefully positive things with that,
[1:50:13] Speaker 18: but we've got to make sure that we're balancing out
[1:50:14] Speaker 18: this system, which is incredibly unfair and that statement aligns
[1:50:19] Speaker 18: with that unfairness.
[1:50:20] Speaker 3: Yep, it gives a lot of Marie answernet.
[1:50:23] Speaker 2: Let them eat cake. All right, folks, quick break, we
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[1:52:31] Speaker 2: And Atlanta based company is the first ever Black onwed
[1:52:33] Speaker 2: golf equipment company to have its premium line of golf
[1:52:36] Speaker 2: balls achieved conformance to the rules of Golf established by
[1:52:39] Speaker 2: the United States Golf Association. The Renegade Blueprint is a
[1:52:42] Speaker 2: two piece you're saying golf ball that offers a premium
[1:52:45] Speaker 2: performance at a lower price. In many of his competitors,
[1:52:47] Speaker 2: the balls designed for all golfers. Joining us down from
[1:52:51] Speaker 2: Atlanta is Kenneth Duncan, the CEO of Renegade Golf Company
[1:52:54] Speaker 2: and team Renegade golfer Taylor Millard, their first black female
[1:52:57] Speaker 2: golfers be featured on the packaging of an an actually
[1:53:00] Speaker 2: marketed golf ball box.
[1:53:01] Speaker 3: Glad to have both of y'all here. Uh So, uh
[1:53:06] Speaker 3: first and foremost, let's talk about this ball, Kenneth. So
[1:53:11] Speaker 3: what makes this one here different? Y'all? Y'all? We previously
[1:53:16] Speaker 3: y'all sit me, previously your other golf balls. Uh uh
[1:53:22] Speaker 3: and actually I play.
[1:53:24] Speaker 2: So the Renegade MBU uh And so the Renegade Blueprint
[1:53:28] Speaker 2: is the new one.
[1:53:30] Speaker 3: Yep.
[1:53:30] Speaker 6: So the Blueprint is kind of a continuation of just
[1:53:32] Speaker 6: what we started a few years ago. MBO means first
[1:53:35] Speaker 6: of the line Nigeria word meaning first of its kind.
[1:53:39] Speaker 6: I mean, that's the first ever black owned golf ball company.
[1:53:41] Speaker 6: That was kind of the start of us building out
[1:53:43] Speaker 6: a line. But as you know, the no golf company
[1:53:45] Speaker 6: can exist with just you know, one premium golf ball.
[1:53:48] Speaker 14: Right.
[1:53:49] Speaker 6: So now we're on our fifth golf ball re released
[1:53:52] Speaker 6: and this film's probably the most exciting because it has
[1:53:55] Speaker 6: a lot of.
[1:53:56] Speaker 8: Meaning behind it.
[1:53:57] Speaker 6: So even just being here with you today and having
[1:54:00] Speaker 6: Taylor Miller to join us is exciting because the blueprint
[1:54:03] Speaker 6: is kind of a more of a message than it
[1:54:05] Speaker 6: is a product system we put into the market.
[1:54:08] Speaker 2: Now, you previously had like like if you go to
[1:54:13] Speaker 2: shop black studded wer dot com, if folks actually go
[1:54:17] Speaker 2: there and look at that, you'll see on that box
[1:54:21] Speaker 2: was Maurice Allen, the three time long driving World champion.
[1:54:25] Speaker 3: And so how did how did you then decide that?
[1:54:32] Speaker 3: How did you just have on Taylor?
[1:54:34] Speaker 6: You know, we had some conversations in the last couple
[1:54:36] Speaker 6: of years and we've we've kind of had a blind spot.
[1:54:38] Speaker 6: You know, people have talked to us, and our goal
[1:54:40] Speaker 6: is always to make more golf, more affordable, more accessible,
[1:54:44] Speaker 6: more inclusive and diverse. I met with a young lady
[1:54:46] Speaker 6: about a year ago and she said, you know, I
[1:54:48] Speaker 6: see a lot of men in your products, and black men,
[1:54:51] Speaker 6: and I see a lot of juniors.
[1:54:53] Speaker 8: But if you're a golf ball company for women, we're
[1:54:55] Speaker 8: the women.
[1:54:56] Speaker 6: And you know, we've always, you know, worked with amazing juniors, Taylor,
[1:55:00] Speaker 6: and we've always tried to represent the future of golf,
[1:55:03] Speaker 6: but we've never done a really great job of actually
[1:55:05] Speaker 6: displaying that. And Taylor Miller, you know, unfortunate to have
[1:55:09] Speaker 6: her play our golf ball the ball you referenced at
[1:55:12] Speaker 6: mboo for the last few years, and we saw as
[1:55:14] Speaker 6: an opportunity to really display all the amazing things we
[1:55:17] Speaker 6: have going on in the company and to pivot the
[1:55:19] Speaker 6: blueprint messaging to be something that's more inclusive and even
[1:55:23] Speaker 6: more pushing the limit.
[1:55:25] Speaker 8: Than what we were doing before.
[1:55:26] Speaker 3: So, Taylor, were you surprised when you got to call?
[1:55:30] Speaker 31: Yeah, I was super excited when my parents had told
[1:55:34] Speaker 31: me that Kenny had talked to them and I was
[1:55:37] Speaker 31: going to actually be on the golf ball box. I
[1:55:39] Speaker 31: thought it was super incredible that Kenny was giving me
[1:55:42] Speaker 31: the opportunity and taking a chance on me.
[1:55:46] Speaker 3: And Taylor, you're based where.
[1:55:49] Speaker 32: Right outside of Chicago, Illinois?
[1:55:51] Speaker 3: And what do you play?
[1:55:54] Speaker 32: I play at Plainfield East.
[1:55:55] Speaker 3: I'm going to be a junior in the fall, junior.
[1:56:01] Speaker 32: In high school.
[1:56:01] Speaker 3: Got making sure high school college.
[1:56:06] Speaker 8: I have a question for you, Frett. Have you ever
[1:56:08] Speaker 8: seen a woman on a golf ball box?
[1:56:11] Speaker 3: Ever? I don't recall, and most.
[1:56:15] Speaker 6: Of the golf commercials you're an avid golfer, none of them,
[1:56:17] Speaker 6: you know, they're not focused on women, not focused on
[1:56:21] Speaker 6: high performing players.
[1:56:22] Speaker 8: You know, even in our black space. No, many people
[1:56:25] Speaker 8: can't name.
[1:56:25] Speaker 6: One professional black golfer that's of color, you know, and
[1:56:29] Speaker 6: we have some amazing ones a Mari Avery, who's playing
[1:56:32] Speaker 6: great this year's gonna get an OLPGA Tour card. So
[1:56:35] Speaker 6: I think we have an opportunity with this platform, with
[1:56:37] Speaker 6: our golf ball box, with Taylor, to.
[1:56:40] Speaker 8: Really reset the messaging in golf. You know, like there's
[1:56:43] Speaker 8: a hold of the fastest growing group of.
[1:56:45] Speaker 6: Golfers in the entire world is women, and black women
[1:56:48] Speaker 6: make up a big portion of that, and they're underrepresented
[1:56:51] Speaker 6: because no golf companies are talking to them, but they buy.
[1:56:55] Speaker 6: So why don't we kind of break down those bears?
[1:56:57] Speaker 3: It exists.
[1:56:58] Speaker 2: One of the things that you're seeing, you're seeing uh
[1:57:01] Speaker 2: an increase in the attention UH being.
[1:57:06] Speaker 3: Paid if you will uh to uh to golf.
[1:57:11] Speaker 1: Uh.
[1:57:11] Speaker 3: There are a number of different groups.
[1:57:14] Speaker 2: There are different I know I follow uh several different
[1:57:18] Speaker 2: groups on social media, sisters who are or you know,
[1:57:23] Speaker 2: playing the game, having different clubs and things along those lines,
[1:57:27] Speaker 2: UH introducing the game of golf uh to lots of folks,
[1:57:30] Speaker 2: and so I take it your goal is also to
[1:57:33] Speaker 2: appeal to a lot of those.
[1:57:34] Speaker 6: Folks, absolutely, and and to bridge the gap between men
[1:57:38] Speaker 6: and women. So you know, Taylor is not just a
[1:57:41] Speaker 6: female golfer, she's she's a female. She hits the golf
[1:57:45] Speaker 6: ball probably longer than both of us. You know, her
[1:57:48] Speaker 6: scoring averages year is continue to get lower, scoring averaging
[1:57:51] Speaker 6: in the seventies. You know, there's no such thing as
[1:57:54] Speaker 6: a as a woman's golf ball anymore, women based product.
[1:57:59] Speaker 8: I mean she played so it was horsepower golf ball
[1:58:01] Speaker 8: we have.
[1:58:02] Speaker 6: So I think we have the opportunity to bridge the
[1:58:03] Speaker 6: gap and to change the narrative on what woman golf
[1:58:06] Speaker 6: looks like and to connect all of us in this
[1:58:08] Speaker 6: amazing game.
[1:58:09] Speaker 3: So, Taylor, what is your handicap.
[1:58:13] Speaker 32: Right now? I played to a plus two, played to.
[1:58:16] Speaker 3: A plus two average.
[1:58:17] Speaker 2: Driving distance, I carry the ball to fifty Okay, all
[1:58:22] Speaker 2: right then cool, cool cool.
[1:58:26] Speaker 6: Without the rollout. People don't ever really count the extra yards.
[1:58:30] Speaker 6: We have a couple of her clocking about two eighty
[1:58:31] Speaker 6: five in the sem so, so she can.
[1:58:34] Speaker 8: Put motor out there.
[1:58:35] Speaker 2: Well you absolutely absolutely, and talk about the performance if
[1:58:41] Speaker 2: you will, of the golf ball compared to I mean,
[1:58:44] Speaker 2: look there, the golf ball market, Taylor is hugely competitive,
[1:58:48] Speaker 2: lots of brands out there.
[1:58:52] Speaker 31: Yeah, I'd say I knew that the MBU is a
[1:58:57] Speaker 31: good ball for me as soon as I saw I
[1:58:59] Speaker 31: prefer warming well with my irons. I feel like I'm
[1:59:01] Speaker 31: a really strong iron player into greens, so just game
[1:59:05] Speaker 31: being able to have the spin that I need into
[1:59:08] Speaker 31: greens is good. And then when I was testing the ball,
[1:59:11] Speaker 31: when I was hitting driver, the spin was honestly around
[1:59:14] Speaker 31: that like twenty seven hundred to like three thousand thousand,
[1:59:17] Speaker 31: which getting my perfect two point fifty carry and I
[1:59:21] Speaker 31: was still rolling out to like the two to eighty range.
[1:59:23] Speaker 31: So having all the numbers line up perfectly with the
[1:59:27] Speaker 31: MBU ball has honestly been amazing for me.
[1:59:31] Speaker 2: All Right, cool, cool, cool question from the panel. Let's
[1:59:35] Speaker 2: go to Mostafa first.
[1:59:39] Speaker 18: Well, congratulations to both of you. I love seeing black excellence.
[1:59:43] Speaker 18: You know, my question is sort of similar. By no
[1:59:45] Speaker 18: means that my you know, a golf Officionado titleist callaway
[1:59:51] Speaker 18: been the balls, the times that I've went out that
[1:59:53] Speaker 18: I've used. What makes these balls different than some of
[1:59:57] Speaker 18: those other names that some folks might know of.
[2:00:00] Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean a ball Taylor just referenced it. You know,
[2:00:03] Speaker 6: our performance of our ball is at part, if not
[2:00:06] Speaker 6: better than all of those, and the golf ball is
[2:00:08] Speaker 6: a lot of a personal choice. But really I think
[2:00:10] Speaker 6: the question is what makes our company different. You know,
[2:00:13] Speaker 6: we are giving back, you know, thousands of dollars into
[2:00:16] Speaker 6: minority communities, be it golf scholarships. You know, we represent
[2:00:20] Speaker 6: more than just a golf ball company, but an entire
[2:00:23] Speaker 6: movement in golf to become more diverse as the first
[2:00:26] Speaker 6: ever black on golf ball company. And you know you've
[2:00:28] Speaker 6: seen Eastside do similar things in the space. So we're
[2:00:31] Speaker 6: not just another product. You know, We're not another thing
[2:00:34] Speaker 6: you can go play with. We're really more of a
[2:00:36] Speaker 6: message and a movement that it is looking to change
[2:00:39] Speaker 6: the face of.
[2:00:39] Speaker 8: Golf and change the way that we build our young
[2:00:42] Speaker 8: golfers up from the ground up.
[2:00:46] Speaker 3: The more.
[2:00:49] Speaker 19: I think this is really amazing what you're doing and
[2:00:52] Speaker 19: just bringing in that level of diversity.
[2:00:54] Speaker 20: So my question is how do you what is your
[2:00:57] Speaker 20: strategic plan to you know, just get more young black golfers,
[2:01:01] Speaker 20: especially female golfers, to participate in golfers, to just understand
[2:01:06] Speaker 20: what your company is, the balls you have, and how
[2:01:08] Speaker 20: those opportunities are out there for young golfers.
[2:01:11] Speaker 8: That's a great question, thank you.
[2:01:12] Speaker 6: Now, I think that question really lies in patients and intentionality,
[2:01:17] Speaker 6: and from the patient's part. You know, we've been working
[2:01:20] Speaker 6: with Taylor since before she was fourteen years old. She's
[2:01:23] Speaker 6: been playing our ball and now she's performing on the
[2:01:25] Speaker 6: highest junior golf tour in the country.
[2:01:27] Speaker 8: We have another junior golfer who he started when he.
[2:01:29] Speaker 6: Was eleven playing our ball and now he's one of
[2:01:32] Speaker 6: the highest ranking your golfers in his class, named Camdon Guiden.
[2:01:35] Speaker 6: So there's a level of patients required for us to
[2:01:37] Speaker 6: catch up on the one hundred plus head start of
[2:01:40] Speaker 6: some of our white peers and titleist and Calway that is,
[2:01:43] Speaker 6: and then other parts intentionality, for us to share these stories,
[2:01:46] Speaker 6: for us to be very direct and upfront with our messaging,
[2:01:49] Speaker 6: to be very authentic about who.
[2:01:51] Speaker 8: We want to help grow the game with and what
[2:01:53] Speaker 8: we want to do.
[2:01:54] Speaker 6: With our proceeds and our revenue, and just continue to
[2:01:57] Speaker 6: be very transparent about who we are, are, what want
[2:02:00] Speaker 6: to be, and where we're going.
[2:02:03] Speaker 2: All right, then, and so again, so right now, how
[2:02:07] Speaker 2: many different golf balls do you have out?
[2:02:12] Speaker 8: Well, now we're at three.
[2:02:13] Speaker 6: We can song a little bit because we're really focusing
[2:02:15] Speaker 6: on our premium ball, the MBU, the MBU and the
[2:02:18] Speaker 6: Blueprint as the one is more more aligned for beginners.
[2:02:22] Speaker 8: And we do have a premium ball, the MBU Tray,
[2:02:25] Speaker 8: which we.
[2:02:25] Speaker 6: Sent you last year, which is really more for our
[2:02:27] Speaker 6: high high performing players. But we really just line on
[2:02:30] Speaker 6: those three balls to kind of carry for our message.
[2:02:33] Speaker 2: You said the mbouh, so which one case? So walk
[2:02:38] Speaker 2: us through is the blueprint for the you know, starting
[2:02:42] Speaker 2: golfer or is that that? And then and the the
[2:02:47] Speaker 2: MBU is for what, uh, what would you say for
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: better playing golfers? And then of course what's your top line?
[2:02:55] Speaker 6: So I'd probably say the MBU is for that, you know,
[2:02:57] Speaker 6: single digit handicap and Taylor being plus handed cap. So
[2:03:00] Speaker 6: that's what the entire Mboo line is about. The difference
[2:03:04] Speaker 6: between the MBU and the Mboo Tray is really just
[2:03:06] Speaker 6: a comfort and field thing. Both of those are for
[2:03:09] Speaker 6: a high performing, high level players single digit handicaps, but
[2:03:13] Speaker 6: some people prefer ball with more spend, some prefer less spin.
[2:03:16] Speaker 6: So those two balls are very similar, but they are
[2:03:19] Speaker 6: different than the Blueprint, which is more of our entry level,
[2:03:21] Speaker 6: beginning golf ball for your everyday player gotcha.
[2:03:25] Speaker 2: So I'm a five. My handkeep is five point five.
[2:03:28] Speaker 2: So which ball we're trying to get you to play
[2:03:31] Speaker 2: the mbu?
[2:03:31] Speaker 6: We're trying to We're trying to get you on it
[2:03:32] Speaker 6: in a couple of years now, we're gonna get you
[2:03:34] Speaker 6: hooked in the mbu at some point.
[2:03:36] Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, well I did no, No, I
[2:03:38] Speaker 3: actually I saw.
[2:03:40] Speaker 2: I played Friday in Miami with Alonso morning, I played,
[2:03:44] Speaker 2: Uh Sunday in Orlando with Grant Hill. He was getting
[2:03:47] Speaker 2: ready for the Tahoe Tournament.
[2:03:49] Speaker 8: Uh and high in booth where you're playing mboos out.
[2:03:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think which I think I played.
[2:03:57] Speaker 2: I think I played the back nine, uh with it
[2:04:00] Speaker 2: and so because I was, I was showing Grant.
[2:04:03] Speaker 1: Uh.
[2:04:04] Speaker 6: I played down Orlando with Grant and Vince Carter a
[2:04:06] Speaker 6: couple of donna Worth a couple of months ago.
[2:04:09] Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, well we played. We played at Alsworth.
[2:04:11] Speaker 2: Vince was supposed to join us, but he was busy. Uh,
[2:04:14] Speaker 2: he was busy with the kids. And see again, for
[2:04:17] Speaker 2: folks who don't know, see Mustapha.
[2:04:19] Speaker 3: Said where he is. You know, I know.
[2:04:21] Speaker 2: Then you got some people out there who think they
[2:04:23] Speaker 2: can play like Logan who works for us. He don't
[2:04:26] Speaker 2: know what the hell he doing. He ain't got no clue.
[2:04:28] Speaker 2: Terrail ain't got no clue. None of them Connecttion can
[2:04:32] Speaker 2: play any golf whatsoever. Uh oh yeah, oh yeah, no,
[2:04:37] Speaker 2: Grant's gonna be in the uh in the Taiho term
[2:04:39] Speaker 2: of this week.
[2:04:40] Speaker 3: And so I gave him some putting tips.
[2:04:42] Speaker 1: Uh.
[2:04:42] Speaker 2: And see, see this is when I this is when
[2:04:44] Speaker 2: you can tell people who are not real golfers.
[2:04:47] Speaker 3: So this is literally in my studio. This is literally
[2:04:50] Speaker 3: in my studio. And I've never.
[2:04:52] Speaker 2: Seen, uh, these these yahoos who work for me even
[2:04:57] Speaker 2: a tempt to practice.
[2:04:58] Speaker 3: So did I got my Yes, I'm serious. I got
[2:05:01] Speaker 3: the same put out mirror at home. Uh. And so
[2:05:05] Speaker 3: I'll sit here, you know, I'll come in here and.
[2:05:08] Speaker 2: I'll practice some swings if you will, of course, getting
[2:05:12] Speaker 2: ready to play. But yeah, see that's always that you
[2:05:15] Speaker 2: can tell real golfers if they if they actually practice,
[2:05:20] Speaker 2: they're putting in things like that.
[2:05:22] Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.
[2:05:23] Speaker 6: Yeah, I got some golfers you're playing with Donna in Orlando, though,
[2:05:26] Speaker 6: Vince plays at MBOO. Vince Carter plays at MBOO religiously.
[2:05:29] Speaker 6: He talked him a couple of days ago, and he's
[2:05:32] Speaker 6: been playing the ball for well over a year now
[2:05:34] Speaker 6: and he can hit the ball good ways as well.
[2:05:36] Speaker 6: So that is about the level where you you're going
[2:05:38] Speaker 6: to find some improvement there.
[2:05:39] Speaker 2: YEA, Well, I saw I saw someone with Vince's handicap
[2:05:42] Speaker 2: with four point seven uh, and so I got to
[2:05:45] Speaker 2: see for myself what that's like. So so I'm gonna
[2:05:48] Speaker 2: need to get I need to double check. I think
[2:05:50] Speaker 2: I might have a sleeve of the mboo's at home.
[2:05:53] Speaker 2: I might have because I, like I say, I played them,
[2:05:56] Speaker 2: So I need to double check.
[2:05:57] Speaker 1: Uh.
[2:05:57] Speaker 8: Talk to Carol about making that happen.
[2:05:59] Speaker 3: Carol, we'll have a chat out for this, all right,
[2:06:02] Speaker 3: No sweat, no sweat, because I'm always definitely out working
[2:06:06] Speaker 3: on my game. Folks, go to shop Blackstartnetwork dot com.
[2:06:09] Speaker 2: Shop blackstartnetwork dot com to check out the Renegade golf balls. Again,
[2:06:16] Speaker 2: a lot of y'all out there learning the game. You
[2:06:19] Speaker 2: have options if you will, and so please check it out.
[2:06:24] Speaker 2: Go to shop Blackstartnetwork dot com. And this is, you know,
[2:06:28] Speaker 2: one of the reasons why we created this to give
[2:06:31] Speaker 2: people an opportunity to learn about these black owned companies
[2:06:35] Speaker 2: such as renegade and I'm sitting here and I'm trying
[2:06:40] Speaker 2: to find it because I was looking on and I'm
[2:06:45] Speaker 2: a subscriber to Golf Digests, and where the hell is it?
[2:06:51] Speaker 3: Don you guys? Your ball was also on the Golf
[2:06:53] Speaker 3: Dodges hot List. Correct.
[2:06:54] Speaker 6: Yeah, so twenty twenty four we were on the golf
[2:06:56] Speaker 6: light is hotlst for the mboo and we didn't produce
[2:06:58] Speaker 6: the golf ball last.
[2:06:59] Speaker 8: Year and we just brought it back this year for
[2:07:01] Speaker 8: twenty twenty four. On the hot list.
[2:07:03] Speaker 6: We'll see the relegade enboot was awarded one of the
[2:07:05] Speaker 6: top new golf balls in the world and made it
[2:07:07] Speaker 6: to the Golf Lis Silver. So that's a big deal
[2:07:09] Speaker 6: in our first year having golf balls to be awarded
[2:07:12] Speaker 6: as a top golf.
[2:07:13] Speaker 8: All the world.
[2:07:13] Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, So okay, so Taylor, when I get back
[2:07:19] Speaker 2: to Chicago, we got to tee it up. I lived
[2:07:24] Speaker 2: in Chicago six years and so know those courses quite
[2:07:28] Speaker 2: well and always out because wherever I go, my clubs
[2:07:33] Speaker 2: go with me. And so yeah, we'll be doing that.
[2:07:36] Speaker 2: So we certainly appreciate it you joining us. Thank you
[2:07:40] Speaker 2: so very much. Also, Taylor, tell peop where they can
[2:07:42] Speaker 2: follow you.
[2:07:45] Speaker 32: You can follow me on Instagram at ty Miller Golf.
[2:07:48] Speaker 2: Tay Miller Golf. Yes, all right, then, Kenneth, we appreciate
[2:07:53] Speaker 2: it as well. And we'll be in Atlanta for a
[2:07:57] Speaker 2: week for the National Association of Black Journalists convention, and
[2:08:01] Speaker 2: I think that week, I think that Tuesday, October, London's
[2:08:06] Speaker 2: having a golf tournament and then Chris Tucker, I've already
[2:08:09] Speaker 2: hit him trying to find out what if he's locked
[2:08:11] Speaker 2: his date in for his tournament as well. So look
[2:08:14] Speaker 2: forward to We were just there last month for the
[2:08:16] Speaker 2: War Done Golf tournament and.
[2:08:18] Speaker 3: So look forward to it. We appreciate it.
[2:08:20] Speaker 8: Thanks a lot, awesome see there.
[2:08:22] Speaker 2: All right, thanks a bunch, y'all. Go to shop Blackstar
[2:08:24] Speaker 2: network dot com. You know, as we were talking, you know,
[2:08:27] Speaker 2: it was when was this we're not go out, let
[2:08:29] Speaker 2: me double check this date. So this was give me
[2:08:34] Speaker 2: a second, y'all. This was so June twenty fifth, June
[2:08:38] Speaker 2: twenty fifth, so that whatever that previous Sunday, I played
[2:08:42] Speaker 2: in the golf tournament Russ Park, man Keenan Towns had
[2:08:44] Speaker 2: a golf tournament for man Russ Park and the Social
[2:08:47] Speaker 2: Golf Association got together and they do this once a month.
[2:08:52] Speaker 2: They have a gathering. Can go to my video on
[2:08:54] Speaker 2: my pad. They have a gathering where folks come out.
[2:08:58] Speaker 2: They got food trucks, they got a DJ. The folks
[2:09:01] Speaker 2: who all levels of golf, folks who want to learn
[2:09:03] Speaker 2: the game. They come out there and you can turn
[2:09:06] Speaker 2: all you up. And so I would sit out there.
[2:09:10] Speaker 2: They said, hey man, you neither you need to stop by,
[2:09:12] Speaker 2: not that loud, bring it down please, And so they said,
[2:09:15] Speaker 2: hey man, you need to come on out, and so
[2:09:17] Speaker 2: they went from seven to ten. We finished the show
[2:09:21] Speaker 2: at eight, and so I went on out and.
[2:09:24] Speaker 3: Caught up with them.
[2:09:24] Speaker 2: And they had different golf brands out there. The guys
[2:09:28] Speaker 2: Folks with a fair Way was out there with their
[2:09:31] Speaker 2: golf products. You had another company that was out there.
[2:09:35] Speaker 2: They are the Lab actually was a black owned the
[2:09:40] Speaker 2: black owned company. They make golf clubs. And so they
[2:09:45] Speaker 2: were out there as well. And so folks who are
[2:09:47] Speaker 2: having a good time again, folks are all skill level
[2:09:50] Speaker 2: out there. Then they also took a big old group
[2:09:54] Speaker 2: photo and then I actually got them to do a drop,
[2:09:58] Speaker 2: to do a drop for the so we're gonna use
[2:10:01] Speaker 2: that on the show.
[2:10:03] Speaker 24: Uh.
[2:10:03] Speaker 3: And so this was a course. Uh, everybody going out
[2:10:08] Speaker 3: to the driving range to take uh, to take it all.
[2:10:11] Speaker 3: And so uh that's what we did. And and as
[2:10:15] Speaker 3: I said, I wanted them to to do a drop.
[2:10:19] Speaker 3: And so here is them doing the shout out for
[2:10:23] Speaker 3: the show. All right, check this out, go to my
[2:10:25] Speaker 3: go to my other other phone. Anthony one, two three,
[2:10:38] Speaker 3: were good.
[2:10:39] Speaker 1: There we go.
[2:10:40] Speaker 2: So all right, So y'all know how I feel about
[2:10:43] Speaker 2: the game of golf. It is fantastic opportunity to really
[2:10:46] Speaker 2: connect with folks in a different way. And listen, man,
[2:10:48] Speaker 2: when you go play man, you're spending literally you're spending
[2:10:52] Speaker 2: a great amount of time around the golf four four
[2:10:55] Speaker 2: and a half hours with somebody. You really get to
[2:10:57] Speaker 2: know folks, and so uh an increasing number about folks
[2:11:00] Speaker 2: who are playing the game. And just so folks understand.
[2:11:04] Speaker 2: And I'm going to have him on in a week
[2:11:07] Speaker 2: or so, let me try this week. My man Window
[2:11:09] Speaker 2: has because he has an annual golf tournament, the Original
[2:11:11] Speaker 2: t Classic, and it's he's been honoring black golfers. They
[2:11:16] Speaker 2: also have you young golfers out there, brothers and sisters.
[2:11:20] Speaker 3: They're sort of a.
[2:11:21] Speaker 2: Tournament within the tournament provides them prize money to help
[2:11:24] Speaker 2: them and one of the things that and he does
[2:11:27] Speaker 2: that tournament because George Grant, who was a black dentist,
[2:11:31] Speaker 2: went to Harvard. He actually is the creator of the
[2:11:35] Speaker 2: golf tea. And so whenever I hear these people say,
[2:11:38] Speaker 2: oh man, y'all sit there playing the white man's game,
[2:11:40] Speaker 2: they have no idea what they're talking about. Black people
[2:11:42] Speaker 2: have been playing golfer for a very long time. And
[2:11:45] Speaker 2: you've got some brothers who were not for the white
[2:11:49] Speaker 2: only Caucasian rule, they would have been some of the
[2:11:52] Speaker 2: best black golfers in American history. This is long before
[2:11:55] Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, so look forward to that. All right, folks,
[2:11:58] Speaker 2: that is it for us on today's show. Let me
[2:12:01] Speaker 2: thank Teresa Mustafa and of course Zabor God. I'm sitting
[2:12:09] Speaker 2: here like held because I'm looking for I didn't see her.
[2:12:12] Speaker 2: If they already signed all let me think they've been
[2:12:13] Speaker 2: on today's show.
[2:12:14] Speaker 3: Folks. Also, let me shout out Florida Memorial.
[2:12:17] Speaker 2: I'm rocking their T shirt today, the HBCU shirt that
[2:12:21] Speaker 2: I'm wearing today, So shout out to the blue and orange.
[2:12:24] Speaker 2: No window, this is not the New York Knicks blue
[2:12:26] Speaker 2: and orange. This is Florida Memorial had my astros blowing
[2:12:29] Speaker 2: orange earlier, and so he's actually he's a huge Knicks fan.
[2:12:33] Speaker 2: He's up so paying how much? How much to the
[2:12:36] Speaker 2: Knicks officious golf tournament. I said, Man, don't be giving
[2:12:38] Speaker 2: away no blue and orange crap with the Knicks on
[2:12:40] Speaker 2: and I want to hear that anyway, folks, if y'all
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[2:14:09] Speaker 3: Those are all about. And so we certainly appreciate it.
[2:14:13] Speaker 3: Thanks a bunch and times up.
[2:14:16] Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over here and I hit a few
[2:14:17] Speaker 2: golf balls and show these wanna be golfers in my
[2:14:21] Speaker 2: control room what a real golfer looks like, especially poor
[2:14:27] Speaker 2: little Logan, because he keep running his mouth talking about
[2:14:30] Speaker 2: oh no, no, I can hit the golf ball, y'all.
[2:14:32] Speaker 3: That boy can't hit a golf ball to save his life.
[2:14:35] Speaker 2: And I took the entrance last year, and trust me,
[2:14:39] Speaker 2: it was a horrid experience for me having to actually
[2:14:43] Speaker 2: look at that awful swing. It was just rough on
[2:14:48] Speaker 2: rough on a brother's eyes. And again he he just
[2:14:52] Speaker 2: keep claiming he can play, and I know he can't.
[2:14:54] Speaker 2: And I and I told him that if he that,
[2:14:58] Speaker 2: and see some of y'all out there, see some of
[2:15:00] Speaker 2: y'all trip as well, but y'all need to understand something.
[2:15:05] Speaker 3: Those of us can play. And so we're just gonna
[2:15:07] Speaker 3: close the show on this. And I said to Logan,
[2:15:10] Speaker 3: if you really want to see what a real golf
[2:15:12] Speaker 3: swing looks like, then and if you keep claiming you
[2:15:18] Speaker 3: know your golf swing is real, which I don't buy,
[2:15:21] Speaker 3: trust me, I don't buy at all. So Logan will
[2:15:25] Speaker 3: never will never have a golf swing like this, Anthony,
[2:15:29] Speaker 3: See Logan, you will never swing like this here. Never
[2:15:33] Speaker 3: look at this boom down the line, five wood, two
[2:15:37] Speaker 3: hundred and twenty yards out. Yeah, look at that form.
[2:15:40] Speaker 3: You can't even Logan, you have no shot. You have
[2:15:43] Speaker 3: no shot.
[2:15:44] Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know, He's letting you know. I mean,
[2:15:46] Speaker 2: you got no shot. So y'all, he thinks he thinks
[2:15:49] Speaker 2: he has a golf swing, but he doesn't. But y'all
[2:15:52] Speaker 2: know the how these these little, these little young folks
[2:15:55] Speaker 2: are today. They always run their miles, and they think
[2:15:58] Speaker 2: they know what's best. And then sometimes you just gotta
[2:16:01] Speaker 2: go ahead and spank them and show them who's the boss.
[2:16:04] Speaker 2: All right, I'll see how tomorrow roll them out unfiltered

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