# 21st century peaks Ep 8 | Floor generals, “engines” & 2-way Midrangers

An episode of [Thinking Basketball](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1428290303), 11 Sep 2025, 1 h 29 min.

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We tackle Chris Paul's “floor general” approach to offense and the pros and cons of how he pressured defenses (and his turnover suppression). Also, how did he change defensively from 2008 in New Orleans to his Clippers tenure? Where does he rank among small defenders? Then we make sense of Kawhi Leonard's historic scoring numbers and shooting, and the surprising heights of his team's offenses, along with his fluctuating defensive signals. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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