# The Wilderness: Kamala Harris’s Winning Message (S4E7)

An episode of [Runaway Country with Alex Wagner](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1408796715), 11 Aug 2024, 54 min.

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Jon is joined Democratic message guru Anat Shenker-Osorio and longtime political strategist Michael Podhorzer to talk about how swing voters are reacting to a Harris-Walz ticket and what message the campaign will need to win them over in November. They break down why Tim Walz has been a uniquely effective messenger, how Kamala Harris is reclaiming freedom from Republicans, and how Minnesota’s 2018 “Greater than Fear” campaign set the stage for this moment. Take action with Vote Save America: Visit votesaveamerica.com/2024 Order Democracy or Else: How to Save America in 10 Easy Steps at crooked.com/books or wherever books are sold.

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