# "Recycling news" that Bree promises will BLOW. YOUR. MIND

An episode of [ZM's Bree & Clint](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1404629048), 28 Oct 2026, 6:39.

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But she has been known to over-hype things a bit. Bree Tomasel & Clint Roberts on ZM - find us @breeandclint on Instagram, Facebook and TikTok. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Playing it. It's ZDM's Brian Clint, the podcast.
[0:06] Speaker 2: Now, look, guys, I have promised huge recycling news, and
[0:13] Speaker 2: I don't think I've oversold it.
[0:16] Speaker 3: I stand by that.
[0:18] Speaker 2: This is the biggest news in recycling that you're going
[0:23] Speaker 2: to be so invested in, so interested in, since they
[0:27] Speaker 2: bought in the yellow bin.
[0:30] Speaker 1: Okay. We have a... I want to be excited. I'm
[0:34] Speaker 1: going to get on board. We have a little bit
[0:36] Speaker 1: of a history on this show.
[0:38] Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
[0:39] Speaker 4: Of Brie promising us mind-blowing facts or information. And I
[0:43] Speaker 4: think on two occasions, Claudia, you and I have been.
[0:46] Speaker 3: Two occasions?
[0:48] Speaker 1: Underwhelmed.
[0:48] Speaker 3: Underwhelmed. Like, good fact, but not, like, we go, oh.
[0:53] Speaker 1: It's because you set the bar up here.
[0:56] Speaker 3: I've learnt from my mistakes. I don't think that that
[0:59] Speaker 3: is the case here.
[1:00] Speaker 4: No, if you'd learnt from your mistakes, you would have
[1:02] Speaker 4: undersold it a bit. You have billed this as the greatest.
[1:05] Speaker 3: I think I have undersold it. That's how big this is. What?
[1:09] Speaker 4: You think it's actually better than the greatest bit of
[1:11] Speaker 4: recycling news ever?
[1:13] Speaker 3: You know what this is?
[1:14] Speaker 2: This news for recycling is what sliced bread was for bread.
[1:20] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:21] Speaker 4: We're going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
[1:23] Speaker 4: Grace has never been here before, okay? She's never been
[1:25] Speaker 4: treated to a mind-blowing breism.
[1:27] Speaker 3: I'm so excited. It's massive.
[1:29] Speaker 1: Grace also, by the way, just to add a little
[1:32] Speaker 1: bit of... pressure to this too.
[1:33] Speaker 4: Just on Friday she told us that one of the
[1:36] Speaker 4: signs she believes her frontal lobe has fully developed is
[1:39] Speaker 4: because she is now quote into recycling.
[1:42] Speaker 3: So this matters to me. Oh yeah.
[1:44] Speaker 1: She's personally invested.
[1:46] Speaker 3: You know what guys?
[1:49] Speaker 2: Let me just read you this. Let me just read
[1:51] Speaker 2: you the headline and it'll say it all.
[1:53] Speaker 1: Is a drum roll worthy?
[1:54] Speaker 3: Two. I want two drum rolls.
[2:00] Speaker 1: Two at the same time?
[2:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
[2:04] Speaker 2: New study reveals paper straws worse for environment than plastic straws.
[2:20] Speaker 1: Huge.
[2:21] Speaker 3: That's kind of tea. Thank you, guys.
[2:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:24] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. First of all, hell yeah.
[2:26] Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
[2:26] Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Screw you plastic floppy ass drawers. We hate you.
[2:30] Speaker 3: This is huge news for the recycling. Did I not
[2:34] Speaker 3: say how big it was?
[2:35] Speaker 1: It's pretty big.
[2:38] Speaker 3: How much do we know? I also just.
[2:40] Speaker 2: I just.
[2:41] Speaker 1: I just, no, no, so let's sit in the impact.
[2:43] Speaker 2: How much do we all hate paper straws?
[2:45] Speaker 1: We hate paper straws. Yuck.
[2:46] Speaker 3: It's universal across the board. We hate paper straws. I
[2:51] Speaker 3: don't hate them that much, but.
[2:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, Brie does. I hate them.
[2:56] Speaker 3: Why? No one else hates paper straws.
[2:58] Speaker 1: It's just me. So if there was no environmental impact,
[3:00] Speaker 1: would you choose a paper or a plastic? You'd choose
[3:03] Speaker 1: a paper. You'd choose a plastic, wouldn't you?
[3:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:04] Speaker 1: You would.
[3:06] Speaker 3: Why are you thinking about it? Okay. Paper straws are
[3:10] Speaker 3: like a limp Okay.
[3:11] Speaker 2: Awful, awful utensil to suck any kind of liquid from.
[3:16] Speaker 1: Now, may I say something?
[3:19] Speaker 3: Who wants– yes.
[3:20] Speaker 1: May I dare say something? Here we go.
[3:22] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no.
[3:23] Speaker 1: I love it.
[3:24] Speaker 3: I love it.
[3:24] Speaker 1: It's great information. It's great information.
[3:26] Speaker 3: I haven't even gotten to the details. You haven't even
[3:28] Speaker 3: heard the details yet.
[3:30] Speaker 2: The research comes from South Korea's Ministry of Climate, Energy
[3:34] Speaker 2: and Environment, which they analyse four types of straws, paper, plastic,
[3:40] Speaker 2: biodegradable plastic and sugarcane based across 16 environmental categories.
[3:46] Speaker 3: So this was an intense study. They did a lot.
[3:50] Speaker 3: Traditional plastic straws showed the lowest environmental footprint in 10
[3:59] Speaker 3: of the 16 categories. It won in 10, including human toxicity,
[4:06] Speaker 3: particle matter, and overall climate change impact.
[4:15] Speaker 2: Hell, yeah.
[4:15] Speaker 3: This is massive.
[4:16] Speaker 4: Now, that's so good. Can I just make one point?
[4:21] Speaker 4: This is not recycling news.
[4:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my biggest. No, it is.
[4:25] Speaker 4: No, how is this recycling news? You promised us huge
[4:30] Speaker 4: recycling news. Neither of these items are recyclable. There's no
[4:37] Speaker 4: recycling involved in this news. You should have said, you
[4:40] Speaker 4: should have billed this as the biggest straw news.
[4:44] Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
[4:46] Speaker 1: Wait.
[4:47] Speaker 3: Trying to find it.
[4:48] Speaker 2: Paper straws were found to generate over six times more
[4:52] Speaker 2: carcinogens than standard plastic, along with the double impact on
[4:56] Speaker 2: environmental acidification. But paper straws. people say, aren't paper straws
[5:05] Speaker 2: better for recycling?
[5:06] Speaker 3: That's what they say.
[5:07] Speaker 1: Isn't it better for the environment? Who's recycling their straws?
[5:10] Speaker 3: That's what they say. That's why we have to use
[5:12] Speaker 3: the paper ones.
[5:12] Speaker 1: No, because they're better for the environment because they biodegrade.
[5:15] Speaker 3: Because they can be recycled.
[5:16] Speaker 1: No, because they biodegrade.
[5:18] Speaker 3: The study found that because paper straws are so small, they.
[5:22] Speaker 1: They biodegrade in your mouth.
[5:23] Speaker 2: Guys.
[5:24] Speaker 1: I've been putting them in the wrong place.
[5:25] Speaker 2: The study found that because paper straws are so small,
[5:28] Speaker 2: they routinely slip through sorting equipment at recycling facilities, meaning
[5:33] Speaker 2: almost none actually get recycled.
[5:37] Speaker 3: None.
[5:37] Speaker 4: You can't recycle a plastic straw in New Zealand either.
[5:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's fine.
[5:43] Speaker 2: It still showed that plastic straws, less of an environmental impact.
[5:49] Speaker 3: I've got to be honest. I thought this was going
[5:51] Speaker 3: to be good news, but this is all quite like the.
[5:53] Speaker 1: World's on fire.
[5:54] Speaker 3: This is great news. We get plastic straws back without guilt.
[5:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a guilt-free plastic straw. It's a guilt-free
[5:59] Speaker 1: plastic straw. It is a guilt-free plastic straw.
[6:01] Speaker 3: And to be fair, when I go to the movies,
[6:03] Speaker 3: and you know, you've got a big, I'd grab four
[6:05] Speaker 3: paper straws so that I can keep replacing them. Four
[6:09] Speaker 3: is the minimum amount.
[6:10] Speaker 1: Grace's seat is just littered with limp, wet straws.
[6:14] Speaker 3: For the minimum amount to drink down a frozen Coke. Yeah, totes.
[6:17] Speaker 3: I think you guys didn't want to love this.
[6:20] Speaker 1: I really did.
[6:21] Speaker 3: No, I did.
[6:22] Speaker 4: Someone said, this is not recycling news. This is anti-recycling news.
[6:26] Speaker 3: Still, the word recycling is in there. I'll give it
[6:30] Speaker 3: to you.
[6:30] Speaker 1: So it counts.
[6:31] Speaker 4: Play ZM's Brie and Clint on Insta, Facebook, TikTok, and
[6:35] Speaker 4: live weekdays from 3 on ZM.

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