# Seeing the unseen: why geospatial intelligence is important

An episode of [The National Security Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1395131021), 6 Nov 2025, 42 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/the-national-security-podcast/e/690bd3602f5fdede34530559/media.mp3

What are the origins of the Australian Geospatial-Intelligence Organisation (AGO), and how has the organisation developed within the National Intelligence Community? How does AGO contribute to the broader remit of Australian statecraft, the work done by other NIC agencies, and the Five Eyes partnership? What makes innovation in the geospatial intelligence space key to building resilience? In this episode Kathryn McMullan joins Sally Bulkeley to discuss the importance of geospatial intelligence, how it contributes to statecraft, and how the AGO works with other partners to enhance national security and resilience. Kathryn McMullan is the Director of AGO. Sally Bulkeley is Deputy Head of the ANU National Security College. TRANSCRIPT Show Notes: AGO | National Intelligence Community Five Eyes wide shut: now is the wrong time to pause in shaping Australia’s intelligence agencies We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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