# Remember, Every Underappreciated Risk Is Just a Crisis Waiting to Be Discovered

An episode of [CISO Series Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1391337832), 7 Apr 2026, 43 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/davidspark/CISO_Series_Podcast_04-07-26.mp3?dest-id=37324

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is hosted by me, David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis, principal of Duha. Joining us is Hilik Kotler, svp, CISO and IT, Expedia Group. In this episode: • The numbers game • What makes a vendor worth your time • Humanity in the loop • Alignment is a prerequisite, not a nice-to-have A huge thanks to our sponsor, Vanta Risk and regulation ramping up—and customers expect proof of security just to do business. Vanta's automation brings compliance, risk, and customer trust together on one AI-powered platform. So whether you're prepping for a SOC 2 or running an enterprise GRC program, Vanta keeps you secure—and keeps your deals moving. Learn more at vanta.com/ciso.

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