# The Difference with AI Red Teaming is We Added the Word AI

An episode of [CISO Series Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1391337832), 14 Oct 2025, 38 min.

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All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is hosted by David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis, principal of Duha. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Khush Kashyap, senior director, GRC, Vanta. In this episode: • Skip the Sermon • When to coach versus command • Making risk quantification useful • Recognizing a distinct discipline Huge thanks to our sponsor, Vanta Vanta automates key areas of your GRC program—including compliance, risk, and customer trust—and streamlines the way you manage information. A recent IDC analysis found that compliance teams using Vanta are 129% more productive. Get back time to focus on strengthening security and scaling your business at https://www.vanta.com/landing/demo-grc?utm_campaign=new-way-grc&utm_source=ciso-series-podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=banner

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