# Secure by Design. Ignored by Default.

An episode of [CISO Series Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1391337832), 18 Aug 2026, 38 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/davidspark/CISO_Series_Podcast_08-18-26.mp3?dest-id=37324

All links and images can be found on CISO Series This week's episode is hosted by David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis, principal of Duha. Joining is Julie Davila, president, Security Tinkerers. In this episode: • Two paths, one dead end • One size fits nobody • Own it or orphan it • The agent you should worry about A huge thanks to our sponsor, Guardsquare Guardsquare delivers mobile app security without compromise, providing advanced protections for both Android and iOS apps. From app security testing to code hardening to real-time visibility into the threat landscape, Guardsquare solutions provide enhanced mobile application security from early in the development process through publication. Learn more about how to protect your app at Guardsquare.com/CISO.

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