# We All Agree That Prevention Is the Best Advice We're Never Going to Follow

An episode of [CISO Series Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1391337832), 9 Sep 2025, 44 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/davidspark/CISO_Series_Podcast_09-09-25.mp3?dest-id=37324

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is hosted by David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis, principal of Duha. Joining us is Jason Loomis, CISO, Freshworks. In this episode: • Making organizations take their security medicine • Building CISO support systems • Holding the door for humans • Underappreciated risks: beyond the headlines Huge thanks to our sponsor, Safe Security SAFE is the category leader in Cyber Risk Quantification (CRQ) and the first vendor to deliver fully autonomous Third-Party Risk Management.We help CISOs, GRC, and TPRM leaders continuously and efficiently quantify, prioritize, and mitigate cyber risks across their entire attack surface — enabling digital growth and resilience. Learn more at tprmdemo.safe.security.

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