# Putin’s Play in NK: The Truth of the Matter Crossover Episode

An episode of [The Impossible State](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1389951701), 21 Jun 2024, 17 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS5286939695.mp3?updated=1718999557

In a crossover episode with CSIS's The Truth of the Matter, Dr. Victor Cha discusses Vladimir Putin’s visit to Pyongyang and why he believes the “Mutual Defense Treaty” agreed to by Russia and North Korea is the greatest threat to U.S. national security since the Korean War. Also discussed—what this means for the U.S. and its allies and how it impacts China.

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