# Soft Diplomacy, Hard Stance

An episode of [The Impossible State](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1389951701), 1 Nov 2019, 32 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS4377654391.mp3

In this episode, Andrew talks with resident North Korea expert Victor Cha, and Dr. Kang Choi, acting president of the Asan Institute for Policy Studies. They discuss North Korea’s recent missile launch, South Korea-Japan relations, and more.

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