# S4 E13 - Managing Your Energy to Lead Sustainably with Shubhayan Sanatani

An episode of [The Inspire Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1380867359), 7 Sep 2022, 35 min.

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The last few years have been draining for leaders as pressures have increased from employees under strain, organizations asking more, and the relentlessness of virtual meetings. Many leaders are burning out and finding their level of energy slipping. In this episode, Bart speaks with Dr. Shubhayan Sanatani, Pediatric Cardiologist and Electrophysiologist of BC Children’s Hospital about his research into fatigue and how it’s given him insights into what leaders can do to manage their energy sustainably. He explains what to watch for, how to give yourself permission to see the treadmill you’re on, how to do a self-inventory and how to withdraw from some things. In a time where leaders are more burnt out Dr. Sanatani provides practical insights to keep us going and energized. Read more about Dr Sanatani’s work here https://keltymentalhealth.ca/blog/2022/03/mindfulness-pediatric-cardiologists-story 00:54 Teaser 00:14 Show Introduction 00:53 Introducing Shu 01:25 Research into “Energy” 03:35 Diagnosis: Dysautonomia 04:14 Covid causing autonomic dysfunction 04:54 Young people struggling with fatigue/dizziness 05:51 Adolescent energy inventory 06:43 Social media 08:49 The aha moment: Often doing a lot more than we realize 10:39 Implications to adults 11:34 Letting go of work 12:00 Responsibility as energy drain 14:08 Impacts to health 15:03 New communication tech is draining 16:06 Advice from Dr about energy issues 16:33 Look for cues of irritability and lethargy 18:56 Know when you’ve hit your limits 20:50 Doing inventory of how you’re spending the energy 22:18 Mindfulness 24:19 After inventory? 24:29 Acknowledging you have an issue 24:44 Changing something up 25:10 There’s always something coming down the pipe… 25:31 Get comfortable with stepping back 28:51 How to overcome resistance to change 32:55 Thank yous 33:18 Outro

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