# ‘We’ve taken our progressive voters for granted’: Labour ex-minister

An episode of [Politics Weekly UK](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/136697472), 25 Sep 2025, 30 min.

Audio: https://flex.acast.com/audio.guim.co.uk/2025/09/24-67461-We_ve_taken_our_progressive_voters_for_granted__ex_Labour_minister.mp3

John Harris is joined by the Labour MP Lucy Powell, a former cabinet minister who is a running for deputy leadership of the party, to discuss why the government is failing to stem the surge in support for Reform and whether a change in tactics could help Keir Starmer take on Nigel Farage. Plus, how certain is the prime minister’s future? And how would Powell work with Starmer if she becomes deputy leader. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/politicspod

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