# Trump WH Press Secy out after 5 days; SNL's Michael Che x Ari

An episode of [The Beat with Ari Melber](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1364113251), 16 Oct 2026, 42 min.

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October 16, 2026; President Trump’s White House press secretary Katie Zacharia is out after just five days on the job. MS NOW’s Ari Melber reports and is joined by Joe Lockhart, former White House press secretary under President Bill Clinton, and The New York Times’ Molly Jong-Fast. Plus, Melber sits down with “Saturday Night Live” comedian Michael Che for an extended conversation on free speech, Trump and comedy. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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