# Read Like a Champion (with Doug Lemov)

An episode of [EconTalk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/135066958), 28 Jul 2025, 1 h 04 min.

Audio: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/6fdba516-8381-43b0-b29f-59d05512b693/episodes/765f17de-20df-4afa-a027-cde3d0841423/audio/8d95e21e-6473-4044-83fb-06f0f4faabb5/default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=wgl4xEgL

Many students graduate high school today without having read a book cover to cover. Many students struggle to learn to read at all. How did this happen? Listen as educator and author Doug Lemov talks with EconTalk's Russ Roberts about the failed fads in reading education, the mistaken emphasis on vocabulary as a skill, and the importance of background knowledge for thinking and reading comprehension. Lemov and Roberts also discuss their love of difficult-to-read authors, the power of reading in groups, the value of keeping a reading journal, and how even basketball can be more enjoyable when we have the right terminology.

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