# The Music and Magic of John and Paul (with Ian Leslie)

An episode of [EconTalk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/135066958), 7 Apr 2025, 1 h 18 min.

Audio: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/6fdba516-8381-43b0-b29f-59d05512b693/episodes/c9c93238-acaa-44df-bb37-8b07c9d433d0/audio/0ca38719-8126-4a6b-a4a8-2062804ed88e/default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=wgl4xEgL

At the heart of the success of the Beatles was the creative chemistry and volatile friendship between John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Listen as author Ian Leslie discusses his book, John & Paul: A Love Story in Songs with EconTalk's Russ Roberts. It's a deep dive into music and friendship as well as a revisionist history about how John and Paul created musical magic.

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