# Is 'drill baby drill' the answer to our fuel crisis?

An episode of [ABC News Daily](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1349523628), 22 Apr 2026, 16 min.

Audio: https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/02/jq/Z/p2.mp3

US President Donald Trump is all in on it, but could Australia 'drill baby drill' its way to fuel security and avoid oil shocks in the future? Australia used to have a network of refineries and we were mostly self-sufficient in fuel production. Who let so many close and why? Today, Alison Reeve, energy expert from the Grattan Institute on whether we really could build new refineries and successfully exploit new oil fields. Featured: Alison Reeve, Energy and Climate Change Program Director at the Grattan Institute

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