# Why Anika Wells’ travel costs don’t fly with taxpayers

An episode of [ABC News Daily](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1349523628), 10 Dec 2025, 16 min.

Audio: https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/02/fq/Z/vo.mp3

Imagine being able to claim thousands and thousands of dollars in expenses so your family can join you on work trips, or to fly business class to New York, or for private drivers to take you to the biggest sporting events. Well, Minister Anika Wells is under intense pressure to justify her use of taxpayer funds, even if it’s all within the rules. Today, the chief political correspondent at The Conversation, Michelle Grattan on why the perks for politicians are a honey pot and a trap. Featured: Michelle Grattan, chief political correspondent at The Conversation and a professorial fellow at the University of Canberra

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