# Something Scary Is Happening In Biolabs - Annie Jacobsen - #1127

An episode of [Modern Wisdom](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1347973549), 23 Jul 2026, 1 h 37 min.

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Annie Jacobsen is a journalist, investigative reporter and an author. For decades, nuclear war has been humanity’s greatest existential fear. But the next global catastrophe may not arrive with a mushroom cloud—it could begin inside a laboratory. What would a biological attack actually look like, how quickly would it spread, and could humanity survive it? Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 160+ lab tests for just $365 and save an extra $25 at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get 10% discount on all Gymshark products at https://gym.sh/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM10) Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom Get ChatGPT to explore ideas, solve problems, and learn faster at https://chatgpt.com Timestamps: (00:00) Nuclear vs Biological War: Which Is Worse? (01:08) Why No One Is Talking About Bioweapons (04:23) Is Genetic Engineering a Good Thing? (07:14) What COVID Really Taught Us (13:25) Who Created the First Biological Weapon? (21:25) What Makes the Perfect Biological Weapon? (26:44) The Soviet Bioweapons Ambition (27:50) How the Soviet Program Was Exposed (34:38) How Many Bioweapons Are Man-Made? (37:30) The Biggest Mistakes in Bioweapons History (45:04) What Happens in the First 24 Hours of a Leak? (56:02) Bacteria vs Virus: Which Is More Dangerous? (57:19) Does Dose Responsiveness Determine Survival? (59:21) Are Incubation Time and Lethality Correlated? (01:02:19) How the Soviets Created a Euphoric Plague (01:08:39) Six Days: From Outbreak to Anarchy (01:23:37) How Close COVID Came to Social Breakdown (01:36:24) Where to Find Annie Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: lnkfi.re/SN-Goggins #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: lnkfi.re/SN-Peterson #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: lnkfi.re/SN-Huberman - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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