# Where do Leinster and Ulster go from here?

An episode of [The Counter Ruck: The Irish Times Rugby Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1341682574), 26 May 2026, 39 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/64ef6d9e5464d50011bafece/e/6a147e0acb11d38a8b690589/media.mp3

After sobering defeats for both Leinster and Ulster in European deciders, Nathan Johns and Gordon D’Arcy look back at the weekend. Analysis of where things went wrong plus thoughts on how Irish teams might be able to narrow the gap to their French counterparts. Is player recruitment key for both provinces? And should Leinster rethink their focus on defence? Produced by John Casey. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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