# 230: Understanding Shame with Shane Birkel

An episode of [The Couples Therapist Couch](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1281853816), 17 Feb 2025, 32 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/couplestherapistcouch/230_Understanding_Shame_with_Shane_Birkel.mp3?dest-id=540575

Get the Couples Therapy 101 course: https://www.couplestherapistcouch.com/ Join the Couples Therapist Inner Circle: https://www.couplestherapistcouch.com/inner-circle-new Join The Couples Therapist Couch Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/295562197518469/ In this solo episode, Shane discusses how shame works and how to talk through shame with your clients. Hear the definition of shame, toxic shame vs. healthy shame, examples of shame between partners and children, how shame relates to compassion, and how to help your clients slow down and process the shame they're feeling

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