# Scrub… Or Something

An episode of [Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1279955329), 24 Feb 2026, 48 min.

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Tanya is an industry leader when it comes to sleepmaxing, but which of the “sleep hacks” really work?? We get into mouth tape, white noise, and everything else to improve your snooze. Our heartstrings are pulled when discussing the viral story of Punch the monkey, and we pay our respects to the tragic loss of Eric Dane. Plus, a full review of the new Hilary Duff album and we revisit the Valentine’s Day debate! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Beca Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
[0:04] Speaker 1: and two times People's Choice Award winning podcast.
[0:11] Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
[0:18] Speaker 1: Oh.
[0:21] Speaker 3: She was just adjusting her mic. Yeah, I was how
[0:27] Speaker 3: you doing.
[0:27] Speaker 1: I'm doing fine? How are you doing?
[0:29] Speaker 3: I'm good? Good? Fine? That was your weekend?
[0:33] Speaker 1: Weekend was really nice. We celebrated Robbie's birthday.
[0:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, the birthday.
[0:37] Speaker 1: Boy, how's your weekend?
[0:39] Speaker 3: It was good.
[0:40] Speaker 2: We I had like big intentions to not do anything
[0:44] Speaker 2: because I've been.
[0:45] Speaker 3: Socialized out, but.
[0:49] Speaker 2: Haley somehow got me to like rearrange two of the
[0:53] Speaker 2: rooms in the house and move things. And in one
[0:57] Speaker 2: of the moves, we were trying to make one of
[0:58] Speaker 2: our rooms like a gem with all the equipment.
[1:01] Speaker 3: In there and stuff. And we were moving this mirror.
[1:06] Speaker 2: And Haley's not She's very mentally tough, but physically strength
[1:11] Speaker 2: wise nimble. Not nimble, delicate, delicate flower. And so we
[1:17] Speaker 2: were trying to move this mirror and it was very
[1:19] Speaker 2: top heavy. So I had that side and we were
[1:21] Speaker 2: carrying it sideways and I was trying to lift it up,
[1:26] Speaker 2: and her side like slid down or something. I don't
[1:29] Speaker 2: really know what happened, but my instinct was to not
[1:32] Speaker 2: let it hit.
[1:32] Speaker 3: The floor because it was like really heavy, so I squeezed.
[1:36] Speaker 3: I like tried to catch it with my legs.
[1:37] Speaker 2: So I put my legs together, and so the mirror
[1:39] Speaker 2: like basically hit both of my inner thighs and then
[1:43] Speaker 2: still went through them because it was so heavy and
[1:46] Speaker 2: hit the ground. So two bad things happened. I have
[1:50] Speaker 2: the craziest bruises on both of my.
[1:54] Speaker 3: Legs right now.
[1:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, they look pretty narly.
[1:56] Speaker 2: I was like googling, like when to be concerned about ruthas. Yeah,
[2:03] Speaker 2: so I haven't slapt because any move I make is
[2:06] Speaker 2: absolute pain. We're going to the Bahamas this week, and
[2:10] Speaker 2: I look like I've been like punched and beat. I
[2:14] Speaker 2: have bruises because I played basketball or inner thighs, right,
[2:18] Speaker 2: you mean like you.
[2:19] Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, like what are you gonna do?
[2:20] Speaker 1: They're like spread eagle at the beach.
[2:22] Speaker 2: They're not full in her They're more like quad, yes,
[2:28] Speaker 2: inner quad right above the knee. And I have bruises
[2:33] Speaker 2: from basketball last week, So I look like I've been
[2:36] Speaker 2: through it.
[2:36] Speaker 3: But it's okay.
[2:38] Speaker 1: Everything's fine, Everything's fine. I have bruises too, so what
[2:42] Speaker 1: are your bruises from skiing falling like two weeks ago?
[2:46] Speaker 3: I know, I that's very discouraging for me.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Right now it's getting much better, but yeah, they last.
[2:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been like looking into should I go to
[2:56] Speaker 2: acupuncture move the blood around?
[2:58] Speaker 3: I don't know anyway, So we did that, and it's
[3:00] Speaker 3: so funny.
[3:01] Speaker 2: Because we have this honestly stunning gym room with all
[3:05] Speaker 2: this equipment in there, and we just keep going to
[3:07] Speaker 2: look at it to admire how clean it is, but
[3:09] Speaker 2: no one's gotten in there to do anything active.
[3:12] Speaker 1: I'd like to come over and use it.
[3:13] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we're doing ten dollars membership, so.
[3:18] Speaker 1: Ten dollars a month.
[3:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, heck yeah. And you can use the pool outside. Wow,
[3:23] Speaker 3: jacuzzi full spa. Yeah, I have a sauna blanket wow. Yeah.
[3:29] Speaker 3: Well you could rent your sauna out.
[3:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, so we could us. We had like a gym
[3:33] Speaker 1: in our garage, Like I mean when I say gym,
[3:36] Speaker 1: like we have like weights and then like those a
[3:38] Speaker 1: little bike whatever, the thing that you lay on to
[3:40] Speaker 1: do the weights, a bench, a bench, so we had
[3:45] Speaker 1: like a couple of things in there, and then like
[3:46] Speaker 1: now it's just been so we did all of our stores,
[3:49] Speaker 1: Like all of our Christmas decorations are in there. It's
[3:51] Speaker 1: just become like total storage. So the area to work
[3:54] Speaker 1: out has become very very slim in there.
[3:57] Speaker 3: But you still have the sauna. Yeah, so we could
[4:00] Speaker 3: do a trade.
[4:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you a trade for the ten dollar
[4:04] Speaker 2: five dollars discount.
[4:05] Speaker 3: Ye. What did y'all do for Robbie's birthday?
[4:09] Speaker 1: I actually did something really cute and uh, I basically
[4:15] Speaker 1: planned out the entire weekend for him. But I made it.
[4:18] Speaker 1: I made like two different cards, so like it was
[4:20] Speaker 1: like said Saturday morning, Saturday morning, and then it'd be
[4:23] Speaker 1: like option one, option two, and he'd have to pick
[4:25] Speaker 1: a card and then whichever one he picked, that's what
[4:27] Speaker 1: we would do.
[4:28] Speaker 3: Oh, like what were the what were they?
[4:30] Speaker 1: Well? I made them the exact same option. So I
[4:32] Speaker 1: basically planned out the whole weekend without like thinking he
[4:37] Speaker 1: thinking that he would like randomly decide what his fate
[4:40] Speaker 1: was by like whichever envelope he picked.
[4:41] Speaker 3: You know, they said the same thing.
[4:43] Speaker 1: Each one was the same, each activity was the same.
[4:45] Speaker 1: Option one, option two were the exact same thing. But
[4:47] Speaker 1: he did never know, so he would like pull one
[4:50] Speaker 1: out and he would like, oh, this is we're going,
[4:51] Speaker 1: and I would rip up the other one.
[4:53] Speaker 3: Oh so he never knew no. Wow.
[4:55] Speaker 1: He kind of kept caught on when I like booked
[4:59] Speaker 1: him a massage and he was like, how are they
[5:01] Speaker 1: not to be here at eleven am tomorrow?
[5:03] Speaker 3: And I was like, you were like, I just took
[5:08] Speaker 3: a chance. Yeah.
[5:09] Speaker 1: I was like, well there could have been at one
[5:11] Speaker 1: o'clock too, like I was just trying to throw them off.
[5:13] Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but it.
[5:14] Speaker 1: Was really cute. He's like, you don't have to do this,
[5:16] Speaker 1: you know, you spoiled me so much, Like it was
[5:19] Speaker 1: really cute. Yeah, that's so fun. It was fun, even
[5:22] Speaker 1: the element of surprise, even though there was no surprise.
[5:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done that before.
[5:28] Speaker 2: And then like we got to the dessert portion and
[5:31] Speaker 2: Hayley chose one and she was like, what's the other option?
[5:34] Speaker 1: And she liked it better. Yeah, that's why I want
[5:37] Speaker 1: to happen.
[5:37] Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, when you have a massage planned,
[5:39] Speaker 2: but if you were doing like restaurants or something, yeah,
[5:41] Speaker 2: you could have made two reservations.
[5:43] Speaker 1: And then there was breakfast one morning. It was two
[5:45] Speaker 1: different spots and I was just like, whichever one. We
[5:49] Speaker 1: don't need a reservation.
[5:49] Speaker 3: You just go the eight hour weight one.
[5:51] Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's never going there again. But yeah,
[5:56] Speaker 1: it was cute.
[5:57] Speaker 2: Yesterday we went to meet one of our friends had
[6:02] Speaker 2: a baby in early January, or actually December thirty first,
[6:05] Speaker 2: so we went and met her for the first time.
[6:06] Speaker 3: Gabby, her baby.
[6:09] Speaker 2: She's perfect, Like every time she sent photos, I'm like,
[6:13] Speaker 2: I cannot wait to meet her.
[6:14] Speaker 3: So we got to go meet her.
[6:15] Speaker 2: We got to hang out with them for a little bit,
[6:17] Speaker 2: and then we went over to Haley's sisters and saw
[6:19] Speaker 2: her niece and nephew and so it was.
[6:21] Speaker 3: A day full of the children.
[6:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, we were exhausted. I was gonna say, how did
[6:27] Speaker 1: it make you feel tired?
[6:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, very tired. It makes me realize like parents really
[6:33] Speaker 2: are just the real ones, because it is it is just.
[6:37] Speaker 3: A mentally you don't even realize you're doing, like putting
[6:44] Speaker 3: effort into something. Yeah.
[6:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was like we just got to be
[6:49] Speaker 2: the fun aunts who come over. You know, we're not
[6:51] Speaker 2: even really having to do the parenting.
[6:53] Speaker 1: We're in that phase of life for like every like
[6:55] Speaker 1: I got invited, I'm invited to two baby showers on
[6:58] Speaker 1: the exact same day at the exact same time.
[7:01] Speaker 2: But they're always like a range, you know, it's always
[7:04] Speaker 2: like twelve to four or something.
[7:05] Speaker 1: They're one to three and ones like in La Proper
[7:09] Speaker 1: and the other ones in Calabasas.
[7:10] Speaker 3: So how are you doing it?
[7:11] Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure Robbie's invited to one.
[7:15] Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna have him go to the
[7:17] Speaker 1: one that we're both invited to and pull down the
[7:19] Speaker 1: four and then I'll go to the other one and
[7:22] Speaker 1: leave early and then meet him.
[7:24] Speaker 3: I see, I see.
[7:24] Speaker 1: That's kind of how I know.
[7:26] Speaker 2: We're definitely in that phase of like showers and babies
[7:30] Speaker 2: and birthdays and all the things. Yeah, it's fun, It
[7:34] Speaker 2: is fun. But yeah, So we had a pretty chill weekend.
[7:37] Speaker 2: On Saturday night though we did after we clean and organize.
[7:42] Speaker 2: Marla and Taylor came over when we played games and
[7:44] Speaker 2: it was so fun and we were like, wow, you know,
[7:47] Speaker 2: you've really got to take advantage of these moments because
[7:50] Speaker 2: there we are entering this new season of life where
[7:52] Speaker 2: like you never know if someone's gonna have a baby.
[7:54] Speaker 3: Or you know, like just these moments of being able.
[7:57] Speaker 2: To garden and or her food and just lets not
[8:02] Speaker 2: have any responsibility sleep in the next day.
[8:05] Speaker 3: You know, it goes quick.
[8:07] Speaker 1: It does go quick.
[8:08] Speaker 2: So trying to just embrace those moments with our friends
[8:11] Speaker 2: of the friends who want the children.
[8:18] Speaker 1: We started sleeping without without white noise. Why because it's
[8:22] Speaker 1: like bad. It like interrupts your rem cycle. Oh my gosh,
[8:26] Speaker 1: And honestly, I think we're sleeping better.
[8:28] Speaker 3: The silence interrupts my rim cycle.
[8:31] Speaker 1: Well, we uh turn the TV. We put the TV
[8:33] Speaker 1: on a timer so we're like, okay, we're ready to
[8:35] Speaker 1: go to bed. We put the TV on for thirty
[8:37] Speaker 1: minutes so we have that to fall asleep, and then
[8:40] Speaker 1: it turns off and then we just have silence the
[8:42] Speaker 1: rest of the night. Whoa, Yeah, we have our.
[8:48] Speaker 2: What's it called our air pure fire makes noise. Oh,
[8:51] Speaker 2: but I also have a white noise machine on.
[8:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, we have like the full white noise. It's like
[8:56] Speaker 1: louder than an alarm clock.
[8:58] Speaker 3: But if people have slept with a fan all or
[9:00] Speaker 3: like air conditioning on their whole life, it's just so
[9:03] Speaker 3: row interrupting their rent sleep.
[9:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like by six minutes or something. It does.
[9:08] Speaker 3: I don't know where. Did you just saw that on
[9:10] Speaker 3: an Instagram? Real?
[9:11] Speaker 1: No, it was a morning hack on the morning show.
[9:14] Speaker 2: There's been morning hacks debunked all through.
[9:17] Speaker 1: Life, but I'm telling you living proof of it. I
[9:19] Speaker 1: actually think we're sleeping better, But.
[9:21] Speaker 2: You think you're sleeping better every time you try something new.
[9:26] Speaker 3: That's true.
[9:27] Speaker 1: That is true.
[9:28] Speaker 2: You think you slept you sleep better with mouth tape,
[9:31] Speaker 2: But I find.
[9:32] Speaker 1: So much better with mouth tape. No, you're not. You
[9:33] Speaker 1: didn't give it, but I checked.
[9:35] Speaker 3: Through my nose. I don't breathe in my mouth, So you.
[9:37] Speaker 1: Need to get a nose tape too. That makes your
[9:40] Speaker 1: nose bigger. It makes your nostrils bigger. Want my nose bigger,
[9:43] Speaker 1: not forever. It's temporary. It's like you put it on
[9:47] Speaker 1: and it opens up your nostrils.
[9:49] Speaker 2: Does it not stretch it into being making your nose bigger.
[9:52] Speaker 2: If you're doing that every single night, every single night,
[9:55] Speaker 2: it's his nose getting bigger.
[9:56] Speaker 3: No, I would start documenting that. How if you stretch
[10:01] Speaker 3: for eight hours. If you do something for eight.
[10:04] Speaker 1: Hours, not much. It's not like it's opening it so
[10:07] Speaker 1: much wider. It's like a little bit, A.
[10:09] Speaker 3: Little bit's too much in terms of making my nose bigger.
[10:12] Speaker 1: I don't want people would use them if it made
[10:13] Speaker 1: their nose bigger.
[10:15] Speaker 3: There's no studies on it yet that I can't.
[10:19] Speaker 1: I cannot confirm or deny.
[10:22] Speaker 3: Everything I sleep.
[10:23] Speaker 2: I breathe through my nose, so I don't feel like
[10:25] Speaker 2: I'm not getting RESTful sleep because I'm not breathing.
[10:28] Speaker 3: Right, that's my mouth is closed.
[10:31] Speaker 1: With your mouth open, wide open, So.
[10:33] Speaker 3: This is your mouth tape is the game changer changing,
[10:37] Speaker 3: But for me, I don't I have clear pathways.
[10:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is it's a big change. Like sleeping
[10:46] Speaker 1: in silence is like so crazy. I hear Sunny in
[10:50] Speaker 1: her crate every like if she gets up to shake
[10:52] Speaker 1: a little bit, and then.
[10:54] Speaker 3: That doesn't interrupt your room cycle.
[10:57] Speaker 1: It's hard to say. It's a give and take.
[11:00] Speaker 3: That feels like a morning hack.
[11:03] Speaker 1: No, we're liking it. We're liking it. We're liking it.
[11:07] Speaker 2: They're telling me that sleeping through the night with white
[11:10] Speaker 2: noise it's more disruptive than hearing Yeah, Sony's shaking her.
[11:14] Speaker 1: Because I don't hear her every time. I'm saying, there's
[11:16] Speaker 1: the occasional night where I will hear her or i'll
[11:18] Speaker 1: hear him, like go to the bathroom. But like i'd say,
[11:20] Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, I'm sleeping through the whole,
[11:24] Speaker 1: like I'm getting remp from start to finish.
[11:28] Speaker 3: When did you start this?
[11:29] Speaker 1: Probably last what's today? Monday? Probably Tuesday? Last week? Okay,
[11:35] Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday.
[11:36] Speaker 3: Let's check in and three weeks check in on me, baby,
[11:42] Speaker 3: doing a check in, check in on me.
[11:45] Speaker 2: Something really devastating happened last week and we lost Eric
[11:49] Speaker 2: Dane to his battle with als and I I just
[11:54] Speaker 2: can't It happened so fast and it was probably not
[11:59] Speaker 2: fast for him. And I keep thinking about that because
[12:01] Speaker 2: people keep saying it happened so fast because he I
[12:03] Speaker 2: guess announced his diagnosis less it was like less than
[12:06] Speaker 2: a year ago.
[12:08] Speaker 3: And I keep thinking about how like.
[12:13] Speaker 2: We watched this person who is this like strong, like
[12:19] Speaker 2: like character on Grey's Anatomy and then you know he
[12:22] Speaker 2: was just this like almost like a Greek god, you know,
[12:26] Speaker 2: and watching him go through that, it was just devastating.
[12:29] Speaker 2: And I just watching all the Gray's Anatomy, seeing all.
[12:32] Speaker 1: The posts, the memes. It's so crazy when you think about,
[12:36] Speaker 1: like even with Catherine O'Hara, like they have these such
[12:42] Speaker 1: iconic roles that like they will live forever in these roles,
[12:47] Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, it's so crazy to
[12:50] Speaker 1: think about, but.
[12:50] Speaker 2: It's also it is crazy to think about, but it's
[12:53] Speaker 2: also such a gift. I was thinking about that for
[12:55] Speaker 2: like his his loved ones and his friends, that.
[12:58] Speaker 1: They if they miss him, they can like go see.
[13:00] Speaker 3: Him and be this. Especially Mark Sloan.
[13:04] Speaker 2: I know he was in euphoria, but I don't think
[13:06] Speaker 2: his character was like a good guy. So but I
[13:08] Speaker 2: was thinking about, like Gray's Anatomy, Mark Sloan had this
[13:12] Speaker 2: like character arc and he came in and everyone was
[13:14] Speaker 2: like who is this and by the end you loved
[13:16] Speaker 2: him and it's so special. It's also with Catherine O'Hara,
[13:20] Speaker 2: these iconic roles and getting to like go back and
[13:23] Speaker 2: watch him.
[13:24] Speaker 3: Be so alive. Yeah, is really really cool gift. But
[13:28] Speaker 3: rest in peace, Eric Dane.
[13:30] Speaker 1: We had that one hit. Between that and Punch the
[13:33] Speaker 1: Monkey this weekend, I found myself being just like very emotional.
[13:39] Speaker 1: I also think I might be getting my period soon,
[13:41] Speaker 1: but I was very emotional all weekend.
[13:44] Speaker 2: Punch the Monkey hit me so hard. I was watching
[13:49] Speaker 2: the video and then I was telling Haley about it,
[13:51] Speaker 2: and she didn't know anything about it. So I was
[13:53] Speaker 2: showing her videos, and then she kept saying, I just
[13:56] Speaker 2: feel so sorry for him because he knows he's like
[13:59] Speaker 2: an out.
[14:00] Speaker 3: She kept making like a comment like that.
[14:02] Speaker 2: And it made me cry, and I did it three
[14:04] Speaker 2: nights in a row, and she kept reaffirming and he
[14:08] Speaker 2: knows that he's being rejected, and I was like stop, can't.
[14:13] Speaker 1: I could not stop watching these videos. And I'm telling you,
[14:16] Speaker 1: I've probably seen the same videos five hundred times. And yet,
[14:20] Speaker 1: like when I watch him cuddle, like the close up
[14:23] Speaker 1: videos of him cuddling, the stuff he send me down
[14:27] Speaker 1: such like a spiral.
[14:29] Speaker 2: I guess he's found a monkey that loves Simon is
[14:31] Speaker 2: protecting him. Yeah, And all the comments are like yeah,
[14:34] Speaker 2: only because he's famous now, and I'm like, yeah, there,
[14:40] Speaker 2: they were really smart animals.
[14:42] Speaker 3: I do wonder if they.
[14:43] Speaker 1: Can sit there way that he knows he's like globally
[14:47] Speaker 1: getting glable.
[14:48] Speaker 3: Someone said they were giving Cynthia and Ariana the new
[14:52] Speaker 3: Monkey's like overly protective and like guarding everything. But I'm
[14:57] Speaker 3: just I need it.
[14:58] Speaker 2: I hope he's a good friend or she's a good
[15:00] Speaker 2: friend to punch because he needs that.
[15:03] Speaker 3: He does. It's been hard to start for him. The
[15:05] Speaker 3: video of.
[15:06] Speaker 1: Him grabbing the arm of this stuff to cut on
[15:08] Speaker 1: him literally makes me cry every time I see it.
[15:12] Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I don't know what emotional state I'm
[15:15] Speaker 1: in right now. We're watching these videos over and over
[15:18] Speaker 1: and over again, like they bring me such sadness, but
[15:21] Speaker 1: they bring me such comfort at the same time, Like
[15:24] Speaker 1: what does that say about me?
[15:25] Speaker 2: I don't know because I can only watch so much
[15:27] Speaker 2: before I have to, like let my brain.
[15:29] Speaker 1: Rest from the sad day On Saturday, I didn't stop.
[15:34] Speaker 1: My entire feed was punch the monkey.
[15:37] Speaker 3: It's devastating. I'm also seeing what I think is AI
[15:41] Speaker 3: stuff now, so now I can't really tell if the
[15:43] Speaker 3: difference once AI or what's real. But it's all really sad.
[15:48] Speaker 1: Rob and I were like, how do we get in
[15:50] Speaker 1: his own like cage to be in where he like
[15:53] Speaker 1: has his own freedom in his own space, which is
[15:55] Speaker 1: like him and his stuffy But.
[15:57] Speaker 3: I guess that interrupts him learning to be like you.
[16:00] Speaker 1: Some people just don't learn how to acclimate.
[16:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how it works with I know
[16:06] Speaker 2: that's with people, but we're talking animals, so I think
[16:09] Speaker 2: that they they need him to be able to socialize
[16:12] Speaker 2: and be around other monkeys. But did you see the
[16:17] Speaker 2: zoo keeper that comes in and he's crown?
[16:21] Speaker 1: I can't.
[16:22] Speaker 3: Oh, it's so sad.
[16:24] Speaker 1: It just relates to people more, I think, and I
[16:28] Speaker 1: understand as an outsider.
[16:30] Speaker 2: Oh my god, how are you an outsider? How do
[16:34] Speaker 2: you consider yourself an outsider?
[16:36] Speaker 1: I don't know. I do to beat my own drum. Yeah,
[16:38] Speaker 1: you do do that like punch?
[16:42] Speaker 3: Did you watch Traders? We'll get to that later.
[16:47] Speaker 2: I did start Love is Blind, but I'm at the
[16:49] Speaker 2: part now where everyone's still decent.
[16:55] Speaker 3: It downhill? No, I'm in. I'm in Mexico, okay.
[16:58] Speaker 2: I think the last the last like Mexico episode does okay,
[17:02] Speaker 2: but I know things go dark.
[17:04] Speaker 1: I'm not there yet either. I just got back. I
[17:06] Speaker 1: just got into like the real world.
[17:08] Speaker 3: What do you think about everyone?
[17:12] Speaker 1: I have lots of thoughts. I don't know a lot
[17:14] Speaker 1: of them by name. I know me neither, So it's
[17:17] Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be tough to recap. But I
[17:19] Speaker 1: also need to understand why there is one couple that
[17:23] Speaker 1: went to Malibu and all the other couples went to Mexico.
[17:26] Speaker 2: So I was thinking maybe I had to do something
[17:28] Speaker 2: with getting a passport or something like maybe they didn't
[17:30] Speaker 2: have a passport.
[17:31] Speaker 1: So I chatchiputeed it okay, and it said that, uh,
[17:35] Speaker 1: it was not a passport issue, because I had the
[17:37] Speaker 1: same thought. Oh, that production only had budget to send
[17:40] Speaker 1: six couples to Mexico and there were seven that got
[17:43] Speaker 1: engaged this season, and I'm like, why does it seem right?
[17:47] Speaker 4: I do feel like the couple that went to Malibu though,
[17:50] Speaker 4: they're more serious, and I feel like maybe they were
[17:52] Speaker 4: just like, let's not put them in the drama of everything,
[17:54] Speaker 4: because they have an actual chance of staying together, so
[17:58] Speaker 4: let's give them their own little getaway.
[18:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of felt that way.
[18:02] Speaker 1: It was weird, and also like that they didn't address it.
[18:04] Speaker 1: I'm like, hello, Nick Vanessa, can someone explain to me
[18:06] Speaker 1: why this couple is in Malibu and everybody else is
[18:09] Speaker 1: in Mexico.
[18:09] Speaker 3: I liked my theory more about the passport.
[18:11] Speaker 2: I feel weird that it's a budget they have, Like
[18:13] Speaker 2: every they have all these songs that they're paying for
[18:16] Speaker 2: on the show.
[18:16] Speaker 3: They don't budget.
[18:17] Speaker 1: Know if anybody out there works for Love is Blind,
[18:19] Speaker 1: please let us know, because it was really bothering me.
[18:24] Speaker 2: Okay, I wanted to talk about an update from the
[18:26] Speaker 2: Valentine's Day post of last week. We have an update,
[18:30] Speaker 2: but we're going to take a break and we'll talk
[18:32] Speaker 2: about that.
[18:49] Speaker 3: We're back.
[18:50] Speaker 5: Oh, thanks, So So, we had a little discussion last
[18:56] Speaker 5: week about one of our scrubbers who had posted in
[19:01] Speaker 5: the Facebook group that she didn't get anything from her
[19:03] Speaker 5: significant other.
[19:04] Speaker 2: Of two years, didn't get flowered, basically didn't get acknowledged
[19:09] Speaker 2: with any gifts or anything on Valentine's Day. So Tanya
[19:12] Speaker 2: and I had opposite takes and stances on it, but
[19:16] Speaker 2: we got an update from the scrubber herself, Mark, do
[19:22] Speaker 2: you do?
[19:23] Speaker 3: Are you caught up on this drama?
[19:24] Speaker 6: So what was the take?
[19:26] Speaker 1: So basically the bottom line, like net net net, she
[19:32] Speaker 1: did not get anything on Valentine's Day. She got him
[19:35] Speaker 1: a basket she made him, or they made dinner together,
[19:38] Speaker 1: but the ingredients. He didn't give her a card, he
[19:41] Speaker 1: didn't give her flowers or really acknowledged the day.
[19:43] Speaker 6: What were the angles you Becca and Easton had.
[19:46] Speaker 1: Back in Easton were aligned. They said, it's absolutely bare
[19:50] Speaker 1: minimum to ask for, just like a Carter acknowledgment on
[19:52] Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. I said, you need to communicate your needs
[19:56] Speaker 1: to your partner and if he's showing up for you
[19:58] Speaker 1: in your regular, every day life. Guys are dumb and
[20:02] Speaker 1: sometimes Valentine's Day goes over their head and maybe he's
[20:05] Speaker 1: very embarrassed that he didn't do anything on Valentine's Day.
[20:08] Speaker 2: The bare minimum is showing up for your partner every
[20:11] Speaker 2: other day of the year.
[20:12] Speaker 3: So that's what I argument. I was like, Oh, wait,
[20:14] Speaker 3: so you don't get.
[20:15] Speaker 2: A card because someone shows up for you every other
[20:18] Speaker 2: day of the year.
[20:18] Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't know they were together for two years, so.
[20:20] Speaker 3: That dicer, did I think?
[20:21] Speaker 1: I think that you said I didn't know in the beginning,
[20:24] Speaker 1: and so that threw me a little bit because after
[20:28] Speaker 1: one mistake of one Valentine's Day, you would think he
[20:32] Speaker 1: would pick up on that.
[20:34] Speaker 2: And a lot of the scrubbers advice on the Facebook
[20:36] Speaker 2: posts were like, you need to communicate because you're just
[20:38] Speaker 2: setting him up for failure if you don't communicate, And I'm.
[20:40] Speaker 3: Like, I get that.
[20:41] Speaker 2: If she had expectations of wanting to go to a
[20:44] Speaker 2: specific restaurant or I want to be woken up with
[20:47] Speaker 2: breakfast in bed, that's something you have to communicate. Communicating
[20:51] Speaker 2: that you need acknowledgment on a holiday that's so in
[20:54] Speaker 2: our face that there's no way it can.
[20:56] Speaker 3: Go over your head.
[20:56] Speaker 1: Because now I know, like guys are dumb.
[20:59] Speaker 3: We got it. We got to set the bar higher.
[21:01] Speaker 3: I'm just telling you we have to.
[21:03] Speaker 6: I think bare minimum when he's doing If you can't
[21:05] Speaker 6: do the bare minimum for Valentine's Day when you're dating,
[21:08] Speaker 6: what's gonna happen for your birthdays, your anniversaries? Like I
[21:11] Speaker 6: feel like it's I think it's a problem. I think
[21:13] Speaker 6: it's a concern. I'll say that it's a concern, not unfixable.
[21:17] Speaker 1: I was just trying to have our girls back.
[21:20] Speaker 3: I have a lot of heat, and I think you're
[21:22] Speaker 3: having the guys back. I don't think you're having the girls. No.
[21:25] Speaker 1: I wanted her to not feel so bad. I feel
[21:27] Speaker 1: like she felt so bad, and I just wanted her
[21:29] Speaker 1: to know, like, don't feel so bad. This isn't the
[21:32] Speaker 1: end all be all, Like there's hope. I wanted to
[21:35] Speaker 1: give her some hope.
[21:36] Speaker 2: Well, my thought process was like, Okay, this is a
[21:38] Speaker 2: conversation they need to have, and she now she can communicate, like, hey,
[21:43] Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever communicated, but I'd.
[21:45] Speaker 3: Like to be acknowledged. I didn't know I needed to
[21:47] Speaker 3: communicate this, but I'd like to be acknowledgable on holidays.
[21:50] Speaker 1: So where do we stand?
[21:53] Speaker 3: So the follow up is that.
[21:58] Speaker 2: She says, the first year we were together, we didn't
[22:01] Speaker 2: do anything, and last year I was the one who
[22:04] Speaker 2: made the dinner reservations at the restaurant. He shows up
[22:07] Speaker 2: for me in so many other ways, so I was
[22:09] Speaker 2: very confused about this holiday. My birthday was two weeks ago,
[22:12] Speaker 2: and he got me flowers the Monday of my birthday
[22:15] Speaker 2: week to kick off the week, and took me to
[22:16] Speaker 2: dinner and got me a gift, which for me, it's
[22:18] Speaker 2: totally not about the money part of it. I just
[22:21] Speaker 2: wanted to be thought about, especially when it feels like
[22:23] Speaker 2: everyone else in the world, even the ones with crappy
[22:25] Speaker 2: boyfriends and husbands, are being spoiled.
[22:27] Speaker 3: That's the thing. Some of the worst of the worst
[22:30] Speaker 3: will still show.
[22:30] Speaker 1: But this is It's an interesting point because she's seeing
[22:33] Speaker 1: everything on Instagram and that again comparison is a thief
[22:36] Speaker 1: of joy antenue one.
[22:37] Speaker 2: He spoils me at Christmas, but he did not grow
[22:39] Speaker 2: up coming from a lot holidays and birthdays weren't a
[22:42] Speaker 2: big deal at all in his childhood home, but since
[22:44] Speaker 2: spending Christmas and Birthdays with my family, he's seen how
[22:47] Speaker 2: important those are for me. We did have a conversation
[22:49] Speaker 2: about it after I posted, because I felt empowered, and
[22:52] Speaker 2: he said it didn't cross his mind and that he
[22:54] Speaker 2: will do better next year.
[22:55] Speaker 3: See, don't get me wrong, that's.
[22:58] Speaker 1: A what See okay, it's okay, come on.
[23:01] Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong.
[23:02] Speaker 2: He was with me all weekend, verbally told me Happy
[23:05] Speaker 2: Valentine's Day and cooked dinner with me. But I was
[23:07] Speaker 2: expecting more, Although I communicated, expectations lead to disappointment, which
[23:12] Speaker 2: is what happened. So I'm hopeful that next year we'll
[23:15] Speaker 2: be on the same page. Thank you for she said,
[23:17] Speaker 2: thank you for reaching out to me. I'm literally freaking out.
[23:19] Speaker 2: My sister and I are obsessed with the podcast. It's
[23:21] Speaker 2: gotten us through a lot of hard stuff the past
[23:22] Speaker 2: few years. We love you guys, and then she said
[23:25] Speaker 2: more info after listening she listened.
[23:26] Speaker 3: To the episode, She said, I feel validated by Becca.
[23:30] Speaker 3: The bar shouldn't be on the ground.
[23:32] Speaker 2: It's our third Valentine's Day together, second officially dating. I
[23:36] Speaker 2: don't think he felt bad or embarrassed when he got
[23:38] Speaker 2: his gift.
[23:39] Speaker 3: He was definitely appreciative, but wasn't outwardly embarrassed. He hasn't
[23:43] Speaker 3: made up for it yet.
[23:48] Speaker 1: My bad. I'll stand on it. I don't even know
[23:54] Speaker 1: what this means charge it.
[23:58] Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a good it's a good update.
[24:00] Speaker 2: I'm glad she felt empowered, regardless of like where she
[24:03] Speaker 2: felt empowered from. I'm glad that she said something because
[24:06] Speaker 2: at this point now she can see like he knows
[24:09] Speaker 2: let's see how he doesn't. He can't say, oh, I
[24:11] Speaker 2: didn't know that anymore.
[24:14] Speaker 1: I just think express like what do they say? Uh,
[24:18] Speaker 1: disappointment comes from unexpressed expectations, expectations. So it's like I
[24:24] Speaker 1: did this a lot in our early days with Robbie,
[24:27] Speaker 1: Like I would just like have these high I mean,
[24:29] Speaker 1: my expectations were, you know, insanely high, and I would
[24:33] Speaker 1: never communicate them to him, and he's like, babe, I
[24:36] Speaker 1: can't read your mind, Like I have no idea. It
[24:38] Speaker 1: wasn't Valentine's Day, but it was other things, and I
[24:41] Speaker 1: was like, you know what, You're right, So now I'm
[24:43] Speaker 1: just super proactive about communicating my expectations.
[24:47] Speaker 2: Right, and like I said, I think when you have
[24:50] Speaker 2: very specific expectations as you did, those are things you
[24:53] Speaker 2: have to communicate because you don't have to read someone's mind.
[24:55] Speaker 2: But you don't have to read someone's mind to want
[24:57] Speaker 2: to be.
[24:57] Speaker 1: And I'd be like, what do you mean, I don't
[24:59] Speaker 1: expect this. I write you a note every single day
[25:02] Speaker 1: of my life, Like you know what I mean? Like,
[25:05] Speaker 1: get on my level.
[25:07] Speaker 3: He thinks that you just want to do that, right,
[25:09] Speaker 3: which I do, Which I do.
[25:10] Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know, this is the level at
[25:12] Speaker 1: which I operate.
[25:14] Speaker 3: Well, it's a high level. It's a high level.
[25:17] Speaker 1: Meet me there, disappear.
[25:18] Speaker 3: Did you watch the Winter Olympics? Have you been keeping
[25:21] Speaker 3: up at all?
[25:23] Speaker 1: So we have okay, no, a little bit of a
[25:26] Speaker 1: trade off if it's unseen bits for Love Island. I'll
[25:29] Speaker 1: let him watch the Olympics. Wow. And on his birthday
[25:34] Speaker 1: I let him Wow.
[25:35] Speaker 3: She is generous, folks.
[25:38] Speaker 1: I'm nothing if not generous.
[25:39] Speaker 2: Well, we haven't been watching a lot of things, but
[25:41] Speaker 2: we watched the ice skating, which was really exciting.
[25:45] Speaker 3: You know who won, Alyssa lou Yes, yeah, she's so.
[25:48] Speaker 3: I watched.
[25:48] Speaker 1: I did like the ice skating. I love so I
[25:51] Speaker 1: think it's leu.
[25:52] Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, oh ALYSSI leu. Wow. Has everyone been
[25:57] Speaker 3: saying it wrong or am I just hearing it wrong?
[25:59] Speaker 6: I have audio of her saying it herself.
[26:01] Speaker 3: So she's so cute.
[26:04] Speaker 2: And I love her mentality because when I first watched her,
[26:09] Speaker 2: the Tara Lepinske and Johnny Ware were talking about how
[26:12] Speaker 2: she just like has no expectation talk about expectations.
[26:17] Speaker 3: She just was like there to skate. She just loves skating.
[26:21] Speaker 1: What I have a side note, do not let me
[26:23] Speaker 1: forget Tara Lepinskey. I continue.
[26:25] Speaker 2: So we watching her, I was like, she looks I
[26:30] Speaker 2: felt like I was watching everyone skate and you could
[26:32] Speaker 2: see the stress on their face or like they were
[26:35] Speaker 2: thinking about if they were going to hit their next
[26:37] Speaker 2: jump whatever. Her face was so relaxed and just seemed
[26:40] Speaker 2: like she was having the best time. And I also
[26:42] Speaker 2: love that she was kind of like I'm not gonna
[26:44] Speaker 2: starve myself to be a specific body, Like I'm just
[26:48] Speaker 2: I'm just doing what I love and I'm not going
[26:49] Speaker 2: to like change myself to fit into this mold.
[26:52] Speaker 1: And she won, and she won, and I feel like
[26:54] Speaker 1: it's such.
[26:54] Speaker 2: A testament of like something that women specifically need because
[26:59] Speaker 2: there's this like box, especially in Olympic sports. I feel
[27:02] Speaker 2: like you're supposed to fit into this mold and look
[27:04] Speaker 2: a certain way and act a certain way. And she
[27:06] Speaker 2: was just like, I'm just doing something I love and
[27:09] Speaker 2: if I win, amazing.
[27:10] Speaker 3: If I don't win, amazing.
[27:12] Speaker 1: That reminds me of Shoot. Her name is escaping me now,
[27:17] Speaker 1: the woman that won the gold in Shoot, old Mom.
[27:22] Speaker 1: I texted her to.
[27:23] Speaker 3: Myself, Elena Myers.
[27:25] Speaker 1: Yes, Becca, Yes, what did she win the golden?
[27:30] Speaker 3: She won in the bob sledding?
[27:33] Speaker 1: Thank you? So after she won, she thanked like her
[27:38] Speaker 1: family opposition, she thinks her kids and her husband, and
[27:40] Speaker 1: then she thanked her nannies. And I was like, it's
[27:44] Speaker 1: so interesting to me that women feel like they need to,
[27:47] Speaker 1: like they they want to thank the people that are
[27:51] Speaker 1: helping them take care of their kids that they can
[27:53] Speaker 1: spend the time training and doing all these things. Like
[27:56] Speaker 1: there are many men.
[27:58] Speaker 3: That also have nana also nannies that.
[28:00] Speaker 1: Have never once ever, ever ever thanked them in any
[28:04] Speaker 1: sort of capacity. And like you were saying, Halsey did
[28:07] Speaker 1: the same thing during like one of her shows, thanked
[28:09] Speaker 1: her sider, her nanny and it just like really it
[28:13] Speaker 1: like it was an interesting thing because Robbie actually picked
[28:17] Speaker 1: up on it. He was like, wow, like thanking her
[28:20] Speaker 1: nannies because she wouldn't be able to be as good
[28:22] Speaker 1: and do this without having help. And the fact that
[28:24] Speaker 1: she like acknowledges that, you know. Yeah, like it's such
[28:27] Speaker 1: a thing like women take it upon even though it's
[28:30] Speaker 1: she has a husband and shared responsibility, but women take
[28:33] Speaker 1: it on themselves, you know what I mean.
[28:35] Speaker 3: M hm. She's also the oldest Winter Olympian to wing
[28:38] Speaker 3: gold in an individual event at forty one years old.
[28:41] Speaker 1: Breaking the mold.
[28:42] Speaker 3: Breaking the mold.
[28:43] Speaker 1: That's what we did. We love to see it. Actually
[28:47] Speaker 1: we were doing We were watching ice skating one night
[28:49] Speaker 1: and Robbie was like, I think we could do this.
[28:51] Speaker 1: I was like, because you have really strong legs. It's like, think.
[29:00] Speaker 3: You can do this? Please?
[29:02] Speaker 1: I was like, you're joking.
[29:04] Speaker 3: I need y'all to go to an ice rin.
[29:06] Speaker 1: We've ice skated before. We're pretty good.
[29:09] Speaker 3: But you know, Hailey's mom is an ice skating choreographer.
[29:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she could.
[29:15] Speaker 3: We did just do like a YouTube video of y'all
[29:17] Speaker 3: learning a pair skating routine.
[29:19] Speaker 1: I was like, you're crazy if you think there's And
[29:21] Speaker 1: I'm like, also the way that they just toss these
[29:25] Speaker 1: blades in the air, I'm like you I could kick
[29:28] Speaker 1: an eye out with those things. Like very dangerous yeah yeah,
[29:32] Speaker 1: not just like throwing me around.
[29:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a dangerous weaponry. Yeah, I did ask. I
[29:39] Speaker 3: was asking Haley's mom.
[29:41] Speaker 2: I was like, you know when the pair skaters, when
[29:45] Speaker 2: the woman will stand on the man's legs with her blades.
[29:48] Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, how they must have padding.
[29:51] Speaker 3: They don't. She said, it's just where. It's the specific
[29:53] Speaker 3: location where they.
[29:55] Speaker 1: Freeze, if when they hold their blades, like when they're
[29:57] Speaker 1: like doing those fans and I'm like, are they wearing glove?
[30:00] Speaker 1: I was like, what are they not getting slit their hands?
[30:02] Speaker 1: Like this is crazy?
[30:04] Speaker 3: Safe to say, Tania and I will not be entering
[30:07] Speaker 3: the Winter Olympics anytime soon.
[30:09] Speaker 1: Well, okay, so because of Traders, I have like Terre
[30:13] Speaker 1: Lipinski and is it Johnny where wire we're we're We're
[30:17] Speaker 1: I see their videos all the time, and so I
[30:20] Speaker 1: was like clicking around just like see their profiles because
[30:23] Speaker 1: I watched Traders and guess who follows me on Instagram? Tara, Tara,
[30:31] Speaker 1: that's an Olympian. An Olympic gold medal skater follows me
[30:37] Speaker 1: on Instagram, Like what, I.
[30:40] Speaker 3: Wonder if you could see when she followed you.
[30:43] Speaker 1: I don't know, but I saw it said follow back,
[30:45] Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh my gosh. Like I
[30:47] Speaker 1: was with Sebby and we were both freaking out because
[30:50] Speaker 1: we watched Traders. I was like, oh my.
[30:52] Speaker 3: Gosh, he follow her back, not like her Olympian like run,
[30:56] Speaker 3: but like we watched Traders.
[30:58] Speaker 1: He was like, follow her back. I was like, okay, back,
[31:01] Speaker 1: So now I'm following her too.
[31:02] Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay.
[31:02] Speaker 1: So now the podcaternet friendship with Tara Lepinsky.
[31:06] Speaker 3: She'd be a great podcast.
[31:07] Speaker 1: She'd be a great podcast guest. Now that we're internet friends.
[31:11] Speaker 2: We got so into the skating that we were going
[31:14] Speaker 2: back and watching Tara Lepinski's Olympian performances.
[31:18] Speaker 3: She was like sixteen, she was fifteen. She was so tiny.
[31:24] Speaker 3: It was crazy watching.
[31:26] Speaker 1: Really excellent skater, really horrible at.
[31:29] Speaker 3: Traders, but still in the game.
[31:32] Speaker 1: Yet because I think she's so bad, They're like, you
[31:37] Speaker 1: got to keep them in the game to like you
[31:39] Speaker 1: know what I mean, people who don't know what's going on.
[31:41] Speaker 3: It's good. What did you think about Trader? Where are
[31:44] Speaker 3: you at?
[31:44] Speaker 2: I think they're on to Rob. I think Rob might go.
[31:47] Speaker 2: I think that I think the Faithfuls might win.
[31:49] Speaker 1: So I read this theory because I was just like,
[31:53] Speaker 1: Maura Higgins is so obsessed with Rob, Like the fact
[31:56] Speaker 1: that she doesn't even sniff him out at all is
[31:58] Speaker 1: like so crazy mm hmm. But then I read this
[32:01] Speaker 1: theory that says Maura knows Rob is a trader, she's
[32:05] Speaker 1: keeping him close so that they can get to the end,
[32:09] Speaker 1: and then she's gonna like banish him, yeah, and win
[32:13] Speaker 1: the whole thing. I hope so, and she's been so
[32:18] Speaker 1: digmatized it's crazy. Yeah, that's gonna be I'm gonna be
[32:22] Speaker 1: really sad.
[32:23] Speaker 3: Like when they when they finally started going, But why
[32:27] Speaker 3: did Candace say his name? I'm like, fine, somebody that
[32:31] Speaker 3: was Tara. Yeah, She's like, why would Candace have said
[32:36] Speaker 3: his name twice? I'm like, okay, let's keep it going.
[32:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a fun season though.
[32:44] Speaker 1: It's been a very fun season.
[32:46] Speaker 2: And I felt bad for Natalie because they totally just
[32:50] Speaker 2: like screwed her.
[32:52] Speaker 1: I feel sad for Natalie when she said, like, I'm
[32:55] Speaker 1: usually like an outcast and I don't get a look.
[32:57] Speaker 1: She said something about like how she doesn't really get
[32:59] Speaker 1: along with people or something and that she really like
[33:02] Speaker 1: let her guard down to like open up to them
[33:04] Speaker 1: and then she got screwed. I would like got really emotional.
[33:06] Speaker 3: I know.
[33:07] Speaker 2: That's the thing about this show is that it is
[33:09] Speaker 2: a game, and it's like you're you don't you're. The
[33:11] Speaker 2: whole point is you're not supposed to trust anybody or
[33:13] Speaker 2: let your guard.
[33:14] Speaker 1: I'm trusting everybody, know, like they trust way too much.
[33:18] Speaker 2: If you ever get to go on there, you have
[33:20] Speaker 2: to remember you cannot let your guard down.
[33:23] Speaker 1: No, Like this whole housewives don't turn on each other
[33:25] Speaker 1: thing is the dumbest rule because of like why would
[33:29] Speaker 1: you just trust a housewife because she's a housewife.
[33:31] Speaker 6: I know, what are your thoughts on the possibility of
[33:34] Speaker 6: Rob r being the next Bachelor?
[33:36] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I would love it. The girls would
[33:39] Speaker 3: be so.
[33:41] Speaker 1: It'd be bad.
[33:42] Speaker 3: It'd be very it would be like carnage.
[33:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be very bad.
[33:46] Speaker 2: It would be the best season maybe of all time,
[33:49] Speaker 2: but like devastating because the girls would just be traumatized.
[33:56] Speaker 3: Him just not ending up with someone just being like
[33:58] Speaker 3: I don't like any of y'all. I like snakes. Yeah,
[34:04] Speaker 3: he I think he has a girlfriend though he.
[34:06] Speaker 1: Does wah, but I don't think that's his girlfriend.
[34:10] Speaker 2: He's hanging out with someone. I'm sure if the Bachelor
[34:12] Speaker 2: opportunity came, he would take it.
[34:14] Speaker 1: That would be an If the Bachelor knew what was right,
[34:18] Speaker 1: they would go after him.
[34:19] Speaker 6: I mean, these rumors are out there, they come from somewhere, right.
[34:22] Speaker 1: That would be an amazing that one.
[34:24] Speaker 6: Robert Win is the other one. I hear a lot.
[34:27] Speaker 3: That could be good in its own way.
[34:29] Speaker 1: More sweet, innocent, delicate, delicate, Yeah, not as ruthless.
[34:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. If I'm wanting like trashy reality TV, get
[34:37] Speaker 3: me Rob. If I'm wanting a good love story, get
[34:40] Speaker 3: me Robert.
[34:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Robert or Rob.
[34:45] Speaker 3: Unless Robert one hiding something.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Hillary Duff Oh yeah sorry, I was just like, still
[34:53] Speaker 1: on the whole Traders please.
[34:55] Speaker 2: So do you think let's just predict because the finales
[34:58] Speaker 2: this week?
[34:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, faithful traders. I think the I think it's gonna
[35:08] Speaker 1: be the Traders. If not Mark, if not Robin, Eric,
[35:13] Speaker 1: it'll be Rob. It's his game to lose. In my opinion,
[35:16] Speaker 1: I think it's faith really yeah, because I specifically.
[35:21] Speaker 3: How does that work? So like how many people go
[35:24] Speaker 3: home before someone went and.
[35:25] Speaker 1: So it's basically now, whoever gets banished, they're not gonna
[35:29] Speaker 1: say if they're a trader or faithful, So that is
[35:32] Speaker 1: like done, that part of the game is over. So
[35:35] Speaker 1: now basically what's gonna happen is they're gonna what we
[35:39] Speaker 1: saw the previews. They're gonna kill one more person tonight,
[35:43] Speaker 1: remember the person that goes into the thing. And then
[35:46] Speaker 1: basically how it works when I think there's like five
[35:49] Speaker 1: left is they kind of go round and they throw
[35:53] Speaker 1: the red and the green things into the flame. Red
[35:56] Speaker 1: means you're done banishing. Green means you want to banish again.
[35:59] Speaker 1: And I think they the throw until everybody throws red.
[36:02] Speaker 1: So there's usually two people left.
[36:04] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's between two people that could be a
[36:08] Speaker 3: faithful or trader.
[36:09] Speaker 1: It could be a faith or it could be two faithfuls,
[36:11] Speaker 1: it could be two traders. I don't think I've ever
[36:13] Speaker 1: seen two traders, but I don't think i've seen more
[36:16] Speaker 1: than three people win it.
[36:17] Speaker 3: I think.
[36:20] Speaker 2: That Maura might be the one who gets killed because
[36:27] Speaker 2: I think Rob would do it to make them think
[36:30] Speaker 2: like we'll we'll Mara was Rob's like ally if.
[36:34] Speaker 1: It was, so, it's an interesting thought. However, I think
[36:39] Speaker 1: they have to break up Tara and Johnny because that's
[36:41] Speaker 1: two votes. They're going to vote the same no matter what.
[36:43] Speaker 1: You're kind of outnumbered unless you kill one of them.
[36:46] Speaker 1: So one of them has got to go.
[36:47] Speaker 3: I think Tara no. I think Johnny might go.
[36:49] Speaker 1: I think Johnny's gonna go. Okay, love you, Tara Lipinski,
[36:53] Speaker 1: my new friend, but she's just so off that like,
[36:56] Speaker 1: we need, we need, we need the chaos.
[36:58] Speaker 2: Okay, So Johnny goes okay, and then I think Tara
[37:02] Speaker 2: and Maura might win.
[37:04] Speaker 3: You think I'd like it.
[37:06] Speaker 1: I like to see it, you'd like to see it.
[37:08] Speaker 2: I'd like to think that Mara is known this whole
[37:10] Speaker 2: time and is just keeping our enemies close, Sir.
[37:12] Speaker 1: That would be epic. If Moran did that, I'd be
[37:15] Speaker 1: very happy. However, I think it's Rob's game to lose. Okay,
[37:19] Speaker 1: all right, It's very hard to win as a trader.
[37:21] Speaker 1: There's only been like a couple sore and then the
[37:25] Speaker 1: one guy from the UK and yeah, yeah, so it's
[37:29] Speaker 1: really hard to win as a trader because once you
[37:31] Speaker 1: get a little bit of sent on you.
[37:33] Speaker 3: I did not like that and that in the microphone though.
[37:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, once the faithful get a little scent, I.
[37:39] Speaker 3: Know they're on you.
[37:40] Speaker 1: They're on you. Yeah, So we shall see.
[37:43] Speaker 3: We shall see the finale.
[37:45] Speaker 1: The embarrassment of riches of television this week is like
[37:48] Speaker 1: between this finale, Beast Games finale is this week and
[37:52] Speaker 1: Survivor fifty starts this week.
[37:54] Speaker 3: Are you watching Love Story? The Callen Bessett and It's.
[37:57] Speaker 1: My It's on My List? Love Story? And the Tyra
[37:59] Speaker 1: Banks the America's Next Top Model documentary?
[38:03] Speaker 3: That was just like hard to watch? Honestly, you watched it.
[38:05] Speaker 3: I watched the first episode and it's just it the
[38:07] Speaker 3: episode or is it just a documentary? Yeah? I don't know.
[38:11] Speaker 3: I would like to see one that tyro Vicks doesn't produce,
[38:14] Speaker 3: like I want to see the raw.
[38:16] Speaker 1: Did you ever watch America's Next Top Model?
[38:18] Speaker 3: Yeah?
[38:18] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
[38:19] Speaker 3: And it's crazy because like as they're introducing people, you
[38:22] Speaker 3: remember them. Haley and I were like, oh my gosh,
[38:23] Speaker 3: I remember these people, And then I was like, did
[38:25] Speaker 3: I watch every single season? I did?
[38:27] Speaker 1: I was obsessed with that show.
[38:29] Speaker 3: I do want to talk about Hillary Duff's new album okay,
[38:32] Speaker 3: because I have my thoughts, but we'll do it when
[38:35] Speaker 3: we come back.
[38:51] Speaker 6: We're back.
[38:52] Speaker 3: Oh, I was like trying to let the sound brief
[38:54] Speaker 3: for a second. We're back.
[38:58] Speaker 2: So you know, Hillary Duff had two singles that came
[39:02] Speaker 2: out before the album. I was a little I was like,
[39:04] Speaker 2: I like them, but I didn't. I wasn't all in. Yeah,
[39:08] Speaker 2: So when hearing about her album, I was excited to listen,
[39:11] Speaker 2: but not like all in.
[39:13] Speaker 1: You were like, eh, I wasn't it.
[39:14] Speaker 3: I was just like, I am obsessed. It's all I've
[39:19] Speaker 3: listened to since.
[39:20] Speaker 1: I came out, listening to it a lot too.
[39:22] Speaker 3: I specifically two songs have been on repeat for.
[39:26] Speaker 1: Tell me Okay, I'm gonna see if they're the one
[39:28] Speaker 1: same ones that I like as well.
[39:29] Speaker 6: By the way, Easton shared with me his for this
[39:32] Speaker 6: discussion as well.
[39:33] Speaker 3: You know, and I have discussed ours as well.
[39:36] Speaker 1: Hold on, okay, only two because I have three?
[39:43] Speaker 3: Well, there's two that I just go back and forth.
[39:45] Speaker 2: I've listened to the whole album multiple times, but there's
[39:48] Speaker 2: two that like, I'll play on repeat like you do
[39:51] Speaker 2: with songs.
[39:51] Speaker 1: Okay, we don't talk and growing up. Yes, those two
[39:55] Speaker 1: yes swear yes, Okay, So those are my two favorite,
[39:59] Speaker 1: and then my next is Weather for Tennis, and then
[40:02] Speaker 1: Holiday Party. I like Weather rounds out my top four.
[40:05] Speaker 2: Okay, we Don't Talk is so catchy, so catchy. It
[40:11] Speaker 2: sounds similar to the dough Chi song and Somebody that
[40:14] Speaker 2: We Used to Know, which I think is a just
[40:17] Speaker 2: a really catchy hook.
[40:18] Speaker 1: Oh you know. Her husband, Matthew Koma is like, yeah,
[40:22] Speaker 1: I'm might have to do a little research on this,
[40:24] Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure he did Carl Ray Jepson's call
[40:27] Speaker 1: Me Maybe, Oh okay, let me ask chatchy.
[40:30] Speaker 3: So he knows a little thing about petchy.
[40:32] Speaker 1: He knows a little thing about catchy.
[40:34] Speaker 3: So I love We Don't Talk so much. I sing
[40:39] Speaker 3: it all day. If I'm not listening to it, I'm
[40:41] Speaker 3: humming it, I'm singing it.
[40:44] Speaker 1: It's very good.
[40:45] Speaker 3: Hailey loves it.
[40:47] Speaker 1: No, Matthew Coma did not produce Call Me Maybe, so
[40:50] Speaker 1: spoiler alert, I was wrong. But he did work with
[40:53] Speaker 1: Carl Ray Jebson on other songs like this kiss Okay,
[40:58] Speaker 1: but had no production credit on call Maybe, So forget.
[41:02] Speaker 3: I said that, yeah, but it was a good thought.
[41:07] Speaker 1: I like that song though the other Carli Red Jeffson
[41:09] Speaker 1: is on Catchy as well, just not as catchy as
[41:11] Speaker 1: Call Me.
[41:12] Speaker 3: She has a lot of catchy songs. Yeah, that makes sense.
[41:15] Speaker 1: I love I'm with You. I want to go to
[41:16] Speaker 1: her tour when she comes to La. I really want
[41:18] Speaker 1: to know this last time she was in La.
[41:20] Speaker 3: I know she comes back to La on this tour.
[41:25] Speaker 1: It's in a long time.
[41:26] Speaker 3: I think we have time to get tickets.
[41:27] Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she's touring like all of but the year.
[41:32] Speaker 3: So I think Easton shared the same top two.
[41:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, same top two and then he added in one
[41:37] Speaker 6: other one. Do you know what that was? You from
[41:40] Speaker 6: the Honeymoon?
[41:41] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know.
[41:43] Speaker 6: Those are his three favorites.
[41:44] Speaker 2: Okay, well growing Up is is it an interpolation or
[41:50] Speaker 2: is it a sample?
[41:52] Speaker 1: I think it's an interpolation because it's the same exact words,
[41:56] Speaker 1: but it's a different it's a different arrangement.
[41:59] Speaker 3: But it's from the blank twe eighty two song.
[42:01] Speaker 1: Damn it, this is growing on Mamma. Yeah.
[42:07] Speaker 3: I went to listen to it and it was jarring
[42:09] Speaker 3: from her voice and there's this like blank twan eity
[42:12] Speaker 3: two is like really punk.
[42:13] Speaker 1: You know, I even realized it was in her. I
[42:14] Speaker 1: was like, why do I know all the words of
[42:16] Speaker 1: this song?
[42:19] Speaker 2: But I'm obsessed. I love both of those specifically. But
[42:23] Speaker 2: my one of my favorite things was what Matthew Coma
[42:25] Speaker 2: wrote about her album coming out, and he.
[42:29] Speaker 3: Wrote like a long did you read it?
[42:31] Speaker 2: His post about her, and he was just saying, like
[42:34] Speaker 2: her whole career, she's done like what other people wanted
[42:37] Speaker 2: her to do, and this was the first time that
[42:38] Speaker 2: she just wanted to write an album that was like
[42:40] Speaker 2: her truth and like what she had been going through
[42:42] Speaker 2: and like what it was.
[42:43] Speaker 1: So I read this story that was about her and
[42:46] Speaker 1: she was like, I wanted to talk about the real
[42:49] Speaker 1: stuff about Like She's like, I'm a mom and I
[42:52] Speaker 1: have kids. I didn't want this album to be like
[42:54] Speaker 1: I'm so stressed picking up my kids from school and
[42:56] Speaker 1: making them dinner and like that that part of the motherhood.
[42:58] Speaker 1: She was like, I wanted to talk about like all
[43:00] Speaker 1: the other like layers to it and stuff, which is
[43:03] Speaker 1: like the one holiday party where her husband's like cheating
[43:06] Speaker 1: on her and like those insecurities and like you know
[43:09] Speaker 1: what I mean. I was like, that's so deep that
[43:11] Speaker 1: she's like sharing that.
[43:12] Speaker 3: But I just love it because he was basically like she.
[43:17] Speaker 2: I think it's so cool that, of course everyone's always
[43:20] Speaker 2: loved Hillary Duff, Like there's never been a moment, even
[43:22] Speaker 2: when she's.
[43:23] Speaker 1: Our unproblematic queen.
[43:24] Speaker 2: Every Yeah, even when she wasn't really doing anything that
[43:26] Speaker 2: was in the spotlight, people still wanted more from her
[43:30] Speaker 2: since she was on Lizzie MacGuire, Like that's been her
[43:32] Speaker 2: whole life. And she's really interesting in that way because
[43:35] Speaker 2: a lot of people have had that fame and that
[43:38] Speaker 2: attention and then once they stopped doing something, people kind
[43:41] Speaker 2: of forgot about them.
[43:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, and no one's ever forgotten about Hillary Duff.
[43:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder why that is.
[43:46] Speaker 2: But with music, because she hasn't released music in so long,
[43:50] Speaker 2: I'm sure there was so much fear or like thought
[43:52] Speaker 2: process of like what am I doing? No one's gonna
[43:54] Speaker 2: care about me. I haven't released music in so long.
[43:57] Speaker 2: What if people don't show up? And I just love
[44:00] Speaker 2: that everything has sold out to the degree where it's
[44:03] Speaker 2: like we're announcing a world tour, We're doing it all.
[44:06] Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, No people are showing up for her.
[44:08] Speaker 1: She is she really is like the unproblematic queen. Yeah,
[44:11] Speaker 1: the only time I've heard any scuttle around her. Was
[44:14] Speaker 1: this like toxic mom drama?
[44:16] Speaker 6: Right?
[44:17] Speaker 1: And it seems like that kind of just like went away.
[44:20] Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, just like everything on the internet, it comes
[44:23] Speaker 3: and it goes.
[44:24] Speaker 1: Comes and it goes. Also, I have a little bone
[44:26] Speaker 1: to take with somebody.
[44:27] Speaker 3: Christen Bell, and Bell girl needs.
[44:30] Speaker 1: To stop taking my jobs.
[44:32] Speaker 3: What else did she take the show?
[44:35] Speaker 1: Nobody wants this. I could have played her character. I'm
[44:39] Speaker 1: living it. You're not an actress, whatever, Tomato, tomato.
[44:43] Speaker 3: It's very sad.
[44:44] Speaker 2: Well, I actually think you're Aaron uh Foster. Yeah, Aaron
[44:49] Speaker 2: Foster's life. Yes, she's really taking she's taking your life.
[44:54] Speaker 3: Yes, yes that is Christin Bell is simply a vessel.
[44:57] Speaker 1: But now, Kristen Bell, I have taken my role in
[45:01] Speaker 1: Sonic the Hedgehog four as Amy Rose, and I.
[45:04] Speaker 2: Think it was probably between y'all two at the end
[45:06] Speaker 2: and they edge up.
[45:10] Speaker 3: Edge you know, can we hear just a.
[45:14] Speaker 1: Line another one bites the dust?
[45:16] Speaker 3: Can we hear a line in your Amy Roe's voice?
[45:20] Speaker 3: Just just come on, Sonic, let's go up. Even you
[45:23] Speaker 3: can't get the clear.
[45:25] Speaker 1: I didn't have to say give me a line that
[45:27] Speaker 1: different than.
[45:29] Speaker 2: Almost very high and I almost felt like I couldn't
[45:33] Speaker 2: hear what you were saying because it.
[45:34] Speaker 3: Was so high.
[45:35] Speaker 1: Let me get like an actual line. Mhmm, Sonic, a
[45:41] Speaker 1: girl friend.
[45:45] Speaker 3: Anything else.
[45:46] Speaker 1: That's all gave me. I'll say more, please, Okay, here
[45:55] Speaker 1: we go. If I had to choose between the world
[45:57] Speaker 1: and Sonic, I would choose Sonic.
[46:00] Speaker 3: It's good. It needs some wait for me, it needs
[46:04] Speaker 3: some like cleaning up, and I.
[46:07] Speaker 1: Think it had.
[46:07] Speaker 6: It was more in the back of your throat before
[46:09] Speaker 6: there was.
[46:11] Speaker 3: Just because of the girl that's so scary.
[46:15] Speaker 6: I sent you a couple of more sample lines from
[46:17] Speaker 6: Amy via text here, so I feel like it was
[46:20] Speaker 6: it had more. I don't know, there's more character to it.
[46:22] Speaker 6: Right now, you're just doing yourself.
[46:24] Speaker 3: Tails.
[46:24] Speaker 1: You did it, but yeah, it's not hitting.
[46:27] Speaker 6: You're just doing Tanya high pitched. This had more of
[46:29] Speaker 6: a character to it.
[46:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Tails, you did it, But what are you
[46:33] Speaker 1: doing here on this island?
[46:35] Speaker 3: You didn't do that with your lips? I didn't know.
[46:38] Speaker 1: I think that felt stronger.
[46:39] Speaker 6: I think it was a step in the right direction.
[46:42] Speaker 1: I feel as though the fact that I can't do
[46:43] Speaker 1: the same voice every time I problematic.
[46:46] Speaker 2: That's gonna that's what was gonna hinder you. Yeah, they
[46:48] Speaker 2: had to go with someone who had some little more.
[46:50] Speaker 3: Consistency, which you could have gotten there if they give
[46:53] Speaker 3: you the chance. But they didn't have time.
[46:56] Speaker 1: Nobody gave me the chance punch the monkey.
[47:00] Speaker 3: Side again, he's comparing yourself to punch the monkey is crazy.
[47:08] Speaker 3: We are.
[47:10] Speaker 1: Leaving today, but say we're leaving all.
[47:14] Speaker 2: The week because we will be back on Thursday with
[47:16] Speaker 2: the Dear Bonnie episode.
[47:17] Speaker 3: Also, someone wrote like, I feel like this.
[47:19] Speaker 2: Is the longest ongoing prank of us trying to find
[47:22] Speaker 2: the jingle for Dear Bonia. So I'm curious if the
[47:25] Speaker 2: people like us trying to find a Dear Bonia jingle
[47:29] Speaker 2: or if we just give it up till we have
[47:31] Speaker 2: the one that we want.
[47:31] Speaker 1: I think we give it up till we find the one. Okay,
[47:33] Speaker 1: we shouldn't be like workshopping so much like on the show.
[47:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Okay, I respect they the wishes.
[47:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll be back anyways with the Dear Bond.
[47:45] Speaker 3: We'll be back with more jingles. No, I'm just kidding.
[47:48] Speaker 2: We'll be back on Thursday with the Dear Bonnia episode.
[47:52] Speaker 3: You much b

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