# Hayley Kiyoko’s Plus One and her Accountability Coach

An episode of [Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1279955329), 17 Mar 2026, 1 h 15 min.

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It’s the day after The Academy Awards, and Becca (as the fiancé of a film director) made it to some afterparties! You’ll never guess which celebs she rubbed elbows with and if she invited any to be on the pod! Tanya has taken on a new role as Hayley’s accountability coach, but how are things going in week 2?? We get into the “experiment” that is Age of Attraction on Netflix, and we have more from our chat with Jessica Barrett AND her new boyfriend Haramol Gill! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becka Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
[0:04] Speaker 1: and two times People's Choice Award winning podcast Hello everybody,
[0:13] Speaker 1: we are scrubbing in.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Well, Donia's on an elevator over there.
[0:19] Speaker 1: I'll have you know that I actually was going to
[0:22] Speaker 1: put on my black Alice sweats this morning, Like I
[0:24] Speaker 1: had them like pulled out, ready to go, and I
[0:27] Speaker 1: was like, we're in the middle of a heat wave.
[0:29] Speaker 1: Yeah we are. I know if I show up in
[0:30] Speaker 1: the podcast to the podcast with my black sweat set,
[0:35] Speaker 1: it's not gonna be well received. So I changed.
[0:37] Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought twice about it. Really, you've done
[0:40] Speaker 3: it before, You've had a puffer on in this heat.
[0:43] Speaker 4: Wave, I would have said something, Yeah, Yeah, I.
[0:45] Speaker 1: Think the puffer era is over. I think I've retired
[0:49] Speaker 1: it forever for the year. For the year. I haven't
[0:52] Speaker 1: worn it once this year and I and now that
[0:54] Speaker 1: it's ninety degrees, I think.
[0:56] Speaker 2: You can let it go for a how Yeah.
[0:58] Speaker 1: It's gonna stay in the closet all right.
[1:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, stay tuned for an update on that.
[1:04] Speaker 1: Exclusive.
[1:08] Speaker 3: Yeah, we are in a heat wave. I love it personally,
[1:11] Speaker 3: but it's great. Yeah, it's just you know, but you
[1:15] Speaker 3: don't like it.
[1:16] Speaker 1: No, Well, the nineties nineties, yeah, yeah.
[1:22] Speaker 3: But if I had to choose between freezing cold and
[1:24] Speaker 3: nineties and sunny, I'm choosing nineties and so.
[1:26] Speaker 1: March you would, yeah, March. Yeah.
[1:29] Speaker 3: I do wish there was a little transition from into spring,
[1:34] Speaker 3: spring to summer, but we just jumped straight to summer,
[1:36] Speaker 3: which is fine.
[1:37] Speaker 2: You know, we're in southern California, which makes me worried.
[1:39] Speaker 1: For the summer. A little worried for the summertime. There's
[1:42] Speaker 1: no need to worry. Worry is just wasted time. Ain't
[1:46] Speaker 1: that the truth it is. I'm really trying to be
[1:48] Speaker 1: more like present. Oh that's beautiful. It's the hardest thing
[1:53] Speaker 1: I've ever had to do in my life. Yeah.
[1:55] Speaker 3: I'm doing that with Haley right now too, being present, well,
[2:00] Speaker 3: her needing to be present.
[2:02] Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, your present is present? About me is
[2:05] Speaker 1: I'm I might be living in the past. Actually, I'm
[2:07] Speaker 1: so present. One thing you're not is future thinking.
[2:11] Speaker 2: I'm delayed.
[2:12] Speaker 1: If anything. Some may I argue was healthy, and I agree.
[2:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, my cortisol levels are perfectly potentially low. In fact,
[2:23] Speaker 3: today I walked in we had moved the podcast from
[2:25] Speaker 3: twelve to twelve fifteen. I walked into the studio empty,
[2:29] Speaker 3: just me, first time it's ever happened, and it said
[2:32] Speaker 3: twelve six I watched the clock turn to twelve sixteen
[2:35] Speaker 3: and I was still alone, and I said, well, I
[2:39] Speaker 3: have to bring it up and I documented it, so
[2:44] Speaker 3: proof mighty eighty HD didn't stop me today.
[2:48] Speaker 1: So you got here at twelve fifteen earlier.
[2:51] Speaker 2: I think twelve fourteen is when I arrived.
[2:53] Speaker 3: Actually I dropped Phoebe off at the groomer and it
[2:56] Speaker 3: was a faster process than I thought. So I got
[2:58] Speaker 3: here so early that I pulled off on the side
[3:01] Speaker 3: of the road.
[3:02] Speaker 1: To scroll and scrolled. Whoa, I had a like little
[3:06] Speaker 1: scroll sash. Wow. Yeah, I do apologize. Why did you
[3:11] Speaker 1: How did you know that I scrolled?
[3:13] Speaker 3: That's such a specific choice to make, and I thought
[3:15] Speaker 3: it was so.
[3:16] Speaker 1: Weird because I was early to my acupuncture appointment. I
[3:19] Speaker 1: sat in the parking lot and scrolled. That's so funny,
[3:23] Speaker 1: because I know they don't take me early. They take
[3:24] Speaker 1: me like right on the now. So I was like,
[3:26] Speaker 1: I either just sit up there and I can't scroll
[3:28] Speaker 1: because it needs to be quiet, yeah, or I sit
[3:31] Speaker 1: in my car. Yeah. Okay, okay, So anyways, I yeah,
[3:34] Speaker 1: I scrolled yeah Wow. Well, I knew I was gonna
[3:37] Speaker 1: be late normally we started at noon. I knew I
[3:39] Speaker 1: was gonna be late because I had to go I
[3:40] Speaker 1: had to go to the acupuncture. It was an emergency
[3:44] Speaker 1: and that was the only time he could squeeze me,
[3:45] Speaker 1: and so I I knew it was gonna take me
[3:47] Speaker 1: fifteen minutes for the drive, and I usually am out
[3:50] Speaker 1: by eleven fifty. I wasn't out quite till noon, So
[3:53] Speaker 1: I really cut it tight there.
[3:56] Speaker 3: So Tanya sends a Texans like can we move the
[3:58] Speaker 3: podcast a tool fifteen?
[3:59] Speaker 2: I'm like, why say anything?
[4:01] Speaker 3: Like that's normal, literally my normal time, and now you're
[4:03] Speaker 3: potentially pushing me back into other ten minutes.
[4:06] Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to, on the off chance that
[4:09] Speaker 1: you got here at noon, make you wait fifteen minutes
[4:12] Speaker 1: for me, like.
[4:12] Speaker 2: You know you'd hear about it. It was really a double
[4:14] Speaker 2: edged sword for.
[4:15] Speaker 1: It felt nasty to not say it, to not ask
[4:18] Speaker 1: because I knew I wasn't going to be here at noon.
[4:20] Speaker 3: People do that to me, really, they told me, and yeah,
[4:23] Speaker 3: they just they don't tell me the right time so
[4:25] Speaker 3: that I show up on time.
[4:27] Speaker 1: Dang, and that's something I.
[4:29] Speaker 3: Need to look inward about. You know, did you watch
[4:33] Speaker 3: the Oscars last night?
[4:35] Speaker 1: I did not watch the Oscars last night. I mean
[4:38] Speaker 1: that's fine.
[4:39] Speaker 2: I would say what I saw of it was not that.
[4:44] Speaker 1: Newsworthy. I just, for some reason this award season, was
[4:49] Speaker 1: not into the movies. Like I think I like the
[4:53] Speaker 1: Golden Globes and the Grammys because I'm into like music
[4:55] Speaker 1: and television. But movies, I'm realizing, and maybe it's my
[4:58] Speaker 1: attention span. Yes, they're all so freaking long. Yeah, like
[5:02] Speaker 1: two and a half hours, three and a half hours.
[5:05] Speaker 1: My gosh, golly.
[5:07] Speaker 3: You know what I've noticed is like you can tell
[5:09] Speaker 3: when a movie is made for the potential of getting
[5:14] Speaker 3: an Oscar nom Yeah, and they're unfortunately just a little
[5:18] Speaker 3: too over my head or deep or serious or artistic
[5:21] Speaker 3: for me.
[5:22] Speaker 1: The movie is How to Lose a Guy in Ten
[5:24] Speaker 1: Days and he's just not that into you. So what
[5:26] Speaker 1: am I doing watching Bogonia? You know what? I was
[5:30] Speaker 1: good though, I had to do.
[5:32] Speaker 4: But it's very good.
[5:33] Speaker 1: Who mind to watch if I have like that kick?
[5:35] Speaker 1: You you know, like it's just I think my palette is
[5:38] Speaker 1: just a little bit different.
[5:39] Speaker 2: Simple simple for these intellects.
[5:43] Speaker 1: I'm watching Extract on Netflix. Okay, so let's just call
[5:46] Speaker 1: a Space of Faith.
[5:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're watching Age of Attraction just so you know
[5:50] Speaker 3: where are Uh.
[5:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Haley is a lot more like she
[5:56] Speaker 1: she's a cinema cinephile. Cinephile. Yeah, is that someone who
[5:59] Speaker 1: like to watch movies?
[6:00] Speaker 4: That's yeah, it's not someone who with movies.
[6:03] Speaker 1: In case you're winder, Yeah, yeah, it sounds a little provocative.
[6:07] Speaker 4: With how did Hayley feel about the winners? I'm curious?
[6:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, so wait, you guys like went to watch
[6:11] Speaker 1: the Oscars at a party?
[6:12] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, oh we went to after parties,
[6:15] Speaker 3: but we don't.
[6:16] Speaker 1: We watched the Oscars at home.
[6:17] Speaker 3: Oh oh, but they do have the Elton John view
[6:20] Speaker 3: of you party. But w to know, we went to
[6:23] Speaker 3: the after party. So we went to the Elton John
[6:25] Speaker 3: after party and then we went to the Focus Features
[6:27] Speaker 3: after party.
[6:28] Speaker 1: So the Oscars were at five pm. You watched cover Oh.
[6:32] Speaker 3: I know, we thought they started it five, but we
[6:34] Speaker 3: turned it on and it was already going.
[6:36] Speaker 1: Okay, so you like loosely watched the Oscars and then
[6:38] Speaker 1: what time did you leave the.
[6:39] Speaker 2: House to go out like eight twenty.
[6:43] Speaker 1: You know, Becca's gotten big time. When I had to
[6:46] Speaker 1: find out she went to after Oscar parties on Instagram
[6:49] Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't.
[6:52] Speaker 2: I didn't know that was something you care about.
[6:55] Speaker 1: You didn't even watch the Oscar. I know it's the
[6:57] Speaker 1: biggest night in Hollywood. Like, if you're rubbing albums, would
[7:00] Speaker 1: do a leap in Callum Turner. We passed each other
[7:03] Speaker 1: in the hall. I'd like to know. I'd like to
[7:05] Speaker 1: follow your location and like be on the inside.
[7:08] Speaker 3: Well, one thing about Haley and I is we like
[7:11] Speaker 3: will plan to go to something and then plan our
[7:15] Speaker 3: getting ready process and think that we'll have plenty of
[7:17] Speaker 3: time to get photos and content and everything, and we
[7:20] Speaker 3: never do. It's always absolute chaos trying to get us
[7:22] Speaker 3: out of the house. We have no time for pictures.
[7:25] Speaker 3: So we were rushing to get to the Elton John
[7:27] Speaker 3: after party, uh to take photos on the carpet and stuff.
[7:31] Speaker 3: And then we were walking down the hallway and do
[7:34] Speaker 3: a lipa and Calum.
[7:35] Speaker 1: Turner, Calm Turner, what's his name? Calm Turner? Who am
[7:39] Speaker 1: I thinking?
[7:39] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Calm Turner, who are.
[7:40] Speaker 4: You thinking of?
[7:43] Speaker 1: So we passed him in the hall.
[7:47] Speaker 3: We passed him in the hall, and I was like,
[7:49] Speaker 3: oh my god, there's dual because the Elton John after
[7:51] Speaker 3: party I always think of it as like people like
[7:54] Speaker 3: meet like influencers and like people who uh like I
[7:58] Speaker 3: didn't expect you to do at by I didn't. Yeah, I
[8:01] Speaker 3: didn't expect to see like a lists.
[8:02] Speaker 5: No.
[8:03] Speaker 1: I feel like the Elton John after party is like anything.
[8:06] Speaker 2: I get invited to swing, I think, you.
[8:10] Speaker 1: Know what I mean, but big swinging, big swinging dicks.
[8:14] Speaker 1: Oh isn't that the term?
[8:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you think about the Elton John after party.
[8:20] Speaker 1: Is that not like it's like like the heavy hitters. Yeah?
[8:23] Speaker 2: No, But I guess in my mind, I think anything
[8:25] Speaker 2: I get invited.
[8:26] Speaker 3: To, I'm like, I expect to see, you know, not
[8:29] Speaker 3: a list. But I gotta re shift my mind because
[8:35] Speaker 3: like now I'm Haley's plus one, and Haley is a
[8:37] Speaker 3: feature film director, she's a cinemaphile, she's a centophile. And
[8:42] Speaker 3: then we went to the Focused Features after party and
[8:45] Speaker 3: that one was like intimate and like elevated, like sophisticated chic,
[8:51] Speaker 3: like how long were you at.
[8:52] Speaker 1: The Elton John one?
[8:55] Speaker 6: Oh?
[8:55] Speaker 1: I haven't okay, So then you went to the other one,
[8:58] Speaker 1: the Focus Features there for how long.
[9:01] Speaker 2: Like an hour. We literally were home before midnight. It
[9:03] Speaker 2: was amazing.
[9:04] Speaker 1: It was perfect. Okay, who was at the Focus Features.
[9:09] Speaker 3: And the Stone Gracie Abrams, Paul Mescal, it's like the
[9:16] Speaker 3: drink Mescal, Steven Spielberg, Yeah, I know, his sister Nancy.
[9:25] Speaker 1: They were like kind of blocked off. I felt like
[9:27] Speaker 1: they were like, we don't want anyone know unless I
[9:30] Speaker 1: Sometimes I.
[9:30] Speaker 3: Thought that the people that were working the event were
[9:33] Speaker 3: like security. And then there was this one section that
[9:35] Speaker 3: we were like, there's a seat, can we go sit
[9:37] Speaker 3: in there? And she's like, oh yeah, sure, Like I
[9:38] Speaker 3: think we were thinking, oh, are we allowed to sit here?
[9:42] Speaker 3: But everyone who was invited to that party.
[9:45] Speaker 1: Where so, you know, Steven Spielberg Encounter no shoot opportunity.
[9:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, well I was like I was gonna say, Jessica
[9:53] Speaker 3: Capshaw was on our podcast even I know, I know,
[9:56] Speaker 3: next time, next time, and and yeah it was it
[10:01] Speaker 3: was like really really cool, and it was so fun
[10:03] Speaker 3: because I was obviously Hayley's plus one and so she's
[10:06] Speaker 3: so room well she's so like she's talking to all
[10:09] Speaker 3: the Focus Features people and they're so excited about her
[10:12] Speaker 3: movie coming out, and then she's like my fiance Becket,
[10:14] Speaker 3: and then they're raving about the movie to me, and
[10:16] Speaker 3: I'm like, this is so cool that I like get
[10:18] Speaker 3: to be on her arm arm. Yeah, as an introduced
[10:22] Speaker 3: as a fiance. Wow to a feature film director. Yeah, cinephile,
[10:29] Speaker 3: I keep saying cinema file.
[10:30] Speaker 2: Oh no, it's just rolling off the tongue. But it's
[10:32] Speaker 2: not feel good.
[10:34] Speaker 1: So it was really fun. And then did you talk
[10:36] Speaker 1: to anyone? Did you talk to Emma Stone? No?
[10:39] Speaker 2: Like, okay, So just for the people who have not
[10:44] Speaker 2: been to one of these.
[10:45] Speaker 1: Parties, yeah, set the scene.
[10:46] Speaker 3: So the Elton John party is more everyone's walking around.
[10:49] Speaker 3: There's like several rooms. It's a huge event. So like
[10:53] Speaker 3: you walk and then there's a photo booth room, and
[10:55] Speaker 3: then there's a barroom, and then there's another barroom.
[10:57] Speaker 2: Like it's very social.
[10:59] Speaker 3: There's a dance floor and it's more like you're kind
[11:02] Speaker 3: of mingling up. And about the one that we went
[11:04] Speaker 3: to for which that was my first time going to
[11:06] Speaker 3: one that was like elevated to like intimate like that, Yeah,
[11:11] Speaker 3: it's people sitting in it's dark, and it's you know,
[11:13] Speaker 3: people are just talking with their peers, and it's not
[11:17] Speaker 3: a space where you want to go up and be like, hi,
[11:20] Speaker 3: I'm such a big fan of you.
[11:22] Speaker 2: Like it's almost like a safe space.
[11:24] Speaker 3: Yes, of course, So I especially was super cognizant of
[11:29] Speaker 3: that and aware and.
[11:30] Speaker 1: No, but you could still not be like fangirl and
[11:33] Speaker 1: still like have a chat.
[11:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, but if they're like in the middle of a
[11:37] Speaker 3: conversation with their friends, I'm not going to go up and.
[11:39] Speaker 2: Be like hi, you know, it's just not it's not
[11:41] Speaker 2: it really isn't.
[11:42] Speaker 4: Beautiful excited for the Bachelorette next week.
[11:45] Speaker 3: Get if she like got up and walked out and
[11:49] Speaker 3: like had gone to the bar and passed us.
[11:50] Speaker 1: Maybe in that moment, No, Dua was surrounded by.
[11:54] Speaker 3: Her team and they were in a rush going somewhere,
[11:57] Speaker 3: so I couldn't go into the Vanity Fair party. Yeah,
[12:00] Speaker 3: so they were like they're on the go, and I
[12:02] Speaker 3: was just like, oh my god. You know any like
[12:05] Speaker 3: that sound effect when traffic goes by, It's like that's
[12:08] Speaker 3: what it was like.
[12:09] Speaker 2: But we're like, oh, okay.
[12:11] Speaker 1: So then the Focused Features party, was it like was
[12:13] Speaker 1: it like sectioned off tables? No?
[12:18] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, but they weren't like sectioned off,
[12:20] Speaker 3: like anyone could sit anywhere.
[12:21] Speaker 1: They were like booth. It was at a bar, which are.
[12:24] Speaker 3: Bar Marmont, like next to Chateau mar Okay, but it
[12:29] Speaker 3: was very chic and it was really cool, just like
[12:33] Speaker 3: being in a room with those people.
[12:35] Speaker 1: I mean especially for her. I mean like hey, I'm like, hey,
[12:37] Speaker 1: like these.
[12:37] Speaker 2: Are your peers now like you and Steven Spielberger peers.
[12:41] Speaker 1: You both are directed a feature Focus features film.
[12:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was really cool.
[12:48] Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
[12:48] Speaker 3: But then we were home and I was like stoked
[12:50] Speaker 3: to get I had one drink, French fries, time for bed.
[12:54] Speaker 3: They had an in and out truck outside, heavy handed.
[12:59] Speaker 3: I know, it's like the same same page, same So yeah,
[13:04] Speaker 3: it was really cool. And I can't believe I get
[13:07] Speaker 3: to someone DM me and they're like, sorry to sound
[13:11] Speaker 3: if I just sound rude, but like why do you
[13:12] Speaker 3: go to these You're not an actress? And I'm like, okay,
[13:15] Speaker 3: first of all, the last one to a director. Yeah,
[13:19] Speaker 3: And second of all, I got invited. What am I
[13:21] Speaker 3: supposed to say?
[13:22] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not a.
[13:26] Speaker 4: Reality show. I really shouldn't.
[13:28] Speaker 1: Oh my god, Orlandria is going to the Vanity Fair
[13:31] Speaker 1: oscar party. She was on Love Island. Okay, Becka Tilly
[13:34] Speaker 1: from The Bachelor can go to whatever she wants.
[13:37] Speaker 3: No, honestly, a lot Landria really is crushing. She's at
[13:42] Speaker 3: everything high level.
[13:44] Speaker 1: So I don't agree.
[13:45] Speaker 2: I don't know who she's teamed up with after Love Island, but.
[13:49] Speaker 1: In her pr or what is she doing, I think
[13:52] Speaker 1: she's still with Nicholas. Yeah wow, and I don't know
[13:57] Speaker 1: or whatever, but proved me wrong. That's yeah, I not
[14:01] Speaker 1: that interview care. But the winners of Love Island UK
[14:05] Speaker 1: All Stars already broke up. It's been three weeks. I'm like,
[14:11] Speaker 1: oh my god, I know that, Like All Stars gets
[14:13] Speaker 1: a bad rap that they're going on just for clout,
[14:15] Speaker 1: so like knowing.
[14:16] Speaker 3: That horrible, Like, yeah, el fake it for like a
[14:21] Speaker 3: little bit.
[14:22] Speaker 1: I feel like weeks. It's like I have I have
[14:25] Speaker 1: almond milk in my fridge longer than that. I'm not
[14:27] Speaker 1: saying something.
[14:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say if I went on a show
[14:31] Speaker 3: like that and I ended up with someone unless they
[14:33] Speaker 3: were just like the worst person ever and I didn't
[14:36] Speaker 3: want to be associated.
[14:37] Speaker 2: With them after the fact, I would go at least
[14:39] Speaker 2: six months.
[14:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, give the people what they want, and I would
[14:42] Speaker 3: do stage paparazzi shots.
[14:45] Speaker 1: Excellent, Give me some TikTok dances. Feed me, okay as
[14:50] Speaker 1: a fan, feed me. Yeah, I feel slapped in the
[14:53] Speaker 1: face because I went to bat for Sammy all season
[14:56] Speaker 1: and now I'm just like, looks like I was wrong.
[14:59] Speaker 1: She did it for the followers. Shoot, yeah, I'm a
[15:02] Speaker 1: chump chumping. You ate it up. She didn't have to
[15:07] Speaker 1: feed you because you ate it up. Yeah. I was
[15:09] Speaker 1: fed less and I was fool Yeah.
[15:13] Speaker 4: Can we point out that Tiny did it backwards al
[15:15] Speaker 4: for chump?
[15:19] Speaker 3: Actually though, is that mirrored because it might actually translate?
[15:23] Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Anyways, sidetrack, something else.
[15:30] Speaker 3: Really funny happened between Tanya and Haley and I want
[15:34] Speaker 3: to talk about it, but we're going to take a break.
[15:36] Speaker 1: What happened too quarter back?
[15:55] Speaker 4: It was a photo finished. I don't know who got
[15:57] Speaker 4: that first.
[16:00] Speaker 3: Okay, So when we went to the Bahamas, Tanya and Hailey.
[16:05] Speaker 1: Was just no idea what you're about to say. And
[16:06] Speaker 1: it's kind of thrilling.
[16:09] Speaker 3: Haley was telling you know, Haley and Tanya were chit chatting,
[16:13] Speaker 3: and I loved that trip.
[16:14] Speaker 2: By the way, I look back on it with such
[16:16] Speaker 2: fond memory.
[16:18] Speaker 1: That's so nice. I do too. It was a flash
[16:20] Speaker 1: in the pan. It was fast and furious.
[16:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, But Tanya and Hailey were discussing just like diets
[16:28] Speaker 3: and Haley's like allergies and whatnot, and she was just
[16:31] Speaker 3: Haley was just saying, oh, I just like don't feel great,
[16:33] Speaker 3: and I I I just want like my body to
[16:37] Speaker 3: feel better and whatever. So Tanya goes, I promise you
[16:40] Speaker 3: if you cut out processed sugar and gluten, I feel
[16:44] Speaker 3: like you'd noticed a significant difference.
[16:46] Speaker 1: So Haley, this is spoiler alert. I'm no nutritionist. No no, no,
[16:51] Speaker 1: I'm not giving. I'm not giving.
[16:53] Speaker 3: This is very I think if people cut out processed sugar,
[16:56] Speaker 3: that's good advice.
[16:57] Speaker 1: This was just like your own experience from my previous
[17:01] Speaker 1: experience and how it made me feel. So I wasn't like, no, no, no, Haley.
[17:05] Speaker 3: I think was asking because you have allergies and like
[17:09] Speaker 3: you are very focused on your health and exercise, and
[17:12] Speaker 3: she was like, what do you do when you want
[17:13] Speaker 3: to feel better? And and Tanya said, well, I cut
[17:15] Speaker 3: out processed sugar and I can't handle gluten, so I
[17:18] Speaker 3: cut that out. And Haley was like yeah, I actually
[17:20] Speaker 3: do feel better when I don't eat bread, so that
[17:22] Speaker 3: makes sense. I'm gonna try. And Tanya goes, well, do
[17:24] Speaker 3: you want me to be your accountability coach?
[17:26] Speaker 2: And I'll just like check in and encourage you.
[17:28] Speaker 1: Mind you.
[17:29] Speaker 3: Tanya has tried to be my accountability coach so many times,
[17:32] Speaker 3: and it's just she.
[17:33] Speaker 1: Got read it's not met well more than usual, like
[17:38] Speaker 1: I cannot I realize and it's something I need to
[17:42] Speaker 1: work on myself.
[17:43] Speaker 3: I cannot be held accountable. So but Haley, Haley was like,
[17:50] Speaker 3: I love that. So Tanya starts off and and she
[17:56] Speaker 3: starts sending Haley and Tomorrow's the day.
[17:59] Speaker 1: You're strong. You can do it.
[18:00] Speaker 3: You're gonna feel so much better, get through the first day,
[18:03] Speaker 3: and the next day is going to be easier, like great.
[18:05] Speaker 1: Oprah, it's Oprah.
[18:06] Speaker 3: And Haley is like, wow, Tanya really texts a lot
[18:10] Speaker 3: when she's doing this like coaching at first, and I go, yeah,
[18:13] Speaker 3: that's why. I was just like, I can't. This isn't
[18:16] Speaker 3: for me, and she goes, I like it. I kind
[18:19] Speaker 3: of like it.
[18:20] Speaker 1: So they go for like a week or two yeah, no,
[18:24] Speaker 1: like a week a week and why do I have PTSD?
[18:26] Speaker 1: From Becca and the way she handled me as a coach.
[18:29] Speaker 1: So I'm treading lightly with Hailey, Like I'm like, I
[18:31] Speaker 1: want to like help her and like be there for her,
[18:34] Speaker 1: but I also like don't want to overstep and like
[18:36] Speaker 1: because I feel like the minute you get turned off
[18:38] Speaker 1: with me with that, like you're done. So I'm like
[18:41] Speaker 1: I need to I'm just like going to get her
[18:42] Speaker 1: through the first week and then let the butterfly fly. Yeah,
[18:46] Speaker 1: So Hailey's loving it.
[18:48] Speaker 3: She's like, Tanya is amazing at this, like she could
[18:52] Speaker 3: do this as a career. And I was like, I
[18:53] Speaker 3: told I texted Tanya. I was like, Haley loves this.
[18:55] Speaker 3: She says, you're really good at it.
[18:57] Speaker 1: And then last.
[18:59] Speaker 3: Week, which I guess this week too, goes, I haven't
[19:04] Speaker 3: heard from Tanya, and she goes, it's like I slipped
[19:07] Speaker 3: off the bandwagon. Told her I had a chocolate covered strawberry,
[19:09] Speaker 3: and now she hasn't texted me. And I was like, wait, what,
[19:14] Speaker 3: Like she was she mad when he told her she
[19:17] Speaker 3: had to chocolate covered strawberry. She goes, no, she just
[19:19] Speaker 3: said it's okay, like you'll start again tomorrow, you know,
[19:24] Speaker 3: But I haven't heard anything. And I kind of missed it,
[19:27] Speaker 3: and so I text Tanya and I'm like, what the heck,
[19:31] Speaker 3: Like Haley's missing her text? What kind of coach are you?
[19:34] Speaker 1: One weekend and you're done?
[19:36] Speaker 4: You need accountability.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, to be fair, I should have like I should
[19:41] Speaker 1: have had the conversation with Haley beforehand, like how long
[19:44] Speaker 1: did she want me to do it? Like is she
[19:46] Speaker 1: liking what's happening? Like I didn't want to. I just
[19:49] Speaker 1: like I have a little PTSD from doing it with Becka.
[19:52] Speaker 3: It's feeling like you're blaming me for your you dropping
[19:56] Speaker 3: the ball, which is quite fair because I not drop
[20:00] Speaker 3: said she's liking this. She says, you're really good at it.
[20:02] Speaker 3: So I gave you the indication that she was enjoying it.
[20:06] Speaker 3: I wasn't saying like Haley.
[20:08] Speaker 1: Too, because I could feel like she was like proud
[20:10] Speaker 1: of herself, she thrives whatever that is.
[20:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, I could tell dynamic, I could tell anyways.
[20:17] Speaker 3: I had to text one and be like okay, like
[20:20] Speaker 3: pick it back up, and Haley goes even if she
[20:23] Speaker 3: just wants to text me at the beginning of a
[20:24] Speaker 3: week and then the end of the week.
[20:26] Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, that's not how we roll. What
[20:30] Speaker 1: do you mean. Oh, yeah, so that.
[20:33] Speaker 4: An ideal rhythm is daily, once a day or I.
[20:36] Speaker 1: Was trying to do morning and night like really hammer
[20:40] Speaker 1: in the hope and the top and then close it
[20:43] Speaker 1: with some encouragement at the end of the day.
[20:46] Speaker 4: You don't have to give away a trade secret here,
[20:48] Speaker 4: but how often do you do in like scheduled text?
[20:51] Speaker 4: Zero zero? It's all live in the moment.
[20:52] Speaker 1: I know you could do schedule text until recently.
[20:55] Speaker 4: Yeah, you could just myself.
[20:57] Speaker 1: It's a new feature because I didn't know this until
[20:59] Speaker 1: like last week. But now that I did, it's not
[21:03] Speaker 1: every night at a PM.
[21:05] Speaker 4: Sorry, I had a really rough date, a lot of
[21:07] Speaker 4: nachos and great job, let's do it again tomorrow.
[21:11] Speaker 1: Gets some good sleep.
[21:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's been really good. Yeah, so I wasn't.
[21:16] Speaker 1: Even mad about it. I was like, chocolate, a strawberry
[21:18] Speaker 1: is fine, grup, gorgeous.
[21:21] Speaker 2: Well, she didn't know. She didn't know if you were
[21:23] Speaker 2: if you were fine.
[21:24] Speaker 1: With it, that's funny.
[21:25] Speaker 3: She thought I was madt disappointed.
[21:30] Speaker 1: So well, now I'm back on and it really feels
[21:34] Speaker 1: good that Haley appreciates it. I think I thrive in
[21:36] Speaker 1: it too, because it like I don't know, like encouraging
[21:41] Speaker 1: somebody else also like encourages you in a way.
[21:44] Speaker 3: Well, it's like you're holding your own self accountable because
[21:46] Speaker 3: if you're sending these words and then things, it's like,
[21:50] Speaker 3: what about me?
[21:51] Speaker 1: Am?
[21:51] Speaker 2: I am I being a good example for this person?
[21:54] Speaker 3: Right?
[21:55] Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Well do as I say that, not as
[21:57] Speaker 1: I do. That's what I was gonna text her yesterday
[21:59] Speaker 1: because I knew I was going for my dipped cone
[22:01] Speaker 1: ID scheduled it the week before of the dipped code. Yeah,
[22:06] Speaker 1: so I like projected onto her in the morning and
[22:08] Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna be really hot out today maybe. Yeah.
[22:16] Speaker 3: So that was really funny, but I'm glad. I'm I
[22:20] Speaker 3: was like, y'all need to figure this out. I can't
[22:21] Speaker 3: be the middleman here. First of all, when they started,
[22:24] Speaker 3: Tanya had me in the chat with Haley and was
[22:27] Speaker 3: like sending the message.
[22:28] Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, I did not want this.
[22:31] Speaker 3: I have opted out and this is your thing together
[22:36] Speaker 3: a lot me remove myself.
[22:37] Speaker 1: Indeed, it is our thing together. Yes, we'll ride it out.
[22:40] Speaker 1: We'll ride till dawn.
[22:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, well until you're unresponsive, which is what happened.
[22:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to pre schedule some text this weekend.
[22:51] Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn how to do that for the.
[22:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't be like, oh, yeah, how was your
[22:57] Speaker 2: one year anniversary?
[23:00] Speaker 1: Was a marriage? It was good? What y'all do? We're
[23:04] Speaker 1: really celebrating this weekend. We're going to go to Combo
[23:07] Speaker 1: for the weekend. And then last weekend we we kind
[23:12] Speaker 1: of celebrate like our family birthday. So we went out
[23:15] Speaker 1: to dinner with the kids and kind of like had
[23:18] Speaker 1: like a candle and and all talked about like, yeah,
[23:21] Speaker 1: I talked about like our favorite moments and memories from
[23:23] Speaker 1: the wedding and like it's so cute to hear your
[23:27] Speaker 1: step kids like just really enjoy your wedding as much
[23:32] Speaker 1: as you did, you know what I mean? Like he
[23:34] Speaker 1: was like my favorite part was getting there and my
[23:36] Speaker 1: worst part was leaving. Like he loved everything about it,
[23:39] Speaker 1: and like I don't know, I know it was really sweet.
[23:43] Speaker 1: And so that's kind of what we did. The night
[23:47] Speaker 1: of our anniversary. He like got me flowers. We both
[23:49] Speaker 1: did paper as our gift. Huh. So I gave him
[23:53] Speaker 1: like a little corner of what I'm like the art
[23:56] Speaker 1: piece that I'm making mission commissioning, which he really loved
[24:01] Speaker 1: and he's gonna like put the that piece up in
[24:03] Speaker 1: his office. And then he said his is taking a
[24:05] Speaker 1: little bit longer and it wasn't ready either, So I
[24:07] Speaker 1: don't know what it is.
[24:08] Speaker 3: Y'all both commission the same piece of art for the
[24:11] Speaker 3: same artist.
[24:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't actually have no because I obviously told
[24:14] Speaker 1: him what mine was because it was like, this is
[24:15] Speaker 1: just like the teaser part of it. But I have
[24:18] Speaker 1: no idea what he got me. You think he's but
[24:21] Speaker 1: he said it's in the paper realm.
[24:23] Speaker 3: Well, I messaged him and it was like the day
[24:26] Speaker 3: before because I've forgotten. I was like, hey, FYI, the
[24:31] Speaker 3: first anniversary is paper, so at the very least you
[24:34] Speaker 3: need to have a nice card.
[24:36] Speaker 2: And he goes Becca like because he showed it to
[24:40] Speaker 2: that on it.
[24:41] Speaker 3: He's like, I'm on it, and I was like, okay, Well,
[24:44] Speaker 3: I didn't want to be responsible as something went down
[24:46] Speaker 3: because I was supposed to say something, so I'm.
[24:48] Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you did. Yeah, but you know,
[24:49] Speaker 1: it's actually really funny. We almost got each other the
[24:51] Speaker 1: same card. Oh that's cool. So he opened his card
[24:54] Speaker 1: that I got him and he was like, oh my gosh,
[24:55] Speaker 1: and he went into like little cab cabinet that we
[24:58] Speaker 1: have like our cards, and he pulled it out and
[24:59] Speaker 1: he was like, got to He ended up giving me
[25:02] Speaker 1: the other one.
[25:02] Speaker 7: Wow.
[25:03] Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, I love the simpatico. Yeah, I
[25:08] Speaker 1: love having a card drawer. We also do that. Yeah,
[25:11] Speaker 1: it's more more for like last minute, like if somebody's
[25:13] Speaker 1: birthday at work and you forget, you know what I mean. Like,
[25:16] Speaker 1: it's it's.
[25:16] Speaker 2: Nice to be able to go through and be like,
[25:18] Speaker 2: oh I have my cards.
[25:19] Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, instead of last minute always like oh I
[25:21] Speaker 1: need to get a card for this exactly.
[25:23] Speaker 4: We also have a card drawer and it's is that
[25:25] Speaker 4: just adulthood?
[25:27] Speaker 2: Wow, it's giving adulthood.
[25:29] Speaker 1: I love it.
[25:30] Speaker 4: It's great.
[25:30] Speaker 1: It's nice.
[25:32] Speaker 3: Wait are y'all watching Age of Attraction as well? Yes,
[25:36] Speaker 3: it is insane. I know Euston's anti personally Robbie.
[25:43] Speaker 1: Robbie is also anti, so I will say that, you.
[25:45] Speaker 2: Guys, it's it's crazy.
[25:48] Speaker 1: I mean, the show is. It's so bad. But like,
[25:51] Speaker 1: let's save our synopsis to the end in case anybody's
[25:54] Speaker 1: not watching. But I have some hot takes. Okay, okay,
[25:58] Speaker 1: we'll get to those later, I guess I get to it,
[26:01] Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if you want to.
[26:03] Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you're not watching, if you're watching Age
[26:06] Speaker 4: of Attraction, you don't want to be spoiled, turn the
[26:08] Speaker 4: podcast off right now, stop listening.
[26:11] Speaker 1: I mean, it's not much of a spoiler because I've
[26:13] Speaker 1: only watched I think the first two or three I have.
[26:16] Speaker 1: I'm not even caught up. Yeah, I mean, I'll just
[26:19] Speaker 1: lay it up for you.
[26:20] Speaker 3: The premise of the show is about age gaps, and
[26:22] Speaker 3: it's people from all different ages from their twenties to
[26:24] Speaker 3: their sixties, and they're all dating each other.
[26:26] Speaker 2: But the one rule is they're not allowed to ask
[26:28] Speaker 2: how old they are.
[26:29] Speaker 1: So it's kind of calm in my mind.
[26:31] Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh, these people have they never seen someone
[26:35] Speaker 3: this age?
[26:35] Speaker 1: Like what is the disconnect? I'll say, I think the
[26:38] Speaker 1: casting department like did a dirty one, because I feel
[26:43] Speaker 1: like the older people that they put in there look
[26:47] Speaker 1: super young. I mean, like the guy that's sixty that
[26:52] Speaker 1: I don't know any of their names, So excuse me,
[26:53] Speaker 1: the guy that's sixty.
[26:55] Speaker 3: You're not gonna spoil anything because you're just gonna be
[26:57] Speaker 3: like the guy or the girl that's six year I.
[27:00] Speaker 1: Only know their ages. I don't know their names at
[27:02] Speaker 1: this point. But the guy that's sixty does not. He
[27:06] Speaker 1: did not look sixty to me, like I was.
[27:08] Speaker 2: Shocked, but he did not look forties.
[27:10] Speaker 1: He did not look forties. But thought she thought, yes,
[27:14] Speaker 1: oh yeah.
[27:16] Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, No, he's a good looking guy.
[27:19] Speaker 4: He looks Did they cast any like busted like twenty
[27:21] Speaker 4: four year olds or anything.
[27:22] Speaker 1: No, No, everybody's like, everybody looks great. Everybody's like hot.
[27:26] Speaker 1: But the people that are were the like the older
[27:29] Speaker 1: people to me, in my opinion, looked very young. No,
[27:33] Speaker 1: they like I got all of their in age is wrong.
[27:35] Speaker 3: They're they're all oh I actually was like right on
[27:39] Speaker 3: the money or like one year off on them.
[27:41] Speaker 6: Wow.
[27:42] Speaker 3: Yeah. But they did casting in this sense, did a
[27:45] Speaker 3: great job at making it ambiguous because it's kind of like, okay,
[27:49] Speaker 3: are they there's a couple of girls where I'm like,
[27:52] Speaker 3: she might be twenty one, libya, I know.
[27:56] Speaker 1: I'm like, the only reason I know she's twenty one
[27:58] Speaker 1: because she's drinking alcohol.
[28:01] Speaker 3: That's what Hailey, Guys, I go, I think she has
[28:03] Speaker 3: to be twenty one. Yeah yeah, yeah, she's really cute.
[28:07] Speaker 3: But yeah, of course, the men going for these girls.
[28:10] Speaker 3: I'm like, these men know exactly.
[28:13] Speaker 1: What they're doing the shop their faces. They're like, I
[28:16] Speaker 1: had no idea she was twenty two.
[28:18] Speaker 8: I'm like, please, you have a daughter older than her.
[28:23] Speaker 2: Literally, So yeah, it is like the most chaotic show.
[28:27] Speaker 3: But the way they're editing it, it ends right before
[28:30] Speaker 3: they reveal their ages, so then you're like, well, I
[28:32] Speaker 3: just got to see.
[28:33] Speaker 1: The next next episode.
[28:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're like hate watching it.
[28:37] Speaker 1: So that's what we're like. Robbie was like, I don't
[28:40] Speaker 1: want to watch it at all, Like you watch it
[28:42] Speaker 1: on your own, like it's all good. It always says
[28:44] Speaker 1: that about it, So I do, like I'll wait to
[28:47] Speaker 1: watch it until it's like my time or you know,
[28:49] Speaker 1: if he wants to go to sleep, and I'll watch it.
[28:51] Speaker 1: But he's like, how old is she? Howl? Does she
[28:55] Speaker 1: land up together?
[28:56] Speaker 3: It's it's a it's it's it's an interesting spearman. And
[29:00] Speaker 3: it also is like, for some reason, the women that
[29:03] Speaker 3: are older that are dating the younger men, I'm like, yeah,
[29:06] Speaker 3: go girl, And in the men, I'm like.
[29:07] Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna say that too, Like there's something I'm
[29:14] Speaker 1: so sorry. There's something creepy about a sixty year old
[29:17] Speaker 1: man dating a twenty seven year old girl.
[29:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, Like say, I'm gonna stand tinto down
[29:24] Speaker 3: on that guy.
[29:25] Speaker 1: It's just creepy, and like I actually like the guy,
[29:28] Speaker 1: Like I like this guy from what I've seen, but like, oh,
[29:31] Speaker 1: you don't like him, you think there's something weird.
[29:33] Speaker 2: Well just keep watching.
[29:34] Speaker 1: Oh shoot yeah, from what I've seen so far, he
[29:38] Speaker 1: seems great. Huh. But I'm like, it's just it's giving.
[29:45] Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. Here's the thing.
[29:47] Speaker 3: I'm if it works like for people listening, if it
[29:50] Speaker 3: works for you, I think, sure you there's a chance
[29:53] Speaker 3: that you find in connection with someone with an age guy.
[29:55] Speaker 3: But it's like, why are you, as a woman having
[29:59] Speaker 3: to find a man that much older than you to
[30:02] Speaker 3: connect with emotionally? Like what does that say about him
[30:05] Speaker 3: that it took him that long to get to a
[30:07] Speaker 3: place where he's connecting with you on an emotional level
[30:10] Speaker 3: while you're twenty years old? Right?
[30:11] Speaker 1: Like I'm like I'm thirty eight, and I don't think
[30:13] Speaker 1: I could connect with a twenty seven year old Like
[30:15] Speaker 1: it's like, yeah.
[30:16] Speaker 4: Really talk about it. I just I keep thinking about that.
[30:20] Speaker 4: And the other thing is like, culturally, men are in
[30:23] Speaker 4: a position of power by default and women are not.
[30:29] Speaker 4: And I know that this is a case by case thing,
[30:31] Speaker 4: but I just when I see this, I'm like, how
[30:33] Speaker 4: can that not come into play? Like this, this man
[30:37] Speaker 4: I better do what he says because he's an older
[30:39] Speaker 4: man and I'm taught to they are leaders.
[30:42] Speaker 1: And respect my elders.
[30:43] Speaker 4: Yes, And I just get I've never gotten the eck
[30:46] Speaker 4: harder than that situation. I dislike everything about this.
[30:51] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[30:51] Speaker 3: Well, I oh, I know a girl that she had
[30:55] Speaker 3: like her own company really young and sold it and
[30:57] Speaker 3: made like a ton of money. It was like a
[30:59] Speaker 3: boss and like was just had her thing going. And
[31:01] Speaker 3: she met this guy who was also like a really
[31:03] Speaker 3: wealthy man. I think he was like a client of
[31:04] Speaker 3: hers or something. And they're married now and they had
[31:06] Speaker 3: a significant age.
[31:07] Speaker 1: Gap, but like how significant, like.
[31:12] Speaker 3: Twenty years probably okay significant, Yeah, But for whatever reason,
[31:17] Speaker 3: they're still together. They have a kid together. Like it
[31:20] Speaker 3: it worked. And I don't know if that was because
[31:21] Speaker 3: she went through something where she was in control, so
[31:24] Speaker 3: she wasn't like she needed right, It wasn't like an
[31:27] Speaker 3: authority thing. I think they just connected and had a
[31:30] Speaker 3: relate and then it developed into a relationship. So I'm
[31:33] Speaker 3: not saying I don't think it can be there, but
[31:36] Speaker 3: intentionally dating someone knowing that there's a significant age gap
[31:40] Speaker 3: from the beginning, I don't know, there's something about it.
[31:43] Speaker 1: I know.
[31:44] Speaker 8: I also think the state of the world we're in
[31:46] Speaker 8: right now and like just like what we're seeing with
[31:50] Speaker 8: like the men in power, it's like, I don't know,
[31:54] Speaker 8: I don't like it.
[31:55] Speaker 1: I'm with you, it's like really creeping me out. And
[31:57] Speaker 1: I like, I have this this debate. I was like,
[32:00] Speaker 1: I don't really want to support this show, like I
[32:02] Speaker 1: don't want to give it, having like a moral dilemma
[32:06] Speaker 1: because I'm like I am like I am into it,
[32:11] Speaker 1: and on the other hand, I'm like there's something in
[32:13] Speaker 1: my morality that like I don't want to give it streams,
[32:16] Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it, like and here
[32:18] Speaker 1: we go and here we are doing both, Yeah, giving
[32:20] Speaker 1: it the most.
[32:21] Speaker 3: Listen, if you're listening and you have a successful, healthy
[32:25] Speaker 3: age gap relationship, I want to know how it came
[32:31] Speaker 3: about and how you connect.
[32:34] Speaker 1: And we will give you a platform. Yes, yes, we
[32:37] Speaker 1: will talk to me. Will we will hear you out?
[32:41] Speaker 1: You know what I found interesting? And again, pardon me
[32:43] Speaker 1: that I've only watched the first two episodes. I feel
[32:46] Speaker 1: like Natalie is speaking a lot more than Nick, so
[32:49] Speaker 1: much more. Why is that maybe the host woman the power?
[32:54] Speaker 1: Let's give the woman the mic. I love Natalie, so
[32:57] Speaker 1: I was like, okay, great, but I noticed that too.
[33:00] Speaker 1: I was like, she's talking a lot more than him.
[33:02] Speaker 3: Like did they like cut it and recut all her
[33:04] Speaker 3: like re? I couldn't tell if they were like re,
[33:07] Speaker 3: Uh what's it called?
[33:08] Speaker 1: Were you voiceovered? Yeah?
[33:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, because you could hear them talking and it's showing
[33:13] Speaker 3: the audience.
[33:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so I don't know.
[33:17] Speaker 3: Interesting but anyways, Yeah, it is uh fascinating, and we
[33:22] Speaker 3: would love to hear from you if you're in at
[33:23] Speaker 3: least situation that's like good, like that you are pro
[33:27] Speaker 3: pro age gap.
[33:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't to hear about it.
[33:29] Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your Actually, I would. I welcome
[33:31] Speaker 1: your perspective because I do think that I'm having a
[33:35] Speaker 1: very like viscerally negative, uh feeling about it right now. Yeah,
[33:41] Speaker 1: just from the show.
[33:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, like something when you get to a certain age,
[33:45] Speaker 4: I think, like over thirty, if there's like a ten
[33:47] Speaker 4: year age gap, like like if your partner's forty and
[33:50] Speaker 4: your thirty. I feel like, culturally, yeah, it's pretty much.
[33:53] Speaker 1: The same how I am for eight years.
[33:55] Speaker 4: I have such a hard time not thinking about is
[33:58] Speaker 4: doing the math at the earlier part of life, Like god,
[34:00] Speaker 4: when so when Nick was twenty one Natalie was two, two, no.
[34:07] Speaker 2: Three, three?
[34:08] Speaker 4: Like I that part and I know that they did
[34:10] Speaker 4: not know each other, not like yeah, that should not
[34:13] Speaker 4: take into yeah, I should not take that into account,
[34:15] Speaker 4: but I do. I think about that all the time,
[34:16] Speaker 4: like wow, when she was in high school, he was,
[34:18] Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, I just I think about that.
[34:21] Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's probably where the reaction comes from,
[34:25] Speaker 3: because you go to that.
[34:27] Speaker 2: But I agree.
[34:28] Speaker 3: I think at a certain age you kind of go okay,
[34:30] Speaker 3: I connect with who I connect with. I think when
[34:32] Speaker 3: you're in this developmental stage, which I still think early
[34:35] Speaker 3: twenties of the twenties is like a learning yourself and
[34:39] Speaker 3: about who you are and what you want. And then
[34:41] Speaker 3: I feel like after, you know, after thirty, you kind
[34:43] Speaker 3: of like have a sense of self, so you're able.
[34:46] Speaker 1: I don't know there is like also correct me if
[34:48] Speaker 1: I'm wrong here, but my impression from watching them when
[34:51] Speaker 1: they revealed their ages, like every guy when he found
[34:55] Speaker 1: out the girl was like twenty two or twenty seven,
[34:57] Speaker 1: was like the girl, and like the girls were kind
[35:02] Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I think I can work with that,
[35:07] Speaker 1: Like do you know what I mean younger girl? Yeah,
[35:09] Speaker 1: Like they were like I did fall in love with him,
[35:13] Speaker 1: like knowing his soul, so maybe that you know what
[35:16] Speaker 1: I mean, Like they have it. I feel like they're
[35:17] Speaker 1: having to like talk themselves into it, which is like
[35:20] Speaker 1: sad to me, but also.
[35:21] Speaker 3: You and then the older women are like, oh my god,
[35:24] Speaker 3: like when they hear the age, they're like no, like
[35:27] Speaker 3: they're like, can is this?
[35:29] Speaker 1: Can I do it? Like Teresa, is she the stylist? No,
[35:33] Speaker 1: she's the like I think she's fifty four and her
[35:35] Speaker 1: boyfriend or the guy is like Prince Harry, he's like
[35:37] Speaker 1: twenty seconds. She's a stylist. She's so cute. I love her.
[35:41] Speaker 1: But her reaction was so like, well, well, yes, yeah.
[35:45] Speaker 4: She is fifty four, Yeah.
[35:47] Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, yes, I agree, like well thought out,
[35:50] Speaker 1: like the wheels were turning, like.
[35:52] Speaker 3: He's younger than my oldest son, okay, because she thought
[35:56] Speaker 3: he was older. But she's kind of like it wasn't it.
[35:58] Speaker 3: It wasn't like a immediate I'm okay with that.
[36:01] Speaker 1: It was like processed. Yeah, we're poorhead didn't even tell
[36:05] Speaker 1: his girl he's got three kids. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's
[36:08] Speaker 1: where I left off. He has two kids, but he
[36:11] Speaker 1: hasn't told her. I'm like, okay, nobody needs to ask
[36:16] Speaker 1: you if you have children. I'm sorry she never asked.
[36:19] Speaker 1: You don't have to ask someone. That's just part of
[36:21] Speaker 1: conversation that comes up when you're getting to know someone.
[36:24] Speaker 1: She said, he said, and he said, I don't want
[36:27] Speaker 1: to have it outside of the marriage. That'd be a
[36:29] Speaker 1: great time to say I've had with my previous marriage. Yeah.
[36:35] Speaker 1: Like it was so gas lighty. I was just like, yeah,
[36:39] Speaker 1: so yeah, and that's where I'm at.
[36:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, same, that's where we're at too.
[36:43] Speaker 1: It's tough and and like there's nothing else to watch
[36:50] Speaker 1: right now because we finished the UK Traders and like
[36:53] Speaker 1: Love Island doesn't start till June. Like I've got nothing
[36:56] Speaker 1: to like quench my appetite.
[36:58] Speaker 2: I started Love is Blind UK.
[37:01] Speaker 1: Wow, that's a path I don't think I can. Oh,
[37:05] Speaker 1: you have boundaries for that. I can only do Love
[37:11] Speaker 1: Island both ways global global and Traders global. I can't
[37:16] Speaker 1: do multiple more than two.
[37:18] Speaker 3: Well, if your moral dilemma is so strong that you
[37:20] Speaker 3: can't watch Age of Attraction, then maybe you can open
[37:23] Speaker 3: your open your world to.
[37:28] Speaker 1: We started extract. Have you heard of it? No?
[37:31] Speaker 4: Oh wait, it's like they're like stuck in the middle
[37:33] Speaker 4: of yeah.
[37:34] Speaker 1: Themselves and their families like watching and monitoring them, and
[37:37] Speaker 1: they can like send them supplies and stuff. Yeah, that's
[37:40] Speaker 1: desperate times.
[37:43] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[37:43] Speaker 1: But oh and you know what other show we're watching
[37:45] Speaker 1: is The Dean The Dean Bachelor mansion flip show. Yes,
[37:52] Speaker 1: although it's once a week and it's one episode a week,
[37:54] Speaker 1: so I'm like, hello.
[37:56] Speaker 3: Wait, there was something so funny about Dean having immunity
[38:00] Speaker 3: and leading them to that god awful blue ceiling and
[38:03] Speaker 3: bad idea. The idea could have worked, but the linen,
[38:08] Speaker 3: the linens and everything nothing work.
[38:09] Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, I agree. The linens were a bad joy.
[38:12] Speaker 3: Like He's such a little turn like leading them through
[38:15] Speaker 3: and being like, well if they get if they don't
[38:17] Speaker 3: like it, it's not on me.
[38:19] Speaker 1: I like the idea. I just think the blue they
[38:21] Speaker 1: chose was a little toy story. I feel like it
[38:23] Speaker 1: could have been like a softer blue.
[38:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, in different linens. It could have been all white
[38:27] Speaker 3: if they wanted to make it more meekly.
[38:28] Speaker 1: Let me be honest. I'm not one to give my
[38:31] Speaker 1: opinion about interior decorating. It's not my forte so I'm
[38:34] Speaker 1: not here to judge. No, but you know what looks good?
[38:37] Speaker 3: Yes?
[38:38] Speaker 1: Yes, but I was excited about the Santorini room, like
[38:40] Speaker 1: I thought it was like and the other room I
[38:41] Speaker 1: thought was beautiful. My god, I was like, got robbed
[38:44] Speaker 1: from that wind. To be honest, the girl's room looked
[38:46] Speaker 1: like a giant cluster. I was like, I would have
[38:49] Speaker 1: anxiety if I lived in this room.
[38:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, some really strong personalities. I was like intimidated watching you.
[38:56] Speaker 1: I don't enjoy though, what let's.
[38:58] Speaker 2: Talk about it when we come back.
[39:16] Speaker 3: We're back, yah, scare of me? I want to expected now, okay,
[39:24] Speaker 3: so what what is something you can't say?
[39:28] Speaker 1: Oh? And this is just a food for thought for
[39:31] Speaker 1: my HG TV people that work you know, I love
[39:34] Speaker 1: I love criticizing shows, although I have zero a legs
[39:39] Speaker 1: to stand on when it comes to this stuff. I
[39:42] Speaker 1: don't like that their peers are the ones judging them, Like,
[39:46] Speaker 1: who are Tasha and Tyler to tell Dean what's better?
[39:49] Speaker 1: Do you know?
[39:49] Speaker 2: What I mean is in that industry, but I don't
[39:51] Speaker 2: know indeed.
[39:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, and so was that other chick I don't know
[39:56] Speaker 1: her name.
[39:56] Speaker 2: But wouldn't you want someone who's in the industry to judge.
[40:00] Speaker 1: Not my peers? Like it would be like, let's say
[40:03] Speaker 1: you and I go. You're saying, like you and I
[40:05] Speaker 1: go to on a cooking show, we're on Next Level Chef,
[40:07] Speaker 1: and you're judging my meals. I'd be like, who are
[40:10] Speaker 1: you to judge my meals? Do you know what I mean?
[40:12] Speaker 4: You think they should have like real contractors there as
[40:15] Speaker 4: opposed to Chip.
[40:17] Speaker 1: And Joe in a game yea, or like the judges
[40:19] Speaker 1: y or like like they had Christina Hawk Hack. I
[40:21] Speaker 1: don't know how I think it's Hawk come in to
[40:24] Speaker 1: judge one of them like that. I like that, like
[40:27] Speaker 1: bring in like these these like.
[40:29] Speaker 2: People that are from other like renovation shows.
[40:32] Speaker 1: Yes, Like I don't like that. It's I don't like that.
[40:34] Speaker 1: It's like they're peers because they're saying relationships there. Yeah,
[40:38] Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel equal, and I don't like that.
[40:41] Speaker 4: We're recapping in on the almost famous podcast The Bend
[40:43] Speaker 4: in Ashley Hye and another iHeartRadio podcast and a complaint
[40:47] Speaker 4: they have is the.
[40:48] Speaker 1: Contest scrubbing in on other podcasts.
[40:51] Speaker 4: Tanya, non stop. That is all anyone asks me about,
[40:54] Speaker 4: is scrubbing in. I plug it constantly. Anyone out there
[40:58] Speaker 4: who listens to uh, Stars Hollow Style, are you a Charlotte?
[41:04] Speaker 2: I think Stars Hollow Style are all.
[41:07] Speaker 4: Scrubbers, entirely scrubbers listening.
[41:10] Speaker 1: I just want to make sure because you and Mark
[41:12] Speaker 1: are always plugging these other podcasts.
[41:14] Speaker 4: You know, Hey, how about this, how about an anti plug?
[41:15] Speaker 4: Don't download the Ben and Ashley I they're fine, they're fine,
[41:21] Speaker 4: but they don't like the other contestants being able to
[41:24] Speaker 4: eliminate each other like that elimination at the end.
[41:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, that's very survivor vibes.
[41:29] Speaker 2: I don't like that either.
[41:30] Speaker 3: I wish that Tasa, Tayshia and Tyler voted or whoever
[41:34] Speaker 3: the judge was vouting.
[41:36] Speaker 4: What are the judges doing then? Yeah?
[41:38] Speaker 2: If not for that, literally, that's what I was trying
[41:40] Speaker 2: to figure.
[41:40] Speaker 3: I'm like, why are they the judges if they don't
[41:42] Speaker 3: have a say in who's staying or going?
[41:44] Speaker 1: Do though? Because they pick the winning team so those
[41:46] Speaker 1: people are safe, so they kind of do.
[41:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, at the end of
[41:50] Speaker 3: the day, it's like, why not have the guest judge
[41:52] Speaker 3: be like, this is who I would vote off?
[41:53] Speaker 1: This is It's very Survivor, which we loved, which I love,
[41:57] Speaker 1: so like I'm here for the self eliminating each other.
[42:04] Speaker 4: It's hurt.
[42:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just don't like that the peers are judging,
[42:09] Speaker 1: like it's really bothering me. It's season one.
[42:11] Speaker 3: You know, maybe they'll get in a groove and and
[42:15] Speaker 3: maybe that'll be the complaint from other viewers.
[42:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll listen to I would just like non bias judges.
[42:24] Speaker 4: What do you do for season two? Do you re
[42:26] Speaker 4: uh you renovate?
[42:29] Speaker 6: Yes?
[42:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that place. Hello, I know it's intomb
[42:35] Speaker 4: now it was in Mexico.
[42:37] Speaker 3: Uh no, it's in Costa Rican now.
[42:41] Speaker 4: It's in Costa Rica now. Yes, but before it was
[42:43] Speaker 4: at the same hotel for years.
[42:45] Speaker 1: It was right next to where you got married.
[42:46] Speaker 4: And yes, yes, I was what.
[42:49] Speaker 1: I think it was to Loom.
[42:51] Speaker 2: I don't know if they ever did it, Tom, but yeah,
[42:53] Speaker 2: they could renovate that.
[42:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean what else did you do?
[42:55] Speaker 1: You're right after the season, like, what else is there?
[42:57] Speaker 1: But I guess they could.
[42:58] Speaker 2: Do it, like to flip homes.
[43:00] Speaker 3: Think of just buy a flip home and bring a
[43:01] Speaker 3: bunch of bachelor people to someone who just bought a
[43:05] Speaker 3: home and is wanting.
[43:06] Speaker 1: To flip it.
[43:06] Speaker 2: Would die to just be like, here, give.
[43:08] Speaker 1: It to a show. We're a bachelor contestant. Yes, recognis
[43:12] Speaker 1: renovate my home, risky risky. Yeah, we're enjoying it too.
[43:19] Speaker 1: I just like seeing I love Dean. I just like
[43:22] Speaker 1: to see Dean on my ID to we like text
[43:27] Speaker 1: him while we're watching. We're in like a group chat
[43:29] Speaker 1: and you know, like Rob and I just kind of
[43:31] Speaker 1: like and I was like, are you do you enjoy
[43:35] Speaker 1: these text or do they bother you? He's like no,
[43:36] Speaker 1: I like him, Like, okay, very self aware of these days.
[43:40] Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. Thank you.
[43:42] Speaker 3: We when we talked to Jessica on our episode last week,
[43:45] Speaker 3: we hadn't seen the reunion yet, so I just want
[43:48] Speaker 3: to discuss some of the highlights because okay, this is
[43:51] Speaker 3: all yeah, love his fun.
[43:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, gearing shifts, shifting gears well still reality TV. Yeah,
[43:58] Speaker 1: that's why I brought it up.
[44:01] Speaker 3: Okay, this is the tenth season of Love Is Blind, right, Yes,
[44:06] Speaker 3: why on a reunion show.
[44:08] Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say, are we.
[44:11] Speaker 3: Why does it feel like it's season one? Like they're
[44:14] Speaker 3: like just getting started. It's like, why are we panning
[44:18] Speaker 3: to the audience?
[44:19] Speaker 1: Wait?
[44:19] Speaker 3: There was so much to disc I get it if
[44:21] Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of juiciness going on this season,
[44:24] Speaker 3: but it was like it.
[44:25] Speaker 1: Was jam packed juice, like they had enough juice to
[44:28] Speaker 1: discover two hours of footage. Yes, I agree with you.
[44:33] Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't need the Q and A for
[44:36] Speaker 1: I was like having to like squint my eyes even
[44:39] Speaker 1: like know who these people were, because every time I
[44:41] Speaker 1: watch a season, it's like in my head and then gone,
[44:44] Speaker 1: Like they're just like gone, And if I want to
[44:46] Speaker 1: keep up with them, I'll follow them on Instagram like
[44:48] Speaker 1: any normal human like stock them on Instagram. I don't
[44:50] Speaker 1: need you wasting precious airtime on my season ten reunion.
[44:54] Speaker 9: With season five or like, yeah, a gender reveal with
[44:58] Speaker 9: the posture, so it was like not appropriate, Yeah, it
[45:05] Speaker 9: is so okay.
[45:08] Speaker 3: There there was a dilemma because when we talked to Jessica,
[45:10] Speaker 3: she was like, we're all the girls are close, So
[45:12] Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be very like girls girls girls,
[45:16] Speaker 3: and there's clearly a divide, but.
[45:19] Speaker 1: I can't decide who's in the divide.
[45:21] Speaker 3: Well, it's Pre and then Pre who wasn't we never
[45:25] Speaker 3: saw really she didn't have a story. And Ashley Yeah,
[45:29] Speaker 3: and then Brittany, Jessica, Amber and Emma Oh really okay.
[45:35] Speaker 1: I felt like Amber was kind of I think Amber
[45:39] Speaker 1: is floating amongst uh yeah.
[45:42] Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, stands, but I have a few
[45:47] Speaker 2: things to say.
[45:49] Speaker 3: When Amber stormed off the stage, I don't know if it.
[45:52] Speaker 1: Was edited to where it felt that abrupt, but I
[45:54] Speaker 1: was like, whoa.
[45:55] Speaker 3: We went from like zero to a thousand and she
[45:57] Speaker 3: was gone, Like okay, sire. Why wasn't anyone questioning Breemore?
[46:04] Speaker 3: I feel like barely no one was like to question
[46:08] Speaker 3: her her really her conversation with Chris that much. They
[46:11] Speaker 3: didn't really question her conversation.
[46:13] Speaker 1: With contrast breaking off Breezy Eazy Breezy.
[46:17] Speaker 3: The after effects have been tough, Like everyone needs to
[46:20] Speaker 3: remember these people are humans. They did sign up for
[46:23] Speaker 3: a TV show, But like as someone who's been on
[46:26] Speaker 3: a TV show, you don't realize how much of an
[46:28] Speaker 3: opinion people are going to have on your decisions or
[46:31] Speaker 3: how it's going to be edited until you do, and
[46:33] Speaker 3: it's it's a lot, so you know you can be
[46:38] Speaker 3: question someone's uh choice.
[46:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I honestly had a little bit of
[46:42] Speaker 1: an issue with the way, like I actually like Nick
[46:44] Speaker 1: and Vanessa. I like them as hosts, and I think
[46:46] Speaker 1: they usually do a pretty good job. But this reunion
[46:49] Speaker 1: I felt like they were really condemning people in a
[46:53] Speaker 1: way that like.
[46:56] Speaker 2: I don't know, like you need to get therapy, and
[46:58] Speaker 2: it's like I don't know that you're.
[47:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it just felt very like look like like
[47:04] Speaker 1: you said, everybody is coming in at these people, like
[47:07] Speaker 1: especially what's his name, Chris, the guy like obviously we
[47:10] Speaker 1: all hate him and he said and did horrible things,
[47:13] Speaker 1: but like the way that he was treated, the way
[47:16] Speaker 1: he was spoken to at the reunion to me was
[47:18] Speaker 1: just like that's not your place as a host, do
[47:21] Speaker 1: you know what I mean? To like condemn and like
[47:25] Speaker 1: we've all made mistakes. If if we'd filmed all of
[47:27] Speaker 1: our lives, like I'm sure a lot of us have
[47:29] Speaker 1: said and done horrible things that we're not even aware of,
[47:32] Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's just like
[47:33] Speaker 1: I think the way it was handled, which is like
[47:35] Speaker 1: a little bit too like aggressive in that way, which
[47:39] Speaker 1: like rubbed me wrong a little bit.
[47:40] Speaker 3: Well, you also have to think about people's mental health,
[47:43] Speaker 3: like these are human beings, and like he's on this
[47:45] Speaker 3: not like international stage that people are watching.
[47:48] Speaker 1: From all over the world, and it's to edit it.
[47:50] Speaker 3: Like that's not a live reunion so anything. Even if
[47:54] Speaker 3: they asked him a question, he didn't give them anything.
[47:56] Speaker 3: They could have just cut it out and not even
[47:57] Speaker 3: addressed him.
[47:58] Speaker 8: You know.
[47:59] Speaker 3: Yeah, I just felt like at a certain point, it's
[48:02] Speaker 3: like he did and said some horrible things, and I
[48:04] Speaker 3: hope that he's looking inward and reflecting on that after
[48:07] Speaker 3: seeing it on TV. But I don't think it's someone's
[48:09] Speaker 3: place to criticize or condemn to the point where you go, like,
[48:13] Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't harm himself, and that's like a reality.
[48:16] Speaker 1: Of yeah, Like I honestly think he was like on
[48:18] Speaker 1: Beta Blockers, like he did not he looked like he
[48:20] Speaker 1: was out to lunch that whole reunion, like he was
[48:22] Speaker 1: just like there but like not there.
[48:25] Speaker 3: I saw Vic say that that he was like where
[48:28] Speaker 3: he's like listen, you know, it's one thing holding people
[48:31] Speaker 3: accountable for their actions It's another thing like thinking about
[48:33] Speaker 3: people's mental health and like what they're going to do,
[48:37] Speaker 3: you know, outside of being on this public stage.
[48:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
[48:44] Speaker 3: I was shocked to see, well Jessica made it seem
[48:46] Speaker 3: like Amber and Jordan were still together.
[48:48] Speaker 1: Yes, and I was I was devastated with that.
[48:53] Speaker 3: You were like, yes, I was only worried about them,
[48:55] Speaker 3: and I'm glad they're still.
[48:57] Speaker 1: To King and Queen And now like that, it shattered me.
[49:01] Speaker 1: They couldn't be more not together, couldn't be couldn't be
[49:04] Speaker 1: further apart, couldn't be further apart. I'm like, on both
[49:07] Speaker 1: of their sides.
[49:08] Speaker 2: They just were not right for each other.
[49:10] Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, And and also like I want to say,
[49:14] Speaker 1: like she she was like, you don't do that. You
[49:16] Speaker 1: don't make that promise with somebody that has a kid,
[49:19] Speaker 1: as someone who dated somebody that had a kid, Like
[49:22] Speaker 1: you really don't know what it's like until you're in it,
[49:25] Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, you can't predict,
[49:28] Speaker 1: you can't make like a commitment until you Like again,
[49:32] Speaker 1: they're on a TV show and they have a limited
[49:33] Speaker 1: amount of time, so it's like it's a totally different situation.
[49:36] Speaker 1: But like you can't make these promises and until you're
[49:39] Speaker 1: in it and you like live life with these kids
[49:42] Speaker 1: in this as a family, do you know, Like that's
[49:44] Speaker 1: when you really experience it. And so like I was like,
[49:46] Speaker 1: she's kind of throwing it in his face that he
[49:48] Speaker 1: did something like nasty to her child when I don't
[49:51] Speaker 1: think that was his intention at all, not at all. Yeah, yeah,
[49:54] Speaker 1: I just think like the two like even said, like
[49:57] Speaker 1: the two of them didn't get along, had nothing to
[49:58] Speaker 1: do with for having a kid. But yeah, the and
[50:02] Speaker 1: then did we not learn anything from the reunion with
[50:06] Speaker 1: the basketball hoops? I'm like, why are we watching Devonte
[50:11] Speaker 1: and oh Alex Alex shoots soccer balls at each other?
[50:16] Speaker 3: Why are they living together when his pregnant fiance lives
[50:19] Speaker 3: in Ohio.
[50:21] Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to Why are we watching them
[50:23] Speaker 1: for soccer shoot out like on the reunion? And then
[50:26] Speaker 1: what's this musical guest Like, oh.
[50:30] Speaker 2: My god, it was a minute? What are we doing?
[50:33] Speaker 2: They they It's there's been too many seasons to excuse it.
[50:37] Speaker 1: Like I as an avid TV watcher, I would just
[50:40] Speaker 1: like to be a consultant on the I will give
[50:42] Speaker 1: my advice for free because I do like that they
[50:46] Speaker 1: have the old contestants back in the audience. I do
[50:48] Speaker 1: feel like it. It makes them probably feel more comfortable
[50:52] Speaker 1: instead of having like, you know, strangers that they you know, like,
[50:56] Speaker 1: they have their peers there and it's not as like intimidating. Maybe,
[50:58] Speaker 1: so I like having them as guests audience. Do we
[51:02] Speaker 1: need an audience though? Oh? I just don't need questions
[51:07] Speaker 1: from them or like moments with them.
[51:08] Speaker 5: You know.
[51:09] Speaker 3: But someone someone like posted photos from like them being
[51:14] Speaker 3: in the green rooms and backstage or whatever, and they're
[51:17] Speaker 3: like eating pizza and they have like chips and snacks
[51:20] Speaker 3: on paper plates, and everyone's like, so you're gonna give
[51:24] Speaker 3: them like a black tie event and show for them
[51:26] Speaker 3: to get all styled for and you're gonna serve them
[51:28] Speaker 3: pizza on a paper.
[51:29] Speaker 2: Plate with sodas and chips.
[51:32] Speaker 1: You know what? No, No, they're budgets too big for that,
[51:36] Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, take the money that you paid for
[51:38] Speaker 1: your musical guests and give them some well what should
[51:42] Speaker 1: they give them? Filet mignon?
[51:44] Speaker 3: Maybe just sit down dinner and like sat the table
[51:47] Speaker 3: and a chicken, a chicken breast at the very least
[51:50] Speaker 3: on some china or so they have.
[51:54] Speaker 1: Some good looking plastic silverware. Now we can do better.
[52:00] Speaker 1: I set up a tablescape with Amazon plus. D oh
[52:04] Speaker 1: me too, stunning, stunning. That is so funny, I have
[52:11] Speaker 1: It's funny that. Okay, So peeling back the curtain, feel
[52:15] Speaker 1: feel back on how we did the podcast. But we
[52:17] Speaker 1: interviewed jess that Tuesday, which is why Becka said we
[52:20] Speaker 1: hadn't watched the reunion. They didn't give it to us,
[52:22] Speaker 1: but they basically told us, well, we thought, yeah, there
[52:26] Speaker 1: are some things that were wrong, however whatever, but uh
[52:31] Speaker 1: so we were told that we couldn't air Jessica until today,
[52:35] Speaker 1: this is the following Monday, and which is a bummer
[52:39] Speaker 1: because I do feel like now that we're talking about it,
[52:41] Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like the reunion was is so
[52:43] Speaker 1: old at this point.
[52:44] Speaker 2: I still see people talking about it, which is why
[52:46] Speaker 2: I brought it up.
[52:47] Speaker 1: So but I'm so glad because me Tanya, sitting in
[52:51] Speaker 1: my bed, I'm scrolling, scrolling, and I'm seeing all these
[52:54] Speaker 1: Love is blind people doing podcasts. So I'm like, poke,
[52:57] Speaker 1: poke to our producers, Look what's happening. All the people
[53:00] Speaker 1: are talking like why are we embargoed until Monday? So
[53:03] Speaker 1: then we got to the bottom of it. It was
[53:05] Speaker 1: just Jessica and her new boyfriend was the embargo until Monday.
[53:10] Speaker 1: But Jessica herself we could unleash. So we unleashed her
[53:15] Speaker 1: her episode, her episode last week, and we held on
[53:17] Speaker 1: to the embargoed part of the interview, which was her
[53:20] Speaker 1: and Harmal Harmle together on the podcast. Yeah, but I
[53:25] Speaker 1: felt really like proud of myself for like getting in there.
[53:28] Speaker 2: Proud of you because you were relentless.
[53:30] Speaker 1: I was like, Tanya's texting the group toad again, what
[53:33] Speaker 1: is she sending? And it's like another kept sending that
[53:36] Speaker 1: more interviews, this person's on this podcast, this person's on that.
[53:39] Speaker 1: I was like, why is ours held till Monday. I
[53:41] Speaker 1: just didn't appreciate that we were being held to a
[53:43] Speaker 1: different standard than other podcasts.
[53:45] Speaker 3: And I agree, Oh, we weren't a bunch of taste
[53:49] Speaker 3: back responses so much.
[53:51] Speaker 1: I take that. What why?
[53:53] Speaker 3: I forgot about the taste back of it all? And
[53:55] Speaker 3: I got so many messages. I was like, oh my god,
[53:57] Speaker 3: I forgot this is what we said, tory.
[54:00] Speaker 1: So many taste back messages so real validated in my theory,
[54:05] Speaker 1: well our theory. What was your theory that people listen
[54:08] Speaker 1: in twenty minute increments, but they come back to finish
[54:10] Speaker 1: the episode. So like us doing shorter episodes, wasn't behooving
[54:14] Speaker 1: our listeners longer. Yes, it wasn't behooving anyone because we
[54:17] Speaker 1: were like, oh, if they're only listening for twenty minutes,
[54:18] Speaker 1: then we're not listening to forty minutes. But no, they're
[54:22] Speaker 1: listening in increments of twenty minutes but coming back to
[54:25] Speaker 1: finish episode.
[54:27] Speaker 3: So we won't be doing twenty minute episodes. Don't worry.
[54:31] Speaker 3: They won't be getting shorter.
[54:32] Speaker 1: No, and we care getting longer as the days get longer.
[54:36] Speaker 3: And the days are getting longer and warmer and warmer.
[54:39] Speaker 3: So well, so should we release the harmle the Harmor files.
[54:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, just harb Yeah yeah, So we're going to tack
[54:47] Speaker 1: on our Jessica and Harmal portion of our interview to
[54:51] Speaker 1: the end of this episode for your enjoyment. Please listen
[54:55] Speaker 1: to it and give us your feedback. Yeah, let us
[54:58] Speaker 1: know what.
[54:59] Speaker 3: You think about this new couple and we'll be back
[55:05] Speaker 3: on Thursday with the dear Boy. Yeah, and something very
[55:12] Speaker 3: important is happening this weekend.
[55:13] Speaker 4: That's right, The East Awards are this weekend Saturday the
[55:16] Speaker 4: twenty first, and if you're not in LA, you can
[55:18] Speaker 4: watch it on a stream Eastwards dot com. You can
[55:21] Speaker 4: get your tickets. It's a lot of fun. It's got
[55:24] Speaker 4: a lot of crazy stuff happening. I have definitely over
[55:27] Speaker 4: extended myself with a lot of moving parts. It will
[55:30] Speaker 4: be very funny to see how it all crashes down
[55:32] Speaker 4: on me. But I wanted to say I put I
[55:35] Speaker 4: put taste back in the show. It's hidden. If you
[55:39] Speaker 4: watch the Eastwards, there will be Taste Back hidden somewhere.
[55:43] Speaker 1: The words are words, not the song.
[55:46] Speaker 4: I don't know the rights to that. You kidding me?
[55:48] Speaker 4: The words taste back, the words tasteback or in the show,
[55:53] Speaker 4: And if you DM me where that you saw it,
[55:57] Speaker 4: I'll send you an ecwords hat or something. I don't know.
[56:00] Speaker 3: But yeah, you've really up to the east Awards from
[56:03] Speaker 3: like significantly this year.
[56:05] Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's at the Allegian Theater. If you're in
[56:07] Speaker 4: l A and they are as of this recording, there
[56:09] Speaker 4: are still tickets available and it's gonna be a lot
[56:11] Speaker 4: of fun, you guys. So yeah, I'll see it on
[56:14] Speaker 4: the twenty first, Right, you're talking about this on Thursday.
[56:18] Speaker 4: We will not mention these awards on Thursday.
[56:20] Speaker 3: No, No, this is your this is your heads upwards.
[56:24] Speaker 2: Yeah and following easton on.
[56:26] Speaker 4: Oh yeah at Eastern follow me.
[56:28] Speaker 6: Come on, I need this.
[56:31] Speaker 2: We love y'all so much.
[56:33] Speaker 1: Love you don't enjoy Jessica and Harmel.
[56:36] Speaker 7: Please enjoy.
[56:53] Speaker 1: Everyone.
[56:54] Speaker 2: Harmel has joined us. They're very cute. They're smiling and
[57:05] Speaker 2: staring at each other.
[57:08] Speaker 1: So we got a little bit of the rundown of
[57:11] Speaker 1: kind of you were in the pods you left because
[57:15] Speaker 1: it was just like overwhelming, which I actually could under
[57:17] Speaker 1: I can understand. Yeah, just not even having my phone
[57:20] Speaker 1: or a computer for like days on end, Well, huh
[57:23] Speaker 1: make me in my head too much? I think, Yeah, I.
[57:25] Speaker 6: Know for sure. I think.
[57:26] Speaker 5: I think for me, I had like a I was saying,
[57:29] Speaker 5: somewhat of a unique mindset going in. I think like
[57:32] Speaker 5: coming in, I was very conscious of like whatever I
[57:34] Speaker 5: say or do on TV, the Brown people don't get
[57:37] Speaker 5: like screen time very much, and so I felt like
[57:39] Speaker 5: I was representing like my family and my culture and
[57:41] Speaker 5: all these things, and so not that I was like
[57:43] Speaker 5: walk on eggshells, but.
[57:44] Speaker 6: I was very very aware of whatever.
[57:47] Speaker 5: My pursuit is, which was Jess, But like, whatever I
[57:51] Speaker 5: decide I want to chase after that, there are more
[57:53] Speaker 5: consequences than just me, and so I like I think
[57:56] Speaker 5: sometimes people forget that, and I just was very aware
[57:59] Speaker 5: of that early on.
[58:00] Speaker 1: What's your background, Like where your parents from?
[58:02] Speaker 5: So my parents are from Punjab, which is northwest India, Okay,
[58:05] Speaker 5: So like they moved here as immigrants, and like they
[58:06] Speaker 5: just like the amount of sacrifice they had for me
[58:08] Speaker 5: and my brother and stuff like that is not something
[58:10] Speaker 5: I take for granted in anyway. And so like I
[58:13] Speaker 5: like really really care about That's like the cultural thing,
[58:15] Speaker 5: the heritage thing, is like very important to me.
[58:17] Speaker 6: And so I walked in with that understanding.
[58:19] Speaker 5: I was like, I want to be the best version
[58:20] Speaker 5: of myself, not to reflect on me, but my parents
[58:22] Speaker 5: and like my family and like my culture and stuff
[58:24] Speaker 5: and so and so I walked in with that and
[58:27] Speaker 5: one part of that was just like making sure I'm
[58:30] Speaker 5: doing this for the right reasons. And I actually never
[58:34] Speaker 5: wanted to be on the show. Like they reached out
[58:35] Speaker 5: and they were very persistent, they were very they were
[58:40] Speaker 5: very persistent, and eventually I was like, Okay, let's go
[58:41] Speaker 5: ahead and do this thing because I've like, I don't
[58:43] Speaker 5: really watch much reality TV, but I've seen like The
[58:46] Speaker 5: bacheloun of The Bachelorette, and it bothers me because, like
[58:50] Speaker 5: people say, it's like you know, scripted or something, but
[58:53] Speaker 5: it's like watching people get their hearts broken and people
[58:56] Speaker 5: just like it's like something to consume on TV.
[58:58] Speaker 6: It bothers me so much and so I have a
[59:00] Speaker 6: hard time watching them.
[59:01] Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know if I can be involved
[59:02] Speaker 5: in something like that, but they're like just like watch
[59:03] Speaker 5: a season and I watched one of the early I
[59:05] Speaker 5: was like, Okay, this is like something maybe we can
[59:07] Speaker 5: do in a safe way that people aren't.
[59:08] Speaker 6: Gonna get hurt.
[59:09] Speaker 5: And so I think like as it went on, it
[59:11] Speaker 5: was like so good when I first got in my element,
[59:14] Speaker 5: I love talking about this stuff, like it's so great
[59:16] Speaker 5: connecting with people.
[59:17] Speaker 6: Uh.
[59:18] Speaker 5: And then once it got towards the end, it got
[59:19] Speaker 5: like very very real and not in a bad way,
[59:23] Speaker 5: but in a way where I was like I just
[59:24] Speaker 5: started feeling like, man, people are gonna get hurt. Like
[59:27] Speaker 5: whether it's like I'm okay with getting hurt, I'm fine,
[59:29] Speaker 5: I can deal with that, but to be the cast,
[59:31] Speaker 5: like the pain for somebody else and uh so what
[59:35] Speaker 5: like just the only reason I was even there, Like
[59:38] Speaker 5: I like when we watched into the pods, like I
[59:41] Speaker 5: didn't expect to really meet anybody. I expect to connect
[59:43] Speaker 5: to people, but like it was just like we the
[59:45] Speaker 5: number of things that happened, and I wish we could
[59:47] Speaker 5: watch it back because it was like.
[59:49] Speaker 6: Lightning moments.
[59:50] Speaker 1: Have you asked them for the footage?
[59:53] Speaker 6: Not yet.
[59:53] Speaker 10: We haven't directly asked, though.
[59:55] Speaker 5: We need the public to get involved.
[59:59] Speaker 1: I think they should, even if they don't even release
[1:00:01] Speaker 1: it on like on Netflix, they should release it on
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: like their Instagram and stuff so that people can see, Like,
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: we want to see how you guys met, Like the
[1:00:10] Speaker 1: talk about Gusher.
[1:00:12] Speaker 3: I first of all, love what you said about your
[1:00:14] Speaker 3: representation in Brown.
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: That is not something you hear a lot about.
[1:00:18] Speaker 3: Even if it's something that people are processing, it's not
[1:00:20] Speaker 3: something people talk about.
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: So I think that's such an important conversation. I want
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: to know.
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: So y'all met, it was electric of course when you left.
[1:00:31] Speaker 3: I mean, do you think if you hadn't left, would
[1:00:34] Speaker 3: y'all have had that the.
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: Moment of choosing each other and the doors opening?
[1:00:39] Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, Honestly, I think there's a there's a duality
[1:00:42] Speaker 5: to everything is Like, I think sometimes people use these
[1:00:44] Speaker 5: phrases that kind of exempts them from responsibility. So for example,
[1:00:49] Speaker 5: like like the universe has a plan, like God has
[1:00:51] Speaker 5: a plan, a plant like everything, and I believe that
[1:00:54] Speaker 5: to my core, I believe like everything happens for a reason.
[1:00:57] Speaker 5: But sometimes people use this escapism. We're like, oh my God,
[1:00:59] Speaker 5: like everything happens for a reason. And then but you
[1:01:02] Speaker 5: have to meet it, you know, like if like if
[1:01:05] Speaker 5: everything is in front of you on a silver platter
[1:01:07] Speaker 5: and you're afraid because something bad is gonna happen and
[1:01:09] Speaker 5: you don't meet it. Yeah, like people, the good things
[1:01:12] Speaker 5: don't happen if you're just stuck in your house the
[1:01:14] Speaker 5: entire time.
[1:01:14] Speaker 6: So I think there's like a two version of that one.
[1:01:16] Speaker 6: It's like like.
[1:01:17] Speaker 5: Look at where we are right now, and this is
[1:01:19] Speaker 5: amazing and I love it, And then I also look
[1:01:21] Speaker 5: back and I'm like, yeah, do there's some level of
[1:01:24] Speaker 5: responsibility of being like yeah, dude, that if they put
[1:01:26] Speaker 5: everything in front of you, everything was right there, you
[1:01:28] Speaker 5: had the moment you had everything, and you just didn't
[1:01:30] Speaker 5: like do it?
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: Do you guys?
[1:01:33] Speaker 6: What emotional about this stuff? Man?
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: Sign?
[1:01:37] Speaker 6: Oh what do you think my sign is?
[1:01:38] Speaker 3: We talked about this, so Tanya, I act like she's
[1:01:42] Speaker 3: gonna be able to guess everyone's signing.
[1:01:44] Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, are you I've heard pisces before. Now
[1:01:50] Speaker 6: I'm the cancer. I've heard cancer before. My mom is
[1:01:52] Speaker 6: a cancer, so probably.
[1:01:52] Speaker 5: A lot of my mom.
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: Scorpio No, not a scorpio.
[1:01:55] Speaker 6: No, keep going, keep going, keep going. This is great.
[1:01:57] Speaker 2: That's Oh my.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: God, I thought a sign because you're emotional.
[1:02:01] Speaker 6: I am very emotional. Le No, I'm not too.
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: You're not a Gemini.
[1:02:07] Speaker 6: No, I'm not a Gemini.
[1:02:09] Speaker 1: Hilarious sad, sad hilarious.
[1:02:11] Speaker 4: No not.
[1:02:12] Speaker 5: Aquarius's fantastic a libra No, I'm not a libra.
[1:02:17] Speaker 6: Virgo virgo. Wow.
[1:02:20] Speaker 5: Something that makes me feel really good about that is
[1:02:23] Speaker 5: those like things when you fall into a category where
[1:02:25] Speaker 5: it's like, oh, I know what you are.
[1:02:27] Speaker 6: The fact that you came up with like eight different things.
[1:02:29] Speaker 5: I think that's the best part about humans is like
[1:02:31] Speaker 5: it's so the more complex you are, the more parts
[1:02:34] Speaker 5: you have to yourself where it's like, dude, what is
[1:02:35] Speaker 5: this thing that's in front of me? Like I think
[1:02:37] Speaker 5: everybody has that in them and it's just like, I
[1:02:39] Speaker 5: don't know that makes that made me feel really good
[1:02:41] Speaker 5: that you can pin me.
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: Down with the sign.
[1:02:47] Speaker 11: Dang, my senses are also is your your mentality is
[1:02:50] Speaker 11: kind of like, Okay, I I went what was supposed
[1:02:53] Speaker 11: to happen, I was I was supposed to talk to
[1:02:56] Speaker 11: Jess at the very leak, so I was supposed to
[1:02:57] Speaker 11: connect with her on some.
[1:02:58] Speaker 3: Level, but I had her like it was handed to me.
[1:03:02] Speaker 3: But I I walked out.
[1:03:04] Speaker 9: I did.
[1:03:05] Speaker 2: But because things work out how they're supposed.
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: To, we reconnected and here we are.
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of the mentality of you had to
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: make one step, which is to go on the show,
[1:03:18] Speaker 3: and that that was the one step that mattered.
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: Do you guys work at the same hospital, don't? Are
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: they close?
[1:03:24] Speaker 6: That would be a problem you.
[1:03:26] Speaker 2: Want to be a problem anatomy.
[1:03:29] Speaker 6: I can talk about it. For me, it would be
[1:03:31] Speaker 6: I would be very distracted.
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: But it's not like are they close by?
[1:03:39] Speaker 6: Not really?
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: No, But you guys have an understanding of like each
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: other's careers and lives that I think most people don't
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: really have if they're not like in it.
[1:03:47] Speaker 10: Yes, it makes it a lot easier.
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know.
[1:03:50] Speaker 3: Did you watch the scene heard around the world that
[1:03:54] Speaker 3: we all gathered around Jessica and collectively united on something.
[1:03:58] Speaker 6: Finally, Yeah, which is great.
[1:04:00] Speaker 1: Did you did you watch it?
[1:04:02] Speaker 6: I did?
[1:04:03] Speaker 5: I definitely, I definitely watched that. Yeah, not too First
[1:04:05] Speaker 5: of all, was it hard to watch?
[1:04:08] Speaker 6: It was? Uh? Yes, And there's so many layers to things,
[1:04:12] Speaker 6: you know.
[1:04:13] Speaker 5: I think that's the thing where will people watch people
[1:04:16] Speaker 5: on TV and it's just very quick to reduce something
[1:04:18] Speaker 5: to your initial reaction like oh, this is how people should.
[1:04:21] Speaker 6: Feel about it, and there's like so much complexity to it.
[1:04:23] Speaker 5: I think the one thing I felt the most was
[1:04:27] Speaker 5: just like I was very proud of her, Like it
[1:04:29] Speaker 5: was just like, dude, to be able to handle that
[1:04:32] Speaker 5: in that way they was talking about like like oh
[1:04:37] Speaker 5: my god, everyone knows gets their flowers, but like what
[1:04:38] Speaker 5: cemeteries is it built on? And it's like how much
[1:04:41] Speaker 5: have you had to go through to be able to
[1:04:42] Speaker 5: handle that in that moment? And it's like those layers
[1:04:45] Speaker 5: that like no one sees. It's like I was like
[1:04:48] Speaker 5: very proud of her.
[1:04:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
[1:04:50] Speaker 3: It was truly amazing, Like we were just we were
[1:04:54] Speaker 3: talking about it earlier that like her The way she
[1:05:01] Speaker 3: didn't even give him something to work to react to
[1:05:06] Speaker 3: was the most powerful.
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: I was like, that's someone.
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: Who knows their worth. Like that's what I took away
[1:05:11] Speaker 3: from it. I was like, Jessica knows who she is.
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: She didn't need him to say say anything that was
[1:05:17] Speaker 3: complimentary or try to go back.
[1:05:19] Speaker 2: She was like, I don't need to hear anything else
[1:05:22] Speaker 2: from you.
[1:05:22] Speaker 3: You've said enough. And that was like very impactful. I
[1:05:26] Speaker 3: hope that people watching were able to be like, Wow,
[1:05:28] Speaker 3: that is how I hope to react to someone who
[1:05:31] Speaker 3: ever treats me that way, if I'm ever in that situation.
[1:05:34] Speaker 1: It was amazing you get over there. Yeah.
[1:05:37] Speaker 5: I just want to say for people that don't react
[1:05:39] Speaker 5: like that, you know, like it's like some grace, you know,
[1:05:41] Speaker 5: it's like, I, how can you like that? We just
[1:05:46] Speaker 5: watched like the APEX version of that thing, where it's like,
[1:05:48] Speaker 5: how do you have like self respect? How do you
[1:05:51] Speaker 5: know your worth? How do you do it in real
[1:05:53] Speaker 5: time when someone's coming at you. That's a very different
[1:05:55] Speaker 5: situation than like on a quiet Sunday when you're like, yeh, dude,
[1:05:58] Speaker 5: you're doing your mantras, you're.
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: Talking about I just have to like I've been obviously
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: not in front of cameras and like not in front
[1:06:04] Speaker 1: of any of this stuff, not from a man like
[1:06:06] Speaker 1: I have been called like Chubby this uh Plaine Jane
[1:06:10] Speaker 1: Ugly like all, like from somebody that like and my
[1:06:13] Speaker 1: I did not react the way that you did. I
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: was just like so furious and so it's like to
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: be able to handle it the way that you did,
[1:06:21] Speaker 1: like really actually inspired me to just kind of like
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: be like Gray Rock. Yeah, Gray Rock, I've never heard
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: of that, but like yeah, it was really like it
[1:06:32] Speaker 1: was something that you should be really proud of.
[1:06:34] Speaker 10: They just don't deserve any bit of you.
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't. Yeah. So you what was the first date,
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: like when y'all reconnected, what was the first date, because.
[1:06:49] Speaker 10: I've been talking like.
[1:06:50] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the first day was like we
[1:06:54] Speaker 5: we ended up so we ended up going to like
[1:06:56] Speaker 5: a wine first of all, trying to pin her down
[1:06:58] Speaker 5: to be like, hey, can we just hang out?
[1:07:00] Speaker 6: Yeah?
[1:07:00] Speaker 3: We heard my god, we hear little confusion on where
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: the romance and friendship.
[1:07:07] Speaker 6: Well that's fair, that's fairs, And I hit out my
[1:07:13] Speaker 6: bros like that.
[1:07:16] Speaker 10: I realized that later.
[1:07:18] Speaker 5: So the first like that we finally Like it was
[1:07:19] Speaker 5: actually funny because like I was if I want, if
[1:07:22] Speaker 5: I want something or if I need, like it's like
[1:07:25] Speaker 5: I'm very persistent with it, like very persistent with it
[1:07:28] Speaker 5: until it's very natural, like until something changes, like okay,
[1:07:31] Speaker 5: like take a hit because I think another thing is
[1:07:33] Speaker 5: like I'm not trying to tell people like guys are like,
[1:07:35] Speaker 5: oh my god, keep.
[1:07:36] Speaker 6: Like try and keep trying.
[1:07:37] Speaker 5: It's dude, take a hint sometimes, but it's like if
[1:07:38] Speaker 5: something's really important, like also, don't go the other way.
[1:07:41] Speaker 5: I think there's a thing about like good guys and
[1:07:43] Speaker 5: bad guys to put that in air quotes, but it's
[1:07:45] Speaker 5: like I think good guys need to be more persistent
[1:07:47] Speaker 5: and do more good things. They need to show up
[1:07:49] Speaker 5: in spaces that they're like nervous about doing because they're like, oh,
[1:07:52] Speaker 5: maybe I'm being too much maybe on whatever. And then
[1:07:54] Speaker 5: all of a sudden, it's like all the bad guys
[1:07:55] Speaker 5: are doing the opposite where there's like really percent it's like,
[1:07:58] Speaker 5: dude to chill. And so I remember the first time
[1:08:01] Speaker 5: we finally like hung out. It was at a wine
[1:08:02] Speaker 5: bar and it was after I think it was after
[1:08:05] Speaker 5: work for you. I don't eve remember, but I was like, hey, listen,
[1:08:07] Speaker 5: don't evenet dressed up, just like we're sweats. Can we
[1:08:09] Speaker 5: just like hang out And she's like, yeah, let's do that.
[1:08:10] Speaker 5: And so we ended up going to the wine bar
[1:08:12] Speaker 5: and we spent the first couple of hours she was
[1:08:14] Speaker 5: like talking just catching up on all the like life stuff.
[1:08:16] Speaker 5: She's like, oh, like this was happening with Lyric and
[1:08:17] Speaker 5: that's whatever. I like talking about advice stuff, and the
[1:08:19] Speaker 5: whole time like I don't want to talk about this,
[1:08:21] Speaker 5: like I need see you to know like what I'm
[1:08:23] Speaker 5: here for, like very like I need you to know
[1:08:26] Speaker 5: what this is. This is not like hey, let's hang
[1:08:29] Speaker 5: out thing. Yeah, And so at some point it just
[1:08:31] Speaker 5: kind of flipped. I was like, hey, by the way,
[1:08:32] Speaker 5: I really really like you. And I showed her like
[1:08:35] Speaker 5: a I had this text that I hadn't sent where
[1:08:41] Speaker 5: I was like, hey, Jessica Barry, I would really really
[1:08:43] Speaker 5: really like take you on a date, and I just
[1:08:46] Speaker 5: like didn't send it and I was like holding on
[1:08:48] Speaker 5: to it for a while, and then we finally had
[1:08:50] Speaker 5: the had the date and I was like, here, I'm
[1:08:52] Speaker 5: just gonna put all of my cards in the middle
[1:08:54] Speaker 5: of the table, like here all the eggs in my basket.
[1:08:56] Speaker 5: He says, say how I operate. It's like I don't
[1:08:58] Speaker 5: half step. It's like, dude, if I'm doing something, I'm
[1:08:59] Speaker 5: doing Yeah. And so I remember I said that, and
[1:09:02] Speaker 5: she like, I think you.
[1:09:02] Speaker 6: Had like a panic attack. And basically I think you
[1:09:05] Speaker 6: had a panic attack. She was like, oh, man, like
[1:09:07] Speaker 6: I don't I'm not ready for this. I don't want
[1:09:08] Speaker 6: to She just straight up said, no, this is that
[1:09:11] Speaker 6: the wine bar. This is the wine bar.
[1:09:12] Speaker 5: She's like, I'm not ready, which which again talking about
[1:09:14] Speaker 5: like just respecting people in the space. It was like,
[1:09:16] Speaker 5: first of all, I was like, you know, leading up
[1:09:17] Speaker 5: into this, like we hadn't even started, like the and
[1:09:20] Speaker 5: like like her life was crazy, all things are happening.
[1:09:23] Speaker 5: So being able to take a step back and be like, yes,
[1:09:25] Speaker 5: I respect that. And so she wanted to be friends
[1:09:28] Speaker 5: for a while, and so I said, okay, let's be friends.
[1:09:30] Speaker 5: But I also don't text my friends forty times a day, right,
[1:09:34] Speaker 5: And so I'm a very emotional person, Like this means
[1:09:36] Speaker 5: a lot to me, Like I'm not talking.
[1:09:37] Speaker 6: To girls like this.
[1:09:38] Speaker 5: I don't do that, and you're the person that I'm like,
[1:09:41] Speaker 5: I don't have side stuff going on.
[1:09:43] Speaker 6: I'm like, you're just it.
[1:09:44] Speaker 5: And so we kept running into that problem where I
[1:09:47] Speaker 5: was like we would text, we would text, and then
[1:09:48] Speaker 5: I would be like, hey, I'm every text I send
[1:09:51] Speaker 5: you mean something.
[1:09:52] Speaker 6: It's not. I'm not being friends with you. I can't
[1:09:53] Speaker 6: do it. I feel like I'm living a lie. I
[1:09:55] Speaker 6: can't lie.
[1:09:56] Speaker 5: And so eventually came to a point I'm like, I
[1:09:58] Speaker 5: don't think I can do the friends thing again. And
[1:10:00] Speaker 5: I respect your space and I'm going to like really
[1:10:03] Speaker 5: mean that, like you take care of yourself, you do
[1:10:05] Speaker 5: your thing, but I can't be a friend to you.
[1:10:09] Speaker 6: It's just a lie. And so I think it was
[1:10:11] Speaker 6: what we went through like a mini moment.
[1:10:14] Speaker 12: I was like, okay, fine, and then like twelve hours later,
[1:10:17] Speaker 12: I was like wait wait. I was like, no, I
[1:10:20] Speaker 12: need I need you.
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: Oh.
[1:10:23] Speaker 12: Miss, I miss your text texting a couple of the
[1:10:27] Speaker 12: other girls, and I was like, why do I feel
[1:10:28] Speaker 12: like I just like went through a breakup and we
[1:10:30] Speaker 12: didn't even like we weren't even actually like dating yet,
[1:10:34] Speaker 12: and I just like spiraled all night.
[1:10:36] Speaker 10: And then finally I was like, so if I wanted
[1:10:40] Speaker 10: to be brave, what would that look like that's what
[1:10:43] Speaker 10: you said.
[1:10:47] Speaker 6: Yeah, you just I don't know.
[1:10:50] Speaker 5: Everyone's trying to like do something and get somewhere, and
[1:10:52] Speaker 5: I think it's just trying to create spaces where it
[1:10:54] Speaker 5: can happen, Like just trying to create safe spaces where
[1:10:56] Speaker 5: like good things can happen.
[1:10:57] Speaker 6: And so that was my thing.
[1:10:58] Speaker 5: It was just hey, what is that? What does that
[1:11:00] Speaker 5: look like? Because I want a version of this, but
[1:11:03] Speaker 5: like really what I wanted just was best for you.
[1:11:05] Speaker 5: And so like creating a space where you allow it
[1:11:08] Speaker 5: to flow, where it's like, you know what, if it
[1:11:10] Speaker 5: works out and we're doing awesome, Awesome, if I can
[1:11:11] Speaker 5: be your friend and that's the best way I can
[1:11:13] Speaker 5: do it, awesome. But if you need to be over
[1:11:15] Speaker 5: there and that's the best thing for you, then like
[1:11:17] Speaker 5: that's how it works. But just creating a safe space
[1:11:19] Speaker 5: where it's like the pressure of expectation and whatever. I
[1:11:22] Speaker 5: just don't want to I don't like putting people in
[1:11:23] Speaker 5: space where they feel like they have to do something.
[1:11:25] Speaker 5: So like you to take care of yourself and like
[1:11:27] Speaker 5: I care about you enough to like allow that to happen.
[1:11:29] Speaker 5: And this is how it worked out.
[1:11:30] Speaker 3: What was your favorite song on each other's playlist when
[1:11:32] Speaker 3: the silent disc go.
[1:11:34] Speaker 12: Well, first of all, I don't really remember. We listened
[1:11:37] Speaker 12: to very different music. Also, we had two playlists. One
[1:11:44] Speaker 12: were one was five songs that mean love to you
[1:11:47] Speaker 12: and five songs that like explain who you are?
[1:11:51] Speaker 1: Okay?
[1:11:51] Speaker 12: And I wasn't about to make him listen to my
[1:11:54] Speaker 12: love songs after I thought he was like, baby gonna
[1:11:56] Speaker 12: break up. So I was like, let's just listen to
[1:11:58] Speaker 12: our fun songs.
[1:11:59] Speaker 1: That'd be fun.
[1:12:00] Speaker 6: Huh?
[1:12:03] Speaker 1: What was it like? What was your fun playlist?
[1:12:06] Speaker 12: Mine was like Taylor Swift, Alicia Keys Ahead, I can
[1:12:10] Speaker 12: do It with a broken Heart, gir on Fire.
[1:12:14] Speaker 6: You remember all these?
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: And I understand the Broadway song? Very different, Okay, go ahead.
[1:12:24] Speaker 1: What's your other one?
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the last question of the podcast?
[1:12:28] Speaker 1: What what does the future hold for them? No?
[1:12:31] Speaker 6: Oh gosh, what's the question.
[1:12:35] Speaker 2: It's love blind. I'm gonna ask you, my bad.
[1:12:43] Speaker 1: I just want to know, like what the future holds
[1:12:45] Speaker 1: for you?
[1:12:45] Speaker 3: Guys?
[1:12:46] Speaker 6: Do you think love is fine?
[1:12:51] Speaker 10: I don't.
[1:12:51] Speaker 12: I still don't really know. I got to see him, but.
[1:12:59] Speaker 3: You you you had feelings before you see Yeah, yeah,
[1:13:02] Speaker 3: very much, so, very much so it definitely would not
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: I've battered.
[1:13:08] Speaker 10: He just happens to be really freaking.
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: As the future hold free any Like, I mean it's
[1:13:15] Speaker 1: been a couple of months, but like I feel like.
[1:13:18] Speaker 10: Especially we were actually just talking about this on the
[1:13:20] Speaker 10: way here.
[1:13:21] Speaker 12: I'm such a planner and such a like what's next?
[1:13:24] Speaker 10: What is this?
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: What is this?
[1:13:25] Speaker 12: And we're kind of in a space where we're just
[1:13:29] Speaker 12: who knows what happens next, And so I'm trying my
[1:13:32] Speaker 12: best to kind of like lean into that and actually
[1:13:34] Speaker 12: go with the flow for ones in my life and
[1:13:37] Speaker 12: just actually enjoy the moment that we're in.
[1:13:39] Speaker 6: Yeah, I think plans.
[1:13:40] Speaker 5: It's like plans are really good, but you just miss
[1:13:43] Speaker 5: these like a little moment for example, like this, you
[1:13:45] Speaker 5: guys do this all the time. There's the first time
[1:13:47] Speaker 5: we're doing this, Like this is this is just cool
[1:13:50] Speaker 5: to hang out with you very very nice, and then
[1:13:53] Speaker 5: we get to do it together. And like we were
[1:13:55] Speaker 5: at the airport and you're gonna think it's silly, but
[1:13:56] Speaker 5: we were at the airport and we're like walking and
[1:13:58] Speaker 5: we had to cross this crossway and like the you know,
[1:14:00] Speaker 5: like the walking sign like stopped, and she's like, oh
[1:14:03] Speaker 5: my god, we have to get across the street and
[1:14:04] Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know, dud, did we have
[1:14:06] Speaker 5: to do that? And we just kind of stood there
[1:14:07] Speaker 5: for a while, like looked at each other and it
[1:14:09] Speaker 5: was just like this little moment, if you have plans,
[1:14:13] Speaker 5: you just.
[1:14:13] Speaker 6: Like miss those things.
[1:14:14] Speaker 1: Who yeah, so I'm.
[1:14:16] Speaker 6: Just doing that.
[1:14:17] Speaker 5: She's like, there's so much life happening right now with this,
[1:14:19] Speaker 5: and it's just like like good things if you just
[1:14:22] Speaker 5: like just stay in the moment and you're like very present,
[1:14:25] Speaker 5: like good things have to happen.
[1:14:26] Speaker 6: So we're just there.
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: So you guys, stay in the moment. We will keep
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: leading the charge on getting Netflix to I'm going to
[1:14:36] Speaker 1: take that on. Thank you so much for your time.
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: You really really appreciate it.
[1:14:40] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:14:40] Speaker 1: I think we are all just so hurting you seriously.
[1:14:45] Speaker 3: It's like you watching watching your journey and seeing where
[1:14:50] Speaker 3: you are now is like the most like satisfying ending.
[1:14:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, for this chapter. So we're very happy for you
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: and both of you together, and hm, we can't wait
[1:15:02] Speaker 1: for next season.
[1:15:05] Speaker 6: Bye bye.

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