# Bonus: Screamin’ Jay Hawkins, Kurt & Courtney Conspiracies, and…Constipation?

An episode of [DISGRACELAND](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1275172907), 8 Oct 2026, 41 min.

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In this week’s After Party, Jake discusses the spirited online response to our Nirvana episodes and wonders why Courtney Love continues to be the the target of vitriol and suspicion. We look at the wild and mysterious life of Screamin’ Jay Hawkins who allegedly had over 57 children. Plus, Disgraceland is hitting the high seas. And as always, your voicemails, texts, dms, and emails and more. Disgraceland has been nominated for a Signal Award! Vote for us here: Best Writing Best Music Podcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Hey Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life?
[0:05] Speaker 1: Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too.
[0:08] Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
[0:12] Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Do people actually believe that
[0:32] Speaker 1: Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain or did they just hate
[0:36] Speaker 1: Courtney Love so much that they cannot accept the fact
[0:41] Speaker 1: that Kurt killed himself? Um, I've asked this question a
[0:47] Speaker 1: couple of times before. The first time it came up,
[0:50] Speaker 1: of course, was when we released originally released our Nirvana episodes,
[0:54] Speaker 1: our two part story. It's basically on Kurt and Courtney. Um,
[0:58] Speaker 1: And we had them in the Rewind feed this past weekend.
[1:03] Speaker 1: And we excerpted parts of that story for some content
[1:07] Speaker 1: on Instagram. And the response has been, I mean, I
[1:11] Speaker 1: knew the response was going to be what it was.
[1:13] Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to be as intense
[1:17] Speaker 1: as it was. I know that there's a large group
[1:20] Speaker 1: of people out there who believe what they believe about
[1:23] Speaker 1: Courtney Love. And it's not what I believe, clearly. And
[1:27] Speaker 1: I knew that they were going to be upset by
[1:29] Speaker 1: the fact that we were pointing out this anecdote from
[1:32] Speaker 1: the couple's past where Kurt overdosed. I talked about this
[1:36] Speaker 1: last week in the after party, he overdosed and Courtney
[1:38] Speaker 1: saved his life. Um, the response is not only intense.
[1:44] Speaker 1: This is, again, this is on social media. It's on Instagram. It's,
[1:46] Speaker 1: it's also, it's also pretty hysterical. Um, It's very flattering, guys,
[1:52] Speaker 1: to think that Courtney Love would pay me to do
[1:57] Speaker 1: publicity for her. It's very flattering to think that people
[2:05] Speaker 1: believe that I'm an industry plant. But it is kind
[2:09] Speaker 1: of ridiculous and fascinating. It's more fascinating to me than
[2:14] Speaker 1: it is ridiculous. And it deserves some unpacking. Because... Again,
[2:20] Speaker 1: I've looked at everything out there, including, of course, Soaked
[2:23] Speaker 1: in Bleach, including the new so-called evidence that has come
[2:29] Speaker 1: out over the last 12 to 18 months, whatever it is.
[2:33] Speaker 1: And yes, there's a lot of compelling, I don't want
[2:41] Speaker 1: to call it evidence, circumstances, compelling circumstance, excuse me, to
[2:47] Speaker 1: the death of Kurt. there's a lot you could pull
[2:51] Speaker 1: to paint some sort of narrative, some sort of picture
[2:55] Speaker 1: here that points fingers at Courtney Love, but there's no
[2:59] Speaker 1: actual evidence. And if there were, my God, man, don't
[3:04] Speaker 1: you think that Courtney Love would be held accountable? Okay,
[3:09] Speaker 1: but hold on. Let's just go back. I'm more interested
[3:12] Speaker 1: in the why, like where this disdain comes from. Now,
[3:17] Speaker 1: on the one hand, I get it. Courtney Love is
[3:22] Speaker 1: an outrageous person. She always has been, even in the
[3:26] Speaker 1: last two decades of her career here, where she hasn't
[3:28] Speaker 1: really been as in the public eye as she was
[3:32] Speaker 1: in the 90s and in the early 2000s. She is
[3:35] Speaker 1: still outrageous, truly. In the truest sense of that word,
[3:41] Speaker 1: she is outrageous. She says things that are meant to
[3:46] Speaker 1: drive you crazy, to get attention. She does truly outrageous things.
[3:50] Speaker 1: I know two people personally who went to her house
[3:52] Speaker 1: and had the same story. She answered the door naked.
[3:56] Speaker 1: And that's just me. I cannot imagine what it's like
[4:03] Speaker 1: for people who actually know Courtney Love. But I'm guessing
[4:06] Speaker 1: that most of the people in the comments section on
[4:09] Speaker 1: our Instagram page do not know Courtney Love. And I'm
[4:13] Speaker 1: also pretty sure that most of the people who are
[4:15] Speaker 1: saying these ridiculous things, making these ridiculous comments, aren't Disgraceland
[4:21] Speaker 1: podcast followers. Some of them are. Most of them are
[4:25] Speaker 1: just Disgraceland Instagram followers. And there's a difference. A lack
[4:29] Speaker 1: of understanding of nuance, I think, is the main difference.
[4:32] Speaker 1: But whatever, that's a different story. My point is, I
[4:35] Speaker 1: don't know, amongst those of you who are listening now,
[4:39] Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you are as.
[4:43] Speaker 1: Convinced that Courtney Love killed Kurt as a large portion
[4:47] Speaker 1: of people on the internet are. And that's because I
[4:50] Speaker 1: think most of our podcast listeners are, I think you
[4:54] Speaker 1: guys are smart. I think you guys are well-informed and
[4:56] Speaker 1: I think you know how to process information. However, I
[4:59] Speaker 1: do understand because I get the emails that there's some
[5:03] Speaker 1: of you who still think that she did it. And
[5:07] Speaker 1: I'm truly interested in hearing from you and hearing why.
[5:11] Speaker 1: But again, that's the point here. Why? Why do people
[5:15] Speaker 1: think this? Okay, she's outrageous. There's a lot of outrageous
[5:18] Speaker 1: rock stars. Does that make them killers? No, it does not.
[5:24] Speaker 1: But Courtney Love, she just scratches this particular itch for
[5:27] Speaker 1: people that is unique. She's truly hated. And I try
[5:34] Speaker 1: to not hate anybody, like nobody. I just don't believe
[5:38] Speaker 1: in hate. I don't like saying that word. I'm not
[5:41] Speaker 1: trying to get up on a moral high horse here,
[5:43] Speaker 1: but I try to get at like, okay, why is
[5:47] Speaker 1: this person doing this ridiculous stuff? And to me, Courtney
[5:50] Speaker 1: Love just strikes me as a very cold and calculating
[5:55] Speaker 1: Machiavellian type of entertainer, of which there are many in history.
[5:59] Speaker 1: And I know you're hearing these words come out of
[6:01] Speaker 1: my mouth and you're going, dude, listen to what you're saying.
[6:04] Speaker 1: These are the exact qualities of a killer. Well, it
[6:06] Speaker 1: takes a lot to kill somebody and get away with it.
[6:08] Speaker 1: A real lot, especially in the public eye, especially when
[6:11] Speaker 1: you're someone like Courtney Love. Especially when Kurt Cobain is
[6:13] Speaker 1: one of the biggest rock stars in the history of
[6:16] Speaker 1: rock and roll, in the history of pop, in the
[6:18] Speaker 1: history of entertainment. So it just doesn't stand. It just
[6:26] Speaker 1: does not pass the smell test. None of the evidence does.
[6:30] Speaker 1: And I wish I woke up this morning and had
[6:33] Speaker 1: the time to go through all the evidence again and
[6:35] Speaker 1: come here. And maybe that's what I should do. I
[6:39] Speaker 1: should actually– I've been planning on doing this Courtney Love
[6:43] Speaker 1: episode for some time. And I'm waiting for this documentary
[6:45] Speaker 1: to come out so that I have more information, more
[6:48] Speaker 1: of the story. Because I know there's going to be
[6:50] Speaker 1: real revelatory stuff in that film. And it was supposed
[6:56] Speaker 1: to be out. By now, it's not. So I keep
[6:58] Speaker 1: punting this episode down. down the line. But maybe what
[7:02] Speaker 1: I should do instead, maybe what the audience is telling
[7:05] Speaker 1: me here is I should actually litigate the facts in
[7:09] Speaker 1: an episode in a really open-minded way, in a way
[7:15] Speaker 1: that not necessarily to prove my point, but to unpack
[7:19] Speaker 1: my point and pressure test my point. Because I'm truly...
[7:28] Speaker 1: My jaw's on the floor at this reaction. I don't
[7:33] Speaker 1: mean to laugh, but it is kind of funny when
[7:34] Speaker 1: you read these comments. Now, of all the rock stars
[7:40] Speaker 1: throughout history, Courtney Love is singular. But if I had
[7:47] Speaker 1: to choose one rock star to compare her to, and
[7:51] Speaker 1: it has... Nothing to do with her relationship with Kurt Cobain.
[7:55] Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the death of Kurt
[7:57] Speaker 1: Cobain and how he died. If I had one rock
[8:00] Speaker 1: star to compare Courtney Love to, it would be Sid Vicious.
[8:06] Speaker 1: Courtney Love is a better musician. She's a better songwriter,
[8:09] Speaker 1: of course. But as far as being an entertainer, being
[8:13] Speaker 1: a rock star, behaving like a rock star, Sid is
[8:18] Speaker 1: the best comp. Because Sid was completely outrageous as well
[8:22] Speaker 1: and said things just to get a rise out of
[8:24] Speaker 1: people and just to get attention and all those sort
[8:26] Speaker 1: of things that Courtney, I believe Courtney learned them from
[8:29] Speaker 1: Sid Vicious, from watching Sid Vicious. And there's some irony
[8:32] Speaker 1: here too, because Courtney Love is in Sid and Nancy.
[8:37] Speaker 1: But you don't get, it's interesting because Sid is caught
[8:40] Speaker 1: up in this murder mystery as well with Nancy, but
[8:45] Speaker 1: you do not get this hatred anymore. for Sid that
[8:49] Speaker 1: you get for Courtney Love. And I want to know why.
[8:53] Speaker 1: I mean, he did truly outrageous. The guy wore a
[8:57] Speaker 1: swastika for the entirety of his career, okay? I mean,
[9:01] Speaker 1: I get the context, okay? So, you know, OG punk rockers,
[9:05] Speaker 1: don't come at me for being critical of that. I'm
[9:07] Speaker 1: just pointing it out. There's a lot. My point is
[9:10] Speaker 1: that there's a lot there with Sid that could drive
[9:14] Speaker 1: you fucking crazy and cause you to be super critical
[9:17] Speaker 1: of the guy and perhaps come up with, I don't know,
[9:20] Speaker 1: wild conspiracy theories or not even, I mean, the stuff
[9:23] Speaker 1: with Nancy, it's a stone cold whodunit with Nancy, I think.
[9:27] Speaker 1: And we're going to get into that later as well.
[9:29] Speaker 1: Of course, we touched on Sid and Nancy before, but
[9:32] Speaker 1: you know, if you talk to old school, New York
[9:35] Speaker 1: punk rockers and hardcore kids, they all have a very
[9:40] Speaker 1: clear idea of who killed Nancy. And, um, I'm interested
[9:46] Speaker 1: in unpacking that, but I'm getting off topic. Why don't
[9:52] Speaker 1: people hate Sid Vicious the way that they hate Courtney Love?
[9:58] Speaker 1: What is it? I mean, is it misogyny? Is it
[10:02] Speaker 1: because he's a man, he's not a woman? I don't
[10:04] Speaker 1: think so. I don't think those of you who listen
[10:06] Speaker 1: to this podcast and are disgracing listeners and are convinced
[10:10] Speaker 1: that Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain, I don't think you're misogynist. Now,
[10:17] Speaker 1: could a large portion of the people in the disgrace
[10:20] Speaker 1: land comments on Instagram. Could that be at the core
[10:23] Speaker 1: of their belief? Perhaps. I don't know. I haven't really
[10:28] Speaker 1: dug into it. Maybe I will. There's just something about her,
[10:34] Speaker 1: or maybe there's not. Maybe I'm looking at it the
[10:35] Speaker 1: wrong way. Maybe it's because there's something about Kurt. Kurt
[10:40] Speaker 1: Cobain is a lot different than Nancy Spungen. Kurt Cobain
[10:44] Speaker 1: is at least for our generation, for Gen X, there
[10:48] Speaker 1: was nobody more important. There was nobody bigger. There was
[10:52] Speaker 1: nobody who reached as many people. There was nobody who
[10:55] Speaker 1: had the cultural impact in music. He was our John Lennon,
[11:02] Speaker 1: our Bob Dylan. He was all of it rolled into one.
[11:07] Speaker 1: And I do think there's something psychologically with music fans
[11:11] Speaker 1: where they cannot let go. I see this with Michael
[11:15] Speaker 1: Jackson fans. I see this with Elvis Presley fans and
[11:17] Speaker 1: I see it with Kurt Cobain fans. It's a little
[11:20] Speaker 1: different than it is with, I don't know, like, you know,
[11:25] Speaker 1: Lane Staley fans or pick it Tom Petty. You know
[11:31] Speaker 1: what I mean? Not that those guys weren't great. They were,
[11:33] Speaker 1: they're truly incredible, but they weren't Kurt Cobain, Michael Jackson level.
[11:39] Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And maybe that has something
[11:42] Speaker 1: to do with it. Maybe in the absence of actually
[11:47] Speaker 1: dealing with our sort of icon grief, we cannot accept
[11:52] Speaker 1: the fact that the answer is the answer. We don't
[11:56] Speaker 1: want to accept it because then it prompts another level
[12:01] Speaker 1: of letting go. And if we can hang on to
[12:05] Speaker 1: the I don't want to call it a conspiracy, but
[12:08] Speaker 1: if we can hang on to these, I guess it
[12:09] Speaker 1: is a conspiracy. We can hang on to these alternate theories,
[12:12] Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them about their deaths. We
[12:15] Speaker 1: can keep their, their stories alive and we can, the
[12:18] Speaker 1: myth certainly grows. And maybe that's on some sort of
[12:22] Speaker 1: subconscious psychological level, what's happening here. Or maybe people just
[12:27] Speaker 1: think Courtney Love is a fucking crazy person and, and,
[12:31] Speaker 1: and contains a capacity to, to do something like murder
[12:34] Speaker 1: her husband and get away with it for all these
[12:36] Speaker 1: years publicly, which I have a lot of respect for
[12:41] Speaker 1: Courtney Love. That might shock a lot of you, but
[12:44] Speaker 1: I don't have that level of respect for her cunningness
[12:48] Speaker 1: to think that she could pull that off. But again,
[12:51] Speaker 1: I'm going to look into it more fully. I'm going
[12:53] Speaker 1: to respect the people who are showing me no respect
[12:58] Speaker 1: in the comments, and I'm going to dig into this
[13:02] Speaker 1: and see if I have some sort of artist bias,
[13:05] Speaker 1: historical bias, whatever type of bias and see if I'm
[13:09] Speaker 1: wrong here. See if, see if I'm going to look
[13:11] Speaker 1: at this information again. I've looked at it. Like I said,
[13:16] Speaker 1: Matt really looked at it. He really went at that
[13:18] Speaker 1: dossier of info that came out about 18 months ago.
[13:21] Speaker 1: And we had a big, big talk about it. I'm
[13:24] Speaker 1: going to even watch fucking soaked in bleach again. And
[13:28] Speaker 1: that knucklehead from the mentors and that whole theory And
[13:32] Speaker 1: I'm going to entertain, I guess, all the stuff about
[13:35] Speaker 1: her dad, even though just because you were associated with
[13:37] Speaker 1: the Grateful Dead does not make you a member of
[13:40] Speaker 1: the CIA. I'm going to look into all of this,
[13:43] Speaker 1: I think. But most important, I want to hear from
[13:46] Speaker 1: you guys. I want to hear from you listeners who
[13:49] Speaker 1: don't normally engage and who think that Courtney killed Kurt.
[13:55] Speaker 1: And I want to know why. And there's no stupid
[13:58] Speaker 1: answer here, okay? There are no stupid questions. There are
[14:01] Speaker 1: no stupid answers. I really want to understand this because
[14:04] Speaker 1: it's some sort of phenomenon that's unique to rock and
[14:07] Speaker 1: roll history. And it's fascinating to me. I thought I
[14:10] Speaker 1: was done with it. I'm not. So there's that. If
[14:12] Speaker 1: you're not on Instagram and you're not following Disgraceland at DisgracelandPod,
[14:17] Speaker 1: you want to see what I'm talking about. There's maybe
[14:21] Speaker 1: four posts about Kurt and Courtney over the last week.
[14:24] Speaker 1: And there's one carousel post, which is this post that's
[14:28] Speaker 1: like a series of images of And it's a little
[14:30] Speaker 1: story that we tell along with the images, pictures, and quotes.
[14:35] Speaker 1: And that's the one that really, really got people going.
[14:39] Speaker 1: Check that out. Let me know what you think. And
[14:41] Speaker 1: email me at disgracelandpod. And I want to get into
[14:43] Speaker 1: these theories. I want to get into your thoughts. And
[14:46] Speaker 1: I want them to inform the episode that I'll probably
[14:49] Speaker 1: start to put together within the next sort of four
[14:51] Speaker 1: to six weeks, I'm guessing. And it'll be a straight
[14:54] Speaker 1: up whodunit. Obviously, we covered a lot of ground in
[14:58] Speaker 1: the Nirvana story thus far. I'm not going to retread that.
[15:02] Speaker 1: I'm just going to get into the actual death and
[15:05] Speaker 1: the theory that Courtney killed Kurt. Now, as outrageous as
[15:11] Speaker 1: this theory is, there are more outrageous theories from rock
[15:15] Speaker 1: and roll history. Truly weird, unhinged, completely ludicrous ideas about
[15:23] Speaker 1: rock stars. I've had my fun with some of these
[15:27] Speaker 1: theories before in the past. The idea that John Denver
[15:31] Speaker 1: was one of Vietnam's most prolific American assassins. The idea
[15:37] Speaker 1: that Jim Morrison is the Zodiac killer. I kind of
[15:39] Speaker 1: made that up. There's some other ones. The notion, some
[15:43] Speaker 1: people think Stevie Wonder can see. Some people think that
[15:46] Speaker 1: Jay-Z is a vampire. We're going to get into you.
[15:49] Speaker 1: some of the more outrageous rockstar conspiracy theories and have
[15:53] Speaker 1: some fun with this in the exclusive section of this episode.
[15:57] Speaker 1: Go to disgracingpod.com to sign up, become an all-access member,
[16:01] Speaker 1: unlock exclusive content just like this, plus ad-free listening. Zeth
[16:04] Speaker 1: and I will be in there momentarily, and we will
[16:08] Speaker 1: be giving you all this insanity and more. All right,
[16:12] Speaker 1: so talking Kurt and Courtney because they're in the Rewind
[16:15] Speaker 1: feed this last week, and then we released our New
[16:19] Speaker 1: episode on Screamin' Jay Hawkins this past Tuesday. Coming up
[16:23] Speaker 1: after this after party, guys, we've got a Rewind episode
[16:25] Speaker 1: on Eminem. That's going to, now that I think about it,
[16:30] Speaker 1: that's going to cause some problems as well. But Screamin'
[16:34] Speaker 1: Jay Hawkins fathered 57 children. Did you guys know this?
[16:40] Speaker 1: It's part of rock and roll mythology for sure. And
[16:42] Speaker 1: it's something that came out, I don't know, decade or
[16:45] Speaker 1: two ago. It always fascinated me. 57 children. When Jay
[16:50] Speaker 1: Hawkins died, it was revealed that those children were out
[16:53] Speaker 1: there and most of them were illegitimate and unknown to him.
[16:57] Speaker 1: A friend of his asked Screamin' Jay if he ever
[17:01] Speaker 1: sent his children money and Screamin' Jay responded, well, that's
[17:04] Speaker 1: the mother's problem. Solid dude that he is. Screamin' Jay
[17:09] Speaker 1: Hawkins is one of these guys who bounced between record
[17:11] Speaker 1: labels a as much as he bounced between wives and
[17:14] Speaker 1: girlfriends in one-night stands. And when he was on his deathbed,
[17:18] Speaker 1: he supposedly asked a new friend of his, an investment banker,
[17:23] Speaker 1: to track down all 57 of his children. So the
[17:28] Speaker 1: banker set up a website called jayskids.com and received upwards
[17:33] Speaker 1: of 2,500 submissions from people claiming to be Screamin' Jay Hawkins' progeny.
[17:39] Speaker 1: So approximately one year later, after Screamin' Jay's death, a
[17:44] Speaker 1: total of 36 legitimate children had been identified. But not
[17:51] Speaker 1: one of them went to his funeral. Now, to his
[17:56] Speaker 1: three legitimate children that he knew of, the children that
[17:59] Speaker 1: he had with his first wife, Anna Mae, Screamin' Jay
[18:02] Speaker 1: Hawkins left $ 1 each. This is... fucking crazy. I don't
[18:10] Speaker 1: understand the $ 1 thing. I really don't. Why leave them anything?
[18:16] Speaker 1: Is it just a diss? Is it a way of
[18:18] Speaker 1: being cute? Or was it legitimately a heartfelt, I got
[18:22] Speaker 1: nothing and I want to show them I care? It's
[18:26] Speaker 1: really fascinating to me. Screaming Jay Hawkins is completely fascinating
[18:30] Speaker 1: to me. You can hear all about him in the
[18:31] Speaker 1: new episode if you haven't already. Perfectly timed for the
[18:35] Speaker 1: spooky Halloween season that we have just entered. as is
[18:39] Speaker 1: the Eminem episode. Now, Elvis Presley died on the toilet.
[18:42] Speaker 1: Eminem launched his career on the toilet. Gross. I know,
[18:45] Speaker 1: grosser than the Constipation Blues song we were talking about
[18:47] Speaker 1: last week, but it is true. It was Christmas. It
[18:50] Speaker 1: was also Eminem's daughter's birthday, and Em was broke and
[18:53] Speaker 1: back in his mom's trailer. And he was constipated and
[18:56] Speaker 1: on the toilet, and he took notice of how skinny
[18:58] Speaker 1: he was, and inspiration struck. Skinny, slim, slim, shady, slim, shady.
[19:04] Speaker 1: He grabbed a nearby pen and notebook and the lines
[19:07] Speaker 1: just flowed out of him page after page of words
[19:09] Speaker 1: that became the song that would help Eminem break through
[19:12] Speaker 1: and launch his career. More than that, the Slim Shady
[19:16] Speaker 1: alter ego concept that Em conceived on the can gave
[19:19] Speaker 1: Eminem the creative shield that he needed to explore incredibly
[19:23] Speaker 1: dark themes in his raps. Themes that attracted millions of
[19:27] Speaker 1: listeners and led to his 1999 Slim Shady album going
[19:30] Speaker 1: quadruple platinum. And it all started, well, Now you know
[19:34] Speaker 1: where it started. More on Eminem in this upcoming archive
[19:38] Speaker 1: episode of the Disgrace Sam podcast. That's hitting this weekend
[19:41] Speaker 1: in the feed. Then after that on Tuesday, our new
[19:45] Speaker 1: episode on As I Lay Dying. And we're asking the question,
[19:49] Speaker 1: is this Christian music scene full of phony faith leaders? Now,
[19:54] Speaker 1: Tim Lambisa, singer for the Christian metalcore band As I
[19:56] Speaker 1: Lay Dying, the front man. This is a band, guys,
[20:00] Speaker 1: that would regularly pray with their fans after shows. Now he,
[20:05] Speaker 1: this front man, Tim Lambisa of As I Lay Dying,
[20:07] Speaker 1: admitted to being an atheist, and he claimed that the
[20:10] Speaker 1: majority of Christian metal bands that he toured with were
[20:12] Speaker 1: not actually Christian. What he said was that only 1
[20:15] Speaker 1: in 10 of the bands in the scene were actually
[20:19] Speaker 1: sincere about their faith, and that the rest were fake Christians. Now,
[20:24] Speaker 1: Tim Lambisa's band, As I Lay Dying, they weren't some
[20:27] Speaker 1: fringe act. They were nominated for a Grammy, they released
[20:30] Speaker 1: an album that charted in the top 10, and all
[20:32] Speaker 1: of that was because of their devoted fans, Christian fans
[20:36] Speaker 1: who believed in the band's faith-based message. But the story
[20:40] Speaker 1: of Tim Lambesis in As I Lay Dying, it's not
[20:41] Speaker 1: just about Christianity and whether or not people are charlatans,
[20:45] Speaker 1: it's about murder. Because in 2013, Lambesis was arrested after
[20:50] Speaker 1: paying an undercover cop disguised as a hitman to kill
[20:55] Speaker 1: his wife. Obviously not a very Christian thing to do.
[20:58] Speaker 1: We get into the story of Tim Lambesis in As
[21:00] Speaker 1: I Lay Dying and the whole Christian metal scene in
[21:02] Speaker 1: the new episode of Disgrace Land. So do not miss that.
[21:04] Speaker 1: That's coming on Tuesday. And when you're listening to this
[21:08] Speaker 1: As I Lay Dying episode, what I want to know
[21:10] Speaker 1: from you guys, what music do you listen to that
[21:14] Speaker 1: compels you to think about faith? I don't mean something
[21:18] Speaker 1: that's converted you to a religion. That's not what I'm saying.
[21:21] Speaker 1: I personally believe that the mystery of faith is something
[21:24] Speaker 1: to be contemplated. It's something to be confronted. Okay? And
[21:29] Speaker 1: a lot of music has done that for me. I
[21:31] Speaker 1: think about Dylan's Christian album, Slow Train of Coming. For
[21:35] Speaker 1: some reason, I think of Moby's play. That record always
[21:38] Speaker 1: kind of makes me think about my faith and think
[21:40] Speaker 1: about faith in general, I should say. I think about
[21:45] Speaker 1: gospel bluegrass music. I tend to listen to that a
[21:48] Speaker 1: lot on Sunday mornings. And it's all for this reason.
[21:51] Speaker 1: It's kind of propelling me in this direction to think
[21:54] Speaker 1: about faith. So what music does that for you? Is
[21:58] Speaker 1: it As I Lay Dying? I don't think so. It's
[22:00] Speaker 1: not for me anyways. But what music do you listen
[22:03] Speaker 1: to that has pushed you to confront faith, to think
[22:06] Speaker 1: about faith? And it's a little heavy, but I don't care. 617-906-6638,
[22:09] Speaker 1: voicemail and text. Get at me. We'll get into it.
[22:14] Speaker 1: You might hear yourself in next week's episode of the
[22:17] Speaker 1: Disgraceland After Party. You can always DM me at DisgracelandPod
[22:20] Speaker 1: on the socials as well. DisgracelandPod at gmail.com on email.
[22:25] Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. with your answers to
[22:27] Speaker 1: last week's question of the week, your voicemails, texts, all
[22:29] Speaker 1: that stuff. Hang on. All right, guys, welcome back. Let's
[22:44] Speaker 1: get straight into your calls. 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. This
[22:51] Speaker 1: one comes from the 903 on the subject of Screamin'
[22:54] Speaker 1: Jay Hawkins.
[22:55] Speaker 2: Hey, Jake. Adam from Texas, now in Maryland. Excuse me,
[22:59] Speaker 2: Jay Hawkins. I can't help but remember you said that
[23:03] Speaker 2: he was addicted to codeine at one point. I can
[23:07] Speaker 2: block his bowels, too. So, obviously, he died of a
[23:09] Speaker 2: blocked bowel. I would guess the codeine addiction had something
[23:12] Speaker 2: to do with it more than anything. But, as you said,
[23:15] Speaker 2: we don't know because everybody you look, you hear a
[23:17] Speaker 2: different story. So, us in our current factory thing, what
[23:23] Speaker 2: we feel might be right. Must be right, of course,
[23:26] Speaker 2: in the way things go these days. Just my only
[23:29] Speaker 2: thought on that. Great episode, otherwise. Just insane on the
[23:34] Speaker 2: 54 kids. I don't even know what to say about that.
[23:37] Speaker 1: Anyway, love the episode. Love the show. Rock and roll up. Out. Adam,
[23:43] Speaker 1: thanks for the call, my man. Appreciate you. 54 kids,
[23:45] Speaker 1: 56 kids, 57 kids, 36 kids. Whatever it was, it
[23:47] Speaker 1: was a lot of kids. which is just crazy. And
[23:53] Speaker 1: I feel for those kids who hopefully some of them
[23:55] Speaker 1: found a dad elsewhere somehow. Yeah, the coding, intestinal blockage
[24:02] Speaker 1: as well. A lot of intestinal blockage talk over these
[24:05] Speaker 1: weeks in this Graceland. Who knows? Who knows how Jay died?
[24:11] Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be ironic if one of his kids did
[24:12] Speaker 1: him in? Let's go to Kelly in the 7-8 one. Hey, Jake.
[24:18] Speaker 3: This is Kelly from the 781. I have not called
[24:21] Speaker 3: in a while. I'm sorry.
[24:22] Speaker 1: I was just.
[24:23] Speaker 3: Re-listening to the Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love episodes again,
[24:27] Speaker 3: and I'm just calling about your question. Did Courtney Love
[24:31] Speaker 3: kill Kurt Cobain? And I think absolutely no. And I
[24:36] Speaker 3: am down for conspiracy. I think that, as they say
[24:40] Speaker 3: on another podcast I listen to, the difference between a
[24:43] Speaker 3: conspiracy and the truth is six months. And really, that's
[24:47] Speaker 3: how it's been lately with all the craziness. But no,
[24:50] Speaker 3: I have never thought that she killed him. I always
[24:52] Speaker 3: thought that was ludicrous. Why would she kill him, number one?
[24:56] Speaker 3: What did she gain from that? I mean, she had
[24:58] Speaker 3: her own money. She had whatever.
[24:59] Speaker 2: She loved him.
[25:00] Speaker 3: She did not kill him. I think that's ridiculous.
[25:05] Speaker 2: Macarola.
[25:06] Speaker 1: Kelly, the voice of reason. Appreciate you calling in. I'm
[25:09] Speaker 1: with you. I do not think Courtney Love. Obviously, we
[25:12] Speaker 1: talked about this earlier. I want to get into the specifics, though,
[25:15] Speaker 1: and I'm going to unpack this for the people who
[25:17] Speaker 1: do think so. 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. We can keep
[25:22] Speaker 1: talking about Courtney Love. We can talk about Jay Hawkins.
[25:24] Speaker 1: We can talk about anything you want to talk about.
[25:27] Speaker 1: 302 writes in, and 302 is very angry. Says, Jake,
[25:30] Speaker 1: my friend, if your question of the week isn't, are
[25:32] Speaker 1: you one of Screamin' Jay's kids, then we as a
[25:36] Speaker 1: disgraced land society don't deserve shit. I don't quite understand
[25:41] Speaker 1: what that means, 302, but a lot of passion there.
[25:45] Speaker 1: Are you one of Screamin' J's kids?
[25:49] Speaker 3: 617-906-6638.
[25:49] Speaker 1: Voicemail and text. Get back and let me know. 405
[25:52] Speaker 1: writes in, after a long hiatus that life often imposes
[25:56] Speaker 1: on us all, I have had a lot of catching
[25:58] Speaker 1: up to do. And while I'm late to the game,
[26:01] Speaker 1: I had an existential experience in listening to your piece
[26:04] Speaker 1: on Patti Smith. I listen to a lot of podcasts
[26:07] Speaker 1: and you always bring your A game, but your work
[26:09] Speaker 1: on Patti Smith took me to a place in my
[26:11] Speaker 1: mind in the universe that is only reserved when that
[26:13] Speaker 1: rare moment of clarity hits. You recently spoke of the
[26:17] Speaker 1: new mediums for good writers and your episode on Patti
[26:19] Speaker 1: Smith is up there with the great pieces. And wow,
[26:22] Speaker 1: thank you. In modern, that's me saying thank you. Goes
[26:26] Speaker 1: on to say, is up there with the great pieces
[26:28] Speaker 1: in modern pop culture literature in the New Yorker, Rolling Stone,
[26:32] Speaker 1: and those other magazine rack grabs that molded the youth
[26:34] Speaker 1: of the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. Don't stop writing. Rockarola,
[26:38] Speaker 1: the Notorious R.D.G. from the 405. Notorious R.D.G. Thank you
[26:44] Speaker 1: so much. Really cool of you to say. I appreciate that. Yeah,
[26:50] Speaker 1: that episode was nominated for a Signal Award. If you
[26:54] Speaker 1: guys want Disgraceland to win, as I do, because like
[26:58] Speaker 1: I said, once you get nominated for an award, it's
[27:00] Speaker 1: a double-edged sword. You don't want to lose. I hate
[27:02] Speaker 1: fucking losing. I don't like the concept of, oh, it's
[27:05] Speaker 1: just nice to be considered. Fuck that. I want to win.
[27:09] Speaker 1: So help me win. Help us win. Go to the website, SignalAward.com.
[27:16] Speaker 1: Big button right there. Click vote now. You can find
[27:19] Speaker 1: Disgraceland nominated for Best Writing and Best Music. Thank you,
[27:24] Speaker 1: Matt Bowden. Thank you, Sean Cahalan. Thank you, Ryan Spraker,
[27:26] Speaker 1: for all the amazing work you guys do on the
[27:29] Speaker 1: music for Disgraceland. And I like that you're being acknowledged
[27:33] Speaker 1: here as well as my writing. And thanks for the
[27:36] Speaker 1: kind words. I really appreciate it, RDG. That is, you know,
[27:41] Speaker 1: I'm humbled. I truly am. Helltown Mark from the 978
[27:45] Speaker 1: writes in, hey, didn't really expect to be adding a
[27:48] Speaker 1: blues song about constipation today, but here we are. And
[27:52] Speaker 1: there's a screenshot of Helltown Mark's phone where he's selecting
[27:58] Speaker 1: Constipation Blues and adding it to the Disgraceland Songs playlist. Mark,
[28:02] Speaker 1: do me a favor and call in and leave us
[28:04] Speaker 1: a voicemail. You're great on the text, but I want
[28:07] Speaker 1: a voicemail and I want you to explain to the
[28:08] Speaker 1: people what this is so that I can explain it
[28:11] Speaker 1: more fully. I'm getting hit up on Instagram. People are
[28:13] Speaker 1: asking about this playlist and I want to let them
[28:15] Speaker 1: know exactly what it is and where they can find it. Um, uh,
[28:20] Speaker 1: this is, uh, an ongoing thing. I get at least
[28:23] Speaker 1: one message per week. So call back 617-906-6638 voicemail and text.
[28:28] Speaker 1: 416 writes in on our Quincy Jones episode. Hey, great
[28:34] Speaker 1: Q episode. I really identified with what you said at
[28:36] Speaker 1: the beginning of the after party episode all throughout high school.
[28:39] Speaker 1: I was told you're going to become a writer. You're
[28:41] Speaker 1: going to write stuff. What did I do? I became
[28:43] Speaker 1: a clinical psychologist, researcher, and professor. Turns out I write
[28:49] Speaker 1: for a living. It started with the BA, the MA,
[28:51] Speaker 1: the PhD dissertation. When people say, oh, you're a psychologist,
[28:55] Speaker 1: what do you do? I reply, paperwork. I see my
[28:57] Speaker 1: job as trying to tell the client's story through these
[28:59] Speaker 1: very long reports, but I tell them that my job
[29:02] Speaker 1: is not to get it right. My job is to
[29:03] Speaker 1: get it right for them. Now, of course, people tell
[29:05] Speaker 1: me I should have a podcast because I love telling stories.
[29:08] Speaker 1: This is the way of the world now. This is
[29:10] Speaker 1: how you get your stories out. This is how you
[29:12] Speaker 1: speak your truth about life. Rock-a-rola. Well, Jason in the 416,
[29:15] Speaker 1: this is a Very interesting text. You sound highly educated
[29:21] Speaker 1: and I'm glad that you're getting your money's worth and
[29:25] Speaker 1: that you finally became a writer in a roundabout way,
[29:29] Speaker 1: just like I did. It's crazy how these things happen.
[29:33] Speaker 3: All right.
[29:33] Speaker 1: 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Get at me. Leave a voicemail.
[29:36] Speaker 1: I'll a text. Recommend some episodes. Give me your answers
[29:43] Speaker 1: to the question of the week. What music inspires you
[29:47] Speaker 1: to confront or contemplate your faith? I know it's heavy,
[29:51] Speaker 1: but who gives a shit? Let's get into it. We
[29:53] Speaker 1: know each other. We've known each other for a while.
[29:56] Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've been out there. And
[30:01] Speaker 1: I'm getting out there, getting out there in the new year.
[30:05] Speaker 1: It's going to happen. Get this cruise planned and we're
[30:09] Speaker 1: going to be staging a live version of Disgraceland. Haven't
[30:14] Speaker 1: done a live show in a while. We're going to
[30:16] Speaker 1: be doing it on a ship. Version voyages. Zeth and
[30:21] Speaker 1: I going to be taping, filming, perhaps a live episode
[30:25] Speaker 1: of the Disgraceland podcast and after party. And we need
[30:30] Speaker 1: you there. Okay. We're going to make this disco centric.
[30:35] Speaker 1: This cruise does not happen until March 20th, 2027. So
[30:38] Speaker 1: you got some time and this would make just a
[30:40] Speaker 1: fantastic Christmas present. Okay. For you and your girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, whatever, buddy, pal.
[30:48] Speaker 1: I don't know. You're just Graceland fans. Just come on out.
[30:51] Speaker 1: And if you order now, if you book now, I
[30:54] Speaker 1: should say, you can score up to a thousand bucks
[30:56] Speaker 1: in savings, 70% off. 70% off your, what they're calling
[31:03] Speaker 1: second sailor. It sounds fun. Not as fun as the
[31:06] Speaker 1: first sailor. I imagine that means the person you're going
[31:09] Speaker 1: with gets 70% off and you get a $ 300 onboard
[31:14] Speaker 1: credit that I'm sure you can put towards all kinds
[31:16] Speaker 1: of stuff on the ship. Go to virginvoyages.com slash true
[31:20] Speaker 1: crime and grab your spot. This is going to sell out.
[31:23] Speaker 1: This is March 20th, 2027. We're sailing out of Miami.
[31:28] Speaker 1: And we're heading to Grand Turk. It's going to be
[31:31] Speaker 1: five nights. And it's not just going to be me.
[31:34] Speaker 1: It's going to be me and Zeth, like I said.
[31:36] Speaker 1: But it's also going to be the Buried Bones podcast.
[31:38] Speaker 1: That's an Exactly Right Network podcast. And it's going to
[31:40] Speaker 1: be Wisecrack. Wisecrack is the podcast of the year, last year.
[31:47] Speaker 1: Very big show. Again, Five Night Cruise begins March 20th, 2027.
[31:51] Speaker 1: There'll be all kinds of stuff going on besides the show.
[31:54] Speaker 1: I'm going to be hanging out. Zeth's going to be
[31:56] Speaker 1: hanging out. me all kinds of true crime themed happenings
[32:00] Speaker 1: on board, podcast recordings, behind the scenes sessions, meet and greets,
[32:04] Speaker 1: all that stuff. Again, you book now, you're going to
[32:08] Speaker 1: get $ 1, 000 in instant savings, 70% off your second sailor,
[32:13] Speaker 1: which is not your first mate, and up to $ 300
[32:16] Speaker 1: of on board credit. Okay. Go to www.virginvoyages.com slash true crime,
[32:23] Speaker 1: book your ticket, book passage as they say, pick out
[32:28] Speaker 1: a good Hawaiian shirt, and let's get into this. All right,
[32:31] Speaker 1: I will be back in a flash with your emails.
[32:34] Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. All right, guys, disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Hit
[32:50] Speaker 1: me with your emails. This one comes from Neil Gillis.
[32:52] Speaker 1: Neil Gillis, the subject is ranking dread episode. Suggestion, ranking dread.
[32:59] Speaker 1: Story has everything. Sound system, clashes, political riots, fleeing multiple countries,
[33:05] Speaker 1: bringing the yards from Jamaica to the UK, Canada, and US.
[33:09] Speaker 1: And he made great music. Tell me Fatty Boom Boom
[33:12] Speaker 1: is not great music. Rock-a-rola. Ranking dread. Neil, I am.
[33:18] Speaker 1: Embarrassed to say, I don't know what the hell you're
[33:20] Speaker 1: talking about, but the passion in this email is such
[33:22] Speaker 1: that I'm going to note it and I'm going to
[33:25] Speaker 1: put this on the list. This is something that sounds
[33:28] Speaker 1: like it would allow us, I need a way into
[33:31] Speaker 1: Jamaican music that is not Bob Marley or Peter Tosh.
[33:36] Speaker 1: And this sounds like it might be it. And I'm
[33:39] Speaker 1: very interested. Robbie Thringwright saying, hey, Jake, it's your neighbor
[33:43] Speaker 1: in the upstairs apartment. Have you, what, what the fuck
[33:46] Speaker 1: are you talking about? Robbie goes on to say, have
[33:48] Speaker 1: you watched Last Stop yet? And no, it's not a
[33:51] Speaker 1: Western or an old TMC classic. Think more along the
[33:54] Speaker 1: lines of Tarantino. Just watch it. I guarantee you'll like it.
[33:59] Speaker 1: If you don't, I'll buy you a pint of moose
[34:00] Speaker 1: head next time you're in Toronto. Also, oh, I get
[34:03] Speaker 1: upstairs apartment. Now I get he's in Canada. Robbie, I
[34:06] Speaker 1: like how you did that. I like how you did that.
[34:07] Speaker 1: You didn't explain it. Robbie goes on to say, also
[34:10] Speaker 1: another point, I just discovered this band, the Silver Apples
[34:12] Speaker 1: from 1968. They sound like nothing from that era. They
[34:16] Speaker 1: were so far ahead of their time. It's incredible. They
[34:18] Speaker 1: were a synth rock band before there was synth. Anyhow,
[34:21] Speaker 1: check them out after you've watched The Last Stop. Cheers
[34:23] Speaker 1: from the 519 in Waterloo, Canada. Love these recommendations. You
[34:27] Speaker 1: guys are killing it this week. Robbie, great job. Silver Apples,
[34:30] Speaker 1: I've heard of them. Never checked them out, but I'm
[34:33] Speaker 1: excited to check them out and do that today, actually. 1968, huh?
[34:38] Speaker 1: Synth before there was synth. And The Last Stop. You
[34:41] Speaker 1: didn't give me much to go on here, but... I
[34:44] Speaker 1: don't know. There's something about the way you wrote this
[34:46] Speaker 1: that I feel like you're a guy I need to
[34:47] Speaker 1: pay attention to, Robbie. So I'm going to check out
[34:50] Speaker 1: the last stop. All right. At least I'm going to
[34:52] Speaker 1: talk to Zeth about it. See if he's got a take.
[34:57] Speaker 1: And then I'll dive in. Maybe. Perhaps. I think. Let's see.
[35:01] Speaker 1: In any event, I really appreciate the message. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com.
[35:06] Speaker 1: You guys want to hit us up about anything over email,
[35:09] Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. Heather the Yinzer on
[35:11] Speaker 1: Patreon writes, Hey, what happened to the old rock stars
[35:15] Speaker 1: with no fucks to give content? Well, I don't really know.
[35:19] Speaker 1: I'm reading this comment out of context, so it's hard
[35:21] Speaker 1: for me to tell Heather, but I'm going to look
[35:22] Speaker 1: into that. Pete on Patreon writes, Feast of the Mau
[35:25] Speaker 1: Mau makes I Put a Spell on You sound like
[35:27] Speaker 1: a Celine Dion jam. Feast of the Mau Mau is
[35:31] Speaker 1: a Screamin' Jay Hawkins song, for those of you who
[35:34] Speaker 1: are interested. Thank you, Pete. Tim on Patreon writes in, hey,
[35:37] Speaker 1: is it me or does this episode just sound different?
[35:40] Speaker 1: More natural, less bass or decibels or something. Sounds good,
[35:44] Speaker 1: just different.
[35:46] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[35:47] Speaker 1: Tim, maybe it's your settings or maybe Matt did something different. Matt,
[35:51] Speaker 1: did you do something different? Let us know. All right, guys,
[35:54] Speaker 1: it's October. We're nearing the end of the year. We
[35:55] Speaker 1: got to get together and figure out what episodes we
[35:57] Speaker 1: are going to produce for next year. This is talking
[36:00] Speaker 1: directly to the discos who are part of the Sound
[36:03] Speaker 1: and Fury community. membership in our All Access Club. We've
[36:08] Speaker 1: got a episode of this film we have to produce
[36:13] Speaker 1: next week. Perhaps we can hook something up for the
[36:15] Speaker 1: week after for a Zoom where we can all jump
[36:19] Speaker 1: on and you can bring your recommendations and we can
[36:22] Speaker 1: have a more of a sort of organized discussion about
[36:25] Speaker 1: what we want to produce for next year. We can
[36:29] Speaker 1: get into that more fully Zeth and I will have
[36:32] Speaker 1: some information in the Patreon in the coming days about
[36:35] Speaker 1: when we're going to do this. In the meantime, start
[36:38] Speaker 1: thinking about what episodes you want us to produce. Come
[36:42] Speaker 1: to this Zoom prepared. Just like Zeth Lundy comes to
[36:46] Speaker 1: the Hollywoodland feed every week prepared. He's talking to you
[36:49] Speaker 1: guys in the wrap party, as am I with our recommendations.
[36:52] Speaker 1: He's talking to you in the screening room, setting up
[36:55] Speaker 1: our watch for the weekend. And of course, we've got
[36:57] Speaker 1: our archive episode over there as well. Make sure you're
[37:00] Speaker 1: subscribed to Hollywoodland. Go to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio app,
[37:05] Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. Search Hollywoodland and subscribe. Our
[37:10] Speaker 1: next episode on this film should be played loud. It's Halloween.
[37:14] Speaker 1: So we're going to be doing Shaun of the Dead,
[37:16] Speaker 1: which was a recommendation from a bunch of you guys
[37:19] Speaker 1: over on Patreon. Like I said, we're going to be
[37:22] Speaker 1: filming that next week, I believe. Yeah, next week, I think.
[37:28] Speaker 1: Coming up though, that's coming up end of the month.
[37:31] Speaker 1: You want in on all this all access action, you
[37:33] Speaker 1: got to go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become
[37:35] Speaker 1: an all access member. You're going to get this film
[37:38] Speaker 1: should be played loud. That's our monthly video podcast. You're
[37:42] Speaker 1: going to be able to chime in with us, get
[37:44] Speaker 1: on a Zoom, talk to me, talk to Zeth, talk
[37:47] Speaker 1: to us, recommendations, give us your thoughts on episodes, subjects
[37:51] Speaker 1: we should be covering directly, influence the programming here. Go
[37:54] Speaker 1: to disgracelandpod.com to sign up. and to unlock ad-free listening
[38:01] Speaker 1: and also exclusive content like the conversations Zeth and I
[38:04] Speaker 1: are about to have right now. All right, back after this.
[38:15] Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're about to get out of here.
[38:20] Speaker 1: Before we do, just your weekly reminder that we have
[38:23] Speaker 1: for just mainly for new listeners, but also for some
[38:26] Speaker 1: of the loyal listeners long-time listeners. We're coming up on
[38:31] Speaker 1: 300 episodes of Disgraceland, massive archive stories on so many
[38:36] Speaker 1: different musical artists from so many different genres. Hit me up,
[38:40] Speaker 1: disgracelandpod at gmail.com, 617-906-6638, voicemail and text at disgracelandpod on
[38:46] Speaker 1: the socials if you have questions about your favorite artists
[38:50] Speaker 1: and whether or not we've covered them and I can
[38:53] Speaker 1: point you in the right direction. In our massive archive.
[38:55] Speaker 1: All right, let's recap before we get out of here.
[38:57] Speaker 1: Number one, this week, our new episode on Screaming Jay Hawkins.
[38:59] Speaker 1: That's available for you to listen to right now. Number two,
[39:01] Speaker 1: in the rewind slot this weekend, our classic episode on Eminem.
[39:04] Speaker 1: Number three, next week coming at you, our new episode
[39:07] Speaker 1: on As I Lay Dying. Four, Seth's going to give
[39:09] Speaker 1: you those Hollywood and crime vibes in the Hollywoodland feed.
[39:12] Speaker 1: So make sure that you're subscribed. And I'll be giving
[39:15] Speaker 1: you my music recommendations over there in the wrap party.
[39:17] Speaker 1: Number five, this film should be played loud. Our video
[39:20] Speaker 1: podcast episode on Gross Point Blank is available for you
[39:23] Speaker 1: right now. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become
[39:25] Speaker 1: an all access member and unlock exclusive content just like this,
[39:29] Speaker 1: along with ad free listening. Number six, six, one, seven, nine, oh, six, six, six, three, eight.
[39:34] Speaker 1: Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of
[39:36] Speaker 1: music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers
[39:38] Speaker 1: to this week's question of the week or whatever else
[39:40] Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos.
[39:42] Speaker 1: This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of
[39:45] Speaker 1: the obsessed. And no one cares about music books, records,
[39:47] Speaker 1: and the crime and grime that ties them all together
[39:50] Speaker 1: like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right,
[39:52] Speaker 1: back on February 12, 2000, Screamin' Jay Hawkins died. And
[39:56] Speaker 1: this is what America was listening to on that day,
[39:58] Speaker 1: according to the Billboard charts. Number one, I Knew I
[40:02] Speaker 1: Loved You, Savage Garden. Last week, one. Peak position, one.
[40:07] Speaker 1: Weeks on chart, 17. Number two, Thank God I Found You,
[40:12] Speaker 1: Maria Carey featuring Joe in 98 Degrees. Last week, 22.
[40:17] Speaker 1: Peak position, two. Weeks on chart, Montana. Number three, What
[40:22] Speaker 1: a Girl Wants, Christina Aguilera. Last week, two. Peak position, one.
[40:28] Speaker 1: Weeks on chart, 12. Number four, Get It On Tonight,
[40:32] Speaker 1: Montel Jordan. Last week, five. Peak position, four. Weeks on chart,
[40:38] Speaker 1: last week. Number five. Quit talking and start mixing.
[40:43] Speaker 3: Cut it.

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