# Overcoming the Odds: Her workbook is designed to help individuals overcome people-pleasing and prioritizing your own needs.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 8 Jan 2026, 23 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Teresa Edwards. Purpose of the Interview The interview aims to introduce Teresa Edwards’ book The Mirror Method: 12 Weeks to Stop Abandoning Yourself, a guided workbook designed to help individuals overcome people-pleasing tendencies, set boundaries, and prioritize their own needs without guilt. It focuses on personal empowerment, mental health, and rediscovering one’s authentic self. Key Takeaways • People-Pleasing and Boundaries • People-pleasing becomes harmful when you agree to things you don’t want to do, leading to stress and resentment. • Setting boundaries is essential for self-respect and mental health. • The Mirror Method • A 12-week guided process to “unravel” harmful patterns and rediscover your true self. • Emphasizes self-reflection, journaling, and gradual transformation at your own pace. • Selfishness vs. Self-Care • Edwards reframes “selfish” as a positive concept: prioritizing your health and happiness is necessary, not negative. • You can’t be your best for others if you’re not your best for yourself. • Health as a Wake-Up Call • Stress is a silent killer; Teresa’s own health issues (high blood pressure) forced her to reevaluate her life. • Happiness and well-being should not be age-limited—“You’re never too old to return to yourself.” • Letting Go of Toxic Relationships • Users often exploit people-pleasers; recognizing and removing such relationships is crucial. • Fully committing to the Mirror Method means accepting hard truths and being okay with losing people who drain you. • Therapy and Mental Health • COVID accelerated acceptance of therapy in communities where it was previously stigmatized. • Mental health is as important as physical health—“The mind is a muscle too.” • Workbook Details • Available on Amazon and at themirrormethodworkbook.com in print and downloadable formats. • Exercises involve writing and self-reflection to confront truths and break patterns. Notable Quotes • “Boundaries are key.” • “Selfish is not a negative word—it’s perseverance of yourself.” • “You can’t throw a party and be mad at your own party.” • “Enough is enough—look in the mirror and say it.” • “You’re never too old to return to yourself.” • “Stress is that silent killer.” • “Fully commit means accepting all those good, bad, or ugly moments—and being okay with letting go.” • “The mind is a muscle too.” • “Be okay with being okay.” #SHMS #STRAW #BEST Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success. Business Podcast Entrepreneurship Small Business Business Growth Financial Literacy Wealth Building Black Entrepreneurs Minority Business Leadership Executive Leadership Business Funding Marketing Strategies Personal Development Startup Advice Sales Training CEO Interviews Founder Stories Professional Development Economic Empowerment Business Success Networking Brand Building Innovation How to start a business Small business funding Entrepreneur success stories Business leadership podcast Wealth building strategies Black entrepreneur podcast Minority business development Marketing for small…

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[0:00] Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. I host this weekly Money Making
[0:02] Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and information that this show
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[0:29] Speaker 2: Now.
[0:29] Speaker 1: Let's get started. My guest new book, The Mirror Method
[0:33] Speaker 1: Twelve Weeks to Stop Abandoning Yourself in a twelve week
[0:36] Speaker 1: guided workbook designed to help you stop abandoning yourself and
[0:40] Speaker 1: finally choose your own needs without guill Please welcome to
[0:44] Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Teresa Edwards. Hey you doing Teresa?
[0:49] Speaker 2: Hi?
[0:50] Speaker 1: You know it was a longer intro there, and I
[0:52] Speaker 1: wanted to cut short a little bit because it was
[0:54] Speaker 1: some things in that intro that I wanted to ask
[0:56] Speaker 1: you directly, okay, And because I think that we all
[1:00] Speaker 1: or have a pleasing personality. We want to please people,
[1:04] Speaker 1: because we want nice things, people to think nice about us. Now,
[1:08] Speaker 1: when does pleasing become extreme? Because that was a problem
[1:13] Speaker 1: for you.
[1:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, it becomes extreme when you're doing it and you
[1:17] Speaker 3: really don't want to do it, right, You got that
[1:19] Speaker 3: feeling because I think that's one of my people. Pleasing
[1:22] Speaker 3: is always want to you know, somebody ask me for help,
[1:25] Speaker 3: even though I don't have the time, you know, and
[1:28] Speaker 3: I'm stretched already thin. But then I was like, oh,
[1:31] Speaker 3: they're my friend, so I gotta do it. But instead
[1:35] Speaker 3: of setting those boundaries and say, hey, I don't have
[1:38] Speaker 3: the time, okay.
[1:39] Speaker 1: You know, and boundaries is a key, and so boundaries
[1:42] Speaker 1: are key. So let's go on your background. They allow
[1:46] Speaker 1: you to be to communic collect this are this based
[1:48] Speaker 1: on just personal history?
[1:49] Speaker 2: This book or this based on textbook.
[1:52] Speaker 3: Study, personal history and just watching others? So but yees,
[1:57] Speaker 3: definitely this is me telling my story and you know,
[2:01] Speaker 3: trying to share what has helped me.
[2:04] Speaker 4: You know.
[2:04] Speaker 3: So it was you know, it's always it's been an
[2:08] Speaker 3: accumulative story, but it really came to head when I
[2:13] Speaker 3: was laid off this last time, you know, and it's
[2:16] Speaker 3: like I have given this company everything, but yet you're
[2:20] Speaker 3: still not valuing what I am, and I found myself
[2:24] Speaker 3: shrinking because especially being African American, being a woman in
[2:28] Speaker 3: a corporate environment is all You're always on this tightrope
[2:33] Speaker 3: because if you're assertive, then you call something else, you know,
[2:37] Speaker 3: but then they expect you to be the yes person
[2:41] Speaker 3: even though you know what they're doing is not right.
[2:44] Speaker 3: So when you speak up, then you get penalized. So
[2:47] Speaker 3: it's like that's cause of stress, and it causes all
[2:52] Speaker 3: kind of health issues, and it's like, I can't keep
[2:55] Speaker 3: doing this but to reach it.
[2:58] Speaker 1: I've come from the corporate world, so I understand what
[3:00] Speaker 1: you're talking about. And so there's a lot of people
[3:02] Speaker 1: listening to this interview in the corporate world, in the
[3:05] Speaker 1: entrepreneurial space, and all they want to do is win,
[3:08] Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes there are cause factors that come there,
[3:12] Speaker 1: all sorts pull health relationships.
[3:17] Speaker 2: Twelve steps. You created twelve steps in your method.
[3:22] Speaker 4: Why twelve steps because it took you a while to
[3:25] Speaker 4: get to where you were, so it's going to take
[3:27] Speaker 4: a while to unravel all that stuff, you know, all
[3:30] Speaker 4: that junk that you have allowed to take presidents versus
[3:35] Speaker 4: be letting your true self emerge.
[3:39] Speaker 3: So it's all about unraveling. It's all about seeing what is,
[3:43] Speaker 3: what has been the problem, identifying that, unraveling that, and
[3:49] Speaker 3: then putting you first. There is not rediscovering somebody else.
[3:54] Speaker 3: That's rediscovering the old you.
[3:55] Speaker 1: Now, once people say the word you first, the next
[3:59] Speaker 1: word that comes out is selfish. And I'm an advocate
[4:02] Speaker 1: that selfish is not a negative world. It's not, and
[4:05] Speaker 1: a lot of people want to use it as a
[4:07] Speaker 1: negative word. Please talk to us why is not a
[4:10] Speaker 1: negative word and why it's important to discovering yourself and
[4:13] Speaker 1: also leading to a much more healthier and prosperous life.
[4:18] Speaker 3: Selfish is never putting yourself and your health and your
[4:21] Speaker 3: all that first. Never, It's never selfish. It is perseverance
[4:26] Speaker 3: of yourself. So you can't be your best self if
[4:30] Speaker 3: you're not your best self. How are you going to
[4:33] Speaker 3: be your best for others if you're not best to
[4:35] Speaker 3: you and you? And we tend to treat others to
[4:38] Speaker 3: give more others, you know, more respect on how they feel,
[4:42] Speaker 3: versus identifying how we feel and respecting our own feelings
[4:48] Speaker 3: and how we want to move in this life and
[4:51] Speaker 3: boundaries is a good thing. Selfish is not being I'm
[4:56] Speaker 3: all about myself. It's setting boundaries and say hey, this
[4:59] Speaker 3: is something that I cannot do or this is something
[5:01] Speaker 3: that I will do, and just letting folks know. And
[5:04] Speaker 3: then it's like, hey, if you can't respect that, then
[5:06] Speaker 3: you don't respect me in the first place, right, right,
[5:08] Speaker 3: So maybe maybe you're not supposed to be.
[5:10] Speaker 2: In my life, right And that's important, And that's on
[5:13] Speaker 2: this conversation.
[5:14] Speaker 1: Some people say honest talk, and I think that that's
[5:17] Speaker 1: what we're having this interview about this conversation because fear
[5:21] Speaker 1: comes into the play because we all want to be successful. Yes, Teresa,
[5:25] Speaker 1: but when did you realize you would hit that maybe
[5:28] Speaker 1: bumping the road or that marking your life that I
[5:31] Speaker 1: gotta change when.
[5:34] Speaker 3: Your hell start telling you like okay, now keep playing,
[5:38] Speaker 3: you have to change cause stress is that silent killer.
[5:41] Speaker 3: We all know that. And then was.
[5:44] Speaker 1: It a doctor visit was it you sitting in a
[5:46] Speaker 1: dark room because people are dealing with this every day and.
[5:50] Speaker 2: Some people don't want to go to the doctor.
[5:52] Speaker 3: It's everything. I mean, the doctor is that one is
[5:56] Speaker 3: I guess saying okay, now the metrics in front of you, Yes,
[6:01] Speaker 3: it puts but you already know inside of you that
[6:04] Speaker 3: you're not right, You're not happy, and why can't Why
[6:09] Speaker 3: is it not okay for you to be happy? Everybody
[6:12] Speaker 3: else is making everybody else around you happy, so why
[6:16] Speaker 3: not put you first? So it was those those those
[6:21] Speaker 3: really conversations with myself.
[6:23] Speaker 1: Right now, let's talk about this because I want people
[6:25] Speaker 1: to understand that this conversation, this interview that we're having
[6:30] Speaker 1: right now is about looking in the mirror and saying enough,
[6:34] Speaker 1: it's enough, enough enough. And that could be to your children,
[6:38] Speaker 1: to the person that you love, your mate, your husband
[6:41] Speaker 1: or your wife, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your job, your church.
[6:45] Speaker 1: Everybody can abuse a pleaser, and the pleaser can't be
[6:50] Speaker 1: the person who's the saddest person in the room. I
[6:53] Speaker 1: always tell people you can't throw a party, and you
[6:56] Speaker 1: mad at your own party, And that's what I done.
[7:00] Speaker 2: I think you're doing that.
[7:00] Speaker 1: You know they're out there, it was supposed to be
[7:02] Speaker 1: having a good time, but you look at their face
[7:04] Speaker 1: and it's sad or angry.
[7:06] Speaker 3: Yes.
[7:06] Speaker 1: And now this conversation, when I right across your method,
[7:10] Speaker 1: your technique.
[7:11] Speaker 2: That's why I asked you earlier. You know a lot
[7:13] Speaker 2: of people talk.
[7:15] Speaker 1: About these techniques from their journalistic or their educational background.
[7:21] Speaker 1: You're talking about technique developed from your personal experience.
[7:24] Speaker 3: My personal experience. Talk to us, and it's really about
[7:27] Speaker 3: listening to the old youth. It's rediscovering you because we
[7:31] Speaker 3: all we all have that intuition, we have that voice
[7:35] Speaker 3: that's telling all night you know you shouldn't do that.
[7:37] Speaker 3: So and it's just really just undoing those people pleasing
[7:41] Speaker 3: patterns where you're not putting yourself first and putting yourself
[7:45] Speaker 3: first and making sure that you're happy, you're happy with
[7:50] Speaker 3: what you're doing. And it's like, for example, you know, well,
[7:54] Speaker 3: you're talking about children, because I have an adult child,
[7:57] Speaker 3: and it's really sometimes it's about her. But I had
[8:02] Speaker 3: to learn from her too, because she said boundaries with me.
[8:06] Speaker 3: So it's like, you know what, that is not a
[8:09] Speaker 3: bad thing because she's like, Mom, I can't do this
[8:13] Speaker 3: so and it's like, you're right, that's unfair for me
[8:17] Speaker 3: to ask you to do something that you can't possibly
[8:20] Speaker 3: give me your best. But I have to also reciprocate
[8:23] Speaker 3: that too, because she's ready, like hey, when stuff hit
[8:26] Speaker 3: the fan, here comes mom. You know, the savior. It's like,
[8:31] Speaker 3: I can't put my household in jeopardy because of some
[8:34] Speaker 3: of the decisions you made. So yeah, so it definitely
[8:39] Speaker 3: comes from really just having those conversations with yourself that
[8:44] Speaker 3: you already know. Really, it's really kind of just all
[8:47] Speaker 3: about reminding yourself of who you were and stepping into
[8:51] Speaker 3: that power so you can still be.
[8:54] Speaker 1: Now it's important returning to yourself. Let's talk about that,
[8:58] Speaker 1: because I feel that a lot of people to get
[9:00] Speaker 1: a certain age, they kind of throw their arms up
[9:03] Speaker 1: in the air. They give up because I'm forty, I'm fifty,
[9:08] Speaker 1: I'm sixty and seventy. I always tell people stop using
[9:11] Speaker 1: age as an excuse. And when I'm listening to returning
[9:15] Speaker 1: to yourself, that's what you're saying. There's an opportunity to
[9:19] Speaker 1: recover your lovel or disappointment at any age or direction
[9:24] Speaker 1: that you're leaving or living your life. Returning to yourself.
[9:28] Speaker 1: Talk to us, returning to yourself. You're number too old
[9:32] Speaker 1: who says that there's.
[9:33] Speaker 3: A limit on being happy. There's no time spend on
[9:38] Speaker 3: when or how I can be happy. I'm happy until
[9:41] Speaker 3: I'm no longer here, right, so you have to just
[9:48] Speaker 3: I had well, my blood pressure was up at one time,
[9:51] Speaker 3: and the doctor, Look, what do you call up where
[9:55] Speaker 3: it was. She's trying to put me on some medication. Yeah,
[9:59] Speaker 3: and she's like, I don't know what's going on in
[10:01] Speaker 3: your life, but that has changed. But you need to
[10:05] Speaker 3: fix this because this is not where you want to be.
[10:07] Speaker 3: And it's like, DoD, you're right, And I had to
[10:10] Speaker 3: go home and I had to clean out. Everybody had
[10:12] Speaker 3: to go because that was so a lot of us
[10:17] Speaker 3: tied to stress and also stressed affected your health, undue
[10:22] Speaker 3: stress that I allow to be put on me because
[10:25] Speaker 3: at the end of the day.
[10:26] Speaker 1: I start making those changes to reasons, A lot of
[10:29] Speaker 1: people not happy when you start making these changes, A
[10:32] Speaker 1: lot of people are not happy.
[10:34] Speaker 3: Well, who's gonna be happy? Me or you?
[10:35] Speaker 1: But I'm saying, we're talking to people out there who
[10:38] Speaker 1: want to do these things.
[10:39] Speaker 2: I don't want to make it sound like it's easy
[10:41] Speaker 2: to do.
[10:42] Speaker 3: No, it's never easy.
[10:43] Speaker 2: Okay, That's what I'm saying.
[10:44] Speaker 1: People, when you started making these adjustments, how do you
[10:48] Speaker 1: make these adjustments so there's some level of comfort for
[10:52] Speaker 1: yourself because you don't want to make people mad, But.
[10:56] Speaker 2: There is some people who are going to be mad,
[10:58] Speaker 2: are disappointed.
[10:59] Speaker 3: And that's okay because if they can't accept the you
[11:04] Speaker 3: and the set and the boundary. They weren't for you anyway,
[11:07] Speaker 3: so you have to be okay with losing some of
[11:11] Speaker 3: those folks that were draining you in the first place.
[11:15] Speaker 3: So it's a win win, it's a win win.
[11:19] Speaker 2: But please don't go anywhere.
[11:20] Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Master Class.
[11:30] Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations Master Class with me
[11:33] Speaker 1: Rashaun McDonald. It's always going to be a win win
[11:37] Speaker 1: because of the fact that, you know, I looked through
[11:39] Speaker 1: my life.
[11:40] Speaker 2: I grew up with six sisters and two brothers, Okay.
[11:42] Speaker 1: And I always remember my brother who's right after me,
[11:46] Speaker 1: follow me through high school, you know, so he had
[11:49] Speaker 1: to live with the you know, the accnfidence spent that
[11:52] Speaker 1: I had, and I didn't understand how it affected him.
[11:56] Speaker 1: And because I was living my life, I was trying
[11:59] Speaker 1: to Hey, I'm trying to learn my own steps.
[12:01] Speaker 2: I don't know who I am.
[12:02] Speaker 1: And so sometimes when you don't know the impact that
[12:06] Speaker 1: you have on people because you're so busy trying to
[12:09] Speaker 1: grow yourself up. And so this conversation we're having is
[12:12] Speaker 1: about allowing yourself to grow but in the process of growing,
[12:18] Speaker 1: you got less certain situations that you have been consistently
[12:21] Speaker 1: involved in.
[12:22] Speaker 3: Go yes, that's been draining you in the first place. Right,
[12:26] Speaker 3: my happiness will come first, period.
[12:29] Speaker 1: Now in your work for twelve weeks by design? What
[12:32] Speaker 1: transformation is possible in twelve weeks that wasn't happening in.
[12:36] Speaker 2: People's day to day lives before.
[12:38] Speaker 1: Because we talking about twelve weeks, you know roughly you
[12:41] Speaker 1: know three to four months, you know, depending on how
[12:45] Speaker 1: you want to pattern out your twelve weeks?
[12:47] Speaker 2: What what what? How could it happen?
[12:50] Speaker 3: When?
[12:50] Speaker 1: The reason I say that because you can you can
[12:52] Speaker 1: you skip a week or you have to do twelve
[12:54] Speaker 1: straight weeks.
[12:55] Speaker 3: It's still at your pace, okay, because not not each week,
[13:00] Speaker 3: because I got it broken down, so it is expands
[13:05] Speaker 3: across a couple of days and you're actually working and
[13:08] Speaker 3: answering questions. So it's deep. You're you're going within yourself.
[13:13] Speaker 3: So sometimes if you're not ready to move on to
[13:15] Speaker 3: the next week, that's what I'm saying, that is okay,
[13:17] Speaker 3: because it's still you. Is about you and building you.
[13:24] Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about getting into this.
[13:26] Speaker 1: If I'm talking to Teresa ed which your book about
[13:30] Speaker 1: changing your lives The Mirror Method.
[13:31] Speaker 2: Where can we go get that book? What website? What's
[13:34] Speaker 2: the name of your website?
[13:35] Speaker 3: It would be it's it's on Amazon. Okay. My website
[13:39] Speaker 3: is the Mirror Method Workbook dot com. And I also
[13:43] Speaker 3: have it in downloadable where you can just you know,
[13:47] Speaker 3: is where you can feel it, right, you know, right
[13:49] Speaker 3: there right versus having an actual boo because some people
[13:52] Speaker 3: don't write no more.
[13:55] Speaker 2: So I got it.
[13:56] Speaker 1: However you need it's ready, you're ready technology. You taking
[14:00] Speaker 1: advantage of yes, because we're talking about truths.
[14:04] Speaker 2: Correct, you know your truth? Well, you know.
[14:08] Speaker 1: It's my truth, but it's also tied to the people
[14:11] Speaker 1: that I'm impacting, and so can I ask you this?
[14:16] Speaker 2: Your people? Please it?
[14:18] Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know people please it? But I like
[14:21] Speaker 1: people to like me, and sometimes I don't. And most
[14:24] Speaker 1: people say I'm just a straight shooter, and sometimes I
[14:28] Speaker 1: say things that a lot of people can't believe. I say,
[14:33] Speaker 1: will you it's a person who's accepting of a people pleaser,
[14:38] Speaker 1: a user.
[14:42] Speaker 3: Accepting of people.
[14:45] Speaker 1: You know, come on, you know, when you get no
[14:49] Speaker 1: wrong people, you can make that phone calls. You come over,
[14:52] Speaker 1: take care of the kids, right right right right? Their
[14:57] Speaker 1: users so so want to point that out because that's
[15:02] Speaker 1: important that people who are pleasing people.
[15:05] Speaker 2: Are not working with people who have their best interests.
[15:10] Speaker 1: And so you so having that user in your life
[15:14] Speaker 1: is never going to be the right person that come
[15:16] Speaker 1: to you, that you go to for advice or trying
[15:20] Speaker 1: to change the values that don't benefit them talk to me.
[15:25] Speaker 3: So those are the poines you need to leave anyway.
[15:27] Speaker 3: That is see, that's the purpose of the book. So
[15:30] Speaker 3: now you're recognizing that what you're doing is allowing users
[15:36] Speaker 3: to continue using and still not putting you first. So
[15:40] Speaker 3: if folks are not a line in your setting your boundaries,
[15:45] Speaker 3: then there was probably pulling from you in the first place.
[15:48] Speaker 3: So then that's okay, right, that is okay And a
[15:52] Speaker 3: good way of I guess making that known is like,
[15:57] Speaker 3: why are you still people pleasing someone that taken from you?
[16:01] Speaker 3: When in a relationship is given take, it can't be
[16:04] Speaker 3: all all you giving and they just taking.
[16:06] Speaker 1: Now, with that being said, what do you believe is
[16:08] Speaker 1: the hardest truth to resell? When you people confront themselves
[16:14] Speaker 1: when they finally stop and look in the mirror. Because
[16:16] Speaker 1: this is about the mirror method, which is important because
[16:21] Speaker 1: you're looking in the mirror, confronting yourself.
[16:25] Speaker 3: Talk to me, the hardest thing of confronting yourself is,
[16:32] Speaker 3: I guess when say believe in those truths or those
[16:35] Speaker 3: lies that you've been telling yourself and actually seeing the truth,
[16:40] Speaker 3: that's about what's really going on. Because like when you're
[16:44] Speaker 3: in relationships, even with your spouse, you can you know
[16:48] Speaker 3: now it's okay for we know it's a compromise. But
[16:52] Speaker 3: it comes to a point where it's if you're always
[16:55] Speaker 3: the one giving, right, and then that mirror method is
[17:01] Speaker 3: putting it in your face like, hey, you're the one
[17:04] Speaker 3: is always giving, So why are you always giving? What
[17:08] Speaker 3: are you getting? And why aren't you standing how these
[17:13] Speaker 3: kids say standing on business to make sure you're getting
[17:16] Speaker 3: something too. You're the one that is always giving. So
[17:19] Speaker 3: it's that realization that hey, you gotta change, right.
[17:26] Speaker 1: So when we talk about this, if someone completes the
[17:29] Speaker 1: mirror method right and fully commits, when you use the
[17:32] Speaker 1: word fully commits, what does that mean?
[17:35] Speaker 3: Fully commit is accepting all those good, better or ugly
[17:39] Speaker 3: moments that you're gonna have to revisit and actually be
[17:42] Speaker 3: okay with, and that includes some people you're gonna have
[17:46] Speaker 3: to let go and be okay with that. You're gonna
[17:50] Speaker 3: have to be okay with that.
[17:51] Speaker 1: And it's all tied to your book that you can
[17:54] Speaker 1: get through Amazon. And then you said something about online
[17:57] Speaker 1: if they don't have a pen and paper, right, you.
[18:01] Speaker 3: Can all you can download it where you can just
[18:04] Speaker 3: you know, have it on your computer and just go
[18:06] Speaker 3: in and enter it that way where it's fillable, or
[18:09] Speaker 3: you can actually download it and just have the paper itself,
[18:12] Speaker 3: you know, like going to you just printer, just print
[18:14] Speaker 3: it out. So it's however you want to get it,
[18:17] Speaker 3: it is there for you.
[18:19] Speaker 2: So we're talking about truth. That's what's all this interview
[18:21] Speaker 2: about you.
[18:23] Speaker 3: What was your.
[18:24] Speaker 1: Hardest truth and what do you think the average person's
[18:27] Speaker 1: hardest truth when they're going through the mirror method process.
[18:31] Speaker 3: My hardest truth is really setting those boundaries and standing
[18:35] Speaker 3: on those boundaries, and folks that you thought were there,
[18:40] Speaker 3: you got the realization that they truly wasn't there, and
[18:43] Speaker 3: then that that missing or that morning of that person.
[18:47] Speaker 3: But then once you get through your mourning of that person,
[18:50] Speaker 3: you realize the person wasn't for you in first place.
[18:53] Speaker 3: So that's that free up some space for others. That's
[18:57] Speaker 3: truly gonna rock with you, to continue rocking with you.
[19:00] Speaker 1: I do, that's right, Teresa Everwards. She created her book
[19:04] Speaker 1: The Mirror Method from our own journey of overcoming people
[19:08] Speaker 1: pleasing and emotional exhaustion, and each week she offers simple,
[19:13] Speaker 1: honest exercise that lead to your real inner transformation. That's
[19:17] Speaker 1: the key here. You know, we're all trying to make money,
[19:21] Speaker 1: but you're trying to change lives. You're trying to help
[19:22] Speaker 1: people be better. We live in a society where, you know,
[19:26] Speaker 1: for the first time and our Black life, we use
[19:30] Speaker 1: the word therapy.
[19:31] Speaker 2: That was a no note in the black community, say
[19:33] Speaker 2: you're going to therapy. Was it COVID that.
[19:36] Speaker 1: Made that adjustment in our community or we were just
[19:38] Speaker 1: headed in that direction.
[19:40] Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit of both. But
[19:41] Speaker 3: COVID definitely brought it to the forefront quickly and we
[19:45] Speaker 3: saw that, hey, we need help because the mind is
[19:49] Speaker 3: a muscle too. So sometimes just like you go to
[19:52] Speaker 3: the gym to build your body, you got to build
[19:55] Speaker 3: you You got to have your mind too. And even you know,
[19:58] Speaker 3: I expressed that sometimes and I'm dealing with, you know,
[20:01] Speaker 3: talking with folks, and it's like it's okay to go
[20:03] Speaker 3: sit on sitting on that couch. You know. Now everything's virtual.
[20:06] Speaker 3: You don't necessarily have to go physically, but that muscle
[20:10] Speaker 3: you need somebody that has no agenda, you know, they
[20:17] Speaker 3: can truly give you those tools you know to because
[20:21] Speaker 3: we always want to just.
[20:23] Speaker 1: Not trying to give away the concept, but what are
[20:26] Speaker 1: some of the tools that you're talking about?
[20:29] Speaker 3: So for in my book and tools is more of
[20:32] Speaker 3: just that inner self of just writing, because you know,
[20:34] Speaker 3: writing that stuff, whether you type it in on a
[20:36] Speaker 3: computer or just writing it down, that's really that realization
[20:39] Speaker 3: of what's going on. Because you can think it all
[20:42] Speaker 3: you want to, but when you put that thing on
[20:43] Speaker 3: paper literally, you know, then you see it and it's
[20:47] Speaker 3: like okay, okay. So you don't have to use any
[20:51] Speaker 3: kind of tools per se other than your fingers. But
[20:54] Speaker 3: it's more of you getting okay with who you used
[20:59] Speaker 3: to be and saying that that is okay, awesome, that
[21:03] Speaker 3: is okay.
[21:03] Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. Terricha.
[21:05] Speaker 1: You know The Mirror Method Twelve Weeks to Stop Abandoning Yourself.
[21:09] Speaker 1: It's a twelve week guided workbook designed to help you
[21:12] Speaker 1: stop abandoning yourself and finally choose your own needs without
[21:16] Speaker 1: guilt as we close out this interview without guilt, because
[21:21] Speaker 1: the word guilt can hang on people hardy, really hard.
[21:29] Speaker 2: What do you mean when you say without guilt.
[21:32] Speaker 3: That guilt and almost like morning that you're going to
[21:35] Speaker 3: lose some people and making sure that you are okay
[21:41] Speaker 3: with that because it's going to be okay. It is
[21:43] Speaker 3: all in your best interests. And that's what it is
[21:46] Speaker 3: about finding that what you used to be and making
[21:50] Speaker 3: and saying that old person was okay, you know all
[21:54] Speaker 3: these new stuff not necessarily okay, and just being just
[22:00] Speaker 3: be okay with being okay.
[22:02] Speaker 2: I love that. I love it again. Where can we
[22:04] Speaker 2: get your book?
[22:05] Speaker 3: You can get it from Amazon or you go to
[22:08] Speaker 3: the Mirror Methodworkbook dot com and it has everything that
[22:11] Speaker 3: you need either Amazon or downloaded.
[22:13] Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations. She's
[22:16] Speaker 1: the one and only Tuisa Evers. Her book, The Mirror
[22:18] Speaker 1: Method Twelve Weeks to Stop Abandoning Yourself is a twelve
[22:21] Speaker 1: week guided workbook designed to help you stop abandoning yourself
[22:25] Speaker 1: and finally choose your own needs a purpose without guilt.
[22:29] Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on my shelf.
[22:30] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[22:32] Speaker 1: This has been money making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaun McDonald
[22:36] Speaker 1: thanks to I Guess and our audience. Visit Moneymakingconversations dot
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