# Work and Family: How to balance Work-Related Stress at Home and Work.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 30 Nov 2025, 27 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed, Annie Yatch. A leadership and performance coach specializing in helping high-achieving entrepreneurs balance business growth with personal fulfillment. The discussion focused on leadership, relationships, and overcoming subconscious barriers to success. 🔑 Key Themes & Highlights Balancing Business & Personal Life • Yatch helps ambitious entrepreneurs struggling to balance home life and business growth. • She emphasized that success at work doesn’t mean sacrificing relationships—leaders must redefine their roles at home. The Importance of Transition Time • Many entrepreneurs struggle to switch from work mode to home life, leading to stress in relationships. • Yatch recommends a 30-minute decompression routine before entering the home, including: • Writing down lingering work concerns. • Engaging in a mindless activity like listening to music. • Reflecting on positive memories with loved ones to shift emotional energy. Leadership Gaps in Entrepreneurs • Yatch identified three major leadership gaps that hold entrepreneurs back: • Delegation – Many leaders struggle to trust their teams, leading to micromanagement. • Feedback – Entrepreneurs must learn to give and receive feedback effectively without defensiveness. • Planning – Businesses often fail to plan for obstacles, focusing only on ideal scenarios. Trauma & Entrepreneurial Success • Yatch explained that many entrepreneurs have unresolved childhood trauma, leading them to create chaos in business as a way to regain control. • She emphasized that stability at home is crucial for scaling a business successfully. 📘 About Annie Yatch Annie Yatch is a team leadership and performance coach, specializing in helping entrepreneurs unlock their full potential. She is the founder of Northstar Leadership, a company dedicated to helping high-achieving men redefine leadership at home and in business. #AMI #BEST #STRAW #SHMS Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success. Business Podcast Entrepreneurship Small Business Business Growth Financial Literacy Wealth Building Black Entrepreneurs Minority Business Leadership Executive Leadership Business Funding Marketing Strategies Personal Development Startup Advice Sales Training CEO Interviews Founder Stories Professional Development Economic Empowerment Business Success Networking Brand Building Innovation How to start a business Small business funding Entrepreneur success stories Business leadership podcast Wealth building strategies Black entrepreneur podcast Minority business development Marketing for small businesses Business growth strategies Startup funding opportunities Executive leadership training Financial literacy education Success mindset podcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:05] Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
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[0:35] Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, this is Rashan McDonald. Welcome to Money
[0:37] Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass. As I stated earlier, the information and
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[1:13] Speaker 1: click the b I Guess button. Let's get this show
[1:16] Speaker 1: started because she's on the line. My guest transitioned from
[1:19] Speaker 1: her role as a consultant for the Defense Intelligence Agency
[1:23] Speaker 1: to become one of America's most prominent team leadership and
[1:26] Speaker 1: performance coaches from startups to multimillion dollar enterprises. She drives
[1:32] Speaker 1: consistent and remarkable results. Please, welcome to Money Making Conversation
[1:36] Speaker 1: Mathster Class, Annie Yachts. How are you doing, Annie?
[1:40] Speaker 3: I'm great. I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for
[1:42] Speaker 3: having me.
[1:43] Speaker 1: Now, where are you calling from? So I can make
[1:44] Speaker 1: sure everybody knows the democratic, the geographical location and time
[1:48] Speaker 1: zones you're working from today.
[1:50] Speaker 3: Well, I am out of person of Utah today. Okay,
[1:53] Speaker 3: So I'm in a good zone. I hope.
[1:55] Speaker 4: Good show.
[1:56] Speaker 1: Great, So I'm Eastsia two hours a two hour time
[2:00] Speaker 1: that's all different. Thank you for being able to marry
[2:02] Speaker 1: the time because it's a live show and you got
[2:05] Speaker 1: to call it on time. Now now, and this is
[2:08] Speaker 1: the first time we talked, and I I had you
[2:10] Speaker 1: on my podcast and the information you were delivering to
[2:13] Speaker 1: me and my audience on my podcast I thought was
[2:16] Speaker 1: so incredible. That I wanted to share to my live
[2:18] Speaker 1: audience in the Atlanta, Georgia area, and also streams the
[2:21] Speaker 1: worldwide on money making conversations Master Lives. Can you tell
[2:24] Speaker 1: everybody before we really get into the nuts and boats
[2:28] Speaker 1: of the interview, what you do?
[2:30] Speaker 3: Sure, I'd love to so I help very ambitious, high
[2:34] Speaker 3: performing entrepreneurs who struggle with that balance between home life
[2:38] Speaker 3: and business growth, who are really looking to scale and
[2:40] Speaker 3: grow rapidly, but they don't know what that missing link
[2:43] Speaker 3: is or what's pulling them back from obtaining more in
[2:46] Speaker 3: their life.
[2:47] Speaker 1: Now, he was the interesting thing about it because I
[2:49] Speaker 1: was going through the interview and then I went Norseal
[2:51] Speaker 1: Leadership is a company driven to help already successful mail
[2:57] Speaker 1: entrepreneurs surpass revenue sealing by redefining that leadership at home
[3:03] Speaker 1: and in the office, that balance. You always talking about
[3:07] Speaker 1: women and parenting and the children and all that, But
[3:11] Speaker 1: we tend to leave the stress that men are under.
[3:14] Speaker 1: How do they you know? They get up, We go,
[3:17] Speaker 1: we get up, I have to clean, I have to
[3:18] Speaker 1: include myself and it andy. We get up, we go
[3:20] Speaker 1: to work, deal with all that stress. Then we come
[3:24] Speaker 1: back home and we don't know how to kind of
[3:27] Speaker 1: like navigate the relationship we either have with our spouse
[3:30] Speaker 1: or the significant other who may be at home waiting
[3:33] Speaker 1: to have a conversation with you and you don't feel
[3:36] Speaker 1: you don't know how to turn it off or turn
[3:38] Speaker 1: it on. Talk to us about that transition.
[3:41] Speaker 3: Sure, that transition that honestly is one of the hardest
[3:43] Speaker 3: things for so many of the men that I coach,
[3:45] Speaker 3: because you're you know, you're on all day at the
[3:47] Speaker 3: office or in your business. You're absolutely crushing it, you're
[3:50] Speaker 3: getting validated because you're creating incredible impact. And then a
[3:53] Speaker 3: lot of men they'll sit in there, you know, in
[3:55] Speaker 3: their cars on the driveway and the way home and
[3:57] Speaker 3: just be like, gosh, I don't even know if I
[3:58] Speaker 3: want to go into my house right now because I
[4:00] Speaker 3: don't know what I'm going to walk into. And so
[4:02] Speaker 3: what's been interesting is when we talk about that transition,
[4:05] Speaker 3: it's almost like we got to make sure that men
[4:07] Speaker 3: have some downtime in between the office persona that they
[4:10] Speaker 3: need to play and that sort of husband lover, father
[4:14] Speaker 3: persona that they need to have now when they walk
[4:16] Speaker 3: through the door, and that transition time. For most men,
[4:19] Speaker 3: they don't get it. They don't have the ability to
[4:21] Speaker 3: have that time because they're rushing from one thing to
[4:23] Speaker 3: the next, and that also contributes to not being able
[4:25] Speaker 3: to turn off their brain or their mind and to
[4:27] Speaker 3: be really present with their family too.
[4:29] Speaker 1: Well, you know, and I have that problem too. I
[4:31] Speaker 1: do have that problem. I'll go home and in my
[4:34] Speaker 1: wife and go, oh, what you do today? And I
[4:36] Speaker 1: just look at her because I'll just look at her,
[4:40] Speaker 1: you know, because I know what I've done. But then
[4:43] Speaker 1: do I want.
[4:44] Speaker 3: To go through it all?
[4:46] Speaker 1: Share that information? And so can you give Rushaun McDonald
[4:51] Speaker 1: and my male listeners and also the women who are
[4:54] Speaker 1: listening to the show who are dealing with these issues
[4:57] Speaker 1: with men like me who come home knowing we have
[5:01] Speaker 1: to communicate, nor we because we've been communicating all day now,
[5:05] Speaker 1: It's not like we can't talk all day all day now.
[5:07] Speaker 1: We have to come out with dan do a different
[5:09] Speaker 1: version of it, but be comfortable about it and don't
[5:12] Speaker 1: feel like why are you bothering me type attitude talk
[5:15] Speaker 1: to Well.
[5:15] Speaker 3: Well, let me give you the secret sauce here. And
[5:17] Speaker 3: you might think this a little bit out there, right,
[5:19] Speaker 3: but what I can tell you is that if a
[5:21] Speaker 3: man is able to take some transition time between when
[5:23] Speaker 3: he leaves the office and he comes home. And what
[5:26] Speaker 3: I tell most men to do is I tell them
[5:27] Speaker 3: to think about, and this might be controversial, to think
[5:30] Speaker 3: about the time they've had with their spouse or significant
[5:33] Speaker 3: other where they were like they were feeling super sexually
[5:35] Speaker 3: connected to them, right, because that usually allows a man
[5:39] Speaker 3: to shift out of that work persona into something into
[5:42] Speaker 3: like that you know, more of that like husband lover persona,
[5:46] Speaker 3: and when you walk into the house feeling those feelings
[5:48] Speaker 3: of being more emotionally connected, then when your spouse says
[5:52] Speaker 3: to you, like, well, what'd you do today? Right, the
[5:54] Speaker 3: whole point there is you can either redirect it back
[5:57] Speaker 3: onto her and be like, well, maybe I want to
[5:58] Speaker 3: hear what you did today, you know? Or or right,
[6:02] Speaker 3: you can say you can walk in and you can
[6:03] Speaker 3: be like, you know what, I would love to just
[6:06] Speaker 3: have a moment to connect with you rather than going
[6:08] Speaker 3: back through my entire day, because connection is what's the
[6:11] Speaker 3: most important thing.
[6:12] Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, watch a movie or something,
[6:14] Speaker 1: or share our meal or do something together. That's what
[6:18] Speaker 1: you are suggesting.
[6:19] Speaker 3: Well, it could be that, but what I like to
[6:21] Speaker 3: have a lot of couples do, or significant others do
[6:24] Speaker 3: and they're together, is spend five minutes just almost like
[6:27] Speaker 3: sitting next to each other, touching each other, holding each
[6:30] Speaker 3: other's hands, even looking to each other's eyes, just to
[6:33] Speaker 3: calm the nervous system enough that men and women together
[6:36] Speaker 3: or significant others together can feel that connection again, because
[6:40] Speaker 3: when we rush through our day, we're not feeling the connection.
[6:43] Speaker 3: We're just going from one thing to the next thing.
[6:45] Speaker 3: And what most couples lack is that connection intimacy of
[6:49] Speaker 3: just staying into each other's eyes and seeing each other.
[6:51] Speaker 1: Now you say something that's a part of it. Yeah,
[6:53] Speaker 1: you say something early, and I'm like creating a down
[6:56] Speaker 1: moment like you said. Now, I don't go home and
[6:58] Speaker 1: sit in my driveway. You know, I don't do that now.
[7:01] Speaker 1: But sometimes when I my staff leaves at five, I'll
[7:05] Speaker 1: like an hour, I'll go through different things and because
[7:09] Speaker 1: I don't have them to deal with now now just
[7:11] Speaker 1: Shane by himself, and it allows me to slow down
[7:14] Speaker 1: a little bit and think about I might turn on ESPN,
[7:18] Speaker 1: I might do different things that have gotten me out
[7:21] Speaker 1: of this dominating.
[7:23] Speaker 3: We've got to decompress here, right, decompressed and so and
[7:26] Speaker 3: so is that is that what I'm doing right?
[7:28] Speaker 1: Would you suggest that to individuals who are dealing with
[7:32] Speaker 1: this massive amount of information they are dealing with at
[7:35] Speaker 1: the office before they go home talk to us.
[7:38] Speaker 3: Yes. So, what I typically recommend for almost all men
[7:41] Speaker 3: who are you know, high powered, high ambition guys, is
[7:44] Speaker 3: that they have to take at least half an hour
[7:46] Speaker 3: between leaving the office and getting home to decompress. And
[7:51] Speaker 3: usually what that looks like is I have them spend
[7:53] Speaker 3: about ten minutes writing down all the things that they're
[7:56] Speaker 3: concerned about, because at the end of the day, if
[7:58] Speaker 3: your brain is still looping on everything is the work on.
[8:00] Speaker 3: It feels like you have thousands of open loops and
[8:02] Speaker 3: we need to close those off in order for you
[8:04] Speaker 3: to be present when you get home. So the first
[8:06] Speaker 3: ten minutes you plan writing down everything that comes to
[8:09] Speaker 3: your mind that you don't want to forget or you're
[8:11] Speaker 3: worried about. Then you spend ten minutes doing some activity
[8:14] Speaker 3: that's a little bit mindless. It can be listening to
[8:16] Speaker 3: music that makes you feel jazzed up. It can be
[8:19] Speaker 3: taking a ten minute ESPN break. It could be anything
[8:21] Speaker 3: though that's not on your phone, per se but might
[8:24] Speaker 3: be on a screen in front of you. We just
[8:26] Speaker 3: don't want you to be locked into your phone, if
[8:28] Speaker 3: that's possible. And then after those ten minutes, I tell them,
[8:32] Speaker 3: for five to ten minutes, I want you to think
[8:34] Speaker 3: of all the amazing moments and memories you've had with
[8:37] Speaker 3: your spouse or significant other, and I want you to
[8:39] Speaker 3: go from whether it's a vacation you've been on together
[8:42] Speaker 3: or an incredible intimate encounter you've had. I just want
[8:45] Speaker 3: the men to think about that for five to ten
[8:47] Speaker 3: minutes before they leave the office, because that puts you
[8:50] Speaker 3: in a completely different zone of emotion, of feeling, of connection,
[8:55] Speaker 3: and it makes you want to go home to experience
[8:57] Speaker 3: more of that. So it's almost like a third minute,
[9:00] Speaker 3: you know, package of ten minutes, you know, just to
[9:02] Speaker 3: reset yourself a little bit and download everything from the day.
[9:05] Speaker 3: Ten minutes to be in a decompression zone, and then
[9:08] Speaker 3: ten minutes to be in the memories and the feelings
[9:10] Speaker 3: of how amazing your relationship has been in the past.
[9:13] Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Whoever's waiting on us at home,
[9:17] Speaker 1: they know, they know they know who's coming home. They
[9:21] Speaker 1: know they've they've been dealing with this what can they
[9:24] Speaker 1: do at the house waiting on this this, this non
[9:28] Speaker 1: verbally communicating master come through the door. There's there's wired up,
[9:35] Speaker 1: there's intense What can they do to prepare for that,
[9:39] Speaker 1: to offset it a little bit?
[9:41] Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you what I've coached a lot
[9:43] Speaker 3: of women on doing. But it may not be it
[9:45] Speaker 3: may be controversial.
[9:45] Speaker 1: Right, Oh no, no, don't do comperies controversial.
[9:48] Speaker 3: I was gonna tell you, like these women, I'm like,
[9:51] Speaker 3: it is your job, make sure that you have taken
[9:54] Speaker 3: at least half an hour to an hour for yourself,
[9:57] Speaker 3: but some way so that you're I'm not you know,
[10:01] Speaker 3: waiting for him to walk through the door to jump
[10:03] Speaker 3: on him. Right, right, You could jump on it if
[10:04] Speaker 3: you want to, in a hugging, like touching, kissing way. Right.
[10:07] Speaker 3: The whole point is when the man walks into the home,
[10:10] Speaker 3: we typically need to give him at least a wide
[10:12] Speaker 3: birth of ten to fifteen minutes him to settle in,
[10:15] Speaker 3: pepper him with questions or before we ask him about
[10:18] Speaker 3: his day, Like I just like to you know, when
[10:20] Speaker 3: I've been in relationships, I let the men walk into
[10:22] Speaker 3: the room, I say nothing other than maybe I'll go
[10:23] Speaker 3: over and give him a big hug and a kiss
[10:25] Speaker 3: and be like, I'm so happy you're home. And then
[10:27] Speaker 3: I distanced myself to give him time and space to settle.
[10:30] Speaker 3: And I make sure that when my man walks through
[10:32] Speaker 3: the door that I have done whatever I needed to
[10:35] Speaker 3: to calm my energy down and to get more into
[10:37] Speaker 3: this beautiful feminine connection vibe. Because from my perspective, the
[10:40] Speaker 3: man gets to what he gets to do to transition,
[10:42] Speaker 3: but so does the woman. We have a job to
[10:44] Speaker 3: do as well, right.
[10:45] Speaker 1: Because it's all about connecting. It's all about, you know,
[10:49] Speaker 1: carrying that moment of positivity and not allowing That's what
[10:53] Speaker 1: you said. Nor Star Leadership is a company driven to
[10:55] Speaker 1: help already successful male entrepreneurs. Is talk about revenue, that's
[11:00] Speaker 1: what you've been doing all day, but redefining a leadership
[11:03] Speaker 1: at home, and I should also say relationship at home
[11:07] Speaker 1: and in the office. That's that's why I was important
[11:09] Speaker 1: that I wanted to bring you on the show and
[11:11] Speaker 1: also be honest about what I'm doing and what, well
[11:14] Speaker 1: how I'm affected by. But you used the word when
[11:16] Speaker 1: we talked earlier, trauma, and how does that affect the entrepreneur?
[11:21] Speaker 1: The word trauma because you rarely hear well, you.
[11:24] Speaker 3: Rarely hear that word. But what I would tell everyone
[11:27] Speaker 3: listening is that when you are an entrepreneur, it means
[11:29] Speaker 3: that you've gone through something in your life that created
[11:33] Speaker 3: almost like some chaos that you wanted to be able
[11:36] Speaker 3: to manage and control. And so, as an entrepreneur, we
[11:39] Speaker 3: have had so many moments in our lives where we've
[11:42] Speaker 3: perceived a loss of control. And if you think about
[11:45] Speaker 3: back into your childhood, right these moments where you perceive
[11:48] Speaker 3: a loss of control and you feel helpless or unable
[11:51] Speaker 3: to respond to something, if you get really good at
[11:55] Speaker 3: managing that as a child, you're going to become an
[11:57] Speaker 3: entrepreneur because you can then get really good at putting
[12:00] Speaker 3: outsires and solving problems and being the person that everybody
[12:03] Speaker 3: comes to to get help or to get something done.
[12:06] Speaker 3: And so as entrepreneurs, it's really important to look at
[12:08] Speaker 3: your childhood a bit and be like, Okay, what was
[12:10] Speaker 3: my childhoodok what was there chaos there that I had
[12:12] Speaker 3: to manage? Because more often than not, we will create
[12:15] Speaker 3: chaos and business as an entrepreneur to try to manage
[12:19] Speaker 3: that same thing. And so I believe that all entrepreneurs
[12:22] Speaker 3: have some level of trauma in their background, and it's
[12:25] Speaker 3: very interesting to look at if you have a dynamic
[12:29] Speaker 3: in your home environment that's not as stable as you want.
[12:32] Speaker 3: I would say about ninety percent of entrepreneurs can't grow
[12:34] Speaker 3: and scale their business because they don't feel like they
[12:36] Speaker 3: have the stability at home to grow and scale, even
[12:39] Speaker 3: though they might want to, even though they might be
[12:41] Speaker 3: working around the clock and really grinding, they might not
[12:44] Speaker 3: be able to change the state of their business until
[12:46] Speaker 3: they lead differently at home and they take that then
[12:49] Speaker 3: into their business life.
[12:50] Speaker 1: Okay, good, this is all great. I feel I'm becoming
[12:53] Speaker 1: a better person, and hopefully every person who's listening is
[12:57] Speaker 1: becoming a better person. And really is the interviewers focusing
[12:59] Speaker 1: on the men and what we have to acknowledge because
[13:03] Speaker 1: pride sets in work like weakness to can set in
[13:07] Speaker 1: and hold back to change. There are a lot of
[13:11] Speaker 1: bad words that we use as men that prevent us
[13:15] Speaker 1: from making the steps that you are suggesting. Correct And it's.
[13:19] Speaker 3: Very very true, very true, and many men are you know,
[13:22] Speaker 3: we don't like to ask for help, whether we're high
[13:24] Speaker 3: powered men or high powered women, right because we think
[13:26] Speaker 3: that asking for help is something that makes us weak
[13:29] Speaker 3: or vulnerable. But the reality is, as we go to
[13:33] Speaker 3: higher levels of performance for ourselves in our business, the
[13:35] Speaker 3: more we ask for help, the more we allow other
[13:38] Speaker 3: people to be on purpose in our lives. So I
[13:42] Speaker 3: think of asking for help now, and I always tell
[13:44] Speaker 3: myself every single person that I ask for help from,
[13:47] Speaker 3: they can step into their purpose, which means they're going
[13:49] Speaker 3: to be more motivated, more inspired. And if I can
[13:51] Speaker 3: give that to a member of my team, then everybody
[13:54] Speaker 3: is winning. So I always look at asking for help
[13:57] Speaker 3: now as an ability to give somebody purpose. And so
[14:00] Speaker 3: we have to change some of these paradigms as to
[14:02] Speaker 3: how we think about ourselves and how we think about
[14:05] Speaker 3: reaching out for support, otherwise we aren't going to up
[14:08] Speaker 3: level our performance.
[14:09] Speaker 1: Cool. I'm speaking one of America's most prominent team leadership
[14:12] Speaker 1: and performance coaches. Northstow Leadership is a company. Her name any.
[14:17] Speaker 4: Yacht, Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with
[14:21] Speaker 4: more Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money
[14:30] Speaker 4: Making Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald. Money Making Conversations
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[14:45] Speaker 1: No leadership. That's the company that any Yacht founded is
[14:49] Speaker 1: driven to have already successful male entrepreneurs or past revenue
[14:53] Speaker 1: ceilings by redefining that leadership role at home and in
[14:56] Speaker 1: the office. I told you earlier any that this this
[15:00] Speaker 1: is a live show, unlike my podcast. So already my
[15:04] Speaker 1: phone is blowing up with text man okay, And one
[15:08] Speaker 1: of the questions that keeps coming back rotating on my
[15:12] Speaker 1: texts is okay, rashon, what about dual incomes? What about
[15:17] Speaker 1: if the woman works and the man works. Okay, she's
[15:20] Speaker 1: not waiting at home for him to arrive all ten
[15:23] Speaker 1: stuff and war not. How do you deal with that? Annie?
[15:27] Speaker 3: Yes, well I've got an answer for you. So here's
[15:30] Speaker 3: what it really comes down to, ladies and gentlemen. It
[15:32] Speaker 3: comes down to the fact that both partners in a
[15:35] Speaker 3: relationship need to spend time decompressing before they re enter
[15:40] Speaker 3: the connection point of their relationship, which is the home.
[15:43] Speaker 3: So I would say the same thing to a man
[15:44] Speaker 3: that I would say to a woman here, which is
[15:46] Speaker 3: you have to have that decompression transition time where you
[15:49] Speaker 3: reconnect to who you are as a connected spouse or partner,
[15:54] Speaker 3: so you can feel those same feelings that got you
[15:56] Speaker 3: involved in with that person from the get go. And
[15:58] Speaker 3: most of us we raised from job to home, to
[16:01] Speaker 3: dinner to you know, family time, then to bed, and
[16:04] Speaker 3: we're not very present for most of it. What I'm
[16:06] Speaker 3: asking everybody to do is slow way down and give
[16:09] Speaker 3: yourselves a chance to reconnect to the feeling that got
[16:12] Speaker 3: you into that relationship with that person to start, so
[16:15] Speaker 3: you can be much more present in all of your
[16:16] Speaker 3: interaction with them once you walk through those doors. Whether
[16:19] Speaker 3: you're the breadwinner or a dual breadwinner couple, or you know,
[16:22] Speaker 3: it's some variety of both of those now here.
[16:25] Speaker 1: It's something interesting that when we talk about entrepreneurship, I
[16:30] Speaker 1: always see people having different visions to their pathway to
[16:34] Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur. How did you see this as an
[16:37] Speaker 1: opportunity for you or did something happen period of time
[16:41] Speaker 1: you start seeing patterns in relationships, How did you develop
[16:45] Speaker 1: this as a form of entrepreneurship for your career?
[16:50] Speaker 3: So, to be really upfront with you, what I'd noticed.
[16:52] Speaker 3: I started working with a lot of companies at first,
[16:54] Speaker 3: and there were these high level executive teams that I
[16:56] Speaker 3: would work with, and what I started noticing is I
[16:59] Speaker 3: could teach the team how to be extreme high level performers,
[17:02] Speaker 3: but then the CEO or the entrepreneur would keep jumping
[17:05] Speaker 3: back in to try to fix things or change things
[17:08] Speaker 3: after the team was performing at a much higher level.
[17:10] Speaker 3: And after watching this for about ten years, I was like,
[17:13] Speaker 3: I can't teach the team. I've got to go after
[17:15] Speaker 3: this entrepreneur and figure out what is causing this entrepreneur
[17:19] Speaker 3: keep jumping back in even though the goal of the
[17:21] Speaker 3: entrepreneurs to get out of the organization and be able
[17:23] Speaker 3: to grow the organization without having to be involved in
[17:25] Speaker 3: the weeds all the time. And what I also realized
[17:28] Speaker 3: was these entrepreneurs they had some pattern in them that
[17:33] Speaker 3: was keeping them stuck in a certain level of their
[17:35] Speaker 3: own performance. So once I started digging in a little
[17:38] Speaker 3: bit deeper there, I started to see the patterns across
[17:40] Speaker 3: a variety of different entrepreneurs. And that's when I actually
[17:43] Speaker 3: realized with Sean that my ex husband and I we
[17:46] Speaker 3: had very similar trauma patterns that were causing us to
[17:51] Speaker 3: be stuck in our business. So when I was looking
[17:54] Speaker 3: at the patterns that we were in and I was
[17:56] Speaker 3: comparing those to all the other entrepreneurs that I'd worked with,
[17:58] Speaker 3: I started to see that there is almost always a
[18:02] Speaker 3: missing link or a blind spot in every single entrepreneur.
[18:05] Speaker 3: They literally cannot see what is stuck in their subconscious thought.
[18:09] Speaker 3: Because subconscious thought runs at about eleven million data points
[18:12] Speaker 3: a second, our conscious thought is only forty data points,
[18:16] Speaker 3: there's a lot missed in between. I actually just did
[18:19] Speaker 3: a session with the Gentleman last week, and he has
[18:22] Speaker 3: been caught in his business making a set amount of
[18:24] Speaker 3: money for years and he can't he couldn't get over
[18:27] Speaker 3: that barrier of getting to the next level. And I
[18:30] Speaker 3: sat down with him. I looked at the patterns between
[18:32] Speaker 3: his home life and his business life, and we were
[18:34] Speaker 3: able to identify that he wasn't stepping into more of
[18:37] Speaker 3: a masculine role in his home life, and he wasn't
[18:40] Speaker 3: stepping into the masculine role in his business. So once
[18:43] Speaker 3: we identified some ways to get him out of that
[18:45] Speaker 3: more i would say neutral or feminine role in his
[18:49] Speaker 3: home life or in his business, everything started to change.
[18:52] Speaker 3: He just texted me, He's like, I've already put it
[18:54] Speaker 3: into place the things you shared with me, and we
[18:56] Speaker 3: just grew this month by an extra ten k. So
[18:58] Speaker 3: it may not seem like a lot, but ten k
[19:00] Speaker 3: is a great change from one small change in your brain.
[19:04] Speaker 1: Wow, Now it's all about leadership. You know, we talk
[19:07] Speaker 1: about leadership a lot on this show. The word vision
[19:10] Speaker 1: areas used a lot in public and positive you know,
[19:13] Speaker 1: follow your passions and things like that. What are the
[19:16] Speaker 1: top three leadership gaps for both entrepreneurs.
[19:20] Speaker 3: That's an awesome question. I've found from the past fifteen
[19:23] Speaker 3: years of working with companies probably ranging from about a
[19:25] Speaker 3: million to one point two billion, that the top three
[19:28] Speaker 3: leadership gaps are. Number one, there's a delegation gap. Most
[19:32] Speaker 3: people are not very good at delegating. They're not good
[19:35] Speaker 3: at holding responsibility and passing it to other people. So
[19:38] Speaker 3: you have a lot of balls that are dropped unnecessarily
[19:41] Speaker 3: so in business. So delegation is the first one. The
[19:45] Speaker 3: second one is giving and receiving feedback. That is connecting
[19:49] Speaker 3: because almost always when we're giving feedback it's because quote
[19:51] Speaker 3: unquote we've done something wrong. Most of us get defensive,
[19:54] Speaker 3: we lose productivity because we start second guessing our skill set.
[19:58] Speaker 3: So we have to learn to give and receive feedback
[20:01] Speaker 3: in a way that's much more connecting to allow us
[20:04] Speaker 3: to keep our productivity very high. So the second one
[20:08] Speaker 3: is that feedback gap, and then the third one is
[20:10] Speaker 3: typically a planning gap. And most people think that they're
[20:14] Speaker 3: very good at planning, but what most companies and individuals
[20:18] Speaker 3: tend to do is they tend to plan for the
[20:20] Speaker 3: perfect plan. Not many people work on contingency planning, and
[20:24] Speaker 3: most people don't talk to their teams about how they
[20:27] Speaker 3: contingency plan, and so you end up everybody goes after
[20:31] Speaker 3: this perfect plan that everybody thinks is going to happen
[20:33] Speaker 3: to be great, but we haven't planned for all the
[20:35] Speaker 3: fires that are going to happen, all the issues that
[20:37] Speaker 3: are going to come up, and we haven't planned how
[20:39] Speaker 3: to solve those before we launch a plan that contingency planning.
[20:44] Speaker 1: Right, those are the three things, and I thank you
[20:46] Speaker 1: for sharing it with my audience. Fulfillment that's something that
[20:51] Speaker 1: drives me in that drives a lot of pentrebneus because
[20:54] Speaker 1: you because you if your goal or in a person,
[20:57] Speaker 1: then fulfillment is the goal, the complete but it's also
[21:01] Speaker 1: a consistency. But it also creates trauma because if you
[21:05] Speaker 1: don't see yourself achieving that level of fulfillment, then it
[21:09] Speaker 1: keeps not only where drama comes in, but also trauma
[21:13] Speaker 1: comes in there. Can you discuss that with my audience?
[21:16] Speaker 3: Yes. So one of the things that I realized from
[21:19] Speaker 3: working with all these entrepreneurs is that most of us
[21:22] Speaker 3: never really feel fulfilled and we don't feel a high
[21:25] Speaker 3: level of fulfillment because we're constantly going from one goal
[21:28] Speaker 3: or objective to the next, and when we get to
[21:30] Speaker 3: that goal or objective, we have a blip, like a
[21:33] Speaker 3: small moment of congratulating ourselves, and then we're on to
[21:37] Speaker 3: the next thing. So with most entrepreneurs that I worked with,
[21:40] Speaker 3: we had to redefine how we look at success because
[21:43] Speaker 3: what most people don't know and understand sometimes is that
[21:46] Speaker 3: and it's not our fault, right, we're conditioned to not
[21:49] Speaker 3: know that success is a feeling. So if success is
[21:52] Speaker 3: a feeling, and we redefine it to be, for example,
[21:56] Speaker 3: a sustainable feeling that we can experience every day that
[21:59] Speaker 3: can news over time, then success becomes something that we
[22:03] Speaker 3: can feel much more often. If we tie it to
[22:06] Speaker 3: a goal or to an objective, then we're constantly striving
[22:08] Speaker 3: trying to get to that feeling of getting to that
[22:10] Speaker 3: objective instead of creating a life for ourselves where we
[22:14] Speaker 3: feel good every day because we've redefined what success means
[22:17] Speaker 3: to us. So I spent a lot of time with
[22:20] Speaker 3: entrepreneurs looking at, well, what is your ideal day? And
[22:22] Speaker 3: how do we create that for you? And from that
[22:25] Speaker 3: ideal day and that feeling that you get from it,
[22:27] Speaker 3: how do we bring that into more of your business experience?
[22:30] Speaker 1: And you know, I want to share something with my
[22:32] Speaker 1: audience as well as you, Like I get up at
[22:33] Speaker 1: four thirty, and sometimes I fell into a bad habit
[22:38] Speaker 1: of working before I got to work, And so when
[22:42] Speaker 1: I got to work, I found myself just sitting in
[22:44] Speaker 1: my office going what do I do? Because I've already
[22:48] Speaker 1: completed so much work? So and so now I've learned, Okay,
[22:52] Speaker 1: we're shull, relax, stretch. Do use that moment of getting
[22:56] Speaker 1: up early. You can do some work, but don't turn
[22:59] Speaker 1: it into work. And when you get to work, then
[23:02] Speaker 1: it allows a comfortable transition for you and your employees
[23:06] Speaker 1: to be able to relate because you can come sometimes
[23:09] Speaker 1: start your job too far ahead of your employees and
[23:13] Speaker 1: so they just stand at you going okay, what coffee
[23:15] Speaker 1: did he drink? All right, can he slow down from me?
[23:18] Speaker 1: Can you help me out? And so my last question
[23:21] Speaker 1: is as we wrap up this interview, is that how
[23:24] Speaker 1: can as a leader, as an entrepreneur, the relationship between
[23:28] Speaker 1: your employees and you, how can you make that better?
[23:31] Speaker 1: And I may have shared something on my end that
[23:34] Speaker 1: I'm trying to do better that that means not come
[23:36] Speaker 1: in the room so fired up that you you fatigue,
[23:39] Speaker 1: got you your staff, or intimidate them. What are your suggestions?
[23:44] Speaker 3: So I have a couple of suggestions. I think the
[23:46] Speaker 3: first thing, well, the first one, honestly, is that we've
[23:54] Speaker 3: got to as entrepreneurs, we have to embody this like
[23:58] Speaker 3: this way of going about our lives where we actually
[24:00] Speaker 3: we feel better and we show our team that we're
[24:03] Speaker 3: not grinding twenty four to seven. So one of the
[24:06] Speaker 3: first things I tell entrepreneurs is if you want to
[24:07] Speaker 3: connect more deeply with your team, you have to show
[24:09] Speaker 3: them that you're taking time for yourself and making sure
[24:13] Speaker 3: that you're in the right mental space. So for me,
[24:16] Speaker 3: when I frontload my day, I don't get up at
[24:18] Speaker 3: four thirty in the morning because I'm going to do
[24:20] Speaker 3: a lot of extra work. I get up at four
[24:21] Speaker 3: thirty in the morning to make sure that I can
[24:23] Speaker 3: do all the things that matter to me, Like I
[24:24] Speaker 3: make sure I have an amazing breakfast, I get a
[24:27] Speaker 3: great workout in, I have some time with my Bible,
[24:30] Speaker 3: I talk to a couple of my amazing friends or
[24:32] Speaker 3: partners in this leadership work that I do. I make
[24:35] Speaker 3: sure I have a lot of connection early on in
[24:37] Speaker 3: the morning because that allows me to show up filled
[24:40] Speaker 3: up before I ever interact with my employees. I'm filled up,
[24:43] Speaker 3: I'm calm, I'm connected, and people feel that energy when
[24:47] Speaker 3: you walk in the door, and then they feel like, wow,
[24:49] Speaker 3: I want to be like that. I want to have
[24:50] Speaker 3: that same feeling, and then they start taking better care
[24:52] Speaker 3: of themselves as well, because again, if we want the
[24:55] Speaker 3: whole team to win, we all have to sort of
[24:57] Speaker 3: take ourselves to that next level of performance, which might
[24:59] Speaker 3: not me working really early in the morning. It might
[25:02] Speaker 3: be taking care of ourselves in front, loading our day
[25:04] Speaker 3: with some wins that when we walk into the office,
[25:07] Speaker 3: we've got the best energy we can have to attract
[25:10] Speaker 3: the most business and to attract the highest level of
[25:12] Speaker 3: performance from our team.
[25:13] Speaker 1: As usually, You're amazing, Annie, Can you tell people with
[25:17] Speaker 1: my audience, how we can reach out and you know contact.
[25:20] Speaker 3: You of course, well you can find me on Instagram,
[25:24] Speaker 3: Northstar dot Annie, or you can also always email me
[25:27] Speaker 3: Annie A N N I E at north Star Leadership
[25:30] Speaker 3: School dot com.
[25:32] Speaker 1: Thank you my friend, and we will talk soon, because
[25:35] Speaker 1: I would tell you, just like free therapy for we shine,
[25:37] Speaker 1: it makes me a better person, makes me a better person,
[25:40] Speaker 1: but also hopefully amazing to go makes hopefully I'm sure
[25:43] Speaker 1: it makes a lot of my audience members. And because
[25:46] Speaker 1: again the fact that men needs men need to start
[25:49] Speaker 1: acknowledging not flaws, just just energies that are not comfortable.
[25:55] Speaker 1: When you go home and say I'm honey, I'm home
[25:58] Speaker 1: and know you're not, you just walk through the door.
[26:01] Speaker 1: You should walk through the door understanding that you need
[26:05] Speaker 1: to calm down and there's a person who's going to
[26:07] Speaker 1: start talking to you, and you should show appreciation that
[26:10] Speaker 1: they care enough to want to talk to you.
[26:14] Speaker 3: Is very true.
[26:15] Speaker 1: All I want to do is I appreciate Jan we
[26:18] Speaker 1: talked to my friend. Thank you for coming on Money
[26:19] Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass. Talk to him. This has been another
[26:23] Speaker 1: edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass posted by me Rashaun McDonald.
[26:27] Speaker 1: Thank you to our guests on the show today, and
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