# Brand Building: Discussing the power of relationships with "Family Business" Executive Producer and Director.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 11 Nov 2025, 37 min.

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Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Trey Haley. 🎯 Purpose of the Interview The interview aims to: • Inspire creatives and entrepreneurs by sharing Trey Haley’s journey in the entertainment industry. • Highlight the importance of persistence, self-belief, and strategic networking. • Promote Haley’s current work, especially the BET+ series The Family Business. • Educate listeners on the realities of Hollywood and the long-term mindset needed for success. 🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Origin Story & Early Influences • Trey Haley grew up in Dallas-Fort Worth, with a mother in corporate sales and a father who was a criminal defense attorney. • His passion for entertainment began early, influenced by music, Spike Lee scripts, and editing during college at North Texas. 2. Leap of Faith to Los Angeles • Moved to LA with no backup plan, driven by passion. • Took a courier job to network and eventually landed an internship with Morgan Freeman’s company, Revelations Entertainment. 3. Building Tri Destin Studios • Co-founded Tri Destin Studios with Nikita De Brown Jones. • Emphasized creating their own lane and owning their content. • Their goal: “Change the perception of the world” through storytelling where “we always win.” 4. The Family Business • Based on Carl Weber’s bestselling book series. • Independently produced before BET+ picked it up. • Features a star-studded cast including Ernie Hudson, Valerie Pettiford, Michael Jai White, and Javicia Leslie. 5. Industry Wisdom • Success in Hollywood is about relationships, consistency, and character. • Warns against shortcuts and “hook-up culture” in entertainment. • Encourages young creatives to focus on talent, value, and long-term growth. 🗣️ Notable Quotes • On taking risks: “My mother said, go jump off the ledge and go fly like a bird.” • On self-belief: “Who told you you could be an attorney? Nobody. You figured it out. I’m going to figure it out too.” • On breaking into the industry: “I took a courier job just to meet people in the studios. I dressed like I worked there so they’d see me the way I needed to be seen.” • On creating value: “The most powerful people create their own companies, their own stories, and tell them consistently.” • On longevity: “If your roots aren’t settled and strong, anything can take you out.” • On perspective: “Your perspective in life is the key. If you see negative, you’ll get negative. If you see the win, you’ll fly high.” 📺 Current Project Highlight The Family Business • Streaming on BET+ • Multi-season crime drama with layered storytelling and strong character development. • Haley serves as executive producer and director. #SHMS #STRAW #BEST Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushion McDonald is America's premier entrepreneurship, business leadership, financial literacy, and wealth-building podcast featuring successful entrepreneurs, executives, founders, celebrities, and industry experts sharing actionable insights for professional and financial success. Business Podcast Entrepreneurship Small Business Business Growth Financial Literacy Wealth Building Black Entrepreneurs Minority Business Leadership Executive Leadership Business Funding Marketing Strategies Personal Development Startup Advice Sales Training CEO Interviews Founder Stories Professional Development Economic Empowerment Business Success Networking Brand Building…

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. I host the weekly Money Making
[0:02] Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and information that this show
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[0:22] Speaker 1: small business owner, entrepreneur, motivational speaker, influencer, or nonprofit now
[0:28] Speaker 1: let's get busy. My guest is President and partner at
[0:31] Speaker 1: Tri Destined Studios. He is also the company's lead director
[0:35] Speaker 1: with more than sixty TV episodes and feature lengths storytelling.
[0:39] Speaker 1: His latest project is the BT plus hit crime drama
[0:43] Speaker 1: The Family Business, where he serves as both director and
[0:46] Speaker 1: co executive producer. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Master Class.
[0:51] Speaker 1: Trey Hayley. HOI you doing, Tray, I'm doing well?
[0:54] Speaker 2: How you doing? Thank you for having me cool?
[0:56] Speaker 1: Where are you based at, Trey?
[0:58] Speaker 2: I'm based out of Los Angeles.
[0:59] Speaker 3: I'm in I'm in the Dallas for Ward area right now,
[1:03] Speaker 3: but which is home for me?
[1:04] Speaker 2: But like I'm born and raised, but I live in
[1:06] Speaker 2: Los Angeles.
[1:07] Speaker 1: Oh. I lived in Los Angeles fifteen years and I've
[1:10] Speaker 1: lived there from nineteen ninety. When I went out there,
[1:13] Speaker 1: thought I was going to be the next Eddie Murphy.
[1:15] Speaker 1: Okay until two thousand and five with Steve Harvey and
[1:18] Speaker 1: I then we moved from LA to New York and
[1:22] Speaker 1: WLS to start radio syndication, the Steve hard Morning Show.
[1:26] Speaker 1: So very familiar with that industry. What allows you to
[1:31] Speaker 1: live in a life in Los Angeles but also maintain
[1:35] Speaker 1: a residency or a lifestyle in Dallas.
[1:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
[1:40] Speaker 3: Like eighty percent of the time I'm in Los Angeles
[1:43] Speaker 3: obviously filming and working, but home is still here.
[1:46] Speaker 2: My family is here.
[1:47] Speaker 3: Like as far as my family, you know, my roots
[1:49] Speaker 3: are from the Dallas for Worth area Arly team specifically,
[1:52] Speaker 3: and you know, I come out here and make sure
[1:54] Speaker 3: I keep it cool with my dad and make sure
[1:57] Speaker 3: everybody's you know, everybody is good. You know.
[2:00] Speaker 1: The reason I bring it up because I was born
[2:03] Speaker 1: in Houston, And yeah, you know, I've got a degree
[2:05] Speaker 1: in mathematics that work for IBM minor and sociology, and
[2:10] Speaker 1: that's what everybody understood. That's that's well, you're doing it man.
[2:14] Speaker 1: You got a great job. And then when I started
[2:17] Speaker 1: going towards stand up comedy, people didn't understand that. They
[2:22] Speaker 1: couldn't put two and two together. They can understand a
[2:25] Speaker 1: mailman's job, a bankman's job, a banker's job, but they
[2:29] Speaker 1: couldn't understand the industry of entertainment. Talk about your life
[2:33] Speaker 1: when you you went to college in North Texas state,
[2:36] Speaker 1: correct Texas. Yes, and say so when you start looking
[2:40] Speaker 1: at this entertainment factor as part of your dream.
[2:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's funny, did you say that? You
[2:46] Speaker 3: know you have something to come with? My mother she
[2:50] Speaker 3: was a sales who was in sales.
[2:51] Speaker 2: At IBM Kodac. She was that was her industry as well.
[2:55] Speaker 2: You know me growing up around that.
[2:57] Speaker 3: My father is a defense attorney here in the Daubts
[3:03] Speaker 3: Forward area, Leon Haley Jr. A lot of people knowing
[3:07] Speaker 3: he does all the crazy criminal trials and all that
[3:10] Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
[3:10] Speaker 2: He was a trial lawyer.
[3:11] Speaker 3: So being around that is the exact opposite of what
[3:14] Speaker 3: I ended up doing. Right, So, now you know what
[3:17] Speaker 3: I told him, I'm ready to go to Los Angeles
[3:19] Speaker 3: and I found my passion. It really came from man.
[3:22] Speaker 3: You know, like I knew early on, I wanted to
[3:25] Speaker 3: get in entertainments. I thought it was going to probably
[3:27] Speaker 3: be in the music. A lot of my friends, a
[3:29] Speaker 3: particular friend of mine, he was in high school. He
[3:31] Speaker 3: was always into acting. We would read the Spike Lee
[3:33] Speaker 3: script books and all these kind of things, and just
[3:36] Speaker 3: was really vibing all this stuff. And I was really
[3:38] Speaker 3: getting into. Like I said, I played instruments all my
[3:41] Speaker 3: life as a kid, but the whole behind the scenes
[3:45] Speaker 3: and the creation of making films TV, all this came
[3:50] Speaker 3: really really intriguing to me. Came, I mean, and it
[3:52] Speaker 3: got deeper when I realized I had a craft for editing.
[3:56] Speaker 3: I learned it when I was at North Texas. I
[3:58] Speaker 3: did an internship there, and that's where it triggered. When
[4:02] Speaker 3: I was up till two three o'clock at night working
[4:05] Speaker 3: at that cable station, and I was editing my own stuff, man,
[4:09] Speaker 3: while everybody was down. And that's when I knew I needed,
[4:12] Speaker 3: you know, the passion for doing this. I had to
[4:17] Speaker 3: move that time. Nowadays, you know, you can do this everywhere,
[4:21] Speaker 3: but that time I knew I needed to get to
[4:23] Speaker 3: Los Angeles and really pursue.
[4:26] Speaker 2: This and I had no backup plan. This was it.
[4:30] Speaker 3: My mother was like, go jump off the ledge and
[4:33] Speaker 3: go fly like a bird. My dad said, when I
[4:36] Speaker 3: was waiting, waiting, who do you know in Los Angeles?
[4:39] Speaker 1: My dad?
[4:40] Speaker 3: I said, Dad, remember this. My dad came from a very, very,
[4:43] Speaker 3: you know, humble beginning. He was one of six seven kids,
[4:46] Speaker 3: the oldest, two bedroom house, all of them living together.
[4:51] Speaker 2: And I said, who told you? I remember this story?
[4:53] Speaker 2: Who told you you could be an attorney? You? Your
[4:57] Speaker 2: mama didn't know, your gaddy didn't know nothing about it.
[5:01] Speaker 2: So parallel here we are parallels. You just went out
[5:05] Speaker 2: to d C.
[5:06] Speaker 3: You went to college, You went to college and UTA
[5:08] Speaker 3: and then went to law school in d C. Now
[5:10] Speaker 3: who told this man he.
[5:12] Speaker 2: Could do this? So I said, so, Dad, you did it.
[5:16] Speaker 2: I'm doing it.
[5:17] Speaker 3: Just like you believed in yourself and you figured it out.
[5:19] Speaker 3: I'm gonna go figure it out.
[5:20] Speaker 4: You know what.
[5:20] Speaker 2: He said, let's go, We'll moving to LA.
[5:23] Speaker 1: But liked now you tis University of Texas all the time,
[5:29] Speaker 1: Texas born, you know, Texas born and raised. So I
[5:32] Speaker 1: know all those little numbers, those little letters when you
[5:34] Speaker 1: start putting this together, because it's important that I bring
[5:37] Speaker 1: that up because so many people who are listening to
[5:40] Speaker 1: this car are afraid. They're afraid to tell people what
[5:43] Speaker 1: they want to be. Yes, afraid of the backlash, afraid
[5:47] Speaker 1: of people laughing at afraid of people questioning their direction.
[5:51] Speaker 1: And you had the great parent, a great conversation with
[5:54] Speaker 1: your parents and parents, and I know the story you
[5:57] Speaker 1: just told wasn't this. They had a lot more more too.
[6:01] Speaker 1: Layers do it, a lot of layers. But making the
[6:05] Speaker 1: transition to go to LA because I went from Houston
[6:08] Speaker 1: and I was very successful in Houston. I went to
[6:10] Speaker 1: New York stayed there two years. Then I went to
[6:13] Speaker 1: Los Angeles and I stayed there for fifteen years because,
[6:16] Speaker 1: like you said, those were the places you had to
[6:19] Speaker 1: go to really understand the business and become a part
[6:24] Speaker 1: of the business. Yes, talk about that journey when you
[6:26] Speaker 1: decided to go because you didn't know anybody, Tray.
[6:30] Speaker 2: I didn't when I moved to Los Angeles, no joke.
[6:32] Speaker 3: All I knew was to sign when I saw when
[6:34] Speaker 3: I got there, I saw that sign Hollywood, and I
[6:37] Speaker 3: knew I was there. I was seeing all these trailers
[6:38] Speaker 3: and all the movie stuff, and I saw the studios.
[6:41] Speaker 3: I was like Okay, Now I got to figure this out.
[6:43] Speaker 3: And but you know, when you do these things, you
[6:45] Speaker 3: don't go blindly. I did come out there about three
[6:48] Speaker 3: or four months prior to that checked it out. I
[6:51] Speaker 3: knew I didn't know someone in my family that had
[6:53] Speaker 3: a place a friend of theirs had a place for
[6:56] Speaker 3: me to I could possibly stay, right. I knew I
[6:59] Speaker 3: had that part in the next phase. I knew I
[7:01] Speaker 3: knew it was smart enough to get a job, right,
[7:03] Speaker 3: So I got on. I got me a nine to
[7:05] Speaker 3: five job when I moved out there quick to just thought.
[7:08] Speaker 3: I know I was going to have some income until
[7:09] Speaker 3: I could figure it out. So I did have that plan.
[7:11] Speaker 3: I said, let me get a job and I'm gonna
[7:13] Speaker 3: figure this thing out step by step. And along the way, man,
[7:16] Speaker 3: I ended up going to like different film festivals and
[7:20] Speaker 3: just putting myself into the mix.
[7:22] Speaker 2: And along the way.
[7:25] Speaker 3: Three or four months later, I ended up meeting my
[7:26] Speaker 3: business partner, who's my business partners today, Nicaio d Brown Jones.
[7:30] Speaker 3: She's the showrunner of Family Business, and we created Try
[7:33] Speaker 3: Destined together, and the whole group of friends I met
[7:38] Speaker 3: them all at this at a film festival a little
[7:41] Speaker 3: or Not and we shot short films and we were
[7:43] Speaker 3: doing things together and then that's when we realized, Yo,
[7:46] Speaker 3: we might do something here, you know. And we just
[7:49] Speaker 3: all had a dream and we said, all of us
[7:51] Speaker 3: came from different places. A lot of people came from
[7:54] Speaker 3: the HBCUs, a heavy portion of our company from Florida
[7:58] Speaker 3: A and M University, and we all just had a dream, man,
[8:02] Speaker 3: and we said as a team, we realized as a
[8:04] Speaker 3: team effort, you got to stick together, find group of
[8:07] Speaker 3: people with the common goals. And it worked out. I
[8:11] Speaker 3: ended up doing funny enough. The first person who got
[8:14] Speaker 3: me a job in the industry, though, was a gentleman
[8:18] Speaker 3: named Darren Grant. Darren Grant is a you know, music
[8:21] Speaker 3: video director. He's sent a lot of movies and stuff
[8:23] Speaker 3: like that. But at the time he was doing all
[8:24] Speaker 3: the big he was doing all the big like Destiny's
[8:30] Speaker 3: Child videos and.
[8:31] Speaker 1: All that million dollar videos.
[8:32] Speaker 3: Back then when they were doing the big super videos.
[8:35] Speaker 3: It was like Hype Williams, him and a couple of
[8:36] Speaker 3: people with Maya. He was doing all those big videos.
[8:39] Speaker 3: And I remember him letting me on set man, and
[8:41] Speaker 3: he gave me a first opportunity to to be a
[8:45] Speaker 3: PA on set and I learned from there, and I
[8:49] Speaker 3: went from there, man, and and it just I ended
[8:52] Speaker 3: up doing that.
[8:54] Speaker 2: For a while.
[8:55] Speaker 1: Let's talk about that timeline. I'm very familiar with that timeline. Yes,
[8:59] Speaker 1: when the music videos were because the group will remember
[9:03] Speaker 1: the power of B E T. Yeah, mem TV were
[9:06] Speaker 1: talking about B E T E music. Williams. Well, these
[9:09] Speaker 1: videos were ranging from anywhere from a million dollars to
[9:13] Speaker 1: five million dollars. I mean you go on the set,
[9:16] Speaker 1: I mean casting sessions. It was an incredible it was
[9:20] Speaker 1: an incredible experience. Tell people that timeline. And then when
[9:24] Speaker 1: you started to notice in the business change in the
[9:27] Speaker 1: music industry, because it just got out of control as
[9:30] Speaker 1: far as.
[9:32] Speaker 3: The videos, the videos, Like I said, I got a
[9:38] Speaker 3: chance to see this, and you know, for me at
[9:39] Speaker 3: that time, I thought this was the way to break
[9:41] Speaker 3: in as a director doing music videos, doing this type
[9:45] Speaker 3: of stuff. And then because from what I saw is
[9:46] Speaker 3: the trajectory was music videos, that kind of stuff. And
[9:50] Speaker 3: then they hired and you know, they see what you do,
[9:53] Speaker 3: and all these guys are starting to get jobs as
[9:55] Speaker 3: directors to do movies and all this other stuff.
[9:57] Speaker 2: Right, So.
[10:00] Speaker 3: Seeing that, man, and along the way, it just was
[10:04] Speaker 3: strange because it went it went to total opposite way.
[10:08] Speaker 3: And that's what the interesting thing about this industry is,
[10:11] Speaker 3: there's no one way to make it. You just the
[10:14] Speaker 3: one way to make it is to be consistent and
[10:17] Speaker 3: do good work and be good to people, you know
[10:19] Speaker 3: what I'm saying, for sure, and add value to people's
[10:23] Speaker 3: lives so hopefully they can add value back to your life.
[10:26] Speaker 3: But finding ways to be of value to people I
[10:30] Speaker 3: found is also really crucial along the way. But doing
[10:34] Speaker 3: those videos and then, like I said, I end up
[10:36] Speaker 3: realizing the way as I started seeing the video world
[10:40] Speaker 3: kind of transitioning a little bit out of the big
[10:43] Speaker 3: video world, and I was like, maybe this might not
[10:44] Speaker 3: be let me, let me find my own journey, right,
[10:48] Speaker 3: so to say, like, let's not try to do what
[10:50] Speaker 3: everybody else is doing.
[10:51] Speaker 2: Just do you whatever God is telling you to go go.
[10:54] Speaker 2: And I end up being getting a job.
[10:56] Speaker 3: I did a courier job because I wanted to meet
[10:59] Speaker 3: people in the studios, so I ain't taking a courier
[11:03] Speaker 3: driving at that time. We you know, now everything is digital.
[11:06] Speaker 3: Back in the day, you used to have scripts that
[11:08] Speaker 3: was delivered to you from a courier job or like
[11:12] Speaker 3: a headshots coming to you from different people coming in
[11:14] Speaker 3: and dropping it off. Why did this look we had
[11:17] Speaker 3: an outfit on and everything. You used to have these
[11:18] Speaker 3: little but you know, polo outfits. Hey, I would take
[11:22] Speaker 3: the shirt off and put a button down shirt on
[11:24] Speaker 3: and some slacks. And I was coming in walking around
[11:26] Speaker 3: with these things and walking in and they were like, man,
[11:28] Speaker 3: you work for the courier Service while while you dressed
[11:30] Speaker 3: up like you work with us.
[11:34] Speaker 2: I needed them to see me the way.
[11:35] Speaker 3: I needed them to see the way, not what I
[11:38] Speaker 3: was doing, but I needed them to see me right.
[11:41] Speaker 2: And it ended up working out.
[11:42] Speaker 3: I meeting someone at TNT and because my route was
[11:45] Speaker 3: TNT and Century City Fox Studios, that was the route
[11:49] Speaker 3: I did. And a young lady worked to TNT said, hey,
[11:52] Speaker 3: you know there's some internships that go through the studio
[11:54] Speaker 3: system that a lot of people don't know about.
[11:56] Speaker 2: You should submit for them. I submitted.
[11:58] Speaker 3: Long story short, I end up get an internship with
[12:01] Speaker 3: Morgan Freeman's company, Relevations Entertainment, and I worked. I was
[12:05] Speaker 3: with them for six months man two days a week
[12:08] Speaker 3: for free, uh huh. And it was one of the
[12:11] Speaker 3: best educations I ever had because part of what they
[12:15] Speaker 3: gave you in return is putting you in the room
[12:18] Speaker 3: while they were doing everything. So not only was I
[12:21] Speaker 3: doing coverage on scripts, when they had meetings or they
[12:25] Speaker 3: would or at the end of the day, they would
[12:27] Speaker 3: show us about pitch decks and this and this and this,
[12:29] Speaker 3: and that was their way of giving back to us, right.
[12:31] Speaker 2: It was amazing.
[12:33] Speaker 1: Wow, I'm talking to Trey Daniels. I mean trade, I apologize,
[12:37] Speaker 1: Trey Hayley is Hey, Trey. The thing about it is that,
[12:42] Speaker 1: this is what I love about this conversation is that
[12:46] Speaker 1: to get where I got in life, I did a
[12:47] Speaker 1: lot of things for free. Yep. And a lot of
[12:50] Speaker 1: people think you should ask for money. I'm not telling
[12:53] Speaker 1: you shouldn't ask for money, but a lot of your
[12:55] Speaker 1: best lessons and your best opportunities are in your case
[12:59] Speaker 1: into are you volunteer? Obviously can I come along, but
[13:04] Speaker 1: in a professional manner. But what he showed in changing
[13:08] Speaker 1: out there was our fits was commitment and consistency. And
[13:12] Speaker 1: he's a handsome guy, so I can imagine back there
[13:14] Speaker 1: he was this young, handsome guy, eager, and the people
[13:18] Speaker 1: saw that. They saw that. I know that in the industry,
[13:22] Speaker 1: it's the hustle man, and how you hustle and how
[13:26] Speaker 1: you present yourself. And that's what this show is about, Trey,
[13:30] Speaker 1: is that a lot of people understand that you have
[13:32] Speaker 1: a career. And I know that, and I always talking.
[13:35] Speaker 1: I love talking to people who have a career because
[13:37] Speaker 1: when you're young, you don't think about thirties, you don't
[13:40] Speaker 1: think about forties, you don't think about fifties. You just
[13:42] Speaker 1: think about that moment. Now you know. Right now, I'll
[13:46] Speaker 1: introduce you tied the family business and you different TV
[13:50] Speaker 1: shows you've been tied to over years. When you look back,
[13:54] Speaker 1: what do you smile the most about? We go all
[13:56] Speaker 1: to your career, Traye.
[13:59] Speaker 3: Know what, man, when I look back, it's a great question.
[14:01] Speaker 3: When I look back, and when I smile the most
[14:03] Speaker 3: about is that I stuck with it. Yeah, I didn't
[14:06] Speaker 3: allow any See what everybody thinks, it's all you know.
[14:11] Speaker 3: You go to Los Angeles or where are you going
[14:12] Speaker 3: to this industry and it's all they see, all the
[14:14] Speaker 3: glitz and the glamour. They know and you hear the stories.
[14:18] Speaker 3: Everybody's got a story, right, but nobody really understands until
[14:22] Speaker 3: they're really in it. And I think that's what happens.
[14:24] Speaker 3: Why when it's that fear when people come into this
[14:27] Speaker 3: type of industry, what they don't know. You know the
[14:32] Speaker 3: things that you hear, but what you don't know what
[14:35] Speaker 3: you're going to go through the journey, the ups and
[14:37] Speaker 3: the downs, and and there isn't a book that just
[14:42] Speaker 3: the truly there's books out there, but they will never
[14:44] Speaker 3: truly tell you this, truly.
[14:46] Speaker 2: Tell you.
[14:48] Speaker 3: How to what's you know, it's a prominent word, be
[14:52] Speaker 3: resilient through the journey and that no matter what, you
[14:56] Speaker 3: have to go down into like you have to. And
[14:59] Speaker 3: when I say you have to dig deep, set your
[15:03] Speaker 3: roots and be strong and know that it's gonna work out.
[15:08] Speaker 2: And you have to be consistent.
[15:09] Speaker 3: You can't just sit at the house and do nothing either, right,
[15:11] Speaker 3: you do have to put yourself out there and be
[15:15] Speaker 3: able to do this thing and wake up every morning
[15:19] Speaker 3: and feel good about yourself why you're doing it right.
[15:22] Speaker 3: And that's what I really feel good about is I
[15:24] Speaker 3: can wake up every morning man, today, yesterday, and tomorrow,
[15:28] Speaker 3: and I can say I feel good about myself about
[15:32] Speaker 3: this journey and how I did it and the way.
[15:36] Speaker 2: I just stuck through it.
[15:37] Speaker 3: I stuck around good people I've been blessed to be
[15:40] Speaker 3: around some really good people and a lot of people
[15:44] Speaker 3: who over time, when people start seeing you and seeing
[15:47] Speaker 3: you doing this thing and you're really serious about it,
[15:50] Speaker 3: it starts to catch like fire and people start to
[15:52] Speaker 3: trust you, and then people start to want to help you,
[15:55] Speaker 3: and people start trying to because like I said, I'm
[15:58] Speaker 3: helping everybody else. I'm trying to jump in and do
[16:00] Speaker 3: whatever I can't anybody else because I'm trying to learn.
[16:02] Speaker 3: While the process of learning, people are trying to end
[16:05] Speaker 3: up giving back to you. And so once again looking back,
[16:08] Speaker 3: just feeling good about that I put into work the
[16:12] Speaker 3: right way.
[16:12] Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying.
[16:13] Speaker 1: Stay with us. More Money Making Conversation master Class coming
[16:17] Speaker 1: up next. Welcome back to Money Making Conversation master Class
[16:25] Speaker 1: with me Rashaun McDonald. I want to I want to
[16:28] Speaker 1: move a current here because I want to. They don't
[16:30] Speaker 1: want to go back, because your story is so such
[16:33] Speaker 1: a blessing to share because it's very similar to some
[16:36] Speaker 1: of the courses I've applied to my life, you know,
[16:39] Speaker 1: and it's been consistency has been hard work. But now
[16:43] Speaker 1: the show you're currently doing that you are directing co
[16:46] Speaker 1: ex Extribusa. I'm very familiar. It is one of the
[16:49] Speaker 1: shows I watch a lot. Tell my audience about the
[16:52] Speaker 1: family business and who's starring in it.
[16:55] Speaker 3: Yes, so, man, they bugging me right next today Today's
[16:58] Speaker 3: the day is October to dy buzzing me right now.
[17:01] Speaker 3: That was just Ernie Hudson telling me about how proud
[17:03] Speaker 3: he was.
[17:04] Speaker 1: Man.
[17:04] Speaker 3: So speaking of talent, you know we have so actually
[17:13] Speaker 3: we have Ernie Hudson. Okay, So this is the Duncan family, right,
[17:17] Speaker 3: the Duncans. If you don't know about it, this is
[17:18] Speaker 3: about This is based on the New York Times best
[17:20] Speaker 3: selling book by Ernie Hutt. I mean by a Carl Weber.
[17:23] Speaker 3: Carl Weber's a you know, prolific writer. And this is
[17:26] Speaker 3: an ongoing book series to this day, still running. The
[17:29] Speaker 3: stars Ernie Hudson as Elsie Duncan. Valerie Pettiford, she's Chippy Duncan.
[17:35] Speaker 2: That's his wife.
[17:36] Speaker 3: Then you got everybody from Michael chih White, Darren Henson,
[17:41] Speaker 3: he's a you got the family, the kids, Darren Henson,
[17:45] Speaker 3: he's Orlando javc A Leslie who plays Paris Duncan. She
[17:49] Speaker 3: was also Batwoman. Y'all know her from Batwoman.
[17:51] Speaker 1: One w she came in with, she came in, she
[17:56] Speaker 1: start here, she.
[17:57] Speaker 3: Started with family business and then end up blowing up
[18:00] Speaker 3: and becoming Batwoman.
[18:01] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
[18:02] Speaker 3: You got a gentleman named Sean Ringold who's Tammy. Roman
[18:06] Speaker 3: Arrington of Brayley Evans is in it.
[18:10] Speaker 2: Man.
[18:10] Speaker 3: We got then Lit and Bernadette's stands. You know, we
[18:13] Speaker 3: all know her from back in the day. You know,
[18:16] Speaker 3: she's a FA favorite. So we got Ben. We got
[18:19] Speaker 3: some new people coming in. But I mean, we gotta
[18:21] Speaker 3: look at we gotta star stud the cast. Christian Keys
[18:24] Speaker 3: comes in and does some things. Ron Rico, Lee, Trisha Man, y'all.
[18:28] Speaker 3: I mean, look, man, Anthony, I can go down the
[18:31] Speaker 3: list with this thing. Flex Alexander comes in and does
[18:33] Speaker 3: a really great job. So it's look, Pat, we don't
[18:36] Speaker 3: even have Patrick Duffy man that right, Emilio Rivera. Then
[18:43] Speaker 3: we all got it's a very multi cultural, you know,
[18:47] Speaker 3: very you know it's it's about an afternoon.
[18:52] Speaker 1: It's a sexy series because you bought Christian Keys.
[18:55] Speaker 2: Christian comes in and he does his name. Come on,
[18:57] Speaker 2: you know, christ.
[19:01] Speaker 1: Man, I just like the series because you know, I'm
[19:05] Speaker 1: just stepping in as a fan too. Yes, because I've
[19:08] Speaker 1: done television a lot that I've been fortunate to do
[19:10] Speaker 1: blockbuster movies. But I love character development, and that's where
[19:14] Speaker 1: a lot of people miss is the character that the layers.
[19:19] Speaker 1: Because sometimes watching your series you have like three different
[19:22] Speaker 1: storylines running.
[19:25] Speaker 3: You got to keep the fire. You gotta find ways too, yes,
[19:30] Speaker 3: and tie them all together.
[19:32] Speaker 1: And that's really important for people to understand that storytelling
[19:35] Speaker 1: is the key to longevity. Now when you listening now,
[19:40] Speaker 1: because I want everybody to hear by what you're working
[19:42] Speaker 1: on so they can see us. But more important, I
[19:44] Speaker 1: want people to talk about your story. Because let's go
[19:47] Speaker 1: on back to North Texas. Because editing caught your attention.
[19:50] Speaker 1: You gave a big speech your dad. You can't have
[19:53] Speaker 1: to think okay, you got me, you got okay with La.
[19:59] Speaker 1: You met two other gentlemen that's created the tried.
[20:03] Speaker 2: My business partner. It's a lady.
[20:05] Speaker 3: Her name is Nikayah d Brown Jones, and she's my
[20:12] Speaker 3: she's my business partner.
[20:13] Speaker 2: We created it together.
[20:14] Speaker 3: But then there was a gentleman named Darren Grant. Now
[20:17] Speaker 3: Darren is on his own. He was a big time music,
[20:19] Speaker 3: big time music video director and he is the one
[20:21] Speaker 3: who though gave me that first gig, the opportunity of chance.
[20:25] Speaker 1: Now you went from an editor to an executive.
[20:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, editing and heights in college to a pa in
[20:33] Speaker 3: La to a own but you know what the executive,
[20:36] Speaker 3: I created my own lane. And that's what I really
[20:39] Speaker 3: want people to understand. You got to create. We created
[20:42] Speaker 3: a company. My business partner I, she's went to FAM
[20:45] Speaker 3: you she was at that you know, their their graduate program,
[20:49] Speaker 3: their business school. So she did understands the numbers and
[20:52] Speaker 3: all of that, and I knew all the creative and
[20:54] Speaker 3: the technical stuff. And we came together and made this
[20:56] Speaker 3: thing happen. But we created our own lane. And what
[20:59] Speaker 3: wet realizes if you go to get a pay out
[21:02] Speaker 3: here and doing this, the most powerful people create their
[21:06] Speaker 3: own companies. They create their own stories and they tell
[21:09] Speaker 3: something in a consistent way. And we were One of
[21:12] Speaker 3: our goals was destined to change the perception of the world.
[21:15] Speaker 3: That was the vision. But all of our stories we
[21:18] Speaker 3: always win. That was the key. It's like, what is
[21:22] Speaker 3: it going to be about our stories that we always
[21:24] Speaker 3: want to tie into is that no matter what happens
[21:26] Speaker 3: at the end of that story, We're gonna always win.
[21:29] Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting. I remember that open the
[21:32] Speaker 1: comedy club in Houston and back in ninety two, ninety
[21:36] Speaker 1: three and before my father passed away. You know, he
[21:41] Speaker 1: came into the comedy club and he really understood who
[21:44] Speaker 1: I was, you know, because because he didn't want me
[21:46] Speaker 1: to go to college. He thought, you know, I had
[21:48] Speaker 1: six sisters, two bro all the girls to go to college.
[21:50] Speaker 1: He thought I'd be just like him, a blue collar worker.
[21:54] Speaker 1: He was a truck driver that worked for him. Why
[21:56] Speaker 1: came to work for you?
[21:57] Speaker 2: Right?
[21:58] Speaker 1: And so and he really really he really saw what
[22:01] Speaker 1: his son could be. And he said, so you're successful.
[22:04] Speaker 1: I said, well, I said that I'm not where I
[22:07] Speaker 1: want to be, but I'm happy where I'm at. And
[22:10] Speaker 1: so with that being said, what project did? It really
[22:14] Speaker 1: dawned on your parents that you that you? Ah? Did
[22:18] Speaker 1: you did?
[22:19] Speaker 4: You?
[22:20] Speaker 2: I was on my way. I was on my way?
[22:23] Speaker 3: Who you know what they saw me go through the
[22:28] Speaker 3: You know, when we had first we were doing a
[22:29] Speaker 3: lot of independent films making it.
[22:32] Speaker 2: But it was really like.
[22:33] Speaker 3: That for our third or fourth film, let me tell
[22:37] Speaker 3: you the one I think really stood out for everybody
[22:39] Speaker 3: was a movie was It was the first movie we
[22:41] Speaker 3: did actually with Carl Weber, and it was called The
[22:44] Speaker 3: Man in Three B. Right, yeah, I directed that, and
[22:48] Speaker 3: that's our company, The Man in three B with Lebron
[22:51] Speaker 3: Rutgers and that movie. Because it went we got a
[22:56] Speaker 3: you know, a small theatrical release on that.
[23:00] Speaker 1: Because I did the that movie. I saw that movie.
[23:03] Speaker 1: Didn't know you were associated because you got a big
[23:05] Speaker 1: old your resume strong was. Uh we did it at
[23:09] Speaker 1: the Bronze Lynz Festival.
[23:11] Speaker 3: Bronze Lynz Festival, So let's speak on that. So I'm
[23:14] Speaker 3: now one of the man that's the beautiful thing you
[23:17] Speaker 3: just said that. Yes, it was the opening night film
[23:19] Speaker 3: at the Bronze Lynz Film Festival. And let me tell you,
[23:22] Speaker 3: I am now one of the board members of the
[23:25] Speaker 3: Lands Film Festival. Defintely that's that's a phenomenal film festival.
[23:30] Speaker 3: But that movie right there, hands down showed a lot
[23:35] Speaker 3: of people, Oh these guys are they're in it, you know,
[23:40] Speaker 3: and not in family, friends, everybody. I think it changed
[23:44] Speaker 3: the course of everything as far as how people looked
[23:46] Speaker 3: at us as a company.
[23:47] Speaker 1: Great people don't really. I talked to my staff a
[23:50] Speaker 1: lot because so many people want to be in Hollywood
[23:55] Speaker 1: from talking from the actors and actresses, and when you
[23:58] Speaker 1: start becoming successful, you take on a lot of power
[24:03] Speaker 1: and you have to be smart and allow that power
[24:06] Speaker 1: to consume You talk to us about that journey trade.
[24:10] Speaker 3: That's such a good point, you know. Once as you
[24:15] Speaker 3: keep elevating and you get into these positions, like you said,
[24:17] Speaker 3: where you can when you get into the hiring and.
[24:22] Speaker 2: Really it can open doors for a lot of people's lives.
[24:24] Speaker 1: Ye think it's to the next level.
[24:26] Speaker 3: You just have to make sure this is why I
[24:29] Speaker 3: go about what's what? What's your why in this business?
[24:34] Speaker 3: And what is it you're really trying to do and
[24:35] Speaker 3: what And to be able to wake up in the morning,
[24:37] Speaker 3: like you just say, you know and feel good about things,
[24:40] Speaker 3: because people are gonna be able to going to throw
[24:42] Speaker 3: a lot of things that you. People are gonna come
[24:44] Speaker 3: at you in a lot of different ways and suggest
[24:48] Speaker 3: a lot of things to seem to help you.
[24:51] Speaker 2: What can I do to make you know?
[24:55] Speaker 3: People are trying to do a lot of I guess
[24:57] Speaker 3: transactions right right, So so you got to be careful
[25:01] Speaker 3: about these things because in the end of the day,
[25:04] Speaker 3: people's intentions of where they are today and where they
[25:08] Speaker 3: are tomorrow and how they The hustle.
[25:10] Speaker 2: Is real out here, you know what I'm saying.
[25:11] Speaker 3: So where people may think that they're gonna get with
[25:15] Speaker 3: something may not be you know, like this is everybody
[25:19] Speaker 3: has a different journey. So let's just say you take
[25:22] Speaker 3: a transaction and you help someone out, they don't get
[25:25] Speaker 3: to where they want to get to.
[25:26] Speaker 2: They may come back to you and say you did
[25:29] Speaker 2: me dirty.
[25:29] Speaker 3: Right, And these are where you got to really understand
[25:34] Speaker 3: character with people and really go through the right processes
[25:38] Speaker 3: and vet the scenarios out really clearly when you're working
[25:42] Speaker 3: with people. Yes's why it's important to have a team,
[25:44] Speaker 3: have people that protect you through the journey because things
[25:49] Speaker 3: are coming at you and everybody and people who have
[25:54] Speaker 3: the right intentions to protect you. And then and you
[25:57] Speaker 3: got to ask yourself, are these people truly? If somebody
[26:01] Speaker 3: comes to you with a transaction that doesn't feel professional, right,
[26:06] Speaker 3: it's just no, it just is no, or you know what,
[26:10] Speaker 3: I don't feel good about that. But if you really
[26:13] Speaker 3: want to try this, here are the people that do this,
[26:16] Speaker 3: reach out to them and then this is the process
[26:18] Speaker 3: and that's it, you know what I mean, Like there's
[26:20] Speaker 3: ways to play that without you know, but it is
[26:23] Speaker 3: a difference. It's a dangerous game.
[26:25] Speaker 1: Now, it is. And that's why I wanted to bring
[26:26] Speaker 1: up bringing it into this conversation because so many young
[26:30] Speaker 1: people and even older people, they get out there and
[26:33] Speaker 1: they see Hollywood, they don't realize. That's why I used
[26:37] Speaker 1: the word career when I was when I've been talking
[26:39] Speaker 1: to Trade because he if you listen to this conversation,
[26:44] Speaker 1: it was always the long game with him. It was
[26:46] Speaker 1: never the short game of the hook up. Yeah, not
[26:50] Speaker 1: ever get in a situation where it's a hook up.
[26:53] Speaker 1: Allow people to introduce you into the business because of
[26:57] Speaker 1: your talent, not because of your look. If your look
[27:01] Speaker 1: gets you through the door, make sure your talent keeps
[27:03] Speaker 1: you in that door, because that where people can abuse
[27:08] Speaker 1: the relationship, abuse you, and then you on the outside
[27:12] Speaker 1: feeling taking advantage of That's what we're talking about. I know,
[27:17] Speaker 1: I know Trey, he was he was couching the terms
[27:21] Speaker 1: but and I respect that. But it's important that he
[27:25] Speaker 1: and I tell the people out there who are interested.
[27:28] Speaker 1: And I'm talking to Trey Hayley. He is the co
[27:31] Speaker 1: executive producer and director of Family Business Hit series on
[27:36] Speaker 1: BT Plus.
[27:37] Speaker 3: Actually and actually that watched this, it was the co
[27:40] Speaker 3: executive producer now is executive producer. And it's really now
[27:44] Speaker 3: all that drama coming to you now with all that stuff.
[27:47] Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying right right, Because as you
[27:49] Speaker 3: keep as it keeps coming up, they're like, wait a minute,
[27:51] Speaker 3: wait a minute, you own this company?
[27:53] Speaker 2: They say, Oh, but see this is what I tell
[27:56] Speaker 2: people right now.
[27:57] Speaker 1: I love this. I love I love this because I'm
[28:00] Speaker 1: really into the conversation with.
[28:03] Speaker 2: What I'm about to say with this.
[28:05] Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who go in this business
[28:06] Speaker 3: and they think they're gonna get the quick fix Yes,
[28:10] Speaker 3: but you're gonna get the quick fixed in, quick fix in,
[28:13] Speaker 3: and you're gonna get the quick fix out.
[28:15] Speaker 2: Yes, what I'm saying, that's the truth. Let me tell
[28:17] Speaker 2: you why.
[28:18] Speaker 3: Because when you see all these people with the long game,
[28:22] Speaker 3: because your your roots aren't settled in strong, anything is
[28:28] Speaker 3: gonna take you out, right, that's the short game. But
[28:33] Speaker 3: when you planted your roots strong and you've watered them
[28:36] Speaker 3: roots and it's dug deep, there's another level that's gonna
[28:40] Speaker 3: have to for you to get taken out. It's gonna
[28:43] Speaker 3: have to be something else. You know what I'm saying,
[28:44] Speaker 3: it's gonna be God itself come to me, take me
[28:47] Speaker 3: out this game. But but, but but people come in
[28:50] Speaker 3: and they think they're gonna make these moves through the looks,
[28:54] Speaker 3: they're gonna suggest things through sexuality, whatever thing about this.
[29:00] Speaker 3: It's a hundred thousand people. Two hundred it's so many
[29:04] Speaker 3: people in this game.
[29:06] Speaker 2: So let's go through phase A.
[29:08] Speaker 3: A guy over here or a lady over here suggests
[29:11] Speaker 3: and gets a small gig real quick, or doing something.
[29:16] Speaker 3: Maybe it's one hundred of thousand, other it's a five.
[29:20] Speaker 3: It's all kind of people submitting and trying to get
[29:22] Speaker 3: into this movie. For instance, you may try to co
[29:25] Speaker 3: outs there and do something that you don't feel good about.
[29:28] Speaker 2: Later on in your you're not gonna feel good.
[29:30] Speaker 3: About and may not even get the job, right the
[29:34] Speaker 3: guy and the girl who didn't do anything got the
[29:38] Speaker 3: job or the guy who didn't do So my point
[29:41] Speaker 3: is there's that's not even a chance on that either.
[29:45] Speaker 3: So people think they're gonna come in and do all
[29:47] Speaker 3: this stuff and oh I look good or I have
[29:49] Speaker 3: this and oh look at how I look, and all
[29:50] Speaker 3: this that does not get you in the game because
[29:53] Speaker 3: it's so many people, like you just said, super talented.
[29:56] Speaker 2: It's so many phases of people having to make.
[29:59] Speaker 3: A your decisions on who's gonna get parts and who's
[30:03] Speaker 3: gonna get this behind in front of the scenes, that
[30:08] Speaker 3: it is gonna be based on talent and your character
[30:10] Speaker 3: and people seeing your passion and and and and you
[30:14] Speaker 3: just just staying just just knowing stick.
[30:22] Speaker 2: Always do good. It always canna come back.
[30:24] Speaker 1: To you good and always about When he's talking about
[30:28] Speaker 1: I'm talking about trade and Trey, you say I should
[30:30] Speaker 1: change your title to executive producer. Yeah, yeah, an executive producer.
[30:35] Speaker 1: You know. He already told us. Ernie Hudson just calling
[30:38] Speaker 1: and say er Ernie busy too, because he's a Boston
[30:43] Speaker 1: Boston Blood, Boston Blood, Boston's Friday.
[30:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know about Blood. He's on another show.
[30:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, this is on that's on the CBS. I watched it.
[30:53] Speaker 1: I watch Fire Country then Sheriff Country then or Boston Blood. Yeah. Yeah.
[30:59] Speaker 1: And so the thing about it is it's about relationships, man,
[31:03] Speaker 1: And that's what he's talking about. What he's talking about
[31:06] Speaker 1: roots and not being able to take it out because
[31:09] Speaker 1: the reality is is that whether you're in business or entertainment.
[31:13] Speaker 1: It comes back to your relationships because when you go down,
[31:17] Speaker 1: because you're gonna fall, you're gonna have those slow times
[31:21] Speaker 1: and the relationship will see you through because that relationship
[31:25] Speaker 1: respects what you have accomplished or the individual that you
[31:28] Speaker 1: are and what you bring to the table. And I
[31:31] Speaker 1: always tell people that you get paid based on what
[31:34] Speaker 1: people value you.
[31:36] Speaker 2: There you go.
[31:37] Speaker 1: If they value you, they will pay you. If they
[31:40] Speaker 1: don't value they will use you.
[31:43] Speaker 3: And you also have to know when you're where you
[31:46] Speaker 3: are when this scenario you're working in.
[31:49] Speaker 2: Now, if you're a.
[31:50] Speaker 3: Rookie coming into a situation, you can't get Lebron James money,
[31:55] Speaker 3: you know.
[31:55] Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
[31:56] Speaker 2: And a lot of people in.
[31:57] Speaker 4: This game, they come in like they now, you make
[32:01] Speaker 4: them play good, right, but you haven't proven yourself to
[32:05] Speaker 4: get the level of sometimes where you can't and you
[32:09] Speaker 4: make no Look, it's good.
[32:10] Speaker 2: To know your value.
[32:12] Speaker 3: Then you have to allow everybody else has to see
[32:13] Speaker 3: that value too. And it's not upfront. It's the result
[32:17] Speaker 3: of what you do. Not like you coming in saying
[32:19] Speaker 3: let me tell you what I can do. I tell
[32:22] Speaker 3: people you say you're a director, then go direct something
[32:24] Speaker 3: you're a writer, go write something, but don't.
[32:26] Speaker 2: Say I'm a writer, but you ain't got a script, right,
[32:29] Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
[32:30] Speaker 3: But also and you got to ask yourself, like you know,
[32:33] Speaker 3: I always tell people when you're when you're involving yourself
[32:38] Speaker 3: in productions or any capacity, what is the value for you.
[32:41] Speaker 3: If it's only money, that's gonna be a fledgling situation,
[32:47] Speaker 3: it's not gonna ever be good. But if you say,
[32:50] Speaker 3: it's not just the money, but this is gonna help
[32:52] Speaker 3: me with this too, and it's gonna be it's gonna
[32:54] Speaker 3: be like a force multiplier where it's gonna take you
[32:58] Speaker 3: want to do things that a value triple time, right,
[33:02] Speaker 3: not just money, because money is gonna come and go.
[33:05] Speaker 1: Right, we know. Here's the thing. I'm thank you for
[33:09] Speaker 1: doing this interview because education as much as what I try,
[33:13] Speaker 1: it's what I've tried to do in this show. Now
[33:15] Speaker 1: on BT Plus, where the Family Business can be found.
[33:19] Speaker 1: The beauty of streaming is you can see all the seasons.
[33:22] Speaker 1: Yes you know, you click one, two, three, four, five,
[33:25] Speaker 1: six and show you all the episode. So if you're
[33:28] Speaker 1: just hearing about the family business right now, don't worry.
[33:32] Speaker 1: BT Plus sign up you go online, you can start
[33:36] Speaker 1: episode one because you really want to see the character development.
[33:39] Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, well, have you been on
[33:42] Speaker 1: this series from day one?
[33:43] Speaker 3: Yes, So my company tried us in studios, teamed up
[33:47] Speaker 3: with Carl Weber Urban Books team, and we made this
[33:50] Speaker 3: from the beginnings. Man, we had a relationship with BT,
[33:54] Speaker 3: really strong relationship with BT. And let me tell you
[33:56] Speaker 3: the power of this movie. Most people don't mean the
[33:58] Speaker 3: show once again vision. We shot this independently. First, i'd
[34:03] Speaker 3: heard about two movies are one in part two. We
[34:06] Speaker 3: casted it. This cast that you've seen is all up
[34:08] Speaker 3: in it from the beginning. But we said, no matter what,
[34:11] Speaker 3: we've always been shooting movies and selling and doing all
[34:13] Speaker 3: the plus with movies. We know we can sell it
[34:15] Speaker 3: as a movie. But we know even a cast new
[34:18] Speaker 3: and because of the ongoing book series, this has the
[34:21] Speaker 3: potential to be a great TV show. And so then
[34:24] Speaker 3: we went around and multiple people. Most people say, well
[34:27] Speaker 3: could you who else did you take it to? We
[34:29] Speaker 3: we had four about four or five other all together
[34:32] Speaker 3: people interested in our show, and BT is the one
[34:35] Speaker 3: who saw the vision and took it on. So we
[34:38] Speaker 3: always appreciate to them, and we also partnered with them.
[34:41] Speaker 3: So this is you know, we are truly an ownership
[34:47] Speaker 3: company with this Tried Destined my company with Nakaya and Carl,
[34:51] Speaker 3: we own the property and we are partners with BT
[34:54] Speaker 3: with this. So it's but but it was because we
[34:57] Speaker 3: filmed it. We put the money and we put what
[35:00] Speaker 3: that investment is.
[35:01] Speaker 2: Investment on yourself, on ourselves, and we bet on ourselves.
[35:04] Speaker 2: And I tell people that all the time.
[35:05] Speaker 3: People will say, y'all walking around and it's nothing wrong
[35:09] Speaker 3: with TV shows getting picked up with other networks and
[35:11] Speaker 3: then putting the money in. But when you bet on yourself,
[35:13] Speaker 3: you have more power to take it around and and
[35:16] Speaker 3: and and and put yourself in a winning position.
[35:19] Speaker 1: Trade Man, this has been an outstanding interview. Man, I
[35:23] Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking the time to come on the
[35:26] Speaker 1: show not only allow us to understand the work that
[35:29] Speaker 1: you're doing now, but there's a journey to everything. And closing,
[35:34] Speaker 1: what would you like to leave with my audience on
[35:35] Speaker 1: money making conversation masterclass.
[35:38] Speaker 3: With your audience, I would just like to leave this
[35:41] Speaker 3: Your perspective in life is going to be the key
[35:46] Speaker 3: along with your spiritual journey. But your perspective and how
[35:48] Speaker 3: you see things. If you see negative, you're going to
[35:52] Speaker 3: get the negative. But if you see the if a journey,
[35:54] Speaker 3: if you're in a front right now, your perspective is
[35:58] Speaker 3: the key because you're never gonna be there. But so
[36:01] Speaker 3: long if you stay positive and you say, I know
[36:05] Speaker 3: I'm here now, but.
[36:08] Speaker 2: I'm gonna see my way out of it. I know
[36:10] Speaker 2: I'm gonna win.
[36:11] Speaker 3: And if you have that winning mindset, you'll go, You'll
[36:14] Speaker 3: fly high. So just stay focused on what is not
[36:18] Speaker 3: what isn't.
[36:20] Speaker 1: He's the president and partner at tri Deathtin Studios. He's
[36:23] Speaker 1: also the company lead director with more than sixty TV
[36:27] Speaker 1: episodes and feature Lynch storytelling. His latest project is the
[36:30] Speaker 1: BT hit crime drama The Family Business, where he serves
[36:34] Speaker 1: as both director and executive producer. My brother, thank you
[36:39] Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
[36:42] Speaker 2: Thank you brother.
[36:42] Speaker 3: Hey, I'd love to any time come down to Houston. Whatever, man,
[36:46] Speaker 3: I'm all for it, brother, No.
[36:48] Speaker 1: You special man. I really appreciate you. This has been
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