# Financial Tips: Discussing how College Athletes are now being paid millions of dollars.

An episode of [Money Making Conversations Master Class](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1264705641), 17 Dec 2024, 25 min.

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[0:00] Speaker 1: Above and beyond their athletics scholarships. Coaching and mentoring is
[0:04] Speaker 1: in his DNA, and he is concurrently served as Rich
[0:09] Speaker 1: Advisor and head Men and Women Tennis coach at Tuskegee University.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Please work with the money making Conversations Masterclass, Gregory Green,
[0:18] Speaker 1: how you don Gregory Hey?
[0:20] Speaker 2: How you doing, Sir Donald? Pretty good?
[0:23] Speaker 1: My friend Tuskegee. How did you get How do you
[0:26] Speaker 1: wind up in Tuskege? And I saying that's a bad thing,
[0:28] Speaker 1: but there's always a journey. I mean you not only
[0:30] Speaker 1: have done other things coach outside of the world of tennis.
[0:35] Speaker 1: Give us a little of your background before we really
[0:36] Speaker 1: get into the interview.
[0:38] Speaker 2: H Well, I started, I'm from Cleveland, Ohio. I started
[0:42] Speaker 2: playing football in Texas at Sam Houston with Texas and
[0:47] Speaker 2: basically coach college football at different places Tuskegee, Alabama State,
[0:52] Speaker 2: Kentucky State, and also was coaching the Savannah State and
[0:57] Speaker 2: coached at tennis at both of those places too. And
[1:00] Speaker 2: now I'm back at Tuskegee coaching tennis and was the
[1:03] Speaker 2: director of academics at the University of Alabama and Birmingham.
[1:06] Speaker 1: Awesome. Awesome. Now you know we were off the offline.
[1:09] Speaker 1: We talked a little bit. I always talk about guests
[1:11] Speaker 1: prior to it, and I called him up and he
[1:14] Speaker 1: had a Houston number. So you've been in that Houston
[1:17] Speaker 1: community and that's where I was born and raised. Now
[1:19] Speaker 1: talk us about your experience in Houston.
[1:22] Speaker 2: Oh, Houston is a beautiful place. I call it four
[1:26] Speaker 2: line of stuff right in Houston. That's right, Houston's beautiful.
[1:29] Speaker 2: I was at Texas Southern and uh, that hospitality down
[1:33] Speaker 2: there was great. I also went to the school down there,
[1:35] Speaker 2: Sam Houston, which.
[1:37] Speaker 1: Is right down the road. That's Huntsville, Alabama. That's where
[1:39] Speaker 1: the prison at the prison down there.
[1:41] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sir, sir.
[1:44] Speaker 1: Uh, let's just talk about this n I L because
[1:47] Speaker 1: I wanted to let people understand your background before we
[1:50] Speaker 1: got into it. Because we mentioned in tennants and people
[1:52] Speaker 1: go n AL and tendants the all year about the
[1:54] Speaker 1: NIL associated with football and NL searching with basketball. But
[1:58] Speaker 1: it crosses all that athletic fields that are being made
[2:01] Speaker 1: available to sports. But we've always heard about the you know,
[2:06] Speaker 1: the black athlete you know being you know, being used,
[2:11] Speaker 1: you know, being kicked to the curve, you know, by
[2:13] Speaker 1: these institutions, and they're not benefiting not n AL has
[2:17] Speaker 1: popped up. Now, what difference is that making for the athlete? Now, Gregory, Well.
[2:24] Speaker 2: Let's giving them a great opportunity to market themselves and
[2:28] Speaker 2: make money. Uh. But but like anything else, you got
[2:31] Speaker 2: to have the talent first. It's not it's not just
[2:34] Speaker 2: gonna You're not just gonna get money because you're on
[2:36] Speaker 2: a team, unless unless, unless you get on some teams
[2:40] Speaker 2: like uh some power Fire programs. Everybody on a team
[2:43] Speaker 2: get a certain amount of money, uh through different programs
[2:46] Speaker 2: with different companies. And it's a lot more of you
[2:49] Speaker 2: selling yourself than the university selling you. And you got
[2:53] Speaker 2: to get out there and uh be marketable. You got
[2:56] Speaker 2: to get out there and had opportunity to uh put
[2:59] Speaker 2: your off on a on a national stage and and
[3:02] Speaker 2: just had a talent to go along with it.
[3:04] Speaker 1: You got to have a talent, right because you know,
[3:06] Speaker 1: I was reading the day about Shaduah Sanders, Uh Leon Sanders.
[3:10] Speaker 1: So he bought one of his offensive linement a two
[3:12] Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars.
[3:13] Speaker 2: Mayby call oh he can he can do that. He
[3:18] Speaker 2: getting like six to eight million dollars a year. He
[3:20] Speaker 2: can do that. Now he can buy you and I
[3:23] Speaker 2: one of those. And that's one of the great success
[3:28] Speaker 2: stories of this opportunity because it's been many years that
[3:32] Speaker 2: we put a lot of money in a lot of
[3:34] Speaker 2: these universities, right as athletes, and they didn't get anything. Well,
[3:38] Speaker 2: I'm gonna say he didn't get anything back because like
[3:41] Speaker 2: I always tell him, uh, don't, don't don't. You don't
[3:44] Speaker 2: be used used process and that's getting that degree, and
[3:47] Speaker 2: that's the most important thing. But nowadays they getting this
[3:49] Speaker 2: opportunity to get some changed in their pocket.
[3:52] Speaker 1: And that's great too, right because I know that, Uh,
[3:55] Speaker 1: because the college scholarship. Now, just educate me a little bit. Now,
[3:59] Speaker 1: when you you on an HBC level, then you said
[4:02] Speaker 1: the word power five and then I hear the word FB,
[4:05] Speaker 1: as I hear the word division one, division two, explain
[4:08] Speaker 1: to me where HBCUs are at. And then a school
[4:12] Speaker 1: like say Ohio State in that relationship.
[4:16] Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with the big money. Let's start with
[4:19] Speaker 2: Ohio State. Ohio State alumni and they got different companies.
[4:23] Speaker 2: That's a part of the alumni programs and so they
[4:26] Speaker 2: able to get more money. That's how a lot of
[4:28] Speaker 2: this money comes from. It comes from companies and corporations
[4:32] Speaker 2: that want to donate back to their old school, and
[4:34] Speaker 2: one way to do it is through this new NLI
[4:36] Speaker 2: way instead of like they did back in the day
[4:39] Speaker 2: when I was in school, they just give you an
[4:41] Speaker 2: envelope and you got a little money that way. Now
[4:43] Speaker 2: it's tax reductible getting a large amount of money. Right,
[4:47] Speaker 2: you're getting a large amount of You get a large
[4:49] Speaker 2: amount of money. Majority of that money from those Power
[4:52] Speaker 2: five teams like Ohio State. It's some companies that cover
[4:56] Speaker 2: the whole team, regardless what position they play. They just
[4:59] Speaker 2: give everybody, Okay, every buy this team's gonna get at
[5:01] Speaker 2: least three thousand, at least three thousand dollars. That's per year,
[5:05] Speaker 2: per semester, per month. Who knows how it goes the people.
[5:08] Speaker 2: And then there's that still special athletes that's getting that
[5:12] Speaker 2: special money from special companies and corporations where they're getting
[5:15] Speaker 2: in the millions. Like we're just talking about Sanders making
[5:19] Speaker 2: almost sick things you make, I think it's six or
[5:21] Speaker 2: eight million dollars. He's the highest paid in l I
[5:24] Speaker 2: got right now. Now, when it comes to Division one,
[5:28] Speaker 2: Division two HBCUs, there is a few schools that's that's
[5:31] Speaker 2: doing pretty good. They're players here is getting a couple
[5:34] Speaker 2: of thousand dollars here and there, and and that that
[5:37] Speaker 2: goes a long way some schools, even like you ain't
[5:40] Speaker 2: being other schools. You you can probably get close to
[5:42] Speaker 2: five five to six thousand dollars a semester along with
[5:46] Speaker 2: other things that's going on. So it puts some money
[5:49] Speaker 2: in the pocket. Uh, it is put some money in
[5:52] Speaker 2: your pocket. And it's always people think that it's the
[5:56] Speaker 2: deal that you make. It's not the deal that the
[5:58] Speaker 2: school always going to have for you. Right. Say for instance,
[6:02] Speaker 2: if I'm met let's say Tuskegee, right, and I got
[6:05] Speaker 2: alumni that works for Procter and Gamo, and he wants
[6:09] Speaker 2: to do a big thing. Hey, I want to who
[6:12] Speaker 2: who can we use to advertise our business along with
[6:18] Speaker 2: support in the pocket. So they may come to us
[6:20] Speaker 2: and say, okay, I said, hey, I got this guy.
[6:23] Speaker 2: It's the guy that we probably need to promote. And
[6:25] Speaker 2: that money can vary from It's not in the millions,
[6:28] Speaker 2: but you can get some good money to take care
[6:31] Speaker 2: of travel back home. It's better than what we used
[6:34] Speaker 2: to get.
[6:34] Speaker 1: Well, you know it's always say gregor you know it's
[6:36] Speaker 1: you know apples are does it really is?
[6:38] Speaker 2: You know?
[6:39] Speaker 1: You know, like like we started with Power five, this
[6:42] Speaker 1: is money making Conversations master class. We're about to talk
[6:44] Speaker 1: about some money.
[6:45] Speaker 2: Now.
[6:45] Speaker 1: The Ohio State they're collective, that's what they call these
[6:48] Speaker 1: little collectives. Nil. They put thegether a collective of twenty
[6:53] Speaker 1: million dollars for their football team of this year. And
[6:57] Speaker 1: they went out there and they bought everybody bought. They
[7:00] Speaker 1: bought Klib from Alabama. They bought the running back from Mississippi.
[7:05] Speaker 1: They bought the quarterback Will Howard from k State. They
[7:08] Speaker 1: bought players all up and guess what they still lost
[7:11] Speaker 1: to Michigan. Okay, and so and so people, and they're collective.
[7:15] Speaker 1: They mad and Ryan Daye see they when they give
[7:19] Speaker 1: out the money, they expect the results. Then you have
[7:23] Speaker 1: quarterbacks in high school who never played a college down,
[7:26] Speaker 1: like this young man named Underwood. He was supposed to
[7:29] Speaker 1: go to LSU, supposed to go to LSU. Now last minute,
[7:33] Speaker 1: he's now going to Michigan. Where it is Michigan is
[7:37] Speaker 1: going to pay him eight million dollars.
[7:40] Speaker 2: Absolutely, eight to ten million dollars.
[7:42] Speaker 1: I've been corrected through the glass. Eight to ten million dollars.
[7:45] Speaker 1: He's not even throwing a college pass. That is the
[7:49] Speaker 1: difference that is happening right in front of our eyes.
[7:53] Speaker 1: And so if you're not offering these kids money, and
[7:57] Speaker 1: some of the coaches are frustrated by that now, but
[8:00] Speaker 1: guess what, so what you used to just because am
[8:04] Speaker 1: I like you can correctly if I'm wrong in this gregory,
[8:07] Speaker 1: It's like there's no such thing as a full scholarship.
[8:10] Speaker 1: A kid scholarship can be taken every year away from
[8:13] Speaker 1: them athletic wise.
[8:15] Speaker 2: Correct, absolutely absolutely, and the coach can leave at any time.
[8:21] Speaker 2: So I gotta I gotta fun a college football. So
[8:25] Speaker 2: he's playing college ball. So I understand that whole process
[8:29] Speaker 2: inside out, and I played myself. It's a lot of
[8:33] Speaker 2: catch twenty two's everything. The first part you mentioned about,
[8:36] Speaker 2: let's let's it's an investment for that company. Right, that
[8:39] Speaker 2: company is Ohio State. Let's let's start that that's company.
[8:43] Speaker 2: That's the investment now. And just like you do when
[8:46] Speaker 2: you was talking about stocks and everything else, sometimes the
[8:48] Speaker 2: investment don't come through for you, right that that investment
[8:51] Speaker 2: don't go down. Now, what do you do? Is the
[8:54] Speaker 2: contract already out there that that kid guaranteed this money
[8:57] Speaker 2: or is it just there guarantee for this year or
[9:00] Speaker 2: how does that work? That's the thing that's also that
[9:03] Speaker 2: people got to be thinking. The money may start a
[9:05] Speaker 2: certain way, but it may not end up that way.
[9:07] Speaker 1: Right right now. And that happens a lot. Yeah, that
[9:13] Speaker 1: happens a lot out there because the whole, the whole
[9:16] Speaker 1: money situation is getting so convoluted because you have the collective.
[9:20] Speaker 1: It is the collective working for the school. Uh, you know,
[9:24] Speaker 1: in all these different situations. But it's a lot of
[9:26] Speaker 1: money out there that's changing kids mind. I think they
[9:30] Speaker 1: said the going rate because everybody gets intoto a transfer port.
[9:34] Speaker 1: I just want to educate people about how when you
[9:38] Speaker 1: graduate from these colleges, you graduate from these schools. How
[9:42] Speaker 1: now these athletes they're really professionals who are being paid now,
[9:46] Speaker 1: which is a great thing, by the way, it's a
[9:48] Speaker 1: great thing because you used to be they will They
[9:51] Speaker 1: couldn't even sell T shirts if they if they sold
[9:55] Speaker 1: they autograph, they got suspended, They lost their academic collegship, scholarships,
[10:02] Speaker 1: lost their scholarship just for signing off autographs. This is
[10:05] Speaker 1: just this less than ten years ago, y'all. And so
[10:08] Speaker 1: Now that lets you know how much money that the
[10:11] Speaker 1: school was getting on top of these students. If a
[10:15] Speaker 1: high school quarterback, come on that Gregory high school quarterback
[10:19] Speaker 1: is being paid ten million dollars to go to the
[10:24] Speaker 1: University of Michigan. And like you said, everybody on the
[10:27] Speaker 1: university's Uni Michigan team is getting a check yep. And
[10:33] Speaker 1: some of them are getting like they have like set rates,
[10:35] Speaker 1: like every offensive lineman will get a minimum of fifty
[10:39] Speaker 1: thousand dollars.
[10:41] Speaker 2: Yep. This is just fact, absolutely, just fact, absolutely absolute, absolutely.
[10:46] Speaker 1: And so now your son when he's playing college football, Now,
[10:51] Speaker 1: how does he look at the whole nil from his perspective.
[10:55] Speaker 1: I'm not saying, I'm not trying to get into your business,
[10:57] Speaker 1: but he's in the game. How the athletes is it's
[11:00] Speaker 1: a different business for him that he's walking into versus
[11:03] Speaker 1: would you experience as a college football player.
[11:07] Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely Fosness to McDonald, it's it's a it's a
[11:11] Speaker 2: different because he you know, he's young. He's looking at
[11:14] Speaker 2: how many Tennis was thinking about, So he's looking at
[11:16] Speaker 2: who's giving them the most money, not not not not
[11:19] Speaker 2: the scheme of what can help him develop him and
[11:22] Speaker 2: make him a better player, not the academic but the
[11:25] Speaker 2: academy surrounding that he's going to be in. He's looking
[11:28] Speaker 2: at what can he get right now? Who's gonna give
[11:30] Speaker 2: me the most money right now? And it changed the game.
[11:33] Speaker 2: And you got coaches that's really in the crackmire because
[11:38] Speaker 2: this kid's making more than me. Hey. And then you've
[11:43] Speaker 2: got like the Toroado, you got something much more than
[11:47] Speaker 2: the presidents at the university. So how do you control
[11:52] Speaker 2: a young kid that frontal lobe had not even been
[11:54] Speaker 2: developed yet to keep the main thing the main thing? So,
[11:59] Speaker 2: but the money is there, The money is there. Is
[12:01] Speaker 2: just it's gonna be the skill set. And uh, but
[12:04] Speaker 2: a lot of kids don't look at they look at
[12:05] Speaker 2: they look right at that money and what they can
[12:08] Speaker 2: do for them.
[12:09] Speaker 1: Well, in some ways, I'm gonna tell you something, Gregory,
[12:11] Speaker 1: and thank you for calling and being on my show,
[12:13] Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation master Class. I'm talking to Gregor Green.
[12:16] Speaker 1: He's the head coach at tennis coach at Tuskegee University,
[12:21] Speaker 1: and his background has been he played college football, has
[12:24] Speaker 1: coached college football, and is well versed into collegiate athletics.
[12:30] Speaker 1: And we're talking about nil and how NIL is now
[12:33] Speaker 1: uh changed the game in a good way. And and
[12:36] Speaker 1: and every school that's participating has to have some type
[12:40] Speaker 1: of NIL collective in order to entice players to come
[12:45] Speaker 1: to the school. It's no longer now like you said,
[12:48] Speaker 1: your son, he's more he's not worried about the scheme.
[12:50] Speaker 1: He's worried about, Hey, how what I'm gonna get? What
[12:53] Speaker 1: I'm gonna get? And that's what Nick Saban, one of
[12:55] Speaker 1: the greatest college football coaches of all times, say he
[12:58] Speaker 1: couldn't take it no more. He couldn't take it them all,
[13:01] Speaker 1: you know, he over there trying to. She just came in.
[13:03] Speaker 1: The parents over there worried about what they sung gonna get,
[13:06] Speaker 1: you know, as far as a salary and to trust
[13:10] Speaker 1: is laws. But I don't know if I'm kind of
[13:12] Speaker 1: called in the middle of that, Greg And you can
[13:14] Speaker 1: help me out here, sir.
[13:16] Speaker 2: You know.
[13:18] Speaker 1: You've had athletes that you could take this scholarship away.
[13:21] Speaker 1: So if you if you recruited them, that doesn't mean
[13:24] Speaker 1: that that scholarship could be there for four years. They
[13:27] Speaker 1: can recruit over recruit a class and they tell you,
[13:30] Speaker 1: invite you an office, say hey, you might want to
[13:32] Speaker 1: transfer because we don't have room for you anymore. That
[13:35] Speaker 1: can easily happen.
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[14:05] Speaker 2: That's an easily help yep. Absolutely, it happens every day.
[14:08] Speaker 1: And now you have the transfer portal, and the transfer
[14:11] Speaker 1: portal allows these students and a lot of them make
[14:13] Speaker 1: mistakes because some of them should not be transferring. And
[14:16] Speaker 1: let's talk about they explain to everybody what the transfer
[14:19] Speaker 1: a portal is, Gregory.
[14:21] Speaker 2: The transfer a portal, it's a it's it's a good
[14:24] Speaker 2: in the back, Uh. The good thing about it. If
[14:26] Speaker 2: a kid feels that he's or she is in a
[14:28] Speaker 2: position that she's not getting growth, she's not happy what
[14:32] Speaker 2: she is, she can put her name in the portal.
[14:34] Speaker 2: She goes to the compliance officer at the school. They
[14:36] Speaker 2: automatically get in the portal. Now every coach in the
[14:39] Speaker 2: country just looks at the portal on some coaches look
[14:42] Speaker 2: at her, look at the portal on daily basis and
[14:44] Speaker 2: see who's who's new in there, and they see you
[14:46] Speaker 2: in there. Now you're able to make contacts and that
[14:50] Speaker 2: student can transfer. No sitting out a whole year, you
[14:53] Speaker 2: can transfer immediately. So I mean, as soon as that
[14:55] Speaker 2: semester is over, you'll be able to transfer into that
[14:58] Speaker 2: that next university. Which is a thing. Uh, the challenging
[15:02] Speaker 2: things is, all right, what are we teaching our kids?
[15:06] Speaker 2: Are we teaching when things get a little tough that
[15:09] Speaker 2: we're just gonna quit and go somewhere else? And who's
[15:11] Speaker 2: to say that where you're going it's gonna be better.
[15:13] Speaker 2: So it's a lot of And then when you get
[15:16] Speaker 2: out there in the portal, if you're leaving my school
[15:18] Speaker 2: to get out of the portal any other school, I'm
[15:20] Speaker 2: gonna have to go recruit somebody else. So I'm gonna
[15:23] Speaker 2: take the I'm ready to remove the scholarship for next
[15:26] Speaker 2: semester to give to somebody else. What to say that
[15:29] Speaker 2: you don't get nobody to pull on your strings and
[15:31] Speaker 2: you don't get the opportunity to go to another school.
[15:33] Speaker 2: Now you don't put yourself out there and you ain't
[15:35] Speaker 2: got nowhere to go. So it's a lot of different
[15:38] Speaker 2: connections to that.
[15:39] Speaker 1: Well, you know, the interesting thing about it is that
[15:41] Speaker 1: and I appreciate you, and we're gonna talk about your
[15:45] Speaker 1: coaching that Tuski gets ahead tennis coach. But I just
[15:48] Speaker 1: think that when I get somebody and I have to say,
[15:50] Speaker 1: you're you know you're you're an expert in this area
[15:54] Speaker 1: and can talk about it not only from a coaching standpoint,
[15:57] Speaker 1: but you have a son right in the middle of it.
[16:00] Speaker 1: And it's and I now I'm telling everybody, it's a
[16:02] Speaker 1: great thing. It's a great thing to be able to
[16:05] Speaker 1: now be able to transfer if you're uncomfortable, if you're
[16:08] Speaker 1: not getting playing time, like you said, you know.
[16:10] Speaker 2: Absolutely used to be like you.
[16:12] Speaker 1: You compete now if you if you you second third string,
[16:16] Speaker 1: you're gonna lead. But what does that teach you when
[16:19] Speaker 1: you leave? Does that? Does that teach you that when
[16:22] Speaker 1: they go and get tough, exit stage right, or you
[16:25] Speaker 1: try to make yourself improve, go to the coach. What
[16:28] Speaker 1: do I have to do to be able to compete? Compete?
[16:31] Speaker 1: And that's what life is about. Competing. You do a
[16:34] Speaker 1: lot of mentorship. Gregory talking to us about that and
[16:37] Speaker 1: the young people and mentoring the desire to compete instead
[16:41] Speaker 1: of exiting for like they say, greener pastors.
[16:45] Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, and and it's challenging, you know. The kids
[16:48] Speaker 2: got to understand that that that life is, that's life
[16:52] Speaker 2: not is not fair, It's going to be opposite. It's
[16:55] Speaker 2: only I tell them, it's the only two things we
[16:57] Speaker 2: can control. That's all right, And it's across the board.
[17:01] Speaker 2: It's only two things in life you can really control.
[17:04] Speaker 2: That's your attitude and your effort. So regardless of what
[17:07] Speaker 2: happened to you, what is your attitude? What did your
[17:10] Speaker 2: attitude looks like when somebody tells you, okay, you're on
[17:13] Speaker 2: the second string, you're not the starting quarterback? Right now?
[17:16] Speaker 2: Does that say? Am I going do? I gotta know?
[17:18] Speaker 2: Is my attitude gonna be right? Did I'm a push
[17:20] Speaker 2: myself and challenge it? Or if I'm not gonna get
[17:23] Speaker 2: the effort that I deserve or I should put out.
[17:26] Speaker 2: So I got to challenge the kid to say, uh,
[17:29] Speaker 2: And I tell my son, I tell all of my
[17:31] Speaker 2: players and the people that I counseled, I say, you
[17:33] Speaker 2: got to find out what you want out of life. First,
[17:36] Speaker 2: you gotta understand what motivates you, what makes you feel
[17:40] Speaker 2: like I got to go get it. Whatever that thing is,
[17:43] Speaker 2: you need to have that fastered everywhere throughout your life.
[17:47] Speaker 2: When you wake up in the morning, it should be
[17:48] Speaker 2: right on your mirror. I want to be this, this
[17:50] Speaker 2: is where I'm going today and seeing it? Why you
[17:52] Speaker 2: brushing your teeth every day? Just keep pushing yourself and
[17:55] Speaker 2: understand it's got to come from intrinsic. It's got to
[17:58] Speaker 2: come from you. I can motivate you, extra to you
[18:00] Speaker 2: a little bit, but it's got to come from you. You
[18:02] Speaker 2: gotta have that want to. And sometime when you got
[18:05] Speaker 2: this opportunity and you you was to all, you was
[18:09] Speaker 2: all everything in high school and somebody says, you're not
[18:12] Speaker 2: that guy yet. Are you going to quit or are
[18:15] Speaker 2: you going to not challenge yourself or compete for the spot?
[18:19] Speaker 2: Or are you going to say, hey, I'm just gonna
[18:21] Speaker 2: throw my name in the porter and go somewhere else
[18:23] Speaker 2: and then yes and hope that I made the right decisions.
[18:27] Speaker 2: So I just try to tell the may whatever you
[18:29] Speaker 2: want to do, you can do it. You just got
[18:31] Speaker 2: to realize it takes work to get it done. It
[18:34] Speaker 2: takes great attitude and great effort to be greatness.
[18:37] Speaker 1: And they always in the word there are always consequences, consequences,
[18:43] Speaker 1: consequences and trust and sometimes you can be leaving an
[18:47] Speaker 1: area of trust going to a business. You can easily
[18:51] Speaker 1: change the word trust and family to a business, and
[18:54] Speaker 1: business will kick you to the curb even faster because
[18:57] Speaker 1: that's where you came over, because business decision. Now let's
[19:01] Speaker 1: talk about tennis, sir. You know, my daughter was fortunately
[19:04] Speaker 1: now very fortunate. My daughter played tennis as she injured
[19:07] Speaker 1: her heard her knee, and she was on the WTA circuit,
[19:10] Speaker 1: you know, and of course she was inspired by Venus
[19:13] Speaker 1: and Serena Williams. And they're no longer Venus and sul
[19:16] Speaker 1: Reena Williams out there. Tell us the state before we
[19:19] Speaker 1: get into Tuskee. Tell us your state, and you'll feel
[19:21] Speaker 1: about African Americans who are now playing professional tennis, both
[19:25] Speaker 1: on the male side and the female side.
[19:29] Speaker 2: Oh man, we got some great young talent. We got
[19:31] Speaker 2: some talent coming in tennis on then in the world,
[19:34] Speaker 2: on the world stage. That it may not be Venus
[19:37] Speaker 2: and Serena, but we got some good ones out here
[19:39] Speaker 2: on both sides of men and women. That's out here
[19:42] Speaker 2: doing some great things. Some of them are coming from
[19:43] Speaker 2: different lifestyle. We got the kid from Georgia Tech, he
[19:48] Speaker 2: went through college. Chris still made it to the pro circuit. Yeah,
[19:52] Speaker 2: it's him right for him to do it that way.
[19:55] Speaker 2: That made my life a lot better because you don't
[19:58] Speaker 2: got to go You don't have to go straight to
[19:59] Speaker 2: the pro at fifteen and sixteen and seventeen. You can
[20:02] Speaker 2: go to college, get a degree and still make it
[20:05] Speaker 2: to be one of the top ten uh uh tennis
[20:07] Speaker 2: players in the world. So that was great to see
[20:10] Speaker 2: that going on. And then there's other ones that you know,
[20:13] Speaker 2: you gotta pay a lot of money to get it done.
[20:14] Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta go through the training and everything.
[20:16] Speaker 2: But I think, uh, we got we got some. We
[20:19] Speaker 2: got some. We got some talented young tennis players coming up.
[20:22] Speaker 2: That's gonna be awesome and it's gonna represent uh, not
[20:25] Speaker 2: only our race out of our country. I think we're
[20:28] Speaker 2: gonna do well. We're doing well.
[20:29] Speaker 1: So tell us about your your tennis program up there.
[20:32] Speaker 2: Coach oh Man, I got the best athletes in the world.
[20:38] Speaker 2: Talk to me through world man Man, I got the best. Hey, Hey,
[20:42] Speaker 2: this is tu Skeiker University. The rip Ron Academic of
[20:46] Speaker 2: the South. You know, we we we got some of
[20:48] Speaker 2: the best. I got some I've been blessed with some
[20:51] Speaker 2: of the best talent. And you know what, we not
[20:54] Speaker 2: only winning championships, you know, I had my my women's
[20:56] Speaker 2: and my man's team had the highest GPA in the
[20:59] Speaker 2: confer friends, highest GPA in the region. And and winning
[21:04] Speaker 2: tennis championships, doing internships, becoming engineers, nursers, just doing great
[21:10] Speaker 2: things man, and uh, I've been blessed. I mean, I
[21:13] Speaker 2: got a great I got a great product to sell
[21:16] Speaker 2: and uh, and it's easy for me to bring in
[21:18] Speaker 2: talented players. And I got a great athletic director and
[21:21] Speaker 2: our new president. We got we got we really got
[21:24] Speaker 2: a lot of good things going on to Skeigee right
[21:26] Speaker 2: now and toward the future for tennis. Just came off
[21:30] Speaker 2: of championship with our women's team. Uh, and I guarantee
[21:34] Speaker 2: we're gonna win it again. And our men's team and
[21:37] Speaker 2: our men's team is right there ready to win it
[21:39] Speaker 2: this year coming up. Also, So I'm in I'm gonna
[21:42] Speaker 2: blessed great state. And and it's just like I said,
[21:45] Speaker 2: it's it's great to know that they're student athletes. They
[21:48] Speaker 2: are graduating man having having internships. There's sophomore years and
[21:55] Speaker 2: and choosing what job they want to take by their
[21:57] Speaker 2: junior year. It's awesome. And winning championship. It's a great thing.
[22:00] Speaker 1: That's awesome. Now, how do you recruit your talent or
[22:03] Speaker 1: does talent contact you? How does that recruiting process work
[22:06] Speaker 1: for you? Coach Green down at uh Tueskiga University, It.
[22:11] Speaker 2: Goes both ways. Most of it. I gotta hunt, I
[22:15] Speaker 2: gotta get out there. I got to The budget allowed
[22:18] Speaker 2: me to get out there and see talent. Uh. But
[22:20] Speaker 2: a lot of people uh and also do well with
[22:24] Speaker 2: people were sending me in video, send me a video
[22:26] Speaker 2: tape to see you playing, and uh, let's look at it.
[22:28] Speaker 2: And then I invite you to the campus and see
[22:31] Speaker 2: you live, introduce you to my players and see how
[22:34] Speaker 2: that thing WI will work out. And if it works out,
[22:36] Speaker 2: we we we're doing well. So it's both ways.
[22:40] Speaker 1: Wow, you know I I The great thing about this
[22:43] Speaker 1: whole world that you're in is that you're dealing with
[22:46] Speaker 1: a youth. Your your your influencer, that's what I call it.
[22:49] Speaker 1: You your influencer people leaders and things like that. And
[22:54] Speaker 1: when I talked to you, and I got an opportunity.
[22:56] Speaker 2: To interview you.
[22:57] Speaker 1: You're you at the You're at the hub right there, sir,
[23:00] Speaker 1: of our future. And if you give to give any
[23:03] Speaker 1: advice to parents who are listening, that not just attending Tuskegee,
[23:08] Speaker 1: but just it's kids in general. What you see and
[23:11] Speaker 1: what you enjoy about working with students.
[23:14] Speaker 2: Uh, I love it. This is this is my retirement job.
[23:19] Speaker 2: I think parents need to know they need to let
[23:22] Speaker 2: the kid make the decision. Let them see different opportunities,
[23:27] Speaker 2: different places they can go, but let them, let them
[23:29] Speaker 2: get a feel of the environment that they're gonna be
[23:31] Speaker 2: in for next four years, and let them make that decision.
[23:34] Speaker 2: Because the worst thing you want to do is you
[23:36] Speaker 2: make the decision for them because when it don't work,
[23:38] Speaker 2: guess who fault is, right, But when it does, but
[23:41] Speaker 2: when it don't, when it does work or what it
[23:43] Speaker 2: don't work, they can always say, hey, I made this decision.
[23:46] Speaker 2: I'm willing to work it out. So that give them,
[23:49] Speaker 2: give that student athlete that ownership and let them make
[23:52] Speaker 2: those decisions and just you know, just just throw the
[23:55] Speaker 2: odds out at them, give them the pluses and the
[23:57] Speaker 2: minus and let them do the math.
[23:59] Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Coach Green Uh annual student fall
[24:04] Speaker 1: and spring. I got to talk to you, brother, You're
[24:06] Speaker 1: my motivator and I want to thank you for coming
[24:07] Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation Masterclass, brother, because you've taught me
[24:10] Speaker 1: a lot and I appreciate you coming on my show.
[24:14] Speaker 2: Thank you very much for you guys allowed us to
[24:16] Speaker 2: be here. I right you.
[24:18] Speaker 1: We talked soon as you know. As we close out
[24:20] Speaker 1: the show, I want to just thank everybody who comes
[24:22] Speaker 1: on my show.
[24:23] Speaker 3: Uh.
[24:24] Speaker 1: This has been another episode of Money Making Conversation Masterclass
[24:27] Speaker 1: hosted by me Rashan McDonald. Thank you to all our
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